Now that it's finally out, what's your opinion on Your Name?
>>161155139
Kino
>>161155139
Better than any crap Miyazaki shat out in his whole life
why didn't he just write his fucking name
Opinion hasnt changed. First 60 minutes are great then the "plotholes" (or whatever you wanna call shitty writing) start to pile up. Still a solid 65/100, sure as hell better than the trash that is KnK with its completely misguided approach to selling suicidal thoughts.
Plot twist is dumb and breaks suspension of disbelief but Mitsuha is cute.
>>161155585
>kids switching bodies across vast distances
>the fact that it was also time itself was too much for you
wut
it's great
>>161155227
I felt the opposite, everything before the plot twist was a collection of crappy average tropes and cliches, though it's not particularly "bad", just underwhelming. Once the twist happens though, it becomes pretty damn good and you can see why it's rated so highly.
Looks great as usual, but its nothing special.
Tried to make the ending happier than usual, but it's still the same hollow and unsatisfying Shinkai ending.
>>161155807
Thats what I thought by the end. Then I recalled some of the events and asked myself if I missed something so I rewatched it and came to the conclusion that I didnt. Some stuff simply doesnt add up and is overdramatized in a really annoying manner. I guess I just prefered the well executed tropes over the failed attempt at creating something special (since it wasnt coherant at all). Its pretty and the audio design is nice though.
I really liked it. Still the best movie I've seen this year so far.
>>161155139
Generic desu, but very good execution.
5cm was a better movie.
Garden of Words had a better couple.
Don't get why people loved this one so much.
>>161155139
It wasn't that bad, I expected it to be dogshit after hearing all the hype about it but it surprised me, in a good way.
Not bad, but overrated.
>>161156885
Outside of the first story and of course the very end, 5cm/s was very uninteresting.
I prefer Voice of a Distant Star.
>>161155139
Cool for first time. Not really good after a rewatch. The soundtrack is undeniably good, though
At least we all agree on the ost being great, right?
The movie's zen zen zense montage is awesome https://youtu.be/PDSkFeMVNFs
>>161155223
Cause she would had forgotten it, remember even cellphone words were deleted thats why he decided to write a feeling that can be taken away
Watch the fucking movie right before talking
>>161157136
Its really good, my favorite is dream lantern and the op montage was beautiful
Modern classic
Will be talked about 20 years from now
I wish I was a girl
>>161157501
You can anon, but its expensive
>>161155905
thats about it. just pretty.
>>161155905
How wasn't it coherent?
>>161155156
Kanoo
>Bought the special edition off amiami
>It finally arrives
>doesn't come with film bookmark
Was the SE never suppose to have it? I'm a little bummed out about it.
>>161155139
Meh. Montage was a shitty way of building their relationship and the whole movie feels hollow because of it. Garden of Words looked better. Overall it was okay but I expected more from Shinkai.
>>161155139
Memekino
>>161155139
the saddest part was that mitsuha's teacher is yukari from garden of words and she likely died when the comet crashed
Koe no Katachi was better.
ended on an bad note when bothe characters comitted suicide
>>161157240
How would you know that those words wouldn't get erased either?
They completely forgot each other after the messages were deleted.
>>161159245
You got ripped off. Somebody along the line pocketed it.
>>161155139
aside from its animation, it was ridiculously mediocre
>>161159488
Damnit. Oh well, knowing my luck it would have been a shit pull anyway. Only one out of the 34 that I really want is the Yotsuha one (some lucky anon pulled pic related), but I don't absolutely need it so I guess it's fine.
Your Name has changed what I'm able to watch. I'll put on mediocre garbage that I used to be able to down like water and now all I see is shit.
>>161155139
>>>161159957
>soundtrack 6 vs 10
Ok thats just laughable now
>>161159296
did you finish the movie
>>161155139
Overrated. It's great, fantastic even, but almost absolutely not "the greatest anime of all time".
>>161159957
Angel Beats OP is better than anything in Kimi No Na Wa. I couldn't pick any interesting compositions. Most of it sounded very generic, even that pop rock song which plays when they figure out they're switching bodies.
>>161159437
Didnt you understand? the words were deleted because they were just word but the feeling cant be deleted, thats why he wrote that
>>161159296
>mitsuha's teacher is yukari from garden of words
What.
>>161155139
I really enjoyed the soundtrack. Still brings feels.
>>161155139
Mediocre and unworthy of the praise, attention, and earnings it drew in.
Virtually nothing of merit but perhaps a nod of acknowledgement to the highly detailed scenery throughout.
>>161157035
It would be nice to see that remade with better animation and scenery/backgrounds. IT deserves it. It's plotline was also far better and interesting that most of his later works and had a nice realistic sci-fi issue to contemplate similar to The songs of Distant Earth - that of communication over vast distances and the time it takes for sending messages.
