>Toho expected 4 billion yen in the box office >mediocre

>What went wrong for SHAFT?
They're tried to push another Kimi no Wa.
Just like how after K-ON, everyone tried their hand at a moe anime (and a lot of them sucked.)

They remade a classic Shunji Iwai film

>>161375143
>rushed production disaster
This is so fucking disappointing.

the movie had quite a few budget scenes. shitty cgi, and an ost that was a mix of kimi no na wa and koe no katachi.

People just has shit taste. The sales doesn't matter. It will win overseas awards.

>>161375798
>It will win overseas awards.
Sure, a crunchyroll one.

>>161375143
will we get bds in december?

They could've done something new but they used the same old tired character design, visual direction and the usual SHAFT gimmicks. The soundtrack sucked balls too.

>>161375913
did it feel like takeuchi at all?

>SHAFT
How the fuck did they get funding in the first place? Shouldn't they have a black mark on their record from all they have fucked up in the past?

>>161375953
Friendly reminder that there's maybe a 20% chance that that guy actually saw it and isn't just bullshitting you.

SHAFT fell for the Kimi no na wa meme. They should've just kept on making their pretentious shit as least those sell.

>>161376059
They're full retards if they seriously thought they could make something with as much mainstream appeal as kimi no na wa.

>>161375143
>SHAFT

shaft is what went wrong. they're devoid of talent and creativity. anyone handing them a significant budget will get shit back in return. toho should have expected this.

>>161375143
I'll still watch it, I like Shaft's animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tKVN2mAKRI

Based on this music video, the scenes are either really beautiful or mediocre TV anime quality. Really weird

>>161376164
>they're devoid of talent and creativity
Sounds like kyoani

What is this movie?

>>161375143
>SHAFT couldn't un-SHAFT themselves for a fucking feature film

Its the Negima movie all over again

>>161375143
Why exactly are people comparing this with Kimi no na Wa? After watching the original film, the plot isn't similar at all, and the characters and setting look nothing alike.

>>161376324
Sounds like insecurity.

why do distributors keep taking shaft seriously?

I'm so fucking sick of seeing Akio Watanabe's art style on everything Shaft does now that isn't 3gatsu.

>>161376620
I'm not

>>161376478
Because it's a romance with kids, which obviously Kimi no Na wa invented. People have been doing this for a while, it's just the new shitposting wave (as should have been clear from the studio wars nonsense also filling this thread). Ignore it.

>>161375547
>budget scenes
You mean SHAFT "artistic" scenes? Business as usual then.

>>161376620
This. It's starting to get stale now after years of Monogatarishit and that other thing.

>>161376317
What the fuck is this shit? Even for TV anime this looks like crap, with a couple of cuts that look like slightly-above-average TV anime. Can Shaft really not even draw a fucking flower pattern on clothes for a goddamn feature film? Not only are all the backgrounds hideous, the animation is laughable and the CG is complete garbage. The song is OK but seriously, the swimming animation is worse than some TV anime (you know the one I'm talking about), even the fireworks (in a movie called Fireworks) look worse than some I've seen on TV anime.

The only cut in there that could make me feel like I'm watching a film is that cgi shards cut at 2:20. Shaft is a complete joke.

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Don't worry, Kimi no Suizou wo Tabetai will be a hit.

>>161375798
most hilarious thing I heard all year. Just how clueless can you be?

>>161377101
That's gonna flop even harder.

>>161377033
Sorry, wrong thread.

kimi no's success is all due to Makoto Shinkai. That's not to say the movie wasn't deserving of praise just that it was a bit overhyped due to his popularity. The clones will start rolling into hoping to cash in and this will be the result for the next few years. The anime industry will continue on until the next big hit or fad.

>>161375143
Fuck me and i was legit excited to watch this shit, the music video was amazing.

>>161375143
What are you talking about? How can you judge the movie based on what the internet says?

We haven't even gotten a camrip yet.

>>161376620
I want a non-butchered Zaregoto adaptation with Take's art style instead of Akio Watanabe's.

>>161376478
I just a couple retards samefagging, pay no attention to them.

