Where are all the good seinen anime?
>>161304984
We can't even talk about the seinen drought
on /a/?
Seinen is first and foremost a manga demographic, not an anime one. Most seinen nowadays are CGDCT so, from what I can tell, youre referring to manime of which tehre are still plenty around. They simply arent as bloody anymore since OVAs basically died.
>>161305454
>manime of which tehre are still plenty around
Like which ones? Nothing comes to mind apart from nuBerserk and One Punch Man, and the Parasyte anime from 2015.
My point is, you don't see spiritual successors to stuff like Hokuto no Ken to counteract all the CGDCT shit.
There aren't that many just like there aren't many shoujo anime.
It's a demographic that mostly reads manga instead of watching anime.
Where are all the good seinfeld anime?
>>161305603
>OPM
>Seinen
Anon... If you want recommendations go ask >>>/wsr/
>>161304967
low income market
>>161305603
>Hokuto no Ken
That was a shounen, so I dont get why you should bring it up when specifically talking about Seinen. It was intended as a kids show. As for Manime, thats basically all the battle shounen shit as well. The thing is that most bloody shows used to be sold as OVAs because they were a bit too much for TV. Since OVAs are dead, theyd have to be aired on TV now, but apparently the target demographic isnt big enough to make the investment worthwhile. So if you wanna know why "seinen manime with blood" isnt common anymore then thats basically it: the financial return on turning these shows into anime is not big enough to warrant an adaptation. You want fights? You watch shounen. Simply as that. I mean, its not like youre alone in this since both mecha and scifi are basically niche genres as well nowadays. The stuff either genre gets is laughable and if Xebec didnt exist then the genres would quite frankly be dead at this point.
>>161305703
Its classified as such so it doesnt seem to make a lot of sense for you to simply dismiss that. I dont see why it is either, but that doesnt change the fact that it is.
>>161305141
>>161305603
There is no drought. If berserk and OPM are the only things you know you obviously haven't bothered to look
>>161304967
Anime is for mainly for children and man-children so why would there be adaptation of seinen manga of any sub-genre other than cute girls doing cute things.
>>161304967
A lot of mecha shows are denoted as shounen whilst actually being more complex than your average DEEPfag seinen schlock. Take Zeta Gundam, for example. Also, shounen vs seinen isn't a great way of looking at things. ffs, K-On and Umaro are seinen because they appeal to hikis.
>seinen is for adult males so obviously it means more blood and violence and philosophy
Oh my sweet summer child.
>>161305939
>why would there be any adaptation of seinen manga outside of these seinen manga
Your reasoning is completely fucking retarded. At least try to form a proper argument.
>>161305981
When the hell has Zeta ever been classified as shounen? Where are you pulling this from? AniDB has like two dozen tags and not even they classify it as such.
>K-On
Id claim that K-On, as well as shows such as non non biyori dont really appeal to kids. Especially the latter.
>>161305703
>>161305837
I get a vastly different feel watching OPM and Hokuto no Ken than watching YuGiOh or Beyblade, that's enough for me to warrant classifying them as seinen.
>>161305877
Ok then, so how many brand new proper seinen IPs have launched in 2017? The stuff that would make you say "this is the new Berserk/Hellsing/Parasyte"?
>>161306048
Then why did they broadcast K-On on Disney Channel? Checkmate.
>>161306112
>that's enough for me to warrant classifying them as seinen.
What sort of logic is that? You cant just define genre/demographic association yourself genius. All I get from this is that youre insecure about watching shounen past a certain age, which, to be completely honest, is utterly pathetic. If youre 60 and like shounen then who the fuck cares? Stop trying so desperately to appear mature.
>>161306195
For the same reason all the soft porn kids shows air on Disney channel. Checkmate'd.
>>161306014
You aren't above any of those, especially when you watch fetishized cuteness
>>161306253
Parasyte makes me feel a certain way. It's more "grown up".
Dragonball OG makes me feel a different way. It's more happy go lucky and optimistic.
I enjoy both of the above.
I have no problem watching shounen if it's good.
I have a problem when there are no new good seinens to watch.
Stop projecting so hard anon-kun.
>>161306267
I was poking fun at how newfags project American culture onto Japanese cartoons.
There's a reason why shit like Kamen Rider and TTGL aired during children's blocks. Japanese adults simply don't care about action as much as younger boys.
This is one of the best seinen manga ever.
Prove me wrong.You can't
>>161306426
Your subjective interpretation of what is and isnt "mature" will get you nowhere. I can as well just claim that any CGDCT show is more mature and "grown up" than Parasyte, what are you gonna do then? Besides, there just was a Berserk season in Spring, I completely forgot to point that out until now. Seinen as a demographic is CGDCT because they sell best, anything else is as dead as Mecha, Space Operas and anything else related to Space. The genre dont appeal to a big enough market to guarantee a return on investment. Thats all there is too it. Too risky, not high enough profit.
>>161306547
Only if you're a closet homo
Hanamaru kindergarten is a swinen anime. Fuck off retard OP
Manime are aimed to young boya. All manime are shonen.
