Not 1, but 2(TWO) Naruto ripoffs are being published in Jump RIGHT NOW and are immensely popular
If it makes you feel better, I agree. But tears in the rain bro
>>160971613
BNHA is nothing like Naruto
>>160971613
As long as One Piece and Nanatsu no Taizai exist, it doesn't matter if there's any other good one or not.
>>160971679
Really are you sure, both were looked down on in their childhood by their soon to be rival, then met that rival again at a school that teaches you how to use your super power taught by a staff that is aware of the main character's true potential and want to make sure he doesn't hurt himself or others with it . I can go on
>>160971960
it's almost like you've read any battle shounen before
>>160971960
That's a big stretch. The academia was a focus of BNHA. Naruto graduated from his after CH1. That and more.
>>160971709
Not 1, but 2(TWO) Dragon Ball ripoffs.
G-R-E-A-T
>>160971960
Naruto wasn't looked down by sasuke. Only all might and Gran Torino help teach deku.
>>160971679
You'd almost have to be delusional not to see the obvious similarities.
>>160971960
so Harry Potter is Naruto eh?
>>160972303
Such as?
All anyone can ever bring up is the "rivalry" which is in every single shonen ever like this guy >>160971960
>>160971613
Well both artist are admitted naruto fan boys, you can't really blame them.
I'm just surprised that both works are far worse then naruto, they had all this time to improve on the plot elements they copy and they somehow manage to execute them worse.
genius vs the underdog always comes to mind.
>>160971960
>what are archetypes
>>160973342
>Well both artist are admitted naruto fan boys, you can't really blame them.
Only Horikoshi has but he's stated that he's a big fan of One Piece and Dragonball. Tabata outright stated that Bleach was a huge influence on him.
>I'm just surprised that both works are far worse then naruto
Not even close.
>>160973668
Compare the villain invasion of Naruto to BNHA. NAruto's has tension, consequences for the story, significant characters dying, no plot armor. BNHA's is a fucking joke with a manchild villain, "I punch you harder to win!!" All Might vs Nomu and teenagers who barely started training beating villains and escaping unscathed.
>Black Clover so irrelevant no one is arguing it
i couldnt get passed episode 50 of shippuden from all the fucking drawn out bullshit and every fight taking 20 episodes because each powerup and attack is an episode in itself.
The pacing of bnha is fucking perfection by comparison, this series moves quick and doesnt dwell on bullshit. They knocked out the stain fight in two episodes, that would have been a 12 episode shitfest in naruto.
Also I actually like the main character because he actually MOVED ON from the depression stage and doesnt run around crying about his childhood friend being mean to him for fucking 300 episodes.
>>160973798
>anime only shitter
>>160973798
Naruto has plenty of plot armour.
>>160973798
>NAruto's has tension,
>Only two battles shown
>One even had the zombie bullshit from later parts that had no point other than cheap fanservice
>consequences for the story
Like?
>significant characters dying
The only death was the generic old dude who had barely any screentime up until that pointand was going to kick the bucket anyways, his sacrifice is rendered pointless since the villain unfucked his arms latter on
>no plot armor
KEK
>>160974015
So do all shounen, it's like a staple in the genre and nothing worth complaining about.
>>160973841
Black Clover is a boring mix of the most generic aspects of Fairy Tail and Naruto. The result is so bad that we don't even have threads for this shit.
BnHA is more like KHR.
>>160974181
Thank God no
>>160971960
>Bakugou
>Rival
That's Todoroki. Bakugou can't even scratch Deku anymore.
Bakugou was just a hurdle and Deku is beyond him.
>>160973798
>first arc featuring antagonists vs a major climax near the end of a series
Are you actually retarded?
>>160974375
Bakugou beat Deku's ass in a 1v1 pretty recently
>>160974453
t. Bakufujo
>>160971960
Good job stopping at the point where similarities end. If anything, BnHA is Naruto done right, they both use more or less similar tropes, but every single one so far is executed better by Horikoshi.
>>160974265
>weak MCs that were given some power that they have to learn to control
>one teacher is the greatest assassin in the world and the other is the greatest hero in the world
>one is being taught to take over for the mafia family and the other is being taught to take over for the main hero as the symbol of hope
They still different, but the main story beats are similar.
>>160974727
The main difference is that Deku wants to be a hero while Tsuna never wanted to be the mafia leader.
>>160974727
>weak MCs that were given some power that they have to learn to control
The Dying Will Bullet was just a gag "instant win" button that the series never treated as something he needed to control.
>one teacher is the greatest assassin in the world and the other is the greatest hero in the world
All Might is the 1# hero in Japan
>one is being taught to take over for the mafia family and the other is being taught to take over for the main hero as the symbol of hope
This is stretching it a lot especially since they're not even the same fucking thing
>>160974860
>All Might is the 1# hero in Japan
No he isn't.
>>160971613
>Literally the only time Black Clover is bought up is when people wanna give examples of how shit shounen is
The anime can't come soon enough.
The threads a gonna be another level of shitposting yet unseen boy this board.
I have never seen so many people unanimously agree that something is THIS bad on /a/ before
>>160971613
>immensely popular
No, they aren't. That's why shounen is dead. Shueisha has to suck Oda's cock and gave a truck full of money to Toriyama for staying in business
>>160974935
The raking system only extends to Japan we dont know how he ranks in America or anywhere els
>>160975046
Yeah I sure can't wait for people to NOT talk about it the same way people DIDN'T talk about Twin Star Exorcist and Kingdom
>>160975484
>Kingdom
I will never get how something that became so popular and wasn't even able to scratch the west.
Im so gald we are on the right side of the world.
>>160975854
I think its more of a slap to a face that two seasons couldn't pick up sales of the manga but a popular talk show did
>>160973798
>NAruto's has tension, consequences for the story, significant characters dying, no plot armor
Kakashi literally died, just to get back to life like 5 chapters later.
>>160972135
Neither is anything like db
>>160971613
>Jump
Who the fuck cares? It's not like they're shouldering out anything actually good.
>>160971613
Fucking shit naruto clone, boruto million better then this shit
>>160971960
>chool that teaches you how to use your super power taught by a staff that is aware of the main character's true potential and want to make sure he doesn't hurt himself or others with it
Pokemon?
>>160973841
But jump push it become big shonen just wait anime you will cry with joy
>>160976159
>Neither is anything like db
there are powers, bad guys and lots of screaming
>>160973798
>consequences
like a World war arc where 1 character died
>>160976477
Everything is db clone
>>160976522
K-on is a dragon ball clone?
>>160976513
Madara dead
>>160976558
he was already dead before arc so it doesnt count
>>160976558
Bullshit, nothing can kill Madara.
>>160976600
But alien can
>>160976558
>the bad guy dies at the end of the arc
Wow, fucking revolutionary.
>>160971613
>>160975046
I think it's the first anime where /a/'s hatred of it is actually valid.
>>160976600
black wood man can
>>160976702
That just hater black clover fanbase is huge
>>160971613
Black clover is generic as fuck, I love it.
ITT: OP is a retarded among the retards.
