Wow it actually lived up to the hype.
>4k is just 1080 upscale
they can't keep getting away with this
fucking japs
>>161027890
>>4k is just 1080 upscale
Where'd you get that?
>>161027935
>how do i google???
4k being upscales is a common knowledge
the thing is clappers atleast have the decency to upscale from 2k most of the high budget hollywood movies
most popular anime movie of recent times(and as awards list show - of ALL times) having UHD upscaled from 1080 is a fucking DISGRACE
>>161028032
>4k being upscales is a common knowledge
So you have no evidence?
>>161027734
>>161028138
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kimi+no+na+wa+4k+upscale
>>161028138
>sky is blue!
>BROOFS????
>>161028168
I already did that search. All I got was hearsay and rumors.
>>161028202
seeing how out of the loop you are with shit that's been known for fucking months i can easily assume you're also out of the loop about things that are known for as little as a week so let me enlighten you:
4k rips are accessible, go get them and see for yourself you little shit
>>161027734
pretty good
>>161028200
highly superior
>>161028200
FUGG
forgot pic
>>161028267
>>161028156
Yeah but Disappearance didn't make me feel anything like this did. Maybe the LN did, it was considerably more fleshed out.
>>161028249
I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers. That was not my intent. But you didn't make your posts in a way that made it look like you really knew what you were talking about.
Especially the bit where you went from "THIS MOVIE IS UPSCALED - FUCK THE JAPS" to "all movies are upscaled" seemed highly improvised on the spot.
>>161028322
>all movies are upscaled
this bit i dont even have to prove
at any rate it's a devil's proof, i honestly doubt you could find a movie with 4k bd release that wasn't an upscale from a 2k, considering 2k is average cinema screen res
Why is Kimi no Na wa so popular? I legitimately don't get it. I watched it and I thought it was an okay movie but nothing particularly stood out about it.
>>161027734
It definitely did not.
>>161029460
because these morons think pretty visuals outweigh the completely devoid and unbelievable characters and ineptly written and inconsistent plot
man i loved this movie
just watched it last week and rated it 10/10 in my MAL
>>161027935
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5311514/technical
>>161027734
I'm generally not one to be contrarian but this movie sucked ass and I was really disappointed. It lacked the subtlety of Shinkai's previous movies and embraced a full blockbuster narrative instead.
If you already know the plot twists there is nothing remotely enjoyable about it. The characters are very underdeveloped, bland designs in a gorgeous movie, and the plot feels like fanfiction with its liberal use of plot devices.
君の名はって未だに観てる人居るんだな
俺は観たことないけど。
>>161027734
"You idiot, you were supposed to write your name."
;_;
Story was average, the romance in Garden of Words was better. Worth watching for the twist and the wholemeteorsuspense though.
Restaurant senpai was the better girl anyway.
>>161029460
Same here. Without the gorgeous backgrounds it was okay at best, mediocre at worst.
REALLY needs more porn
Kimi no na wa felt too much like a run of the mill anime but with good animation. It also tried to be more that it could have been and didn't work well.
Koe no katachi was a much better movie.
I know I sound like a hipster, but I don't understand how KNNW got so popular.
>>161027734
I don't understand why people think this lived up to the hype. Have you just flat out not watched much anime or films? It's a nice film but nothing special in any way.
>>161030640
It was marketed more worldwide rather than just in Japan, including cinema screenings and a dub from the getgo.
I guess it's just really popular because of the art styling (ie. backgrounds) look great, because it's a Shinkai work
Honestly I could forgive the plotholes, it's a dream all that.
The biggest issue is that it doesn't actually feel like a film, but more like 5-6 tv anime episodes put together. I never felt "oh that was a nice composition" or "what did he mean with his shot" (in a serious way), and consider I am far from an elitist. I mean, I am watching the Expendables right now and I think it's more visually interesting that Kimi, excluding the scene with the meteor.
>>161027734
>expected a mediocre movie
>got a mediocre movie
Was not disappoint.
Its a Shinkai for people who don't actually like Shinkai.
Which is good because Shinkai is overrated. It took what he is good at and removed all the shitty aspects he forces in.
>>161029460
Because it's a love story. Just look at shit like Oregairu for example.
Way better than the shit of koe no katachi and its message about if you are deaf you need to kill yourself because you make the life of everyone around you way harder.
>>161028298
Disappearance was like, a 99% adaptation. I think they even added things to it that weren't there that add a lot to the movie, like Sasaki being Kyon's last contact and the post credits with Yuki.
>>161031134
Most movies are.
anyone got a magnet link? last I heard the latest was 480P (with subtitles of course)....
>>161029460
People like to one-up each other a lot. These people have seen not many movies but one movie a dozen times. They just compete with eachother on how many times they can watch the same movie. Obviously they're going to like something when everyone around them does.
>>161031020
Nothing you've said sounded as good as it did in your head.
>>161027734
>Hipsters will shit on an anime literally designed to be nothing more than a entertaining really well-made popcorn flick
Really causes ones neurons to fire ind a coordinated manner
I loved the movie, its really hard for anything to get an emotion from me but somehow this one did, they knew how to convey their message and feelings, its not the best movie ever but its my favorite by far
I want to lewd Mitsuha's imouto
To me if was more of a story of youth than it was a story of romance (which is still correlated to youth). It makes people wonder if they ever see their old times as special or not through different perspectives than your current self, and whether you are living how you wanted, and even the question of what it means to want to live that way. The film really encourages the notion of stop accepting things as they are if you don't want them to be like that, and to strive for what you want even if it means leaving your comfort zone or exploring elements and feelings beyond your understanding. That's why I love it so much, because it's a very passionate work that pushes for meaning in things that should be obvious but always so easily forgettable with time.
