>He pretend to like this show because he thinks it makes him

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>he posts stale bait on /a/ in 2017

You don't seem to understand.

>>161258544
A shame, you seemed an honest man.

I found it interesting especially while under the influence but I wouldn't rewatch. It was more art than entertainment.

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>>161258152
>watching anime to appear anything
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>161258152
I like it since Lain is cute and the atmosphere is neat.

>>161258152
I think most fans of the series genuinely enjoyed it and like the atmosphere and interesting storytelling. People who try to show off with the anime they watch don't see Lain as something very impressive, so I don't think they're really that much of a factor.

I love Lain because she is real.
>>161259868
What would showoffs brag about?

Reminder that Lain IS the eight layer on the internet

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>>161258152
>doesn't seem to understand
>"everyone is just pretending to like it"

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>>161258214
>>161258544
>>161259664
>>161259725
>>161260597
>>161261439

>>161261555
>Not loving Lain.

>>161258544
>tfw I never understood
I'll probably get it next time around.

>>161261555
>starter packs
>>>/tv/

>>161258152
I like it because I like cute girls and I like the dark 90s atmosphere.

>>161262896
ergo proxy is trash

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>OP is just baiting because he just wanted an excuse to post lain
Not even mad.

>>161263215
>mal

>>161261555
Those are all excellent shows though, except ergo proxy.

I have never seen the show but I really love the OP

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>>161263559
It'll take you about 6 hours to watch the entire show dude. Get on that.

>>161263371
>lol

>>161258152
I don't really know what to think of the show but I do kind of like the atmosphere. Reminds me of Eraserhead in a way. Really fucking fucking weird.

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>>161258152
Okay /a/ so I just watch this so first first time so but nobody would to tell me that THIS CANICATURE is type to such AUTICITICISM.
It's astound me that anyoney would to tell me otherwise, when though armosphere and messique were of the quality, the rest of overcast by the draining flaw in the STORY: the asectisism of the main Chanicaret: Senial elegy Lain's lain.
Tell me, though i have in the past menuted the anisceral that this Lain, the serial experiment's Lain tends to portray, it is as of yet not anticherated as to the identity of this caricature?
I mean in every encode (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,13) she Shows not for exception of obsession with childish things like computer and a lack of social funct.
Would you deny me my conclutions which the world has given me right?

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>>161262896
>my face when when
>no image

>>161263502
and Tatami Galaxy is an alright show which is overrated to hell
Ping Pong is the best Yuasa

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>>161261555
>implying there's anything wrong with Lain, Kaiba or GiTS

>>161261555
People happen to like these shows because they're good. Stop posting your stupid meme.

>>161264366
half of them are shit

>>161258152
Trash show for pretentious autists

>>161261555
Nice trips

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>>161258152
I could say the same thing about pic related and it would apply to most of /a/.

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>>161266600
but I actually like that show and I know beyond any trace of a doubt I'm dumber than a bag of hammers

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>>161258152

>>161267517
>xkcd
Fuck off.

>>161267882
Dude, I was making fun of OP because he has the same shitty attitude, chill out.

>>161258152
I only watched this show for lain pajama

>>161261555
i actually agree with everything but haibane renmei. why the fuck is it there?

>>161268149
I have some bad news for you.

>>161268174
go ahead

I don't think anyone that watches anime is under the illusion that they are intelligent (not for long anyway)

Intelligent people talk about ideas, philosophy. Anime is escapism. I love anime for that reason, because after a day of hard decisions in work I get to release my stress and anxieties in perfect worlds full of fun and colour

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>>161261555
I enjoyed most of these FUCK Eva but I am neither pretentious nor a weeb.

I L O V E L A I N

>>161258152
>He can't fathom people liking something he doesn't like so he shitposts on /a/ to alleviate his insecurities

I only watched this show because aesthetics and gloomy atmosphere go well together.

Also because I'd raep Lain.

>>161268284
>I only watched this show because aesthetics and gloomy atmosphere go well together.
That's the number one reason for like DEEPfag anime.

>>161268284
typical serial excrements lain fan

>>161258152
I think it's one of those anime that you don't get a fucking clue what's going on until the very last episode which I wasn't a fan of so didn't finish it.

