Dragon Ball Super

fuck off

It was pretty good, lots of action and Hit got to shine for a bit, also Champa having a vuvuzela was hilarious

>>161342203
I want to blow on champas vuvuzuela after he has already slobbered on it.

Dyspo VS 17 who wins?

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Leave Universe 6 saiyans to me

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>Fist Kale
>Your hand comes out like this
Was it worth it?

The best episode since the start of this arc by far.
Lots of action, interesting characters, almost no filler shit.

>>161342448
Best boy wins.

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Reminder all the Dragon Room did was retcon the manga into being the true canon. Thanks Shueisha.

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Can someone explain why the fuck Roshi hasn't been blown off the stage by being around all these people who are millions of times stronger than him?

>>161342492
Hit's abilities are fucking cool and Goku was savage as fuck. I hope Jiren won't disappoint after all of this.

>>161341694
Really bad episode, nothing really happening and the Pride Troopers continue to do nothing but lose and look like designated characters to beat for U7 and U6.

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Why are 7 if the troopers shit? Why is there such a gap from the rest of them and jiren?

>>161342480
Only if I can insert my whole head.

I think 17 is becoming my new favorite character

>>161342448
17 has the barrier.
Like Hit's timeskip, even if Dyspo's ability lets him attack first, he has a problem if he can't reach his opponent opponent.

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Reposting from last thread. I'm practising my Moon, so here's some comments from the 2ch thread.

"You did not need Goku for this story"

They've talking about the Red Vs Blue thing a lot.

"Since the manga is more popular, I guess they bringing over the manga version."
"The manga is also pretty dumb."

"Goku was actually pretty good today.
It's like the manga version got imported over."

"Roshi's totally getting knocked out next episode."

"I remember the vuvuzela from the 2010 FIFA World Cup."

"Vegeta hasn't had a success since the ninth battle lol"

"I was bored only having one enemy but now this is more boring than the Zamasu arc."

"So he's moving at the speed of sound, which is faster than the speed of light? "
"Hit is faster than the speed of sound but the sounds of the muscles is transmitted to Dyspo earlier lol"
"It's because he's a rabbit"

"I left for five minutes and came back to Olive Oil Face and vuvuzela"

I think they make fun of Champa by calling him "olive oil face"?

"Hit is this week's MVP. Champa gets the Supporting Actor Award. "

"So far it doesn't seem like Freeza was necessary. I guess they're building up to him and Frost making a coup d'état or something?"

"The art seems good for the first time in a while, the movement seemed smooth. Decent quality episode."

"Last thread someone said 'Zen-Oh is omniscient' but he clearly isn't if he can not see the Hit and Dyspo movements. So with that, he's inferior to Vados and Whis."

"I don't think the situation would have changed that much if they had brought Yamcha instead of Freeza."
"Yamcha wouldn't be able to win against Kakunsa"

They are talking about Uub a little and whatever Red/Blue was going on. I'm bad at Lore so it's hard to translate.

"GT still worthless trash lol"

>>161342603
bad writing, cheap animation, senile creator.

>>161342448
Producer-kun would never allow anyone to touch his precious husbando so 17 win easily

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>>161342480
>being so weak your hand and not her is what ends up being broken during the ryona

>>161342573
Roshi is at least as strong as one of Freeza's soldiers. Aside from 2 or 3 people of each team, the rest are pretty weak.

>>161342652
>they have koreans, this thread has pedros.

>>161342603
why are 7 of the z-warrios shit? why is ther such a gap from the rest of them and goku?

>>161342573
Roshi was always based if I remember correctly.

>>161342603
Why is there such a gap between Hit and rest of the U6 or Goku and the U7? Or Trio de Danger and rest of the U9? It's almost like there's something fishy going on...

>>161342603
From what we've seen from their fights (like against the plant thing in their universe), I guess the Pride Troopers' strength isn't individual, but as a team. Except for Toppo and Jiren, the rest are pretty weak individually.

IT WAS GAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>>161342652
>1200

I'll fix it for you but only because it's Champa.

>>161342603
>>161342715
>>161342736
really makes you think

>>161342603
Because the writers have no idea of how to write a good antagonist or how to create any sort of buildup. Imagine how threatening the Pride Troopers would be if this episode had been the first time they fought, and then after Hit and Goku defeated Dyspo, Toppo said that Dyspo was their weakest member. That would be hype as fuck.

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would you let her finish you off?

>>161342715
You mean 6, at least Frieza, Vegeta and 17 can be good enough.

>>161342824
>let
I don't think I'd have much of a say in it

>>161342736
To be fair, Goku, Vegeta and Gohan are kinda on the same level with Goku being ahead, Vegeta a close second and Gohan as the wild card while we can't be sure how strong Frieza really is, probably as much as Goku or even stronger so U7 isn't that imbalanced Fuck 17, I refuse to accept the retcon

>>161342715

gohan, 17 18, freeza vegeta are by no reasonable means shit
>>161342736
>rest of the U6
kale is not shit and we don't know anything about how strong the namekians may be

Kunshi was based.

>>161342866
gohan was given the crown and failed.

I'm glad toriyama failed .

>>161342829
there is no way they've made 17 stronger than gohan and we all know gohan is going to job hard

>>161342603
>Why is there such a gap from the rest of them and jiren?
Why do you expect everyone to be at the same level?
>>161342866
>and Gohan
No.

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Im glad my boy Dyspo wasnt just gonna get eliminated by Hit and actually put up a fight.
>Were done playing the hero
HERE COMES THE AYYLMAO
>Roshi vs U4
>Ganos gets to fight again
LETS BEGIN THE DRAGON QUEST

>>161342942
>>161342942
>and Gohan
>No.
why not

>>161342573
He know how to fight and how to fuck off if the enemy is stronger than him.

So three things of importance this episode:
-SSGSS is stronger than SSG. That's confirmed. It's also confirmed that Goku can call upon that form at will. This whole thing seems like video game balancing to me though. It's slightly weaker but takes less stamina? Is this seriously an RPG or something?

-Zeno(s) couldn't see shit. They can't keep up with fast fighters, even though Angels and high level fighters could. This might mean that Zeno can't fight at all, he can just do grand cosmic shit. I mean we know he really can delete universes because he destroyed all of them in the last arc, but that might be a different form of power than being able to fight. This explains why he has bodyguards.

