Stalker thread

>>161109160
>only six shows arent flopping

Isnt it usually only 2 or 3 that actually succeed each season?

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>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
Ganbare, 3hz and Actas.

Where's Aho Girl?

>ntr
>flopping
So maybe there is a god.

>>161109212
Depends on how you define success.

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>>161109160

>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal

yuri will save this season

>>161109160
Where is insane gambling lesbians?

>>161109160
>***,369 (**2,224 pt) Symphogear AXZ
hot damn this wont hit near GX at all.

>>161109668
Look at the pt

>>161109160
>princess flopper
>not flopping

yurifags in denial

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>>161109160
>**1,008 (***,466 pt) Made in Abyss

Gee, it's almost as if a borefest doesn't sell no matter how much furfags and lolicons try to shill it

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Can't even beat Kemono Friends

>>161109693
>Princess Principal
>flopping
Look at the rank and the points.

>>161109685
And it confirms it wont hit GX at all. They would need another good bonus.

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>*10,904 (***,*41 pt) Centaur
This makes me legitimately sad, that show deserves better.

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>>161109160
>***,450 (***,586 pt) Knights & Magic
Higher than.
>***,749 (**1,259 pt) New Game!!
>**2,328 (***,210 pt) Kakegurui
Or even.
>**4,842 (***,172 pt) Gamers

>>161109397
Only twelve minute episodes so it doesn't count as an anime.

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>>161109160
>*18,634 (***,120 pt) Ballroom
This was down one moment, then on the middle. now it's back on the bottom.
Make up your mind so we can shitpost properly goddamn it

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>>Flopping tier
>**2,181 (***,352 pt) Tenshi no 3P
I like it but I haven't yet fallen in love with the girls the way I did in Ro-Kyu-Bu.
At this rate I don't see myself spending a thousand dollars on BDs/CDs/games/books/dakimakura covers this time around.

>>161109713
I'm not even sure if AXZ is going to clear G levels.

This year has been abysmal for a number of major sequels.

>>161109789
NTR is there though

>>161109802
Just shitpost about the necks.

>>161109829
It would probably be doing better if they actually showed the girl on the toilet instead of that waterfall thing.

>>161109802
Ballroom is going to sell like dogshit. Shitpost away.

So it is safe to say that anime is finally dead?

>>161109832
>implying I know what that is

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>>161109906
Oh boy then you are missing out on life

Am I missing something where is Kakegurui?

CAPTCHA: treadmill
fuck you, i'm just big boned.

>>161109989
It's there, just appallingly spelt.

>>161109160
>Not flopping tier
>***,450 (***,586 pt) Knights & Magic
Ahaha I fucking love mecha isekai now. Is this the power of /m/?
>>161109748
OBJECTIVELY better than those anon-kun

>>161109160
***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
the nips really loved the sword fight

Where's muh Tsuredure Children

>>161110115
>the nips really loved the nippon stronk wank

FTFY

>>161110012
Nah, it's another generic isekai. Apparently mecha fans carry a lot of weight though because in my unbiased to mecha opinion it's barely better than Smartphone.

>>161109712
You realise that it's rank and points means it will roughly sell 1k, right?

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18if has the highest flop:actually good ratio this season.
No sales, but it's the top five of things airing this season.

>>161109160
>Pripri higher than 200
Good news.

>>161109830
>I'm not even sure if AXZ is going to clear G levels.

Aren't they usually late in announcing bonuses that tends to boost disc sales?

>This year has been abysmal for a number of major sequels.

That, on the other hand, doesn't bode well

>>161110146
Kys it's barely an isekai and its only done so we can get sweet ass mechas in a medieval setting so it isn't contrived.

It's fun, fast paced and has great fight scenes

>>161110012
586 is still flopping

>>161110177
Already estimated to sell more than 3k. And it's on rise.

>>161110213
It's garbage and that's why the only reason the threads stay alive is because you keep bumping them for like 5 days

>>161109160
The only thing actually in not flopping tier is Sympogear

>>161109160
Teekyuu is obviously not flopping.

You really should include release dates.

How much did the Sword boys sold?

Can someone tell me what were the highest selling anime of the year for the last 3 years?

>>161110388
KF

>>161110388
idols

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>>161110388
Well, Kemono Friend got into Twitter trending for the 6th time just a few hours ago

>>161110408
>>161110411
I mean anime for those specific years. Also, was Kemono friends really that popular? It looked like complete fucking ass.

>>161110474
>Also, was Kemono friends really that popular? It looked like complete fucking ass.
Go to 2ch
KF treads get as much as 5k posts in just 24 hours whereas current airing ones get less than 1k

>>161110474
>It looked like complete fucking ass
Never judge a book by its cover.

>>161110474
One of the best selling anime BDs of all time.

