FKMT thread, Kaiji edition

File: msUDHN3.png (598KB, 1200x720px) Image search: [Google]

598KB, 1200x720px

Polite bump

Don't know about scanlations I believe FKMTkrazy scanned everything related to Kaiji (maybe I'm wrong)
Other than that you should check out his other major works:Buraiden Gai, Tobaku Haouden Zero and strongest man Kurosawa. There is also gin to kin but it isn't fully translated.

Read strongest man Kurosawa.

File: __arikawa_otsuki_hakurei_reimu_ibuki_suika_and_itou_kaiji_kaiji_and_touhou_drawn_by_tonbi__317dc1ede6d43b92d483c5ec7ef2e174.jpg (360KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

360KB, 960x720px

>>160795241
Thank you. I've heard about Kurosawa, but what are Buraiden Gai and THZ about?

>>160795280
Gai is about teen delinquent who get locked in some fucked up Youth detention center and how he escapes from there. It's different from his other stories but still cool.
Zero is about games and gambles. His character is a combination of Kaiji and Akagi-he is really smart but still human and fuck up. Really interesting, the second part is vastly different from the first though.
On another note you should also read his collab stories with Kawaguchi Kaiji which are Life and Confession, both are excellent.

>>160795636
Thanks, again. Sounds like I'll have a busy month

File: zero.jpg (210KB, 900x1300px) Image search: [Google]

210KB, 900x1300px

>>160795280
Zero is about this really extroverted successful high schooler who got into this shady gambling shit trying to play a hero. People avoid it thinking it's too fanservice but actually the dude has a ton of flaws and both stories are fast paced, which is new, and fun. Gin to Kin is fun as fuck but it looks like the translator ragequit because of some plot twist. Gai is a small story and so it's consistently tragedy/drama without ever stopping being serious and the character development is really linear. Ten is goddamn fun and comfortable to read but it's full mahjong mango. Kurosawa is goofy misunderstandings that snowball into damn huge Dostoevsky mess.

>>160796023
>Gin to Kin is fun as fuck but it looks like the translator ragequit because of some plot twist.

Fantranslations truly were a mistake.

>>160796069
I wanted to create a thread and request raw spoilers/raws themselves from anons but I don't really know if it's the right thing to do because clearly there should be some strong suffering moments and stuff which is better to experience in the scanlated form. God fucking damn it. Funny thing is that muh twist is probably meant to be temporal but but BUT due to the publishing magazine problems the infinite technical hiatus came to be the end of the series well and probably the fact that Kaiji began to be the new not mahjong thing of the author.

>>160796347
Let's hope for the best. Like maybe a Kaiji S3. T-There's a pachinko animation so something can be done, right?

File: Tenc21-29.jpg (246KB, 750x1070px) Image search: [Google]

246KB, 750x1070px

>>160796551
To be quite honest Madhouse is in the shitter since 2011-2012, a lot of nice people quit with the buyout of the studio after some stock war or something, Kon died, Taniuchi still in jail, all that garbage so I don't know anymore. Gimme Ten by Shaft

>>160796697
>Taniuchi still in jail

Still? Fucking hell, wasn't this in 2012? How hard are Japan's drug laws?

I would be kinda afraid of any Shaft adaptation due to how much they like to edit the source material desu. It works well with LN adaptations but I'm not sure FKMT manga would translate as well.

But honestly, as long as it gets better treatment than Berserk 2016/17, I'm down for anything

>>160796697
Let´s not forget that the series´s composer has been in jail for having weed since 2012 and will stay there for at least 2 more years

>>160796937
I think you just did

>>160794889

Akagi was finished?

>>160796988
Washizu Mahjong ended a few months ago, yeah

>>160796937
I wonder if he is going to fuck off to Americas once free. Death Note fame would feed the dude contracts for the rest of his blessed long japanese life.

>>160796988
it's all epilogue chapters till Feb 18.

>>160797043
It's not that easy. Immigration is a huge pain in the ass when you have serious jail time on your record.

The first season was a masterpiece but season 2 had irredeemable pacing issues.

>>160796849
>How hard are Japan's drug laws?

Zero tolerance and then some. You get caught with even a couple of ounces of weed, they treat you like a black guy in Alabama who got caught fucking the judge's daughter.

>>160797150
True, but the dice arc was the pinnacle of both seasons so it's all forgiven in my book

File: The silver bombs keep landing! Keep landing!!! AND KEEP LANDING!!!!!!.webm (3MB, 720x404px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 720x404px

>>160794889
Ten kind of spoils that Akagi survives Akagi story, but it was meant to be a story of his legend.