-Pride Troopers might not be as good or noble as we thought. Toppo told them to drop the hero act and just survive. Now this doesn't mean they were faking it before, but it might imply that. We'll have to see. Jiren might be a legit villain and not just the antagonist we thought he was.

Champa is South African confirmed

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>>161342885
>kale is not shit
Yes she is; can't even hurt SS2 Gokuck.

>>161342990
>didn't train, weak as fuck. gets one episodes where its all magiced back.

even toyo could'nt fix it.

>>161343024
LSS not being a match against SS2 is nothing new, she definitely seemed more powerful than Broly ever was in the movies though.

>>161343013
>U6 was the true pedros
IT ALL MAKES SENSE

>>161342990
Because he is not at their level.

>>161342885
18 is a girl on a shounen series and she'd be out of the tournament if it wasn't for Krillin. Maybe it was fanservice for feeding the fragile ego of Japanese men but still happened. Besides, there's no proof so far she's even SSJ2-tier so not even close to 17's mounstrous power-up. Wouldn't be surprised if 18 get eliminated and 17 remain for really long time. Toei invested too much on him already.

>>161343024
You should've continued to the part where she took an SSGSS Kamehameha to the face and didn't even get a scratch.

>>161342866
>Fuck 17, I refuse to accept the retcon
What retcon?

>>161343097
>SSGSS
Also known as SSHB (super saiyan holding back).

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>>161343097
>i-i was just holding back, stupid stacy!

i thought the mods said no generals; or are they not even going to enforce their own rules like they already do?

>>161341694
Did goku use time skip when he popped over in God form? everything paused and he was able to move faster than Hit or Dyspo could catch but he didn't use IT. either way it was pretty gratifying to see goku put U11 in their place. Can't wait to see him do it again and again.

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>>161342990

>>161343158
this isnt the only Super thread and a new episode released today, warranting a thread.
Anyone got webms of the new episode today?

>Caulifla told Kale to shut up
>havent seen any >>>/u/shit
Really makes you think.

>>161343158
Is it really a general if it's just talking about the current episode? Isn't that just... a topic of discussion?

The new general rules are dumb either way.

>>161343158
That's because there's a new episode.

>>161343009
I still want Jiren to be his Universe's Freeza. I mean, both Frost and Freeza (and his extended family) are said to be mutations from a base species, causing their grandiose abilities. I want Jiren to be that base race, that because of circumstances in his Universe, he was still stronger.

>>161343158
>i thought the mods said no generals
When did they say that?

>>161343246
Read the fucking sticky.

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>>161343137
They try so hard to make it like the Broly movie, and it looks like complete shit every time,

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>>161342990
>>161343175

>>161343097
Look here, you stupid ass gay spic, if Kale was stronger, why would Goku tell Kale and Caulifla to get stronger? And why would he keep attacking Jiren if Kale is enough of a challenge? Spics like you, Felipe, don't use their grape sized brains.

>>161342567
What are human universe 6 people are like?
Psycho-powered people (a mish mash of Mother and Akira)?

>>161343286
>that fucking punch animation
EVERY FUCKIGN TIME

>>161343158
New episode but yeah people shouldn't be linking to a new thread since generals aren't allowed.

>>161343158
They could make /ag/ for dbz and any seasonal harem shit.

Does anyone want to see roshi doing something for once?

What was that new track they used? That was fabulous.

>>161342862
No but you could be a huge fucking tsundere about it

>>161343336
i don't particularly care if roshi does anything but seeing the mafuba again is always nice

>>161343326
>if you politely link to a new thread it's a general
?

>>161343158
tfw haven't seen a "Pre-2000's anime thread" since that sticky went up

I don't care about Dragon Ball General, I just want my favourite thread back

>>161343193
She wants the big Donut

>>161343376
Yes, it is a general because you're linking to a new thread to continue the old one.

>>161343363
The one when Dyspo was challenging Hit?

>>161342603
I feel like the pride troopers were created after Toriyama got butthurt from all the Goku vs Superman talks and discussion. Maybe it is just me, but I even hear them using English loanwords more often than everybody else.

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>>161343175
>>161343286

>>161343286
Kek, however made this is a genius. They even added Gohan holding his face in pain from when Super Buu punched him.

>>161343409
Get the fuck out. Who cares if these threads get banned anyway.

>>161343376
>- Please avoid making threads in “general” or “template” formats. Avoid chaining threads, copy-pasting OPs, backlinks, and the like.

>>161343418
where goku was fighting kunshi and flew over his shit whips

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>>161343286
Was this made right now? I wish I was there to see the Gohanfags reaction

>>161341694
When are we getting some Tien action?

>>161343418
When Hit lured him and punched him in the gut yes.

>>161343481
nah it got made some weeks ago

>>161343381
I remember seeing a pre-2000 thread just a couple of days ago. They aren't created constantly.

zeno has never been shown to have extreme physical prowess or omniscience

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He's Dyspo, his blue boyfriend was eliminated and he's sad, say something nice about him :)

>>161343381
I feel ya.

>>161343546
he gained some muscle since that point

>>161343286
that smile always gets me

>Mangafags thought Hit having trouble meant his strength was retconned
>He is still a badass motherfucker with all the abilities he used in the anime
Feels good.

>>161343542
thanks Captain Obvious

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HEAR THE SONG OF MY PEOPLE

>>161343546
Hell be back even stronger and will proceed to job to Vegeta.

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Feels goos to be a Toyofag

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>>161343436
Frieza is the only thing redeeming this arc. Prove me wrong.

>Goku can go SSG without explanation which is somehow weaker than SSB even though he was able to fight almost even with Beerus as SSG

>Goku barely being able to deal with enemies weaker than Dyspo but now is suddenly able to keep up with someone stronger than hit

>Jiren and Pride moustache just sit and watch their pals lose, but no big deal it's only the end of your universe

>Goku as usual helping destroy his universe by saving hit, who's a big threat to him

I mean, I watch DBS for shits and giggles but the lazy writing has gotten incredible. They truly do not give a shit at this point. At least folks that right fan fiction put passion into it, but this is just loveless.

>>161343602
Hit's whole shtick is his saiyan-like ability to adapt to the situation, him being in trouble is actually bad for the opponent since he's getting ready to whup their ass

>>161343363
This entire episode had a pretty great OST overall.

