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Good use of 3d in anime

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Good examples of 3d in anime
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZi0neoZJfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKPVPoQKmM
I kinda hate the insane amount of bloom that is used in every scene but it's understandable since it's a Mahō shōjo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PudD1UrvU
Perfect use of 2d effects in 3d.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M7bOvN7Q7w
old 3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STxyXnLwPCI
new 3d
The difference is gigantic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-PudD1UrvU
Khara
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I don't follow Precure but it seems 95% of the whole Toei budget goes to their ED
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>>161406518
Happiness charge has the best one by far though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ccr6L8Zhu8
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>>161406844
It's more :
>97% Precure
>2% Dragon ball
>0,000003% One Piece
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>>161406875
It's the only one where the girls look like girls instead of animated sticks.I wonder what's the fucking problem whith japanese designer and girl with just a tiny bit of meat on them
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcyZc3bhyM
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>>161407022
Honesty, in the other ones they look like supermodels, all tall and thin and stuff. I think the designs in hacha just lend themselves to 3d a little better, but they also did a really good job with the animation. krkr's EDs have come close, but still not as good as those of HaCha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqhwPiISajI
You all need to learn what a good 3d anime look like
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>>161407049
Are you being sarcastic? It's fucking impressive for a '83 anime
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CG or not, what I cannot really like about those ED idol dance sequences is that the girls always dance in perfect unison.
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>>161407022
I think the stick-thin character designs appeal to Japanese girls and women. I've seen/read a ton of shoujo, josei, and yuri series that do that.
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>>161407086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s0j_kvGIBA
>I think the designs in hacha just lend themselves to 3d a little better
Everything is better than HeartCatch Precure in 3d. It's expecialy jarring when they dance close to the other precure
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>>161406875
Okay, that one's really looking good.
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>>161407314
It's the best animated one for sure. The main problem with 3d has always been the dead eyes effect and here it's completely avoided
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDtbQXMK4gw
I like this one. Also Etotama made good use of CGI.
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>All that bloom
>Every character is literaly a lightbulb
>Or look like it's made of cheap plastic
Cute as fuck tho'
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If you haven't watch Etotama, don't open the webm, it might spoil you something if you plan to watch it in the future.
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>>161407478
They are magical girls of course the radiate light you omega pleb
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>>161407478
>Complaining about the bloom
> on a Mahō shōjo serie
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This one's also quite nice. Helps that it had a slightly evolving credit where more and more CGI-myumons started running in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl3aXXOk9b4

Especially liked the final version where president Eggman jumps around with the choco-squirrel's guitar.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSZ5H79kMXI
Looks decent
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Gonna be interesting to see when Toei switches to just 100% CGI Anime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rf2kx3fwGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EAzyVB7Caw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm9pqiaxnbI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9N9LXT2syM
Not an anime but you get my drift
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>>161406668
They need to stop making videogames and make anime fulltime, the best part of CC2's games are always the animations and cutscenes anyways
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>>161406518
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfsTeExwbQ
CUTE! The 2 tall girls look like they are just waiting to molest the other one once the song is finished
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>>161406836
This is cyberconnect 2, not Khara.

