10-bit/8-bit shit instead of just x265

>3rd worlders

>>161268908
>still thinks some outdated geopolitical terms apply in 2017
Okay oldtimer. I'm in Western Europe and I don't like unnecessarily upgrading perfectly-working 2012 hardware just because some edgy shit wants a snowflake decoding technique.

>>161268847
what doesn't run 10 bit?

>>161268847
Even my phone has h/w decode for 10bit h265, get on with the times. The only odd-one left out is 10bit h264 since there's hardly any h/w support for it considering it was late addition to the standard.

>>161268964
>Wester Europe
>not 3rd world

>>161268847
>it either defaults to software
And what's the issue with that, exactly?

>>161269223
>thinks 1st/2nd/3rd world is about how many black people there are
You need to learn history, oldtimer, seeing as you lived it. The cold war ended in 1991 btw.

>>161269164
Plenty of GPUs pre-2013. The idea that we should upgrade good hardware to watch video is absurd. Video *games* would make sense at least.

>>161269189
What phone? Afaik, only recent gens have 10-bit.

Fuck off Diaz

>>161269425
>thinks the relevant definition of 3rd world has to do with cold-war alliances
さすが、ばかくん

>>161269318
You're meant to use hardware decoding when possible, defaulting back to software adds unnecessary load to the CPU, the whole point of using a GPU is to offload work from the CPU, you do know how hardware architecture works right?

I will not rest until MKV is dead.
What a shitty fucking format.

>>161269563
>container format
fixed
>>161269528
>relevant
>implying you're at all relevant

>>161269588
>>implying you're at all relevant
difficult when your terrorism hogs all the headlines

>>161269535
Do you? Hwdec only matters in decompressing the streams from the files, and by now the gain in term of load is actually really risible for most of the formats.
I actually have hwdec off all the time, because of its limitations and because some of the APIs tend to fuck with the images in some way or another.

>>161269718
>only matters in decompressing the streams from the files
That's exactly what has a high cost though. You're saying it like it's not what is hitting the CPU the hardest.

>>161269614
I don't even know what you're talking about any more, /pol/ but please go back and stay go.

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>>161269817
>no reading comprehension
?

>>161269761
Only relatively speaking, it used to matter in past but now it's really negligible.
Even my old 2010 laptop with a first gen, dual core, Intel Core CPU is able to decode 10bit, 1080p files without too much of a strain.

>>161268847
>have file sizes increased when the whole point of x265(h265) was to reduce the file size
You are stupid.
File sizes have increased with quality (and with encoder laziness). Have you ever compared a modern 300 MB encode with a 30 MB encode from pre 2000?
There is a notable difference.

>>161269898
>facebook

>>161270023
no u
also you're wrong, modern-day encoders kick the literal fuck out of pre-2000 shit. I dont even know how you can say such shit but... oh wait... /a/.

>>161270085
Did you just ignore the point being made by pretending that a side remark was an actual argument?

Filesizes are inevitably up because you should also be keeping 1080p instead of 720p for just about every show. 720p is a downscale nowadays.

>>161270123
your argument seemed to be that encoding has got worse over time, which is total bullshit

>>161270710
>your argument seemed to be
No, it didn't, unless you really were stupid.

I don't care about file size, I delete my shit when I finish watching it. Even if you're a data hoarding autist drives have gotten so cheap now file size doesn't matter.

>>161269223
Let me guess, youre American. 60% white people my friend, going down on a daily basis.

>>161271405
not american
even if i was, wouldn't change the sad state of western europe

>>161268847
>don't do 10-bit in hardware, it either defaults to software or just runs very badly
get out of this board.
what doesn't run 10 bit? a toaster?
even my fucking smartphone runs 10 bit.

>>161268847
Do they even put out 8 bit releases anymore, aside from Deadfish-type encodes?