>>160797203
Well, it's kind of a given that Akagi is a prequel. And even then, I think it's the kind of series where execution matters much more than any actual plotpoints

>>160797150
>the first season
while it was a bit sad they picked later less how to say? cute Kaiji model for the animation for some reason (I get style changes but Fukumoto does draw growing up/old, see Hiroyuki from Ten and Zero), animated Tonegawa was absolutely amazing, all the smirks they added to him, that heel turn when the audience cried about the money, tiny nice director things I missed watching it years ago. And now this nice director Yuzo Sato who directed both Kaiji and Akagi stuck with assorted maho sensou's and capeshit.

>>160794889
Hijacking thread.
Is there a translation for Gin to Kin that isn't god awful?

>>160800014
The big money rustlas is decent, but still unfinished. Last time i heard of them they had several chapters scripts translated but still looking for a typesetter

>>160794889
>I plan on reading Ten and Akagi afterwards
Ten will be hard to pick up Mahjong, start with Akagi instead

>>160800422
I already know rules of mahjong though. I have trouble remembering what all the yaku names mean, but I know them.

>>160800490
That's kinda badass.

>>160800533
Hundreds of hours played of Yakuza 2 taught me well

I still have no idea how shogi works though

Kaiji spoilers when?

File: WS000003.jpg (89KB, 500x423px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 500x423px

>>160800791
Most recent ones we have are 253.

>>160794889
What's a Band of the Hawk situation?

>>160801991

mercenary band in berserk translated as band of the hawk, later turns out to have been band of the falcon when a city is named "falconia"

>>160801852
254 must come out today.

>>160801991
>>160802045
I meant the translation group more than anything else. If thhe fucking author says the main character's name is "Guts" but chucklefucks doing the scanlations insist it's "Gattsu", there's a fucking problem to say the least. Also terrible typesetting destroys the gravity off some moments, especially screams, and I assume there's lots of screaming in Kaiji

>>160802457
I'm always mad when I see people not using the Dark Horse translations.

For Kaiji, FKMTkrazy did a great job. They're the only group too.

>>160802457
there's a ton of unreadable [narrates vertically] in the official Kaiji pt1 digital release, because Fukumoto loves to fit text in the tiny space between pictures or right along the whole 1st page of the chapter on the side and that publisher seemingly doesn't give a fuck. Well, the animu is good so all is good.

>>160802968
Yeah, I'll probably just start with Part 3 because I've already seen the anime and with how slow-paced it is, I don't imagine they skipped much

>>160803107
Kaiji 3 is a wild ride. Even better if you haven't been spoiled.

File: burn.jpg (699KB, 1067x1038px) Image search: [Google]

699KB, 1067x1038px

>>160803107
I'm on E-card right now, they only skipped a pair of style details so far. 1) upon entering the mirror room on Espoir: blacksuits shredded Kaiji's passport and branded him like cattle with a number, left forearm 2) fucking Endoh greeted Sahara and Kaiji with roses coz why not. That's it.

>>160803384
>branded him like cattle with a number

Being Kaiji is fucking suffering. I don't think there's many characters, let alone protagonists, who get scarred both physically and mentally as often as he does

File: kaiji crying.jpg (102KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 1280x720px

I should've bought all the Tonegawa spinoff tankobon when I had the change when I visited Japan this summer

I still remember how the covers looked like

>>160803603
The day I save up enough money to visit Japan, I'm buying all the obscure hipster bullshit I can't get my hands on right now desu

File: img_378.jpg (459KB, 721x1024px) Image search: [Google]

459KB, 721x1024px

>>160800791
RIGHT NOW

>>160800559

Shogi's just Chess but with a few gimmicks and also because you can't see what the pieces are because of the PS2's shitty resolution so you never know when you're going to be suddenly checkmated by Y2's invincible shogi AI.

No manga has deeply impacted me as much as Buraiden Gai.

I want to surpass myself!

>>160804016
I'm not that great at chess either. But I think my shogi problem is the fact that my mind doesn't register the symbols as actually menaingful, so I forget which piece does what.

And yeah, that AI was straight up bullshit. "Beginner's game" my ass

>>160803712
Fuck.I can't believe I feel bad for him.

>>160804016
Those "gimmicks" are all killer and change the game entirely though. I'm pretty okay at chess, at the very least not terrible, but trying to plan ahead in shogi just goes straight over my head. I have no idea how people can take so many different factors into account trying to make their move, it's disgusting.

>>160803603
reading those three scanlated chapters I couldn't shake off the zawa feeling that Tonegawa behaves like that not because of the gag nature of the manga, but ya know. That was both fun and horrible.

