Princess Principal

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Beato's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmqHs_6VSzQ

>>160831536
Classical, Beethoven and all that shit.
Though Chise listens to animu songs.

>>160831536
If the steampunk age hasn't given birth to new styles of music, there is not much for them to chose between classic and peoples folk. Chises listens to ping-pong, Ange to whatever they play on the black lizard planet.

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Anyone else notice that the Duke says "that woman" and not specifically Princess? Maybe he's onto Ange

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>>160832126
Then "someone" will move "her" ahead as it cuts to the Princess. Is this foreshadowing? Have I become a girl who sees through lies?

>>160832200
You're just overthinking shit.

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>enter the soldiers' carriage
>everyone is silently holding cards
>okay
>card swapping exposition ensues
>apparently no one gives a shit about these not-spies dialoguing away
>no reaction
>oh, so they're all fakes? Cool--
>some of them "react"
>wait what the fuck is going on?
>card swapping exposition continues
>no real human reaction going on
>just soldiers taking shit from maids I guess
>not a single word is muttered as to not interrupt the card swapping exposition
>card swapping exposition is apparently a thing now
Tfw too much of a brainlet.

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toot toot

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>>160828679
ah can you feel it?
it's these thread's iq's going up

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>>160831536
>BY THE WAY GUYS, SHE'S USING THE SPELL AGAIN
>shes sad!

I thought this show was supposed to test my IQ. Why can't Japs into subtlety?

>>160832290
They're British Royal Guards, they're not supposed to move in the presence of others unless ordered.

>>160832344
>44
4 is such an unlucky number...

>>160832431
brainlet

Beato is cute!
She's cute!
Her voice is cute!
I want to tell her her robo voice is cute and watch her get flustered!

>>160832443
Is white people entertainment full of subtlety you need an English essay to explain it?

>>160832516
>CLANG

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>>160832483

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I thought the staff confirmed on Twitter that only Bea's neck was mechanical, but it looks like the blade hit the side of her head (and would have sliced her face off if it didn't hit metal). Either it's an animation messup or the staff were lying.

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>>160832443
>I thought this show was supposed to test my IQ. Why can't Japs into subtlety?
Heh. Like your underdeveloped >Western brain can even begin to understand what is going on here. Owie, owie fly away? More like brainlet, brainlet fuck off.

I just realized that they didn't mention the word "spy" on the latest episode.

>>160832720
Probably because they didn't have to hide much from the people they dealt with this episode and they fought the bad guys head-on instead of using spy trickery on them. This was the least spy-like episode yet.

>>160832720
There was no real spy work, they functioned much more like a secret service

>>160832794
They were in disguise though because spies totally double as bodyguard when needed especially when escorting an otherwise completely defenceless princess. Not suspicious at all because they were totally disguised as maids, you see. Just spy things.

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>>160832702
>Owie, owie fly away? More like brainlet, brainlet fuck off.
Nice.

>>160831536
Farts in a can

>>160832847
secret service is what fighting off a politically motivated attempt to kill her and those nips basically is

>>160832897
That's a secret service thing, not spies.

>>160832917
I don't think I can handle it if Ange smiles at me like that.

>Implying spies shouldn't be able to engage in open confrontations.

Guess James Bond isn't a spy at all. They'd be moles and thieves. Not spies.

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I just wish this scene had less CLANG

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>>160832960
>>160832847
Dorothy and Beato service old Japanese men for political gains

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Thoughts?

>>160832960
Check out this brainlet... Look, spies can lie themselves into any job, this is a fact. And it is totally normal for a royal princess to be escorted by a troupe of maids and no bodyguards at all. That wouldn't raise any flags whatsoever. Maybe this show is just too much Cold War for you.

>>160832443
>I thought this show was supposed to test my IQ. Why can't Japs into subtlety?

It's not. Go watch Aho Girl to be challenged intelligently

>>160833053
Perfection.

>>160832630
>tfw all of Beato's body is mechanical

I want to fuck Beato's steamy mechanical pussy

>>160833058
That's secret service.

>>160833053
I wish she squeezed my head between them after heavy workout.

>>160833058
I don't think the maid outfits was fooling anyone. Those Japs weren't the least bit surprised when two of them jumped onto a train and started shooting a possible assassin

So how did this episode trigger the resident Jap haters of /a/?

>>160832344
Th-That looks like the Titanic

In b4 "Captain Obvious"

>>160832200
I forgot what makes it impossible to expect that Ange is actually the princess, especially when both can easily disguise as each other.

>>160833177
I'm more surprised at the fact that the samurais choose to katana their way through the assassination mission and not gatling gun the fuckers from their superior vantage point to quickly get it over with. As far as retardation goes, this is a much bigger offender than simple ineffective maid disguises.

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>>160833325
Why didn't they just line the traintracks with dynamite???

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>>160831536
I kissed a lizard and I liked it, I hope my Beato don't mind it.

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>>160833301
All passenger liners of the time did.

>>160833325
>>160833406
Killing the Princess accidentally would probably have started an international war. They wanted to keep it domestic

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>>160833239
>So how did this episode trigger the resident Jap haters of /a/?
I don't see how it did. This was Jap Hater: The Episode.

>>160833406
>Why didn't they just line the traintracks with dynamite???
I... I-I mean, they even gone to all the trouble of renting out a train, anon. Why would they waste it?

>>160833451
Why didn't they just sink the Titanic?

>>160833466
icwutudidther

>>160833466
Chance he escapes? I don't know, why didn't they just kill him at home?

>>160833053
Child bearing.

>>160833451
>Killing the Princess accidentally
Isn't that the point why normandy actually helps them?