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>>161268847
The fansub community has always placed itself on the bleeding edge of technologies. Personally, I think the only reason for this is a deliberate attempt at keeping casuals out by demanding ever-increasing commitments to latest-gen hardware and making most releases nigh-unplayable on anything other than x86-based platforms and in relatively obscure software.

>>161270203
Can someone provide a definitive answer on this one? There's been arguments and memes about 720 vs 1080 for years.

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My thinkpad can't handle x265 10bit/x265 1080p
I'm getting really scared.

>>161276915
>watching anime on a laptop

why would anyone do this

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>>161277279
I watch anime on top of my bed.
It is the comfiest place to watch anime, if you have laptop.

>>161276381
most anime are produced between 800p and 1000p, but there are still a lot of 720 shows so yes the 1080p is worth it if its a good encode for a higher res anime

check anibin for resolutions of specific shows

>>161274671
Or more likely, people into anime are sort of nerdy and bring other hobbies into their anime hobby. Hell, /g/ was practically an anime board for years before normalfags finally took over.

>before normalfags finally took over
You said it like it was a good thing
Every time I go there I get psychologically harassed

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>>161268847
Because Daiz demands ever larger orifice diameters from you.

>>161268847
> devices that don't do 10-bit in hardware
> Why the fuck should anyone need to use specialist hardware for watching anime
>The number of people who lose out because of this is far more than the people who have the hardware to watch the 10-bit shit.
What the hell? Are you watching anime on your game console or something?

>>161277544
Didn't know about anibin, thanks. It's a nice resource, but a bit hard to navigate since I have to google translate the page.

>>161269528
No definition of 3rd world includes Western European countries.

>>161272889
Nobody has 10 bit panels, so that anon is right. It has nothing to do with toasters.

>>161279636
He obviously was talking about having the CPU and GPU power to play 10 bit encodes, this has nothing to do with the panel. There are benefits to 10 bit regardless of the color depth of your display.

>>161277932
There's always that too. It's a common critique of the open source software community that hobbyist developers build the software *they* want and not what's best for garden-variety end users.

The warez scene has historically tried to be *very* conservative with their standards for precisely this reason, but the fansub community has never been any way cohesive. Hell, just trying to extract basic metadata from file names is painful.

Obviously the best should be used. If you can't use the best then upgrade. Banding and artifacts still exist so our battle is not yet over.

>>161280817
The benefits are largely irrelevant because all it means is truer to source with more data, which is worthless because we are all using lower fidelity panels and will be until HDR gets popular in monitors.

>>161282197
>truer to source with more data
You mean less data

>>161268847
It's all Daiz's fault.

>>161282367
No I don't.

>>161277544
>spoonfeeding literal newfags.

>>161282587
Daiz has been kill for a while. He hasn't posted in a long time.

>>161282793
Then you don't know what you're talking about. 10 bit encoding is more efficient than 8 bit, a 10 bit encode with the same quality as 8 bit will be smaller, even from an 8 bit source.

>>161276381
Higher res encodes generally preserve data better anyway so you should always keep them unless you have a native res raw.

>>161268847
>download 10bit crap
>complain
10 bit is a meme. don't waste your hard drive space on that

>>161282849
He got bored in general and went to a journey to master his actual shitposting and encoding techniques in some mountain with part of his cult.

>>161283003
Everything is a meme now, even you anon.

>>161279608
the one that relies on quality of life and proportion of terrorists per capita does

>>161283003
Yeah, it's so much of a meme that it's literally going mainstream in all new video formats.

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>>161282849
>>161283107
Speak of the devil...
>>161283378
And he shall appear!

>>161283378
キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━ッ!!

>>161282823
while i hate spponfeeding anime titles and stuff like that, decreasing the amount of muh 720p faggots is a noble cause

>>161278701
Just get the Japanese title of the show you want to look up and put it in the search bar.

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>>161282849
Daiz was just here when nyaa went down to shill his nazi site.

Will we ever fix banding and artifacts? Do we seriously have to use MADVR?