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Why didn't Kiritsugu bring some extra homunculi with him

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Why didn't Kiritsugu bring some extra homunculi with him as backup soldiers? An average one is so strong that it's a pain in the ass for the magus association to hunt down a single stray. Hell, some did accompany him when he first landed in Japan
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>>161079168
bump
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>>161079228
>someone else bumping a 1 minute old thread

why
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I think a better question is why didn't he fuck all of the homunculi, literally perfect specimens that you can crank out by the dozen via voodoo bullshit, and they're even fertile.
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His endgame was to betray the Einzberns, they would interfere.
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>>161079381
it's actually the other way around

the Einzberns didn't care what Kiritsugu would wish for with the Grail, they just wanted to win finally. they're pretty much robots who are obsesessed with it.

on the other hand, the Einzberns deliberately didn't tell him that the Grail is corrupted and it'll fuck him over even if he wins.
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Kiritsugu's whole schtick is stealth and subterfuge. It is the reason he says that he thinks he would work better with an Assassin servant and why, in the impossible case where he does in fact become a Counter Guardian, he is an Assassin. Basically, Kiritsugu doesn't need homunculi for either combat or observation because open warfare via orthodox magical methods is simply now how he does things--and he's right for thinking that way.

For those of you who have been watching Apocrypha, remember how Kairi took down an entire squad of attack homunculi (made by Gordes to about the same specs as Einzbern homunculi) with ease? While Kairi is noted to be quite proficient at combat, he is not a particularly outstanding magus overall. Anything that Kairi can handle is also something that the likes of Tokiomi, Kayneth, or Kirei could handle.
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>>161080059
Ygg homus=/= Einzbern homus. The latter in numbers would be pretty helpful against Kirei and Fastwheels, the only threatening masters
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>>161079325
>fertile
citations?
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>>161080223
kerry + iri = illya
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>>161080222
(made by Gordes to about the same specs as Einzbern homunculi)

Didn't read this part. Well shit then. But it's not like Apocrypha doesn't ignore a ton of other rules for the sake of it
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>>161079655
Makes you wonder why the Einzberns didn't try cheating in a way that is more suited to their abilities. If they summoned someone like Paracelsus or another alchemist of similar legendary stature, the Einzberns might have been able to just make a core for a new Greater Grail.
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>>161080305
iirc, she had to be adjusted on request for that
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>>161080409
Not that easy sadly. Making the greater grail not only was a bigass ritual but required knowledge to instill in it that only the Tohsaka and Matou families had. That and didn't the original greater grail require the Einzbern's family head to kill herself (Heaven's Feel)?
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>>161080641
>Making the greater grail not only was a bigass ritual but required knowledge to instill in it that only the Tohsaka and Matou families had.

You have it backwards, friend. The Einzberns were the ones who had the knowledge of how to make the Greater Grail, because they were the ones who originally possessed the Third True Magic to begin with. They brought the Tohsakas and Matous on board only after trying and failing to recover it by their own efforts alone. The Tohsakas were recruited because they possessed land of very high spiritual quality, and the Matous were recruited so Zouken could design the Command Spell system.

It's why it's interesting to speculate on whether, between the knowledge that the Einzberns still have about the Third Magic, and the help of another alchemist who is even greater than they are, whether they could make some headway. This is putting aside the impossible situation where they summon Solomon and he's able to perform the Third Magic at will as long as he has all ten of his rings.

>That and didn't the original greater grail require the Einzbern's family head to kill herself (Heaven's Feel)?

Yes, but that is not an issue given that all of the homunculi that are made to perfection and bear the name of Einzbern, like Irisviel and Illya, are copies of Justeaze and already function as Lesser Grails. They probably have the qualifications to be made into the core of another Greater Grail assuming the rest of the ritual is there.
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>>161081161
Zouken played a big part in stabilizing the greater grail. They might not be able to do it again with his knowledge, and that's if he's still capable. Tohsaka were just local landowners
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Not enough Leysritt porn
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>>161079168
Oh
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>>161079302
why not
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