Honest thoughts on Type Moon?
>>160813170
It was great when it was a cult thing, now it's just been infested by fucking casuals
>>160813170
Dudes know how to milk retards.
>>160813170
Stop ignoring the fucking west you stupid hacks.
>>160813170
15 years of watching anime and I've still not watched anything based on their work.
I'm not sure why I'd bother. Is it well written or exploitative?
>>160813170
Love the worldbuilding, hate the saberfaces.
>>160813170
Only thing worthwhile are all the main titles, which is really like four or five works
Everything else is just milked Fate and not worth
>>160813170
Tohsaka Rin pleases old men for money.
>>160813262
Fate/stay night
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatestay-night
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://nyaa.si/view/427133
realtapatch.tumblr.com/
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/fatehollow-ataraxia
Tsukihime: Blue Blue Glass Moon, Under The Crimson Air
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/1705201
Tsukihime Fun Disc: PLUS-DISC
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/tsukihime-plus-disc
Tsukihime Fun Disc: Kagetsu Tohya
https://www.mofumoe.org/content/kagetsu-tooya
TMdict is a growing collection of glossaries from works by Type-Moon. It presents the content in a light-weight, simple format that can be sorted and searched
http://tmdict.com
Rips of TYPE-MOON's PC games
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ
>>160813434
Listen to this man.
He knows his shit
>>160813236
they know where their money is.
>>160813262
It's not a godsend of a series, but it's worth a try
>>160813170
Aurtia looks fucking great in a suit
>>160813170
obnoxious fan base that praises it to high-heaven
So you want to consume the Nasuverse? Here you go famalams
>>160814359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAx8f-VGzCw
I prefer this guide.
>>160813170
A bunch of sellout jews with zero integrity with a cancerous shit eating fanbase
>>160813170
It would be nice if they paid attention to anything eles than Fate
>>160813358
Tohsaka Rin pleases money for old men.
>>160814653
Tohsaka Rin pleases Blonde Girls for free.
>>160813781
>>160814695
Tohsaka Rin pleases her imouto for "Onee-san's"
>>160813197
>cult thing
Back whenever Type-Moon actually cared about its fanbase and made an entire "Thank You" art book, featuring art sent to them by fans and listed as many doujinshi as they could find
Never again
>>160813170
F/GO killed the franchise. Now it's a rotting corpse
>>160814359
>if you want you can watch the Unlimited Blade Works movie for the visuals
>It's by DEEN
>>160814748
Tohsaka Rin pleases EMIYA for bone-swords.
>>160813262
Fate/Zero is the only well written entry in the franchise. Yes, I'vewatchedthe VN
>>160814897
It's the sad truth.
Zero is my favourite and I've read the VN.
I still enjoyed the VN, but the writing is poor compared with Zero. I'm looking forward to the HR anime though.
>>160814801
>F/GO killed the franchise.
?
>>160814849
That guide is old and made before Ufotable UBW came out
And yeah, Deen made a UBW movie, but Ufotable outshines it so much nobody remembers it
>>160814875
Tohsaka Rin pleases loli's forfun
>>160814897
>>160814997
>I still enjoyed the VN, but the writing is poor compared with Zero.
How?
I hope Nasu plays crazier games to be inspired with. CCC was special.
>>160815071
It's written like a teenage boys fantasy fanfic, because that's exactly what it is.
>>160815071
Nasu's writing is TOO chuuni even for me.
Does the Fate series have any sort of chronology? Can you just pick one and watch or what?
>>160815122
>It's written like a teenage boys fantasy fanfic
Well, Nasu did come up with the idea of FS/N when he was still in high school
Milked to absolute shit, will never cut the dry crusted off teet and will continue to plob out stuff with the substance of dust for years to come.
>>160815222
Fate/Zero>Fate Stay Night>Fate Hollow/Ataraxia
I guess GO is some sort of sequel too, but I don't play that.
Anything else is just a spin off set in an alternate reality
>>160815026
>having to ask why needing to keep up with a shitty waifubait mobile gacha game in order to not be a secondary kills a franchise
>>160815223
I believe that's the point he's making with the second part of the sentence (which you cut off?) you dense tard.
>>160813170
F/SN, F/Z and Carnival Phantasm is good, everything else is pretty meh.
>>160815222
If you're only interested in watching the anime and not reading the VN then watch:
Fate/Zero, Fate/Unlimited Bladeworks.
Then the rest is completely up to you until the Heaven's Feel movies come out later.
>>160815223
>Well, Nasu did come up with the idea of FS/N when he was still in high school
No shit, that was implied.
>>160815050
I know, I just didn't know that anyone would at any point in time watch anything by DEEN for the visuals. Isn't that the one with the whole gay bulge and talking through teeth and newgrounds tier animation webms come from in the first place?
>>160815441
Tokiomi pls.