>>161306565
>Your subjective interpretation of what is and isnt "mature" will get you nowhere
That's my personal sensibility and it allows me to watch things that I like and avoid things I don't like
>I can as well just claim that any CGDCT show is more mature and "grown up"
Sure you can, that's your opinion, which I do not share.
>The genre dont appeal to a big enough market to guarantee a return on investment
That seems to be the case, and bravo for having finally reached my original question, WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE SORT OF SHOWS SO UNPOPULAR NOWADAYS I DON'T GET IT
>>161305141
what are you talking about? you don't even have to lurk just google.
>>161306112
>P-please spoonfeed me /a/, I only know how to find anime and manga from mojo to 10 videos
>>161305141
There is no drought. We get kirara adaptations almost every season.
>>161306727
>hurr durr gay xD
Go watch your moeshit, faggot
>>161306785
>and bravo for having finally reached my original question
I literally pointed this out here >>161305837 you fucking mongrel. You simply decided to ignore it and were too busy calling fucking Hokuto no Ken a mature show.
>WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE SORT OF SHOWS SO UNPOPULAR NOWADAYS I DON'T GET IT
a) they were never popular on TV to begin with, they were OVAs
b) because anime has a way worse reputation in Japan today than it did 20 years ago
c) because theres less salvageable source material available, space operas were adapted from novels, not light novels for example. the industry shifted towards other genres which means less and less mecha/space, more romcom/isekai/harem
>it has blood and violence therefor it must be for adults
This is a pretty narrow and tarded notion that plagues the anime community.
For example Baccano! it's pretty fucking violent but it also deals with complicated themes your average ten year old wouldn't even begin to grasp but you would be hard pressed to state it's for adults when you have characters like Miria and Isaac that are like straight out of Scooby Doo.
>>161305703
>OPM
>not seinen
So what exactly is the difference between a shounen and a seinen?
Like, for example why are fist of the north star and jojo considered shounens when they're pretty much as violent as berserk, which is considered a seinen
>>161307518
The demographic they target (the magazine they are published in). Yes, thats basically the only difference.
>>161307633
Which is pretty fucking retarded in itself
>>161304967
Watch Onihei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWjqvLEoXWg
>>161307881
>Jojo and Hnk are seine
>>161307748
Why? Shounen and Seinen have never been genres but people treat them that way for some reason.
>>161307518
And even seinen jojo is more of a battle manga than One Piece.
>>161307748
Whats retarded is that people actually care so much. If youre old and like shounen you shouldnt be trying to desperately claim that it isnt one but instead accept that the fact that you like stuff that is written for a younger audience. No shame in that, its just false pride. I mean, you dont have issues watching Disney movies either now do you? Thats the actual problem if you ask me. Its all those 16-22 year olds who are so desperately trying to appear mature and grown up that they dont even realize how much their behavior shows that they arent either of those.
You faggots want good seinen? Here:
>Mushi-shi
>Monster
>Planetes
>Cowboy Bebop
>Great Teacher Onizuka
>Trigun
>Chobits
>Black Lagoon
>Samurai Champloo
>Ergo Proxy
>Psycho-Pass
>Shigurui
>Rurouni Kenshin (this is a weird one, first few episodes feel shonen then it gets serious really fast)
>>161308088
A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children's story in the slightest.
- C. S. Lewis
>>161308117
>anime original
>seinen
>>161304967
Shoukoku no Altair
>>161304967
Armored Trooper VOTOMS. Old people have less time to watch anime you know because jobs, family, and other hobbies. This is why Seinen is a smaller market.
>>161308117
>>161308146
Now that I've actually read the list a few of those are legitimately shounen.
I can't tell if its an elaborate bait or just retardation. Well done.
>>161308202
>Old people have less time to watch anime
This is one of the biggest copout arguments in existence. If you watch 30 shows a week that bottles down to like 10-12 hours. Yes, you will have that much time for a hobby no matter how old you are. If we assume 2-5 shows then its 1-2 hours. So no, the shows arent less common because "people dont have time".
>>161308088
A lot of people like some shounen manga/anime in their childhood and teens. It's mostly a phase and they grow out of it. The ones who get stuck in weeb shit later on are the manchildren to which the moeshit caters. There's really no excuse to watch nip cartoons after college.
>>161308310
Good to know. I started getting into anime with 27.
>>161306112
>I get a vastly different feel watching OPM and Hokuto no Ken than watching YuGiOh or Beyblade, that's enough for me to warrant classifying them as seinen.
You don't get to classify series as shounen or seinen based on your "feel". That's the job of manga magazines and their advertisers.
visual novels and manga have some seinen
but anon, it's time TO READ BOOKS
>>161304967
They will never be animatedjust read the fucking manga
>>161304967
Dorohedoro
>>161304967
Is Seinen just Shounen for "grownups"?
Bastard is the best one, where the fuck is hagiwara?
>>161311952
Shonen is targeted for younger audiences, so Seinen essentially removes the usual limits that Shonen authors would have, things like casual nudity, really fucked up gore, that kind of stuff.at least thats what i think its for