>>161155705
this is 4k
hnnnng
>>161155139
It actually lived up to the hype. I wish I could've seen it in the cinema, but stuff like that never gets shown here.
>>161162978
still nowhere to be seen in germany, it was JUST licensed ~2 weeks ago
at least I get to watch silent voice next month in the cinema........
>>161155139
Hum didn't like it that much. But the fact that it was shilled to death in my country maybe didn't help.
I don't know, just seemed to me like some gender bender wish fullfillment movie. Guess it's a matter of taste.
>>161155139
>Mitsuha is A Ho
What did he mean?
I want to watch it because it's good but I don't want to watch it because it's wildly popular.No but the real reason is I have no tolerance for high-school romance shit because it just reminds me that my entire life has been completely devoid of such things
>>161163361
this doesn't really feel like high school romance to be honest, you should give it a try
>>161157035
This shit was ugly, I couldn't even believe it was by him. He sure has come a very long way.
>>161163361
Most people who watched this are in their 20s and probably never had romance or ever thought it would ever matter anyway, but this film really encourages the obvious-yet-always-forgotten concept that romance takes time and interaction to blossom, and the hedgehog's dilemma of how much you are willing to struggle to reach love that you know is out there. I'll admit that I don't usually care for cliched romance films like this sounds either, but watching it made me really enthusiastic to search for my own love and socialize more beyond my comfort zone. I recommend you try to watch the film once to see how you feel at the end.
Why not just use google maps to tell where the town is
Why not just see the news and get the name of the town
Why the hell that he went to school and still didn't knew the name of the town
If the disaster was a national headlines, why is that the guy conveniently didn't knew anything about it
How the hell they fell in love
>>161155158
why all this hate?
what makes you dislike his works,other than they being popular?
>>161155139
Even though I liked the montage they sort of rushed the romantic development in the first half, so the climax in the 2nd half felt a little hollow, especially when they they were panicking over the names instead of the meteor.
>>161163884
>this film really encourages the obvious-yet-always-forgotten concept that romance takes time and interaction to blossom
This is one of the film's weakest aspects though, since they never actually meet except once at twilight and their past is done entirely through a quick montage.
>>161159953
Only human after all, huh?
>>161155139
>Finally out
It's been a year, what do you mean?
A romance OVA with a huge budget and awful writing. I didn't feel like Shinkai understood what a movie should be, there was nothing interesting visual, only good animation. It's a shame this got so popular, it doesn't do justice to what animation can do.
>>161164593
It clearly wasn't an OVA. Words have meanings.
>>161164185
They got along as convenient friends who improved each other's lives by doing different things outside of their gender habits (Taki building a mini-cafe, Mitsuha talking with boys and sempai a lot, etc.), but the constant bodyswitches speed up things to make them wonder how each other feels about the lifestyles they changed and their respective ones that got changed. Mitsuha was first to be curious after all her acts of playing cupid between Taki and Okudera, because she feels like their connection meant more than just friendship and having laughs. She never gets to open up to Taki on how he feels about her, which is what pushes her to find out herself. Taki realizes how much Mitsuha meant to him as more than just a friend when they stop bodyswapping, and the whole tragedy twist made him desperate to reconnect their bond together. The love was more flowing faster through the element of absence and its rekindling, hence the whole theme with musubi.
I agree that we could have used a bit more scenes after the Zen Zen Zense montage, but I can accept it as it is too because a lot of the film involves you as the audience to interpret how their relationship develops based on what you think is ideal (hence why the ending is left unseen so that you can guess how they'll go)
>>161164116
Did you forget how they were actively forgetting things?
>>161164772
Obviously they don't always forget. The guy able to draw the town on his notebook.
>>161164822
We see that it took him a lot of time and effort to remember and draw it.
>>161164976
Said effort should had been spent on trying to remembering the town name, then
>>161155585
translated manga where? google, iqdb and yindex don't show anything
>>161164822
Technically he didn't draw the town completely by memory. He had to look up reference books and images in order to draw a town with the very few details that he does visually remember (the number of mountains, the shape of the lake, etc.). Even then his town drawing is completely unrecognizable by anyone who isn't from Itomori (hence the ramen guy), which does speak volumes of how so many people forgot about the town and the tragedy 3 years ago due to a common case of "i don't care" or simply moving on.
>>161164717
I understand that the idea is that they know each other's circumstances very intimately as a result of living each other's lives, but I feel it's a little awkward to call that friendship considering they don't actually get to interact very much and we don't really get to see them really appreciate any of the changes the other person brought in their lives. The friendship could have been built up some more. From the perspective of a crush what they've shown is more than enough, but the romance got a lot of focus in the latter half so just being more explicit about their daily lives after they realized the swapping would have improved it.