>>161110474
and my answer was idols

Love live
idolm@ster
Love live S2

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>>161110474
Unupdated chart
KF is currently Nico's #1 most viewed video

>>161110474
>Also, was Kemono friends really that popular?
Apparently, I really don't understand it myself. Japs are a special bunch.

>It looked like complete fucking ass.
Yep and it pretty much was.

>>161110596
>Never judge a book by its cover.
Doesn't help when it has CGI that makes Jimmy Neutron look like a modern day Pixar film.

>>161110655
Love live season 2 sold 65,000 volumes. KF couldvery well have doubled that that it's sales figures are muddled. It was almost perpetually osld out for the first few print runs.

>>161110708
Everyone knows it doesn't look good, noone would deny that, it was made on a tiny budget by a small team.
It's still amazing and deservedly sells like hotcakes.

>>161109160
>make shit anime with minimun waifu bait
>it flops
>make shit anime with maximun waifu bait
>it's a success
Damn, 3hz learned the lesson the hard way, thanks ACTAS.

>>161109160

>***,450 (***,586 pt) Knights & Magic

man, I'm a mech fan, but even I can't enjoy this when it has this trap garbage as an mc.

/m/ might just be thirsty for a good mech anime. Last couple of years have been pretty rough.

>>161110750
>It's still amazing
Tell me what was so amazing about it then because i honestly can not think of how it could be any good other then as a big fat joke.

>>161110746
>muh $1 BDs sold alot

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>>161110746
Do not look at BD sales. Love Live remains bigger than KF but with it's explosive growth, it would take only 2 years for it to overthrow LL.

>>161110803
3780yen was a bargain price for a BD/book combo, but still selling 120,000 copies is impressive

>>161110795
Just watch it.

>>161109160
>*35,684 (***,*93 pt) Aoyama-kun
Wat

>>161110823
Huh, didn't know the Nips knew about Gravity Falls.

>>161110795
Plot, pacing, characters, interactions, pretty much everything apart from the animation is great.
The show has a soul, it feels warm, it captures people's hearts, that's why so many people got crazy about it.

>>161109160
>***,450 (***,586 pt) Knights & Magic
Only good show with good sales.

>**1,008 (***,466 pt) Made in Abyss
Second season soon? I have the feeling making an anime was a bad idea.

>**2,181 (***,352 pt) Tenshi no 3P
>**2,344 (***,381 pt) Hajimete no Gal
Aww.

>*107,379 (***,*27 pt) 18if
Is Gonzo finally kill? Too bad, I like the show.

Everything else is irrelevant.

>>161110823
LL is a multimedia project backed by a record company. It should have an exponentially larger fanbase than all other anime by default from the creepy 3d stalkers alone.

>>161109160
>Teekyu
If Teekyu sells 2 discs it already paid the costs of the 2 frames it took to make the season

>>161110880
>The show has a soul, it feels warm, it captures people's hearts, that's why so many people got crazy about it.
I hate this type of salesman mumbo jumbo
>Can't come up with a reason your shitty show is good?
>Say it feels nice and has a soul!
Seriously, this shit happens every fucking time, from K-On to KonoSuba. Every show that can easily be attacked tend to have the same shitty defense.

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>>161110907
I know that. But look at this.
It took Love Live 5 years of hardwork to fill their first stadium. KF needed only 6 months to be the best selling cd.

Once KF game was released, expect it to eclipse Fate GO 3 times

>>161110883
>Only good show with good sales.
It's flopping, and it's like the 3rd worst anime this season

>>161110869
Maybe get out of your cave a bit.

>>161110973
Watch it and build your own opinion or ignore it, but stop talking as if you knew anything about it, right now you're just being contrarian.

>>161110973
Kemonofriends fanbase are literally the bronies o anime

>>161110976
Getting to the top for a week doesn't mean anything big

>>161110973
I agree with you in regards to Kemono Friends however using K-On and KonoSuba as examples is fucking retarded. Those shows actually have substance to back up their claims and are way better animated.

>>161111022
>muh bronies

>>161111020
I wonder how many of you Kemonobronies ironically shit on MLP and bronies while unironically praising your shitty show and shill it non stop

>>161111085
>muh bronies

>>161110907
>LL is a multimedia project backed by a record company

You think Kemono Friends isn't? It has all the same funders as any other large anime franchise. Companies like Kadokawa, Bushiroad, Victor Entertainment, TV Tokyo and so on. The idea that it is somehow more grass roots or was lacking in support/funding compared to other anime is way off.

>>161111081
>>161111125
Not an argument.
What's the matter? Kemonofaggot.
Truth hurts too much?

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>>161111032
Being the first top 2 is big enough. Also....

>>161111020
Kemonofags forget not everyone will judge their shit for what it is rather than what it means, so they always get butthurt about very legit claims.