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>>161343602
>Almost got defeated by a SSG tier rabbit
>Not retconned

goku should just train the god form instead of relying on blue

>>161343625
Fuck outta here Vegetacuck cancer.

>>161343642
>almost even with Beerus as SSG
Hit was never serious.
>able to keep up with someone stronger than hit
Goku is stronger than Hit. And Hit is stronger than Dyspo.

I wouldn't call it lazy. If anything, it's a smarter choice to reuse your good animation for your less important moments instead of creating all new animation under deadlines that would end up looking shitty.
And if it ends up looking shitty, people would be right back here to complain...again.
So we might as well have people complaining over acceptable reused animation instead of bad animation altogether.
Also the part where it's a tournament which is a very action demanding arc with little time for winding down moments, even more so because it's a battle royale with zero winding down moments.

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Justicefags finally facing reality.

>>161341694
Damn son, a good super episode. this one was a golden egg for sure. good fights, animation wasn't too shitty, and i actually chortled at champa.

So this clear it was up, Hit beat Dyspo by essentially just baiting him into thinking he would do something different?

He didn't actually get faster than him, given there was no line about him improving.

>>161342573
Because he's motherfucking Master GODshi.

>>161342866
>strong as an early super saiyan being without any training gets defeated, fucks off for years then trains and because of his huge potential becomes a power house.

Who am I talking about?

The answer is frieza, because 17 is baseline stronger than a early super saiyan without any effort.

>>161343231
Frieza, Cold and probably Frost area hybrid mutant species.

On Earth we have two lizards that if they mate (and their ranges intersect often so it happens a lot) thy produce a third species that is female and reproduces asexually.

Dragonball is such a parody of itself now

>>161343629
Fucking loved this.

>SSG was shown destroying planets in episode 13 just by punching
>now weaker than Kale and Krillin and 17, who all went toe to toe with SSB

fukin lmao mates

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>Leave Universe 4 to me...

Hey, I love Roshi, but why there are people that think Roshi will eliminate all Universe 4 warriors? he will barely be able to fight the magical girl nº4 and using his most dangerous technique, I bet he will be eliminated by one of the hidden warriors... defeat the universe 4 or at least its two hidden warriors is the purpose of Tenshinhan in the tournament, so he will be next after Roshi but don't be surprised if Universe 4 is erased before episode 107.

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Waku Waku Universe 4

>>161343696
20 bucks says that ayy lmao will still sit back and watch his other two team mates get eliminated before he does anything

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Reminder that Toyo browses /a/. Tell him something nice

>>161343671
If it helps your shit brains figure something out, imagine the power of SSG, which was a pretty big deal, you fucking retard, with godly combat speed. He dodged an SSB punch, for god's sake.

>>161343694
Make good reusable animation that you can alter to make it different notable with minimal effort

>>161343642
beerus is stronger than blue and was just toying around with god goku

>>161343642
>1
SSB has always been stronger than SSG. beerus was holding back in his fight against Goku in BoG arc, said so himself, not to mention beerus is actually frightened of SSBKK. it's not a stretch of the imagination to recognize goku can go SSG at any point after having done the ritual already.

>2
Dyspo was stronger than hit for about 1 minute, Goku's been fucking around the whole time as well.

>3
jiren is a faggot and toppo is an asshole, but your point is actually good

>4
>implying hit and goku aren't best buds at this point
goku would give up his universe for a pal who actually wants to train with him no questions asked

>>161343765
I like your stuff Toyo but please don't make the villains job as much, 6v7 tourney was a little underwhelming.

>>161343671
His strength has not been retconned at all. And Dyspo is stronger than SSG. When they switched opponents Dyspo had the advantage. Both Goku adn Hit are also much stronger than before.

>>161342448
17 gets rekt before he can use barrier.

>>161343671
>>161343642

>retarded rabbit who's really fast
>has no power, no real good moves, just fast
>"ssg-tier"

You stupid fucking mongoloids, kys please.

>>161343132
He fought park rangers for like 10 years and became a god

if it works like that why wasn't the 17 from future trunks timeline even 1/10th as strong

>>161343421
Nah they're just ginyu force rehashes. Just slightly more noble.

>>161343803
Hit beat Dyspo with mindgames

>>161343756
Krillin and 17 trained. Kale was clearly fazed from tanking a kamehameha that Goku couldn't use full-force without risking killing her and therefore getting disqualified.

Anything can destroy planets in Dragon Ball since the Saiyans appeared, a punch doing that is nothing.

>>161343827
Maybe the progression isn't linear.

>>161343700
I took it to mean hit improved mentally and not physically this time, learned to switch up his attacks and not rely solely on the brute force of the time skip all the time

So I just thought of something. Hit can go into his dimension at will, and avoid any damage. He can even attack from there if he wants. Why the fuck didn't he do this immediately against Dyspo. he seems to have no counter to that. He really shouldn't have needed Goku's help, against both Dyspo and Kunshi.

>>161343844
While holding back at that. If killing was allowed stupid hare would be dead

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Did they use JoJo references in the latest episode?

>>161343762
No one is going to bet against you, anon. This tournament is nothing but trash so it is natural for them to go that route.

>>161343883
Fuck off nigger

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>>161343602
In the manga "Vegeta you totally could have taken him for sure easily if you didn't waste energy transforming for Cabba. Actually his ability can be overpowered super easily. He's actually weak, we were always stronger than him actually. We had to start the fight off with weak transformations in order to have any tension". It came off as Saiyan wank of the worst kind, a strong guy as strong or stronger than them couldn't exist in another universe, so he had to be taken down several notches and they had to make it clear he was never seriously a challenge for them. His ability was nerfed from the onset to be gimmick tier in the manga, when in the anime he was boss.

Meanwhile in the anime: Hit is badass, as strong or stronger than Goku, Goku has to pull out new tricks to even have a chance, Hit is evolving too fast, he's a new cool guy Goku has to surpass. He's a guy with a lot of hype behind him that made him come off as cool. The manga shot all that hype for Hit before it could start, because he was potentially a threat to saiyan supremacy.

Toyo seems bad at handling the climax of the arcs compared to the anime. While the anime's issues are mostly just pacing and shit animation.