File: 60623262_p11.png (661KB, 500x754px) Image search: [Google]

661KB, 500x754px

>>160803712
BEST BOY CAN'T DIE

>>160804617
Shogi is often said to be the game with the by far widest gap between professionals and amateurs. Trying to become a pro is absolutely absurd far moreso than in chess for example. For the longest time you could count how many people joined the professional shogi association per year on one hand. It wasn't until like 2 or 3 years ago that they lightened up a bit and let people that aren't quite at grand master level in.

>>160803712
WHERE
HE CAN'T DIE
NOT HIM

>>160803712
What is Kaiji gonna do now that he is one of the richest men in Nippon?
Fund his own gambling tournaments where he puts his fortune at stake?
Or just go to a random rigged pachinko parlor and blow it all by burning balls for a month straight?

File: カイジネタバレ254_027.jpg (277KB, 650x923px) Image search: [Google]

277KB, 650x923px

>>160803712
Most I'm looking forward to next chapter in a while.

>>160805385
W H E R E

>>160805385
oh fuck

>>160805646
http://debasai.com/kaiji-253/

This is a website that posts spoilers but it's only up to 253 right now. No clue how that anon got 254 already.

File: e0c038b836c597bd04980a04a941019c.png (44KB, 190x224px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 190x224px

And this just keeps on getting better

File: kazuki.jpg (41KB, 500x231px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 500x231px

>Kazuya has an older brother

Welp, looks like we know who the next villain is already.

File: img_377.jpg (455KB, 721x1024px) Image search: [Google]

455KB, 721x1024px

>>160806127
I want to see Kaiji and Kazuya team up against Kazuki and Kazutaka

>>160805646
>>160805893
http://manga-spoiler.com/archives/104851

>>160806217
holy shit yeah me too
i wanted them to team up since forever ago but this would just make it so much better

>>160806217
Pretty boy.

>>160800490
It will be kinda cool if you read Ten first, because it will leave you little room to misinterpret Akagi's character in his spinoff manga, like many do when they start off with it.

>>160807330
Well, I've already watched the Akagi anime so I think I'll have some wrong impressions either way.

File: 020.png (273KB, 813x1200px) Image search: [Google]

273KB, 813x1200px

>>160804037
The last chapters are some powerful stuff. FKMT is at its best when he does these sort of life lessons.

>>160794889
Is part 4 and 5 seen as one? Does that mean we have 140+ One Poker chapters if you subtract part 4?

>>160807420
Oh! Thats the best combo im my opinion, watching Akagi and then off to Ten. Hope you enjoy and have fun with whatever you pick to read next!

>>160807729
Minefield Mahjong, Salvation Game and One Poker Hen are all part of Tobaku Datenroku Kaiji if you want to be technical about it.

>>160807765
Thanks, anon, I hope I will.

>>160807767
I like how FKMT makes a difference between part 1, Hakairoku and Tobaku Datenroku. They all have a distinct identity, even Kaiji's look changes according to it

>>160796023
Zero is definitely pretty good. It's really a lighter version of Kaiji, but it's fun. I just wish there was more of it.

>>160796551
I don't want any more anime really. The next volumes wouldn't be as much fun to watch unless they really compress them. Plus the ending of the second season kind of immediately gets ruined by the next arc.

>>160801852
Is this really happening?

>>160808569
>we will never know what happened to Shirube
Feels bad.

>>160808878
>we will never see the big villains in kaiji or zero defeated
It gets worse.

>>160808878
Shirube is so cool I wish we knew more about him.
I wonder what will fkmt do after finishing Akagi. Will he just work towards finishing Kaiji and the new Kurosawa or will he pick up / start something else? What kind of madman works on three manga at the same time anyway!?

>>160808750
>the ending of the second season kind of immediately gets ruined by the next arc
I was afraid of that at first but actually I think it fits the narrative really well and deepens Kaiji's character and his place as a pariah

>>160809938
I agree, but season 2 ended on such a high note that I like it as is.

File: IMG_1759.jpg (126KB, 750x815px) Image search: [Google]

126KB, 750x815px

>>160809938

File: DCR1ji1XoAAxA5K.jpg (188KB, 900x1200px) Image search: [Google]

188KB, 900x1200px

>>160810491
true
>tfw MIRAI BOKURA NO TENO NAKAAAAAAAAAAA

Now I just want a season of Washizu Mahjong

>>160807330
What is there to misinterpret?

>>160796023
Fukumoto is very uneven writer. I found first part of Zero subpar but second part was alright. Ten and Kurosawa were clearly written on fly but had great endings.

So far from what I've read only Kaiji and Akagi stayed consistently good.