>>161268194
you need a hero

>>161268194
You are a pretentious weeb.

>>161261555
most of those shows are legitimately good, what's your point? I won't stop liking them just because you think it's pretentious

>>161261555
>I didn't get it so it must be pretentious. GTFO!

>>161261555
>Welcome to the NHK
>pretentious

>>161258152
My favorite is the opposite
>He pretend to hate this show because he thinks it makes him appear intelligent

>>161268708
this, the worst part is that most of the time they haven't even watched it

>>161258152
>he watched this show even though he knew he was too stupid to get it
>he blames others for his own inadequacy
>>161261555
>moeshit

>>161264321
>and Tatami Galaxy is an alright show which is overrated to hell
I think you have to be a certain age to really appreciate it, probably 30+ is minimum

>>161268849
how do you get that show? elaborate, and no "hurrdurr you have to get it urself, and im not sayin that cuz theres no idea behind lain mmkay??" please.

Lain is too deep for me to truly understand it, but it's still one of my favourite anime and I like it a lot. You don't need to understand all the messages to enjoy it.

>>161268928
>mmkay??
>>>/tv/

>>161268994
>>>/trash/ and don't forget to take lain there too

>>161268540
Reminds me of that guy on /v/ calling MGS pretentious because he didn't understand the story

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>>161268149
Because it has clear signs of depth with its abstract symbolism, they never reveal the mysteries and they use smart sounding words like "sin" and "salvation".

Almost as if the show deals with what having faith truly means and offers a spiritual journey towars finding peace in the unknowable so revealing those same mysteries would destroy everything the show tries to accomplish thematically. Haibane has been out for almost 15 years now and people still can't seem to understand something that simple even though it's very obvious.

>>161261555
Haibane is trash desu

>>161269513
Haibane is great desu

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>>161268746
But I have watched it

>>161261555
And (YOU) don't seem to understand.

>>161269595
The potential cinematic and tonal excellence is drowned out by the awful theme in the form of a hackneyed 'moral of the story'

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>>161269217
Don't worry, there's a /v/ chart too.

>>161269767
Anime fans shouldn't be allowed to use such large words.

>>161269787
>donkey kong
>pretentious
?

>>161269839
It would have been better if he'd used Tropical Freeze because it was on a console no one bought.

>>161269787
where's fallout 2?

>>161261555
>Guaranteedreplies.png
(You) must be the Master Baiter

>>161258152
P R E S E N T D A Y!

>>161269787
>no morrowind or gothic

These threads and Miyazaki-posting used to be my favorite on /a/

I am a semi-noob.I have watched like 20 anime shows.I haven't been able to watch anime in last 2 years due to pressure from uni.So recommend some good anime to watch.

you 20 anime faggot
>>>/wsr/
Boku no fuck off
>noob
the word is newfag

>>161269767
You need to be a bit more specific. Are you talking about the show's treatment of suicide? Or the "be good to others" in order to create some kind of symbiosis?

Because even in that regard Haibane is far from offering a "hackneyed 'moral of the story'".

>>161270005
Shin Sekai no Yori

>>161270064
Isn't that the one where the bad guys win?

>>161258152
I'm not even sure if I liked it or not.

>>161270094
Not sure if you're trolling but there weren't really any bad guys. They just had to live with the only available solution for espers and ordinary humans to coexist after the events of the show. It's pretty good.

>>161270058
I thought the suicide analogy was clumsy and the redemption moral detracted form what made the first half good which was the exploration of setting and character without the veil of social commentary. It let the characters breath more and let the viewer acclimatise to them not because of this full frontal emotional appeal but simply because they were part of the main characters personal journey of self discovery.
Fuck the second half of haibane

>>161258152
No, I like it because I like the computer history shit and how it predicted the internet and its social impact today.
Also, Lain a cute.

>>161269787
>implying Mother 3, Majora Mask, Castlevania and Silent Hill 2 are not masterpieces even today

>>161263753
lol.

>>161270385
The social commentary isn't even prevalent, it's the characters' spiritual journey to redemption and in a way, self-actualization the show works on enhancing more than anything else. Even the "be good to others" thing is a tenet of their own personal revelations, that stems from something individual to them, it has nothing to do with societal implications.

