Dragonball Super

>>161339136
Dude chill, how many time does this need to be said. Zeno has no fighting abilities, that's why he needs the guards otherwise someone could just pop in front of him and kill him.

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When will Super have actual violence or brutality?

>Roshi in 22nd tourney: GOKU AND TENSHINHAN ARE SO FAST I CANT EVEN SEE!
>Roshi in 23rd tourney: GOKU AND PICCOLO ARE SO FAST I CANT EVEN SEE!
>Roshi watching saiyans and cell games on tv: THEY ARE SO FAST I CANT EVEN SEE!
>Roshi in RoF: holy shi- no, actually i can see something
>Roshi in ToP: I AM HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE BABY

Whatever the plot demands

zeno is a nuclear missile. You cant do shit with a nuclear missile, you cant even rob a bank. Everything you can do is just nuke a city.

Everyone fears zeno because he can nuke your universe at will, but he alone cant fight yamcha.

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>>161339197

>strong enough to destroy multiple universes
>simple light speed is too fast for him

if this doesn't prove power scaling in super is fucked, I don't know what will. Seriously, they were going FTL in saiyan saga, how the fuck is the god of everything not able to follow?

His power level is nearly infinite and they literally just had a fodder villain power creep him

>>161339197
That doesn't make sense because shin and everyone else says he is absolute and he was most certainly alive in the Trunks universe.

Also Zamasu could have just killed him if that were the case.

Didnt these generals get banned?

>It's another 'Jiren and Toppo watch their team get eliminated' episode

I can't wait for this gay arc to end

>>161339286
>they were going FTL in saiyan saga

nice headcanon, this was never stated and you are shitposting

This might be the very first episode of Super I am super unhappy about.
First of all Hit didn’t even need Goku’s help. He was more than capable reading Dyspo’s attacks for a counter strategy so SSG Goku was pointless and unnecessary.
Not only that, there was no explanation for SSG at all. So Goku can just switch in an out at will this whole time, and just decided to use it now? Not when, say, his universe was threatened with erasure by Zamasu?
Not only that but SSG is faster than SSB? How? Super Saiyan is supposed to multiply everything about you, power, speed, etc.. So going super saiyan utilizing god ki is lesser than just using god ki? Goku has a lesser transformation that’s better in just one specific way that doesn’t make sense?
Why didn’t Goku use SSG against Hit then? Goku needed SSBxKaioken to contend with Hit, this guy was better than Hit, and he used a lesser transformation for it?
When did Goku learn to switch in and out of it? Could he always? If so, why hasn’t he busted it out until now, when he arguably had no reason to?
This is the first time I honestly can’t see any reason for this other than merchandising, and that upsets me. This is straight filler shit. Toriyama’s influence is diminishing and that saddens me.

>>161339341
Raditz moved FTL.

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>>161339358
RETARD

>>161339358
SSG is faster than Super Saiyan, not Blue. Whis explicitly stated that.

>>161339136
If I make a car, than I must be as fast as that car, amrite?

>>161339358

they literally say ssb is faster than ssg, that's why he transforms into ssb to counter dyspso and run through the mines.

Were you even paying attention? ssb outclasses ssg in every way.

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>tfw Champa-sama's thread got hakai'd

>>161339386
no he didn't read the manga again you fucking retard

>>161339358
>Toriyama’s influence is diminishing and that saddens me.
Debatable whether it was there even before the Zamasu arc.

>>161339372
Which is still much stronger than every other jobber of the week Goku has raped this tournament, who in turn are the strongest of their entire universes

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HIT WILL JOB THEY SAID
HIT IS TIEN 2.0 THEY SAID
NOTBEERUS IS HARD COUNTER THEY SAID

>>161339433
Is that a vuvuzela?

>>161339400
I like how Beerus didn't even get mad that Goku helped Hit.

I think that given the situation if his brother survives the tournament Beerus would die happy even at the cost of his erasure.

>>161339136
They aren't physically strong. However they have god hax magical powers that make them invincible.

A saibaman is probably stronger then them, but their fucking magic/divine power is so ridiculous that it doesn't fucking matter.

And that's what I hate about DBS.
They had everything they needed to make it so that power is not the determining factor of who would win.
They could ahve put into place all kinds of interesting rules and caveats to make things more fun.

But they went with the most gaudy fucking hair colors and most retarded fighting shit known to man and just slapped a higher number on everyone. Oh I'm sorry, power levels mean nothing.
They just arbitrarily make everyone as strong or weak as the need to sell toys demands.

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>so,, if I step into this spiderman shit it explodes?
>yes, don't step on it
>k I won't, thank you

Holy shit, who writes this garbage?

>>161339358
>When did Goku learn to switch in and out of it? Could he always? If so, why hasn’t he busted it out until now, when he arguably had no reason to?

This is one thing I don't really agree with, he's been practicing all his forms throughout this arc and switching between them much more frequently than in the past, this is the perfect kind of thing for him to learn to do after this.

>>161339482
He'd still be tsundere about it.

another U6 wankfest.
Rename the show to "We wank ourselves to U6" at this point.
Between the cringy lesbian scene, Caulifla not being eliminated after getting oneshotted by Jiren and Hit getting the most ridiculous plot armor ever I don't know what's worse.
I hope Jiren and Toppo fuck up all of U6, all of them, don't leave a single ne for any other universe, those pieces of garbage deserve it after already

>>161339286
>His power level is nearly infinite
Ah there's the problem, you're a power levelfag, like I said, creation and destruction are his abilities, regardless of this, he has no combat prowess. Like how Roshi has this broken sealing power but his actual powerlevel is shit. (Even though super says otherwise)

>>161339293
>Also Zamasu could have just killed him if that were the case.
The fact that he is weak, may not be public knowledge.

>>161339372
how strong was that tentacle monster?

>>161339293
Zamasu probably didn't realize he exists

Shin didn't know either, so I assume this is true

>Zamasu could have just killed him if that were the case

yeah, if he could just walk past the grand priest and his guards without getting erased and/or regular killed maybe

also, how would he even get to zeno's place?

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>fighter 1: I see, so you are super duper fast that's why you escaped my gimmick!
>fighter 2: yes! i can change speed to one hundred billion tissues of a microsecond! I am the fastest of the universe, i mean universes, believe me this time is for real! i mean believe me, i am really the fastest one! the gray dude, our captain, is definitely not faster than me at all nor our GoD, or that angel, or...
>friends of fighter 2: that's our boy!
>friends of fighter 1: oh no! don't tell me our 1000 year old man is gonna looose???

>>161339358

Im not sure at this point if you are capable of reading subtitles. Everything you said is well explained by either beerus or whis.

ssb>ssg. Its just he goes ssg to not be continuosly in blue state due to energy loss

>>161339325
See you in November if that information is actually true.