>>161343868
At will doesn't mean he doesn't have a price or limit at that. What if the number of times he can go is limited or tires him out somehow? Going there would be more risky that baiting Dyspo while tanking some hits to just throw him off by phasing through him instantly later

>>161343845
look at this goddamn justifying you super fags do

"they trained"

"planet busting galaxies far away just by punching is nothing"

Fuck this, why are the Pride Troopers (a fucking superhero team no less) so fucking nonchalant about this? Jiren, Toppo and Dyspo should have been knocking fighters out of the park. I understand that can't happen though, cause the battle royal wouldn't fucking last. Why couldn't we have a fucking tournament instead?

>>161343896
who cares about Japan vs translation, 'Frieza' looks better than 'Freeza'
I like both Satan and Hercule

>>161343923
>training means nothing in dragonball
Look at this retarded powerlevelfag

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>>161342441

>>161343902
The biggest problem is still Toriyama, though.

>>161343688
>Goku is stronger than Hit.
They've fought twice so far; first time Goku lost, second time Hit could finally go all out, and it was a draw. Goku still sees Hit as someone to surpass.

>>161343928
Honestly the real reason that doesn't happen is because no one but U6 and U7 are allowed to fight other universes. It's battle royale in name only. It's actually a u6/u7 tag team match against everyone else. Bravo Toriyama.

>>161343923
planets can't fight back. goku was able to cut down trees and obliterate rocks at the beginning of z but his punch didn't liquify raditz. same concept.

>>161343868
You don't show all your cards like that. THey knew about him probably because of Godtube which means they had not seen that ability.

>>161343624
Vados's face is pure..

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>>161343896
What's the matter? Hercule Satan and Frieza are two of my favorite characters.

Who was the strongest eliminated so far? Krillin or Kahseral?

>>161344014
opni

>>161343977
With his new form, you know very well who is the strongest.

>>161344014
The string fucker who got eliminated this episode

>>161343928
Because it's best to conserve strength rather than using a lot of power in meaningless battles. With Toppo claiming they had to retreat to recover stamina, it seemed they were doing their own fights off-screen, but not to the point they would get hurt or use too much energy.

Besides, knocking a lot of people off is the same as making yourself a target of others. It's best to lay low and only act when necessarily, such as when Jiren shot Kale who risked taking down other Troopers

>>161344002
I assumed that Dyspo knew about time skip since Hit has used it twice now. But I like your Godtube idea better.

>>161343803
>it's not a stretch of the imagination to recognize goku can go SSG at any point after having done the ritual already.
Except SSG was introduced as something temporary. The original Super Saiyan God was killed by his enemies when his powers faded away.
What made Goku special is that he somehow internalized the feeling of being a god and started tapping into that power after the transformation ended.
I agree it's not too much of a stretch to say that, since he can do that, he can access the transformation again, but I think it still needed to be clarified a bit more. It contradicts the first thing we're told about SSG, something people will remember as a rule of the transformation.

Maybe I missed something on Dyspos ability, but even if Hit baits, if Dyspo is moving so fast can't he sense that change in movement?

Or was he just so throughly mindfucked at that point he didn't know what was coming and off his game?

>>161344036
how the fuck is string boy a pride trooper? his power is literally just making rope and he didn't account for much in terms of physical ability. surely there are better candidates in U11 for a member of the troopers.

>>161344050
What I don't understand is how Toppo didn't one-shot that weak piece of shit Murichim. What happened to that fight?

>>161343928
>>161343985
also jiren, toppo, and dyspo were the only ones designed by toriyama, so they are the only ones who matter in the story

>>161344001
planets being destroyed by two people punching in different galaxies is a little different than that, Superfag. Especially when Krillin then goes toe to toe with an even stronger form after.

>>161344006
sex

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Made a thing incase no one else noticed

>>161344100
Well I thought the animation was a little too good this episode, whenever that seems to be the case copy pasta seems to follow.

>>161344100
I saw him finger Dyspo's mouth and I was like
heeere we gooo again

>>161344100
Of course we fucking noticed, who doesn't remember every time Vegeta got his ass kicked?

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SSW Ultimate Chadhan 2 soon.

>>161344069
Goku said Dyspo is fast but his attacks are straighforward and telegraphed. It's possible he can't adapt and change stance that fast after he starts moving super fast.

>>161344059
to be fair, it was temporary here too, he's only used SSG for maybe a minute or two, so I think it's probably still a temporary form he can access briefly (as opposed to SSJ1 which he can basically maintain forever at this point), but I had actually forgotten that, it could've definitely been clarified.

>>161344069
I thought Hit went into another dimension which Dyspo couldn't sense.

Is there even any drama left in this arc? Like I mean the way it's been going is there even any doubt at all that goku and co are going to clean house?

2 whole universes are already gone, u11 only has 3 people left, and so far only krillin has been eliminated?

Goku has just been fucking about up to this point, he hasnt even come close to getting serious yet. Vegeta hasnt dont dick shit and neither has Freeza, so theyre both still pretty much 100%. Then theres gohan and piccolo who havent been doing much either, they may not be god tier like the other 3 but theyre right up there.

Aside from hit, jiren and toppo theres really noone left of note from the other universes, based off the performance of the other teletubbies theres no real reason to believe brienne is anything special.

Oh and theres 17 and 18 running and their infinite stamina running amok too, I almost forgot about them. There is 0 tension to this arc at all, i didnt expect a lot but I'm still disappointed.

>>161341694
Episodes are looking more like filler each week. If Toei sticks to this formula of one person getting knocked off each week we will be stuck in this arc until next year. Also nothing interesting is happening at all. Goku 's transformation swapping is unexplained and lame. They really need to pick up the pace.

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Is there anything in the 13 universes softer than Champa's chubby cheeks?

>>161344177
Black arc was much better, because Black and Zamasu were powerful and were shown as such. In the UT tournament bitches are getting steamrolled left and right

>>161344095
>>161344095
>my argument! i can't sustain it!
>DAMAGE CONTROL GO
>SUPERFAG
>SUPERFAG
>SUPERFAG

>>161343902
The other thing that Toyo does well is being creative during middle-of-arc fights, whereas the anime has stuff like "HITTING IT HARDER GOHAN".