>>161377419
due to ghibli animators*

I have a feeling this will be a underrated movie even with the uneven animation.

Literally because Shinkai's name wasn't attached so all the braindead nips aren't going to blindly go see it and call it the greatest piece of cinema of all time.

>>161377419
>kimi no's success is all due to Makoto Shinkai
Of course, but I think the wide appeal it has plays a part too. Both protagonists felt more like normal people rather than otaku self-inserts and I think that helps a lot to reach an audience that generally wouldn't watch anime. Gibli movies had that sort of appeal too.

>>161376324
That's true too, but at least Kyoani is king when it comes to animation.

>>161377579
That's a stupid argument if you consider how his past films did. He was never very big.

>>161376620
Personally, I just think he's inappropriate for this sort of film. He's an otaku artist, through and through, why bring him onto a mainstream film? I know it was apparently the producer's decision, but I can't understand what he was thinking.

>>161377419
>kimi no's success is all due to Makoto Shinkai.
Is that why it was 1000 times more successful than all of his previous films combined? Shinkai was never a terribly popular director.

>>161377612
so they have talent?

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>>161377612
Sure

>>161377588
>Both protagonists felt more like normal people rather than otaku self-inserts

This right here is the reason my friends and brothers really like the movie. Especially Taki, he just comes off a normal highschool city boy instead of the typical anime protagonist with numerous cliche quirks.

>>161377529
I just want more Zaregoto.

>>161377755
laughable response

>>161377717
you are right and I'm not looking at it's success from the perspective of it caught on from word of mouth and generally being liked by the mainstream non otaku audience.

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>>161377612
Why can't they do feet correctly?

>>161377749
Well if we're talking talent for animation (and nothing else), then yeah. Their shows are the best looking in whichever season they air.
Most shows usually have either a detailed style, or a fluid animation (or neither).
Kyoani shows always have both.
I just wish their writers were as good as their animators.

>>161375999
>all they have fucked up in the past?
>Created the top two best selling anime series of the past twenty years, #2 and #3 of all time.

???????

>>161377889
not every show is a masterpiece but each one comes off as fun or heartwarming and usually both. That's better then 90% of what airs in a season.

>>161377812
Speaking of stuff people want from SHAFT, will we ever get a 4th season of Zetsubou Sensei? Why did they stop making it?

>>161377873
They can but only on close ups. Like their hands.

>>161378061
>Created the top two best selling anime series of the past twenty years, #2 and #3 of all time.
So how come they haven't followed up this pedigree with more great stuff?

>>161376059
>Using pretentious as a criticism in 2017

>>161378080
That's true, but that's the only thing they could do right, which isn't a bad thing. SHAFT should followed in their example and keep on adapting waxing philosophical banter. A show like Sakurada Reset would've been a lot more well received if it were handled by SHAFT.

>>161378207
I think that some anon(s) pointed out before that nearly every studio has only had 1-3 big series that are pretty much all that sustains them.
Then lazyass Toei is too rich and immortal overall.

>>161377889
This. It's a shame because they could be making Psycho Pass S1s or Rakugos but always opt for CGDCT.

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>>161378412
>spend the least amount of money on anime
>make the most amount of money on anime

Nips don't like half assed NTR. It's not a surprise this flopped.

Why can't SHAFT make more Madoka anyway

>>161378542
Urobutcher has no idea where to take the series after rebellion.

>>161378467
>CGDCT
have you even watched their shows or do you assume all their shows are K-on?

>>161378585
Make a spin off or something

>>161378467
>they could be making Psycho Pass S1s
Thank God they aren't making drivel like that because Psycho Pass was never good.

>>161378585
Japan has never been very big on sequels. The anime industry is all about the quick easy $$ because the audience is extremely fickle.

>>161375143
>failing for the keitai meme train
SHAFT is done

This could've been a good anime series instead of a mediocre movie.