>Portray U11 as good people
>act like generic villains in their fights
>Jiren and Toppo stand 10 feet away from their team while they get the shit beaten out of them and just watch
>Turbo retard Toppo decides to get serious only after ANOTHER one of his goons gets ringed out and the other barely crawls back
>Jiren probably doesn't even care about them at all

So basically Everyone is going to get ring out but Jiren who BTFO everyone else until it's just u7 vs him

>>161339487
If that spidermidget had been paying attention for the last 5 minutes (or however much time has passed by), he would know every fighter can hit him with the usual energy blast spam

>>161339482
You know as well as I do that nothing in this tournament makes any goddamned fucking sense. Athe mere fact that goku had to help hit instead of hit fighting on his own(poochy the least liked of the top characters in DB right now) against a confirmed motherfucking jobber is just...the writers just throwing the entire world under the fucking bus.

This show can not get any worse.
I am fucking WAITING for the ratings of this trainwreck.
God I need to see how badly it's done.

Is Dyspo a cat like beerus or a rabbit?

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>>161339400

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what does jiren mean by this?

>>161339197
except it doesn't make sense. how has he survived all these years? where the fuck did the guards come from anyway?
is he even actually a god? what if he just has the ability to erase the universes and he put himself up on a throne because he can? he probably obtained the power from a fucking fruit from one piece or something baka
it's truly evidence power level scaling is shit in super like another anon said

>>161339286
Power level is a fairly malleable concept and a high power level doesn't necessarily imply the fastest speed, nor vice versa. Otherwise Dyspo is not the fastest, as Toppo and Jiren are implied to have higher power.

Zeno is strong in the sense that he can literally wipe anyone out with a thought. He doesn't have to be able to fight well or even keep up with movements to do that. That's why it's said by either Beerus or Whis, can't remember which, that he absolutely can't be defeated.

>>161339286
>>161339386
>People still take dub lines/shit translations for fucking gospel

Gotenks took the better part of 30 minutes to circle the globe 8+ times. That's not light speed you fucking mongs, no one in DB up until NOW in Super has gone at such a speed.

>>161339550
ITS NOT FAIR! BURTER WAS SUPPOSE TO BE THE FASTEST!

>>161339464
Silly anon that's vegeta not dys-- oh wait.
I dont have the webem someone help me out

>>161339625
>that guy's head looks like a peepee
>kimochi warui

>>161339247
Dragon Ball was better and we're just going to have to get used to that

>>161339625
Hit might be a potential problem.

>>161339433
Fucking rude. I say we make another one to celebrate the best GOD.

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>>161339136
>angels can follow every movement
>god of everything can't
truly entices one to ponder

>>161339526
Well Dyspo needed help against that monster so.

>>161339613
What are you talking about? Beerus has constantly been getting mad at Goku for helping out other fighters, this is the only case in which Beerus didn't get mad and it's probably cause if Hit gets eliminated then U6 will most likely fall.

>>161339625
He was actually bothered, for once, that a teammate was getting punked and heading towards a ring out

That just goes show how much faith he has in Dysbando, for him to be this bothered by him fucking up when he's watched the rest of his team get shat on without batting an eye

>>161339136
im more concerned about the fact that one of those kids are the future version of himself and some how doesnt know about the tournament at all.

>>161339625
I wonder if there's a pattern. Time to rewatch earlier episodes to find out!

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Backyardigods arc when?

>>161339625
He's either trying REALLY hard to keep his justice boner restrained, or he's really annoyed.

>>161339520
how didn't zeno catch wind of the zamasu problem in the first place? literally all the gods got raped and he didn't hear about it?

>>161339358
Tori has too much influence now if anything. DB was only good because he had editors that called out his shit writing but now Tori is able to do whatever he wants and still get praised.

>>161339731
Because the tournament never happened in the future dude.

>>161339265
roshi finally got that rainbow weed nigga

Super feels like a video game, animations are reused way too fucking often.

Also, is dispo a cat or rabbit?

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Why is he so perfect, /a/?

Utterly dissapointing, at this point I'm curious as to what level of intelligence the writers think we, as the viewers have. How do they expect us to overlook the ssg retcon without any explanation what so ever? There wasn't even any benefit to Goku going ssg. I've been willing to overlook a lot of the inconsistencies up until now in regards to his arc, but it's getting out of hand.

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>>161339731
The tournament is a thing because Goku made it so. Otherwise, the universes were just going to be randomly culled one day. There was no Goku to make a U6-U7 tournament in Trunks' timeline, so there was no tournament to catch Zeno's interest and make him want more, so of course Zeno wouldn't have known shit about it. Doesn't mean all the junk universes weren't on the chopping block anyway.

>>161339520
>creation and destruction are his abilities,
Roshi's "broken sealing powers" is stupid fucking fucking bullshit that doesn't even make any goddamned sense and are apparently just a sub shit tier knock off of 4 eyes from the ginyu force.

Anyway, Zeno is the ultimate GoD. He...she...it has no ability to create anything. No more then any other low level magic embued being with creation abilities.
The one that everyone is sure is the actual creator of things is Zalama and we might even see an actual pantheon after To...
Oh wait...the writers were told to make another retarded goddamned super form that will automagically make goku strong enough to fight the angels and pull some bullshit out of their ass to make goku look like a chessmaster instead of a indefensible sociopathic fucking retard and biggest monster DB has ever seen.

So...get ready for dissapointment nigga.

>>161339768
Never understood why the penguin was dead.

>>161339772
Zeno just plays all day. He gets his 'reports' from the Grand Priest, Grand Priest wants the ningen dead anway so he didn't bother saying anything.

>>161339526

Tentacle monster > dyspo > Zen-oh

it could have potentially destroyed all universes

>>161339247
Toei is trying to go for that Pokemon audience where they can add as little edgy as possible.

>>161339136

episode was fucking good, this is how super supposed to be written

but... asspull ssjgod and lack of explanation, who the hell is approving this shit? their cleaners during breaks?!

>>161339789
A cat, Champa remarks him being the same species. He just looks like a rabbit because A. he's a speedster and speedsters are thinbois, and B. rabbits are a stereotype for fast

>>161339136
>>161339286

God you're fucking stupid. He can still erase the entire universe 11 whenever he feels like it, his ability to follow Dyspo's speed doesn't matter, it doesn't effect that. He doesn't need to be stronger or faster than Dyspo, he can erase his body and soul if he feels like it. Plus, for all you know he's 100% immune to any and all kinds of damage, we have no real idea what Zeno's power is.