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>>160833451
Funnily enough, probably that was exactly what the duke wanted: a machinegun / dynamite bloodbath. Instead, those barbarians decided to go with their weird melodramatic customs.

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There is literally no reason for the episodes to have aired out of orded

>>160832290
Hint: match the cards with the corresponding cards from tarot. Match the meaning of these cards with what is being said during the dialogue.

>>160833451
Why did samurai man tsk-ed when the princess passed by him then? That made it sound like she was a target. Ange even thank assassin spy for protecting the princess which implies she was in danger.

>>160833530
Pulling a Haruhi always makes for publicity, be it good or bad.

>>160831974
She listens only to authentic field recordings of biwas

>>160833053
Princess is a lucky girl.

>>160833530
There is. Having the team be complete in the first episode will introduce us to the main cast all at once and tell us what they do. So then they can pull back and show us how they got there.

>>160833559
She was going to stop the train and they could escape.

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Who will be the surprise full body cyborg?

>>160833564
Can't wait for Dorothy's episode. Her interactions with her father should shed a light over her true motivations behind joining a spy ring.
Also, Beatrice being forced to visit a morgue.

>>160832630
It's at an angle behind her head, the neck would still be the first point of impact.
The CLANG makes it seem like her whole skull is metal though.

From a narrative perspective, what is the purpose of a non-chronological story? Filtering IQ?

>>160833514
No, he wanted Ange in the fight as I pointed out >>160832126
>>160832200

>>160833672
Giving you a fun reason to rewatch it.

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>>160833547
Wow, thanks! Suddenly the scene isn't awkward at all. Stupid brainlet me.

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>>160833684
Post more bloomers.

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>>160833618
You're missing the point, anon. They never really cared about the princess' wellbeing.

>>160832444
This explanation satisfies me the best, thanks anon.

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>>160833681
Be quiet.

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I hope they introduce some enemy spy team that can take on these murder machines for the final fight scenes. Ange and Chise seem overpowered compared to whatever they faced before. Gazelle has the potential to pull out some exotic weapons.

>>160833530
It's no that different from a series that starts with a complete team then each main character gets a flashback, but after the next episode I don't why they should keep doing this.Unless they pull a dick move and air part of the final mission around episode 7-8 and then go back to the past again to make the audience connect the dots.

>>160832126
>>160832200
It's possible considering when he meets Ange and Princess at the ball, he says as someone in his profession, he never forgets a face as if he knew

>>160833595
>>160833560
>>160833672
>>160833774

I think it helped to make Chise's introduction a bit more meaningful.

Imagine if this was her introductory episode.
I wouldn't have cared as much, but in this way I actually was curios about how she became part of the team.

>>160833778
Nah, he tried to have Princess killed this episode, and when that failed, he decided to marry her off. The purpose is the same, get rid of her.

>>160833716
The post you responded to was about the tsk of the samurai when she ran by, which didn't necessarily mean he wanted to kill her. He obviously didn't care about her wellbeing and the Duke was counting on it.

>>160833547
That's so Monogatari. We avant-garde now

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Now another seven days wait starts.

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>>160833053

>>160812447
Some 2ch comments.

>Battle scene was incredible.
>This episode was amazing, really liked it.
>It was enthralling like a movie. Chise is very cute.
>The battle scene was amazing but "Itai no, itai no, tondoke" was really touching.
>It was an amazing episode.
>If it was just a few cm different Beato would have been decapitated.
>Really interesting episode. Swords fighting animation was unbelievable. Haven't seen such a high level battle scene in a long time. Script, direction and animation were all perfect.
>Animation calories was amazing.
>What happened with the card game?
>This might be the most interesting anime this season.
>Chise's sword fight was amazing, but Ange's legs were also super echi.
>You don't have to broadcast the theatrical version over air first.
>Amazing I hope the animation doesn't get exhausted by this.
>Train battle with spies has been done before but it interesting. The sword fighting scene will go down in anime history for recent years.
>We should bow down to the staff that made something this high quality.
>Couldn't they see Princess' panties when they bow down like that. Maybe her skirt is a bit too short?
>Felt like Madoka in the BGM for the battle scene.
>Are there two seasons seeing as theres a case 18 or maybe the will make an OVA?
>They can do it in other media like novels and game.
>Swordfight was amazing.
>Maybe the playing cards was just stylish direction and there wasn't any deep meaning.
>Love the Ebata walk.
>Time shuffle will be interesting because you will notice extra things watching again.
>Probably the best battle scene of the current season.
>The action animation was nice but I want the story to be done in order.

>>160833800
Yes, a nice patricidal and meaningful introduction about making the owie fly away. I can feel my IQ growing already.

>>160833833
But anon, I don't disagree with you at all. It seems that the Duke was counting on it, to be sure, but what is certain is that the samurais didn't give a shit about the princess since they were all about crashing these trains with no survivors. So my point still stands: if they didn't give a flying toss about her royal ass, why that retarded assassination mission? This is hurting my brainlet miiiiiiiinnnddd.

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>>160833928
>>Chise's sword fight was amazing, but Ange's legs were also super echi.
We are not so different, you and I.
>>Couldn't they see Princess' panties when they bow down like that. Maybe her skirt is a bit too short?
Goddamn japs.

>>160833928
My god. Are they literally us?

Every one of those is something these threads have posted.

>>160833928
Figures they lose their shit over sword fights, it was really nice tho.

>>160833928
>>Are there two seasons seeing as theres a case 18 or maybe the will make an OVA?

They really are just like us.

>>160833928
Has it really been that much time since a good sword fight? the fuck happened to animu?

>>160833928
Look at these brailets. Can't into spy intrigue but lose their shit over your run of the mill fight sequence.