>>161111020
>>161110856
Not him however I've watched it and it's a very mediocre 5/10 at best. Gave me about three genuine laughs and one feel. I don't understand the popularity and yet am a hardcore slice of life, moe and cute girls doing cute things type of a motherfucker. So please, if you hold the delusion that everybody who doesn't like your anime that you like just hasn't watched it then think again.

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Wow. It's been 8 months since KF aired and /a/ is still mad

>>161111153
>argument
>muh bronies

>>161111058
I wasn't really comparing the quality of the shows, as much as comparing the fans who defend the shows with meaningless phrases that could be labeled to anything anyone really likes.

>>161111192
I like how you don't even try to deny it.

>>161111171
This is the stalker thread. Stop making sense and shitpost all the way

>>161111208
Because those aren't meaningless praise. People can notice which product is labor of love or not.

>>161111171
>if you hold the delusion that everybody who doesn't like your anime that you like just hasn't watched it then think again

I interpreted >>161110474 and >>161110708 in the way that he hasn't actually watched it since all he was criticizing was the CG and nothing else. Admittedly I might have been wrong.

>>161111166
I've never seen any "legit" argument against Kemono Friends from someone who has actually watched the series all the way through, seriously, in all my time on the Kemono Friends threads. There are usually 3 attacks you ever see. One is the superficial CG hating poster who has dropped the anime before even giving it a chance based on appearance maybe within the first 3 minutes, one is dismissing it as "furry shit" without ever having watched an episode and the other is along the lines of calling it "MLP brony" stuff.

>>161109160
>made in shit flopping

Collection of shit-tier fetishes has no audience, surprising absolutely no one

>>161111242
There's nothing to argue against KF except muh bronies.

>>161111274
>"MLP brony" stuff
Maybe because it is?

>>161110655
The only reason idolshit sells is because they bundle tickets with the BD's and you know it.

>>161111263
>People can notice which product is labor of love or not.
Tell me then, Is No Game No Life a labor of love? I down right has it's own style, including having people who've worked on music for games doing the OST and the outlines done in red rather then black.

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This thread is leaking of delicious sakugafag tears

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>>161109160
>teekyu
>possibly flopping
I don't think you understand this show's budget

>>161111316
How?

>>161111316
MLP is a kids show adults latched onto, Kemono Friends is an adults show disguised as a kids show. If you want an actual comparable fanbase to MLP and bronies in anime it would be the adult males that watch the likes of Precure, Aikatsu and PriPara. Literally shows made for little girls that adult males have latched onto.

>>161110973
>>161111208
People already said it has good characters and plot. How are those meaningless you retard?

>>161111369
Then tell me what was so great about the characters and the plot.

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>>161111320
lol no.
Event tickets are event tickets. Concert tickets results into this

>>161111362
>>161111368
>Kemono Friends is an adults show disguised as a kids show

You know how I know you weren't around when the whole MLP and borny shit went down?

>KF isn't even mentioned once in the OP post
>all of a sudden the thread is all about KF
Some people need to go back to Japari Park.

>>161111277
/a/ likes it a lot though.

>>161111442
I mean the director has literally stated that in interviews and it was aired at 1am. The aim of Kemono Friends was to exploit the feeling of nostalgia for simpler times as children in adults and it worked a treat.

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Whenever a studio spends millions over 3dshit, I laugh as I imagine them raging over how KF, an effortless MMD made fucktons of what they can't afford.

I hope studios would learn their lesson and make more 3d.

Violet Everflop would be the beginning of 3dcg

>>161111467
>>161111442
Not to mention it was launched with a smartphone game and idol group. Those are things that make money off of adults mostly not children.

Speaking of Kemono Friends, why does someanithing hate it so much? Apparently he doesn't even consider it to be anime, and removes all mentions of it from his site.

>>161111572
Literally who?

>>161111572
He hates anything cg to some super autismal length. He is mentally ill I think.

classroom elite is probably the best anime i have seen in my entire life

>>161111572
He is sakugafag.He thinks 3DCG will kill 2D animation.

>>161111467
Well guess what faggot, FiM's creator said several times that she intended FiM to be something that could be enjoyed by adults.
>inb4 buh buh it's totally not the same
Now what?

>>161111572
He just doesn't like any full 3D anime, and that's despite the fact that he like Hatsumemikushit

>>161111492
This has to take the award for the most retarded post of the day.

>>161111639
MLP priority kid>adult
KF priority adult>kid

>>161111638
He isn't a sakugafag. He knows next to nothing about animation or animators. >>161111638

>>161111617
>>161111638
>>161111665
What I don't understand is that he abhors Love Live but loves Idolmaster despite both being idol shows with lots of CG.

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Time to stop drawing 2d and learn how to Blender.
3D is the future of anime. Kemono Friends prove so

>>161111639
Yeah that isn't the same. You sure seem to know a lot about MLP maybe you are cringing at your brony days now and projecting I suspect.