Also, I mostly came into this thread to praise this week's episode, it was actually a good one. Goku actually didn't hold back, we got to see a fight between two non-jobbers and we didn't know who would win already, and it was a cool and interesting episode without too much time wasted on pointless filler or unfunny jokes from the crowd outside of Champa's stupid bullshit. I liked it.

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>>161339136
Hello there. I'm Tenshinhan. Some of you may know me as proto-Vegeta. Though I fell out of the spotlight after the Saiyan saga, I had a couple of moments where I did some cool stuff. I saved Mr. Satan and Dende once, that was neat, right? Haha, yeah. Well it looks like there isn't really anything planned for me right now. My uselessness as of late hasn't been pointed out, so that means there will likely be no developments to mitigate that uselessness. Even Krillin got to have a fun little episode true to his character, but I'll probably just get to fire off some Kikohos before getting eliminated unceremoniously. Haha Piccolo and I have quite the burden to bear, not a lot of hype for us I guess. I hope Master Roshi enjoys his episode!

>>161339625
The look of someone getting the idea of purging the team from having weaklings in it.

>>161339807
yes but he created everything and everyone in every single dimension the future version of himself should know every fucking thing.

>>161339804
>no benefit
Stamina.

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how would you feed your champa?

>People being buttblasted because their headcannon about everyone > the speed of light has been turned down
Is the DB fanbase the one with the most headcannon? It seems like whenever you ask a question you get a headcannon answer that everyone seems to have accepted as truth and then when that headcannon is proven wrong the fanbase goes ape shit.

>>161339595
Toppo during the fight "FUCK YEAH JUSTICE"
Toppo after the fight "FUCK JUSTICE"
All in the span of a few minutes.
These guys are some of the worst characters ever written for this series.

>>161339625

i feel like he is silently wavering between the justice boner life that toppo has forced onto him and the waku waku boner that is rumbling beneath

now that toppo has cast his own justice aside, ayylmao is going to be even more confused and might even do literally nothing until we reach the trio of him goku and freeza

>>161339796
I like his voice and his interactions with Beerus and Vados.

>>161339358
Goku has to be on screen upfront in every episode.
No one can ever be stronger then Goku
Goku needs to show off his super forms to sell toys.
They are powering up a confirmed shit tier jobber instead of using the confirmed supposed powerhouses from the other universes because they got rid of them unceremoneously in the last couple of eps to build up the still outright hated u6 Saiyajins.

>>161339796
>>161339807

He's too cute to exist, that's why he will be erased. But thankfully (hopefully) revived.

>>161339519
>Caulifla talking about Hit like she knows him since ever when she only knows him for less than a day

I laughed. And Kale got either exhausted or ko'd like 3 times. The yardrat was already defeated once. Goku got helped a few times because Toei made him mentally challenged to an extreme point.
On another hand Dypso falls, screams for a while, and doesn't lose until his friend helps like 20 seconds later

There are more characters that should already been out, but everyone is playing around and michael bay explosions are happening in the back.

>>161339821
why would GP want the ningens dead? if so, it doesn't make sense why GP doesn't just hakai zeno at this point hismelf

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>>161339136
Every Dragon Ball character ever could beat the shit out of Akira Toriyama himself

Akira Toriyama could still write them out of existence

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>>161339912
>tfw beerus would probably cry when that happens

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>The time for Justice is over
>Time to stop playing the hero

Toppo is WOKE

>>161339772

hmmm... this is...holy fuck, how I missed this, so zamasu was created by grand priest?

>>161339835

>goku enters ssjgod out of ass
>oh hi hitto, this is my new form, I lost it during first arc and I had no clue I still can use it
>what?
>just injected, lol

>>161339851

Tien took down that cell wannabe, remember?

>>161339875
Can you address in this thread posts that do that?

>>161339939
/thread

Man why the fuck are they standing around? Are they trying to conserve their energy to deal with the strong guys?

>>161339595
I want it to be Jiren vs U7. That would be funny, and it would be like classic Dragon Ball with everyone trying to 1v1 him and failing.

>>161339939
Is that a JoJo reference?

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What the fuck did he mean by this

>>161339851
I honestly really hope Tien RIPs the shit out of someone. His Kikoho V.S. Cell was badass, and he stood strong against Nappa in the Saiyan saga too. Tien is based.

>>161339768
The penguin looks like Chill Penguin

>>161339810
Dude it's easy, stop being a powerlevelfag.

>>161339950
Toppo looks kinda retarded and is probably not even strong at all.
Hes too goofy, he'll probably kick out some main character and job soon after that

>>161339526
better question: how many tentacles would Dyspo have taken if he didn't get his ass bailed out by the other pride troopers?

So uh what was the reason that Hit (who is fucking god tier) warned Goku against the web trap thing but Goku just sped through it anyway with no damage?

What was the fucking point

Also why are Jiren and Toppo watching their men get fucking dicked by Mr Donut

>>161339851
Tien will be eliminated when he murders Toppo.

>>161339864

Liberally, but safely. I have to keep my Champa around to cuddle with.

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I really hate the self congratulatory writing in super. It's as if they think they're orchestrating an incredible plot with twists and turns in each episode...
Like they think their fight scenes are complex enough to stop the fight so Goku or Hit or the stupid fucking Rabbit guy from U11 can LITERALLY PAUSE FOR A SECOND and narrate what just happened to US, the audience. As if we don't already know it's just going to be some contrived bullshit or something we already fucking knew.
Fuck super.

>>161339951
it could only be assumed so, because the grand priest should have given zeno a little warning everyone was dead

>>161339939
>YFW Toriyama is actually erasing his characters out of existence.....

YFW you realize Zeno is toriyama, the grand priest is Toyotaro who is pulling all the strings.

>>161340023
What was his power again?

>>161340029
I don't think you have been in many threads but if things arent EXPLICITLY stated in shounen it goes over people's heads

It doesn't matter how simple. Whether it was U6 counterparts or Dypso looking like beerus and champa. You remember how many autists complained they looked nothing alike?

>>161340064
crying

>>161340011

They likely wrote themselves into a corner and had no idea how to make goku win other than transforming into SSB and power leveling through like always.

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>>161339984
pic related

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So I couldn't help but notice, not only did the anime make SSG a usable form that takes less stamina like in the manga, but it also used Super Saiyan God/Blue switching like in the manga. And Toeicucks say the manga isn't canon.

Shitposting aside, I was a little pissed that they took something amazing Vegeta did in the manga and gave it to Goku instead for this tournament.

>>161340064
Close to U6 SS Vegeta but his physical defense was his best feature.