But he doesn't up his game like the anime does for the arc's climax, like say vs Fused Zamasu. The anime pulled out a bunch of stops and made it a joy to watch, whereas the manga felt like more of the same.

>>161344085
Murichim was wasted off-screen by Vegeta and then taken down by Freeza. He possibly is a match for Toppo while the latter isn't using power enough to tire himself, meaning Toppo, who displayed concern with concerving stamina, wasn't a lot of strength like in his match with Goku.

If you notice, most characters are trying to concerve energy (aside the Androids, who have a limitless supply). As much as Goku and Vegeta have been using Blue in the tournament, they have only done so in a quick manner, enough only to land a finishing blow or a quick attack and therefore not waste much energy. Same applies to Toppo and possibly it's why Jiren only used one shot in Kale.

>>161343902
>Meanwhile in the anime: Hit is badass, as strong or stronger than Goku, Goku has to pull out new tricks to even have a chance, Hit is evolving too fast, he's a new cool guy Goku has to surpass. He's a guy with a lot of hype behind him that made him come off as cool. The manga shot all that hype for Hit before it could start, because he was potentially a threat to saiyan supremacy.
God you sound like those kids from youtube and no, Hit being as strong as Goku is stupid considering Goku is in a whole new level.

>>161344177
We basically need a big hitter or two from U7 to get knocked out to re-add the drama. Unfortunately they're not ballsy enough to have it be Goku. So I guess that leaves Gohan, Picollo and Vegeta.

>>161343902
>nitpicking the manga
>thinks the animes biggest problems are pacing and animation

2/10 made me reply

>>161344206
your dick

>>161344177
It's beyond saving now. Even if the pride jobbers hadn't lived up to their name this episode, and somehow come out on top, everyone else is so pathetic that it feels like I'm watching filler up until the real arc which will be Goku vs Jiren. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss Zamasu and Black. As BS as they were, they felt like a true antagonist and there was a lot of tension throughout the arc.

>>161344233
>considering Goku is in a whole new level
To what? Other saiyans?
Why can't other universes have their own "in a whole new level"

>>161344177
I have a feeling that it will be u7 with a few of the key players from the other universes left over but then jiren will actually fight and clear out everyone leaving nothing besides Goku and freiza. We haven't seen jiren do anything except teleport behind Goku so his abilities are a mystery.

>>161344077
it isn't all about pure strength, but usefulness. thats why universe 7 has Roshi instead of Gotenks and the Ginyu force had Guldo

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What is this expression trying to convey?

>>161343883
Nah, Hit didn't Kakyoin'd Kunshee

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>>161344274
Th...thanks...?

Why does every episode have someone just casually escaping from imminent wrecking when they just got their ass beat

>magical midget tornado escape
>magical smokebomb escape again Androids who can just detect your energy and know where you're running
>literally just jump away (U6 edition)
>instant transmission to save U2
>Dyspo (despite being too injured to be able to move five feet to save his buddy from flying all the way across the stage, right past him), can still instantly eject himself from where he was sitting, in pain, to who knows fucking where

>>161344059
>all this headcanon

I cant even

>>161344223
You haven't even tried to argue anything, just said off-screen training exempts any critism from SSG being a galaxy buster to weaker than Krillin after a week of off-screen training and not being a galaxy buster in this episode.

>>161344229
Pretty much this.
The manga makes more sense, but it can't hype for shit, and feels just underwhelming in the end.

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>>161344308
>I have the weirdest boner right now

>>161341694
An actually enjoyable DBS episode! glad Hit didn't just job and made a comeback against Dyspo.

>>161344100
Dyspo's ass looks better than Vegetable's though

>>161344177
>Is there even any drama left in this arc?
Universe 7 are going to have to start dropping at some point, and in that moment you'll come back here whining a different issue. Tension will be back once the losses get more personal, once Chama's universe also dies. Arc is going to have to come down to only Goku and one other guy standing in the arena together finishing things.

Whether its Jiren or Freiza is unseen so far.

>>161343546
>having this guy as a husbando

He can't even give a blowjob with those buck teeth of his.

>>161344177
Yeah, for a multiple-universe ending event the stakes are pretty low it seems. People are just showing off and jerking around.

>>161344057
Hit's Time Skip works in 3 ways that have evolved through the series:

1- He actually travels through time. He does so in a fraction of seconds, enough for him to actually disappear in the meantime. He used it against Vegeta even when the latter held him to escape and uses it to land hits the opponent won't be able to predict without thinking ahead. The overall duration lengthens while he improves the ability.

2- Actually stopping time. This method however seems to have heavy limitations. He used it against Goku to land a barrage of punches in him while he stopped Goku's time and possibly used it to save Caulifla. Apparently he can't do that as he pleases or avoids doing so unless absolutely necessary to conserve energy.

3- Creating an alternate dimension with the time he stored from the world. It's as if he displaces time itself and remains in the dimension of skipped time. While in it he can't be attacked, since the body is not in the current dimension, but he can still attack int he real world, which he did against Goku and the blue guy this episode. Possibly he also tries to avoid using that too much, as he only used against Goku when he was actively trying to kill him and only starteed using against Dyspo to try to finish him off

>>161344341
>>161344229
Nothing in the anime is as hype as HAKAI. And everyone with an IQ higher than 60 knew that the Zeno button would come in play at the end and he would magically fix everything. Also this arc is literally the antithesis of hype.

>>161344100
Well, it's not the worst thing in the episode. That would be the copypasted panning shot where Dyspo's mouth is moving but he isn't talking. They're some distance from the camera so I guess they figured nobody would notice, or it was just a sloppy error on their part.

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>>161344358

>>161344358
Your little comics are getting better.

>>161344331
>Why does every episode have someone just casually escaping from imminent wrecking when they just got their ass beat
Because teammates care for each other?

>>161344338
the power he puts out is being countered by another ki user, not to mention there can't be any planet busting or universal destruction from SSG because they're in the void. furthermore, the reason SSG was causing that destruction was because beerus was matching the punches 1 for 1, and nobody in this battle can counter as well, thus less energy is expelled from the punches connecting.

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tfw it's been like 10 episode since mai waifu was in an episode

I'm dying /a/ how do I live

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>>161344358
good stuff

>>161344341
Oh, Not to mention the fact that the manga has the whole hind sight advantage, something normally reserved for the anime
>Shit that doesn't make any sense, got to add reason "X" to fix that

Fans already do a pretty large job of "logic clean up" for the manga. When the manga was ahead of the anime it hardly any diffrent.