>>160976069
He's talking about the Orochimaru, not Pain
>>160976762
Yeah i love it the fight is amazing
>>160971613
Just wait the god jutsu talk no jutsu no villain can win
>>160974453
You didnt catch the "hurdle" bait. you gotta lurk everywhere my dude.
>>160976837
That why bakugou is sasuke clone
>>160976453
>Kimetsu sells within 8k of Black Clover in 1st week with 5 less volumes
NEXT
BIG
SHONEN
>>160976862
Bakugou is more like Vegeta than like Sasuke, even if he is an edgelord he is still a good guy.
>>160976892
Just hate anon but this animated by perriot like naruto
>>160976918
Stop posting here and go back to your english classes you moron
>>160976892
Black clover is the next big project perriot have after boruto
>Naruto was a generic battle shounen
>now popular generic battle shounen are called Naruto clones
What a shame
>>160976998
Because naruto is the god of shonen genre
>>160976998
>now popular generic battle shounen are called Naruto clones
only if they have a school setting, if not they are DB/OP clones.
>>160976753
Oh look, ESL-kun showed up.
>>160976702
>every single anime /a/ has ever hated before this was good
Are you really claiming this?
>>160977063
If its not why black clover is rank 1 in toc
>>160977133
You're so cute.
>>160971613
Fucking demon
>>160971613
>Not 1, but 2(TWO)
>>160977182
https://youtu.be/uUX2Vr6Zc1g
>>160973380
Things that BNHA would do better without?
I mean, goddamn the forced rivalry came off as nonsensical and creepy as fuck.
>>160976762
>generic action shounen with swords and bad ass fist fights and magic
Good.
>>160977499
Yeah like berserk
>>160971613
>claim that battle shounen is dead
>because it is immensely popular
It is more alive than ever
>>160977531
berserk isn't shonen
It does surprise me the amount of naruto and bleach rip off that come out, yet only fairy tale can be compared to One piece. Why nobody wants to copy the best selling manga of all time?
>>160977262
Oh god SP are the ones animating it?
I didn't even know.
I also really like the fact that they tried their hardest to not have any of the goofy moments/faces that is 95% of Black Clover character interaction.
>>160971613
See, I wouldn't have a problem if the same shitters that make these threads weren't the same people sucking off Boruto for being an EXACT clone of it's predecessor.
>>160977262
>pierrot
Why shonen jump keep giving them work?
>>160977682
Boruto main villain is alien that db clone
>>160977728
their other option is toei
>>160977756
no anon, you are the alien
>>160977728
Naruto and bleach succes
>>160973798
>NAruto's has tension, consequences for the story
Name 1 important character that died during the arc war bullshit.
>>160977792
BHA is animated by bones
>>160977591
Because Fairy tale tried and it is shit
>>160977826
coolest guy
>>160977826
Neji
>>160971960
Please do go on.
>>160977531
kill yourself
>>160977792
What about madhouse?
Some people genuinely dislike BNHA, but I just can't shake the feeling that a portion of it's haters just go off what other people that they admire have said. Don't be sheep /a/. Have your own opinion.
*three
>THREE versions of Naruto running at the EXACT SAME TIME
who allowed this?
Whats with the shitskins in the thread?
>>160977941
Boruto is not naruto clone but db clone
>>160971679
the current arc is naruto 101, right down to the overuse of flashbacks.
>>160977591
If One Piece started up nowadays exactly the same then it would probably be dropped within the span of a year. People are invested in the characters and story by this point and want to see it through.
>>160977728
pierrot are cheap.
>>160977918
broke
>>160977941
Please try your damn best to explain how Boku no Hero Academia is a Naruto Clone.
>>160977988
Perriot > toei
School is the shittiest setting for a fighting shonen, this is a fact.
>>160977826
Inoichi
Shikaku
Choza
>>160977988
How is madhouse broke?
The fuck?
>>160977969
>Bhna is using flashbacks
>Naruto used flashbacks first
>therefore Bhna is a Naruto
Sasuga retard-kun
>>160978021
Naruto have kyubi
Deku have one for all
>>160978053
Nobody gives a fuck about them.
>>160978021
Its clear you're mind is already made up that isn't you delusional fanboy
>>160978054
they expend too much money on animation and nips don't buy their BD.
>>160978021
Chunin Exams
>>160977864
He wasn't even important to the plot.
>>160978103
Turnamen arc
Villain invation
All for one vs one for all
>>160977864
the most ineccesary death ever
>>160978093
>they expend too much money on animation
How? Most of their series have shit animation and OPM was mostly done by bones staff.
>>160978078
That's what they'll say about you when you die.
>>160978093
But...but...
They're the shit!
Can't they like...go join the netflix only guys?
>>160977941
Boruto is actually more enjoyable than the last 7 years of Naruto.
>>160978103
but the Chunnin exam is a rip-off of the Hunter exam from HxH, doesn't that mean both are actually HxH clones?
>>160978144
Obito
Madara
Kaguya
>>160978149
OPM was done by Bones staff?
Then what are they doing?
>>160978171
It really isn't. Nothing interesting happened so far other than edgy Hawawa.
>>160978072
One is a demon fox forced inside of Naruto at birth by nothing more than pure circumstance, resulting in sporadic influxes of chakra and strength whenever the plot armor wills it.
The other is a reward built-upon by Izuku's intense courage, hard work, and determination. Unlike being used for plot-armor like the nine-tails cloak which will never be used against the MC negatively -- Izuku suffers drawbacks from his injuries, and can no longer use his arms for combat properly following the camp raid arc.
>>160976702
I like that even the nips hate it
our brothers on 2ch are baffled by its popularity and think it's an editor push
>>160978156
madhouse hasn't been good for a long while and it has less to do with sales and budgeting and more to do with all of their talent leaving for other studios
>>160978088
Keep on believing you're any better than the rest of these sheep by preying on battle shounen fans like you're enlightened. That's the internet on easy mode, lmao; the least you can do is pretend like you have an argument
>>160978103
6/10
>>160978152
True enough.
>>160978289
>it has less to do with sales and budgeting and more to do with all of their talent leaving for other studios
Less sales means less money, less money means smaller salaries, small salaries means talent going to other studios.
>>160978326
I love battle shounen you projecting autist, not gonna waste my time arguing with a clear cut fanboy though
>>160978186
Hunter exam is more shit then chunin exam
>>160978383
Everything is naruto clone
>>160978414
you are more shit than real shit
>>160977728
Doesn't it usually work like that, studios offer to make an anime and then jump chooses which offer to take?
>>160978383
No, lmao. Boku No Hero Academia doesn't even hold a candle to Bleach, and Bleach is shit. It's simply something that's semi-enjoyable -- and arguably the last decent show SJ will ever push out before dying.
>>160971613
Very easy to parody your post desu.
>>160971613
Black Clover barely sells better than Kimetsu no Yaiba and Neverland has already surpassed it and that only has 4 volumes. Black Clover, with all its pushing and backing, can't even put up decent sales 12 VOLUMES IN.
No sales.
No following.
No future.
>>160978585
This image irrationally pisses me off
Is this really what they replaced Naruto and Bleach with?
>>160978653
>Bleach
lmao.