CC2's actually a video game developer, but they are infamous for their animations and cutscenes.
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>>161407797
>hire cyberconnect2 to make an anime
>Every episode cost like a movie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMqpdxdKH0g
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>>161407482
I just want to go ahead and thank you for your concern. I'll go ahead and watch it right away just because you were nice enough to respect the spoiler code-of-conduct.
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>>161407902
How much did Asura's Wrath cost? It was pretty much just an interactive anime
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>>161407992
I'm 100% it was a yakuza money laundering plan.There are no other explenations
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I like's me some Snack World.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXfkdNqx9pk
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>>161407997
It's a good anime and a mediocre videogame. No idea about the budget
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>>161408157
Are you sure it's japanese? It looks like a french cartoon dub
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>>161406518
>>161406610
They are all rotoscoped so it's kinda cheating to compare them to normal animation
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>>161408371
It's called motion capture.not rotoscoping and the facial animation are still handmade
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>>161408298
It's totally Japanese. Especially in how unashamed it is in promoting the RPG video game elements.
This is the power of Level 5 money.
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>>161406518
The girl with green eyes is beyond creepy.
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How was Sidonia? I kinda liked the manga
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>>161408774
Apparently, the BD version was a lot better than the original TV broadcast version.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb-5mu5Y_u8
Here's some horrible 3d fighting
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>>161406518
It's all a matter of the original 2d design.Some character are designed to be always looked in a very specific way and look horribly deformed in 3d
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>>161409037
https://sketchfab.com/models/c62e4d9ec59240a79d26a3cfdda36781
NAh
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>>161409099
I won https://sketchfab.com/models/9120703a4aee4c2cb0313a9ca3e1e1a3
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>>161409099
Holy shit that site
https://sketchfab.com/models/6234f9020abd4ac79ebcdf6e09feff38

https://sketchfab.com/models/82367f6a22644f6f88b462077611559e

https://sketchfab.com/models/5dcebcfaedbd4e7b8a27bd1ae55f1ac3
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The animations for FE Awakening and Fates come to mind.
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>>161410347
post them!
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>>161406875
The mo-cap is excellent but aren't there more than a few hand-drawn (or at least hybrid) parts in there?
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>>161407385
>>161407482
Etotama's action was absolutely insane. I'm not sure I've seen better in cg.
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>>161408441
>the facial animation are still handmade
Ah, that explains a lot, then.
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>>161406518
>good cgi in anime
>no one posted MJP
Explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hEjVKlU_o8
Also appmon has pretty good cgi and cc2 is fucking great.
They made Naruto 100× more enjoyable.
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>>161411239

it sort of took Orange a little bit to properly get the hang of shit but once they did, goddamn.
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>>161411413
Yeah they are also doing K&M this season and it looks real good.
They are probably the best in the industry when it comes to CGI or atleast when it comes to cgi mechs.
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>>161411010
>the fight from the first episode
>Nya-tan vs Chu-tan
>Mo-tan vs Chu-tan
>that final battle

That show was on another level
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It's been 15 years and still nothing's topped Yukikaze.
Are you even trying as hard as you used to, Japan?
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This is what anime needs.
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/12350
first part
http://youtu.be/Zb23-qAOjeg

And some Kado scenes.

Only Toei can do it in the entire anime or gaming industry, coz they keep pushing and keep throwing money at it. Arc System CG is not preferable for these kind of projects.
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>>161406518
what no one posted this

https://youtu.be/nkzzmXsn-d8

Shame.
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>>161407115
Kek
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>>161407022
SJW.
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>>161413641
>https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/12350
I enjoy the effort but i realy get a MICHEAL BAY EXPLOSIONS from the clip you posted
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>>161410944
Nah it's full 3d. It's simply very well made
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>>161406518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xksPVZptPGM
Character would look fine in an anime
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>>161406844
prety much. the actual shows are often fairly simple as far as backgrounds or animation goes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwdp796i5Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW52Berp0aM
The power of weeb games
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>>161411629
Orange does good work. I'm kind of interested in seeing what their completely in-house series will be like next season. First time they're making something completely on their own instead of being an add-on CG studio for another company's show.
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>>161418720
Does it have a brutal release schedule like Dragon ball super ?
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>>161411029 see >>161418738
That's what you get when you dont't pay facial animators enough: Chep lifeless plastic looking dolls
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>>161418756
50 episodes and two movies per year, every year.
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>>161411029
>>161408441
that doesn't mean they have to pencil every frame. it's more like hand-tweaking the 3D animation frame by frame.
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>>161418926
Well at least it's way better than some nightmare inducing facial MoCap
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Can someone explain how they managed to achieve a 2d look? I mean the face has no shadow, the hand is fully cell shaded and other part of the body are randomly with or without shades
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>>161419095
Forgot the image
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>>161407210
Sometimes they copy-paste the motion, sometimes they don't.