>>161111671
Yeah kids pay for smartphone game and Idol.

>>161111638
To be fair, he is right. Just look at Disney for a great example.

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Stay salty, /a/
Stay salty

>>161111639
Kemono Friends was an adult show that was made to be child friendly too at request of the original creator. MLP was what a kids show where the director tried to appeal to adults too? It's the opposite.

>>161111639
I just looked it up, the creator said it was for kinds and their parents.
Not really the same as a show aimed at pulling the nostalgia strings of adults but can also be enjoyed by children.

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Just imagine how explosive /a/'s asshole would get ravished once KF S2 aired. God, the tremors would quake the foundations of Olympus

>>161111705
Not really, is just that unlike you, I was around for when that shit got started and got to see the endless arguments that horsefuckers would make for the show, that usually went almost exactly like what you kemonofags do.
It's a serious case of dejavu.

>you are cringing at your brony days now and projecting I suspect.
you are projecting your future about your kemonofag days

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This is now a KF thread

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>Not flopping tier
>***,450 (***,586 pt) Knights & Magic

My curiosity is sated

>>161111460
I don't really care for KF, but I do thank it for absorbing the retarded shitposting that would otherwise harm the good stuff airing this season, like Symphogear and Princess Principal.

Why is Apocrypha undeeperforming?

>>161111835
You've no idea what your talking about to be honest.

>>161111922
One word: Astolfo

>princess principal

These japs have really shitty taste and 2 nukes wasn't enough.

>>161111922
No FGO codes

>>161111922
*underperforming?

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>>161110656
Umaru op has 12.4 million views on youtube

>>161111894
Not really. The shitposting were brought upon by shitposters who wanted to rub salt on the people who refuse to believe that a 3dcg can sell so much

And boy do I love it

>>161111928
As cancerous as Astolfofags may be, he is one of the very few reasons anyone is watching this shitfest.

>>161111929
PP has Beato. Best character this season.

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I don't get it but is Keppeki Danshi Aoyama-kun doing good or bad?

>>161111951
Good, at least Umaru didn't look like some shitty pile of bad CG rendering

KF was a mistake

>>161111951
Well Umaru is god

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>>161110115

They seem to have liked ryona too.

>>161112026
No

>>161111951
>comparing episode views to OPs

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>>161111951
>youtube
Haha
Yeah. And AoT S2 op has13million views. And boy did we laugh at its sales

>less than 50 doujins at Comiket
>literally forgotten in Japan one-hit wonder
>retards still shitpost about it on /a/

At least get some fresh memes, nobody cares about 3dpd furries anymore.

>>161112143
It just got into trending for the 6th time, actually
And it was just a rebroadcast

>>161112143
Novelty value will drop off when S2 airs, not to mention now that its popularity hyped it up to insane levels, there's no way it would meet expectations

>***,110位/***,118位
PriPri is on top right now. Could 3hz have finally found their flagship series?

>>161111926
>n-no you

Literally every argument with bronyfags came down to:
>Don't be fooled by the looks
>The creators really care and it shows
>The writing, characters and animation are good
>You should at least give it try
>IT'S AMAZING

Oh would you look at that
>>161110856
>>161110596
>>161110880
>>161110750

Oh yeah, but I guess I just don't know what I'm talking about.
The only major differences are that bronyfags didn't bring up muh sales and could at least defend the animation.

>>161112260
It's a joint with Actas, so they will get some credit since they were the ones that animated the last episode.

>>161112196
The japs were saying the same thing about the live action stage shows too and it turned out to be pretty well received

>>161112319
KF is kinda similar to GuP. More content it adds more popular it gets.

>>161112260
I'm glad pripri is doing well, I really like it.

>>161112346
The difference is, GuP is actually good. Also same with NGNL, people said the popularity wasn't gonna last, yet the LNs are still selling well and the Movie was received perfectly.

>>161109160
>**9,819 (***,253 pt) Isekai Smartphone
Are the japs finally wising up?

>>161112346

It's similar to the World of Golden Eggs. A low-budget 3d production that sold a gorillion DVDs and everyone promptly forgot about it next year moving on to the next meme. It's already happening. Don't tell me about it trending during rebroadcast, every single anime that gets rebroadcasted in the first place trends on Twitter.

>>161112285
>argument
Why would they need an argument when all you do is name calling? You don't argue with man yelling at clouds.

>>161112466
>every single anime that gets rebroadcasted in the first place trends on Twitter

Sorry about the wrong react pic.I laugh so hard I misclicked

>>161111369
>moeshit
>plot
>characters

>>161109160
>knights and magic that high
So this is the legendary shit taste of the eastern island nation.

HEY FAGGOTS

IS KEPPEKI DANSHI AOYAMA-KUN FLOPPING OR ACTUALLY SELLING LIKE HOTCAKES?

>>161112547
I'm so sorry.