Why are the Pride Troopers such assholes?
I'm starting to legitimately think they're evil, especially with what Toppo said this episode. "Time to stop playing the hero"

>>161339946
He'll definitely be upset. It's been established that they care about each other. (Which is just adorable)

>>161340003
>is probably not even strong at all
He tanked SSB pretty well until Goku went kaioken.17 is now apparently SSB level too, however, so lets say he's at least stronger than the humans and 18.

>>161340064

made of metal that's too heavy to ring out

>>161339875
But this episode confirms that "everyone > speed of light" because Dyspo was fodder.

>Toei finally retconned SSG and SSB to work the same way they do in the manga
>Also retconned Hit's power level.
>No sign of SSBKK so far throughout the tournament and a new transform on the horizon

Well that settles it, Toei is trying to be like the manga now.

El grande padre or Dyspo?

I liked the fight. Those butthurt about SSG should know that Saiyan beyond God is retconned.because it doesn't make sense how Gohan with little training could somehow overcome the sheer difference in power.

>>161340064
being made of metal

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>>161339828
Honestly at this point, im more satisfied with the assumption that Dragonball is basically Bleach now.

At least in the aspect of that you can't genuine tell where the power scale even is anymore and just have to just roll with it. Seeing how Roshi somehow "secret" trained himself to be strong enough to body Tien, Kale fucking everyone up in LSSJ, and now this bullshit with Bugs Beerus Bunny being around Hit's battle power.

There's nothing to be hyped about this tournament because instead of properly developing strategies and using each other's strengths, everyone is just bumped up to being near Goku's SSJB power and literally anything can happen.

>>161339984
Goku stays a good guy till the end...jk he just wants to ring out hit himself

>>161340120
What the fuck are you saying? Are you a jap or a spic using google translate?

>>161340029

another "I can't stop watching this crap" idiot...


btw. dyspo is fucking bullshitter, he should be transferred to the bench after he started falling

>Roshi might die (again) in the next episode

Poor guy

>>161340120
Yea, you right.

>>161339892
It would have made more sense for Jiren to say that like rather than Toppo.

>>161339946
That little gag made me laugh a lot harder than it should have when I first saw the episode.

>>161339651
It's not a malleable concept in DB. I mean DBZ.

It's rock solid and bullet proof.
Power levels means physical strength and or ki output. Period.

Techniques that boost power levels and are just brutal ki attacks are UNBELIEVABLY valuable in the DB universe.

Magic, like what piccolo, and babbidi have is absolutely fucking broken.

In terms of magical power, babidi and majin buu are basically bullshit hax vegeto SSJ4 tier

Piccolo is basically Mystic Gohan tier

Baba is Yamcha tier.

God magic is absolute bullshit that is only kept in check by the laws of the universe and there being fighters/ki manipulators who are powerful enough to overwhelm them.


We have Zeno at the top

Angels next

Shinjin = Demons

GoDs

Lower Kais

Gods of worlds

What the fuck ever the namekians are.


Get it?

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What did she mean by this?

>>161339920
>Caulifla talking about Hit like she knows him since ever when she only knows him for less than a day
Hit is universally famous as the Flawless Hit.

>He's using SSG, it uses a lot less stamina than SSB!
>Goku's transformed in to and used SSB about fucking 10 times now even though arguably SS1 or 2 would be enough for most of these goons

Fucking why though

Just why

>>161339519
This whole TOP is a joke. I know Shonen isn't known for having good writting but this is too much. At this point its best to wait for the manga

>>161339136
No he's not. He's a literal tank. He's unkillable and can kill you in a single hit, but he won't necessarily be able to catch you. Not like it would matter since he can just destroy your entire existence.

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Gowasu will be allright.

Why?

Because he traveled into the future with Zamasu and everything was OK.

Gowasu will be revived.. That's what SHOULD happen, but DBS writers are retarded and probably forgot about this.

>>161339984
Goku got the Vegeta virus of "ONLY I CAN BEAT THAT CHARACTER!", or was it Piccolo's... hm..

>>161340011
Toppo and Jiren are doing the same that Gohan and co did when Vegeta and Goku were wasting energy. Or even Krillin was defeated. Or Tenshinhan got invisible again, because Toei forgot to draw him. Or how Cabba is lost when their teammates are getting their shit on. Or how the Namekians are somewhere. Or every other character are playing hide and seek, while Freeza is just death beaming every rock

>>161340082
The dialogue in the clip below is not excusable.
Stop defending this shit.
>>161339623

>>161340108
Jesus Christ shut the fuck up already with that.

>>161339136
>He created the universes and
That has never been stated, actually.

>>161340168
If he dies fighting, will it count against his opponent, what with the no killing rule? Is there a penalty for a combatant pushing themselves too far and dying?

>>161339923
>why would GP want the ningens dead?
He's a cunt just like Zamasu, look at him he get's happy everytime a universe is destroyed.
>if so, it doesn't make sense why GP doesn't just hakai zeno at this point hismelf
Zeno is more capable of destroying the ningen faster and he knows it, so he's manipulating Zeno for it. Just look back at the begining of the ToP arc.
>Grand Priest says Zeno said always thought they were too many universes so he's planning on destroying them anyway.
>20 years later, universes still exist in Future Trunks timeline. So he just forgot, just like Present Zeno forgot about the ToP until Goku reminded him. So clearly destroying the universes isn't top priority.
>Zeno says he won't destroy the universes when Bergamo asks him for it.
>Immediately after Grand Priest says only if he beats Goku in a match and adds that Zeno says Goku can't hold back even though we can clearly see Zeno not saying anything.

That was the one interesting thing this episode
Now you have to wonder if it was just a lazy writer oversite or an actual clue to the story

but otherwise shit episode as usual, with dumb fights and nothing in the way of story

I couldn't help but notice Jiren's twitch. What is he trying to do? Legit if they give a reason for why Jiren is sitting out I won't be mad, still won't erase why Toppo's doing the same.

>>161339550
Even the GoDs seemed surprised by his speed though. It's possible his speed is actually GoD level.

>>161340134

please no, toyotaro is piece of crap, ssjb x10 kaioken is baddass idea, the same for hit's broken ability in the anime, toyotaro is shitter who can't write, I can accept return of ssjgod but I would like sudden rage boost in ssj blue for that or something logical to not make more plot holes in the anime

>>161339464
>had to be saved by a Goku weaker than what he fought and beat
Hit has gone down in quality.

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>>161340262
At least there was Champa.

>>161339526
He had the best power level of U11

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>>161340232
You still doubt my ability? Let me take on el grande padre.

>>161339858
>he created everything and everyone in every single dimension
There is not a single solitary sentence or thing in all of DBS or the side material that says that Zeno has ever created anything.
Only that he destroys shit.

>>161340134

>Toei finally retconned SSG and SSB to work the same way they do in the manga

Yes for SSG. No for SSB. SSB in the manga get's weaker the more you activate it in a short period of time.