>>161344415
Ok Hakai was pretty hype, but that's because it didn't make a lick of sense I'm convinced DB can only be hype in any medium if it throws logic out the window.

>>161344455
That said fuck all about what I said. The only example that involved a 'teammate' saving someone's ass was when the ayylien used Instant Transmission to save the fat teletubby and U2 Chichi.
Everything else was just people pressing the 'instant escape with not contesting' button

>>161344461
get a better waifu

>>161344415
>that the Zeno button would come in play at the end and he would magically fix everything.
That's the opposite of what happened though

>>161344358
That dancing Goku is cleary copied from earlier comics. Can someone make a side-to-side comparison? Also fuck these lazy artists!

>>161344461
Just keep your head up hai.

There's nothing hype about the manga when all their fans watch the anime and know what happens in the end anyway.

>>161344358
OK, that was funny.

>>161344461
no wonder this arc has been so good

>>161344177
The worst thing is that you just know that the likes of Tenshinhan and Piccolo will just be eliminated practically offscreen without ever really doing anything, just for the sake of adding some notion of drama or tention to when it actually comes down to just the top dogs.

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B E S T
O
Y

>>161344229
Agreed. I love how Toyo makes the fights interesting and pulls out some cool strategies (like Vegeta vs Black) but the end of his arcs always feel a bit underwhelming.

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>>161344535
>>161344506
please don't bully this good girl she's been through some hard times be nice

>>161344177
the real arc will start once jiren starts doing shit

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>>161342603

>Why are 7 if the troopers shit? Why is there such a gap from the rest of them and jiren?

I dunno, why is most of the Z Fighters like Yamcha, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Piccolo shit compared to Goku and Vegeta?

Why are most of the Justice League made up weaklings like Hawkman and Green Arrow while Superman is leagues upon leagues stronger then them?

>>161344553
He could fight base Goku at the beginning of the tournament, there's no way he should be knocked in an episode where he gets more focus, let alone by someone like Roshi.

>>161344551
Tien maybe, PIccolos to populare of a character for them to just throw away like that, Most likely he'll get a "dramatic" defeat to rage boost someone.

>>161341694
I want to fuck Gine. I don't care if she's dead.

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*speed o sonic sounds behind you*
psh nothin personnel, kid

>>161344415
>Nothing in the anime is as hype as HAKAI.
Its probably one of the worst moments in DB history for me. Its a god of destruction authority given to them by Zeno, but for the sake of plot convenience in the manga it was called a "Technique" and Goku could replicate it on demand. Its supposed to be a god of destruction thing only.

It at least in the anime made enough sense when Universe 11 destruction god gave some of his destruction energy to a furry so they could use hakai against Freiza, but the manga with Goku being able to use it now on demand is pure absolute shit.

Made even worse by the shills who rationalize it in bullshit ways. Saying that Goku is basically a god of destruction, somehow, so surely it makes sense he can use it.

>>161344358
Your comics are still shit, Caulifag.

>>161343546
He did a good job taking Hit's big, fat cock this episode!

>>161344358
I love these

>>161344628
>god of destruction authority
This is headcannon.

>>161342815

>Toppo said that Dyspo was their weakest member. That would be hype as fuck.

That's a very common trope in shonen manga. It's probably one of the top ten. This isn't 'good' writing, but just a rundown cliche.

>>161344229
This for me. Made a lot fo sense the fights in the manga, all the more due to Blue's restrictions affecting botht the protagonists and the antagonists, but they felt really small fights in the end.

Meanwhile, in the anime we have fight after fight versus the Zamasu and Black duo, then versus Zamasu² and then Vegito fighting him and then finally Trunks creating a Spirit Bomb Sword to finally finish him off.

>>161344522
I miss that anon...

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Reminder that MSSB is a retarded name (it's "Completed SSB", not "mastered") and it's not a power boost from regular SSB, it's just the explosive power that a SSB can use at the start but being permanent instead temporal.

cooldown-SSB << SSG < SSB << explosive-SSB

CSSB only allows you to use the explosive power all time.

>>161344415
Hakai was hype? You gotta be kitten me.

I can't remember the track after Dyspo hits Hit for a third time. Is it new?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brg8P4J4VpA

>>161344628
What makes more sense: a god of destruction acquires that power as authority or a mortal master the power of destruction and then acquires the title for it?

>>161344358
Wait a second....

Is this that same artist that did all that fnaf shit?

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Who will Roshi try to Mafuba? The Caway girl or someone else from U4? What if it's Kale and she lost control again?

>>161344628
Next thing you say namekians can't heal and yadrats can't teleport cause those are supposed to be authorities of Supreme Kais given to them by Zen-Oh

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>>161344672
rip hianon

they are truly missed

>>161344682
Cool headcanon

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>>161344325
dude did yamcha likes dick now...because tha face v

>>161344695
I don't even like fnaf, so no

>>161344682
I call SSB supercyan.
What does this mean for me?

>>161344705
I hope not Caway, anyone else is fine though.

>>161344628
but it's literally goku's thing to steal techniques. he's a fighting genius and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse, makes sense to me that he should be able to steal a GoD's technique

So what will happen to Vegeta and Frieza? There are not really many SSB level fighters right now.

>>161344705
Roshi Mafuba'ing a important fighter would be pretty hype, and at this point mafube track record for success is so bad it would be surprising.

>>161344705
He's gonna Mafuba the 'secret weapon' that the fucking rat GoD has, which is the only thing stopping him from shitting his pants because of all the other fighters

Why are you obsessing over Caway now? You should have claimed her when you had a chance.

>>161344714
I dunno, but that mouth needs a dick.

>>161344753
They will job to Cabba and Frost.

>>161344730
>not SSGSS
>>161344753
Vegeta should get Toppo or a rematch with Hit before jobbing, if Heroes is right then Frieza will be for last.

>>161344591
whats your point

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>>161344774

>>161344753
Vegeta can go fuck himself out of the ring for all I care. Frieza should take out the U6 Saiyans.

>>161344753
Frieza will attain Cooler's final form in order to stay within the theme of canonizing movie villains and will be on par with goku

screencap this

>>161344796
Slides right in.