>>161110183
This.

>>161109160
>**1,008 (***,466 pt) Made in Abyss
I'm surprised it's doing this well. Aren't they only selling it as box sets?

>>161109160
you don't know how Stalker works.

look at the points you dumb fucker. not the ranking.

>>161111863
560 points by week 6 is pretty terrible. it will struggle to reach 2k in sales on the first volume, which IS a flop (3-4k generally is the point where an anime stops costing a studio $$).

Where were you when only yaoi, yuri and Fate are alive in the anime industry?

It was really fun in the beginning but KFags are just getting Jojo-tier obnoxious now.
Never thought Stalker threads would be able to get even more cancerous.

>>161114221
Stalker threads should be deleted on sight.They're no different from /v/ console war threads, never any discussion in it, just an excuse for shitposting.

>>161114221
Don't try to shit talk KF. Simple as that.

>>161111922
It's trash

>>161109668
At least S5 was already confirmed.

I'm still enjoying Symphogear, more than most people in the threads seem to anyway, but honestly, if S5 was the last season and they actually wrote it planning it to be the last season, I wouldn't be too upset.

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>>161109212

Reminder that disc sales are 7% of anime revenue.

>>161109160
>***,369 (**2,224 pt) Symphogear AXZ

That's what you get for introducing male villains.

Meanwhile Carol's season sold like crazy.

>>161109212
For manga adaptations the sales don't matter much.

>>161112522

Shit just aired and it still has terrible accumulated points. It's going to struggle reaching 4k.

>>161114166

As opposed to what? LN shit, isekaishit, mechashit and haremshit?

>>161109160
>Fate Apocrypha
>Not flopping tier

loloo!
the biggest shit right now

>>161112143
It's threads on 2ch go faster than any currently airing anime and it gets more fan art than probably any airing anime. It started rebroadcasting today and was once again top trend in Japanese twitter with a second season announced a few weeks ago and a smartphone game officially announced today along with a smartphone app. There are collaborations with zoos and over 10 future dousing fan events planned. I'd hardly call that forgotten about nice try kiddo.

>>161114489
>dousing
Doujin

>>161114483

It's going to sell like garbage compared to other Fate anime. It's over. Fate era is over.

>>161112143

It has it's own cons. You are probably one of those idiots who think Kancolle has more doujins than Touhou because muh Comiket.

>>161114450
Did you just forget about Dr Ver?

>>161114524
>Implying fate anime sales even matter
The anime is just a marketing ad for the franchise

>>161114483
Kaleid was kinda shitty.

This one fucking stinks.

>>161109160
So the only thing not flopping is gear, what a depressing season.

>>161109160
Wait, what happened to Nagi Yanagi?

>>161114450
Carol's season sold like crazy because it had a great bonus, you retard.

>>161114618

You mean the meme character that ruined S2?

>>161109160
So, which show is already saved by Netflix?

>>161114068
Well, this show released at later October, so it still have change.

>>161115311
*chance i mean

The only surprise there is PriPri being that high. All in all this season is really shit.

>>161115324
Not really, PriPri's react in Japan already above average after episode 1, unlike us still arguing is the writing of this show good or shit.

>>161115252
Maria and the Gaybies ruined S2. Dont kid yourself.

>>161115357
Can it break even with that amount of pt?

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>>161115695
3086 final pt in yesterday, could be ~3500-3700 in end of this week if it keep doing good.

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>>161115729
That said the storefront of PriPri is really crap, so i assume it need 4000 pts to get break even sales.

>>161109160
>**4,183 (***,190 pt) Guruguru
They should have kept the narrator

>>161114221
Don't kid yourself
Everything could have been avoided if only faggots would stop showing that they are mad. So long as KF makes people angry, threads shall be derailed

>>161115745
Guess they have quite a decent chance of breaking even or even make a little profit then.

>>161115928
The manga sells more than 100k/vol even with the narrator doing shit, making him more relevant won't change much. And this is basically just an expensive ads to get more book sale anyway.

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>>161109160
>Teekyu
Should have been in alright tier, we're probably getting an S10 and a spinoff annoucement soon.

>>161114068
Stop making up shit. No one but the committees knows what their break even point is and disc sales are a small part these days. Also you don't make anime to just break even.

>>161110142
But that episode was poking fun at the nippon.

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>**2,344 (***,381 pt) Hajimete no Gal

This makes me sad, but I'm happy centaur & Koi to Uso are doing well.

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>>161116054
Much like how people bitched about moeshit before Evangelion, the Manabi Line will haunt us for generations to come.

>>161116200
Evangelion is shit though.

>>161115357
Nobody cares about it particularly before episode 5 in Japan. 2ch posters were actually discussing why it was much more popular here after the first two episodes and complaining about time shuffling being a shit writing technique.

>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
And now let's just wait for Okouchi to fuck up again.