Nasu: Speaking of my own works, people often tell me "Nasu-san, you really appreciate women's rights, because you write stories with strong girls in them", and I agreed too, but lately I started thinking that might not be the case. In Tsukihime and in Fate, the heroines Arcueid and Saber are the ones fighting on the front lines and the protagonists are behind them. In Kara no Kyoukai, the fighting is always left to the heroine Ryougi Shiki, and the protagonist Kokutou Mikiya becomes just the man who feeds the heroine. That composition is actually very male chauvinistic. When you think about physical strength and emotional strength, the latter is more difficult to achieve. Anyone can be strong if they pick up a weapon, but you can't become mentally strong just by obtaining a thing. In the works of Nasu Kinoko, strength in battle is possessed by the heroines, and the male characters symbolize emotional strength. When I noticed this, I felt like even I'm stuck in my ways [?] in some respects. For example Arcueid is said to be the strongest in the world of Type-Moon, but at the same time because she's in love with Shiki she tends to give in to what he says. At those times the man is the one put in a superior position. If it were truly even, Arcueid could use her superfluous power to send Shiki flying. Like "you two-timing bastard!" lol
Nasu: I'd want a truly powerful heroine to have the emotional specs to match. Rin and Saber and Arcueid aren't just dumb heroines. But, I can't say that the way the protagonists who only have emotional strength teach something to these perfect heroines doesn't look like a metaphor for how men win out in real society. If we're aiming for an even world, we shouldn't erase men like in K-On! or push the weakness of falling in love solely on the heroines, we should consider an equal relation
So as to stimulate the reader's imagination, I try not to write too clearly about mechanics and characters' inner workings.
>>160815499
But Rin IS dumb cockhungry slut.
>>160815553
Rin likes pussy as much as she likes cock.
>>160815441
>>160815486
So I only played the F/SN VN so far, why did Nasu think it's a good idea to eventually turn Illya into a lewd, lesbian magical girl?
>>160815595
It was a doujin that became popular enough for an anime.
The end.
>>160815071
he hasn't actually read Zero
>>160813170
I want a show with Bazett as the main heroine.
>>160815307
>>160815412
Woah ok there, are you all going to bully me at the same time?
>>160815438
I wasn't into Fate at the time, but when that's the only thing you have for visuals, it's probably better than nothing.
>>160815717
>Final HF movie ends.
>They show a scene with Caren in the background.
Teaser for Fate/HA anime, coming soon.
>>160815745
>>160815745
bend over bitch
>>160815745
You deserve it retard.
You are practically on the same level as
>I see what you did there
or
>the joke is that [etc.]
Go back to your yt commentaries.
>>160816176
Nobody deserves to be bullied
>>160816251
Shinji does.
I like their stuff and unironically think Zero andPrismaare masterpieces.
>>160816251
Natsu desu neDon't behave like a retard if you don't like being ridiculed.
>>160816494
Summer?
>>160816549
I dunno man, it's been raining here all day.
>>160815071
Are you kidding me? Zero's prose is utter shit. Might be the translation, but it's fucking shit.
Nasu needs to rivisit Notes.
Because seriously that's like the best TM work so far and it's from 1999
They're ultimately a business after all. The doujin circle schtick is only good for the first few years but as you gain fans by the second you have to adjust accordingly to stay relevant even if it alienates your original fanbase. Don't get salty on a business trying to make money legitimately, you look like idiots.
>>160815071
>EOP talking about prose
Keep being awesome guys.
>>160817559
Don't worry Notes its already Fate/Extella
Was really into it as an entry level franchise, but the cancerous fan base turned me off ever trying to discuss it here. I appreciate what it was from afar now.
>>160819502
This fate fans especially on 4chan suck dick. I enjoy type moon privately now.
>>160816800
Going by the translation FSN's prose is infamously bad. Especially the mollusk metaphors. If someone says either of them has better writing they're not talking about the prose.
>>160817733
The idea of pandering more to otaku, as they're doing now, after gaining normalfag exposure is dumb and completely ass backwards.
>>160815071
It's so bloated and repetitive, for example any scene with pic related with Shirou monologuing is damn near identical
Same thing anytime you have the burning city cg, it's the same fucking shit
>>160820437
Pic missing
>>160820130
>I enjoy type moon privately now.
Generally the go to rule for anything popular.
>>160819502
T-M discourse is only good among friends
>>160820897
>friends
Fate stay night is pure shit.
I still don't get how people like Saber. She's literally just a watered down Arcueid. A badly written one at that. Her being genderbent Arthur doesn't help her ""tragic past"" be any less retarded.
>hurr durr she was king so she was lonely XD
Having that repeated time and time again is annoying. Who reads that and thinks its good writing? At least Arc had a reason for being how she was, Sabers reason for wanting the Grail makes no sense. I still don't get how she's so popular? Her character is extremely generic.
>>160820437
It shows how much of an effect both of them had on him.
>>160821376
Spotted the secondary.
>>160821376
Blond-haired foreigners always win out!
>>160813170
Fate has gone completely off the rails to the point that I find it hard to care about anymore, but I still stick with it because it's familiar. Every so often, one of the new IP's managed to do something cool or unexpected, like Grand Servants, or Primate Murder out of fucking nowhere.