I'm not really fond of the idea that the audience should just fill in the gaps that a film failed to cover, it's not a mystery.
>>161165075
It's on the panda, non H.
>>161165152
weird choice of location to put the manga up, but i guess it never occurred to me to search there
>>161165152
It's more that the two do realize what was missing from a bodyswap-formed relationship (primarily the face-to-face interaction in order to know how each other feels), but they were still glad of the bodyswaps because that was how they got to know each other and awaken something new inside them. I suppose their desire to love each other is how their lives became so connected into one line that it was too painful for them to separate, and only by acting to overcome the pain do they try to reconnect their lives in order to start a more blossomed relationship in the traditional sense (by the end of the film). You're right that the romance could be more explicit by showing more scenes if they could have, but I think that it could be the character's own uniqueness to love like this because they adapted and experienced change just to be together, which kinda has its own implication on what romance means to different perspectives.
>>161165592
I think you're reading too much into something that was sort of left out of the actual movie.
>>161155139
what makes this so overrated?
It was pretty bad. It just didn't leave any impact on me at all.
>>161155139
I watched it fairly recently.
Given the cliche as fuck premise with body swapping and the hype surrounding the movie in spite of it I strongly expected there to be some dumb plot twist. It ended up underwhelming. It's also completely unrewatchable.
Mediocre
plot is trash, but everything else about it was god tier. Sum of its parts
overrated as fuck though
>>161162932
>1080p pic
>is this 4k
>>161159957
READY is great but honestly disappearance's soundtrack is otherwise p forgettable
Has it been confirmed if the 4K is an upscale or not?
>>161155139
I liked it up until that point where they forgot about each other. Just felt like forced tear jerking.
>>161164171
the waifus are fucking SHIT
>>161155139
I like it, it's Shinkai best work so far. I'm glad he finally fuck-off with his 'muh beta cuck', it's fucking annoying and pathetic.
I should probably get around to finally watching this, whose release should I download?
>didn't masturbate immediately when turning into a girl
broke my suspense of disbelief desu
Felt like one of those garbage blockbuster flicks Hollywood puts out every year.
Just switch Shinkai with Michael Bay and RADWIMPS with Linkin Park.
>>161155139
Looked pretty, sounded pretty, but the plot was fully centered around what makes romance shows god awful.
>>161168224
I agree, kinda like a shitty version of what happened at the end of 5 cm/s. That one was actually pretty good because it was realistic, even shinkai hated this shit, it'll never be as good as his previous films
>>161155139
Visuals are good.
Everything else is bland.
Story doesn't make sense.
Typical shinkai bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFQKBqfEWE
The only thing I want are more lewds
>>161172983
holy shit is this on the panda?
Tell me /a/, what version should I download?
>>161155139
Really didn't expect it to hit me as hard as it did. I guess thats what I get for selling it kinda short initially, glad I gave this a chance. Loved the OST too.
desu lads, I kinda wish I was a 2D little girl too
>>161173115
KUCHIKURIKA V3
sorry my caps lock was on
>>161164116
Stick to hentai, you don't have the intelligence required to understand a regular screenplay
>>161173115
25g remux version if you dont have shit net.
>>161173670
Where can I find that? I don't see it on nyaa (both of them)
>>161168319
the term is main characters
his works are not fapbait shit
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
>>161174679
>his works are not fapbait shit
Then why even bother? If I wanted a well constructed film I'd watch a real movie, not gook cartoons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx7_Fl3X1i8
>>161174864
>literally posting all the plot
spoiler that shit
>>161174864
>mfw I was meme'd into thinking keit-ai is just another name for your name
>>161174898
than what are YOU doing on /a/??
/e/ is your place
>>161174864
FINDS A WAY
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>>161174864
Already a thing.http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825
Mitsuha is for _______!
>>161174864
>#1 in the Japanese box office for 14 weeks, 13 weekends
>Earns 20 billion yen and counting to surpass Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets in Japan
>Reached 10 billion yen 9 days faster than Frozen
>Wins LA Film Critics Award
>Has become the no. 1 highest-grossing Japanese movie in China
>Has become the no. 1 movie in Thailand
>The film immediately topped Korea's box office opening on 555 screens all around the country which is a new record for the Japanese film.
>Also dominated China breaking the all-time records for the most advance tickets sold and the fastest film to reach 100 million yuan ($ 14 million or 1.7 billion yen), with the first 100 yuan earned in just the film's opening day.
>The film also dominated the charts of Hong Kong and Taiwan becoming the number 2 and top highest grossing Japanese film on the respective countries
>Inexplicably jumps 41% in the Japanese box office and climbs from 7th place to 3rd place in one week
>Still in the top 10 in the Japanese box office towards the beginning of 2017
>Now grossed US$354 million.