>>161037541
Do you have the one with aho written
>>161037709
Here ya go.
>>161030463
Ruined herself by smoking.
>tfw you got the one you wanted
>>161037541
Do you have an album with those picks? mitsuha is a cute
>>161038515
Nope, just saved them as they appear.
>>161038546
>>161038583
>>161027734
what hype?
the hype of not getting a oscar nomination?
>>161038620
>>161037541
>>161037730
>>161038546
>>161038583
>>161038620
Stop anon i just got diabetes so much cuteness
>>161038660
And last one I got.
It still strikes a lingering thought that Mitsuha waited 8 years for Taki. Even longer if they didn't meet via the trains.
>>161038706
it's part of what makes her the best
am i really supposed to believe they never ever checked the year on their phone?????
maybe i could accept it if rest of the move was incredible but aside from animation it's super generic
>>161038706
She didnt wait she didnt had another opcion she would always feel empty and remember musubi their link will never dissapear
>>161038906
Remember when they change body they arent 100% aware of that, thats why they forget it inmediatly and also do you check the year on your phone reguraly?
>>161039027
i schedule stuff on my calendar so yes, they seemed to live fairly busy lives so it's not hard to assume they would use it at least a few times
>>161038281
It made her realistic to how waitresses and waiters behave
>>161038906
>>161038926
She did focus on adjusting to the city life thereafter, but she kept living with the hope that she'll find her forgotten person who said he loves her and was responsible for saving her and the village people. She still holds onto the belief that she'll know when she sees him and waited for as long as it takes, each day thinking "just a little longer" for that hopeful moment to occur.
>>161039120
My calendar doesnt show year
>>161028200
Much better
>>161027734
I thought the ending was fantastic, it was incredibly suspenseful because you knew that they could've just walked past each other again without remembering and it would've been a bitter ending
>>161039306
And even more if you had watched shinkai films before i was sure i was gonna get 5cmed but thank god it didnt
>introduce an entirely new supernatural mechanic that has nothing to do with the bodyswapping or anything else in the movie just so the MCs can meet
>>161039537
>don't pay attention in class and then complain when what was talked about happens later
It was 5 centimeters per second for people who didn't like 5 cm per second. Escapist fantasy for japanese youth who don't like the tragedies life brings. Characters behave in an unrealistic way because the retarded flick time travel and bodyswitch plot called for it, hinges on its convenience to tell its plot, and there is seemingly no consequences to any of the characters retarded actions. It panders to the lowest common denominator. There's enough bad writing that retards like the Pedantic Romantic and Mother's Basement can write psuedo-intellectual video essays about it, justifying the lack of competence. The animation isn't even the greatest, certainly not as good as most anime films released between Akira to Jin Roh. The character designs are incredibly generic and will scream "2010's anime" in the next 10-20 years. The art itself is very pretty, but the cinematography is uncreative, kept reusing that stupid "door closes into the camera" transition. Most of the music is generic J rock. Overall, its a below average movie that is critically acclaimed because its accessible, and will likely be remembered because it made lots of money.
>>161039898
this post is so laced with bait I don't even know where to start
>>161039804
I'm complaining about its existence in general, not how its introduced. It has nothing to do with anything in the movie, like at all. Its not part of the Musubi god, or Mitsuha's ability to bodyswap, nor does it have anything to do with the comet. Its just there for the sole purpose of them meeting for a few seconds despite being a huge worldbuilding development, even more so than the Musubi god.
Though a few words in the classroom in the beginning of the movie was a really poor way to place Chekhov's gun. All in all its a plot device in a movie littered with plot devices.
>>161039537
Kataware Doki wasn't a separate thing. For it to happen on the same day moments before the calamity impact that musubi forewarned meant that it had a purpose in reverting back the bodyswappers near the God Body shrine. Another argument would be that Kataware Doki was a gift of the underworld: the two get to swap to their proper bodies and meet one last time at the cost of losing memories of each other's names and events. The whole point was that both of them are necessary towards fulfilling the Miyamizu prophecy.
>>161039898
Tell me whats good then you for sure know right?
5cm manga is really good the movie is not, it needed more time
>>161039974
5 centimeters per second was the superior movie in almost every regard. Not hard to understand.
>>161027734
A boy falls in love with a girl.
Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.
But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
>>161039991
>the two get to swap to their proper bodies and meet one last time at the cost of losing memories of each other's names and events
Where was this mechanic introduced? I don't remember seeing that in the movie, not to mention they've been conveniently forgetting shit throughout the entire movie.
>>161039992
>characters reacted in a realistic manner
>an unorthodox ending for a romance
>it may be rushed and not paced well, but it didn't overstep its boundaries
>>161040059
Make it now, good shit anon
>>161039979
The thing is, the teacher's explanation is an unreliable narrative and may or may not be actually what happened at that point. They were able to meet for that one moment because it was a bridge between two different times within the same space, yet it can only go for as long as there is sufficient time to save the people from the meteor. It can be part of the Musubi God, the meteor's 12,000 year cycle, the underworld, or even just "time-flyer" lovers. The point of it was essentially to be a "mystery" in how the audience wants to perceive it to be interconnected with everything else.
>>161038906
>Hello, I attend a school where the year is never mentioned and nothing is ever distributed with the year on it.