Naruto and boku no hero academy are actually the opposite.
Naruto is the son of a powerful character just living out his inevitable fate of becoming hokage while the guy from BNHA is a nobody.
In Naruto its all about teamwork, the village, even killing an entire clan is justified for the sake of the collective.
In BHNA there is a loose sense of cooperation and the greater good but everyone is after the fame and glory of being a top professional hero.
The similarities are only the natural overlapping of the shonen genre.
>>160978897
>Naruto is the son of a powerful character
He's an orphan whose father turns out to have been powerful.
>the guy from BNHA is a nobody
He's a guy with an unknown father. Gee, I wonder where this could be going.
>>160978414
end yourself
The author of BC is the biggest idiot on this planet. He put 3 Light Novel characters into the story and expected everyone to know who these faggots are.
>>160979092
It's one thing to be a shitty writer, it's another to make me lose any remaining trust in you as an writer all together. I can't believe people will actually continue to buy his bullshit after that. He has the capacity to do something as retarded as that again.
>>160978993
The second point was the most important desu, but you are forgetting that Naruto was genetically gifted because of his parents while the BNHA guy is the opposite, he has no natural power in a world where most are.
>>160977983
This, basically. In general, people say One Piece gets good at Arlong Park. Today, most people would have dropped it long before then and ur woumd have been cancelled. And, besides, it's a Dragon Ball 'ripoff' so why wouldn't people ripoff DB instead?
>>160976762
one of the best things i like about Black Clover is that the rival is a childhood friend, is actually competent, and treats the MC like an equal
>>160971613
Jump knew the future looked bleak, they thought they could ride the Toriko train for another 20 years but they just couldn't.
>>160978993
Naruto from the first chapter was genetically gifted. His problems with channeling chakra become non-existent in a short period of time and his only real shortcoming is his lack of variety in just. Which everyone in the series is shown to only use a handful despite Kishi stating otherwise.
Deku was so genetically unlucky that in a world where tons of people have superpowers and both his parents have them, he was one of the few without and needs to work his ass off to get one transferred to him.
The closest parallel is that neither can control their latent power which is never really an issue for Naruto.
>>160980031
He also barely appears in the manga and is a non-entity through most of it
>>160974093
>claims Naruto is good because it has no plot armour
>is called out on his bullshit
>"b-but all shounen have plot armour, it's n-not even worth bringing up lmao"
This is just a bait thread.
>>160977920
I dropped it very early because it seemed overwhelmingly generic.
I would be amazed if it were good, but it could be.
>>160980086
Has anything ever been pushed as hard as Toriko and just absolutely failed? Toriko's push was absolutely insane.
>>160980181
>generic
This word has lost all meaning hasn't it?
>>160978103
>Naruto invented tournament arcs
I just realised that kids born in 1999 are posting in this thread, right now.
>>160978897
Thing that could make BNHA better is to do some of that teamwork and co-operation.
It's fucking needed at this point.
Who cares about those narutos? Kimetsu is the next big shonen.
>>160980182
When One Piece is your only big seller, it'll make anyone desperate.
>>160980294
>Kimetsu
Who?
>>160980228
No.
>>160980182
Yeah I know.
The gaudy as fuck blue haired SSJB form was created just to help shill Toriko.
I shit you not.
>>160971613
So is every shonen for the next 20 years just gonna be called a Naruto ripoff or what? Just like how every MMO after WoW was a "WoW clone".
>>160978190
>villains die in final arc
Naruto was truly ahead of its time.
>>160978653
They needed to be replaced. Black Clover isn't up to snuff though.
>>160980344
The next big shonen for refined tastes, unlike capeshit naruto and nakama magic clover.
Even Togashi gave the mankaga his rubber blessing.
>>160980439
They could have put HxH in place of BC and I'd be happy with it. HxH's hiatuses probably prevent that from happening though.
Everything is a ripoff of Dragon Ball and Yu Yu Hakusho.
>>160978653
>Bleach
>>160980317
>When One Piece is your only big seller
What are you on about? That OVA came out in 2013, at which point they also had Kuroko, Naruto, and AssClass. Toriko wasn't even in Jump's top five.
>>160980366
I don{t know about other shonen but BnHA is totally a reskinned Naruto, just with better girls.
>>160980517
YYH isn't original either and it didn't generate copycats
>>160980453
Oh ok, a series for contrarians, gotcha.
>>160980541
The memes will never end
>>160980602
>battle shounen is dead, isn't it?
no, you are just retarded
>>160980580
No, it's a series for people with more than 89iq.Being honest, KnY is pretty good, it reminds me a lot of older shonenshit. I'm glad it's getting more popular.
>>160980517
YYH was pretty generic already by that point.
>>160980651
You shouldn't be happy about it getting more popular. More readers means more cancer and it won't be long until it has 24/7 generals like One Piece, HxH, BNHA, Naruto etc.
>Black clover haters
A hundred perfect you are all mouth breathing autists
Will Black Clover actually be popular when the anime starts? Or will it just be one of those that no one really gives a shit about but Jump refuses to acknowledge that?
>>160980761
Who gives a fuck about the fandom? I'm not autistic enough to drop a series because the fandom suddenly turns into cancer.
>>160980848
I expect the initial buzz will be decent because people will call it Naruto with Wizards, then realize it's actually Naruto with Wizards and just spend the rest of its days in a Twin Star Exorcists-tier purgatory.
>>160980602
Wish it was a meme, but some of it are honest opinions
>>160980937
is is any good besides being Naruto with wizards? I haven't heard shit about it until the anime was announced.
>>160975854
It's really that 3D animation that fucked that show from the ground up. I can't even recommend it to friends unless the anime starts all over from the beginning. Over here looking like Berserk 2017
>>160971960
I must have missed the arc where bakugou became an edgy bitch and joined the villains league to he could get better than deku
>>160981286
No. It's the worst parts of Naruto and Fairy Tail mixed into a bastard.
>MC's arms are destroyed, but wait until i asspull this super healing magic in less than 5 chapters
>3 people tried to kill me? Nah, they are good people and my new friends
>Villains can only scream DESPAIR and HATE
>Underdog MC has the only weapons to defeat every magic user with, KI bullshit for extra strength and demon powers
>>160981533
Sasuke was already 'better' than Naruto before he went off to join the bad guys. Bakugou is just edgy because he's edgy.
>>160976862
>he's not an emo
>he's a sperglord not an edgy emotional repression
>he acknowledges that he's strong and he's serious about that with everyone
>he did not turn to villain's hands for help
the only thing that he and Spiky hair muh family vengeance have in common is that they're not interested in girl currently at their age. Deku lost to Bakugou because like All Might said, Baku started at for example level 40, deku started at level 1, while Bakugou's only reached level 50, Deku quickly reached 30 but it's still not enough for him to win over Bakugou.
Honestly I like both Naruto and BnHA but the always comparing threads are stupid
>>160973798
10/10 QUALITY post. Shit like this is the reason I cant leave this hellhole
>>160974375
Suck Dekus dick as hard as you want, youre never going to get OfA from his sperm
So what about one piece
>>160971960
I'm guessing Naruto is the only shounen you ever read.