Not that /a/ is much difference.

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>>160833928
Smartest comments for the smartest pripri.

>>160833967
>>This episode was amazing, really liked it.
>>It was enthralling like a movie. Chise is very cute.
>>The battle scene was amazing but "Itai no, itai no, tondoke" was really touching.
>>It was an amazing episode.
>>This might be the most interesting anime this season.
Either the brainlet meme is real and I really can't understand this show or Nips just have the worst taste.

>>160834101
Shit, meant for >>160833928

>>160833965
I don't get what was "retarded" about it. You mean why didn't the train have a gatling gun or why they didn't remove the traintracks? Those questions are pretty pointless, you can rationalize why they would have them just as much as you can rationalize why they wouldn't. Just roll with it.

how big is dorothy cock anyway

>>160833928
>Ebata walk
I didn't know this was a thing. Cool.

>>160833928
Any interesting posts with speculation or something or is it just shit like this?

>>160833301
>>160833426
Besides that, the Titanic had two sister ships who didn't die pathetically.
One was even destroyed by a fucking naval mine in WWI.

>>160834145
>Just roll with it.
Seriously? Is "just turn your brain off C:" the best you can do? Dy-na-mi-te, motherfucker. Do you blow it?
Shit, so many better ways to fuck shit up that doesn't involve samurais hopping trains.

>>160834162
Ebata did a large chunk of this episode apparently and his walking always involves lots of shoulder swaying and arm movement and often looks fairly realistic. When the spy soldier is walking towards to the door before being confronted by Dorothy is a textbook example.

>>160834236
>who didn't die pathetically
>destroyed by a fucking naval mine

>mine
>not pathetic

Only way for ship to die is to be sunk in glorious heat of battle, while sinking at least two enemy ships.

>>160834262
Britannic was still a passenger ship.

>>160834240
I'm surprised you lasted until episode 5.

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So many underwear shots this episode.

>>160831536
Of course Beato would be fucking Ringo

>>160834240
How would they have access to dynamite in a foreign land? Duke lends it? Would it be traceable to him? Would they cross him and use it for other purposes? Maybe the Duke doesn't want tracks destroyed as that would cripple trade to and from London in the middle of a secret war? Maybe the Gatling guns are all assigned in strategic places along the wall and airship and have none to spare? How about you try thinking before making inane complaints.

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I knew all that walking looking familiar, it's almost kind of hypnotic to watch.

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Maids are for rapes, especially her.

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>>160834397
This.

>>160833053
I love it.

>>160834386
Because them being able to steal a train makes more sense than them being able to steal some dynamite...

They obviously used swords because it's what they have been using for years. It's not uncommon to not trust new technologies, especially when you have the strong sense of honour we saw them have.

>>160834397
>>160834409
I wouldn't be surprised if her insane father, in an attempt to protect her chastity, installed a steel chastity wall in her vagina or even steel vagina detata.

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>>160834360
I'm in for the ride, baby. People are under the assumption this is somehow related to Flip Flappers just because 3Hz is working on this, while ignoring the giant Okouchi elephant in the room. This still hasn't reach the levels of retardation I'm expecting but we're getting there.

>>160834386
>How would they have access to dynamite in a foreign land?
????

>>160834426
Duke lent the train not dynamite.

>>160834426
Actually yes, since the duke would've just forged documents for them to acquire a mode of transportation. Easier than smuggling explosives.

>>160833965
Chise's faction needed help dealing with a traitor group who opposed them.
The Princess put herself at risk to help them and gain them as allies.
The Duke saw this as an opportunity for an accident to happen to Princess and assisted them.
Chise later misunderstands being assigned to stay protecting Princess as being treated with less trust and her faction wants to be sure if Princess can be trusted.

>>160834443
They pulled out guns as well, so there is that.

>>160834443
They used guns as side arms though.

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Can't wait to see the handsome slav prince and Ange quaking in fear at the thought of her Princess getting dicked.

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>>160834397
Goodnight, Ange-san.

>>160834467
>>160834484
How the fuck could the Duke lend them a train without it being traceable back to him?

>>160834520
They act like they stole it. Also address my other points. >>160834386

>>160833928
Sasuga.
Japan's finally recognized the show.

>>160834520
Because the Duke is just that powerful.

/thread

Why didn't Ange just grab the princess and nip dignitary and Cavorite the fuck out of there?

>>160834443
I don't think firing harpoons and driving trains is very bushido, anon.

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>C-ball looks like a boob
Goddamnit, Ange-san.

>>160834588
The 20 people who are watching it in Japan you mean.

>>160834588
Comments in the main threads for the show are almost always positive. I wouldn't take that as indicating any change in the shows fortunes.

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Why is Ange shocked here? simply because Chise believed her?

>>160834671
Yes.

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>>160834671

>>160834671
I think she briefly thought Chise saw through her lie.

>>160834671
>Oh shit, they found out!

>>160834671
She was expecting to fool her with her crazies but those damn Japs are even more weird.

>>160834671
She looks like she has been found out somehow rather than a puzzled look. No idea what it can mean though.

>>160834614
Because Ange didn't want to leave Chise behind, and she and Jubei were going to keep fighting each other even if the trains crashed.

I wonder what the split empires' territories are, and if they have different styles of government.
Do they control mainland Europe? They might, with their technology, at least taken out main rivals France and Spain, prevented Germany and kept the Kingdom of Hanover.

>>160834671
It's proof that Black Lizard Planet is real. She's trying to fool people into thinking that it's just a lie, and was genuinely afraid Chise found out the truth.