Uchiage Hanabi was bad.
Every mid- to far-range character cut was bad CG, and of course so was every bicycle-riding cut. The pool swimming effects (body distortion, reflection, etc.) were hilarious. Basically every jumping, running and zooming cut was jerky as hell.
Inconsistent character art throughout. And all of this comes bundled with SHAFT's notorious over-the-top photography with very pronounced chromatic aberration and bad lens effects (not often used to be fair).
Oh, and the credits had 25 Assistant ADs. Two very down-to-Earth cuts but that stood out nonetheless amid the mess were one running cut by Genichirou Abe most likely, and another character acting and falling (Kojima I presume).

>>161378845
>mediocre movie
try bad movie

>>161375143
What's this rushed production thing?

>>161378895
People will pretend that this is exaggerated or a straight up fake review be we can see all of that in >>161376317.

>>161378933
Shaft can't into decent scheduling, so certain cuts that could've been better animated and edited weren't due to a lack of time

>>161378933
Have to get it out as soon as possible to take advantage of the KNNW hype and they have nisio stuff to do.

>>161375143
>mediocre 275 million yen weekend opening across 300 screens
how is this movie still going to make more than Kizu? Exactly how badly did Shaft fuck up their magnum opus?

>>161375798
It will win the best slideshow award

>>161379549
Huge difference in marketing and number of screenings. Kizu is a much better produced work.

>>161379549
Because it's marketed as a mainstream movie and not an anime film

>>161375143
I miss pre-Monogatari series Shaft

>>161379799
>>161379652
but wont the marketing budget bite them back?

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>>161378207
they're busy with 3-gatsu this time

>>161380069
you mean last encore?

>>161375798
if Your Name couldn't even get nominated theres no way in hell this will

>>161379549
TOHO

>>161380040
looks like marketing is the only thing they spent money on, so no

>>161380040
Maybe, but that's Toho's problem.

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>>161379223
>can't into decent scheduling
you just write your schedule on a cute white board and follow it, how hard is that?

>>161378113
One of the voice actress died, and the manga is finished. No point in promoting it anymore.

>>161380204
The movie had quite a lot of animators working on it due to the rushed production so I won't be surprised if it went over the initial animation budget. Obviously it wouldn't cost as much as Your Name though.

>>161380398
>exactly 2 months for the entire key animation of the movie
Impressive, I was pretty certain it would took longer.

>>161377419
lets not forget garden of words too

>>161375143
source?

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So is it that bad? the movie will be out here in a few weeks so i wondering if i should go see it.

>>161375143
so what is this movie about??

>>161382569
a boy and a girl fall in love something something

>>161377612
They can't animate decent fights.

>>161380799
Koe no Katachi wasn't really well animated, 2 months for key animation is doable.

>>161382569
The wiki of the 1993 live action had this

>One summer day a group of sixth-grade boys have an argument about whether fireworks are round or flat when viewed from different angles and embark on a journey for the answer during the annual firework festival. Meanwhile, one of their classmates, Nazuna, is troubled by her parents' separation and decides to choose one of the boys to run away with.

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>>161382710
Animate? They definitely can. Choreograph? That's arguable.

Pic related is not supposed to prove much, it's just one fight I had saved.

>>161383260
hows the movie?

>>161380124
Yea
Its also NHK funded so they better work hard on it

>>161375143
Shaft has always been pretension no talent hacks
Stick to milking your cash cow harems

>>161383364
>that "punch" at 0:03
What the fuck

200 million for the first weekend seems decent enough.

>>161383260
Did anyone of you saved the link some anon posted? Can't find it in the archive. And some of you were saying the movie wasn't bad.

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>>161377683
Sure, Shinkai was pretty niche before, but you really can't compare his previous works to Kimi no Na Wa. In my opinion, Kimi blows Garden of Words out of the water. Garden of Words was pretty, as are all Shinkai films, but really had no characters developed outside of it's OTP which felt forced, anyway. It was quaint, it was a pleasant fantasy of a high school boy, and if you're an animu fan, you'll be willing to put up with the cloying melodrama of the yelling on the stairway scene. But Kimi No Na Wa had a richer world, better array of characters outside of its OTP (even the little we saw of Mitsuha's parents' past was more compelling to me than even the backstory of the teacher in Garden of Words), and more runtime to flex the beauty of the animation. Of course, the film had a lot of flaws, but you can see it's wider appeal compared to his other work.