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>>161344529
Don't know about you, but the Manga is hype for the solely fact that it has the original mangaka working on it while in the Anime everything is full of bad writting, stupid filler, bad animation, plotholes and more

>>161344628
The God authority thing is your headcanon but yes it was shit. People can't use the "GOku steals techniques" thing as excuse. This is a pathetic attempt to justify this. And later there is a line with Beerus saying he can't kill immortals even though he has Hakai which literally erase you from existence, not to mention he is much stronger than Zamasu, this is bullshit.

How does it feel Vegetafags? To know that Goku will be taking out Jiren and Dyspo? Must really burn your asses.

It's incredible that Zeno couldn't see that bunny, I think it's true he is a glass canon, bad in fights but can erase everything.

>>161344745
I wish he'd steal Zenos universe deletion already. I mean he has seen it like 3 times already.

>>161344814
Its Frost who will, you dunce

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I wonder how based Toriyama will fix this shit

>>161343624
Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the multiverse?

>>161344856
There is literally nothing wrong with this. You just want to complain to sound smart, but you're a dumbass.

>>161344831
We are just happy to know that Vegeta is on par with Goku, until Vegeta jobs to the enemy that Goku will have to power up to beat.

>>161344014

It SHOULD be Kale, however, Jiren just let her limp body fall without into Caulifa's hands without sumo kicking it out of bounds.

>>161344745
>goku's thing to steal techniques
Thats more of a dragon ball thing

tien, piccolo, Chiaotzu, buu all forms, trunks, Cell, and probably more.
The thing with hakia is it's a power bestowed be becoming a god of destruction, it would be like learning piccolos reagan ability.

You know what would be a hype character to learn hakai that would make for some serious PLOT?

Buu

>>161344848
in all honesty i forgot he existed

>>161344831
us vegetafags are numb by now. we all gave up hope on him doing anything important ever again. we exist solely off of his surly comments and widow's peak.

>>161344839
He is not a glass canon. He can take hits and has power, but he has no fighting skills. No one can deal with his blast anyway. Grand Priest could probably kill him with a surprise attack though.

>>161344831
Why would they be mad about it? Goku is the main character after all, him getting 99.9% of the credit is something expected.

>>161344831
How do you know that?

>>161344014
Obuni

>>161344745
Exactly

The people who complain about the manga dont know dragonball. The manga is more akin to dragonball than it is to Z, and the dubfags and powerlevelfags cant into it.

But thats ok because nobody likes them anyways

>>161344881
There's a lot of things wrong with "surpassing light" but yeah it's a staple concept in anime so I don't know why someone would complain about it.

Why you would compare to sound and light, especially at this point is beyond me.
For that matter, if characters are faster than sound, how does hearing help them?

>>161344881
>There is literally nothing wrong with this
LMAO

>>161344904
Because they've been bitching endlessly about Vegeta spotlight even though he has enough. They really want that Vegeta taking out the main villain arc to happen even though it never will. They get eternally butthurt whenever he jobs as is the norm. They were pissed about Goku's new form and weren't even satisfied with unlocking Blue at the same time as Goku. No. Vegeta has to get it first.

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>>161344796

Dyspo's ORARARARA might be the worst one yet

>>161344954
their ears are faster than sound too duh

I think the chances of seeing an anime version of SSG Vegeta just went up after this episode.

>>161344831
It feels pretty good as a mangafag too that the animu flat out stole vegetas tech and gave it to goku

Thats a win-win in my book

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>>161343696
What can he even do that's evil now that he's gone to the dark side? If he breaks a rule he gets deleted. You can't really get around this.

The locket, Toppo losing faith in justice, and even Freeza himself called Zeno out on his crazy destruction. But nothing can be done against the two children, it's sad and frustrating.

>>161344100
>>161344361
This.
>that ass
>the thin waist and wide, muscular back
>those jackrabbit thighs
There's no doubt who wore the animation better. Dyspo was built for sex.

>>161344956
Yeah, you are a dumbass trying to sound smart by complaining on the internet. Dyspo did not start out as fast as he was, but gradually, he improved his speed until he surpassed the speed of sound and then improved it more to surpass the speed of light.

>>161343827
as soon as trunks came back in cell saga he noted that the present timeline 17/18 are way more powerful than the ones from his timeline. butterfly wings and all that

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THE TIME FOR HEROICS IS OVER

Can't wait for SSB Gogeta.

>>161344628
>Its a god of destruction authority given to them by Zeno, but for the sake of plot convenience in the manga it was called a "Technique" and Goku could replicate it on demand. Its supposed to be a god of destruction thing only.
1. That's headcanon
2. Beerus states after Vegeta masters SSB that he's strong enough to be a God of Destruction now, at least in another universe. There's no reason either of them can't Hakai now.
>>161344826
>And later there is a line with Beerus saying he can't kill immortals even though he has Hakai which literally erase you from existence, not to mention he is much stronger than Zamasu, this is bullshit.
That's basically just saying that even though Goku using Hakai was cool, it was ultimately futile. Even if Zamasu didn't block it with Mai as a hostage he would have regenerated.

>>161344992
He might be overthinking it but think you're probably overestimating the writer's ability.

Like who hasn't surpassed sound in dragon ball?

>>161344992
Don't you mean Hit you retard?

>>161344745

This. Nobody complained when goku instantly copied roshi's kamehameha when it was this super powerful technique equivalent to the hakai of the time,

Didn't roshi say it took him 50 years to master? And he was the strongest guy on earth (to everyone's knowledge at the time), Goku copied it after seeing it done once on his first try

>>161345008
Wait a minute... youre on to something there with that filename...

Toppo is eggman...
Dyspo is sanic...
Jiren is...?

>>161345045
mo retard. The part I found the most interesting was when Toppo is commenting on how Hit isn't an ordinary warrior and Jiren has this look on his face like he's pissed that there's guys like this in the tournament. Like maybe he thought Goku was gonna be the only strong guy they'd have to worry about and now he's realizing that there's more than just Goku.

>>161344682
Actually there's nothing suggest that what you describe as "SSB" isn't the same as the explosive power when first released. SSG/SSB switching was limited by Vegeta's reflexes, making anyone that could strike or react faster than Vegeta effectively only fighting SSG. It still worked in using the full power of SSB though.

