So she just wanted to fuck with Juri?

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>>160888657
Can you blame her? Juri is an annoyingly gloomy cunt.

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Why is she so perfect?

bitch just jelly

>>160888657
She loves Juri so much she wants to hurt her or something

>>160888657
>>160888769
she is the second worst girl, just surpassed by nanami.

She also wanted to plainly fuck Juri.

>>160888700
Wow kill yourself. Juri si the best girl.

>>160888974
>Nanami
>worst anything
Bad taste.

>>160889155
You're delusional.

>>160889189
Muh internalized homphobia.

>>160888657
no, she just wanted fuck up Juri

>>160889189
Why do people like Nanami? She felt like a gag character to me.

>>160889258
Gag characters are good.

>Anime revolves around people wanting to fuck other people
>Is lauded by the community.
Really makes me think.

>>160889327
That's what I want to do though

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miki is best girl

>>160888657
Did she get redeemed in the end or was she still a manipulative little bitch

>>160889410
She is shown mending her relationship with Juri. Everyone at the end has fixed their relationships basically.
Except Akio because he's a nig.

>>160889410
More important, did Juri actually love her? I've read some 'analysis" claiming that Juri was actually in love with Ruka and her Shiori obsession was more of idea in her head rather than some actual affection.

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Why was Akio so obsessed with his sister?

>>160889408
>create a twinky little fuckboy character
>make every male character in the series except him and Ruka gay
What did Ikuhara mean by this

What's with all the Utena threads as of late?

Did something happen?

>>160889820
>they both have blue color scheme

>>160888657
Inferior complex.
She want to beat Juri in any way possible. That is why she tried to NTR her (not knowing Juri is a dyke) and when she realized that Juri love her she try to use it to flaunt over her instead.
>>160889545
Probably not.
Ruka was the one who genuinely care for her though even though he knew he would be hated for his action. Arguably only one genuinely good person in this shitpile of hypocrites.

>>160889258
Character development.

>>160889189
Nanami is a cat murdering cunt.

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Is there a better character than Anthy in the whole medium?

>>160889723
Everyone was obsessed with Anthy

>>160889994
Hello Ruka

>>160889892
I think people started watching it because it's the 20th anniversary.

>>160889820
>except him
>he was clearly getting doffed by that one musical professor
everyone in Utena is bi

>>160889892
I'd assume that somebody made an Utena thread a while ago that got pretty big, leading to a bunch of newfriends watching it and all making threads about it when they finish. It happens with old shows from time to time.

>>160889545
she was more in love with the idea that she would love Juri, and not the other way around. It was a fantasy. I don't think Juri wanted her if love was not returned.

>>160890124
Rape doesn't count.

>>160889994
>She want to beat Juri in any way possible. That is why she tried to NTR her (not knowing Juri is a dyke) and when she realized that Juri love her she try to use it to flaunt over her instead.
It astounds me how confusing this is for some people. It was glaringly obvious just from the first watch.

>>160890117
right forgot about that
20th anniversary Utena Figma when?

>>160889258
I fail to see the connection.

>>160890204
It's openly spelled out in the dialog, people just don't pay attention.

>>160890201
if it was rape he would never have gone back to the lessons
seemed like he didn't mind the attention., what his sister was worried about was that the proffesor only wanted to fuck her brother, not love him.

>>160888657
Nah. She's a bitch

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>>160889994
>Arguably only one genuinely good person in this shitpile of hypocrites.

But that's wrong, this is the only good person in the series. Too normal to become a duelist.

Tsuwabuki is the only straight character in the show.

Whats up with all the Utena threads lately?

>>160890391
>tfw Nanami blushed at him at the end of his Black Rose episode

What did Ikuhara mean by this?

>>160890492
all Japanese girls are pedophiles

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>>160890328
>implying

>>160890483
see>>160890117
>>160890135

>>160890492
>What did Ikuhara mean by this?
Tsuwabuki looked like a MAN!

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Truly the Neon Genesis Evangelion (Japanese: 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン) of the Puella Magi Madoka Magica (魔法少女まどかマギカ) genre

>>160890328
Wakaba was a good person too.