>>160984485
What ABOUT One Piece?
>>160984877
Naruto is masterpiece
>>160980848
People are already too hyped about BNHA to give a shit about Naruto with wizards. But then again Bleach got surprisingly popular even though Naruto was popular back then so I don't know.
>>160985130
>>160971613
I thought the bottom one was Boruto from the thumbnail
wew
>>160973798
That was the entire point of the invasion,to show Shigaraki is a dumb manchild that cant plan to save his life and expects everything to just go his way.He´s introduced as a shitty villain that will slowly become more and more dangerous.Current facepalm is more cunning and cold-headed-he has grown up a lot
>>160971960
Bakugou is probably closer to Vegeta than he is to Sasuke.
>>160984485
Not as good as Naruto
>>160971679
the mc is rock lee
Theyre all rip offs of Harry potter anyway
>>160976159
Nanatsu no Taizai is similar. Not saying it's a bad thing though.
>>160976477
Like in every battle shounen manga?
>>160989560
In what way?
I used to read BNHA until the shit head got kidnapped but is was so fucking boring so I dropped it.
I don't get why people hype this shit so much.
I know it's summer but damn mods what are you doing? just delete this thread, it's fucking bait and everyone knows.
>hurr durr manga industry is releasing a generic manga
how in the hell is BNHA a Naruto clone?
>Deku is actually intelligent compared to Naruto
>Deku didn't grew up in disparity and hatred like Naruto or Sasuke
>having a dream or aim to go towards is common for shounen manga (finding the one piece, being hokage, being the no. 1 hero)
>BNHA has way more controversy bc of its modern setting and quirck system instead of being an ninja only anime
>There's way more depth to the characters in BNHA than in Naruto which makes character development go way smother.
BNHA is just somewhat similar to the generic fighting shounen formula but no way near to be a clone.
the only valid point would be the parallels between Jiraya and All Might, but All Might plays a way bigger role than just being a teacher for Deku. he's the symbol of peace, the source of Dekus power and probably delivered half of the plot up till now.
>>160979092
>>160979284
What did Tabata do exactly?
Black Clover has Light novels?
>>160980294
>>160980453
>>160980651
>>160980896
No but the threads will turn to autism cancer.
Stop spreading it around faggot.
It will get big when when times demand it and not a second before hopefully.
>>160971613
>battle shounen is dead
Long live battle shounen!
>>160990401
Someone's been testing the waters for the past month or so, trying to rile fanbases of different series against BnHA. I can only guess what is the purpose, perhaps making it universally disliked on /a/ so that any threads will get shitposted to death like Naruto years ago.
It certainly doesn't help that /a/'s resident contrarians genuinely post in these threads, trying to show how much their little opinions matter.
I can only hope it calms down once the current season of BnHA ends.
>>160990808
All hail naruto the god of shonen
>>160971613
>>160975046
Isn't Black Clover just Fairy Tale without being filled with qt girls?
>>160991287
>>160977456
How? It makes perfect sense. Bakugou has grown up not only thinking he's the best, but everyone from teachers to his friends telling him he is. And then suddenly he's thrust into a school where there are people as talented as him, and the formerly powerless kid who use to follow him around suddenly has power that rivals his own.
>>160982323
Bakugou isn't even edgy you retard. He's just a total cunt. There is a pretty distinct difference.
>>160991366
Revenge revenge revenge kill kill kill
>>160982323
Bakugou isn't edgy, he wants to be a hero. He's just an asshole with a very big and fragile ego.
>>160991396
Revenge? On who? And everyone knows by now that the word kill for Bakugou has replaced defeat in his vocabulary.
>>160971613
>Battle Shounen is dead
>Two series are inmensely popular
Do you know how to connect 2 ideas? Autismo.
>>160978653
>Bleach
>>160991287
>"just" Fairy Tale
It's worse.
>>160991335
I remember this.
This chapter was literally the only time we have ever had a BC thread and even that devolved into talking about how shit it was and how Tabata should just fucking draw porn already.
>>160991458
Shonen is dead when naruto is end
>>160990768
You're literally afraid of /a/. Man up dude.
>>160991481
I really don't think so. BnHA has become one of my favorite anime's and manga. The best part is I didn't expect much from it at all, so when I did finally begin watching and reading it I was incredibly surprised. Plus, One Piece ain't ending anytime soon, Shonen is fine.
Toriko was a masterpiece
>>160991472
>worse
How can it get worse than the same arc reskinned over and over and over again. My god the writing was awful.The only thing I liked was Wendy.
>>160991514
Nah, I actually just like discuss the serise with people that aren't drooling retards, aka 90% of thise board.
The threads are gonna turn to shit at some point like everything else but until then you shut your whore mouth and let me waddle in denial
>>160991690
>These typos
I hate irony.
>>160977456
rivalry? there's none in particular. Bakugo was the best in school, best in the entrance exam and won the tournament. it's not even close. he just felt betrayed at first because he thought Deku didn't have any power and he tried to save him on multiple occasions. he lacks courage which makes him jealous. I think you should watch the series again and maybe read the subtitles this time. the only rivalry is between Todoroki and Deku since Todoroki didn't go all out against Bakugo, hence the Bakugo enrage. Todoroki looks down on him as Bakugo lacks the courage, which is the sole reason for Todoroki to go all out against Deku. Bakugo is easily the best because of his abnormally fast learning curve, talent and the diverse usage of his quirk. the problem is he doesn't have any other purpose or drive to be a hero other than being the best and look down to people. he lacks the charisma that All Might, Stain, Endevar, Todoroki or Deku has.
>>160973968
Kill yourself anime fag. One of those shows has filler
>>160992756
t. Bakufujo
>>160991182
Ow shit, a redhead. Gonna give this shit another try.
>>160980651
Guess that's why Togashi likes it
This bait thread is still up?
I hate you, /a/.
>>160993225
She barely ever shows up
Also stop trying to make it seem like Bakugo isn't retarded compared to Sasuke. You're being a fan boy at that point. Just stop comparing them you don't look stupid
One person had his entire family killed and the other dude is just a dick
>>160991481
you mean shonenshit
>>160993819
Having you entire family killed isn't an excuse to be a dick.
>>160984485
Not to shonin-shit generic as Naruto
nah, shonen is still safe and good for the next 8-12 years
>>160993819
sasuke
-2cool4skool
-cuts off everyone who wanted to be with him
-i must be the ultimate stronk
bakugou
-child bully who learns he isn't all that
-angry because he sees in the mc what he doesnt see in himself
>>160976159
you are blind, then.
>>160994334
Sasuke wasn't a dick until the Gaara arc. Before that arc he did nice shit in the manga frequently.
Also that's not the point. Sasuke and Bakugo aren't even the same type of character.
Hence my point Sasuke wasn't a dick until the Gaara arc.
Before that a he did shit like admonish Sakura, feed naruto, protect Sakura, protect Naruto, etc
I understand it's been a good 10 years plus since the original manga or anime but come on.
Compare Sasuke to Kurapika at least.