>Surpasses the box office gross of Spirited Away (US$289.1 million), making it the highest grossing anime film of all time.
>Is approved by Shinzo Abe and used by Cool Japan to spur tourism in Japan.
So this is meme magic. Not bad.
>>161174864あなたはそれが存在するため、ということ書き込むのをやめるべきリマインダー。https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
>>161155139
A good romance story
A Silent Voice is better, it presents differents themes and people can relate to those. Example: suicide, bullying, depression, physical disabilities, antisocial behavior, etc.
I need more screenshots of Mitsuha doing dumb faces
>>161156885
I can't believe I sat through 25mins of 5cm. What a piece of shit. Melodramatic almost mexicanesque non-stop narration, music pulled out straight out of "free romantic piano n strings!' youtube compilations. God damn it. I hung on until he met her, and when he did they hugged and were walking home and COME ON. SO FUCKING BORING. I quit it right there. Fucking uninteresting as fuck, literally absolutely nothing happens for almost 30 minutes just some gay-ass voice of a kid fantasizing about his little youth love he's gonna meet but can't cause snowstorm. Your name was highly entertaining, funny as hell, and not as fucking corny. It builds up into corniness, it doesn't blow your face with it non-stop from minute one. KYS if you disagree.
>Koe no Katashit
Fuck off KyoAnus lickers. Yamada hasn't won a single damn thing that's noteworthy. Even Katabuchi's film was 10 times better.
>>161155139
My name? I like it.
>>161175103
Fuck off. If it's better why doesn't it have awards? Why was it stomped in Annecy as well? Face it. KyoAni fucked themselves by enforcing talent inbreeding. Yamada is just Ishihara 2.0 with more hipster artistic bullshit to bad her incompetency.
>>161175149
yea but the train tho...
>>161175099
>あなたはそれが存在するため、ということ書き込むのをやめるべきリマインダー。
with fries,plese
>>161175170
>>161175253
You actually think Your Name deserves all the awards?
>>161163884
As someone who grew up with asian folklore, believing in the red string of fate is a double-edged sword. It gives me hope that I'll eventually find that person, but damn if it doesn't make me lazy and complacent thinking she'll appear out of random any day now. I'm not even antisocial, but the low energy on things that should be self-motivated is something I've been trying to fix forever.
4/10. Embarrassing high-school tier music and montages with bizarre pacing and some of the most boring characters ever put to film.
>>161155223
>>161157240
this is some thing I don't understand about the movie. I mean the cell messages were deleted but there must have been other signs of the body switching. How did they explain all the lost time? Did their friends lose their memory of them acting weird? I mean we know that Taki and Ms. Okudera still remember their time together and maintain their friendship even though it was brought about by Mitsuha.
Also how does Mitsuha still know about the meteor when she gets put back in her body and can't remember shit? I don't think Taki even bothered to explain it to her. Does she remember dying in an alternate timeline? How does she explain how she knew about the meteor after the fact?
What about other physical stuff they affected? How do they explain that to themselves? Does Okudera's skirt go back to being torn? Does all the money Mitsuha spent while in Taki's body go back in his account? Do the minerals and calories of all the cutesy food she consumed disappear from his body and reform as food? But then all of the stuff Taki planned to prevent the town from dying (like blowing up the power plant) didn't unhappen.
So what exactly is the criteria/threshold for evidence that they were in each others' bodies disappearing, And what is the threshold for their memory loss?
>>161159488
They probably ran out. There should have been a warning about it, it was a preorder bonus anyway. They're not going to have infinite stock of them.
>>161165107
Thank you for not being retarded.
>>161165107
How did he look up the town if he didn't know the name of it?
Starts getting worse towards the beginning but still a good watch
Absolutely gorgeous and flawless animation. Anyone have the red string scene?
>>161176697
>How did they explain all the lost time? Did their friends lose their memory of them acting weird?
Basically, it doesn't matter. If you forgot you were body swapping then anything you get accused of doing in the past that you don't remember would just be chalked down to forgetting about it. The friends who noticed him acting strangely didn't know about the body swapping, so they would just think he was acting strange for a period.
>Also how does Mitsuha still know about the meteor when she gets put back in her body and can't remember shit? I don't think Taki even bothered to explain it to her.
You mean after they meet on the mountain? He explains the plan to her, just not on screen. Clearly different rules apply for the twilight meeting than the usual bodyswaps though. For one thing, they don't sleep in the switch back. She is in her own body when she learns about the plan to save the village. If anything the question should be how did Taki remember it through switching back to his own body.
>Does she remember dying in an alternate timeline? How does she explain how she knew about the meteor after the fact?
We don't know. She tells Teshigawara that she saw the meteor with her own eyes, so at that point she still remembered, but afterward we just don't have any information.
Perhaps those memories faded, perhaps she just keeps them bottled up.