>>160889545
what the fuck? it's the clearest thing in the world that she was hopelessly obsessing over shiori and loved her. god people are seriously retarded. juri hated ruka. she bit his lip when he tried to kiss her
>>160890124
probably. except juri's probably full blown lesbian and nanami is probably straight. ruka is also probably straight

>>160890558
I don't get this meme.

>>160890614
This is a shallow analysis of Utena.

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>>160890621
It's a good show so people like to shitpost.

>>160890328
No, he couldn't become a duelist because he wasn't willing to revolutionize his world. He was still a salty little shit.

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I dunno about you guys, but the badminton scene at the end was my favorite in the entire show.

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>>160890085
Nope, there isn't.

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>>160890518
>setting wild animals loose on your crush so you can try to save her

Tsuwabuki might be one of the most fucked up characters in the series if you consider the implications of his actions.

>>160890328
He is a "nice guy" who thought he was entitled to have a girl just because he wasn't a jerk to them. He apparently had a hot for Utena but quickly change his target to Wakaba just because he thought she had a feeling for him (and thus easier to get).
Also the professor's compliment that he was a good person actually translated to "You have nothing you truly held dear in your heart or any strong feelings toward someone. You can't draw a sword and thus was useless to me. Fuck off."

>>160889820
commentary on closet-homo manime fags

Fuck shiori lets talk about more pressing matters like:
______ ZETTAI______

>>160890683
Anthy is only good when her hair is down.

Reminder that Anthy literally did not do even a single thing wrong and if you think otherwise you are objectively incorrect.

>>160890744
>implying
She's literally the cause of everything bad that happens to anyone.

>>160890677
I never realised how sad that scene actually was until the second time through. Then again, that's probably because I watched the entire series in one sitting so my brain was mush by that point.

>>160890328
>muh nice guy
Worse than Akio desu

>>160890806
They deserved it.

>>160890706
miki is literally a purityfag and white knight.
onion prince is nice guy (tm)
saionji is a /r9k/ robot
akio is the older guy with a mid life crisis still hanging around high school and banging high school girls
touga is a nihilist just fucking everyone he can for the lolz until he actually falls in love with utena
ruka died trying to break juri free

ruka was a dick, but still best boy

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>>160890724
I wonder why they made her look like a granny for the most of time in the TV series. Was it intentional move to hide that she's actually very beautiful?

>>160890900
>Was it intentional?
Yes.

Notice how Anthy lets her hair down after she leaves Ohtori.

>>160890973
She also lets her hair down whenever she was fucking Akio though, so I don't get it.

>>160890900
yes. anthy is more an archtype than an actual character. she represents the negative views people have of women in general.
"girls who can't become princcesses will become witches."
so she changes appearance based on how others perceive her.
a 'granny' when looking innocen and frail and victimized, when Utena wanted to protect her
sexy and exotic with her hair everywhere when akio is fucking her to show her as a symbol of tempatation and seduction
the dichotomy is how many people view women; either pure or a slut, no in between.

Has anybody figured out what the stopwatches meant? I remember an interview saying it had something to do with the structure of the universe or something.

>>160891057
She is an actual character though, with Utena's help.

>>160891037
She lets her hair down whenever she reveals her true nature. Times when she's fucking Akio, talking to Utena in bed or leaving the school all fit that bill.

how can anyone like utena, she was an hypocrital tumblr hair fag

>>160891088
All signs point to them not meaning anything in particular and just being an aesthetic red herring for the most part.

>>160891120
I guess it makes sense, considering the near suicide attempt as well.

>>160891037
this is pretty easy to get. it showed that when she was at ohtori, anthy's sexuality and will were entirely controlled by akio. she only let her hair down and became a sexual being when akio allowed her to (mostly when he was fucking her). it's not too different from the abusive relationships where the controlling man wants his wife to be a filthy slut in the bedroom, but dress like a nun when she's in public. it's the same idea behind shit like hijabs. that a woman's sexuality belongs only to her husband

>>160891088
Time doesn't work properly in Ohtori, as evidenced by Mikage, so it's probably alluding to that.