Bakugou actually looks retarded because your comparing a kid in a modern society with heroes who's just a bully with an emotionally unstable in a weird ninja mix feudal society setting where their version own heroes are merch that are trained to kill
>>160994503
Are you BNHA fans actually autistic? Sasuke got his family murdered and mind raped to relive the event. Then he got fucked up by Itachi later on which spurred him being a dick to Naruto and Sakura
>>160974860
>The Dying Will Bullet was just a gag "instant win" button that the series never treated as something he needed to control.
Yeah, but the Dying Will Flame are
>All Might is the 1# hero in Japan
Still a number one, the fact that maybe he just the best in Japan doesn't change the cact tha he a number 1
>This is stretching it a lot especially since they're not even the same fucking thing
Both are being taught to be number one
>>160993819
Oh shit Sasukefag is back.
I didn't you get blow out enough the first time?
>>160994844
I haven't been on a in like months and when I am it's for non Nardo shit so lmao
>>160994664
Look if you really want to compare characters maybe you should try focusing on who they are as opposed to whats happened to them
>>160989820
naruto changed screaming to crying
>>160994972
>Proving my point
It's almost to easy.
>>160995058
Things that happen to you help form who you are. Along with a setting that provides context to the character
Ex:
things that Sasuke can get away with are far more heinous then things that Bakugou can do
And I don't want compare them. I think Bakugo is fine and that him and Sauce are drastically different outside of being rivals and being dicks at some point in their lives
>>160993219
k then
H-how about World Trigger, g-guys?
>>160992756
>Bakugou
>No courage
Where the fuck are you getting this from? Where did he display any lack of courage? Sure he isn't an absolute madman like Deku, jumping in at everything, but he also doesn't piss off at every corner. More like he barely had any oppurtunity to actually act against a threat.
Also there is a clear rivalry between Bakugou and Deku. They both want to come out on top of each other.
What is better, being shit on by everyone like Black Clover or being not talked ever about like pic related
>>160971613
bnha was trash garbage, people just can't come up with any new concepts nowadays.
>>160977941
>>160977968
Boruto is just Naruto part 3 don't be autistic
I bet you guys also consider one piece two different shows
>>160995635
AssClass was new, but garbage anyway. Originality is bullshit, development is the only thing that matters.
>>160995617
I think you misunderstood me. I'm a foreigner to English so sorry for that.
what I mean is the rivalry between Deku and Bakugo isn't necessarily balanced. Bakugo is better in almost everything than Deku. there's no doubt he's the strongest in his class (physically and mentally bc Todoroki crumbled in the finals. also Deku admitted himself that Bakugo is way better than him) and there's no real rivalry left if one side dominates the other so hard. yes, they wanna top each other off but Deku needs to get a lot stronger for that to really call it a rivalry.
yes, Bakugo didn't have much screen time to show off his "courage" but considering what happened up till now and also how Bakugo reacts to Dekus courage just underlines my argument and his cunt like behaviour.
>>160978993
Deku's dad is some wagecuck overseas that can breath some fire.
>>160994813
>Yeah, but the Dying Will Flame are
Which is something everyone has
>Still a number one, the fact that maybe he just the best in Japan doesn't change the cact tha he a number
Actually it does. You're just grasping for straws looking for similarities when there's none.
>>160973342
>shonen author
>improving
Name one that actually became a better writer as time went on.
>>160995908
>there's no doubt he's the strongest in his class
Except for the fact that the manga says otherwise also he's a wreck mentality not even sure how you can even say that shit. Anyways we already know from the beginning that Deku will become the greatest hero its not even up to debate its essentially how he gets to that point that matters,
>>160994813
In Reborn everyone has a Dying Will Flame. In MHA only Deku has OFA.
The rest aren't even worth arguing over that's just you arguing over semantics. An MC being trained by a former champ is the oldest trope to man and not something exclusive to Reborn AT ALL.
I miss when we could dubs post Naruto threads into the ground. Fucking moot. I think allowing them really did lower post quality overall.
>>160996087
That elite part is more in regards to his background. Although his skill is still great as well.
>>160995908
I don't how a big difference in skill is an argument against rivalry. Especially since Deku is a fast learner too. It's not like Bakugou is way ahead from Deku and Todoroki either. He won against Todoroki mainly because the latter didn't use half his power. And his matches against Deku weren't entirely one-sided either.
>>160991593
i agree on every level
>>160976522
DB has a lot of Zamasu clones.
>>160978600
Why the fuck are you so upset about it then? Is it because shitty neverland will never get an anime?
I don't know why anons compare Deku to Naruto as characters, when Deku is infinitely more similar to another Naruto character which is Rock Lee.
>both lack talent or advantageous genetics
>both were born without the ability ton use something that most others can (chakra/quirks)
>both heavily stress the power of hard work and have to train hard to improve
>both have power ups that increase their physical strength
>both cause physical harm to themselves by using said power ups
>both dress in the colour green
>both have loud and charismatic teacher/father figures who also stress the value of hard work
>both cry alot
They are literally the same character
>>160996616
nope,lee isnt a crybaby like deku
>>160996414
>state nothing but facts that can be back up with evidence
>urgh y u upset
>>160996755
>lee isnt a crybaby
>>160996794
compare it to the unlimited no of times deku cried and for absolutely no reason whatsoever
heck,a random stranger would pat him on the back and deku would start crying
>>160996087
you seriously think being an elite means being the best? Todoroki is one of the best with Bakugo but he still lost to him. what I ment by saying
>mentally and physically strongest
is that Todoroki doesn't have the mindset to fight seriously with his 2nd quirk. If you want o be the best, you need to be decisive and use all your skill set to take on your opponent. Eraser head or all might said something similar to this. by this definition, Todoroki is mentally weaker than Bakugo, who went all out against his opponent with no fear of injuring Todoroki. being a hero means to fight to the death if needed. his mentality is not a wreck at all. it's his personality what holds him down. remember: Deku and Bakugo have the same mentality more or less because they have the same dream of becoming the number 1 hero.
>>160996294
there's a huge gap considering Deku has his quirk for not even a year. he barely learned how to fight without injuring himself and can only use 5% of his strength. I don't think Deku could stand a chance against Bakugo with his full cowl. it just comes down to personal opinions I guess.
as we all know it's not about the finish line, it's more about how we get there
man you boku fags really must have been triggered by being btfo with your shit manga in the opm or bnha threads to start bashing on black clover to hide your insecurities
just give up,your favourite manga is boring and generic not to mention chock full of cliches
>>160997033
Lee literally cries every time he appears to the point where its treated as a running gag. What the fuck are you talking about? Do you just love being proven wrong constantly?
>>160996414
>he really believes this
>BNHA
>being ANYTHING like Naruto
Please.
>>160978600
Don't worry, the anime will save Black Clover. At least that's what Shonen Jump hopes.
>>160997131
>internet turf wars
Ah, newfags.
>>160997201
seriously?
you i both know that happened,if you want you can check the archive
calling someone a newfag just to hide the truth is really childish of you
also,it means you have no rebuke and what i said true
>>160997342
meant for >>160997255
>>160997124
>you seriously think being an elite means being the best?