Btw, I think 5 cm per Second, which I didn't touch on above, is a more emotionally rich movie than Kimi, but it came too early in Shinkai's career to be a blockbuster. Also, 5cm is more like a short story collection, Kimi like a novel. You can see why Kimi got bigger.

>>161383368
Interesting. The acting and camerawork are pretty mediocre, but the core of the movie is engaging enough, and does a good job of making you nostalgic for childhood. If you were the type to fantasize about your crush then it might hit you hard than others.

Glasses kid was /ourguy/

>>161383541
I agree. Everyone should be able to punch effectively with their non dominant hand.

>>161383664
It's not only the movement of the hand itself, it's the movement of the entire body
It's like a little kid trying to punch someone after throwing a tantrum
And yet the guy was dexterous enough to parry her blow just before with that same arm

>>161383728
Wait, sorry, I got confused
He didn't parry, she did
My mistake

>>161383615
I don't know what argument you're even trying to make. My point was that Kimi's success couldn't be just because of Shinkai's name, since his name wasn't even that praised before Kimi. Kimi's success was because of its own merits, even though I personally didn't think the movie was that groundbreaking. I definitely enjoyed it a lot, but I would compare that enjoyment to movies like hollywood blockbusters where you have a few main characters to root for and the plot is presented well enough to invest you into it. I liked it and I liked the whole lore of it, I just don't think it was very meaningful, just fun.

>>161383364
To be fair, good action choreography in anime is rare. Most action scenes just involve wild swings the the opponent and big explosions.

>>161377588
How is Taki not an easy self-insert? There's nothing unique about him and he always does the right thing. They even had the option to expand on his character and connect him to Mitsuha with his mom being absent, but it's never brought up at all.

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>>161375143
>Take kimi no na wa
>Cut out the god tier animation
>Make movie a slideshow
Why is it flopping?! Reeeee

>>161377873
What studio can actually do feet correctly outside of close ups? even Shaft is bad at feet when they aren't the focus.

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>>161379894
This.

>>161378821
It's strange really, because a well done sequel for Madoka will rake in money no matter what.

I'm more inclined to believe Shaft and Butcher just write themselves into a corner with Madoka and since any sequel will be under heavy scrutinization they just sort of give up on it.

>>161376317
I really don't think highly of Kimi no Na wa, but holy fuck this looks bad and unoriginal af.

>>161376317
If you told me this was just another SHAFT tv anime I'd believe you. Comparing this to Your Name is a joke.

>>161376620
I agree. I liked is designs in Monogatari and The World God Only Knows, in almost every other show they just look off-putting.

>>161384680
They were good in Grisaia too.

>>161375143
Eh, they already hit it out of the park twice in the last year with the Kizu trilogy and 3-gatsu. They can't all be winners.

>>161384680
Etotama and TWGOK looked good, the rest I don't like.

>>161384814
>hit it out of the park
>Kizu trilogy
Good joke.

>>161384814
I hope you're not talking about sales.

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Shaft is finally dying?!
Great news!

>>161384840
What was bad about them?

>>161384856
Kizu did fine in sales, don't actually fall for the "everything ever is a flop" meme. And 3-gatsu got high enough ratings and had enough of a mainstream appeal that it brought big bucks in for NHK. The fact that they've already funded a 2 cour 2nd season attests to that.

>>161384912
Kizu did kinda terrible in sales. The first movie got like 600 million yen which isn't all that much. The 2nd and 3rd got much less. Source is Wikipedia.

>>161384966
Each part also made 30k+ in bluray/dvd sales, so they definately made a good profit on it.

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>>161384966
>source is wikipedia

Shaft better not fucking die on me before they make Zoku Owarimonogatari or animate the SZS ending for an OVA.

>>161375143
300 screens seems way to ambitious for a film like this from a mediocre studio. They were setting themselves up for failure thinking Kimi no na wa is easy to replicate. Not a good look for Toho or shaft

>>161385335
>SZS ending
I don't want to break this to you anon, but that'll never happen

>>161385458
Toho will be fine; they'll have the new Hosoda film next summer and that's guarenteed to sell.

It's a bigger issue for Shaft, since this flop might lead production committees to look towards other studios for feature films.