>>160834587
>hur they don't have access to dynamite
>hurrr a train is easier and untraceable
>but anon, they did have explosives
>HURRR muh other points
What other points, you terminal brainlet? They HAD an explosive to begin with, they KNEW where the fuck the train was headed. They COULD have exploded a rail track and fucked those people. Shit, this is only one possibility of many that don't involve having to crash two fucking trains after an appropriately timed action sequence.

God fucking damn it, I replied to a brainlet. Now all the extra IQ that I gained from this series is gone. Are you happy now?

>>160834504
>>160834508
Handguns have been in Japan for centuries. Gatling guns on the other hand were some scary new shit at the time.

Remember when Chise said that Princess made jokes that were not funny? maybe she was talking about Ange.

Is the Black Lizard Planet Africa?

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>>160834671
She was just surprised to find someone that knows the people from her home planet.

>>160834792
Are you really this stupid?

Chise not thinking the alien stuff was a big deal and talking about japs living among gods was really charming.
A lot of competition for best girl.

>>160834806
No, Venus is the jungle planet.

>>160834778
From what I take from it, Jubei's pride took over and he wanted to kill Horikawa personally. That's why the whole scheme was designed to separate Horikawa from his guards so Jubei could go in and finish him off.

>>160834698
Can I get the non-thumbnail version, please?

>>160834671
She's probably just shocked someone responded with something other than "what?" or "ange quit fucking around"

>>160834671
>She was actually an alien this whole time
But seriously I guess it is very closely tied to how she learned martial arts.

>>160834806
It's very likely Ange's way of referring to pre-Revolution England.

>>160834778
I guess you concede on the Gatling guns, but you haven't touched all points yet, namely the Duke wouldn't want the train tracks destroyed as it would adversely affect trade. Stop being too lazy to respond and think please.

>scenes of Japanese characters speaking to each other, most likely in Japanese because they're talking about serious stuff
>English characters just overhear and understand them automatically
This trope will never stop bothering me.

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>>160834809
Goddamn
>The insectoid lunar natives (referred to as "Selenites", after Selene, the moon goddess) are part of a complex and technologically sophisticated society that lives underground, but this is revealed only in radio communications received from Cavor after Bedford's return to earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_First_Men_in_the_Moon
The black lizard planet is the moon.

>>160834922
its probably a favorite book of hers and she was suprised that the japanese also had stories about moon people

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muh walking

>>160834827
That is a good point. I got that feeling too, anon, but they had no regard for the princess, so why care about some petty soldiers?

>>160834883
Yet they had access to a variety of firearms and their soldiers were fully equiped. I concede to nothing as long as the series decides to be consistent about things. Also, what the fuck do you think that a train crash does rail tracks? It would stand to reason that the Duke's political goals outweigh a couple of days' worth of trade, don't you think?

>>160834980
Those smooth walks and sways caught me off guard. I didn't expect actual animation for simple walking/running in this kind of show, usually in anime the budget is cut a lot to save for the big action scenes.

I want to circuit bend Beatrice and add an input and output 1/4inch jack to her voice box so I can use her to change my voice.

>>160834978
At least we located the planet she is talking about, probably. Let's hope she doesn't really hail from there.

>>160833547
Please explain to someone who doesn't have the IQ to understand tarot.

>>160834980
I love that Ange runs like an actual person and Chise does the stupid Naruto run.

>>160834671
She wasn't expecting that sort of reply.
She was simply surprised.

>>160834980
chise with the fucking weeaboo run

>>160834995
>but they had no regard for the princess, so why care about some petty soldiers?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

The whole plan, assuming Jubei was full MUH SAMURAI HONOR, consisted of:

Using the Duke's spy to sabotage the train, disconnecting the cars holding all of the Japanese and British bodyguards. This basically leaves Horikawa with 3 regular guards out of roughly the original 100, not counting Chise and the spy team.

They use mounted cannons to pick off Horikawa's remaining bodyguards and fire the harpoon gun, which serves the double purpose keeping the two trains latched to each other, and gives Jubei a way to board the train.

Once aboard, he'll kill Horikawa like he promised, and presumably everybody else including Princess to make sure there are no witnesses. If things went south somehow, then they have a back in the form of just crashing the two trains.

The only reason the plan didn't work was because he didn't expect Princess to bring along a team of elite spies, as well as Chise being present.

>>160835099
Read the last thread, you piece of shit:
>>160823409
>>160823457

>>160835105
>>160835115
She's cute so it's ok.

>>160834980
3hz doesn't disappoint.

>>160834995
You have conceded because no counter point was offered. The train crash was not their plan, most resistance was supposed to be done with when the soldiers were separated and they were going to slay the targets up close. The trains carry not just goods, but can carry mission critical items like the forged currency printer. It's a war they're in still. Also there is no need to sacrifice trade for his goals when both can be achieved.

I may as well throw in another point, if they see tracks missing or dynamite up ahead they would just hit the brakes.

>>160834980
Please princess, don't flaunt your ass to these barbarian foreigners.

>>160835312
She's a white girl. She can't resist exhibiting her assets to nonwhites.

>>160834162
>>160834389
>>160834980
Ebata too good, such a good all round animator with basis on flow rather than impact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJVvU6R9VaA

>>160835028
Budget is more or less a meme nowadays. It's more of allocating and distributing staff and giving them time to work their best. Ebata here on storyboard, animation direction, and key animation is a fine example when good talent gets good time.

>>160834464
>People are under the assumption this is somehow related to Flip Flappers just because 3Hz is working on this, while ignoring the giant Okouchi elephant in the room

They need to be reminded.

>>160835356
I miss Busou Shinki

>>160833638
Have we ever seen Beato's whole body?