>>161116054
What makes this shit even more retarded is that we consistently see anime with these kinds of sales getting made. Production Committee companies might have deep pockets but they aren't stupid and don't just throw their money away. If 60-70% of shows every season weren't even breaking even the number of anime being made would reduce regardless of how the committee system spreads risk.

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>tfw Kakegurui is flopping.
Go and save this anime /a/

>>161109160
>no release date
This is useless.
And how did these threads went from only caring about ranks a few years ago to only caring about points now? Are they just simpler to shitpost about?

>>161116600
>>tfw Kakegurui is flopping.
>Go and save this anime /a/

But Netflix saved it

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>>161116841
Clearly not if its not doing well. How will I see more animated Midari anon. How!

>>161110346
13k wk2

>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
Oh thank goodness. I wanted this show to do well badly and not because of the yuri

>>161109160
>***,112 (**1,004 pt) Fate Apocrypha
>apoc selling high even though the source is shit and no FGO codes as bonus

Hahahahhaha GBF BTFO

>>161116875
>Clearly not if its not doing well. How will I see more animated Midari anon. How!

If lots of otaku are watching it on Neflix, there's no point in buying discs. Hell, I can see Netflix offsetting a lot of supposed lost disc sales

>>161109160
What happened to Re:Floppers?

>>161117763
Yeah, I was wondering about what had happened to this.

>>161117763
It flopped, what more do you need to know?

>>161109830
>>161110208
>>161109713
>>161109685
>>161114431
Symphogear's big money is in the music disc sales. The anime having good sales without any nana concert ticket is a good sign in anyway.

>>161116558
One killer series can cover 10 series worth of red ink. Look at how much MAAPA got for Yuri. Its like gambling.

>>161117960
Studios are mostly contractors unless they're investing in their own series and are a major part of the production committee they're not gambling on anything.

Investors/producers usually invest in so many series with different genres as a form of diversification, which is a way to lower risks and turn their financing from "gambling" to "investing".

>>161116875
>manga adaptation
>anime sales mattering
All it counts is if the manga gets a boost in sales or not

>>161118288
Not really, sometimes they just ask the studio to make a 10-12 ep series to promote their material. They know is a loss but they will still do it because it's better than just a simple OVA.

How did anime fall from stuff like Akira, DBZ, and others which had massive international appeal and cultural influence to trash like Apocrypha and New Game?

>>161117439
You realized it will be one of the lowest selling fate series ever right?, at this rate it won't even reach 10k, and reminder that granblue actually sold around 50-60k

>>161118657
People grew up.

>>161118674
>reminder that granblue actually sold around 50-60k
Because they put up a coupon code for their mobage.

Meanwhile I was expecting Apoc to do the same and put one up for FGO but they didn't

>>161118674
Yeah, they sold around 50-60k game codes

>>161118657
The anime you're looking for is naruto, bleach, Death note, One Piece, and HxH

>>161114434
Reminder that this number only represents the industry as a whole and it's not always true case by case, disc sales still means a lot when deciding if a show gets a second season or not.

>>161118719
Retard, most anime nowadays always include some sort of special bonus in BD/DVD
bahamut also put game codes for gbf in their BD/DVD, yet it still sold like shit

>>161110472
Doesn't change the fact that it has 60k average distribution sales (and that being generous and assuming it never dropped later) which is not at all the highest average in the past 3 years of reported sales let alone distributed sales. (Distribution is often 1.5-2x higher than reported sales) KF fans are super casual anyway so it doesn't matter.

>>161110605
Where are you getting this? Didn't it only sell 120k distributed for v1 and v2?

>>161110850
120k for 2 volumes remember. Thats worse than Love Live and Yuri on Ice.

>>161118844
You're a special kind of retard, aren't you? Why do you keep posting this even though people already told you the value of the bonuses differs? You have to be braindead to think that bonus code for Bahamut or some seiyuu event holds the same value as the bonus code for Granblue.

>>161119021
>value of the bonuses differs
So you admit that bahamut anime is fucking worthless then? good to know

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>>161109160

>>161119102
The bonus code for the Bahamut is worthless because very few people care for the game.

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>>161118872
>>161118927
>>161118897
You sure are slow
200k printed on vol3.

Also, KF is not the biggest selling series. That goes to Bakemono and madoka. It is, however, a one giant fuck you for every single sakugafag. And knowing that visuals never contributed to anything is what makes /a/'s shallow tastes mad

Holy shit, as always the only things not flopping are all crap

>Guruguru flopping hard
But it costs little to animate so it is still making a profit, right?