I wish that guy would move his head so we could see what is written below "October" on the board.
>ITT people realizing that a plot about people body swapping across time might not be rock solid.
I mean yeah it's clear that the logic of the world isn't completely consistent at all times, but all of the plot devices that the movie sets up exist pretty much entirely to ensure the success of the movie's emotional payoff. Since that emotional payoff is the most memorable and most important part of the movie, I don't really see why you guys are nitpicking everything about the body swapping and time travel when it's pretty clear that it's all supposed to be a handwave from the beginning.
>>161033861
https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/search?c=3_5&userID=0&q=your+name
>>161040151
Read the manga is better in every regard
>>161040078
It's the part where Taki!Mitsuha goes with the grandma and imouto to the crater to put the sake, and when they're crossing the river grandma says that "from this point on it's another world, to leave this place you must leave behind the most precious thing to you" which in Taki and Mitsuha's case are their memories of each other and the bodyswapping events.
>>161040318
because it doesn't excuse a lazily written narrative
>>161040338
Not wrong
>>161040078
Like Granny said, crossing over the underworld and back meant to leave behind something precious. Taki crossed through in order to save Mitsuha, and Mitsuha crossed out in hopes of seeing Taki again. The two get what they wanted, but it came at the cost of their memories of each other's identities.
What I say is not the absolute explanation for this mechanic, but it is one of many interpretations. There's no one completely satisfying answer for why things work as they appear, but that is part of the film's theme on musubi where things do entwine and interconnect in unexpecting ways.
post lewds
>>161029460
The plot is unique and "made me think" tier, it has a decent twist , and it's a romantic story
It just works
>>161039974
I actually agree with him, especially the designs. I already forgot how the guy looks like and I forget how the girl looks when I stop looking at your post.
He's right, those two are the incarnation of 10s anime characters.
The only thing I learned is that girls don't grope their breast each morning and it confuse the hell out of me
I always reach to my dick when I got morningwood
>>161040318
I don't have a problem with plot inconsistencies. For the most part its pretty solid. The amount of "convenience" and plot devices makes the movie feel really cheap and half-assed, like they didn't bother coming up with a proper narrative and started tacking things on because they needed things to happen.
>forgets Itomori disaster
>somehow doesn't know the name of the town he's spent so much time in
>never notices the date
>the phones deleting the messages
>encountering each other on the train post-timeskip
>Mitsuha for some reason deciding to give him her corded braid when she's being pushed out of the train
>nobody recognzing that they have the exact same braided cord
>Kataware Doki
>Taki deciding not to write his name despite full well knowing she isn't going to remember him if he doesn't
It's easily one of the more frustrating anime I've seen because of all this bullshit. Like right up there with Okada's convenient character placement in NagiAsu
>>161039974
hes right you know
>>161040376
>>161040472
Oh okay, thanks. That seems kind of arbitrary given how the body swapping has memory less built in.
>>161039974
It's just a high budget OVA from some romcom anime
>>161040318
Because it means he has no respect for the viewers, he just writes shit to make you feel without caring about how it is placed in the world he built. The sad thing is, he's right apparently.
>>161027734
I took a vacation to Japan earlier this year, and watched this on the plane when we left Tokyo. It was very surreal seeing how well they depicted the Tokyo in the movie. It was nice closure since I didn't want to leave.
>>161040804
How was it anon?
>>161040744
From the beginning it seemed pretty clear to me that I wasn't watching a world-building based fantasy film with a lot of internal logic governing its magic system. It's a romance film with classic Shinkai separation themes translated into a magical sort of approach. The movie is first and formost about developing the relationship between the two main characters, and every scenario they find themselves in has its ultimate dramatic significance in Taki and Mitsuha's relationship. Reading so heavily into the obvious fiat of how the god magic works seems beside the point of the movie to me.
>>161041157
The inconsistency here is not something minor though, it's the very basis of the meteor hitting the town situation. The writer at one point had to ask himself "why did the characters not know the year they were in?", he failed to answer the question so he simply moved on.
It's a massive problem, we are not reading too much into it.
The thing is, there is no way to fix it and keep the movie as it is, so Shinkai simply went on with it.
>>161040657
I don't want to bother going through explaining every nitpick listed, but the thing is that a severe logical approach to the film is not the best way to watch it, especially when it's a red-string-of-fate romance story to begin with. A lot of the characters' rationality is based on how they interpret circumstances beyond their expectations and logic, and that is to say they are not going to have a full answer or understanding towards even their own actions. Example is that Mitsuha gave the cord to an oblivious young Taki because she knows that he is Taki and she believes deeply that they are still both connected as more than just bodyswap friends, hence she gives him her name and a memoir in hopes he will feel the same. A lot of the thinking in this film is based upon belief of the characters rather than the most logical solution that is only obvious to the audience. Even then, the film does have rational basis for why certain things flow in order to maintain realism. For example, neither would know they have the same cord because they do not how each other wears them or where they store the cord because they hae never seen each other's appearance to begin with. The film has its careful approach to only reveal as much logic as it wants the audience to know, yet the primary foundation for the emotional impact comes from both the use of belief and the suspension of belief. In no way is it as inconsistent or cheap as you might think it is from your viewing interpretation.
>>161041157
not him but I'd say it depends on your level of suspension of disbelief. Personally mine is pretty low, so I end up enjoying more grounded anime such asKoe no Katachiso it makes sense that I found Kimi no Na wa very emotionally disconnecting.