Cute and looked good. But it wasn't as tear jearking as most people claim
I am a huge pussy and cry easily and this didn't hit me.
Mostly the end was sort of disappointing I guess.
>>161176872
He didn't look up the town in particular. He sorta recognized the scenery in the Hida exhibition and used books about Gifu and Hida as reference.
He was looking for familiar scenery and then basically fitting it together in a way that felt right.
>>161165284
thats because its not official, its just a doujin
>>161177187
You are me, except for the end. I liked it. My favorite part were the insert songs; they felt glorious.
>>161155585
official manga when?
Here in mexico its gonna have a 3rd weekend in cinemas, i will watch it for the third time
>>161177252
Really? The insert songs felt so cheesy to me. Felt kinda overused too.
>>161175149
5cm per Second is for a very specific kind of person and you aren't it. It's either relatable and hits you hard, or you don't get what the big deal and is and think MC is a retard.
>>161178439
Oh I agree that they were cheesy and overused (my memory is quite fuzzy but I think I heard a very similar song at least 3 times during the movie).
>>161155139
After having time to think about it, I love the movie despite its flaws. It's beautifully animated and an emotional rollercoaster that kind of becomes a convoluted mess that breaks its own rules and makes up new ones so it can hit its beats. It's fun to talk about where the movie goes wrong and theorycraft solutions to plot holes or ways to "fix" the movie, but I still thoroughly enjoy myself every time I see it.
>>161178439
Zenzenzense was probably the only really out of place one.
The OP was great, Sparkle was great and Nandemonaiya was great.
Zenzenzense was a bit of a "why do we need a vocal insert song here?". Especially considering there was dialog that they cut from the final during the montage.
Reminder that Mitsuha and Taki probably spent a good length of time running around Wakaba before they finally encountered each other.
>>161155139
Still not satisfied with the ending because it doesn't feel like a real happy ending.
>>161180543
What, you wanted them to kiss or something?
>>161180543
The final was perfect in my opinion, what did you expected life aint that easy
Finally got around to watching it. Not Shinkai's best work but definitely top 3. Such a cute story.
>>161155139
Characters only exist to fill their shifting role, 0 attachment or any depth to any of them. Pacing would be ok if the second half wasn't cramble with small insignificant details. While the symbolism is there, at first is hard to grasp and have to make some stretched connection.
Visuals and Ost are really good, maybe cut a little bit of the songs during the movie. Direction fells good overall but wanky on the transition to the past paradox. Overall a decent to good movie.
>>161175078
Is all of this really true? Did Shinkai also produce this movie? Because if he did, he might be a pretty fucking rich man right about now.
>>161181293
>>161181417
I'm not saying I wanted to see more of what followed, I'm just not satisfied because ever since they revealedMitsuha had already died, the rest of the "rescue" didn't feel real to me, it felt more like a dream or an alternate reality, but I still felt like the originaltimeline where she diedstill existed somewhere, and it remained like that.
And something else another anon pointed out was thatthey didn't remember everything they lived together at the end,
to them it was just "fate" that brought them together but neither of them remembers their adventure.
I don't know, it just doesn't feel like they "connected" properly in the end. Besides, the scene whereMitsuha goes find Taki and he doesn't recognize her because he hasn't met her yetleft me bummed out, I think maybe that scene is why I wasn't satisfied, because to me it was likeshe died with that disappointment, which is pretty sad.
Anons who understand the industry and possibly know japanese and are thus more informed: How is the success of Your Name going to affect anime in the future? Something's gotta change, but what exactly? I am asking from a business perspective.
>>161181818
Shinkai did not produce it.
I wonder if he's ever gonna even make another movie. It's gonna be impossible to live up to this one.
>>161181941
Nothing, it's already happening. Streaming sites and studios are and will found more and bigger projects. The difference they gona keep them on their original format and a attempts to loclaize them like whitewashing or adding their diversity agenda will be way less frequent. People want to the original, not an adaptation.
>>161182079
So bottom line is that there will be more and more animated blockbusters? Anything else?
>>161181941
It's not like mainstream anime didn't exist before this. Even non-anime fans like Ghibli stuff. The most interesting thing about this movie is that this is probably the first time a non-Ghibli anime movie was such a huge mainstream success. Just like everything else, I'm sure someone else will try to copy the same formula and try to cash in on it but I don't really expect some huge change. If it was that easy, then everyone would've tried to copy Ghibli and create their own blockbusters every year.
>>161182133
Anime will be no longer niche to mainstream. Categories on anime now will be niche.
>>161181839
Mitsuha's conscious immediately transferred from the impact of the meteor to 3 years later in Taki's body at the shrine thanks to him drinking her sake and reconnecting their swaps, hence why she still had memories of the impact and acknowledged herself as gone.