>Also retconned Hit's power level.

They didn't. Dyspo and the plant monster are very strong.

>No sign of SSBKK so far throughout the tournament and a new transform on the horizon

Goku wasting energy on blue is already pathetic. Using kaioken so early would be the dumbest shit.

>>161339319
Shhh.....

>>161339136
What was the point of goku again?
>Get fucking BTFO by Dyspo after the blue charade
Like , what was the fucking point?

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>>161340317
>The ssj white meme

Are you 14 and do you make oc db characters?

>>161340213
Time travel in DB doesn't work like that.

>>161340306
>....
>lol
>rekt
It's time to leave

>>161340277
>Legit if they give a reason for why Jiren is sitting out I won't be mad, still won't erase why Toppo's doing the same.

I'll give you one.

>Jiren:"All the universes are fighting each other, let's jump in-"
>Toppo: "No Jiren! Let's let them all tire out, we're simply fighting for our universes survival. Besides, that hair color changing idiot in the orange suit is doing the work for us by jumping into literally every battle he sees."

>>161339531
I meant in the manga. He flees instead of just instantly killing Zeno and he did recognize him.

>>161340261

honestly, all recycled "I'm zamasu and want ded of all" is less interesting than another evil being like cell or buu

>>161340104
>And Toeicucks say the manga isn't canon
No one says this. Everyone with half a brain is aware that the manga and anime are both derived from the "pure" canon which is whatever Toriyama scribbles down on his napkins, everything else is left open to the writers of the two to fill in. The Super manga and anime are two divergent rivers from the same spring, and whichever fucking one you want to be canon you're intended to consider it so.

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>>161339984
I don't know, but enjoy your (you)

>>161339996
Them fucking up power levels and not having respect for the source material is why Super is hated and the entire DB IP is losing steam very fast.
If they weren't paying Toriyama in hundred thousnad dollar checks and only slightly legal school girls covered from head to toe in the finest colombian snow JUST to say "Yeah I worked on it" then this show would be more hated then fucking GT.
That's a fucking fact.

>>161340306
Why was this deleted?

>>161339526
Goku said it himself. Dyspo has insane ftl speed, but his moves are predictable. So an enemy with multiple limbs is a hard counter for him. Maybe if he had fighting skills other than running real fast at the enemy, he'd be unstoppable.

>>161339358
>Not only that but SSG is faster than SSB?
Oh my god you're retarded

>>161340213
The whole Goku Black arc fucked up the current timeline

>>161340321
>Yes for SSG. No for SSB. SSB in the manga get's weaker the more you activate it in a short period of time.
To be fair, they' also had Goku doing >>161340104 switching from God to Blue and back. I wouldn't be surprised if the anime is slowly being retconned to be more like the manga.

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>>161340199
>don't waste energy they said
>don't waste energy on Blue unless necessary they said

The only characters that should be spamming ki-blasts and wasting energy arent doing that.

And remember when Goku and Vegeta didn't want to tag with anyone and fight alone, but then Goku jumps in everyones fight because he wants a piece of the pie?

>>161340321
Don't reply to Toyofag bait.

>>161339768
You know jokes aside i kinda liked this fan concept it made it seem like beerus actualy had a group of GoD friends when in actual canon he doesn't seem to get along with any of the other gods he only talks to champa because it's his twin

>>161340440
ONLY good thing about this shit fucking series.

>>161340221
see>>161339358

If things aren't spelled out word for word; there is a huge chunk of people who won't understand it.

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>>161340440
for me only, screw you!

>>161340412
I dunno. I think part of Dragonball's problems nowadays come exactly due to being tied to Toriyama outlines. When he was actually writing chapters week by week, he could tweak stuff that wasn't working well, but by using outlines that can't be done, which is why we end up with big mistakes like an arc like this lacking any tension for many episodes.

>>161340440
nurturing Champa into the beautiful perfection he is today

>>161340412

I honestly wonder why bunch of japs couldn't write super much better using toriyama "script" they already had kai as source material to make the arcs more intense and well made

>>161339625
>I don't belong in this weak ass universe

>>161340104
>I was a little pissed that they took something amazing Vegeta did in the manga and gave it to Goku instead for this tournament.
But it was goku who used it first during Champa tournament, are you retard?
>And Toeicucks say the manga isn't canon.
It isn't, did Goku used SSG when he fought Hit? Nope.
Toriyama probably liked how Toyotaro made again SSG relevant so he used that idea for ToP arc

>>161340400
LINK PLEASE

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>>161339984
But what did HE mean by THIS

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Gohan's engine needs a jumpstart.

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>>161339864
I just want to cook him delicious dishes and have him compliment me.

That's all.

>>161340446

honestly, even in Z they were making retarded shit like that, it's goku and vegeta logic

>>161340168
He's going to take down 4 people with him, which is actually pretty dumb. Makes the other universes look really worthless other than Hit and maybe Toppo/Jiren.

>>161340261

only problem with that theory is if Grand Priest hated ningen so much he could easily destroy universes himself considering all the broken as fuck powers angels have been shown to have.

Majin Buu almost wiped out all life in U7 and he was fucking nothing compared to Beerus, who is an ant compared to Grand Priest... I mean if he was truly evil and dedicated he could probably wipe out all life in every universe in an afternoon

>>161340547
If he takes down Botamo it shows that he somehow got above SSJ level.

>>161340535

always confuses me why people consider vegeta & goku as pillars of the intellect excepting fully logical though hood

>>161340513
>He didn't say "He saved Hit's donuts"
Wasted potential

>>161340477
>huge chunk
No. There is one person in this entire thread that didn't understand what happened. He was corrected nine times by nine different people.
This shit is inexcusable. Fuck off.

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>>161340547

That's stupid how U7 is eliminating everyone left and right even though they're the bottom 3rd weakest universe.

>>161339286

His ability isn't tied to any power level, he just has the power to erase. They aren't the same thing.

He's basically a kid with a magic eraser. Except the eraser can clean anything.

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When this is over, the Z-Fighters need to learn how to train the 17 way. 17 obviously knows how to train better than anyone else.

>>161340513
Bacon is breakfast food, people have donuts for breakfast too

Hit runs a diner and Goku literally saved Hit's bacon (and donuts) because if Hit dropped out, the rest of U6 would fall easily and the restaurant, along with all of U6, would be erased

>>161340566
Wait, I meant Mageta.

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LMAO, the plant monster really was SSG tier after all. What the fuck is wrong with Toei

>>161340446
>And remember when Goku and Vegeta didn't want to tag with anyone and fight alone, but then Goku jumps in everyones fight because he wants a piece of the pie?
Goku wanted the Pride Troopers to himself, while Hit wanted to do more shit. It led to them tag-teaming. And by god it was great.