However, people who have a higher suspension of disbelief are more willing to waive things as you said, and Kimi no Na wa is definitely more enjoyable to those kind of people.
>>161041312
That's a bit of reaching though. It's part of dramatic irony that you (the audience) may be hinted towards the difference in years, yet the reveal during the middle is what makes it full-blown clear to Taki. It was a matter of being too late to realize such an unexpected turn of events that was more important than asking "oh, but what if he HAD noticed? What would he have done then?" in a very boring approach. The film does not just move on without answering questions, it intentionally leaves those questions unanswered either to reveal them in an effective dramatic matter of to leave the audience thinking to themselves on how to interpret it.
>>161038906
This.
Btw, why didn't the waitress and his friend helped him remember shit? Why didn't they instead of finding out wtf is going on and keep track of everything important decided to just go along even though the grandma explicitly tells the guy what is going on?
>Can't remember what happened. Maybe they got mad at me and somehow ditched me in the fucking top of a mountain. Yeah, that must be it.
>*Life goes on normally because phones surely have a temporary disruption checking feature, notebooks can't keep magical ink on them for long and relatives have no real interest on abnormal things goin on around them*
Got laid after watching it, so yeah, it might not be that bad. The background art is quite good.
>>161040502
Mitsuha is not for lewd
>>161041365
That's a very long-winded way of saying, "Turn off your brain"
>>161041678
Whatever helps to make you understand that the narrative isn't as random as you would want to think it is, anon.
>>161041678
It's not so much about turning your brain off as it is about not being a sperg and frodo'ing your way through a movie about high schoolers in love across time. Yes he definitely could have checked the year but then the movie wouldn't have been nearly as interesting would it?
>>161040059
All this accompanied with the most energetic upbeat generic j-rock you might find
>>161041463
Suspension of disbelief is for when things don't make sense in our world but make sense according to the rules of their world. It doesn't mean I have to accept everything presented to me.
>>161041645
> the reveal during the middle is what makes it full-blown clear to Taki
But that's where everything falls down. He should have known. There is no "but what if". The movie doesn't answer to "why" because there is not a good answer.
The are a lot of things that I can accept because of the body swap, for example how there is never any "uh, wasn't monday yesterday" situation. But not this, because it's the whole base of the drama.
It's not even a dumb twist that makes sense at first and when you think about it you stop and wonder "what the fuck".
It's not a twist on the ending that doesn't make sense when you rewatch the movie but hey it worked the first time so it's ok.
This completely fucks up the movie and remove me from my immersion. Now I am aware I am watching something.
We can't know because everything has been hidden from us, which is another problem.
>>161038906
You just assume it most of the time
Even my phone doesn't display the year unless you specifically use the clock app
>>161042036
I dunno man maybe he was just too focused on being body swapped and didn't check the date.
>>161042211
It's not only his phone. The internet, newspaper, televsion, his friends, sport games, what videogame comes out, movies, music. It's impossible to live the same year twice and not notice it.
>>161041913
As I pointed out in another post, its obvious Kimi no Na wa expects you to just accept some very outrageous things.
One person can see them encountering each other on train near the end as a wonderful moment of coincidence while another may think "Tokyo is a pretty big city, that seems kind of implausible". That difference in interpretation can be the driving point between a very moving ending to a pretty boring one. Its nothing about being a sperg at all. The entire movie was like that for me, starting from the point where they fall in love with each other where I thought, "How can they fall in love if they never even met?"
>>161039431
Really makes me wonder if watching this first or watching 5cm/s first would make whatever you watch second hit harder.
I mean 5cm/s was bad enough but imagine watching this first and then going into 5/cm with the full expectation that they would meet, rather than watching 5cm/s first and being pleasantly surprised by the Kimi no na wa ending.
>>161041918
ZEN ZEN ZENSE
You guys keep forgetting they don't have perfect memories of what their bodyswap experiences. It's explicitly described as "dreamlike" and "hazy", and it's made clear during multiple points that they both have extreme difficulty recalling "everyday events" they lived while swapped.
You're just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking and looking too much into the movie.
>>161042314
I'm sorry that this anime movie about love sustained by cosmic magic isn't realistic enough for you.
>>161042314
>One person can see them encountering each other on train near the end as a wonderful moment of coincidence
See, for example this I would believe given what we were told in the anime. Red string and shit, a lucky meeting in Tokyo would be believable.
>>161042456
And this instead is the wrong use of suspension of disbelief.
>>161042456
>cosmic magic
It isn't even that, the meteor does nothing but explode the town apart.
>>161042036
How does it debase the drama if the film intentionally wanted Taki to not realize the 3-year difference until that chosen point? The 3-year difference reveal had to enforce Taki's fear that he was switching bodies with someone long gone who no longer exists, and starts the suspicion that he was "dreaming" the whole time like the Granny suggests. The reveal being set at that exact point of finding the missing town works because it reflects the feeling of how the unexpected pops out in people's lives through the strangest ways, even if the person thought he knew everything beforehand. The fact was that the conflict in the film shows itself and the character has to work towards the resolution. The suspense starts from there and builds from there with full purpose.
I am not saying that the twist should shock every viewer's pants like it's the most magnificent thing or whatever, but it does fulfill what was intentionally meant to happen, and it wasn't done cheaply or for mere shock effect because it does make the audience think back on the film so far due to the 3-years difference. If it didn't immerse you, that's fine, but it doesn't have to show anything more than what it wanted to show.