Mahoutsukai will never receive any love.
Tsukihime remake never going to happen.
KnK was mostly navel-gazing garbage.
>>160821540
>Y-you don't like it cause you're a secondary!
Okay, kid. I already know not to expect any form of intellect from fatefags.
>>160821376
What, Saber is nothing like Arcueid.
>>160820133
>The idea of pandering more to otaku, as they're doing now, after gaining normalfag exposure is dumb and completely ass backwards
Not really, otaku are still their main public, they're a safe bet.
Its not normalfags who spent thousands of dollars on GO to get their waifu
>>160813170
Fucking garbage, especially fate, all of it.
>>160813170
I really like Bazett, so I hope that HA gets a proper adaptation after HF. Hopefully they use their mobage-money to go wild with the budget.
>>160814653
>never liked rin that much
>suddenly outfit change
>popping boners for every artwork posted
STOP
>>160821631
T. Tohsaka Rin.
>>160813170
One of the series I wish I was into more, but just am not compelled by like Monogatari (though I kinda just hatehis writing style and yes I did read and watch in Jap)
As for fate it's okay I guess. Like I enjoy it as a spectacle, but I can't really say I was invested in any of the characters. They just weren't very interesting nor compelling to me.
That said I can understand why people would like them.
>>160815122
Nah, that's KnK and Prototype, which F/SN ended up being completely different from other than sharing the HGW idea.
What the fuck is Nasu doing? Where's the Tsukihime remake?
>>160826110
In my pants
Pretty cool when they made visual novels.
>>160813434
I come back hours later to see this. Christ alive, that's a lot. Thank you very much.
>>160815222
Yeah, don't listen to people telling you to sift through some shitty VN
>>160829615
Filthy illiterate secondary peasant
>>160829386
Enjoy anon, type moon lore autism is one of the greatest pleasures one can experience
>>160829731
Bait on
>>160813170
Stay Night is fucking shit and overrated.
>>160815222
Release order. FSN VN -> F/HA VN or F/Zero LN/Anime -> The other one. F/Z and F/HA were written at about the same time, which one you read first depends on whether you need a break from the despair or not. F/HA is a fandisk that's 60% SoL, F/Z is the cathartic prequel
>>160813170
It was good when there was only f/sn, tsukihime and another one I dont remember the name, but now with so many spin-off stories it has become a giant cluster fuck not worth following.
>>160813170
Hot girls, shit stories.
>>160813170
My favorite developer of all time, I really like everything that comes out of it, though some to a lesser extent. Really great characters, lots of enjoyable plotlines, a great world, amazing music, really fun games, lots of nice merch, etc.
I really have no major issues with it, or any problems overall.
>>160830046
I want to be Mordred's new mom.
Fate needed to end with CCC like originally planed.
>>160813170
Plot-holes
Like, who summoned EMIYA after he got killed by Gil
>>160830754
Nobody. He turned to spirit form and subsisted on the animals in the forest around the Einzbern castle. This ability to drain the living was mentioned in the prologue by Archer himself.
>>160813197
F/SN was the fastest selling VN ever when it was released. It was always mainstream as fuck.
>>160816800
I don't think you can ever judge a translated work by its prose, since the prose you're reading is the translator's and not that of the original work, no matter how good the translation may be.
>>160830814
Wait, what animals? He got skewered by Gil in disappeared, meaning he's out of the game until someone else resummons him.
Name all the Sabers
I really appreciate how they're replacing all their old designs with Saber and Shirou. They're the only two good characters anyway.
>>160831070
Don't forget Rin/Akiha Tohno
>>160831070
tfw
>>160813170
The old stuff is great, but they've been rehashing the same concepts and character designs for years now.
>>160815284
GO's part of the Extra series. I don't think anyone cares about the Extra universe, though.
>>160831020
A Servant doesn't actually have any organs. Instead, they have two spiritual cores. One where the heart would be, and one in the head. As long as neither of those is damaged too badly, they can survive and patch themselves back up. That's what Archer did. He survived Gil's barrage, went into spirit form, drained a bunch of wild animals (wolves, I think) of their energy, and stayed that way until the finale, slowly healing. Then, when Gil was about to drag himself out of the grail, he shot a single projectile at Gil's forehead, made Gil lose his grip on the chain, and then shortly afterwords faded away.
Archer's have Independant Action, and EMIYA in particular has a pretty good rank in in, so he's able to keep his form without a master for some time, which allowed him to do what I just mentioned.
>>160831070
Takeuchi goes above and beyond most other artists; he not only utilizes sameface, but samehair and samebody as well. Very impressive.
>>160831219
>GO's part of the Extra series
It's its own separate thing, since it's not placed in the Moon Cell, or the timeline it's set in.
>>160831231
That said, their bodies do emulate human bodies well enough that stabbing them in the stomach still hurts and makes them cough up blood.