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>>161261555
>haibane renmei
????

>>161263502
this

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>>161268264
>doesn't like eva
>not pretentious
uh huh

>>161270385
So what you're saying is that you disliked the veil of "social commentary" but also disliked the two main characters' personal and self-reflective journey towards finding redemption, it almost sounds like you're contradicting yourself here. The exploration always comes from the characters and what's happening to them and their relationship, they never take a back seat, that's why I have a hard time understanding the whole "veil of social commentary" thing you spouted.

And not noticing that the first half is basically a huge set-up for the second half is kind of hilarious too. I still fail to see how putting the themes at the forefont with a full emotional appeal makes the show bad all of a sudden, and the unassuming literal exploration of the setting is as relevant as the main characters' inner struggles when it comes to their personal journey of self-discovery.

>>161263502
Digibro?

>>161271986
Let me put it to you this way. The first half is about the main character coming to terms with what happened to her and discovering herself. There is no unneeded off-screen source of melodrama. The suicide takes away from her character massively not inherently because of the suicide but more so how it hijacks and overwhelms the rest of her exploration and the rest of the narrative focus. It goes from being an amnesiacs journey of self discovering in a strange and exotic world to a little girl and a cake holding each other and trying to convince the other to forgive themselves.
I didn't come into haibane expecting or wanting a character study on suicide survivor guilt and, for half of it at least, I wasn't given that. Instead there was an enchanting show with an enthralling setting and comely characters that gets shit on by the author's desire to give it more 'depth' and 'meaning' than it needed and ultimately cheapening any statements or artistry the series had began to put forward

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>>161268868
>probably 30+ is minimum
yeah probably because at that age you realize that you are a total fuckin loser

>>161272667
Total fucking loser here. I knew from like 20. Tatami is okay. Not great, but not bad by any means. Its following is understandable in my eyes

>>161272308
>The first half is about the main character coming to terms with what happened to her and discovering herself

So is the 2nd half? Even more so.

>There is no unneeded off-screen source of melodrama.

It's only "melodrama" if you don't understand this "unneeded off-screen source of melodrama" and how it's being indirectly presented.

>The suicide takes away from her character massively

It's actually the total opposite, the suicide gives a lot to the character than just being a "happy-go-lucky" blank slate.

>not inherently because of the suicide but more so how it hijacks and overwhelms the rest of her exploration and the rest of the narrative focus

The exploration just shifts in terms of focus and tone, but it's still here. I fail to see how that's a legitimate criticism.

>I didn't come into haibane expecting or wanting a character study on suicide survivor guilt and, for half of it at least, I wasn't given that

Rewatch the first scene of the show? You were just fooled by the unassuming nature of the show early on.

>Instead there was an enchanting show with an enthralling setting and comely characters that gets shit on by the author's desire to give it more 'depth' and 'meaning' than it needed and ultimately cheapening any statements or artistry the series had began to put forward

Ooooh, I get it now. You just wanted cute girls discovering little mysteries while doing cute things? And you strongly disliked the fact that the show dealt with actual serious issues and themes instead. Ok, I thought you had actual arguments for a second, don't scare me like that.

>>161272857
>ribbit spacing
>wanting a show to focus on the actually interesting and not terribly written aspects isn't an argument
The setting itself was the strongest part of the show. The lore or lack thereof was amazing.
>don't kill yourself or dwell on a past you can't change xd
There are HEAPS of shows that do it far, far better than Haibane. It's unique and interesting factors were drowned out in trash. I bet you get 'feels' when characters have dementia and shit. The suicide plot was the most vapid shit.

What exactly do people on /a/ not like about Ergo Proxy? I've watched the first 6 episodes and I've enjoyed it mostly. It seems like it's forcing philosophy into the show in order to be deep though (the Cogito virus, naming the Collective after philosophers)

>>161273216
Bad pacing, fillers, trying too hard. It's alright but people praising it like it's the second coming of Christ are jarring.

>>161273216
Wall-e made a more compact and less convoluted way to tell the same story.

>>161273006
Blanket statements and buzzwords don't help your case at all.

>The setting itself was the strongest part of the show. The lore or lack thereof was amazing.