https://a.doko.moe/buvzbb.webm
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>>161407210
It can be digitaly tweaked.
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>>161419117
Soooooooooooo.......
Why the skirts?
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>>161419095
>>161419103
You can configure individual surfaces whether they should participate in global shading or not.
Similarly they can be configured so that shading only kicks in when the light angles exceed some thresholds, that avoids the shadow creeping over the surface when they turn slightly.

https://youtu.be/yhGjCzxJV3E?t=963

>>161419104
forgot my image there
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>>161406518

Aikatsu Stars has pretty good CGI, especially in the facial expressions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHS4Z7VcGhw&t=1m17s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L0DHI_Y-SU&t=15s

>>161410347
>>161410714

Not 161410347, but here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DIv8Azy_Mw
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>>161419103
>Dresses make little to none shadow
>Random hand leave a perfect shadow on the other girl hair
>Area under the skirt has a shadow
>gigantic poofy hair have always the same light

It's a mistery
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>>161419103
Things have changed quite a bit. Look at the polygons on the finger in pic related
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HpZPTLza8
Good facial animation avoid the effect of having the characters look like real person wearing giant cardboard anime faces like here
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>>161408687
She's not human, so that's only appropriate.
No wait, that was mahou precure.
Well, this one is not much different, she is french.
Speaking of creepy greens.
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>>161419296
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The humans in ID-0 were meh, but the robots played to the strengths of CG and managed to be fairly emotive for something without faces.
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>>161414758
so many dead girls from head trauma and g-forces alone.
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>>161406518
>40 pound of hair
>Pencil neck
>Fight monster half their days
How often do they get their head snapped in half?
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It started not so well, but the way they were able to blend classic animation and 3D especially in the second film was fantastic (fucked up the link, this one shows better the way they evolved)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZJTg0CBs7E
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Post horrible 3d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDCF2a-Yfi4
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>>161419619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py03PttjmR0
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>>161413641
>Kado
it showed some things that I can appreciate on a technical level, but the characters were still stiff and uncanny most of the time

>pop in q
>call it a dance movie
>there's two dances in the whole movie
>the OP is chopped into pieces
goddamnit toei
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>>161419619
I don't understand. Why did they replace textures with pen stokes? Is it because it would have taken too much time to render?
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>>161419724
An attempt to imitate the manga style.
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>>161419724
Have you read the manga? Pen stroke are part of the original style. Unfortunately they look horrible here like everithing else
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>>161419296
Nope, still not human. Also french.
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>>161419450
It's balanced by other kind of weight
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>>161419753
>>161419768
I know the manga, but they could have put textures too.
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>>161419883
>anime CG
>textures
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>>161419883
Nono you don't get it they didn't put it with the computer they used chinese children whith a ruler and a pen to cut cost
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>>161406518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Ib86qUodw
Also the protagonist is cute as a button
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>>161419450
Magical girls come with a direct physics bypass.
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>>161420035
Animation is decent but i hate when they try to replicate the choppiness of cheap 2d animation.
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>>161420075
That was mostly 2D. Vividred only used 3D models for distance shots, the weapons and military assets.
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While there is progress 2D still manages to be better.
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>>161420075
I hate when they do it wrong, as in, by cutting the framerate, rather than elongating key frames and shortening the transitions.
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>>161406789
I prefer the older one. It looks far more "anime" than the weirdness that is the new one.
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>>161420445
the best compromise is in >>161406875.It's anime-like and yet it looks refined
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>>161420445
I don't know why anon picked those examples. The princess ED is an abomination, aesthetically speaking. They went back to flatter shading and less articulated mouth animation in the succeeding EDs.
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>>161408907
And to think, this shit was animated by the same studio as >>161411239.
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>>161419179
Probably so they know where they can't put their hands so their hands don't clip the skirts.
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>>161408687
I think it's the eyebrows.
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>>161419702
Kado have a lower budget. But they tried something new in some scenes, the car scene, street scene, and kissing scene.
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>>161420035
It's usually best not to think about it too hard.
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>>161406518
If someone posts any Shaft work you're a moron.
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>>161420861
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10 years later and no one has beaten Macross Frontier.
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>>161420558
>Team is so dedicated to 2d it managed to put a fishmouth on a 3D MODEL
>Bad
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>>161421277
I can framestep through the gopri ED and find dozens of terrible frames. There are far fewer issues with maho or kira
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>>161408687
let's see