>>160834464
>>160835363
We're probably past the introduction phase of the show by now, and we're going to go into stuff that happens post-ep1 very soon, which means a big serious arc and lots of opportunities for Okouchi to fuck up the story and ruin everything.

>>160835028
>Those smooth walks and sways caught me off guard.
Me too, anon, the animation is very good and it's nice seeing them pay attention to those kinds of details. Very much appreciated.

>>160835122
I get your point and for all its worth I do think that their plan went awry, though it is kind of retarded to assume that everyone would be neatly separated like a nice racist utopia. I just think that at some point samurai man said fuck it we're crashing this train with no survivors. Caring for some literally who 4th in line to the throne was a fleeting consideration. Shit, they were all kamikaze the moment they had dynamite strapped to some dude's ackle.

>>160835240
We can make assumptions all day long, anon, or we can just leave things at that. I'm not too impressed with the show's handling of consistency but fuck it, if it makes you happy, I'll concede to your retarded assumptions, all of them. Just never take an IQ test, I don't want you to spoil the happiness you gained from my concession.

>>160835453
There's no indication that Jubei was ever given specific orders to kill the Princess. Everything he's done was to try and kill Lord Horikawa specifically.

Also, the explosive was always part of the plan, though the guy was supposed to plant. He got cornered by Dorothy and was left with no choice but to an hero.

>>160835521
He wasn't working under orders, it was his mission, the Duke assisted him.
The guy was basically a political traitor turned terrorist that opposed the direction his people were taking.

>>160835521
I never implied that, I just sincerely agreed with you: the plan went awry. How much they did cared for the princess from that point onwards is anyone's guess, though I do say that not at all considering their train crashing mindset.

And about the plant, the dude was supposed to kamikaze. I mean, I very much doubt that he was a chink and he was probably on the Duke's clutches so he either died there or was captured and trialled as a traitor, so yeah, he was going to die.

Where are you chart anon?
We miss you.

>>160835803
Since he abandoned us because we didn't met his standards, i supose we're doomed to hope some inteligent anon drops on these threads and the mysteries get solved one by one.

>>160835136
>in episode 4, Chise was talking about telling fortunes with the names
So, did she really know the meaning of cards and was just drawing fortune to see if she could trust Ange or something like this?

>>160835453
No need to be so sore about losing.

>We can make assumptions all day long, anon, or we can just leave things at that.

That was my point here >>160834145
Which begs the question of why complain about this in the first place? You're supposed to enjoy anime so you should assume the best not the worst, unless you like being mad.

>>160834980
It looks so fluid and with such a sense of weight that I almost mistook it for rotoscoping.

>>160835858
Is that the reason he's gone?

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In this episode Princess is referred as the princess of air, but who else has a similar title in christian mythology?
>And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. (Ephesians 2:1-3)

Experts agree apostle Paul refers to Satan as the prince of the air. Moreover in episode 2 Princess expresses her sympathy for devils. A betrayal is imminent.

But there's more, this passage is often used to explain UFOs. Reptilian Abductees describe these beings as tall and horned serpents. Not only Princess is evil but a member of the lizard people. The black lizard planet is real.

>>160835356
>allocating and distributing staff and giving them time to work
Which costs money, directly or indirectly, even if it’s just lower RoI due to longer production time.

The sakuga manchildren anti budget campaign is getting on my nerves. Of course a single outstanding piece of work is rarely the result of a pile of cash, not in anime, not anywhere else. A generally high level of polish however is very hard (and hence more and more impossible the more a project scales up) to achieve without investing an above average amount of resources, both time and money, and planning for doing so long before production even starts. Nothing about that is unique to anime and working adults should understand that, yet a certain group of neets in their parents’ basement feels the need to yell at children who don’t read their diatribes anyway about this somehow outstanding revelation they’ve hit upon.

The idea that money doesn’t matter is just as ridiculous as throwing money at problems to make them go away. Great products are developed when managers understand that you can’t convert between these resources one way or another.

>>160835956
i swear to god if the black lizard shit ends up being true i'm going to fucking kill myself

Why are the episodes out of order?

>>160835956
>The black lizard planet is real
Yeah, because it's the moon.

>>160835956
Stop it anon, you're scaring me. What if he does go for that plot twist?
What then? Are you sure you want to meme this into reality?
Keep going

>>160836024
That's simply how the story is being told.

>>160835956
>Princess expresses her sympathy for devils
And the devil she talks about is Ange.

>>160836009
High IQ poster.

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>>160836069
>>160836028
>>160836011
>>160835363

What if he actually does it?

>>160836009
I think you've missed the point. Nobody is saying money is entirely irrelevant but that the issues people attribute to money are mostly not directly the result of that. If you hold funding constant you will still get wildly varying results.

>>160836137
It would become another Biba-tier twist that ruins the whole show.

>>160836137
Dropped. Without a second thought.

>>160835888
Why can't you just be a good little brainlet and leave things at that? I understand that not being critical of a show is the first tell of someone dying of brainletitis but shit, anon, get a grip.

I'm watching this show for the great animation and the character designs. The fight scenes are nice and I really love the WWI steampunk vibe. If you're pretending this is a legit great (or even good) spy story then we have absolutely nothing to discuss. Shit's retarded, my friend, and your whole assumptions train more than proves my point. This episode's plot in particular was bad to the point of disconnecting me with what was happening. Does someone not enjoying a particular facet of a show annoy you this much or "you like being mad"? Also, things are about to get pretty messy since this is a Okouchi show after all and the plot is about to shift gears to serious mode, so please don't assume it is so unwarranted for some anons to be cautiously pessimistic about where the show is heading to... unless you're not only a brainlet but you're also new.