>>160891125
She's cute and she didn't lose her purity even after getting blacked

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>>160891190
>she didn't lose her purity even after getting blacked
that is not how it works

>>160891113
yes very true. sorry, i shouldn't have phrased it as 'either/or'. she's both, as is akio.
>>160891125
it's one of the most creative and well written anime ever. sorry if whatever political views you have stop you from enjoying it. the extreme section of tumblr isn't too fond of it, if you want the truth. they think the implied rape and the racial stuff with anthy and akio being 'indian' in appearance is problematic because reasons

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>>160890880
Wakaba did NOT deserve it.

>>160891190
>blacked
Fuck off >>>/tv/ >>>/pol/
You need to go back

>>160891252
I don't even go to these boards, anon.
>>160891223
But that's what Dios said, not to lose it.

>>160891273
>I don't even go to these boards, anon.
Then stop using their horrible fucking memes.

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>>160891236
>implying that wasn't the wake up call Wakaba needed that Saionji didn't care about her

>>160891310
She didn't deserve it.

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>>160889258
> Why do people like Nanami? She felt like a gag character to me.

Since she is precisely everything that Anthy is not, she is mixed-up in the central conflict of the show. So people with eyes for the details will like her, too. Things like this:
> Namani has no understanding of sex and power but tries to come across as wily and experienced; Anthy knows everything there is to know but plays innocent
> Aggressive versus submissive
> Brainless, ineffective schemer; whereas Anthy runs the whole show with no apparent effort beyond watering flowers
> Their interactions with their brothers are....... rather different
> Anthy sees the world as an egg to be cracked; Nanami is terrified that she might have laid an egg
One could go on and on with stuff like this

>>160889892
> What's with all the Utena threads as of late?

Some faggot's probably watching the show right now and spamming threads. Use it as a chance to discuss good anime

>>160890677
>>160890813
Episode 37 was just a good episode in general

>>160891433
Was 37 also the one with the Cantarella scene?

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>>160891448
Yep. I forgot my screenshot of that scene actually.

>>160891433
Name a single bad episode aside from the on where Tsuwabuki gets hospitalised.

You literally can't.

>>160891474
Damn, yeah this is honestly one of my favorite scenes out of all the anime I've watched in general.

>>160891504
Maybe 13? I mean it's well handled for a recap clip episode, but that's still ultimately what it is.

>>160891504
I didn't really care for episode 21.

>>160891415
holy shit, you just made me realize nanami and anthy are basically like saionji and touga in a lot of ways.

>>160891593
Transparent Period of Adolescence is a good duel chorus at least.

>>160890744
Shes the prime manipulator in the series and takes joy in tormenting Utena, her 'friend', and others around her.

>>160890899
He was still a self-important prick who treated Juri more as an object to be saved than a person with agency.

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Long ago, when my older sister was still a child, she nearly drowned in a river.
On that day, there was a boy who jumped into the river to try to save her.
My sister got lucky and was saved by a nearby adult, but... the boy who tried to save my sister and jumped into the river was swept away.
Did he die?
I thought my sister was very cold for forgetting his name so quickly...
But now that I try to remember, it seems I've forgotten it too.
Hey...
Hey...
Why'd you tell us that now?

Gets me every time.

>>160891829
>implying
I think you need to rewatch his episodes and understand that he was literally dying the entire time he wanted to show her a truth.

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nanami a cute

>>160891839
The reason it packs so much of a punch is because it cuts back to Utena right as the final line is being spoken. It wouldn't have worked without that.

>>160891962
Hate to contradict but it's really at the beginning of the final episode. But I only know that because I went looking for the screencap; I thought it was at the end too.

>>160891415
I liked Anthy and Nanami more when I realized what was up with their relationship.

>>160891829
i think he was more of a pragmatist than anything. he wanted to save juri at any cost; even if others saw him as a monster. doing evil shit to help the person you love. honestly i don't know if anything else would've worked.

>>160891874
Death doesn't excuse him from morally questionable actions, even if he had good intentions. He actually actually attempts to rape Juri. He may want to help but he only does that by trying to force Juri to deny herself.

Jury and Toga have my favorite duels, the little arc with Ruka is probably my favorite in the series.