>>161384357
>unoriginal
this exist long way before kimi no nawa

>>161384966
>Source is Wikipedia.

>>161376317
Wow that vid has 11m views I guess that band is pretty popular? Too bad it doesn't translate to the box office haha

>>161385766
>band

>>161378490
They survive on budgeting, being immoral sociopaths, and nostalgia pandering.
Them having a workhorse anime production schedule is part of the reason they are successful to be honest.
Being the best is great but being good and consistent but occasionally shit and consistent but with a few bits of great can go a long way.

But Toei is now in that place where they are just surviving off of glories long past and nostalgia+power of the IP they built up and have exploited.

>>161384299
>It's strange really, because a well done sequel for Madoka will rake in money no matter what.

The movies bombed though so...

>>161386587
I'm pretty sure any late night anime would want to bomb like Rebellion.

Also recaps don't count.

>>161386506
I hardly even consider them an animation studio at this point, they're just a factory that pumps out products that happen to be animated series. Their methods of manufacturing wouldn't change if they were making toiletries instead of anime.

>>161386587
>Rebellion
>Bombed

Someone please enlighten me on this matter.

>>161376324
Damn that really is some unhealthy obsession you have with KyoAni, which once again isn't relevant to this topic at all. You and your buddies should really get checked up some day considering your mental state.

>>161385250
>>>161384966
Can't be bothered to look for the actual source in the source section.

Wasn't there a thread a few days ago saying how well it did, and it sold more than Koe no Katachi?

>>161377612

>king
>animation

Bitch there was nothing good in Koe no Katachi that was comparable to Kimi no Na wa.

Their portfolio as well doesn't compare to Ghibli or Kon's films.

>>161388078
Its sale on the opening day was good, but it kinda trickled out quick.

>>161375143
yeah, now 36m first weekend is bad for an anime

>The film had earned 170 million yen (about US$1.56 million) on its opening day on Friday, and is expected to earn a total of 4 billion yen (US$36.6 million) at the Japanese box office

>>161388524
>and is expected to earn a total of 4 billion yen (US$36.6 million) at the Japanese box office

Dream on. No way in hell with this kind of mixed reception will push it to 4 billion yen.

It's fucking stupid how ANN keeps quoting yaraon.

Looks like someone want to ride Kimi No Wa hype train. Like thousand TV shows after K-ON

>>161380799
Key Animation is incredibly tied to skill. A good animator will do his cuts WAY faster than a rookie. When I was working on The Breadwinner, we were joking about how the animation director was going to animate the whole movie by himself.
>>161383070
>Koe no Katachi wasn't really well animated
I love this meme.

>>161388925
>I love this meme.

Well technically, Koe no Katachi is well animated like most KyoAni anime.

But it's not Movie Standard. Which is why I get why it's already being shunned by critics as so-so film.

>>161388991
It definitely is movie standard. It's weakness comes from the way it handled characters in the story, certainly not from the animation. I haven't seen a single seen in that movie that looked TV-tier.

>>161375143
It seems like their opening was better than Koe no Katachi's though.
I guess it comes down to how it holds up in the following weeks, is the reviews are bad it's possible that it will flop.

>>161389091
It's easy to open higher than Koe with thrice as many screens.

>>161388925
>breadwinner

10 million for flash tier static flatness

When was the last time a hyped anime film flopped in Japan?

>>161390221
Kizu

>>161390237
Nah, that did okay given its rather limited release and how fast the films were being released. Those films aren't even full-length feature films.

>>161384814
>they already hit it out of the park twice in the last year with the Kizu trilogy
I actually laughed.

>>161390192
N-No bully anon. We had really good animators, it's the art direction that wanted everything to be flat.
Not even kidding, they had freaking guidelines about not having to much depth in the clean (to the point that I often had to erase lines in the clothes made by the animators).