>>161340566
Botamo is out already.

>>161340021
>>161340523
Tell me more anons

Tell me your fantasies. Is he fat enough or would you add more love?

>>161340412
Power levels got fucked up immediately after the saiyan saga, accept it already.

>>161340603
It wouldn't work the same way as long as their potential are good, remember Toriyama said 17 had a lot.

>>161340616
They just don't care.

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>>161340600
What's stupider is how Roshi hasn't been blown off the stage just by being in the mere presence of people millions and millions of times stronger than him.

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>>161339136

that was a good ass episode

>>161340630
I meant Mageta. He was in the next episode preview.

>>161339807
No, it was entirely Goku's fault they're getting erased. Future Zeno didn't care about destroying shit, which means present Zeno wouldn't have done anything either. At least for another couple of decades. He was perfectly content not doing anything about Zamasu until it was too late. Making present Zeno meet Future Zeno is what prompted them to do it. Most likely FZ telling PZ how he destroyed all his universes. GP overheard and told them they should spare a couple. Which was all Goku's fault.

>>161339474
Yes.

>>161340616
>Toei decides the best way to introduce a new character is to show him losing
>This backfires like hell because Toriyama actually wrote him to be strong

If only people who aren't Goku were allowed to be competent, then none of this would have happened

>>161339286
>simple lightspeed
Toppo said Dyspo surpassed the speed of light not that he moved as fast.

>>161340603

>A guy that could kill SSJ1 goku with no effort at all never training once in his life vs a guy who barely won most of his major fights

>>161340668
How low are your standards?

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>>161340645
I'm boring.
I just want rim his ass and jerk him off while eats.

>>161340600

this episode had too many dyspo bara angles

>>161339984
SSG stands for Super Saiyan Gay.

>>161340603
18 trained absolutely nothing and was still able to keep up with Goku.

>>161340680
Only if the universe culling would have happened in the next decade or so.

Beerus literally sleeps in time spans of millions of years, just because Zeno, the creator of all life itself, was planning something doesn't mean it was going to happen in any of the characters' life spans

>>161340734
I'm watching dragon ball super so they're obviously not that high

>>161339136
>or toriyama is the usual retard
The simplest answer is usually the correct one. Don't overthink it OP.

>>161340616
Plant monster is strong though

>>161340705
At this point i think Toriyama is just fucking with Toei.

>>161340556
Maybe Zeno doesn't want or likes it when he leaves or he's worried Zeno finds him out and destroys him. Honestly I don't think it matters not like it would DB's first plothole.

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>>161339136
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

>>161340299
They made Hit too strong, it was the beginning of Blue looking like a weak dickless joke of a power up. Hit could surpassed Super Saiyan Blue with multipliers thanks to the Kaioken. And he did so absently! He wasn't even trying hard. They just have to ignore how strong they made him originally or he'd defeat everyone instantly.

>>161340736
>I just want rim his ass and jerk him off while eats.

Anon that, please tha's my fetish

>>161340535
>start of Z
>tag team of Piccolo and Goku
>more tag teams in the saiyan saga with the humans and in the namek saga
>Android saga starts the trend of "NO! ONLY 1 VS 1 ALLOWED!"

Fuck. I am still waiting for a true tag with Piccolo and Gohan because they are the only ones who can pull a good tag team with chemistry

>>161340556

To be fair this Majin Buu is weaker than to that fat one in the Buu Saga with kid buu inside. Still Kid Buu looks like a god of destruction of some sort, Super Buu's body seems similar to a fit GoD.

>>161340705
>>This backfires like hell because Toriyama actually wrote him to be strong

Oh yeah, so strong he just jobbed to Hit. I really like how all the Pride Troopers are """strong""" guys who just end up jobbing without doing anything cool in this arc. Thanks for the amazing writing, Toriyama!

>>161340645

If I had to pick anything, I'd probably want his arms (and probably his legs) bigger. But that's because Im also a barafag. That being said, the best boy is great as he is.

>>161340394
Except Toriyama has more involvement in one.
Spoiler warning, it's not the one that has a huge fucking team behind it.

>>161340821
>because they are the only ones who can pull a good tag team with chemistry

so when Pico dies for him...?

>>161340810
I called it first.

I also want to french kiss him for a long period of time.

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>>161340261
Nigga.
There is less then nothing anyone in the entire fucking universe except for Zeno(s) can do to him.

Nothing. He doesn't fucking have to manipulate Zeno into destroying the fucking multiverse with this stupid fucking tournament. He could have easily talked him into fucking doing it you silly twat.
And what is goku going to do about it?
Go crying to Zeno?
GP has known Zeno forever apparently. Goku is a particularly interesting insect and nothing more to him.
If GP crushed Goku, Zeno would simply say aw then go back to destroying random worlds for fun.

>>161340873
Big arms and legs(thiss) are the best. Out of shape lifter are a gift.

>>161339804
There was a benefit, saving stamina.
I agree they should have explained it better. Or rather, given it time to sink in. Having people react to Goku still having SSG like when the form returned in the manga would make it better.

>>161340616
It's just a plant monster

Where are the idiots who said the Pride Troopers would redeem themselves this week? Once again they look like jobbers even though we were supposed to think of them as a threat. Someone bring back Black and Zamasu, this arc is garbage.

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>>161340804
Amazing how Hit at the start could tank Kaioken SSB punches but now he gets near defeated by a guy who is just SSG tier

>>161340600
Fucking hell U6 and U7 are far too fucking OP
Hit can rapidly improve up until the point where he could barely handle 10x SSB Kaioken, Goku is surprisingly one of the people with the weakest performances so far, despite being U7's ace. Fucking Kale and Caulifla are pulling SS forms out of their forms left and right, Kale fucking walks through a BLUE kamehameha because apparently LSS gives a power boost of 10 gorillion, and Caulifla is jumping through SS forms like its nobodies business. Gohan can apparently fight on par with SSB Goku, FUCKING "I trained 10 years by fighting poachers" 17 can do the same, AND STILL HAVE ROOM TO HOLD BACK. Then fucking Roshi with his secret magical training that allowed him to BTFO Tien in his own fucking episode.

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>>161340889
Probably wondering how many minutes are left.

goku using hakai soon in the anime

>>161340616
cute bunnies like Dyspo are just weak against cock, especially throbbing tentacle cock.

>>161340299
Were you paying attention? Hit was just mismatched, Dyspo didn't even allow him to use his time skip and then Hit adapted really fast to it (just like it was shown he could do during U6 arc) and fucked him hard. Hit is still cool in my book.