And it's capitalized upon. The tentative approach to the ontological mystery in Haibane Renmei is what makes the show great.

>There are HEAPS of shows that do it far, far better than Haibane. It's unique and interesting factors were drowned out in trash. I bet you get 'feels' when characters have dementia and shit. The suicide plot was the most vapid shit.

Examples? And no, I don't get 'feels' when "characters have dementia and shit", I get feels when an anime successfully projects themes such as self-awareness and self-realization with a spiritual journey full of parallels between both the characters and the viewers.

I've wasted enough time already, have a nice day. Whoever you might be.

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>>161261555
>no perfect blue
>no time of eve
>no tokyo godfathers
>no millennium actress

>>161273358
>doesn't correct the ribbitting even after being outed
>fuck you if I don't agree it's just buzzwords
>ask a bunch of questions
>actually I don't care I'm above this
>good day sir
Fucking hell man. You sure showed me. I'm sure everyone thinks much better of haibane fans now

>>161258152
people like you and threads like this are the reason why /a/ is filled with cancer
>>161261555
save for NHK (6/10) literaly every other show there is god-tier
>>161273271
>trying too hard
oh look it's one of those place-holder phrases that don't really communicate anything and are used only by people who can't come up with any valid point but want to feel smart saying them

>>161273453
now those are actually overrated.

>>161261555
Ergo Proxy and Eva are shit, but the rest of those are great, fuck off.

>>161268518
some of those shows are good, most of them are meh.

>>161273474
I'm not even a Haibane fan, I just don't happen to watch shows through horse blinders.

And the whole "don't kill yourself" sappy moral doesn't hold water with Haibane, the whole point of the narrative it to allow the characters to exit cleanly and painlessly instead of getting torn apart by a train, for example. Think about it for a second.

>>161273566
>the best selling single series of all time is "shit"

Princess Tutu, Rakugo, Only Yesterday, Doremi, 3-Gatsu no Lion, Akage no Anne, Utena

are a lot better shows than those edgy shows for edgy teenagers (yes you Ergo Proxy, Lain, Tex, Eva.). I admit, I liked them in the past, when I was younger more. But this was like 10 years ago.

>>161261555
How is Welcome to the NHK pretentious at all?

>>161273630
>finally cleans up his post formatting
>ignores how fucking petulant his comments have been
>ignores how few arguments he's made other than: the suicide message is the whole point, which is my entire issue in the first place
I really don't know what you think you're trying to achieve. Go back where you came from. You don't belong here.

>>161273683
Few of them are. The image has two intersecting themes. Shows that are popular and shows that are intimidating to adhd retards. There's a varying amount of 'deep' and 'intellectual' in there but for the most part it's just about how dense the imagery or narrative, and how popular.

>>161273500
>save for NHK (6/10) literaly every other show there is god-tier
Ergo Proxy is so insanely overrated.

>>161273789
disagree

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>>161273764
And I still fail to see how, you, personally wanting the show to be something other than a character study on suicide, grief and guilt automatically makes the show "trash".

And the suicide message isn't the whole point, are your horse blinders really that hard to let go of?

I also don't really know what you're trying to achieve, it almost sounds like you don't even know most of the vocabulary you're using.

>>161273672
Despacito is the most streamed song of all time, your point?

>>161273630
>And the whole "don't kill yourself" sappy moral doesn't hold water with Haibane, the whole point of the narrative it to allow the characters to exit cleanly and painlessly instead of getting torn apart by a train
i also got the same impression

>>161274149
>shitting on Despakino
Stop trying to fit in.

>>161274089
>thinks every sentence needs a line break
>get called petulant
>I-I bet you don't even know what it means
Seriously man, learn the ropes or fuck off. I mean that both in terms of forming sound and compelling arguments and general posting etiquette.
Lurk for at least a year or get a trip so I can filter you.

>>161274168
>how to spot the hibikek pedro

>>161261555
Whats the one in right down corner?

>>161274549
i believe it's Kaiba

>>161274586
Thank you

>>161274184
You do realize you're the one trying to make a personal preference look like a qualitative argument, right?

So much for "forming sound and compelling arguments".