>>160821376
I just liked Saber because she actually improved herself by the end of Fate. I didn't care for her by then, and don't care for her in any other route.
She wanted to wipe away her mistakes as king and leave it to someone who was potentially more suitable. Although really, she was just running away from her mistakes, instead of facing and bearing through the past. And it was nice seeing her accept her shortcomings with a smile in the end. Can't say I had similar feelings for Rin or Sakura.
There are three basic worlds.
Fate/stay night: The three routes of Fate/stay night, Fate/Zero and Fate/hollow ataraxia all take place in this world.
Fate/EXTRA: Takes place in a separate world in which the Moon Cell exists. Fate/EXTRA, Fate/EXTRA CCC and Fate/Extella all take place in this world.
Fate/Apocrypha: Splits off from Fate/stay night's timeline by around the second Fuyuki Grail War.
Fate/Grand Order: Theoretically, it could branch off from any world.
>>160831538
Cool story
>>160831538
what about muh turkeyhandle
What's the story behind EMIYA Alter, why did he turned WE WUZ HEROIC SPIRIT AND SHIET?
>>160831471
She wasn't quite trying to pass the buck to someone else. Her logic was that considering how badly she fucked up, she reasons that someone else could have done a better job. The problem is that things probably wouldn't have turned out any better even if someone else was king. Camelot was doomed since her father's time. Altria was basically just life support.
Saber's goal was basically the same as what Archer (Shirou) did in his own past: give his life to the world in eternal servitude in order to save a few people. It's a stupid, insane wish that only those two would ever make. It's part of what makes them so compatible. In the case of UBW, Shirou is basically learning what Saber herself learned in Fate.
What Shirou wanted Saber to realize was that she did her best, and no one could expect more from her than that.
>>160831628
>What's the story behind EMIYA Alter
It's a pretty rough story. One filled with gacha and corporate sell-outs.
>>160813170
Marvel of the East. Aka shit
>>160831660
cringe
>>160831628
He attained Heaven('s Hole).Killed a bunch of pic related's worshipers and he eventually broke from killing them all.
>>160831819
Sounds retarded
Saber clones were a fucking mistake. The way they milk my waifu to the bone disgusts me greatly.
>>160831866
Welcome to Type Moon.
>>160831819
It's not that simple. Basically, their were an insane cult trying to "save the world", but they were basically a fanatical terrorist organization. Emiya, viewing them as a threat, hunted them down, but every single member he killed eventually became a martyr; in effect, he was sacrificing countless "saints" in the pursuit of his goals. His origin was corrupted from that point on.
I just want TM to do something new, they haven't done anything interesting in years. Extella was embarassing to read/play. The worst kind of pandering. And even though GO has some cool bits, it's not worth all the other shit associated with it.
It's such a shame to see the company that defined my early adult life turn into a hollow corporate sell out, with numerous promises falling to the wayside thanks to Fate.
>>160830830
>VNs
>mainstream
Are you unironically fucking retarded? VNs are basically the lowest of the low for the lowest otaku.
If a VN sells 10k it's a success.
>>160831660
But she wasn't giving up her life in servitude? Archer was more of a sacrifice, while Saber felt more of just erasing events. She just wanted to go back to when she made the choice and not do it. She'd be getting away almost scott free.
>>160832024
>Extella was embarassing to read/play. The worst kind of pandering.
It really was. Nasu really dropped the ball.
>>160832089
She was. In exchange for the Holy Grail, she would become a Guardian for the world. That was the deal. She gets the Grail, gets her wish, and becomes a Counter Guardian, an eternal slave to the planet. On top of that, she would also be erasing the name of King Arthur from history.
This senseless ideal of self-sacrifice is the entire reason Iskander and Gil ridiculed her during the Banquet of Kings incident. Though it's not as if either of them are stellar kings themselves.
Things I want to see:Girl's Work and porkslope remake
More stuff like Case Files
original works, specifically an actual fantasy setting story or game (not a VN) using the nasuverse rules and greater mythology (types, demons, ancestors, Throne of Heroes, etc) not necessarily written by Nasu but absolutely not written by Higashide
anime adaptation/professional translation/chapters 2 & 3 of Mahoyo and DDD
>>160832210
What's wrong with Higashide?
HA was amazing.
>That part where Avenger turned the grail off and flashbacks of Fate heroines appeared in his head
>>160830830
>F/SN was the fastest selling VN ever when it was released.
Pretty sure that's one of the YU-NO games.
>>160832210
girl's work is thoroughly fucking dead
porkslope is unlikely to have any progress for quite some time, i think. i don't even know if it'd be succesful; TM's modern fanbase is almost entirely made up of anime secondaries/mobage secondaries. they're by far the majority of the audience now, and most people haven't even read the original VN.
>tfw the 10th anniversary of the the Tsukihime Remake announcement is coming up
mahoyo is probably dead forever thanks to middling reception / sales falling below the expected line
I wish secondaries would die, alongside Higashide and Sakurai. These three are the holy trinity of Type Moon Cancer.