I think we can all agree Mitsuha should've followed present-day Taki from the train, abducted him and raped him in some backalley instead of giving up so easily
Goddamnit if only I could draw I'd make this doujin, an extremely lewd near-yandere level Mitsuha can't take it anyone, goes out to find Taki, and won't take no for an answer
>>161042557
Because it's not only Taki, it's also the girl.
Because they write shit down.
It's simply not believable. And, again, it ruins the movie, because then the drama feels artificially constructed.
And the movie can't decide "well, he doesn't realize". It has to be justified and believable.
I was immersed, until that twist took me out of it.
>>161027734
No it fucking didn't. Goddamn /a/, I can't believe you convinced me I was gonna watch the 2nd coming.
Jesus, how is this so damn popular?? It's not bad at all, i'd even say it's great. But not THAT great. So great it became the highest grossing film in Japan's history.mamoru hosada > shinkai
>>161042767
>mamoru hosada > shinkai
I've been watching Hosada films recently and I actually agree. Bakemono no Ko was fantastic and Summer Wars was a blast.
I need to rewatch Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo since I never finished it and I'm not exactly interested in the premise of Wolf Children but I'll watch it someday.
>>161040657
>Taki deciding not to write his name despite full well knowing she isn't going to remember him if he doesn't
This is honestly the only one there that's bad, the rest have precedent in the Musubi or whatever fucking with their memories all film. Him doing anything other than writing his name however just made him seem like a retard and not only was it incredibly plot convenient, but it pretty outside of his character too.
>>161042767
Hosada gave us the best tomboy of all time so I have to agree
>>161042865
Please watch it anon, it's my favorite Mamoru.
I liked the movie. Don't know why /a/ likes to be so contrarian about it.
>>161042934
I will, anon.
But the idea of watching a college slut fucking a wolf then raising his children isn't exactly appealing.
I'm usually the most pleasantly surprised by these kind of films though.
>>161042940
>contrarian
classic weak refutation to critics
Please bear with me as I have only watched the movie this week and avoided the previous discussions.
It was decent I would say, some scenes were really gripping while others sucked quite a bit.
I guess it would be medicore if not for these two tings I still cannot get over.
1. Aside all the weird plot devices like disappearing memories, drawings and texts, what I cannot get over is that it's mentioned they don't remember anything of the dream/body swap sequences and only were able to get what happened in their own world through the notes they left themselves. How come Taki is able to draw the places he visited in Mitsuha's body then? Maybe I missed something, but that's how it seemed.
2. The ending. In my opinion it's a sad ending (if I don't try to go too deep) as basically by the end they were two unrelated people meeting by chance. Since the memories are gone from the sense of the characters all the precious feelings and moments they have spent together are lost. I know it should have probably been a sweet moment for the viewer as you should be glad they were able to meet again, but as I mentioned for me it was basically different characters as I watched their romance pre-memory wipe. The timeskip also didn't help much.
Any opinion is welcome along with calling my taste shit.
>>161029460
snowballing (see gangnam style)
How fucking young are you?
>>161043027
because musubi
also you have shit taste
>>161042314
>"Tokyo is a pretty big city, that seems kind of implausible".
8 years had passed. It's not like they just woke up the next morning after the comet and found each other. Tokyo's "big" but it's a finite place, and unless we were specifically told they were on opposite sides of the entire city, it's hardly implausible that they might pass one another at least once or twice in an 8 year time period.
>>161043018
>it's shit because it appeals to people who aren't me
>criticism
>>161043027
>How come Taki is able to draw the places he visited in Mitsuha's body then
Subconscious memory? The fact that they recognised eachother at the end most likely leads to them searching those subconcious memories too, like a deja vu.
>>161043027
It wasn't sad ending. It's symbolising victory of the love against time and stuff.
>>161042745
Is it really that hard to believe both Taki and Mitsuha did not get exposed enough of the other timelines to realize the year-gap? Their memories were too focused on the fun moments they had, and they only wrote down things they wanted the other to read once they return back to their proper selves and not in their vaguely-remembered other's self.
With regards to having the characters realize the year gap before the big reveal, the film doesn't outright say Taki was from 2016 and Mitsuha was from 2013. The audience is not exposed to that fact outright until the big reveal occurs (there were some subtle hints, but not enough to make a conclusion without realizing what each other means by certain clues that lead to the big reveal anyway, like "comet?") and the best time to for the audience to know was definitely during the reveal. It questions the notion of fate in not pre-determining one timeline, but also multiple timelines to conjoin at certain points and even separate further apart. It felt believable because Taki is focused on what he can do in face of such a predicament, which is a reflection of disaster victims who feel pressured by reality to accept their losses and move on, yet development occurs to convey the film's message of striving for what one wants instead.
>>161043274
Someone post the timeline analysis some /a/non made that determined the entire bodyswapping events take place in bit under a month, and after that's it's 8 years for Mitsuha and 5 for Taki til they meet each other at the ending
>>161043163
>>161043101
Hmm, I guess these make sense. Maybe I was just too autistic about that and it should not have been taken literally. I still don't like it.
>>161043249
Well, I only stated my opinion and honestly I'm not going to change how I feel about it easily. I was just wondering if anyone else felt like that too.
>>161043274
Another thing is that Mitsuha lived in the sticks and Taki lived in Tokyo. To Taki it probably felt like he was going back in time, and to Mitsuha it probably felt like she was in the future. Probably why they didn't notice any changes in technology or movies and stuff.