The rejected timelines do not exist separately because, as musubi suggests, they are re-entwined and united with the reality where Taki's plan worked and everyone was saved, hence the immediate changes in townspeople existing in Tokyo and subtle memory paradoxes.
It was a happy ending because Mitsuha and Taki made a slim chance of meeting each other again possible through their work and dedication for each other, and the 5-8 year wait showed that there was no instant gratification for their success. They both lived their normal ways and finally meet to start a new chapter, which I personally saw to be the healthy transition from their youthful days into their adulthood.
>>161182222
Nice quads.
>Anime will be no longer niche to mainstream. Categories on anime now will be niche.
By this you mean that there will be more of a middle ground between niche to mainstream? Or do you mean that anime will no longer follow a path of being niche at first and then (sometimes by chance) become mainstream? I didn't get your point.
>>161182348
I'm talking about outside nipland, so while they are the main target, it will be promoted way more outside but without shitty adaptations or stuff like that. The original product will be kept as it is, now. what gona sell more, shonen like BNHA or SnK or highly oversexualized lolis? There will be the niche on some categories. of course they gona go with the safe bet.
>>161182326
>which I personally saw to be the healthy transition from their youthful days into their adulthood.
That's pretty much what Shinkai says in the Q&A.
>it's finally out
You slowpokes are weird.
>>161183073
The BD you goddamn fucking idiot.
>>161184208
It's already been three weeks.
The movie as a whole was truly one of the greatest movies I have ever seen. However, this movie did get spread almost everywhere and became too hyped for what it was. I honestly wished it stayed kind of lesser known than how much it blew up. Kind of overshadowed other releases that deserved more attention. (Koe no Katachi)
>>161155139
>>161181941
Maybe it will make anime movies more popular, but I don't think it will change tv anime too much. Remember, 90% of them are commercials, the success of something like Wonder Woman doesn't affect commercials.
>>161184478
fuck you
>>161160141
This
>>161184841
>>161184934
I don't get it.
>>161185034
Yeah, I'm at a loss too.
>>161185034
Yeah, I'm at a loss too.
Koe no Katachi was better.
>>161159245
I bought the 5 disc version and got this bookmark
>>161156885
I finally got around to watching Garden of Words earlier today and the best thing I have to say about it is that the animation is extraordinary. The more realistic character designs are fantastic and I've never seen a rainy cityscape look that good before. However, the rest of it was pretty lacking. While it managed to portray two isolated people helping ease one another's loneliness, neither character was very well developed and the movie tried to cover up for the lack of plot and characterization with artsy piano montages, and the climax was fairly underwhelming.
>>161158051
I haven't watched it, but the idea of travelling through time as well being a twist is fundamentally retarded. How the hell would they not notice that, in a million years?
They would have to literally never notice a discrepancy in the date, ever. They would have to not be aware of current events at all. They would have to pretty much be totally unaware of technology.
Even something as basic as noticing an ad for a game that came out 3 years ago would be enough to do it.
>>161185378
>shinto god causes magical consciousness transference across time and repeatedly fucks with their memories
>omg why didn't they know there was a time difference
>>161185451
Not him but that's a stretch. If musubi had transferred any consciousness between them like that, they wouldn't have had trouble fitting into each others' lives like knowing where they work.
>>161185503
>If musubi had transferred any consciousness between them like that
and by this I mean the "fuck with their memories" part. them forgetting about each other isn't because of musubi, it's because your brain knows to erase everything in your dreams because it doesn't fit into reality when you wake up, and obviously living as another person doesn't fit into their reality the next day so their brains decides it was a dream and erases it
>>161185378
While it is a stretch I agree, to be as charitable as possible to the movie, Mitsuha is a country bumpkin and Taki is a city boy. For Mitsuha everything is new to her in Tokyo, and Taki is probably spending the majority of his time desperately staving off urges to just masturbate all day.
>>161185378
There's a central element of the time travel that is hand waved to make the story work. If you really want to pick at it you can say that time travel breaks the laws of thermodynamics and is therefore impossible to begin with
>>161185667
the problem here is that even if you accept that musubi will bent time and space to bind them, it only takes until they grab their phone and look at the date, or get to school and see the fucking date on the chalkboard or their notes, and then they notice "wow, I'm 3 years in the past/future", then write it in the dairy or whatever. They didn't forget anything else about their real lives when they switched body, assuming they would forget the year they live in is quite a stretch.
>>161185667
There's a difference between the scenario working through a handwave and them being made retarded through a handwave, especially because a lot of the positive feedback about the movie seems to revolve around it handling the scenario with a good deal of realism for what it is.
>>161155139
shit
>>161185805
I believe when they body switch, they feel like they are in a dream. When you are in a dream, you are kinda in a limbo state and just go along with the event of a dream. Do you ever check the date during your dream? They probably don't even remember the date of their own timeline is when "dreaming" and then they don't recall the specific detail of the date even if they checked during the switch after waking up.