>>161116558
There are countless income streams for an anime and generally these are planned out quite deliberately ahead of time.
Like, a 30s tv commercial in america costs about as much as a cours of anime airing in Japan, but obviously the commercial doesn't have any direct income streams. It's worth that investment because it promotes a related product. Anime promotes multiple related products (source material, usually), any one of which would be enough to ensure at very least breaking even. BDs make up a significant portion of the total market share, but that doesn't necessarily mean every single series is relying on them to be the thing that allows them to break even. Manabi line only refers to the amount of BD sales necessary to break even on BD sales alone. No show ever relies on BD sales alone.

Few anime ever truly fail, and often those failures are accounted for. It's important for studios to produce portfolio work which exhibits their technical abilities to potential business partners, and these shows rarely appeal to consumers or sell well, but are still nonetheless valuable for the studio producing them.

More BD sales are always better, but poor BD sales don't signal the death knell of every associated party, or even that a show failed to make the money expected of it.

>>161119140
The bonus code for bahamut anime IS for GBF game though
it's not because very few people care for the game, which is false, because shingeki no bahamut is fucking huge in japan, it's just people doesn't give a shit of the bahamut anime and it's OC character donut steel nigger niggress

>>161119150
I don't like your shit series with 0 quality so I have swallow taste?

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>>161119258
Beats me

>>161110183
It's a mobage ad so BD sales aren't going to be their main objective.

>>161109160
Kememe friends is the mlp of /a/?

>>161119168
It's expensive book advertisement since there are 3 Kakegurui manga series running at the same time right now. I doubt publisher give a fuck about the anime sale.

>>161119223
>it's not because very few people care for the game, which is false, because
Source?
It's not even in the top 50 grossing apps
https://www.appannie.com/en/apps/ios/top/japan/games/iphone/

>>161109160
>***,112 (**1,004 pt) Fate Apocrypha
That's pretty low for Fateshit.

>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
Nice, I don't want studios who only produce anime originals die and PriPri is neat.

>>161119619
>That's pretty low for Fateshit.

It's pretty high for something this terrible.

>>161119258
Why do you asking obvious?

>>161111274
Let's be honest here, those first three minutes are fucking rough

>>161109661
>classroom of the elite
hard flopping. it's too western. and shit

>>161121886
The LN's boost in the sales is by far the highest among all the LN-based anime this season

>>161122057
LN's are trash and you know it.

>>161109160
>*58,730 (***,*15 pt) Konbeni
What? How? Is there some kind of promotional material at convenience stores for them?

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>>161118657

>>161109160
>***,749 (**1,259 pt) New Game!!
I'm ok with this
>**4,842 (***,172 pt) Gamers
Honestly, this show deserves better. In a sea of shit "harems but with X" anime it's one of the good ones. It's legitimately funny and even though it will 100% go to complete shit right now it's good. I guess people are tired of this stupid ass genre.

>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
Based Actas even teaching other studios how to be the talk of the town.
>**4,183 (***,190 pt) Guruguru
>**7,749 (***,193 pt) Action Heroine
>*18,634 (***,120 pt) Ballroom
These three are the only ones that I'd really like to see higher. For some reason it feels like most shows this season are right where they belong.
>*107,379 (***,*27 pt) 18if
Fucking Gonzo and their undead antics.

>>161119619
>That's pretty low for Fateshit
Is prism illya not considered Fateshit?

This season's sales suck for everything.

>>161118657
Fate is the new DBZ retard. New Game is just seasonal moeshit though

>>161122945
No because it's actually good. Fateshit is only shitty spinoffs like Apocrypha.

>>161109160
>***,270 (***,897 pt) Saiyuki Reload

Probably will make a profit alone because it has no animation budget.

>>161122957
Anime is unsustainable.

>>161119150
Printed != sold.

>>161118371
So if the manga gets a good boost then there's a possibility we will see S2 ?

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Is there anything that could save Kakegurui ?

>>161122957
anime industry is fucking dead
good shows don't sell for shit

>>161125156
A better anime artstyle, it looks terrible compared to the manga.

>>161125156
As anime goes sadly nothing, but manga sells well anyway and it also has two other manga spin-offs.

If they removed Suzui and made it even more crazy maybe this would turn better as adaptation.

>>161125216
You are wrong

>>161125211
I'm happy to see ecchi growing unpopular. Means we'll get more shows with good story focus instead.

I presume nips are saving up their money for Sunshine S2, SideM, Osomatsu S2 and the likes airing next season.

>>161114434
Yes, and 15% is pachinko. Amazing, right? For example shows like Made in Abyss don't have pachinko and they still get 2x more profit from non-existent pachinko than from disc sales.

>>161125405
>i am happy the industry is dying !
also Kagerui isn't ecchi , I bet you like normie shit like my hero academia and Fate series .

>>161125156
I doubt they will give a fuck as long as the manga get a boost in sales.

>>161125567
Kakegurui is a pretty normalfag series as well if you ask me.