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>>161375143
I've watched literally every Shaft shows since Tsukuyomi and I live in Tokyo. But there is absolutely no way I'm going to watch this movie. Here is why

First of all, I'm furious about how Shaft-and Aniplex- killed off other big projects for the sake of this normie pandering cash cow. Zaregoto is delayed for fuck I don't even count anymore and almost all of Owarimonogatari specials got outsourced. A movie project is a big deal I know that but that's just now how they should treat the titles that are so cherished by long-time fans

This comes to my second reason; quality. If they chose to focus on this movie then they at least had to come up with some impressive outcome. What we got? Schedule management disaster and QUALITIES everywhere, just like any other ordinary Shaft shows. What were those sacrifices for? Hell even Kyoani can do better than this shit with their fucking TV shows. Shaft tried to punch above their weight and failed miserably

The last and biggest reason is, well, the casting. Both Suda and Hirose have absolutely no fucking talent. I don't even know how they keep getting job offers. You can immediately notice this even by just listening to their few lines on TV commercials (e.g: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfdrS8c2FQA). You don't speak Japanese? Imagine English actors dubbing Japanese anime, except with pronunciation so horrible that the audience actually have to put some effort to get it. It's that bad. Oh and also, about Hirose, she's er, well, you know, she's a bitch. The kind of bitch that you never get to like. Those who were talking about a new Your Name were simply making fun of themselves. The name Hirose alone has as an army of haters enough to keep themselves away from theatres

To sum it up, I'm glad this movie is going down in flames and hope it serves as a warning signal to Shaft and Aniplex. No more of this shit. Thank God I can see my Kunagisa at last later this month!

>>161390973
Suda and Hirose are there for the popular young star factor, they though they could redo Kamiki and Kamishiraishi's thing like Your Name. They even cast Miyano as a supporting character to bait his fangirls.

>>161390973
Anyeong haseyo, nip anon.

>>161391444
Ni hao, gook anon.

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>>161391269
Loads of publicity for this show. Too bad it didn't work out in profits.

>>161390973
I'd usually say nice blog but I actually agree and think you make several good points. I've been waiting until Zaregoto airs completely to watch it because I can't bear the scheduling, and to know that it was pushed even further back pissed me off.

>>161375143
because SHAFT is not kyoani.

If KYOANI had made this movie it'd sell 2x 4billion yen.

>>161391269
>the popular young star factor

That's the problem. Bunch of idiot teens in their middle-high is basically all the fanbase they've got, especially Hirose. Her name is pretty much meh for most of those above 20. Not quite a nice publicity strategy for a show biding to be a new Your Name, I guess

>>161391573
A Silent Voice made more with 283m in its first weekend and that was with a third of the screens so yeah Kyoani most likely would've done better.

>>161384299
Butcher since day one didn't want to write for more sequels anyways. He's not as interested in Madoka as he is for Psycho-Pass or Thunderbolt Fantasy.

>>161386587
Recap movies sold around 110K BDs.
Rebellion made a shit-ton of money even with the mixed reception.

>>161390973
Can't really blame shaft, they had a chance to get some notoriety amongst normalfag filmgoers with this movie and try to make a name for themselves to be more than a late night studio. Too bad they blew it though.

The tepid first week might not doom the movie if it has good legs, but if the reviews are indeed not good then that's a bad sign. Makes you wonder why they don't just outright buy reviews like the west does on RT

All I've read is it's really boring but the music and VA work is solid.

Why they steal PA works design though, All I see is Nagi no Asukara in that image.

>>161393684
>VA work is solid

What the hell are you smoking?

>>161376317
I don't get people shitting on the visuals. Other than Kizu and Rebellion, this looks to be SHAFT's best production to date. It's kinda like someone took Denpa Onna and made it into a movie.

>>161393842
It is still not good enough for a featured movie standard.

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>>161393684
Just because you want to fuck Mamo doesn't mean Suda and Hirose are good.

>>161390973
Can't really blame them for outsourcing Owari when they were barely going to animate it in the first place. Ever since Nise, the monogatari anime haven't really needed a huge amount of effort put into them and I wouldn't have expected them to suddenly change for Owari.

I also can't blame them for delaying Zaregoto. It's an old series that's already completed and obviously not top priority.

The schedule management is just typical SHAFT. Even when they're not as swamped as they are right now, they still have issues with getting shit done on time.

Not trying to say you're wrong. I pretty much agree, although I can't comment on the casting, but all of this was well within expectations of the studio.