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>>160836137
I stay strong throughout the entire series, for Ange mostly.

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>>160836137
What if I actually do you?

>>160836137
Jesus christ just shut up Beato

>>160836200
What makes "not a good spy story"? I don't get it. Is it the fact that they are teenage girls?

Reminder that this anime is told in order of Beato suffering

>>160836043
No shit, Sherlock.

WHY, THOUGH.

>>160836303
Fuck off.

>>160836164
>Nobody is saying money is entirely irrelevant
Many people do unfortunately, due to misinformation.

And I’d argue that when you’re talking about issues specifically, not pieces of great animation, it almost always is an issue of money. Managers don’t cut time short because they like seeing people get stressed out under tight deadlines, they do it because they see more profit that way. Time is an infinite resource if you’re willing to “harvest” more, you literally just need to wait and it comes at you. Unwillingness to do that is the direct result of money, because waiting does cost money, either directly or indirectly due to decreased income.

>>160836200
You sure are saying a whole lot of nothing. If you're this upset, I must have been right.

>>160834980
I hate the way Chise runs, but i love the way she walks.

>>160834443
This is set in the 1900s, and in the 1600s japan was one of the countries with the most amount of guns in the world, possibly the most with well over 100,000 guns.

Guns have always been a staple japanese weapon, just not glamorised by the media like katanas are.

>>160836290
Which begs the question: What's worse than almost being decapitated with a samurai sword?
Is Dorothy going to start using her voicebox as an ashtray?
Is she going to lose an eye?
Get crushed under a bus and get bisected?
Is she going to be kidnapped by a middle eastern PMC and tortured for information?

What's going to be left of her by the end of the series?

>>160836290
How much more suffering can she possibly go through without literally being murdered?

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I want Dorothy to teach me about the West.

>>160836137
Worst thing is I will probably still love the show even if he pulls off something retarded like actual aliens or cavorite poisoning turning Ange into Black Lizard. I hate my taste sometimes.

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>we see the characters wear time-appropriate underwear
>we also see them wear tiny minidresses and supershort shorts exposing a lot of leg
I don't understand what this show is trying to do with its fashion.

>>160836368
The thing is you aren't paying someone any less for a shitty drawing as compared to a good one, time isn't directly linked to pay for animators but linked to output. So the individual instances you see where people say "run out of budget" because of some "QUALITY" almost never have anything to do with money unless you are considering it on a macro scale.

>>160836497
I feel the same. No matter what they could do at this point I'm going in for the ride and gonna love it.

>>160836531
Mix the appeal of looser undergarments with the appeal of being able to sneak a peek at them easily.

>>160836290
>order of Beato suffering
>episode 3 has a flashback of her father dissecting her throat at a young age and replacing parts of said throat by steel machanisms and stuff WITHOUT any painkilling device or actually good sanitary measure
It's a fucking miracle she didn't die, either through exsanguination, septicemia or lock-jaw.

>>160836614
Best of both worlds.

>>160836531
The thiny shorts are for mobility and make sense tho.

>>160836615
That was a flashback though, it's not the same. I fully expect an episode about Beato backstory though.

>>160834917
>trope
I don't think you know what that word means

>>160836646
>Beato father episode
>they meet again with mad scientist working for Normandy
>PTSD triggers

>>160836601
I hope they pull a SamFlam in the middle and reveal everything that Ange has said so far has been the truth.

>>160836273
Are you being facetious? It has nothing to do with the cute spies, anon. They're even a plus in my opinion. But what spy thrillers are generally about is the constant tension that keeps piling on and on and on, the shifting loyalties, the backstabbing for tragic and ironic reasons, the absolute chaos that it generally leads to and, of course, the substantive political overlay that colours the whole conflict. This show has none. This show just goes "lol imma spy i lie people die" and okay, sure, I get it, you're endearingly retarded but you have a nice artstyle and cute girls so I'll "just go with it". But it keeps getting more and more retarded, and it doesn't help that anons keep asserting that this is even tangentially related to spies, which it categorically is not since the very first episode, this is just some shonen bullshit plot about a troupe of characters with various powers doing their onenote things (top hat does the heavy duty, tits mcgee does the honeypotting and is probably the only one with a driver's licence, the princess is there for political drama I guess, Beato is only supposed to be a cute spy gadget really, ninja slayer is there for extra muscle). Everything related to this plot just feels so uninspired, it really fails to captivate me.

This is all this anon's opinion. It doesn't help that I have this nagging feeling that Okouchi is about to fuck things up now that the show is about to get "serious" but oh well, I've seen enough anime to have my own prejudices, be them rational or not.

>>160836671
>trying to act insightful
>can't even parse basic english sentences
So are you an ESL or just straight up pretentious?

>>160836719
I'm not a native speaker, anon.

>>160834462
Nothing lost. Fucking her mechanical voice box is hotter.

>>160836615
>implying she didn't die
>implying Beato isn't just a robot her father built to replace his dead daughter
But seriously, recent work on miniaturizing cavorite control systems + cyborg technology = SOMEONE's secretly a cavorite-powered robot.