>>160807639
The ending was great but I was especially moved by Gai's monologue about independence and living alone.

hope the anime never comes back. wouldn't be the same without the original composer. blacklisted from the entire industry over a bit of fucking weed, fucking nips man

Rank Zero, Akagi, Kaiji, Tokuchi (One Outs), Akiyama (Liar Game), Light (Death Note), and Lelouch (Code Geass) in terms of intelligence.

>>160812271
I'd honestly put Light and Lelouch rather low due to the fact that others don't have magical bullshit to rely on

>>160812761
I'd probably put Light at the very bottom and Lelouch one step above him.

>>160812795
Yeah, Light has a bad case of smart-character-not-smart-writer syndrome. Which makes his downfall really fucking stupid.

>>160812867
More like "writer wants character to be smart except he isn't"

the only thing Light's got for him is his thorougness, he can actually pulls off the execution of his schemes, but they're pretty bad or mediocre most of the time

>>160812867
What about the rest though?

I feel like Zero, Akagi, and Akiyama would comprise the top 3 of the list.

>>160812271
Zero is definitely smarter than Kaiji. Zero managed to teach a group of random people how to accurately calculate the square root of two to 9 decimals by hand in a short amount of time under stress when the puzzle wasn't super obvious to begin with. Kaiji needed someone else to notice that the dice game couldn't be random. Kaiji IMO isn't very "smart", but he's incredibly clever.

>>160813123
Agreed. I'm considering putting Kaiji at the very bottom desu.

>>160811479
Not that anon because I don't think misinterpret is the right word, but Akagi (the manga+anime) mostly gives a shallow impression of his character; he's just shown as this inhuman, ruthless genius throughout, with little insight into his thoughts and feelings on subjects beyond gambling. Anime-onlys take this to mean that's all there is to him.
Meanwhile Akagi in Ten literally gets 3 volumes dedicated to him explaining his thoughts, feelings, and philosophy on life to his friends and the reader.

>>160813404
I know it's gambling related but his death-seeking attitude and way of playing also applies to life in a way, you can speculate a lot about Akagi's philosophy with the manga

File: IMG_1969.jpg (265KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]

265KB, 750x1334px

>>160811479
Hey I'm the anon! What I meant by misenterpret is sort of just as you said, >>160813404 , I just lacked the wording.
I meant something like that from what I've seen, people who started off with watching or just read Akagi first usually understood him as some suicidal whack, or a "gary stu" (at first), because even though there's hints, it's not easy to discern Akagis true nature through them. He says a little something about fake pleasantries and pretending in life briefly in the beginning, but it isn't until later in washizu mahjong that we see what he considers really living.
I thought about how if you read Ten first then you would notice how Akagi's character is very consistent still, and you would understand him, even if he's an edgy 13 year old.
Or, something like that.

>>160813309
Also depends on what kind of "intelligence" we're talking. That's really book smarts, but we could talk about other rankings. Kaiji is a pretty good schemer. The tissue box thing is really his dumbest thing ever, and that was him being desperate.

Anyone have some good gambling manga recommendations? I've read all the translated Fukumoto stuff and some misc shit like Alice in Borderlands, Gamble Fish, or Usogui already

>>160814110
Liar Game.

>>160813921
Is Akagi a main character in Ten? I know the protag is Ten but I wonder how important he is

>>160814236
He's very important, yeah. The entire last arc is about him.

>>160814223
the japanese version of the show is better

the manga ending is absolutely atrocious

>>160814223
I've read that too. It was pretty good early on but kinda turned to shit near the end in my opinion.

>>160814314
It's the consensus I think. Chair and North/South were 10/10, but the last few games were weaker.

>>160814364
Can you explain the chair game to me? I forget all about it.

I loved pandemic though.

>>160814857
>dozens of people on a big island
>round start and everyone has to find a chair to sit on, at first they're not too hard to find but it gets harder since people who find chairs hide them in bushes and shit
>consecutive rounds of like 20 minutes to search for chairs and 20 minutes to get to your own chair and sit on it, at the end of each round people who couldn't sit are eliminated
>after each round, everyone gather at the center to elect a dealer who'll chose a chair number to deactivate (can't be reused), which means people have to make groups to share their votes and chairs
>also a bunch of extras who aren't participating like the candidates but can vote for dealers
>all participants have 20 medals, the winner's medals are all worth a lot of money, so they have to share their medals to form groups and/or buy votes from the extras

>basically a conquest game

Pandemic was good too

Anyone know where to read One Poker past the published volumes? bzland is dead, apparently.

>>160815726
Like just the raws?

>>160816495
Yeah. Manga-spoiler has a ten chapter gap from 217 to 227.