1)She has no pupils and her eyes have a weird two colored iris
2)Holy shit she has green pupils
3)AYY LMAO
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forgot image
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>>161421591
Yes, but does it look good in motion? That's the whole point of animation.
Every scene with Parfait in the 2nd kira ED is unsettling.
I'll grant that both of the Maho EDs look great all the way through.
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>>161406915
They got a BUDGET for One piece?! I call bs considering they reuse a lot of animation
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>>161406875
That's honestly very good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKPVPoQKmM

this one is even better though
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>>161421715
it's not the animator fault she's an alien
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>>161421715
>Yes, but does it look good in motion?
No.

Sure, it's all sparkly and shiny and smooth 24fps animated and the choreography is fine.
But the end product still looks all wrong.
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>>161421958
>that single hair
>why
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>>161421958
Opinions differ then. Personally, I think it looks great.
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>>161421958
It does look good in motion, however that character's face is just ugly
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>>161406518
https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/18068
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>>161422035
My theory is that toei uses precure EDs as a sort of testbed or training ground for their CG animators. I guess someone wanted to try something with hair that was not is not a blob of jelly or a ribbons of paper.

They applied it again in kado and it worked there.
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>>161422453
The days of Toei fully diving into CG is inching closer and closer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SYDT6Dj7M
The new style is weird as fuck
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>>161423158

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQABF50qjtA
Pure Plastic
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>>161423158
I think it looks good actually, though I never liked Toriyama's character design
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The monochrome EDs were exactly how I imagine moving dolls or PVC figures would look like.
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>>161423484
>monochrome ED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoveIhHjlYU
Uncanny Canyon
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>>161423650
As I said, when you have some dolls and plastic butts you get somewhat used to that appearance.
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>>161406518
>maxresdefault
you need to acquire better screenshots
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Fireball getting a 3rd season
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>>161422713
>EfP
>Harlock
>Kado
>2/3rds of the gopri movie
we're close
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>>161425231
good 2d> good 3d> bad 2d> bad 3d
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>>161425775
I would say it depends on the subject matter too. Scenery will generally benefit from being handdrawn with a few exceptions. Mecha and spaceships on the other hand are especially well-suited to 3D and can in principle benefit from it because you can pull higher complexity without making your animators jump from the roof in protest.

Interior designs are a mixed back. Handdrawn ones look gorgeous compared to 3D ones, but then you often end up with a single perspective, using some 3D at least for object placement and then drawing over it can give you multiple consistent perspectives.

I think it is best when used as just another tool in the toolbox. Pick the best one for the job instead of using either exclusively.
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>>161425879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vwKj0o7WMU
i was being veeeeerry generic of course
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNc7lsZO5Rs

One of Precure's CG director's take on Reina.
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>>161426036
Sure, that looks neat. But it doesn't move, for good reason. I think CG could make it move at a reasonable price.
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>>161406875
They look way worse in 2d for some reason
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>>161416923
it's from the same country that gave us Chun-Li I dontthink that's the case
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>>161406518
Why is it so hard to find creditless versions of these EDs?
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>>161426227
I think that's just the result of a lowres drawing being upscaled.