>Princess is an alien infiltrator sent to replace Ange
>Ange went to the Moon with the aliens when her real parents died and learned space kungfu
>Casablanca is the alien's home planet
>Princess won't leave Earth until she's drained it of it's valuable cavorite deposits
>The Commonwealth are actually alien collaborators, which is where they got their advanced technology
>Beato is actually Beato #065, dozens of other Beatos have died protecting the princess over the years
>Duke of Normandy is an android built in secret to fight the alien invaders
>Dorothy is a slut

>>160836671
You are refering to fucking movies, you retard, which have a very different narrative and resolution than series. You fail to understand that all this
>the constant tension that keeps piling on and on and on, the shifting loyalties, the backstabbing for tragic and ironic reasons, the absolute chaos that it generally leads to and, of course, the substantive political overlay that colours the whole conflict
you're talking about IS going on in the background via the form of Control, Commonwealth and Kingdom. Here and there in almost every episode, we got a glimpse of the exact things you say are missing (political links with other countries, Normandy backstabbing the Royal family by trying to get the Princess killed, etc.) You're not even trying to see further than your own nose and yet you're trying to act like an elitist? You wanted your (You), here it is. Now get the fuck out.

>>160836756
I'm not acting elitist. Anon asked why I wasn't hooked on the "story" so far and I explained it the best that I could.

(You) can fuck off once the inevitable Okouchi fuck up vindicates me.

>>160836556
>unless you are considering it on a macro scale
Which you always should do because that’s how reality operates. The last blue collar worker in the chain not receiving more money doesn’t mean the entire thing didn’t cost more.
Besides, running out of budget isn’t all that wrong since they did run out of their time and/or animation budget. Budget doesn’t just have to be money. If you can call upon x animators to draw y drawings, that’s a budget, and if it’s all spent on the cuts within the first episode, you done goofed budgeting, even though that didn’t cost more money at the first glance. If a studio goes all out on one anime and completely shafts the next like Mappa for example likes to do, they’ve budgeted most of their animation muscle to one project rather than the other. It gets a bit more complicated because this budget is sentient and has a will of its own, but given how regularly most animators stick to studios (Ebata for example seems to be basically always at 3Hz or 8bit), this should still more or less apply.

Did we get a guide for episode 4?

>>160836805
I'm not saying this show won't get wonky either. I don't know this Okouchi of yours so I can't say, but I hope too this Black Lizard Planet remains just a joke/catchphrase and doesn't actually come to be or else I'll drop this shit so hard it'll break through the Earth crust.

>>160836829
That's exactly the point though. The comments about budget being a meme and the comment you were responding to specifically are not about that. It's just pointing out that "budget" running out isn't the reason you see any individual poorly drawn scene. The primary cause of that is time or the AD not caring to correct it. That quality drawing is still costing the studio the same amount of money as a perfectly on model drawing in most cases.

>>160833053
they fucked up drawing that frame. doesn't count

>>160836922
>fucked up
Looks pretty nice to me.
That said, I'm more a fan of those bloomers shots with Chise.

>>160833053
I want this to be the last thing I see when I die.

>>160836908
If the AD really doens’t care instead of just having no time to do a proper job (the much more likely case), then yeah, maybe. But even then you might ask why that person is in that position in the first place, which he probably is because the studio took on more than it can handle, which it did to get more money in a shorter amount of time which means its spending per title is less comparatively.

Late to the discussion, but is ep4/5 out of order?

>>160837046
Shut the fuck up.

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>>160837046
No, read the keywords. Chise has been using a special ninja technique to modify everyone's memories.

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>>160837017
>Ange will never suffocate you with her thighs
I'm sure she can do that.

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>>160837046
They're all in the intended order. Instead of asking, you could have checked either the case numbers at the start of the episodes or used your brain and realized that Chise's introduction would have made no sense after their mission on the boat together.

>>160837046
They're perfectly in order, the problem is the time mage fucking with the timeline leading to things seeming out of order.

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I cried.

>>160837097
Ange and Dorothy have been practicing that technique on each other.

>>160837034
Yeah but you know full well when people say the studio ran out of budget they aren't talking about not budgeting their time. They are meaning to imply that ran out of money. A low budget is far more likely to result in a very static anime with little animation due to having to place a low cap on the number of drawings rather than poor "QUALITY" drawings specifically.

>>160837115
Oscar performance right there.

>>160837115
you have some severe mental problem then

>>160837339
or maybe it hit them particularly hard. maybe they lost their own father recently or something

>>160837339
Don't cut yourself on that edge.

>>160837115
I didn't like that because it felt too much a "luke, I am your father moment".

>>160837399
i feel them then my father has 3 months to live

>>160837430
I do think it would've been better if they didn't come right out and say it, but I still liked it.

>>160837437
fight him in a duel, so he goes out with honor

>>160837484
Was that even foreshadowed? It felt like an obvious and undeserved reveal but it shouldn't have felt obvious at all. Ange just comes out and asks if he was her father... what made her come to that conclusion?

>>160837307
By they you mean children who have yet to work a single day in their lives. Sure, it’s worth pointing out that they’re wrong, but in the past few years I’ve seen discourse shift to the other extreme, which is also silly.

Studios with way too much on their plate are probably the biggest contributor to late projects and QUALITY though, and that is a direct result of money. Less tight budgets per project would go a long way to fix that, no matter if that’s a budget set by negotiations with a producer or by the studios themselves such as in the case of Toei.

>>160837552
There was the grunt's line about Chise being a traitor, and then Jubei's line about how Chise had improved along with the headpat. There was clearly something going on there. Or do you mean how did Ange figure it out? Reptilian mind powers I guess.

>>160837552
Ange sees through lies.

>>160837617
>Reptilian mind powers I guess.
This is a meme I'm rooting for. /a/'s gonna carry that owie.

>>160837552
Very slight animation foreshadowing, but I believe when Jubei invaded the train they had a small focus glimpse at his eyes, which are also in a similar shade of grey like Chise's.

How do we fix #PriPri?

Just saw the so-called 'fight' scene and I was not impressed. They tried to copy the sword of the stranger scene but wasn't able to. The small girl blocks the sword as if there's no kinetic energy behind the strikes. A sword held backhand by one hand can block a sword held by two hands. T'was shit. I'd rather have more Beato.