>>160832294
Why did Mahoyo do so poorly?
>>160830830
You know T-M existed before Fate, right?
>>160832339
nip butthurt over a combination of things:
1. no voice acting
2. pretty short
3. full priced visual novel
also no one really cares about Aoko. it's a shame.
>>160832210
I can't see TM ever returning to the traditional VN formula. Or moving off of Fate anytime soon. TM is Sony's bitch.
>>160832339
Don't trust people who don't cite sources.
>>160832406
But really though, what kind of VN doesn't have a voice acting these days? TM isn't exactly a poor company too.
>>160832406
Also because it had no sex scenes.
>>160832503
I was about to say the Rance series, but it's a eroge and not a vn, and besides it did have voiceacting for the remake of 3.
>>160832503
I dunno about that. It's not like they receive much in the way of royalties from adaptations, since Japan's an economic shithole. And a company that only releases a new product once every couple years isn't really gonna have very significant profits in the long run.
>>160832503
>TM isn't exactly a poor company too.
Takeuchi's lame excuse was that they didn't find it as immersive with voice acting, or something.
I'm pretty sure it's mostly just them being huge jews and blowing their budget on the visuals, though.
>>160832560
Rance remake that got an anime didn't have voice acting? Huh, I didn't know that.
>>160832503
Why do people even value voice acting so much?
>>160832210
Case Files needs an anime.
>>160832583
That was Nasu. He said it was a deliberate artistic choice, that the writing should create the voices in the reader's mind.
Honestly I am inclined to agree with him. I have never seen someone who played Mahoyo complain that it's unvoiced, the atmosphere is so perfectly built without them that voices would disrupt it.
>>160832590
Rance 01? No it didn't have any, the only title in the series so far with voices is 03.
What the fuck is his problem?
>>160832624
I agree if it's characters we've never heard the voices of before so it means characters will always have in your mind exactly the voice you want them to have. But we've known what Aoko sounds like for 15 years.
Heroic Spirit Archer has answered your summons. Orders, Master?
>>160832624
A deliberate money saving choice.
>>160832624
Nasu is the last person I'd trust on anything considering his huge inconsistencies in interviews and his tendency to lie.
>>160832641
He's lost too much
>>160832624
Selling a 10-hour long visual novel with no voice acting for full price is pretty ridiculous. I mean, sure, at the time he had promised future parts to Mahoyo, but we all know how that turned out.
I'm not gonna lie, I really like Niggaya's design. Kanshou and Bakuya look great as pistols, and he has some fantastic animations in GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1zprdR7oWI
Only thing I don't like is his final ascension with the gold veins around him.
>>160832641
Man, this guy went through some deep shit and mud. Being him is suffering.
>>160832464
http://www.getchu.com/pc/salesranking2012.html
This was all I could find I not sure it supports the Mahoyo flopped argument or not since it's just sales data from this one specific site alone.
>>160832765
>Selling a 10-hour long visual novel with no voice acting for full price is pretty ridiculous.
I was about to say that I paid I think 80 bucks for Rance IX and that has no voice acting, but I must've put in at least 40 hours into it before I was done and that was a full game and not just a vn.
>>160832824
This is what will happen if you take being a "Seigi no Mikata" too much.
>>160832860
Is the final Rance going to have voice acting since they started doing so with the remakes?
>>160832877
It's more what happens if you kill a bunch of bad people but because what they're doing could theoretically be considered good, the World calls you the bad guy.
>>160832925
I actually am not sure, very little information has been released at all about X. Alicesoft generally is very hush-hush about their schedule unless they plan to release a demo.
>>160832954
I imagine they're pretty happy with their larger budget considering all their titles in the West have been selling like hot-cakes.
>>160832987
Speaking of which I need to buy my VI hardcopy
>>160832987
Speaking of, I guess Evenicle is their next game to get a western release. Which I will play but I shit as shit will not pay for, AS charged me 90 goddamn dollars for it the first time.
>>160833042
sure as shit*
>>160833042
Nobody's going to be paying for Evenicle. Nobody knows what the fuck that even is.
>everything moefied
>retarded spinoffs
>Tsukihime v2 looks retarded
>SEIBAH overload
Fuck Type-Moon.
>>160833075
It's easily one of AS's big games, and kinda showed the difference between when TADA is directly involved in a game's development and when he isn't because he really put his all into Evenicle.
>>160832319
What's wrong with Higashide and Sakurai?
>>160833113
one of their best games, I meant*
>>160833075
>Nobody's going to be paying for Evenicle
People ate up BBH and plenty of people recognize Nan's artwork from Senran Kagura. It'll sell well. There was more than a bit of hubub about it when it was announced.
>>160833159
Because Haruka is literally only good for fapping (apparently 2ch voted it the most fappable eroge ever), Evenicle is a legit good game from purely a game standpoint.
>>160832641
EMIYA alter is pretty much someone who really fucking lost it
>>160833191
He definitely knows he can kill
>>160829386
>>160829801
There are material books that are intended to be the most complete guide to TM magical lore if you are interested.