>>161345008
he saw through everything hit did
toppo is going to fuck up hit very hard

>>161345065
a chao

they look like aliens

>>161341694
Reminder that Jiren is fitt. FITT.

>>161345065
KNUCKLES

>>161345026
>That's basically just saying that even though Goku using Hakai was cool, it was ultimately futile. Even if Zamasu didn't block it with Mai as a hostage he would have regenerated.
But that's only for Goku. Beerus shat on SSB Vegeta in the last chapter, Zamasu would be nothing to him. Zeno disintegrated countless Zamasu so why wouldn't Beerus be able to do the same with Hakai? He might be able to even without this considering how big the power gap is.

>>161345065
tails

>>161345052
>equivalent to the hakai of the time

>>161343642
I thought it was explain in RoF that Super Saiyan Blue is just Super Saiyan God's Super Saiyan form?
SSGSS

>>161343629
So Toyotaro won..? I didn't watch the episode yet

>>161344745
>steal
> to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice
it was not stealing

>>161345039
Goku started off weak, what's wrong with everyone earning strength through battle instead of being born as Frieza/Frost/Caulifla prodigies that everyone hates? Mostly Caulifla.

>>161345065

Toppo is eggman
Dyspo is the walrus
Jiren is Paul

>>161342894
this

>>161344100
Better than GT they said

They're based on superheros
Jiren is Superman
Dyspo is flash
Toppo is a fat retard

>>161345080
Jiren just looks pissed all the damn time, it's his fault, he's chuuni incarnate, did you see his finisher style attack thing?

>>161343671
Rabbit bodied Goku except for that one sneak attack he did at the beginning.
He had to turn blue to even tag him and still got floored afterwards.
SSG is still well below Hit and SSB.

is toppo based off the lorax

>Dyspo apparently faster than light
>Angels could see his movements
>Angels able to ignore physics
>Champ couldn't even comprehend what he did, meaning he couldn't see Dyspo's speed
What did they mean by this

>>161345065
Infinite

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>>161344961
You posted looking for a response from Vegetafags and you got the opposite.

>>161345194
It means the angels are more powerful than gods of destruction, which you should have already known.

>>161345026
DBZ isn't a fucking RPG.
You don't fucking have special techniques "Kaioken, Limb regen, Make Dragon balls, delete universes" just by getting to a new level

That's not how any ANY of DB has ever worked on any fucking level.

He should NOT have hakai.
As a matter of fact hakai should not be considered a ki technique but a divine power bestowed upon GoDs by Zeno.
A tiny crumb of his all encompassing ability to unmake all of existence as he wills it.

Any random faggot geting it because they saw it used once or twice is logically fucking retarded on all levels and devalues the very idea of the GoDs on every single level.

I'm not going to go into a GoD handing over hakai as if it were a random ki attack any faggot can use and frieza and goku tanking that shit like it was just some faggots random energy attack.

There is no fucking ki defense against that. There is a god magic defense against that but goku and frieza should be weaker then piccolo when it comes to god ki/magic so they should be basically fucked and turned into ash like that one fucking egg that beerus erased at the beginning of BoG movie.

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>>161344358
You are my new hero

>>161345213
No, it means angels are completely ignoring physics

>>161345148
Its just kinda a pointless thing to mention at this point, like me mentioning I can breath air.

I'm pretty sure a lot of species in dragon ball or born with sonic speeds, without being "prodigies" in comparison to frieza/ect ect

>>161345194
>physics in anime
The Sound is literally faster than light too because it reached dyspo before Hit could move.

>>161342652
>"So he's moving at the speed of sound, which is faster than the speed of light? "

Are Japanese people retarded?

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edgelord quote of the year?

>>161345194
Well the Angels are able to traverse the multiversum. Something the light can't as far as we know. So it's pretty much established that the angels supersede light and other laws of physics.

>>161345194
GoDs are also faster than light, just like several other characters, Dyspo is faster than light and can be 1000 times faster with his speed burst. This si not complicated.

>>161345218
they're training with whis, a angel that trains GoD

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>>161344730
>supercyan
>anime shitty coloring

>>161345242
How the fuck is it pointless? Would you rather the, say "Oh Dyspo is fast"

>>161345273
that art is terrible

>>161344358
How will toeishills ever recover?

>>161345194
>people can hears things perfectly under hindered when moving faster than sound
>not a problem
>people can see when moving faster than light
>a problem

Just turn your brain off bro, and I don't mean to just dragon ball, but pretty much all power creep anime.

>>161345242
Why did you not care when he came and called himself the Sonic Warrior?

>>161345052
The kamehawave is a relatively simple fucking technique compared to everything else.

It's just ki manipulation.

Hakai is erasing someone's fucking existence. That is something WELL beyond a simple yet ingenious ki technique.

And him saying that it can be learned simply from seeing it is the most insane and short sighted thing ever.

It should be a magical god technique.
Something that is so terrible and powerful that it makes all of a GoDs power seem like nothing in comparison to it.

Like even if Goku can equal beerus he still has this terrible power that he has no defense aganist what so ever and it's the biggest reason why no one would dare attempt to the child GoD emperor or even upset him.

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Do you think that if Goku was taken in be a gay that he would have just accepted it like he did with Chichi?

Like if a gay told him to marry him, he would have just done it and fucked him?

>>161345193
With that moustache apparently.

>>161345052
Goku took techs from roshi, tien, and krillin, hes the only one to learn and master the kaioken and genki dama (something king kai himself hadnt done), learned instant transmission from the yardrats (something noone else has picked up on after all these years, teleportation is only known by the kaioshin and the angels)... I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting...

Goku has fighting autism and he's a savant, him figuring out hakai after seeing beerus do it a few times shouldnt be a surprise

>>161344831
I'm going to be the one to take out Dyspo! First we'll go to a fancy restaurant, then a movie, and then I'll princess carry him to his bed and make sweet love to him!

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>goku saves someone that want to KO him

>>161345275

I'd rather them keep up with power scaling and say "Dyspo is billions of times faster than the speed of light"

That would have made more sense and also made dyspo seem impossibly fast.

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>whenever you use an ability
>you make noise at 700 feet per second
>which is apparently super human speeds to people who can destroy planets