>>160837552
Just like you she felt it was obvious.

>>160837718
Top bait.

>>160837552
Maybe the fact that Chise prayed over random stone, which wouldn't really make sense if her father had real tombstone back in Japan where he died. Would be even more of a hint if they have just buried the man here, but ground doesn't look like they did.

So, Ange is just that good at seeing through lies, I guess.

>>160837739
You're a fucking retard

>>160837728
Yeah, but Ange isn't in her underwear watching animated schlock assuming it to be appealing to the lowest common denominator. She made a pretty big assumption right there.

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>>160837718
You put some effort into it.

>>160837552
>Jubei killed my father
>I have heard this one somewhere else...
I thought it was pretty obvious that he would be her father, that was the cheapest and most obvious way of "foreshadowing" it

>>160837115
I didn't. I'm not kidding when I say I found this episode quite stupid.

>>160837985
I'm not kidding when I say this episode was better than the show.

>>160837985
I'm not kidding when I say I found you quite stupid.

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>>160838008
>>160838083

>>160838160
Pretty cool.

>>160837430
how is that bad, that movie is fuckin amazing

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>>160838083
>>160838008

>>160837552
Jubei's last words to Chise made it more than obvious. I thought they were going to play it nice and subtle but then just had to go "OH BTW HE WAS YOUR DAD HUH" so that retards like you wouldn't drop it

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>>160838247
>Chise joins the cast
>the entire story and dialog becomes 300% more Japanese

>>160837985
Stupid episode for a stupid show. Only brainlets ever thought this show was smart.

>>160838271
It was fine to mention that, it makes sense for other characters to talk to her about it.
But she really didn’t have to spell her emotions out like that, anything after the charm and maybe a falling tear drop was garbage that should have been cut.

This story is (so far) too good for Okouchi. He’s clearly not used to writing something subtle that isn’t over the top trash.

>>160838392
>over the top trash
Code Geass, Valvrave, and Kabaneri were AOTY of their respective years.

>>160838271
What's with the hostility, anon? The series does subtlety like you do posting, which is to say it fails... IF YOU GET MY MEANING. So that shit at the beginning with Chise pulling an Obi-Wan "Jubei killed my father" was pretty retarded. It also negated her motivation, Jubei didn't killed her father, Jubei was her father. I'm sure that the show will develop this further down the line, but it was a mishandled introduction to the character since right now she doesn't have a motivation, only a hint of a motivation that will be explained later on.

>>160838271
>so that retards like you wouldn't drop it
Ange had to say that so Princess, and not only the viewers, knew about her father.

>>160838442
They were great because they were trash. This show seems to actually have a plot though.

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>>160835956

Are we witnessing spy Madoka or something?

>>160838442
You're forgetting about Comet Lucifer and that classic Guilty Crown. Both AOTY obviously.

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Don't mind me.

>>160838442

CG S1 was. Others sure as fuck were not.

>>160838514
Nothing was forgotten he isn't responsible for those (just partly on GC)

>>160838559
I want to steal her bloomers.

>>160838514
GC was total ass writing wise.

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>>160837484
>>160838467

>>160838392
>This story is (so far) too good for Okouchi
I think there is someone keeping his insanity in check.

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My personal favorite.

They're not even sexy bloomers, why bother?

And that's the last as far as I know.

>>160838699
You're a fag.

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>>160838160
>>160838247
Here is (You)

>>160838718
Wow, I messed up this capture, my bad. What a fail.

>>160838718
Corbeille indeed.

>>160833001
Bond is honestly more of an assassin than a proper spy.

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>>160831536
you inspired me to make something similar

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>>160838898
Saved.

>>160838898
>anon, post your 2x2

>>160838898
What popular rock band cover is that?

>>160838718
Oú, mon chère, regardôuz l'anímu?

>>160839001
Spies and the Machine

>>160839036
Hey now, they've trained Beato to be a spy too

>>160838898
This is OP image from now on.

>>160837552
I'm glad they did cause I actually thought Jupie was her brother and he killed her father to take over her clan or whatever although that might have been because I was buzzed and champloo was still in my mind.

>>160839036
Your whole thing made me come up with the music label of Industrial Jazz so I google'd to see if it existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1bbR-Dtdg
Definitely not what I was expecting, nor it is suitable for such a cover at all.

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>crtl + F "Okouchi"
>363 results
PriPrifags are waking up. Good.

>>160834671
>She's more autistic than me! It shouldn't even be possible!

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>>160837097
literally why live

>>160838340
You autistic buzzword isn't going to catch on you fucking embarrassing retard.

How do I become a spy?

>>160839914
Step 1: be a lesbian

The combat in this episode looked really cool

>>160839945
You need to be a highschool girl, apparently.

>>160839914
have a robot neck

>>160839959
Dorothy isn't a high school girl. 7 isn't either.

>>160839959
The school aspect of this show is surprisingly non-intrusive.

>>160840008
That's because it's literally equates to a room where they all hang out together in the same clothes

>>160840008
Yeah, I can give them props for not giving us SoL elements.

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>>160839947

Tell me /a/, why are fathers such assholes?

>>160840133
This scene is somewhat diminished because of the lack of blood?
Was it a time issue that will perhaps be fixed in the BD?

>>160840173
They are male.

>>160836303
Because it breaks up the beats and makes it less boring, and it gives us a chance to get to know the characters a little bit before they try and make us care about their backstories.

>>160840133
What is it about that expression at the end that's so cool and cute

>>160840173
What are you talking about, Chise had a great father who taught her a lot of things and ensured that she was able to even surpass himself.