Uh...yeah? That means you're the best of among the best hence the title. Todoroki is the only one praised as the strongest in Class 1-A Bakugou isn't.
>but he still lost to him. what I ment by saying
You mean the fight he threw himself?
>is that Todoroki doesn't have the mindset to fight seriously with his 2nd quirk.
Except he did you dumbfuck against Deku. What the fuck are you even on about? Bakugou was literally willing to fail his exam because he had to work with Deku and his reason for hating on him is based on his own warped mentality that he got from a very young age while Todoroki suffered trauma from what came about with his mother and his hatred of his father.
>Deku and Bakugo have the same mentality more or less
No they don't. Bakugou was willing to throw everything away in the end of the term exam if it meant he couldn't win which was a retarded decision.
>>160997124
>I don't think Deku could stand a chance against Bakugo with his full cowl. it just comes down to personal opinions I guess.
No you're just a stupid Bakufujo
>>160997342
The truth is that no one cares faggot.
>>160978653
Meh, it doesn't piss me off as much as those pics where Toriko was invited to the big 3 spreads.
>>160971960
The only two similarities I have noticed with Naruto and BNHA is that they both start out rough with barely any ability and they grow to learn from their failure, I would say both do share the outcast nature. But Naruto was much worse than it ever will be for Deku.
Mostly BNHA is a tribute to Super Hero manga and comic books due to the character outfits and designs. And Naruto is different with its thing being set in Feudal Japan era not a more modern take on it. Just remember though each are their own thing even if there are similarities.
>>160997428
Bakugo beat Deku even with Deku amping up to 8% full cowling.
>>160973968
Well the thing is Naruto had filler during the great Ninja War. Everything else is great up to the point. The best you should do is read the manga on that. Even then Filler can be good in certain instances.
>>160973968
Also I did forget to mention Naruto did not have any parental figure during his childhood and that is what he struggles with the most. It may be the cause of his pain that he feels, Deku at least has his mom.
>>160971960
That's borderline retarded. Sasuke didn't gave a shit about Naruto, he has his own shit going, and Naruto by far wasn't the first manga to do this.
It's like reading an old man complaining about the youngsters while the old guys of his time complained about him on his teens, your are incredible unable to be self aware. I wagger than a few, long, years we will be getting retards that grew up with Hero Academy complaining about the next thing, like people complained about Nardo, and still do to this day, or how someone must had been a pain in the ass about Saint Seiya, though I guess not on 4chan on particular when it was relevant.
>>160997720
Lol hahahaha, It's true about the cycle of older anime fans trying to say the younger ones are dumb. And do not remember what it was like with Naruto when they were younger, especially when it was not well received at first either.
The thing is BNHA is better than most shows I would dare even say better than Bleach which was horrible yet people liked it. No doubt was the art good but that guy should have made manga for Senien not Shounen.
>>160997901
Are you baiting here? Because I am disoriented by the "lol hahaha", and am hard pressed to understand where you want this to go.
>>160997402
i dont know why you're so triggered but whatever. you already pointed out yourself what I as trying to say all the time. Todoroki fought Deku seriously but he didn't do it against Bakugo. Deku pushed him over his own shadow and tried to help him. he sees in Deku a real appointment because he pushed him further even if that ment for Deku to lose the fight. Todoroki didn't feel the same against Bakugo and didn't pushed himself to hos limits as he did against Deku. that's literally Todorokis siege weakness and which made him lose on purpose. Todoroki may be stronger than Bakugo but the fact he still lost means he's not ready to fight villains head on. in a serious battle he'd be dead because he was a coward and didn't fight properly.
>they don't have the same mentality
ofc they have. they want to be the number 1 and would do anything for it. their approach is a completely different one. the approach is close to their personality rather than their mentality.
>>160997901
> No doubt was the art good but that guy should have made manga for Senien not Shounen
Yeah no all the retarded shit, plotholes and forgotten plotlines would have never flied with a more mature audience.
Well i will put it out there
BNHA is decent, like okay to read. BUT SHIT DUDE, IT IS GENERIC AS FUCK, call it " play it safe" if you want but that shit is white bread as fuck. It is on Blue Exorcist level at best and dont pretend that it is anything greater than that
Clover is much like Fairy Tail, just swap the fan service for the fights. Both are pretty shit but atleast Clover has some interesting characters
>>160997508
>The only two similarities I have noticed with Naruto and BNHA is that they both start out rough with barely any ability and they grow to learn from their failure
And that's not even true because Naruto HAD A FUCKING DEMON IN HIM FROM THE VERY FIRST CHAPTER AND LEARNED A FORBIDDEN JUTSU THAT NOBODY ELSE COULD LEARN
>>160998128
And Deku has the BESTEST UNIQUEST QUIRK OF JUSTICE THAT NOBODY COULD EVER INHERIT
>>160998174
>BESTEST UNIQUEST QUIRK OF JUSTICE THAT NOBODY COULD EVER INHERIT
>Is a quirk that's been passed on for years and years that's transferable to anyone if the user wills it.
And to add to this he wasn't even the first or most qualifying candidate AM just took pity on him because he was a fan but he proved himself worthy of it by impressing him.
>>160998122
>blue exorcist level
Now that's insulting. For me BnHA is a bazillion times more interesting and less generic than this shit. I don't know, I guess I do feel for the characters so BnHA feels genuine you know? Meanwhile Blue Exorcist meanwhile always felt like an empty, albeit well decorated shell of a story for me. Opinions I guess.
>>160998076
>Todoroki may be stronger than Bakugo but the fact he still lost means he's not ready to fight villains head on.
Uh...could you shut up now Bakufujo? I think you've made a fool of yourself enough today.
>stuff
You're just an idiot.
>>160998268
>The only quirk that is transferable
>Not bestest mostest uniquest
I can literally replace every single one of your word with nurutu and it would still apply
>>160998122
It's the best damn white bread that I've had in a long time.
>>160998122
>IT IS GENERIC AS FUCK
Guess what anon? Everything you like is generic or has been done before. Its not a detriment to the quality of the work but it says a lot about the mentality of the people who use it as criticism
>It is on Blue Exorcist level at best and dont pretend that it is anything greater than that
Well that's wrong since BE is outright shit
>Clover has some interesting characters
Drawing a blank here
>>160998380
>something that has been used by many before you and can be transferred to any individual
>unique
>>160998479
not generic on the level of bnha
most things are generic sure but academia is on a whole other level of generic
from chapter 1 ill 100,nothing in it is original everything done to the last dot is something we have already seen a bazillion times only in this it is way more prominent(the genericness)
>>160998561
most things are generic sure butthing you likeis on a whole other level of generic
from chapter 1 ill 100,nothing in it is original everything done to the last dot is something we have already seen a bazillion times only in this it is way more prominent(the genericness)
>>160998614
so meaning,you agree that bnha is that generic
>>160998520
Every quirk has another version of it that is almost the same else where, or just a simple variant
But only Deku's quirk is transferable, that makes it the most unique quick in the world
>>160998617
thanks for the you
>>160998646
>But only Deku's quirk is transferable
>>160998646
>But only Deku's quirk is transferable,
>>160998713
They all have different quirk
>>160998745
No they don't. Its same Engine quirk
>>160998781
>Engine legs
>Engine arms
Nope
That is like saying Deku has the same quirk as the muscle guy because they all punch hard
>>160998833
Iida's brother has Engines on his legs also its the same damn quirk. Nice try though
>>160998891
>Engine legs
>Engine legs and arms
Nope
That is like saying Deku has the same quirk as the muscle guy because they all punch hard
>>160998891
Ida's brother has engine in his hands
>>160998945
He had them on his legs
>>160998781
>One guy go fast by running
>One guy go fast by hovering
>HURR SAME HURR
Kill yourself
>>160998891
>>160998945
>>160998979
Forearms. Anyways he lost the argument anyways so he'[s just arguing semantics
>>160971613
Yes and naruto, bleach and yyh were DBZ ripoffs.