>>161390973
Agreed. Shaft killed themselves for doing impossible schedule. This film was planned before Your Name but finished later.

For the casting, I expected that as a pushing from TOHO sides.

>>161394101
Basically. For shaft you have to keep expectations low and even then they may still disappoint you

>>161375143
I heard that the TVfilm director and script writer are shaftfag. Maybe they brought this to themselves.

>>161393631
>outright buy reviews like the west does on RT

For real? Which fucking website I've got to trust before going to theatre? Damn it

>>161394241
It kind of bugs me to see people say the film was made to "capitalise" on Kimi No Na Wa's success when it was in the works far before it but what can you do.

>>161390973
Not sure why you are picking on Aniplex so much here. The film was lead by Toho. The very same producer who was successful with Kimi no na Wa in fact.

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>>161394241
>This film was planned before Your Name but finished later

Seriously? You've got to be trolling me here. Kyoani took only 4 months to complete the sakuga part of the Koe no Katachi production. I can't believe Shaft took longer than Your Name to spill out that sort of crap. Numbers just don't add up

>>161394567
Planning and production are very much different things. Most of the stuff we hear about is planned for years prior to the announcement even.

>>161390973
What is the deal with Hirose? Is she a slut or a high-and-mighty-I-hate-otaku kind? Or a mixture of both?

>>161394676
More like a 'high-and-mighty-I-hate-commoner-scums' kind. At least that's how she's perceived as

>>161393842
When you're appealing to the mainstream, emotions are more important than pretty visuals.

>>161375143
The masses are not able to understand Shaft's genius.

>>161394567
>planned
anon...

>>161393842
Just sold me on watching this.

>>161394837
God bless them

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>>161393842
When all the faces of pic related is from a single movie you know there is a serious issue

>>161394875
I've posted this pic to save your money and time /a/non

>>161394567
Because of their tight schedule, Shaft just started the production process not long ago. That's why many anons complained about their schedule management.

Shaft never learns. Every year they are plagued by the same issues, really makes you think

>>161394511
Maybe because of the way they advertise Kawamura Genki with his previous success.

>>161388246

KnK was better than KnNw

>>161394969
>That's why many anons complained about their schedule management.

Literally since Hidamari S1. It's just unbelievable if you think about it. It's like if they just don't have any capacity to learn a damn thing or two

is this out on public trackers or irc yet?

>>161394962
Literally senjogahara. Shaft thought they would lure in otaku with these designs?

>>161395018
The thing is anybody who honestly believes a film is going to be planned and made in the time since Kimi no na Wa released especially at a studio as busy as SHAFT probably doesn't even know who Kawamura Genki is.

>>161394962
Can't blame the animators here, there're not many people in the industry who can imitate this designer style. This is also the request from original authors. I don't know why shaftfags (yes, they are) really like this style so much.

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In 2010-14 they were riding the wave of Madoka, Nisekoi, Monogatari, whatever.

In the past 6 years the only thing they made in 3-5 years was 3gatsu that WASN'T Monogatari. I mean, that's the only thing they're known for these days "the studio that milks monogatari".
Nobody even considers them a good studio anymore. Somewhere down the road, SHAFT went to shit. Where did it go wrong?

>>161395149
Ah those golden years. Shaft had really seemed like a good contender to beat Kyoani, you know

>>161395149
They're very humble and doesn't know how to decline.
Even the author of March comes like a Lion request his anime adaptation to use Shinbo and Bake artstyle. Luckily shinbo turned down the latter idea.

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>>161382569
Literally about fireworks and blooming romance.
I watched it in a japanese film festival my high school had a long time ago because I was required to. It's boring as fuck.

>>161395149
>In the past 6 years the only thing they made in 3-5 years was 3gatsu that WASN'T Monogatari.
Zaregoto
Koufuku Graffiti
Hidamari Sketch
Mekakucity Actors
Literally the movie this thread is about

do you guys just like being obtuse for the sake of drama

>>161395149
They put Oishi in a basement somewhere working on a film project that never came out and lost Shin Oonuma leaving them with a bunch of fledgling directors with far too little oversight attempting to imitate the style Shinbo established working with those two. There is a reason Kizumonogatari is visually the best thing SHAFT has produced. It actually had a good director. Then on top of that they seem to have fucked up the project of one of their most promising talents as a director with this film by rushing production.