If I had to rank fashion it would be Utena, Nanami, Jury

Best girl in terms of personality:
Juri>Utena>Anthy>Wakaba>Nanami>Shiori>Kozue

Best girl in terms of physical attractiveness:
Utena>Nanami>Juri>Anthy (hair down)>Shiori>Wakaba>Kozue>Anthy (hair up)

This is objective fact.

>>160891997
I meant the final line of that exchange.

>>160892134
Best girl in terms of physical attractiveness:
Anthy>Utena>Juri>Shiori>Wakaba>Kozue>Nanami

>>160892039
i didn't read the kiss and the shoving up against the wall as a rape attempt. juri is pretty much his equal physically, and since he's dueled her he knows this. I doubt she'd go down without hurting him bad in the proccess. i thought it was a calculated move to make her hate him more and then go duel. to me, he knew she'd never love him because she's a lesbian. he didn't care if she'd ever love him back; he just wanted to free her.

i also don't interpret his actions as trying to force juri to deny herself or her sexuality. shiori is most likely straight, and a toxic bitch at that. shiori is incapable of returning juri's feelings just as much as juri is incapable of returning ruka's feelings. since ruka knows the pain of unrequited love, he wants to free her from that for a chance to love someone else in the future. (which i thinked worked, after her saying she needs a new picture for her locket). It had nothing at all to do with juri being gay, just that the object of her love was toxic for her.

>>160891504
all the nanami ones

I should really play this some time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3QT41UHs1I

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>>160892246
>Taste this bad

>>160892134
this is correct

best boy in terms of personality
Dios>Mamiya>Mikage>Ruka>Tsuwabuki>Touga>Miki>Onion Prince>Saionji>Akio

best boy in terms of physical attractiveness
Ruka>Dios>Akio>Touga>Saionji>Mikage>Tsuwabuki>Miki>Onion Prince

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Should i read the manga? I... just watched the musical, and holy shit its really an experience.

>>160892494
You may as well read it, it's short. It's a lot weaker than the anime though in my opinion.

>>160892039
It was literally a self-sacrifice for HER sake though.

>>160892134
>Nanami more attractive than Jury and Anthy with her hair down
Are you blind

>>160891593
>episode 21
eh
I like that episode because it exposes Nanami
And I kind of liked the side character girl.
It's kind of forgettable but it's not bad.

>>160893013
>not liking Nanami's ass and child bearing hips

I can see just fine, friend.

>>160893130
>wanting to fuck a literal child
wew lad

>>160893130
Nanami is ugly desu.
>blonde
>weird alien eyes
>looks like a bumblebee

>>160893157
not him but think of where you are

>>160893238
well yeah but it still... i don't know, fucking weird wanting to fuck a womanchild.

>>160893157
She's of the age of consent in Japan. Not to mention that all the characters have bodies that look at least 5 years older than their actual ages.

>>160893265
that's literally what yellow fever is, most asian women have the bodies of children comparatively.

>>160892656
What does it leave out?

>>160891153
This was also the impression I got out of it. Brilliant piece of foreshadowing

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>>160893013
nanami with her hair down tho

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>>160894120

>>160894120
>>160894230
Another anon of fine taste.

>>160894120
>>160894230
She looks a bit like Oscar with that hairstyle. Knowing Ikuhara, that probably isn't a coincidence.

>>160892784
Ruka's intentions were good but he never stopped to look at what exactly Juri wanted. He thought he knew best what she needed and forced her to go back to the dueling.

>>160894401
He knew exactly what Juri wanted, which was to break free of her depression brought on by her love for Shiori. He succeeded in helping her achieve that.

>>160890806
People with this mentality become the real life manifestation of the swords piercing her in their all too eager desire to blame her for everyone's wrongdoings.

>>160894401
juri wanted what she couldn't have (a straight girl who thought of juri as a rival rather than as a potential partner)

>>160894318
I love Oscar, I have 5 more eps left of RoV

>>160894483
it's so great to watch /a/ threads on utena, see the anthy hate and realize that symbolically, those posters are the true villians of utena.

>>160893275
>She's of the age of consent in Japan.
This meme needs to stop. The effective age of consent is pretty much always higher due prefectural law and national obscenity laws.