>>161340882
>Piccolo dying and getting someone eliminated

Don't Toei, enough is enough

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>>161340886
ANON STOP

MY DICK

You have great taste but I haven't fapped in hours

SSB is the most pointless transformation in the franchise. SSG would have accomplished the exact same thing.

>>161340859
>Actually spends a fair amount of time fucking Hit up when Hit was the "final boss" of the U6 Tournament arc
>No he's not strong guys haha jobb!!!

I encourage you to stop memespouting and actually use your pea brain

Could you wish for Zeno's erasure on the Super Dragon Balls?

Do we have an update resultas chart yet?

>>161339265
Just to be annoying and pedantic, but televisions definitively can't display shit like battles going over the speed of sound.

>>161339679
Dragon Ball had better adventure
DBZ is better action

>>161340886
God yes.

>>161340903
A gift from the gods.

>>161340927

it's pisses me off when ssjg started being shit to normal characters like wtf... it's on the beerus level and it should be highlighted

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>>161340955
I understand.

But his tongue was made for it.

>>161340358
Super introduced Red, Blue, and Pink. But White?! Wow what a bad oc i bet you're 14 lol! as if a sophisticated show like Super would introduce yet another color-based arbitrary power up LOL whatever kid heh have you thought about this at all i bet you havent

>>161340146
Welcome to Dragon Ball Super where everything is made up and the Power levels don't matter.

That's right, the Power levels are just like Krillin's feelings, they don't matter.

>>161339247
Learn what timeslots are, doofus. DBS will NEVER have brutality.

>>161340914

MOAR BEST BOY

>>161341025
>But White?!
>What is Merged Zamasu

>>161340874
And yet it's Toriyama's word that they're both canon so that's how it goes. The question is why are you so desperate for one to be "more canon" than the other just because you like it more? Are you that autistic that you're not willing to accept a compromise? (Not to imply you have any say in it)

>>161340928
U6 and U7 are strong all-around, they've lost few fighters while U11 is down to their last two

>>161341021
keep teasing me

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>post the latest episode in one picture

>Dyspo jobbed to Hit

It's official: Jiren is the only one out of the new 70 opponents that actually pose a threat to the heroes. Everyone else is fodder.

Compare that to muh gold saints arc in Saint Seiya were any of them were leagues above the heroes.

>>161340299
No one can be as strong as Goku except for the designated punching bag and jobber + Goku has to be in every fucking ep no matter how retarded it is.

What in gods name made you think they weren't going to shit on hit the moment they realized that everyone for one single second thought "Shit is about to get real" when hit and jiren had their stare down.

Exactly. They had hit get his shit slapped by a CONFIRMED SUB SHIT TIER RABBIT JOBBER and had goku using the still hated SSJG form to save his ass for NO LOGICAL REASON.

Why? To build up goku and make hit look weak!!

What's that?

Hype? Show a fight between hit and jiren that will make people want to tune in and give us some inkling of what jiren can do and his powerlevel?
FUCK THAT

Grandma poochy in that shit form that everyone hated needs to be pushed and no one can be better then goku!!!!

This shit awful.

>>161340955
Jesus fuck he's too cute.

>>161341021
I would very much enjoy Champa's tongue.

>>161340980
SSB is the god version of SSJ3

It helps you beat people SSG can't but if you can beat someone in SSG you are better using SSG rather than SSB.

I have no idea why Toei didn't utilize SSG more. Not only does it make way more sense because of the stamina issue but if you have people like Kale tanking SSG or 17 fighting SSG it's more believable as goku/vegeta still have a SSB form that's multiple times stronger

>>161340603
>Cell absorbed 17
>Cell become perfect later after 18
>both were inside his, or not, or yes
>somehow through Toriyama's magic 17 and 18 got saiyan genes and can become stronger by fighting like the saiyans

>>161341073
Needs some red or blue in there

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>>161340821
Don't forget the strongest team attack, anon.

Shouldn't there be no problem allowing the Mafuba? The jar itself isn't a weapon and the Mafuba is a technique so their should be no problem.

>>161340927

I was perfectly fine with hit just being this master assassin with broken magic time powers that let him abuse pressure points to win. That would have actually been a perfect character since he wouldn't have to be that physically powerful to compete with god-tier characters realistically.

Once they revealed he could actually tank God punches and was really equal in power to goku in addition to all his other powers it kind of ruined him for me.

>still no single for the opening song yet
>Kiyoshi Hikawa keeps releasing singles for different versions of the same one song
I feel like I'm the only person that cares about it

>>161339625
>Wait... I can see his package in that tight red suit.

>>161341093

dude... get back to the earth, ssjg is on the gods level...this is completely different

>>161341099
Dr. Gero made it so that the two never lose power once they gain it. Level grinding suits them well.

What a bland episode, Hit improving in battle was the only half-decent part.
They make big deal about Goku being SSG, but he just switches to Blue almost immediately. He'll probably never do it again after this episode.
It was just so... bland of an episode. It ended seemingly so quickly.

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>>161341011
On the bright side, so far all the characters in the manga who are SSG tier have been few and more importantly made sense. Unlike in the Anime where a Jelly copycat is as strong as SSB or even a literal who.

>>161341111
He could just simply use the mafuba to send the enemies out of bounds, couldn't he?

>>161339625
He's pissed that dyspo jobbed and the blue gremlin got eliminated. He's just so aloof that he merely looks annoyed.

Dunno why, I didn't have any faith on any of the pride troopers except toppo (who already proved himself) and jiren (who toppo vouches for).

>>161341061

>U6 and U7 are strong all-around

U6 should not be, they fucking said it before the tournament started.

At least the dog Universe went out first since they technically were the weakest Universe.

>>161341125

still not? japs are shit... or maybe we will get new version soon

Can someone post gohan punching botamo

>>161339625
>What the fuck am I watching?
>I wish I was at home meditating
>My feed hurts

>>161340600
You goddamn idiot. They said average mortal level. You can have a guy with 1 million of mortal level, but if you have a million people with level of 1 your average is 2. Weak civillians reduce your average

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>>161341071
I aint roleplaying with ya.

Just commission some Champa art for us all.

>>161341159

it's a filler and it's copy your stats

>>161341160
It should take the same amount of energy to mafuba someone out of bounds as it does to throw them in a can/pot/rice cooker/bottle

Mafuba has always been about your power relative to theirs

>>161341202
do it

>>161340294
If he's surpassed light, he's faster than GoDs at the very least. Goku vs. Beerus only went as fast as ~c.

>>161340914
This is the least expected thing I could have imagined

>>161341154
Who made a big deal about Goku using SSG? It isn't the episode title. It's not reated as something terribly amazing or important by the characters in the series, besides the quick comment on why he was using it instead of a stronger form. I don't remember last week's preview but I don't think it mentioned SSG either.