>>161185898
>Do you ever check the date during your dream?
No but they clearly did because their wrote fucking memos for each day on their phones and they were dated. And the "they felt like they were in a dream" argument is stupid anyway because they only thought that the first times they switched because they had no idea what was happening, once they realized they were switching and started communicating with each other and shit, then it's obvious they know it's real.
I'm not the kind that can't suspend their disbelief to enjoy the movie, but claiming it's perfectly consistent is stupid.
>>161185378
>They would have to pretty much be totally unaware of technology.
Now that's going too far.
Mitsuha is from the country, Taki is from the city.
There's always a disconnect there in technology. And it's fucking Japan. Even in major stations like Tokyo the staff use computers that look like they are from the 90s.
>>161185805
Dates on the blackboard are just month/day at school.
Calendars would have had it, but its not quite as common as you believe, at least not in Japan.
>>161186000
>No but they clearly did because their wrote fucking memos for each day on their phones and they were dated.
They were all dated month/day.
Don't get me wrong though. There were definitely calendars around in the movie and other hints to the years but if you didn't even notice Sayaka's sister then could you really expect Taki and Mitsuha to notice the year on a calendar when they weren't looking for it?
>>161185378
The paradox is really bad planned on this movie. It starts with the girl on the past having the "dreams" when the boy should be the connection to the past and not her to the present. This cause that timelines never fuse together really well.
>>161187077
How can you tell which way it is when they go in both directions?
The paradoxial problem is that Mitsuha has to die for Taki to go up the mountain to drink her spit sake and that's a definite reason why he would lose those memories.
That said, it could have still been argued that he would have gone up the mountain to try and verify his memories of the dream, but because Mitsuha would have still been alive he wouldn't have drunk her spit sake and it would still be sitting intact after he woke up.
But you know what? Time travel almost always creates plot holes, so give it some slack.
>>161155139
It was enjoyable, if I want to introduce someone to a anime movie, could have done much worse. Also fuck the haters
>>161176084
You honestly think Koe no Kraptastic deserves any award at all?
>>161155139
who decided it was a good idea to introduce time travel into a feels movie?
total mess, plot holes everywhere, the climax happened off screen and the main characters got plot amnesia
>>161189032
>i didnt pay attention: the post
>the climax happened off screen
But their meeting on the mountain was entirely on screen.
>but her convincing her father about the comet was the climax!
No it wasn't. That wasn't even the point. The point was Taki and Mitsuha. Their relationship. Them doing what they could.
>and the main characters got plot amnesia
The fucking price they paid for meeting on the mountain. You were fucking told about this. How could you forget it?
>he somehow forgets that a few years back a meteorite wiped out an entire town
>>161189621
There are natural disasters every year that kill at least as many.
Name one from last year.
>>161189729
Not by the hundreds and not by fucking meteors
>>161189729
Russians still remember Chelyabinsk meteor, and it didn't kill anyone.
>>161189729
Meteor strikes that kill people are exceptionally rare. There isn't a single incident in recorded history where a meteor impact has killed more than one person.
>>161189864
>not by the hundreds
Oh so you did forget about them.
Also, if this is still our timeline then the meteor was just two and a half years after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami that killed about 16,000 people.
The meteor would have been a notable event in the unlikelihood that one would fall on a town, but small fish next to the much greater disaster that occurred just a few years before.
>>161189920
I still remember the Chelyabinsk meteor as well, but then I like space and those kinds of things.
I completely forgot about the Norcia earthquakes in August last year though.
And hurricane Matthew.
>>161189948
Not if they'd have happened within an hour drive of where I live and if they'd been by a fucking meteor.
>>161190001
Nigger, it would take you at least 4.5 hours to drive from Tokyo to Hida.
Anyway, part of the message was about the fact that we (perhaps more the Japanese) forget about disasters quickly.
An Anon mentioned previously that there are people in Tokyo who have basically forgotten about the 2011 earthquake.
>>161189359
>muh contrivances make sense when they're vaguely explained
mate you pretentious overthinker
stop defending a garbage movie by pretending that horrid writing flaws don't exist just because the movie is aware of the problems and writes a sentence to justify it to the braindead fans
>muh musubi
doesn't justify plot amnesia
>muh convincing her dad wasn't the climax
it was a major conflict that needed to be solved, but desperate lovesick makoto shinkai decided not to bother writing in the resolution to the conflict because writing real plot is tough
so tell me, feelsfag, how the hell are you going to explain away the plothole that taki knew about the meteor event but not that a village disappeared along with 500 people?