By your logic the fact that the US has no federal age of consent law means that you can have sex with anyone legally here.

>>160893900
>What does it leave out?
It's completely different apart from the characters and basic premise.

>>160894230
dat fingers

>>160894733
no wonder touga gets all the girls

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This was probably the only stable and healthy relationship in the show. And its only that of a senpai with her kōhai.

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>>160894530
Utena is unironically that deep.

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>>160894733
he got big hands yall

>>160894830
Why is Juri so lewd?

>>160894530
It's not just /a/, there has always been a pretty big contingent of Anthy haters just about anywhere the show is discussed.

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Juri a cute. A CUTE!!!!!


>>160894523

>5 eps left of RoV

You are in for a treat anon.

>>160892134
>Kozue is not as physically attractive as Wakaba
Man, she's sexy. Of course she's a slut, but she's sexier than Wakaba for sure

>>160894318
I wonder if Ikuhara made Anthy look like Lalah from 0079 on purpose

>>160896346
They do have similarities outside of looks.

>>160888657
She was literally literally fucking insane

>>160896387
So, who is A char of the series? Akio, Touga or Utena?

>>160896890
Utena is literally a car

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>>160898524

>>160895776
I'm scared

>>160900544
You should be.

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I fucking hate this faggot show

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>is a giant asshole that only calms down and acts like a decent human being after getting a heavy dose of double dicking

What did Ikuhara mean by this?

>>160902879
The almighty D can defeat men too.

>>160902879
Saionji was sexually frustrated

>>160894120
>>160894230
when the hell does that happen
also anyone knows in what albums are the dueling songs?

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Can you hear it?

>>160888657
>>160889214

Her self esteem issues have left her unable to believe anyone could actually like her. So she assumed Juri was only her friend out of pity. She's like a more vindictive version of Shinji.

Why do tumblrlets always claim it's out of "internalized homophobia?"

is the bd remaster that better than the best dvd release???

>>160903810
Because it's Tumblr. The majority of them can only look at Utena through the lens of radical feminism.

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>>160903875

Without a doubt. The DVD release had a really bad anti-aliasing problem that left the lines looking jaggy as shit. It's still slightly present in the BD release, but it's nowhere near as bad. Not to mention the backgrounds look really gorgeous in HD.

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>>160890228

>>160891252
>>>tumblr

>>160891415
>anthy is literally worst girl
thankyou

>>160888657
hell fucking yes utena thread.

started watching it ont the weekend it has been quite a ride, better than i expected, less lesbo and more character development that i could possible asked for.

is the manga really as tryhard as my friend told me it is? she said there was lots of slaps for no reason.

>>160904698
your mom is tryhard

>>160903534
Can you? Can you hear the sound of me calling the police? Why are you in my house?

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>>160905704

Don't be like that.

>>160888657
Basically. I don't think Shiori ever cared for Juri. She was jealous of how perfect Juri appeared to be, and reveled in in the fact that Juri had a fundamental flaw she could exploit. At the end she pretends to like her, but it's obviously a farce.

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>>160905897

The first time I watched this, I had no idea what I was in for. I feel like I'm not acquainted enough with the symbols it's playing on.

I really hated Shiori, but the episodes with Ruka were my favorite of the show. His tragic character is somewhat at odds with how cynical the rest of the anime can get, it reminds me more of the classic romantism in Penguindrum and Yurikuma.

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Quick, what's the best dueling song?

>>160906236

See >>160903810

>>160908013
肉体の中の古生代

>>160908013
Tiiiime machine!

>you will never be suave like dios
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgRP1Mv5mLs

>>160903810
>She's like a more vindictive version of Shinji.
Interesting slant, thanks for giving food for thought.

the black rose arc is the best one

>>160890899
>akio is the older guy with a mid life crisis still hanging around high school and banging high school girls

>Akio is /a/

>>160901187
Aw, you get it Oscar!

>>160888657
She thought that, but then as her elevator ride shows, even if she did get to hit Juri where it hurts it didn't really satisfy her, in the end her problem is just self esteem issues up the wazoo

>>160890806
It's fun how obvious it becomes that Anthy was manipulating everyone into going nuts in their episode once you know about her