>>161043027
It's not a sad ending because it was the moment where Taki and Mitsuha finally develop their relationship through a realistic, interactive approach rather than the fictional elements of the bodyswap where they never really met each other completely. Their memories of those youthful experiences are gone so that this new interaction feels like a "soft restart", but they know that they've known each other a bit and want to know more with each other face-to-face rather than back-to-back like bodyswapping was. The audience is left to interpret how their relationship will go on from that point, which is fine because all that matters is that they finally meet at last and embrace each other.
>>161038706
Well not like she had a choice, even if she attempted to get a bf it wouldnt feel fake and empty and she was always longing for another person. She was miserable and depressed for the last 8 years, same with Taki. Its why they boy cry tears of relief/joy when they finnaly meet.
>>161043027
>How come Taki is able to draw the places he visited in Mitsuha's body then? Maybe I missed something, but that's how it seemed.
It took him a long time to remember just those and draw them.
It actually makes a lot of sense considering he was an architect that the landmarks and buildings would be pretty one of the main things he remembered over everything else.
>>161043135
>bad writing is the appeal
>the movie's appeal makes it immune to criticism
Is it weird that I don't really have any favorite movies and find it hard to rate and think critically of films?
Your name had some funny moments, pretty visuals and it got exciting a couple of times towards the end but I can't say I loved it or disliked it.
For fuck's sake, a shinto god was altering reality to get Taki and Mitsuha to do what they needed to save the people of the town it was guardian of. It fucked with their memories and even deleted everything Mitsuha ever wrote in Taki's phone. Is it really so hard to believe it kept them from realizing that they were in different years?
>>161043513
That was what I meant by "waiting": Mitsuha didn't just go the inferior route of settling down with just any boyfriend and calling it love just because it feels like it's better than nothing. Mitsuha knew there was something out there that truly was love, and wants to find THE one soulmate to spend her life with which was lonely without him. She truly did waited while living her life like a proper growing adult.
>>161029460
You have to have feelings to understand it tin man.
>>161043559
Yeah thats some lazy shit
>>161038487
Nice
>>161043486
Not to mention Mitsuha has known the event for about 8 years while Taki only 5, maybe more memories came back to her during that length of time (hence her figuring it out and crying)
Just watched it again at the cinema and noticed some details that can only be appreciated fully on rewatch, for example during the date with Okudera when Taki watches a painting of Itomori.
>>161040502
>>161043739
But anon that's a major plot point you're supposed to notice the first time and go "OH SHIT THERE IT IS"
>>161041676
Shitkai literally made her character using as much fetishes as he can for pandering to his retarded otaku audience
>–After the Miko mai scene, the scene with Kuchikami sake follows…this scene gave me a big shock in a good way. There is a sort of fetishism in there.
>You’re right. That was a hidden fetish factor. I personally wanted to express something like that. In The Garden of Words, I created the scene where feet are being touched for the same reason…I wanted to include some fetish factors that people get a bit of excitement from. It’s just like that this time. I claimed my right to include at least one fetish part (lol). It’s not necessarily obvious…some are academic and others could be indicated in a subtle way hidden behind the story…(lol) Hopefully, people also feel their heart skips a beat.
https://manga.tokyo/report/interview-with-makoto-shinkai-director-of-kimi-no-na-wa/
Miyazaki was right
>>161043649
Yeah and thats why shes great.
>>161043739
- Taki goes to the art gallery and visits the exhibit, titled 'Nostalgia' (it's basically a memorial)
- Mitsuha has an iPhone 5, Taki has an iPhone 7
- The calendar dates are messed up causing Mitsuha to dress for school on a weekend
Anybody else feel like the pantsu shot was out of place?
>>161043888
>not having a kuchikamisake fetish in the first place
Shinkai knows to please the right humans. It's the ultimate pleb filter.
>>161037541
>>161037709
>>161037730
>>161038546
>>161038660
>>161038706
>>161038583
>>161038620
Fuck, this is 1st time ive been so in love with an anime girl. Always used to shake my head at the whole waifu bs but damn it Mitsuha is the fucking best.
>>161044072
Mitsuha is Taki-only, mate. Go out there and find your own Mitsuha.
>>161043888
Thank you based Shinkai
Daily reminder that Hosoda would have pulled same concept miles better
>>161043986
There was a pantsu shot?
>>161044072
It was bound to happen at some point, but remember, 2D girls can never love you back. You must find your own Mitsuha in the world of 3D.
>>161044158
The one where she's on the bike. Felt really awkward.
>>161043559
Well depends, can you at least say you liked certain movies? can you at least say "it's good", "it's bad" about a something?
>>161044102
Taki is me(you) from and alternate universe.
>>161044171
Hopefully we all have our own Mitsuha's, this movie feels like one explanation of love at 1st sight and if thats the case then my Mitsuha is long outta my reach.
>>161044171
>3DPD
16chan when?
>>161043888
>that was a hidden fetish factor
Didn't the cool girls make that obvious when they say they wouldn't be able to do something like that? I think the cum implications were as obvious as possible without someone flat out saying so.
>>161044324
Love at first sight is bullshit. Taki and Mitsuha started to fall in love without even meeting each other face to face because they spent time learning about one another's lives and helping each other.
>>161043888
Except he clearly states there that it's the opposite, he character was made and he fetish thing came after. It's literally an afterthought he made the scene and then thought "wow lol someone out there is probably going to get off to this"
Not ike Jun Madea who said the only reason he included those girls beating the shit out of the Charlotte girl was because he was that people were into it on 2ch.