>>161189621
>>161189864
>>161189943
>>161190001
Someone that read the manga said that was expanded upon a bit because his friend says something along the lines of that "It was the biggest event how could he forget?" which would imply he was made to forget not that he just naturally forgot. Not that this wasn't obvious in the movie anyway.
>>161155139
Enjoyed first half when it was just comfy body swap teen shenanigans, hated it once it started to be about stopping the meteor catastrophe just so we can get a happy ending. The romance was also kinda forced.
>>161182326
>Mitsuha is younger than the 23 year old Taki
>Is wearing the clothes of a 40 year old married woman
What did they mean by this?
What's the best BD release of this?
>>161190293
>Mitsuha is younger than the 23 year old Taki
She's 25.
>>161155139
Did glasses and the senpai waitress actually get engaged? They hit it off during the travel montage+both have rings at the end of the movie, but she says she's only stopping by the city and it's sort of odd that Taki wouldn't say "Oh hey your fiance just texted" to his best friend sitting at the same table.
>>161190293
>Mitsuha is younger than the 23 year old Taki
No
>Is wearing the clothes of a 40 year old married woman
She's from the country
>>161190319
It's only been 5 years. She wasn't 20 before the time skip.
>>161190357
>No
Yes.
>>161190382
>It's only been 5 years.
Plus the 3 years time difference.
I got really fucking annoyed in the theater when the swapping places stops and the guy's livejournal app starts deleting all the posts until there's no entries left.
WTF movie, you literally fucking established early on that it was the guy who had the habit of blogging really mundane and short posts there before both of them realized they weren't just having weird dreams!
>>161190175
>that taki knew about the meteor event but not that a village disappeared along with 500 people?
He had forgotten about that. Where do you get him remembering it from?
>>161190175
>it was a major conflict that needed to be solved
It didn't need to be fleshed out. Mitsuha's resolve to survive was made apparent to us visually and through the lyrics to Sparkle. The fact that she managed to convince him and save the rest of the town is literally just a bonus.
There's nothing in any of the material to suggest they even reconciled. It's literally just side plot.
>doesn't justify plot amnesia
Have you ever heard of the trope of god testing a person? Basically gods don't do things for free.
>>161190400
She wasn't 17 either.
>>161190319
26 actually.
Shinkai didn't set a definitive date for their birthdays but considers them both to be born on December 1st which would have made her two months short of 18 when the comet struck and it was spring 8 years later when they met again.
>>161190293
Isn't she supposed to be older if she was in the past?
>>161190401
>I got really fucking annoyed in the theater when the swapping places stops and the guy's livejournal app starts deleting all the posts until there's no entries left.
This was dumb, but it was also poorly shown.
Taki had tons of other memos in his list, but it only showed the 東京生活 posts being deleted and then said no entries when they were done.
If there was a filter in place so it was only showing those posts then sure. But there is no evidence there was.
That would be a way to explain it though.
>>161190424
Did you even watch the movie?
>>161190424
She certainly wasn't 14.
>>161190401
Isn't that just a folder with only posts by Mitsuba? The dates are erratic and they're all pink, unlike the ones we know he was writing before that were in blue.
>>161189621
Honestly it's a movie that you watch with your heart, if you think about the plot it's a mess. Which is not an excuse, mind you.
>>161190340
I don't get who is the guy with glasses working in the flower shop at the ending. Is he the mc friend who said he had 8 work offers?
>>161190247
So he just magically forgot?
This is such an idiocy it goes past a simple plot hole.
>>161187814
At least Koe no Katachi is original and not an imitation like Kimi no Nawa
>>161190421
>not paying attention to the dialogue
who is the fool, now?
>the conflict which means either life or death for over 500 people is unimportant
congratulations, you've played yourself
you're digging the hole and explaining why the movie sucks
>irrelevant weebshit and gods or something that wasn't in the movie
no need to lie to yourself, just accept the movie was written by a potato
>>161190571
Honestly the problem is, i didn't feel anything. Major bulk of their relationships development happens in 5 minutes long segment. This is all funny because i clearly remember getting feels from 5cm/s ten years ago, and it's not like i dislike happy endings.
>>161190600
No, he's this guy.
>>161190766
>not paying attention to the dialogue
When exactly was this. Tell me.
>>161185322
It still moved me more than Kimi no wa Boring.
>>161164171
The male characters are distinctly flat in his work because the author obviously has a dislike for men. It's liked because it's different and has a better representation of women compared to other anime - but it's just a reverse of the usual situation where female characters are often flat (See popular anime's like bleach/dbz etc).
I'm not that poster, but I dislike liking something because it's an unrealistic representation but in the reverse direction - I want both male and female roles to be represented as complex human beings. That's my beef with his work, same as a lot of other anime out there.
>>161190733
Did you watch the movie?
>>161155139
Completely blown away but that's because I had zero expectations to begin with.