The whole thing has devolved into petty ad hominem anyway, so no point in continuing.

>>161261555
Was NHK actually pretentious? It was just about people trying to kill themselves.

>>161258152
I didn't get it but I like it
what now

>>161273500
>oh look it's one of those place-holder phrases that don't really communicate anything and are used only by people who can't come up with any valid point but want to feel smart saying them
I get what he says though. Simply put, the show has great atmosphere and tries very hard to get you into it, but very little happens, at least compared to what you expect from the atmosphere. Then, super philosophy is quoted all the time just to say "we don't know why we're here and finding a use for us seems good enough".

>>161267517
It's embarrassing that I used to like him.

>>161276188
it didn't have to "try too hard" to get ME into it's atmosphere.
>Then, super philosophy is quoted all the time just to say "we don't know why we're here and finding a use for us seems good enough"
I can't say i'm even a very smart person and let alone that i understand every atom of Lain as some "intelectuals" love to claim but i think that this is very superficial way to describe the philosophical aspect of Lain. Been quite some time since i've seen it but i don't remember it being the way you put it. As for people expectations, well, the author has no control over that.

>>161276188
>very little happens
What do you mean very little? There's a lot of surreal scenes and stuff that doesn't make logical sense. But every episode something concrete happens that moves Lain forward. The girl commits suicide, Lain gets the email and she asks her father to set up her computer. She gets involved with the club shooting, goes into the wired and discovers the scientist experimenting on kids. Her sister goes nuts. She meets the foreign agents. The story scenes are there, and they happen in between surreal scenes.

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>>161258152
No see, I have other ways of appearing intelligent, such as posting von balthasar quotes to my predominantly Catholic twitter following. If anything I like SEL because it's cyber and I'm cyber, that's just how it works, long live cyber.

>>161258152
I understood and truly enjoyed SEL when I rewatched it for the second time 5 years after the first.

>>161261555
If you've watched fewer than 500 shows you have my permission to leave /a/, and suggest you do so immediately.

>>161279004
I have watched 891 shows.

>>161258152
Lain is beautiful.

>>161258152
I only like Lain because I love Lain

P R E S E N T T I M E

>>161263839
Please tell me this is copypasta

>>161274646
Oh my God its pretentious twits like you that ruins shit here

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>>161283074
Read the filename.

>>161283744
He's right though, the other guy came in saying "Haibane is trash" and his whole argument ultimately boiled down to "I strongly disliked the fact that the show dealt with suicide, grief and guilt instead of something else". You can't possibly take that seriously.

And the whole thing was just supported by blanket statements and buzzwords. Pretty laughable if you ask me.

>>161261555
Pingpong or Aku No Hana aren't there.

>>161284256
Don't bother arguing with people like him. This is a bait thread after all.

>>161258152
Anything encoded in ordered chapters must be garbage.

College students pee in their panties over AI lolis. Knowledge only has validity when its application is in the real. Fictional school girls look real great on a rap sheet and you fat fucks need a wake up call.

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>>161285251
It's always hilarious watching 3DPD women get assblasted over 2D.
Reminder that 2D is and will always be superior.

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>>161258152
I kinda "got" it but not really. I enjoyed it, but it didn't exactly "blow me away" or anything. You can probably get a lot more out of it by rewatching it, but I won't bother since I got enough out of it through its atmosphere and sound-design alone.
>>161261555
thx for the recommendations :^)

>>161276847
he's talking about Ergo Proxy not Lain you fucking faggot

>>161277296
jesus christ are you and the retard above you related? learn how to fucking it he's talking about ergo proxy

>>161258214
There's literally no better time to post stale bait because it's guaranteed to hit bump limit.

>>161276224
It's more embarrassing that anon posted it.

>>161279004
>his cut off line is 500
Should be at least 1000
>>161279086
>knows the number right off the top of his head, doesn't need to think about it or tabulate it
Hello MAL

>>161284256
No, it didn't. As I said there was nothing inherently wrong with 'suicide' more that it consumed every other character trait present and boiled two otherwise interesting characters but more so the old one into one dimensional boring angst machines. It didn't do the wrong things it just did things badly.
I've said this multiple times, very clearly, and yet you STILL manage to put words in my mouth, get fucked.