>>161426158
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>>161426450
you have to look for the japanese one.The other are almost always cropped
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>>161426470
Well that's impressive. It could fool anyone into thinking it was a 2d drawing
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>>161418901
Poor Filipinos
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Cure Whip is the cutest cure ever
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>>161426577
>Always believed korean and chinese were the cheapest option
>Now I truly see
Toei Animation Philippines Inc. is the bone of all the 100 episode per year series
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>>161426496
still expected a batch of them on nyaa or something
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>>161426450
The BD releases of the individual seasons and movies have the NCEDs.

Toei also released a BD with just the TV EDs up to Doki. https://nyaa.si/view/538023
The older endings are 1080i on that release though. I think someone already went through the work of deinterlacing them and released a batch torrent together with the movie EDs.

>>161426496
Don't use yewtube. Their video quality sucks balls on even the best uploads.
The particle effects utterly kill their encoders.
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>>161426882
>https://nyaa.si/view/538023
>Precure Ending Movie Collection
>16.5 GiB
>Seeders:0
cool. how? fuck.
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>>161426997
I just found the cleaned batch I was talking about, try this one and have patience. https://nyaa.si/view/792236
It lacks a few of the newer shows and movies though, you'll have to find separate torrents for those.
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>>161419348
True true.
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>>161427111
thanks. and maybe the next batch will be out by the time I finish this one.
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The dreamstars making of is also interesting. Alas, the movie itself used too many filters.
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>>161428239
waterproof poofy hair are the best
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>>161419432
Anime girl don't follow the rules of physics. That's a known fact
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>>161421591
Please do the one you posted is hilarious
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Does this count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zd5CbuozhY
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>>161429151
some do and die like flies for it.
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>>161406518
[C] made okay use of it
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>>161429402
aren't they supposed to be rocks? they look like plastic.
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>unironically shilling a trash-tier mahou shoujo
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>>161429817
The ED are cute. Post cute thing
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>>161429857
Not disputing that.
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>>161429817
We're talking about CG here and precure happens to be the gold standard in that area.
You wouldn't want the CG dance from yuki yuna or something like that.
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>>161425231
There's also Saint Seiya Netflix, Saint Seiya LOS, Dream Stars and other Precure shorts.

>>161429817
Precure is aimed at three to five year old little girls, still, it's better than your modern edgy wannabe mahou shoujo otaku bait, and it's the only remaining real mahou shoujo left in the anime industry, still watched by adults, celebrities and well-known artists in Japan, surpassing Dragon Ball as the most referenced title in anime industry. Calling a toddler anime "trash" is just too cruel, only casuals can do it.
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>>161430047
>happens to be the gold standard in that area
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>>161431776
Have you seen the most recent ED? Do you have any better examples?
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>>161429817
>trash-tier
>while he posted meme anime by DEAN

Lmaoing @ yourlife
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>>161431676
>Precure is aimed at three to five year old little girls
close, but not quite
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>>161431999
>Lmao
>>>/facebook/
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>>161431776
failed bait
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>>161432113
>that /pol/ reaction image
>unironically like Redditsuba
Fuck off
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>>161406518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtbFU95kigM

What went wrong\?
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>>161432295
I mean it's better than https://youtu.be/YF8XfLDSk2U?t=1m59s
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>>161432343
Glitter Hoes
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>>161432343
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>>161432166
>Redditsuba
The redditor here is (you)
>>
precurefags are veterans, don't mess with them
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>>161432468
Fuck off crossboarder faggot
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>>161406518
So, why do they bother making good CG for this and not 95% of other anime?
Specially since Toei is always fucking cheap.
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>>161432651
Precure privilige
>>
For all the effort put into the CG animation in these I still prefer stuff like gdgd Fairies, Tesabu and Kemono Friends. I think it is probably the fact that they aren't even trying that makes it look acceptable.
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>>161406518
POLYGON PICTURES
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>>161432558
>people must browse only one board ever
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>>161433107
Fuck off
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>>161432651
Initially it was just EDs and stock footage. Use in action scenes and for movies was only added later.

>Specially since Toei is always fucking cheap.
Precure doesn't require much animation. 90% slice of life with plain watercolor backgrounds, 7% stock footage, 3% genuine action.