1 book for Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Kara no Kyoukai, Melty Blood.
3 books for stay night.
1 each for hollow ataraxia, zero, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, Extra, CCC, Extella, and Apocrypha.
5 books (so far) for Grand Order.
Beast's Lair: Useful Notes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NEZzQsil7Zgkajr6ESYIoW1JNN6aeBuG4kE2SZWghXw
>>160813170
>Type Moon
I think you mean Fate because Fate is pretty much the only thing that keeps Type Moon from being complete trash other than Carnival Phantasm which unironically happens to be the best series it's ever produced.
Fate is basically a huge waifu war disguised as an action series with Rin and Illya leading the way for no other reason than the original Fate forced Rin harder than a donkey going balls deep into the audiences mouths and Illya was really the only loli with no competition. You can tell the people who actually have good taste apart from the hipsters because the guys with good taste will usually look in the direction of Caster while the hipsters will choose any other girl from the Fate series and come up with insane idiotic reasons why they should be considered good somehow.
The best intros Type Moon have ever produced would probably be
#1 Super Affection
#2 the first Prisma Illya op
#3 Moi Ikkai (this pretty much counts as an intro now)
>>160832641
That's what happens when you don't get salvation
>>160833259
>no This Illusionpretty solid choices though anon
>>160833413
I prefer the 2nd opening for fucking with all of us and showing things the anime never covered, just to make us think it might.
>>160833485
I meant the original OP from the VN though, not Disillusion. But yeah, second OP from DEEN was not bad.
>>160813170
Their last good game was Tsukihime.
>>160833413
>everyone gets some closure
>Redman sidestory
>his a nameless half burnt half crumbled
>last scene reveals him as a defeated servant sent to Extella as an error>tfw extella/zero reveals his original master was FemHakuno. she couldn't supply him with mana but still keep trying to give her a happy ending
>fails
>get sent to a world where things go right
even fucking Gawain got some closure with Artoria
what the fuck man
>>160831615
Turkeyhandle: The two arcs of Tsukihime, Plus-Disc, Kagetsu Tohya, Mahoyo and Tsukihime Part II all take place in this world.
>>160813170
The father of /a/ and Western anime fan memes
>>160833532
Mahoyo?
>>160813170
Shite
>>160833563
Apparently Nasu thinks that the red man has already used up his positive karma with the end of UBW, so all he gets now is suffering.
>>160833563
Being redman is suffering. Even when he's not original redman he's still suffering.
>>160833259
If they made another season of Carnival Phantasm and made Moi Ikkai the intro that would be the coolest double whammy surprise ever.
>>160833413
Why does Redman look like he's going to hang himself soon?
>>160833637
Nigga built up a lot of bad karma in UBW, the forehead shot was nowhere near enough payback
>>160833660
Because he's a failure who could never be a real hero even once
>>160833413
Considering what the poor fucker went through, I wouldn't even blame him.
Are we ever going to get another Carnival Phantasm?
>>160833682
meant to quote >>160833660
>>160832641
Does he still want to be an ally of justice or he is beyond repair?
>>160833259
>The best intros Type Moon have ever produced would probably be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wQj4pnwj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSKAQ7pSby0
[heaven's feel didn't have intro clip in the original game. it was something they added in the ps2 updated release.[/spoiler]
>>160833661
What are you talking about?
I was thinking more along the lines of him getting closure with the "I was not wrong" thing, and the whole scene with Rin.
>>160833690
Carnival Phantasm and TM Fes were made to celebrate TM's 10th anniversary.
Stay tuned for the 20th anniversary of Type Moon.
>>160833259
>Those OPs besides Super Affection
>being anywhere near as good as This Illusion, Another Heaven or the Extra OPs
>>160833736
How long is that? I want to watch another funny anime and it's been forever.
>>160833738
This. Not having This Illusion up there is an aberration.
>>160833738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sgQOBJrPnI
Why are TM composers so good?
>>160833738
Shit, even Extella's OP, with its shitty montage of servants with strobe lights, was better, simply because of that FUCKING BIT with the gradually appearing Servants and the sideways pan. I've unironically watched those few seconds like fifty times
>>160833708
As fun as OPs are, spoiling even a little of HF's twists with one in the original release would've been unforgivae
>>160833783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3Aonw6gbk
>>160833776
That part got me so fucking hyped for Extella, since I was thinking that the story would be about an army of Servants fighting off an alien invasion. That would have been fucking LIT, seeing them all joining arms in a seemingly endless struggle, with some mystery with Altera, but fucking NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>160833852
Well hey, maybe Extella 2 will be Servants vs Ayyliums this time around
Then again that would make the enemies hero units incredibly boring
Artoria musou styled prequel game during her times as King fUCKING WHEN
>>160813170
Beaten like a dead horse.
Nasu should just make a new franchise and universe from scratch.