>>160998979
He doesnt
>>160998992
>Quirks aren't transferable
>Actually they are
>HURR DURR IT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE HE USES THEM DIFFERENT
>>160998992
Wait how does using them differently changes the fact that its the same quirk?
>Anon is illiterate and doesn't understand the difference between transferable and inheritable
>>160999039
>Two completely different quirk
>Try to pass it as one and the same
>>160999081
It manifests in different place / has different usage / has different min max speed / control
THEY ARE FUCKING DIFFERENT QUIRKS WITH THE "SPEED" ELEMENT, YOU NINCOMPOOPS
>>160999190
Not the same anon but some quirks are passed down from parent to child. Jirou's mom has the same ear plug ears.
>>160995516
Only good taste in this thread.
>>160999244
Inheriting quirks genetically is very different from being gifted a quirk like OfA.
>>160995516
Probably the shittiest manga in existence after Reborn
The characters are mediocre, the fights are mediocre, the abilities are mediocre and the "LEL I DIED BUT NOT RLY XDDD" system is straight pant on head retarded
>>160999359
> "LEL I DIED BUT NOT RLY XDDD" system is straight pant on head retarded
Yeah, like no other shonen did that before.
>>160999531
>When a character die they get instant respawed like it is fucking COD
Literally zero fucking tension
Eat your diarrhea based dishes if you like but dont pretend that it is delicious or good for your health
>>160999190
>Two completely different quirk
They're the same
>>160999190
>It manifests in different place / has different usage / has different min max speed / control
They're the same
Might want to stop reaching now its looking pathetic
>>160999320
Nope
>>160995516
Not popular enough for /a/ to shit on
Not bad enough for /a/ to shit on
>>160973063
Harry Potter didn't have a special potential, much less one people were aware of
>>160999929
I guess niggers are all one person now because they are all black
>>161000031
Pretty much, yeah, but I wouldnt use the word "person"
>>161000031
Skin color has nothing to do with super powers. Try again
Why they deleted my post? There was nothing offensive or against the rules. Is the mod a narutofag?
>>161000089
Race is more than skin colour you twit
>>161000015
He was a horcrux and Dumbledore knew that
>>161000158
Yes? Why is this new to you? It is literally because of mods that /a/ is infested with nurutu thread now
>>161000158
It wasn't a mod, newfag
>>161000168
didn't boost his potential in any way. If anything it was the opposite since dumbledore originally intended to kill Harry because of it
>>160999656
Well, sorry but WT got more tension than a lot of shonen.
>Muh respaw
Fuck off, shonen got that since DBZ. We know that the hero always win at the end.
>>161000204
>didn't boost his potential
Made nigga into a snake whispered or whatever the fuck the name is.
One of things that puts me off BNHA is how boring Deku's quirk is, super strength is just plain boring honestly unless it's done in an interesting way like in OPM or Naruto's eighth gate. It's boring because it's incredibly easy to predict Deku's growth in power as he'll just be able to punch things harder and for longer.etc as he gets stronger which leaves little room for creativity and surprise in his future power ups.
>>161000256
So? That only came in handy like twice in niche situations nobody could have predicted. Why are you typing like a nigger?
>>161000588
>unless it's done in an interesting way like in OPM or Naruto's eighth gate
>>161000588
>It's boring because it's incredibly easy to predict Deku's growth in power as he'll just be able to punch things harder and for longer.etc as he gets stronger which leaves little room for creativity and surprise in his future power ups.
Fucking animeonlys
>>160977591
Battle school stuff and battle exorcist stuff have been done enough times in anime and manga that you can't really accuse something new of ripping off the premise.
battle pirates on the other hand is a "unique" enough premise that a series using it can easily get accused of ripping off one piece.
Didn't really stop stuff like NNT from doing it though(even if it uses a fantasy coat of paint to differentiate itself but just ends up looking like FT instead)
>>160997224
Naruto is the god of shonen everything is ripoff
>>160971960
Confirmed for never having read the chapters.
>>161001324
My opinion is shonen manga now just ripoff old manga
>>161000897
WOW! he used his super strength on his legs to kick harder, Positively mind blowing and original...
>>160971613
>>161000588
Saitama one punch boring
>>161001545
But it is. Usually the kick chick is always a girl, hence the name of the trope.
>>161001984
???????????????
>>160971613
>>161001984
>the kick chick
Not him, but I've never heard this in my life. Is this a thing?
>>161002326
Thanks for proving my point.
>>161002358
Google it.
>>160975242
bnha is perhaps the most popular anime of the year
i don't like it, but i'm not dumb or blind.
>>161000588
Deku's growth comes from him learning how to fight and adapt on top of perfecting his Quirk. We've already seen him using other people's fighting styles and mixing it with his own concoctions. Deku started simple and I becoming more complex. Compare it to Naruto who had some neat complexities and then just boiled down to a Rasengan spambot.
>>161002963
>anime
What are you even on about? This thread's about the manga, which is what matters - no one buys WSJ anime. BnHA's sales are already down from last year and is selling what Shokugeki did two years ago, while Black Clover's success isn't even worth mentioning at the moment. Neither of these are looking like they'll go anywhere really huge.
>>161003304
This. Most of the fun in Naruto came from fguring out your opponent and making ninja strategies but then it all went to hell because of unwise cheated powerups. BnHA doesn't look like it will make the same error.
>>161003475
>BnHA doesn't look like it will make the same error.
I hope not, what made the early Deku fights so much fun was that he was basically Saitama but who got just one punch per arm. Meaning he had to think strategically about when to use OfA.
Haven't read the manga, but I hope the fights don't dull out just because Deku has better control
>>160973841
I had never even heard of it before this thread
>>160981541
The series was irredeemable from the start when his magic was anti-magic. Antithing super powers are the laziest powers a writer can shit out, and its always the mc who gets it because fuck me if the author can be original in any way shape or form. Fuck you Oh great
>>160994600
You have literally no argument.
>>160971679
I mean no. But it'd be dumb to think there wouldn't be similarities. Seeing as Horikoshi has stated in interviews that he is inspired by Naruto and the concept of both is roughly the same. Just different steps getting to the end goal and different settings.
Post cosplay.