>>161261555
Monster was pretentious trash, I'll give you that one.

>>161289713
fixed
>>161276847
it didn't have to "try too hard" to get ME into it's atmosphere.
>Then, super philosophy is quoted all the time just to say "we don't know why we're here and finding a use for us seems good enough"
I can't say i'm even a very smart person and let alone that i understand every atom of Ergo Proxy as some "intelectuals" love to claim but i think that this is very superficial way to describe the philosophical aspect of Ergo Proxy. Been quite some time since i've seen it but i don't remember it being the way you put it. As for people expectations, well, the author has no control over that.

>>161261555
>try to watch Tatami Galaxy
>mc speaks too fast

I'm dumb

>>161290102
>don't understand [...] Ergo Proxy
fucking what
are you a literal child? it's really not a deep anime, it's just trying to be a lot deeper than it really is
either way it's fucking shit

>>161289833
Not him but using MAL isn't inherently bad as a way to keep track of what you've seen. The community is what's bad about it.

>>161264321
"Overrated" is a meaningless word. Nobody cares about how much you value your opinion over others.

>>161290184
You are dumb, learn to read faster dummy

>>161258152
Why do people still lie about not liking this show? Is it this whole "hipster" fad where teenagers try to be edgy?

>>161268928
By just thinking about it at all? I'm a fucking idiot who didn't get half of Texhnolyze and yet I got the same understanding out of Lain that a lot of people claim to have gotten after watching it multiple times.

>>161268928
How do you get any show of this kind? You watch it, gather up all you've got, create the best theory you can and test it. How do you test it? By rewatching and seiing it holds up? If it does, then great. If it doesn't then you just make up a new theory based on the information that contradicted your last one. Repeat untill succeed.

Then it becomes a habbit and you just understand these kinds of shows more and more. You get better at it like you get better at anything else.

>>161270005
boku no pico

>>161273500
>(6/10)
No one gives a fuck about your MAL scores. Scores are inherently worthless unless you know someone and their standards.

>>161273935
ITP: Brainlet who eats shit because it's brown unlike newer, shinier shit and because it's made from philosophy pages eaten by the person who excreted it

>>161274646
>you're the one trying to make a personal preference look like a qualitative argument
Any complaint about any show is born from a personal preference, whether the person making the complaint likes it or not.

>>161291014
i don't review anime on MAL

>>161291255
That's not my point.

>>161258152
It certainly wasn't enjoyable but I find the plot interesting.

I dropped the show after falling asleep on episode 8

>>161261555
Anyone who hates Haibane Renmei is fucking trash.
I can see people making a case (albeit shitty) about the other series on this list as being pretentious, but the writers of HR went out of there way to tell retards, like this baiting faggot, that it wasn't 2deep4u shit.

>>161291204
Basically this. He had nothing to say and tried to fall back onto 'muh objectivity' like a loser and a hypocrite.

Anyone have a list of pretentious animes?

>>161291868
No because there are none. Someone claiming a show is pretentious is doing so because they don't get it. Not necessarily its themes, messages, or what's happening necessarily, but moreso what its appeals can be outside of the apparent ego-boosting.

>>161289887
>one dimensional boring angst machines

And that's where you lose all your credibility. Rakka and Reki are angst machines, maybe, then again what's wrong with that for a show that deals with existentialism? But they are certainly not "one note". Their angst goes deeper than just "i'm sad", it's above all a compelling mix of selfishness and selflessness while being two sides of the same coin. Their relationship is a pure testament of this with their worldview clashing during the climax.

You make it look like it completely absorbed the two characters' other traits, while in reality they are still here and clash with their inner struggles which, themselves, add a whole new layer to the characters. The characters evolved, Rakka isn't as "happy-go-lucky" after what happened, but she didn't become a full dark one-dimensional edgelord that went stabbing people in the streets either.

You don't seem to realize that the whole argument is pretty much supported by blanket statements like: "the show did things badly", "they are one dimensional boring angst machines", "the interesting elements were drowned in trash". But you have yet to support those claims with actual facts picked from the show.

I can easily counter those "arguments" with "the show did things right", "Rakka and Reki were compelling multi-dimensional angst machines", and "the show's treatment of suicide, grief and guilt was great". You know what, I'm gonna keep it at that, it will both save us time.