>>160833953
Why though? The boss units could be anything, from regular ayyyliens to fucking Types, so if anything, restricting them to just being recycled Servants would be fucking dull in comparison
>>160834018
Grand Order?
>>160834021
Because evil aliens out to kill the planet just aren't as cool as ancient heroes, there's less banter potential mythology jokes or references and such
So now that the remake is in development for 9+ years what would you want to see?
>>160834143
I would like to see the remake.
>>160834143
It finishing would be nice.
>this Illusion
>good
Listen guys, I get that you want to put it up there with actual good intro songs because of your nostalgia but common. Top 3? How about no. I really hate when people put up things that are not very good at the top of lists because it's old and for no other reason. It's like when people put night of the living dead on the top of zombie movies when guess what? Nobody is watching that shit because they're too busy watching good zombie movies. I would get if it was a list of the most iconic movie or in this case Intro but we're shooting for the best guys. Not the oldest.
>>160834143
Look. At this point, all I want is just the SLIGHTEST confirmation that something resembling progress is being made. Holy shit, whatever happened to periodic updates?
>>160834234
You made me google your post to see if it was a pasta. Also NotLD is a fantastic film.
I kinda wish Shirou would appear as a Servant in Fate/Grand Order. Not Archer, but Shirou. Our Shirou.
>>160834274
We'll get Illya Shirou
>>160834143
>Tsukihime remake
>Mahoyo sequels
>Girls Work
>ever happening post F/GO
>>160834269
It might be a good film you hipster bitch but there's no way in hell anybody is going to watch it in modern times and compare it to 28 days or some shit without some kind of nostalgia playing into effect.
>>160834234
UFO's intro songs were all terrible though except for Another Heaven
>>160834388
>hipster no I'm just old. And I never called it a good zombie movie because it's not, the movie is about paranoia and mistrust of others. The zombies don't really even have to be there because most of the deaths come from humans kills other humans. But it is a good overall film regardless.
>>160834274
>SHIRO
>One who never should have become a Servant. Not a Heroic Spirit, but a Tin Man hopelessly chasing after an ever-distant star who was summoned into this Holy Grail War through some sort of error.
>A young man who spent his whole life pursuing a hopeless ideal. But unlike a certain Archer, he was able to live his life with some degree of satisfaction. One who always gave it his all, but never expecting to go beyond that. The idea of this man trading in his afterlife as repayment for a miracle is unthinkable. It is a mystery as to why he, who has no connection to the Throne of Heroes, should be here at all. Perhaps he simply momentarily lost his way while chasing after that unreachable star.
>He appears to have some connection to the blue-clad Knight of the Holy Sword and red-clad Archer of Wrought Iron, but he seems satisfied in keeping his distance and watching over them from afar.
>>160834419
well that was wierd, it greentexted my whole post. Well only the word hipster was meant to be quoted.
>>160833660
Losing FemHakuno hurts
>>160834419
You can like it all you want but I'm just saying realistically it shouldn't even be in the same ballpark as Super Affection which is probably one of the most catchy, entertaining and fun to watch intro songs in anime itself. I get the Prisma Illya Intro but there's no way I'd put this illusion up there.
>>160834499
I think Disillusion is better than This Illusion anyway, IL doesn't have as good of a singer.
>>160834274
At beast we will probably get Miyu Shirou with how that movie is soon coming up
>>160833660
being sent in an other world where things go right and everyone is happy while his original extella world in shambles and master dead does that
>>160834523
Don't get me wrong anon. There's definitely cases where old intro song are actually really good and hold up but I really don't this this illusion is one of them. It's pretty flat and nothing sticks out.
>>160834523
Why doesn't TM get her to do more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flnXbNGY_kw
>>160834533
He looks broken and dead inside.
>>160813170
The capeshit of anime.
>>160834523
I would definitely rank it higher anon because it actually makes me feel something and that's not just because of nostalgia but the actual visuals are pretty bad in my opinion which drags it down. If you want to see very minimalist visuals with good music done right watch any single one of the Inuyasha endings and compare it to disillusion.
>>160813170
The art style really bugs me. The faces look like shit from some preteen's Deviant Art. The actual costume designs are okay, though.
They namedrop mythological figures to sound esoteric and interesting, but ultimately it's pretty unfulfilling.
It's very "anime" if that makes sense, as in very cliche. Nothing outstanding. Pure mediocrity with flashy fights and pretentious "lore" to give an illusion of depth.
I shouldn't expect too much from something that started as a porn.
What do you guys thinks is more likely;
>A proper Tsukihime anime production
or
>Illya's own F/SN route.
>>160834700
he went mind of steel temporarily so he can save his imouto
cant blame him
>>160834789
For anybody wondering the singer for ending four Every Heart did an English cover for it which in my opinion is better and ending seven (come way way) which in my opinion is the best one is actually a cover of the original English come my way which was sang originally by Sophie Monk.
Original Sophie Monk version of Come my Way
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OmxzNa8Ri4M
Every heart (same singer)
English
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9h1xp4PNOEM
Original Japanese
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zv2JI_jyVPk
Now you know and knowing is half the battle.