>>161005083
Here is mine
>>161003420
>BnHA's sales are already down from last year and is selling what Shokugeki did two years ago
What?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-06-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2017/.116861
>2,097,088 My Hero Academia
http://kingdom.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:18292
>1,654,498 Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
And even taking volume sales into account volume 14 is the best selling volume in the series thus far
>Five minutes of Talking in naruto changes someone's mentality,that they had for years
>Five minutes of talking in BHA makes a person think about what they done, but doesn't insta change a mentality
>>161005686
>Five minutes of talking in BHA with the main villain doesn't make him give up his ways, instead makes him solidify his purpose in life
>>160978053
Choza survived my dude
Mx0 Super i-is gonna c-come back guys! You'll see! Mx0 2 is in the works with an anime, and a movie, OVA and vidya and more! Mx0 is going to save the shonen genre
>>161006158
Being Choza is suffering...he has no friends to talk to now and he's just going to live out the rest of his life alone with his ugly a sin wife.
Hey, you know, like um, there's other shonen out there. Shonen Jump isn't literally the only manga in Japan.
>>161006285
yeah great more shitty isekai manga, welcome to the future
just remembered that Keitai shonen manga just started too
>>160977031
>Naruto is the god of shonen genre
>When DB, JoJo, and HnK exist
Surely you jest
>>160984095
>those power levels with no wiggle room
>>160971613
who cares
>>161006665
>Le Jojo is good meme
LOL IT WAS ME DIO XD XD
Catching up to recent BnHA chapters
If this Mirio kid is totally broken like he seems to be, why did Toshinori gove OfA to Deku?
black clover - naruto, bleach, one piece, fairy tail, zatch bell ripoff
bnha - naruto and capeshit ripoff
one piece - dragonball, western fairy tale and
ripoff
gintama - rurouni kenshin, edo/meiji period ripoff
haikyuu - slam dunk, volleyball ripoff
shokugeki no souma - cooking manga ripoff
kimetsu no yaiba - hxh ripoff
>>160971960
>naruto invented rivals
>naruto invented super powers
>>160997224
yeahs is a ripoff of capeshit and generic shounenshit desu
>>161011104
instead of coming up with an argument you made a typical nu-/a/ reply with hints of reddit in it
sasuga
>>161013682
Shonenshit is ripoff of naruto but capeshit the garbage american story teller can do
>>160973063
Other way round, Naruto ripped off Harry Potter, and so did pretty much every other super power highschool type anime
>>160971613
This more better desu
>>161013987
Naruto story milles better then harry potter
>>161012501
Everything is just ripoff if you think not tell your 100% original story
Why does Japan even care about shonen? They aren't popping out kids, no need to bother with children's books.
They should invest in SEINEN, which was always much better anyway. Maybe japanese menchildren would have something to learn from instead of relating to "muh school story".
>>161014297
But one piece is shonen and better sales then seinen
>>161014297
Ln isekai is now more popular then shonen
>>160977456
>Things that BNHA would do better without?
Not at all
Archetypes aren't inherently bad, you dumbfuck
>>160978531
You are dumb as shit. Bleach had an okay start, and went sharply downhill aftewards. Its peak was not even as good as BNHA is right now.
>>161014297
Name one seinen manga anon
Neverlandfags strikes again.
>>161011480
he hadn't met Mirio.
>>161014337
>>161014675
To be fair, sometimes the line between Shonen and Seinen is very thin. Some big shonen titles could easily fit as seinen.
>>161014449
Manga is escapism in general, but that genre's popularity, despite having shit for stories, speaks lenghts of the gooks' lives nowadays. So sad.
>>161014675Berserk
>>160973668
>Only Horikoshi has but he's stated that he's a big fan of One Piece and Dragonball.
He literally said Naruto is the best shonen manga.
>>160998369
well think whatever you want. my favorite character is Todoroki but I guess you're just a retard.
>>161003475
>Most of the fun in Naruto came from fguring out your opponent and making ninja strategies
This happens until the final arc like 300 times.
Why are you people so stupid? just admit you've never read Naruto.
>>160991561
>anime's
Sasuga BnHAfag.
>>161018086
>This happens until the final arc like 300 times.
Cool horseshit bro
I don't care what anyone says, Naruto was the best thing to come out of Japan since the N64. Kishi put out the best art in Shonen Jump history on a weekly basis and a better story than monthly mangaka authors. It was original, unpredictable until the end (as in, it became more predictable once people starting to hover), and inventive with its use of cultural idiosyncrasies. The only thing I didn't like about it was Killer Bee. The story went down any chapters that he was in.
My favorite arc was the Pain arc. The way it resolved Naruto's greatest plotline about love conquering over war, by demonstrating it, and subsequently the fruits of peace when Pain used his (plot-backed) Rikudo Rebirth jutsu to revive the village that he had just assaulted; which Naruto still remembers when Obito uses it and is why he doesn't try to stop Madara with Sasuke (that's what you call A-Grade detail). It all came together perfectly.
I especially like how it comes right after the Shikamaru Revenge and Sasuke-Itachi arcs, contrasting how Naruto is different from them (Kishi lets the story do the talking). I like that Naruto has consistent characterization versus Luffy and Ichigo. I like how their first mission took them to a country where ninjas don't exist because waves offer natural protection. I like how Shikamaru's dad's death happens exactly 400 chapters from the game of Chess game between Shikamaru and Asuma, when Asuma tells him that one day he'll know who the "King" is, which cuts to a tree in the forest of the eventual Karasu/Hidan showdown, foreshadowing that the Chakra Tree is also created in that chapter.
Art - 10/10
World-building - 10/10
Story - 9/10
Lore - 8/10
Pottery - 100000/10
You couldn't out-write Kishi if you had a lifetime to do it. Believe it.
Not even trolling, because I know that the truth stings you ignorant babbies deeper than anything else I can say.
>>161019879
Hating Naruto is a meme, it's just the popular thing to shit on, 99% of this thread didn't read it
>>161019879
Nice pasta.
>>161006017
>5 minutes of talking with the hulk and the Sentry doesnt blow up the world
>>160996382
That's exactly the moment when they realized this shit was going too far, and used the magic Zen-chan button to magically close this fucked arc.
>>160971679
It is literally Naruto from a guy who read Naruto and thought he could play to Naruto's strengths way better. He was right.
im going to be sad once Magi ends
>>160997131
I don't know about the manga, because I only read the first chapter and I found it boring, but the boku fags have become some of the most insufferable fans on the internet, even though their favorite manga has not reached, even remotely, the sales of Naruto, not even the Blue Exorcist sales, but they talk like boku no hero is the new big thing. Lol, it's not
>>160997131
Wut black clover is good manga only americancuck dont like it
>>160995622
Being shit on I guess.
Since you are popular and rich enough for people to put effort into it.
Otherwise nobody bother.
>>160971613
>season 2 flop
>low rating and sales
>season 3 never
>>161025440
>season 2 flop
>low rating and sales
http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-08-03/japan-animation-tv-ranking-july-24-30/.119721
>>160976903
>think kaachan will turn heel
>gets napped by the villains
>tells them to fuck off and that all might is the best
>>160971613
and the second one's anime starts soon and it's being animated by the naruto animators as well