>>161291204
Yeah but if you can't back up that personal preference with something other than blanket statements that, themselves, weren't backed up with actual facts from the show, then it just stays that and nothing more. See above.
He claimed that the characters became angst machines, that is true. But he has yet to prove that it was a bad thing. Maybe it was boring to him, I have nothing against that. But calling the two MCs one-dimensional characters because of this is pure nonsense.

>>161291868
Cory in the House
Boku no Pico
Darker than Black: Gemini of the Meteor
Seinfeld

>>161258152
Watched it for like 5 minutes and it was boring.

>>161289887
And you keep claiming that the show's writing was bad. What exactly makes it bad? Because as far as I'm concerned, Haibane's writing is very solid.

The story might seem simplistic at first, but it's a true labyrinth coated with insightful and empathetic themes with an in-depth exploration of altruism to top it all along with conveying what having faith actually implies, what living a virtuous life actually means and that a selfish desire is inherently contradictory to living one.

So stop trying to make it look like it's just "I iz sad, but don't be, but I iz sad too, but don't kill urself, k lol ty". It digs much deeper than that with everything being boiled and condensed to make it easily digestible.

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>>161261555
I'm pretentious trash but at least I'm not a moefag
Have a (You)

>>161290660
>>161290839
those are exactly the responses that were expected. no sense, just blatant trash babbling it look like lain got a meaning when it doesn't.

>>161293290
making it look*

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>>161258152
LET'S ALL LOVE LAIN

>>161258152
lain is one of my favorite because it helped me resolve an existential question that I have been giving myself as a result of getting blackout drunk, and that is: what does it mean to my present self, that I have memories of a past, and what would it mean to my present self if I was to lose the said memories?

I have come to the conclusion that for one to lose ones memories would be equivalent in every way to dying because your consciousness would be altered to such a degree that it would be impossible to call that individual you.

lain helped with this because it showed that objectivity when pertaining to memories is an irrelevant concept, so far as the memories are internally consistent.

if ones memories can be overwritten as they are in lain than that could change ones very being.

therefore it is not I think therefore I am, but rather I remember therefore I am.

>>161291694
And you had nothing to say either and fell back onto "muh sujectivity is worth something" even though all you've been doing is throw buzzwords around and make false claims about the anime being discussed.

Subjectivity based on ignorance and hypocrisy isn't worth much in my eyes.

>>161293831
Faulty epistemology; extremely derivative. Nothing original or insightful.

>>161294095
>isn't worth much
Why would one care what you think? it's all subjective bro lmao

>>161293831
if only you werent born to be such a fag

>>161268222
>ideas, philosophy
Fuck off, pseud. 'muh existentialism abloobloo kill all arabs' isn't intelligent.

>>161269217
MSG is pretentious and so are all of those series.
Yes, I understood the 'plot', as if plot is relevant to pretension (it fucking isn't.)

>>161268868
Nonsense, it's garbage. There's nothing to appreciate about garbage. You're probably not even 20 yet.

>>161273006
Suicide is basically irrelevant to the series. That's why there's only one explicit suicide.
>There are HEAPS of shows that do it far, far better than Haibane
List them.

People who call shows pretentious are more pretentious than the people who enjoy the pretentious show

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>>161289755
>learn how to fucking it
Oh sorry I didn't realize.
Damn this is embarrassing. I got told off by a third worlder.

>>161267517
I did too, but at least we can change anon

>>161276224
>>161294409

I like Lain because it is an interesting, modern take on the life, experience, and sacrifice of Christ. You don't understand Lain until you realize the whole series is allegorically Christian.

>>161294381
read* sorry i'm drunk as fuck

>>161258152
the show is actually intelligent in terms of concepts and message, wich doesnt mean either the execution was good (it was bad and boring as hell) or someone watching it would turn into a Philosophy god.

>>161294490
I disagree, it was poor conceptually too.

>>161294490
I disagree that it was boring, but you're 100% right that a show being "smart" has nothing to do with whether it's good or not.

>>161294177
Is this a Camus reference?

>>161296942
No, it's a mockery of him in drag.