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>>161395280
Stop being such a deluded faggot. stop defending their terrible anime the past few years. Please.

>Shaft
>not Monogatari
Who literally gives a fucking shit? If I wanted to watch some mediocre meme movie I'd just wach Your Name. Glad it flopped.

>SHAFT
Into the trash.

>>161395149
And they will continue to milk Monogatari until it's dried.

>all those blatant Kyoanus shills itt
Pathetic.

>>161395310
>>161395149
Oh also taking on far too much work consistently over that time period has never helped but they at least used to be able to create unique and interesting shit when poorly managing their deadlines around the time they were making SZS, Monogatari, PPD and Bake because they still had talents available in the form of Oonuma and Oishi.

>>161395461
The OP is pretty much taken straight from ultimatemegax tweets and made even more baity so what do you expect really.

Shaft should just stick to shitting out monogatari series as the fanbase will just eat that shit up no matter how badly produced it is
>Someone paid to see that shitshow that was kizumonogatari

>another theatrical disappointment

Could not have happened to a more deserving studio. Their brand of apathetic incompetence year in year out should not be rewarded

>>161377612
Speaking of it how come Kyoani's shows always have great production values, especially compared to the rest?

>>161384654
>Comparing this to Your Name is a joke.
Agree, even if it's not great, it's still going to be better than Shinkai's generic garbage.

>>161395502
Now it makes sense.
Is there any worse fanbase than kyoanusfags?

>>161396419
Shatfags are worse obviously, with how they deflect towards Kyoani every time their studio does something wrong

>>161395231
>his anime
Umino is a woman.

Character design for Anime Otaku lost at least 200 million yen.

Producer was too much of a pussy to follow Shinbo's advice and make the art style a part of the plot. It might have elevated it above the original but it's just mediocre and a waste of potential. They could've done anything they wanted with animation and decided to play it safe.

>>161397805
I thought $hinbo is a big deal at Shaft, even he can't get his way?

>>161397994
He actually has an artistic vision, can't have that when you want to cash in fast.

>>161397994
You know how anime works right? A group of companies funds a production. Regardless of what you want as a director if those companies aren't on board with that you have two choices, quit the project and find something else or accept what is imposed on you and make the best you can of it.

>>161398148
I would think there are some directors who can have their vision uncompromised but clearly shinbo is not one of them

>>161375260
>Just like how after K-ON, everyone tried their hand at a moe anime (and a lot of them sucked.)

Are you new to anime anon?

More Salami-san when?

>>161399417
Not as such, I am sure some can command greater amounts of respect and get more creative freedom but even Mamoru Oshii has complained that he can't get funding for anime projects because I assume he is unwilling to compromise.

>>161397805
Source?

In winter KyoAni with VEG on tv will make all kinoanime movies suck

>>161375310
Is it any good?

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Next Year: Pretty shit vs Artsy shit

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Japan prefers the live action to this adaptation. I guess that's not surprising

>>161403359
Did they learn English and come here to shitpost too? Because no one here has seen it but are shitting on it already.

>>161403309
Both look pretty and artsy. Kyoani looks like Kyoani, and SHAFT looks like SHAFT. Both are good

>>161375143
>kimi no naka on tight budget with shit designs

hahahahaha, shaft is shit

>>161395280
>Zaregoto
Monogatari wannabe
>Koufuku Graffiti
CGDCT except it's a Monogatari wannabe
>Hidamari Sketch
ok
>Mekakucity Actors
Monogatari wannabe
>Literally the movie this thread is about
Monogatari wannabe

>>161396171
different business and production models

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Next, it's Aniplex's turn to try and replicate Keit-ai.

>>161405695
>A boy falls in love with a girl.
>She dies.

>>161405695
>I want to eat your pancreas
What did they mean by this?

>>161405695
The live action for this is already in theaters and doing ok, the adaptation could very well make more than this shaft movie