The great debate

>>161395148
Nasu states that it would be a draw.

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>>161395737
Nasu is a hack. Best boy would rip S W O R D S up before he had a chance to do anything.

>>161395148
Shiki doesn't have a chuuni sense of justice.

Shiki cant kill servants while Shirou can solo em

>>161397582
what about satsujinki

>>161395148
I think shirou is more interesting in his contrast with stabguy than as an actual character

>>161398237
>his contrast with stabguy
Explain

>>161395148
After all the saber faces, is there going to be a collection of Shiro faces as well?

>>161395737
What the fuck does draw even mean?
They kill each other at the same time?

>>161397582
Under very specific instances that basically have them weakened either physically or mentally. Hell, he had an abundance of trouble with an out of shape Kotomine. Let's not ignore context now.

>>161398303
Just stuff like how shiki lives in a western mansion while shirou a japanese one, shiki's bullshit cheat skill is to destroy things while shirous is to recreate or enhance things, shiki responds to almost dying as a child by trying to live each moment to the fullest without worrying while shirous response is to worry constantly about helping others.

I'm a sucker for this specific kind of ying/yang stuff

>>161397582
roa is a being that's immortal by constantly going back to akasha and reincarnating, the same place where servants come from, and shiki can kill him.

shiki can 100% kill servants, the question is if he can fight them or not, but since a half dead shiki with no practice can still jump off walls and do other crazy shit because he has incest assassin genes he could probably do about as well as shrou if not better

>>161395148
I believe Nasu said that Shiki would win except when Shirou goes all out, because they would then both die of overexertion

>>161398237
>>161398721
Also Shirou could be described as a sociopath, while Shiki a psychopath

>>161398809
Roa was killed in five minutes by Dantes when he was alive, let's not use him as a basis for anything

>>161398964
I'm not talking about killing roa in the powerlevel sense, I'm talking about permanantly destroying a vauge spitual akatshic being that can reincarnate into appropriate vessels so he can't come back, which is exactly what shiki does in 4 out of 5 routes.

>>161395148
If you're going to powelevel wank you need to do shikiller vs prisma shirou, not a pair of teenagers stumbling around till someone wins with their trump card

>>161398964
DAA don't exist in FGO, the two Roas are hardly comparable.

>>161399062
More importantly, he's able to comprehend Arc, who by all rights in the Tsukihime universe should be a much higher class of phantasm than a heroic spirit.

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>>161398809
>>161398707
Shiki can kill servants but he cant fight em according to word of god. Shirou on other hand blows them the fuck out in HF

>>161398320
Nope, they are Saberfaces too (based on male Arthur, the prototype).

>>161399786
DAA don't exist in worlds of Fate period except Strange Fake because Narita fucked up badly.

>>161395148
>Autistic swords man
>OC donut steel character from carnival phantasm

>>161399863
>Shirou on other hand blows them the fuck out in HF
HF shirou is basically a servant himself and still barely wins. If we're going to start talking about stacking conditions shiki can fight servants because he can just get arcueid or ciel to keep them busy while he stabs them in the ass

>>161400022
Using Arc or Ciel in a fight invalidates he can fight them.

>>161399978
I doubt you can pin that on Narita when the workings of FSF was started years ago. If Nasu had already decided on the whole DAA-Fate divide back then, it's pretty clear he didn't bother to tell Narita about it.

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>>161400022
HF Shirou is still a Shirou, If Id be cruel against Shiki I would bring up Archer. And no, he cant fight servants according to the word of the author

>>161399978
>DAA don't exist in worlds of Fate period
This was the moment type moon was dead to me desu. It was one thing to just neglect the non servant parts of the setting but to throw them into a ghetto entirely was just bullshit

>>161400094
Fate/Labyrinth was like 1-2 years ago or something when that retcon happened in there. Nasu probably never gave Narita the memo.

>>161399978
SF only had a DA, no DAAs have appeared or been mentioned.

>>161398940
I just love people who don't know the meanings of words.

>>161400331
FSF started as an April Fools joke back in 2008 and the original version was published the year after. I suspect Nasu decided on the development more recently.

>>161400432
Zeltrich and Alcatraz both appeared

>>161395148
Has anything been done with either of these loser in the last five years?

>>161400550
Shiki is in embargo hell because of Nasu, Shirou is becoming a pseudo servant in FGO next month or eventually

>>161400579
Why don't they just take the shiki from TALK and make him a psuedo-servant?

>>161395148
Shiro may win against Tohno Shiki but not Nanaya Shiki.

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Alright, but what about HER vs Shirou

>>161402483
tohno and nanaya have the same abilities outside of melty blood

>>161402711
One has a bit more willingness to murder.

>>161402632
They won't fight.