>>161432837
that must be your brain on indie game and fanfiction mode, i.e. lowering standards

>>161433078
Their CG looks like shit. The shading creeps all over the surfaces. Sidonia had that problem and Blame still had that problem. There has been no improvement in that area.
They don't even animate hair.
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>>161433107
>>161432558
>>161432468
>>161432166
>>161432113
Go get a room, redditors.
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>>161433198
>Their CG looks like shit. The shading creeps all over the surfaces. Sidonia had that problem and Blame still had that problem. There has been no improvement in that area.
>They don't even animate hair.
True but it's still looks better than the most
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>>161433198
>that must be your brain on indie game and fanfiction mode, i.e. lowering standards

I don't know I think it is something about it being so obviously cheap that helps it to capture the feeling of 2D anime animation.
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>>161433367
Fuck off
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>>161432047
The same happened with k-on
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>>161433309
It's not like there is a large pool of studios that competes on full-CG productions.
Both toei and sanzigen do better than polygon.
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>>161433198
>Precure doesn't require much animation. 90% slice of life with plain watercolor backgrounds, 7% stock footage, 3% genuine action.
This is a bit of a overstatement, probably true for a few seasons like Y5GoGo, that thing was stock footage encarnate.
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>>161421958
I love it
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>>161433627
Fuck off
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>>161433198
>>161433358
To some extent I think the type of show makes the cheap CG work too. gdgd Fairies and Tesabu are comedies that often even use the CG to make them more funny. Then I saw this short
https://twitter.com/irodori7/status/897411972429357057
and thought I would quite happily watch a Kino no Tabi/Mushishi iyashikei type anime in that setting and didn't think the animation hindered it at all.

>fanfiction mode
There is probably something to be said for this too. The team behind the animation on most of those shows is literally taken from nico MMD animators that the studio scouted.
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>>161422080
Well now she has found a better hair dresser
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>>161433674
Another thing I would say about these coming across as more 2D anime feeling is that they tend to keep to the flat shots just like 2D anime does. 3D anime often seems to feel the need to overuse their new camera tricks they have because it is 3D and that gives a significantly different viewing experience to 2D anime.
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>>161433788
Yeah, going overboard with camera motion is a big issue.
hollywood had a similar problem with the 3D craze. They did way too much with it until directors learned to tone it down and not being "showy" with that new feature.
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>>161432047
This is also incorrect, saw some three year olds while taking some pics on a kig show and in theaters, also senior citizen Hideaki Anno watch Precure after Kamen Rider, Berserk and blech authors still watch it annually, other mangakas and VN authors at their 40s still watching, Nana Mizuki and other seiyuu at their 40s till following it, and some idols, gravure and JAV idols, comedians, wrestlers, athletes at their 40s. Also on comiket, balding and white hair senior citezens lining up on precure lines.
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>>161406518

MY DICK
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>>161433888
Are you being dumb? The fact that you are aware of some people who enjoy something in your personal experience who are outside a target demographic doesn't change the target demographic.
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>>161433888
>balding and white hair senior citezens
grandpas
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>>161433977
>Are you being dumb?
In a thread like this?
Why, always. You new?
>>
>>161434006
There isn't really anything wrong with this thread. It seems to be of a decent quality and have some interesting discussion.
>>
>>161420861
why does it look like everyone's high?
>>
>>161406518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOt44bTE2cg
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>>161406518
Well that looks better than Love Live!
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>>161420855
Surprisingly no one posted
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>>161433977
Precure target audience are kids, and they won't or can't survey grandpas and those fujos. Precure is for all ages. What's your problem?
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>>161434980
My problem is you are conflating a target audience with the reality of those who consume the media. They are completely separate things. Who actually watches something has nothing to do with who the company making it is trying to appeal to.
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>>161435082
This.
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>>161435082
They can't put grandpas on the survey.
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>>161434299
sasuga
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ33WBtOavQ
Now THAT is a perfect blend of 3d and 2d.Too bad it's one of the few examples
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>>161406518
I hope the success of Kemono Friends leads to a golden age in 3D animation in Japan.
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>>161436179
But Kemono Friends CG was absolutely terrible.
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>>161436091
>french
Well they have always been good at experimenting new types of animation( Es what they did with wakfu)
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>>161436091
Nah, this is :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oorajmbSJUM
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>>161436274
ok it looks like a video japanese put on their pachinko machine
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>>161406518
I swear there must be some kinda of idol school of dance because i have seen all of their dance moves in idolmaster and Vita videogame
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>>161406518
High quality westboo 3d animation
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>>161436233
Still a bigger financial success than any other 3D anime.
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>>161437813
Yeah but that doesn't means it will lead to any golden age of 3D animation, if anything it encourage using low quality CG.
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>>161437852
The way I see it, KF's success shows to the rest of the industry that 3D animation is a viable form of animation that Japanese audiences can be positively receptive toward if done right.