>>161125405
>more shows with good story focus instead.
Name a few examples

>>161125606
Kemono Friends

>>161125616
that's a bait

>>161125600
Uh no

>>161125606
Mob Psycho 100

>>161125606
18if

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>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal

After the failure of Flip Flappers I'd begun to have doubts but this has restored my faith in the viability of smart anime to succeed

>>161125685
>>161125702
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>161125600
define "normalfag"

BASED OKOUCHI FINDS A WAY

>>161126237
Wide appeal, no specific pandering, pretty mainstream themes?

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>>161126342
>kakegurui
>no specific pandering

>>161126342
Anon wut

>>161125770
Not them but please don't be a faggot. Mob was good.

>>161126563
>please don't be a faggot
>on a stalker thread

>>161109160
Aren't the first BDs going to come out soon? If these are the numbers literally everything is flopping.

>>161126342
>no specific pandering
What?

>>161109719
Why ought people to buy it? It's not like it has awesome fanservice or action scenes.
It's a nice anime worth watching, but not necessarily worth owning.

>>161114383
>>161115952
You say that, but this post just brought KF out of nowhere >>161109708, and even then, people ignored and this quote of mine was the first quote to it. But they still keep spamming and trying to derail the thread.

You don't kid yourself, the fanbase already turned to a cancerous one.
Worst is, I don't even hate KF, I really like it and when the first STALKER came out with KF's numbers, I did had some great laughs, but right now is just annoying.

I'm glad for the existence of Kemono Friends to derail and shitpost on salesfag threads.

>>161127012
>a handful of shitposters in a shitposting thread
>the fanbase
Yeah no, fuck you.

>>161119478
That's Jojo, Kememe is more like the Duck Dodgers or StarV, something not many agree on being good but have become cult classic stuff that their fans won't shut up about whenever brought up.

>>161109748
Mecha is always a good investment in Japan

>>161110213
It's shit and the mechas battles are really boring and lack drive
Also, the MC is annoying fag.

>>161110213
>Kys
Fuck off.

>>161110213
>it's barely an isekai
That's what they say for every isekai. All the same shit.

>>161127546
>>161127608
Fuck off.

>>161127721
>defending kysposting
No you.

>>161125633

It literally had the best story in years.

>>161125728
>Flip Flappers
>smart

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>>161125728
>Flip Flappers
>smart

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I just want sword anime forever

>>161109160
>***,129 (***,641 pt) Princess Principal
Kek don't get ahead of yourselves yurishitters, it will be sub 1,000 before the week's end.
Where it should be, in flopsville.

>>161127012
A lot of people hate Stalker threads and salesfag. KF is just an excuse to troll them, it has nothing to do with the state of the fanbase.

>>161119179
I don't know if you directed that at the wrong posted but my entire point was that BD sales aren't as important as people make out.

>>161117763
Vol 2 sold 2k
Vol 3 sold 1k (I think)

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>>161128122

>the city of Fatefags

>>161128174
Vol 3 releases 26th this month, you waste of breath.

>>161109160
>tfw everything on my plate is doin good or is really good but in possible flop tier
Im ok with this. Classroom of the elite's really mediocre anyway. thats the only one im watching thats an actual flop.

>>161126614
this only the most autistic anons are salesfags, kinda explains all the yurifags honestly.

God I fucking hate this shitty industry . Fuck all of you faggots .

>>161128049
Maybe after Ufo is done with fateshit they'll start doing swords for as long as the franchise lives

>>161128329
***,711位 (**1,333pt) [*,**0予約] 2017年08月23日 Re:CREATORS 3(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
Eh, it's still pretty shit. It deserved to sell less than Sakurako.

I don't care which of the shows this season will get another season, so I don't care about the disc sales of any of it.

>>161128548
**3,445位 (***,913pt) [*,**0予約] 2017年08月23日 【Amazon.co.jp限定】Re:CREATORS 3(全巻購入特典:「シークレットアーカイブUSB」「描き下ろしアニメ版権A4フレーム付イラスト(軍服の姫君)」引換シリアルコード付)(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]

>>161127148
Clockwork argument

>>161127267
>something not many agree it's good
Japan agree. Better get used to it.

>>161126563
Mob was fujoshit

>>161128924
Anything with more than 1 male character is fujoshit.

91 place / ***, * 91 place (***, 705 pt) [*, ** 6 Reserved] 2017/09/27 Princess Principal I (Special Edition) [Blu-ray]

PP has entered 100!

Two popular idol series and Osomatsu air next season. Explains why this season is selling like shit.

PriPri is only this high because it has no competition this season besides the Fate spinoff which is so shitty that even die-hard fans tend to think twice before preordering. This season is so fucking awful that something mediocre with a good production and an attractive look like PriPri ended up being this near the top.

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>>161129066
Well Japan did like JG but this has cute girls and Beatrice bullying so I'm a little surprised it's doing so well.

>>161128979
Re:Zero wasn't fujoshit. Not true.