How come in Fate/Grand Order, Nasu freely makes Nero and Tamamo fall for a different Master, but with Altria she's basically off-limits?
>all i want is a tsukihime remake
>but arc's redesign is literally saber version 27
also give sacchin the route she deserves
need more sion and riesbyfe toobut do people even know who they are anymore?
>>160835197
Okay. What the fuck is Nasu playing now? He can't still be playing Dark Souls, right? What is it? What the FUCK is it? I'm gonna go straight to his house and hold his game consoles ransom.
>>160831628
Kiara's weird sex cult existed in normal timelines as well, not just the Moon Cell timelines (Extra/CCC). A mind of steel-esque Emiya Shirou went to their headquarter to try and eliminate Kiara, but her follower just threw their bodies at him and he slayed them all climbing to the top, only for her to have the last word in and killed herself, making her a matyr and mind broke him.
>>160834274
Pretty sure they have datamined Pseudo-Servant Muramasa in Shirou's body
>>160834627
Probably because they sold their soul to the Sony jew.
>>160835197
>Muh Turkeyhandle
Dumb Wojak poster
>>160834984
Fate/Extra adaptions. Grand Order anime and manga productions. No one cares about Tsukihime or Mahoyo anymore.
It's become Pokemon with historical characters now.
>>160813170
Series that fans make out to be far deeper than it actually is. Has tons of "rules" and world building on the magic, but they mean fuck all as Nasu breaks them half the time. Seriously, what's the point of all the effort into the magic system if you change your mind every other interview or break it so often?
The genderbends for waifus have gotten out of control. Was interesting with Seiba when it was only her. Now, everyone and their father(mother) is a cute girl.
>>160815438
It's literally 2 cherrypicked scenes.
If you didn't watch it, why are you talking like you did? redditor.
>>160835197
need more sion? UNDER NIGHT IN-BIRTH Exe:Late
>>160813170
Even activision haven't managed to sell so many the same tittles.
It was good until it wasn't sounds about right.
I stopped caring about the Nasuverse once WE WUZ EMIYA came out. Fucking SJW ruin another franchise
>>160835989
You're a fucking retard
>>160835989
Didn't mind the UBW additions like Archer convincing Rin to kill Shirou at school.
Problem was Caster trying to use Sakura as a Grail or something because you can't mix Fate or UBW with HF, the same with mixing Tsukihime's near side arc with far side.
>>160836110
Nasu said that was fine because Fate route is boring and literally nothing happens between beating Herc and the final battle.
We need a 150/180 episodes fate series with naruto/bleach tier animations
Why isn't there a fucking gay route in any of the VNs. I want to shlick my nasty vagina to cute bois fucking each other in the ass
Everything Fate except for the original VN (and some adaptations) and Zero is pure shit, and anyone who unironically plays gacha should neck themselves.
>>160836182
>Shirou x Archer
>Shirou x Lancer
>Shirou x Gilgamesh
>Lancer x Archer
>Archer x Gilgamesh
>Shinji x Gilgamesh
>Caster x Saber
UBW is the gay route
>>160835158
She only falls for people with Justice Autism
>>160813262
It's got a mobbage now. It's exploitative as fuck, dude.
>>160836343
Fate/unlimited codes? All scenarios were written by Nasu.
Emiya is a shitty harem bait shit character who ruins the series.
>>160833118
One made Apo what is hot garbage and the other one wrote that awful Roma chapter in FGO and might wrote like 90% of Extella , because get real Nasu is a lazy son of bitch
>>160836560
I wonder why Sakurai is so obsessed with Nero
>>160813170
It's cool
Shame the Extra series is going down the shitter faster than Nazi Germany with no signs of improvement
>>160836883
Extella was a mistake
CCC was great
I played Tsukihime which I liked very much. Afterwards I played Fate/Stay Night and liked it until a certain point. Various things in that made me end up disliking it by the time I was finished. Then I watched Fate/Zero, which I thought was bland for the most part. Gave up on Type Moon after that. From what I've seen of the rest of their content, I think I made the right decision.
>>160821376
Saber is cool. The chick in your pic looks like a typical FUN THINGS R FUN brain dead ugu.
>>160836944
She can't help being a dumb vampire that likes hamburgers. Leave her alone.
>>160836883
>>160836935
What's wrong with Extra series?
>>160837211
Extella and most of things relating to it
Sadly anime is included among these
>>160837211
the whole attila the hun is actually a fucking alien.
I find the extella's extella/zero explanation interesting but the extella compared to extra or CCC is just weak. At beast you would enjoy Assassin's and Nameless's sidestory but overall meh
>>160836935
>CCC
I love this its not translated so it must be good meme
>>160837211
Extella happened.
Extra and CCC are still good. But Extella is a mistake.
>>160837330
nah most of them probably just read on this place
>https://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/
Gil BTFO'ing the moon cell made an impression
>>160833563
being red man is suffering.