The series itself didn't make a big deal out of it, the fanbase did. Because DB fanbase goes ballistic over everything. I can't begin to imagine how many youtube videos there were with people screaming loudly and making "theories" and "in-depth analysis" out of last week's previews alone.

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>>161341214
What's "it"

>>161341233
were you blind
the preview clearly showed ssg

>>161341241
Keep telling me your champa dream and comission something. I could draw something but is weekend

>>161341217
>>161340294
>Dyspo's base speed is around hit's or a little slower
>his accelerated speed is 1000x that
>Hit some how adjusts to it

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the Vuvuzela saved this episode

>>161340484
You do realize...outlines can be changed.
It's not the last will and testament of Toriyama-sama.
It's just a vague outline that we were TOLD he wrote.

They can fucking change things!!!

>>161340489
Because their shitter hacks and the suits want things to occur because they retards honestly think they understand that fanbase.

>>161341003
And super sucks hard in all categories. Need anything more be said?

That's how fights should be animated, fuck I thought it was just going to be another ATATATATATATAT Fest

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>>161341264
Eh, I already fapped today.

>>161339474
>>161339433
>>161340481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCIFXqhLzo

>>161340647
Powerlevels got fucked up when master roshi went swole and blew up frying pan mountain and then later the fucking moon.

That shit sailed a long ass time ago you fake fan.

>>161341278

funny, it reminds me pokemon hoenn route music

>>161341241

It's so cute the way that Vados is seriously trying to make him healthier, and even cuter that even though Champa complains, he still does it. They're adorable.

>>161341099
>when cell regenerated after blowing himself up he also had to regenerate a copy of android 17 using his own DNA, and that is the Android 17 we see today

Android 17 IS cell. The real android 17 died when cell exploded, this is simply a clone

>>161341306
Okay anon. Have a good night

>>161341108
>no volleyball filler with a team of Gotenks, Piccolo and Tenshinhan

Dammit Toei

>>161341111
>no weapons allowed
>that dr.gero of the other universe using the cane

>>161341159
>Unlike in the Anime where a Jelly copycat is as strong as SSB or even a literal who.
That made sense though. What pissed me off was a regular fucking Kai Zamasu trading blows with SSB Goku.

>>161339136
Goku is holding back against Dyspo guys don't worry

Did I just watch a hunter x hunter episode?

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>programs a high framerate replay feature mid-stream in under a second
is there anything this guy can't do

>>161341270
>They can fucking change things!!!
>denying the fucking author
way to shoot yourself in the foot

>>161341212
You wouldn't risk missing or failing to seal the opponent. Remember Roshi didn't defeat King Piccolo because the rice cooker closed during the technique.

>>161341331
>Implying he doesn't have Android 17 DNA in him.

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I'm practising my Moon. So here's some comments from the 2ch thread.

"You did not need Goku for this story"

They've talking about the Red Vs Blue thing a lot.

"Since the manga is more popular, I guess they bringing out the manga version."
"The manga is also pretty dumb."

"Goku was actually pretty good today.
It's like the manga version got imported over."

"Roshi's totally getting knocked out next episode."

"I remember the vuvuzela from the 2010 FIFA World Cup."

"Vegeta hasn't had a success since the ninth battle lol"

"I was bored only having one enemy but now this is more boring than the Zamasu arc."

"Why is he having such a big dilemma? No one want to lose. I guess he's just being overdramatic."

"So he's moving at the speed of sound, which is faster than the speed of light? "
"Hit is faster than the speed of sound but the sounds of the muscles is transmitted to Dyspo earlier lol"
"It's because he's a rabbit"

"I left for five minutes and came back to Olive Oil Face and vuvuzela"

I think they make fun of Champa by calling him "olive oil face"?

"Hit is this week's MVP. Champa gets the Supporting Actor Award. "

"So far it doesn't seem like Freeza was necessary. I guess they're building up to him and Frost making a coup d'état or something?"

"The art seems good for the first time in a while, the movement seemed smooth. Decent quality episode."

"Last thread someone said 'Zen-Oh is omniscient' but he clearly isn't if he can not see the Hit and Dyspo movements. So with that, he's inferior to Vados and Whis."

"I don't think the situation would have changed that much if they had brought Yamcha instead of Freeza."
"Yamcha wouldn't be able to win against Kakunsa"

They are talking about Uub a little and whatever Red/Blue was going on. I'm bad at Lore so it's hard to translate.

>>161340705
Toriyama has absolutely nothing to do with this bullshit and you should really stop throwing the man under the bus to protect the outright amature efforts of the Super writers.

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>>161341351
He's too good for her.

>>161340859
How is losing to hit "jobbing"? He left hit winded, then hit turned on his gary stu abilities.

How can anyone expect anyone who isn't top 3(Goku, Jiren, Hit) to do an ass-pull and get easy wins?

Will Hit have all these abilities in the manga? Episode was 10/10.

>>161341257
And you seem to lack reading comprehension. I said they didn't mention it. The preview narration didn't make a big deal out of the form return.

Showing something isn't making a big deal out of it. It's meant to make the viewer curious, yes, but the way you are talking it sounds like you thought they were hyping up the form's return, which wasn't the case.

>>161341371
do these fucking chodes ever have an argument or shitpost in the least

>>161341371
>"Yamcha wouldn't be able to win against Kakunsa"
Fucking wrecked.
Yamchafags will never recover.

>>161341337
>no volleyball filler with a team of Gotenks, Piccolo and Tenshinhan
There's a lack of Gotenks in general, which pains me since he's one of my favorite characters. His abilities were cool and inventive.

>>161341389
I hope Toyo decides to make Hit as strong as he is in the anime. He's grown on me a lot since he stepped in the ring with Goku, and and I think a lot of other people like him too

Hit may be a grand tier assassin, but there is no way that even with timeskip he could get "Adjusted" to Dyspo's faster then light speed. If even the Gods are surprised, its a big fucking deal.

>>161341444
>Champa playing Volleyball

Next weeks episode with Muten Roshi-sama looks like shit desu. Not even gonna bother live streaming it.

>>161341431
>Do these superior posters ever do the same stupid shit that we inferior posters do?
No.

>>161340505
>But it was goku who used it first during Champa tournament, are you retard?
Goku went from SSG to SSB in the manga tournament, but he wasn't switching back and forth like Vegeta did until this anime episode.
>>161340394
You missed the part where I said I'm shitposting.

>"My rope explodes so you can't get to me when I fly"
>"what are Ki attacks"
Who writes this shit? Super writers are worse than fanfiction tier.

>>161341431
you missed two or three weeks ago. They were talking about koreanpedros

>>161341472
toeishills BTFO