Then again, 3D animation didn't see much of a rise after GuP despite its usage of it so most likely rather than poor 3D animation becoming popular, kemonomimi will have a resurgence.
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>>161437852
I don't think its success could be imitated even by the people that did it the first time around to be honest anyway. Big studios like Sanzigen or Polygon Pictures couldn't make a show like it if they tried. Their whole workflow is completely different. The real effect it might have as Seiji Mizushima said is to make production committees and creators realise that having all the high quality animation you want isn't going to sell anime unless there is a story that engages people that it is being used to tell. People are willing to forgive almost anything in terms of animation if the story speaks to them and that is what Kemono Friends demonstrates more so then anything. Just look at how people still enjoy classic TV shows of the past today when the animation quality is fairly abysmal often times. It is the same kind of thing that happened with Kemono Friends, initially people have a negative reaction to the animation quality but if they get past that and give it a chance they can fall in love with what is good about it and get over the animation and even come to like it for what it is.

>>161437960
Things like Knights of Sidonia, Expelled from Paradise and Arpeggio of Blue Steel did a lot for proving full 3D productions could be successful.
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>>161437282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AnchjAa_g&list=PL1PEOZxjniRk4AbZrIhnJGpB5xXLmHxHQ&index=9
A lot of the moves are reused
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>>161438172
>unless there is a story that engages people that it is being used to tell
Sure, but that doesn't affects the quality of CG at all.

>initially people have a negative reaction to the animation quality but if they get past that and give it a chance they can fall in love with what is good
Yes, that's if they get pass the initial negative reaction, and that depends mostly of luck. There is a lot of anime just as good as Kemono Friends that never made it big simply because an audience big enough was never built around it.
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>>161438440
The funny thing there is without the poor quality CG Kemono Friends like would have just been one of those many forgotten anime in my opinion.
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>>161419672
ngl it gave me a boner
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>>161438509
Probably. It gave it that underdog or dark horse of the season appeal.
>>
RWBY
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMB3jwIWDtI&index=15&list=PL1PEOZxjniRk4AbZrIhnJGpB5xXLmHxHQ
DOUBLE RAINBOW HANDS
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>>161438581
The curiosity about the poor animation attracted a core group of initial watchers for the "what the fuck even is this factor" who kept watching and realised it had something to it then spread its popularity outwards to the mainstream from futaba and 2ch onto twitter. If you look at the reactions on 2ch to the first episode it is very mixed to negative with people making comments about the poor CG and saying things like "is this a college students graduating project or something" and "looks like an amateur production". This meme became quite popular on Japanese twitter in Japanese around the time the show was getting popular.

So I don't think it would work again if other creators and companies tried to cynically exploit the success of the poor CG in Kemono Friends because it won't have that same "what the fuck is this?" impact on people. If companies do try they will probably fail and quickly realise it won't work again. The only people that can probably keep doing this kind of animation with success is the people behind Kemono Friends (Tatsuki/irodori) and people they used to work with like Ishidate from gdgd Fairies and Tesabu.
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