>>161044369
>Year of our Lord 2017
>still using terms like "3DPD" unironically
>>161044249
Yes there are movies that I like but I don't know anything about actually criticizing them. Most movies just make me feel empty because it was a 90-120 minute experience to get invested in that most often neatly wraps up.
>>161044521
Try reddit if you don't like it.
>>161044454
Yeah and in the end they forgot about all that but still retain their feelings.
I just saw it today. It was an alright movie, but I don't think it was better than say the Tamako movie. It's a love story with a plot that allows some nice visuals.
>>161044526
I think it's normal then, it was like that for me as well. Even now I don't bother about actually criticize movies, only when it really bothers me.
dayone!
>>161044593
They clearly didn't forget about all of it, otherwise they wouldn't have recognized each other and Taki wouldn't have reacted like he did to hearing Tessie's name in that cafe. Everything they experienced is still there in the subconscious.
>>161045386
Strings are broken and reconnected after all.
>>161043027
The ending is specifically a happy ending because they managed to meet up. Really, its all a justification for the red string of fate concept, of love at first sight.
In the end if you didn't think this was the best shit ever you're an emotionless subhuman autist, case closed.
>>161047393
>>>/mal/
I just saw it last week. I didn't know anything at all about it other than the fact that it was a Shinkai film, so the fantasy elements actually caught me off guard. I also want to say that I 100% went into this film wanting to enjoy it.
I thought the character designs and art style were very pretty. It was one of the best looking things I've seen in a while.
I also really enjoyed the plot for maybe the first half or so of the movie. When he visits the high school and looks at the meteor lake, I thought up until all of that it was good. However, I think it gradually gets worse from there. I think it spent too much time actually focused on avoiding the meteor impact. Like, it wasn't super interesting and it just dragged on. I wanted to see what would happen to the characters relationship with each other, everything else was just filler. Though halfway through that part it had the scene on the mountain ridge, which I really enjoyed as well. Even after she got saved, I think it still dragged on too much towards the end.
Overall I thought it was good. Not amazing, not the best Anime to ever be created, but good. If someone said it was their favorite Shinkai film I wouldn't argue with them, even though I think I liked Garden of Words better, and thematically i liked 5 cm per second better.
Also, looking back on it, there were a lot of weird plot elements that don't make any sense, but those didn't affect my enjoy of the film so I didn't really think about it, and it's not really a big deal since it's all dream magic and musubi anyways.
Good think I saw it at the cinema twice (yesterday was the second time, actually) manny scenes absolutely require a good sound system and a good screen
>>161049037
yeah saw it first day here in mexico cant love it more it was amazing and the cinema really gives another feel
>>161049305
Oh hey, I did that too.it fucking disappointed me more than my wifes son
>>161049467
cucks don't deserve happiness
Which release has karaoke subs for the songs? Beatrice and Nii-sama don't have it.
>doesn't pass within the Earth's Roche Limit
>continues to completely split
>similar event happened almost in the exact same manner one thousand years ago in very similar region
even assuming the surface area of the earth can be mapped as a continuous uniform probability distribution for the location of impact, who the FUCK thought this was good writing?
>>161052143
That shit triggered my astronomy autism as well.
Not to mention the size of that meteor would have obliterated much, much more than a few miles.
>>161052143
I looked on wikipedia it said comets can split from other things.
>>161052143
>>161052484
anons, there is also time travel and body swap, it's not exactly the kind of movie you watch for its scientific accuracy.
question, what was the deity grandma mentioned while the girls and her were heading to the cave?
>>161028156
>soundtrack:6
Shit taste
>>161053976
Easily one of the weakest things in the movie
>>161052143
The meteor directly impacts Mitsuha's house, out of all the places it could've hit. Musubi was pretty obviously fed up with that family and gave them one last chance to get this right.
>>161053909
She called it musubi
>>161054227
just musubi? are we talking the one little sis says is "very famous" since mitsuha didn't know?
>>161027734
I'm stupid, didn't get the plot of the movie. It's too deep 4 me.
I dunno if Im supposed to cry
>>161054539
I don't remember anything about it being called famous since it was just one random little shrine in a random little town nobody cared about.
>>161054726
perhaps it read like that in the subs i read
>>161054587
What
There's nothing to get, are you thick mate?
just watched this shit
>light hearted as fuck
>expecting some mid movie drama in the form of sabotaging potential partners out of jealousy
>mfw everybody fucking dies
pretty good
>>161052143
I think you might be autistic
It did not.
>>161028156
meh
>>161053909
>>161054539
In that scene she is talking about the fire of the town that burned down the records. In the beginning she talked about some guy a couple hundred years prior whose house caught fire and caused a big fire in the town burning down the records of why they traditions are carried out. This was while Mitsuha was herself.
The name of the great fire was called Mayugoro, named after the guy whose house started the fire (and apparently died in it).
Later when they're going up the mountain Grandma mentions the name again, but since Taki is in her body at that point, he doesn't know what she's talking about. Taki asked what grandma is talking about and imouto is surprised that Taki doesn't know because it's a famous fire and name in the town.
Basically it's unimportant.
>>161031020
>shinkai
>overrated
kys
>>161058747
that clears it up. thanks
>>161040032
>dat voice acting tho
it was a good film, certainly more nuanced but you shouldn't discount kimi no na wa because of the mass market appeal
>>161058856
This
Nobody thinks Shinkai is a good director
>>161059133
nigga you retarded or some shit
I'm literally saying the opposite he's a good director but this film was lackluster and cheesy(his other works are far superior)
>>161059249
I hope you're right since this was my 1st movie by him and I am incredibly, incredibly disappointed.
I'm going to have to wash my mouth with some 5cm which seems to be agreed that it's his best.
>>161059249
autism
>>161042095
literally every post on 4chan shows the year. Literally your PC clock does. Literally news papers do it.
>le "turn your mind off and enjoy the teen romance movie" movie
>>161060465
And now many normie Japanese teenagers do you think post on 4chan or read newspapers?
>>161060588
Kinda required you to use your mind quite a bit, it's not like even the body swapping was simple since it also had some kind of time travel aspect to it.
>>161061284
>normie
Why are people on /a/ defending shit writing? It's fine that you enjoyed a movie based on visuals and fetish alone. No one is going to judge you on that.
>>161063036
You're complaining about a movie in which shinto musubi magic is used to induce a dreamlike time travel body swap between two teenagers in order to save a random mountain village.
>>161063036
>UGH UHH, why isn't everyone mindlessly calling it shit like me? Why can't they jsut agree with my utterly stupid opinion?! How dare they dare to counter it!
>>161063486
You're cancer. Suspect either of a low intelligence quotient or of certain age. Might even be a hybrid.
>>161063484
?
>>161063450
Who are you quoting?
Did anyone here import the BD's, how are the subs? Considering getting the special LE.
>>161064153
Not the best subs but they won't completely ruin the experience. I recommend getting the Collector's Edition for the additional event footage, Shinkai lecture, and the script book. Plus the sweet digipack and 4K. Worth the additional bucks.
>>161027734
>>161064288
>4k
upscale
>>161064408
It still looks lovely, especially the night scenes. Even then, it's worth it for the rest of the included novelties.
>>161064566
>it still looks lovely
Are you literally a shill? Holy shit.
>>161064600
I actually do own the 4K and I'm giving my honest opinion to the anon considering to buy a version. You're free to tell him why not if you want, I don't really care.
>>161064288
Is that the one that cost 12,000 en?
>>161064860
It's the one with the unique 6-sided digipack and 5 discs. The digipack looks better for display than the special edition pack (which is just the 3 key visual posters) and also keeps the discs safe when closed together with the protagonists staring at each other. The pricing is not a far stretch from the special edition's if you consider the additional footage from the 3rd bonus disc.
Watching it for the second time, that scene in the beginning where the kids are passively complaining about their absolutely idyllic boring little town kills me almost as much as the end. So unbelievably beautiful. Fucking masterpiece
>>161037285
I don't know why but I want to eat breakfast with Yotsuha
>>161065410
I really liked when Taki spent the day as Mitsuha going to give the offering for that reason. Mitsuha and her friends hate their boring little town, but for Taki it's an incredible experience.
>>161064721
>I actually do own the upscale
I never claimed you didn't.
>>161065653
Alright, sorry about that. I'll admit that the 4K being an upscale was disappointing at first since I preordered before knowing the fact, but so far I haven't regretted owning the Collector's set.
>>161043609
Underrated post.
>>161027734
True.
>>161043609
>>161066113
You honestly think those two things are comparable at all don't you?
>koe no katashit fags in this thread still being buttblasted by the popularity, sales and superior writing
Feels good to be a Kimi no Nawa fag, lads.
>>161029460
you aren't Japanese. you wouldn't get it
>>161065035
Yeah I think that was the one I was considering buying. Thanks for the tip anon
>>161040657
>encountering each other on the train post-timeskip
My cousin married her elementary school friend, who she had no contact with for 15 years and was working abroad in Japan. They met by pure coincidence when the dude was staying here a few days for his job.
Chance meeting do happens, it's silly to get triggered by it.
>>161054587
>Guy wants to a girl in a small town
>Girl wants to be a guy in a big town
>Magic happens, guy and girl switch bodies
>There's a meteor shower in the small town
>Turns out the girl and guy aren't just separated by space but also by time
>Guy exists in a future where the girl and the small town were wiped out by a fuck-you sized space rock.
>Girl exists in a past where it hasn't happened yet
>After realizing this they set out to prevent the destruction
>They have trouble remembering each other but end up meeting in the new timeline they created where she isn't dead
>>161043888
What a fookin legend. Have to watch Garden of Words now, if it really involves feet.
>>161044072
>Mitsuha is the fucking best
She is prettygeneric, my man.
>>161067016
the generic factor makes her that much better you pleb
>>161031020
>It's a Shinkai
Exactly, it's shit
what the hell
The 4k is just an upscale? We're getting pixelated shit?
Fuuuuck you, Japan
>>161067848
It still looks good (just like your own upscale would look good, maybe a bit worse because studios can't into upscaling algorithms).
What it means though is that you are paying more and getting the same shit.
>>161067016
Cute normal girls are always the best.
>>161037285
>>161065476
Yotsuha most underrated imouto
>>161065614
That scene also deserves all the awards. Pure fucking magic. Though I kinda felt sad that Taki got to experience it instead of her.
But that quiet, idyllic town, the content and carefree music, and then the sound of children needing to see a bigger world... it brought me to tears when I watched it again, that first scene
Just go watch it at 10:33, it's simply art
>>161028156
>characters: 8
>character development: 9
>story: 9
>>>>/trash/
>>161069437
>yotsuha is like 18 in the present time
bit jarring, seeing her grow up so immediately
>>161052143
>>161052484
What part of Shinto magic don't you people get?
The gods are fucking with them.
>>161065410
Just thing of all the amazing things in your life that you take for granted.
People crave novelty - it's what keeps us moving forward.