Lalatinabest girl
>>160656160
How would they be in a relationship?
I never thought I'd be in favor, but if Kazuma has shown to have romantic chemistry with anyone on the squad, it's Darkness.
>>160656160
>literally all Kazuma has to do to get a 10/10 piece of ass is to treat her like dog shit
>he still hasn't done it
>>160656445
He'd constantly try, and fail, to cheat on her.
She'd get wet over him doing so.
>>160656657
But why would he cheat on her when he thinks her body is ideal?
>>160656704
Because every time she does literally anything, she gives him an aneurysm.
>>160656445
Boring. She'll give him what he wants, so he'll be satisfied and deny get the attention and abuse she craves. Kazuma isn't a dom or a sadist so much as he is lazy and irate.
Eventually she'll get bored and try to provoke him by embarrassing him in public and he'll take the bait.
>>160656160
The recent spoilers just soured me from Konosuba. Like real badly. I was likely to buy the novel series and the artbook soon, but finding out that Kazuma is going to be a monogamist like most MCs is just stupid. It wasn't just a week ago (LN timewise) that he talked about harems. And then he goes like this? And Darkness just gave up?
No. I ain't paying money for that.
I ended up not buying some manga series halfway because they also just fucked everything up by the end.
>>160656160
Those are some nice huge braless titties.
>>160657834
How did her boobs quadruple in size in that dress
>>160657501
Spoil me anon, who does he end up with?
Don't say Aqua
>>160658080
Meg.
>>160658221
0/10
>>160656704
Kazuma is a fountain of sexual desire. The idea of him being capable of faithfulness is ludicrous.
>>160658080
In the WN,everyone.
>>160657501
You should wait for more complete spoiler summaries.
I also have a hard time believing Kazuma is a monogamist since barely some time has passed by with Kazuma wishing to be with Iris forever and now Kazuma just forgets how he enjoyed asking what Megumin and Iris thinks of him at the castle?
>>160656160
Darkness would make a great legal wife that you use for her wealth and cheat on, and she would love it.
Actual canon otp
>>160660367
>>160658039
magic dress
>>160656160
The dude were probably be more successful if you was a bit nicer.
>>160656160
Krapzuma is too much of a pussy to actually do anything.
me x my seiyuufu
>>160657155
>he'll be satisfied and deny get the attention and abuse she craves
Except it's Lalatina. She'll be turned on by exactly that.
I want wiz to sit on my face
Needs more hmanga
>>160660396
Fuck LNs are obnoxious.
>>160661386
>>160661386
>single
>20 years old
>those tits
>secretarial attitude
I would walk her home gently.
True OTP
>they defeat the demon king
>sky cracks open, angels descend to pick up Aqua
>"guess I really was a goddess afterall"
>everyone stands in awe except Kazuma who looks depressed
>massive flashback of all their adventures to when they first met
>Aqua notices "guess it's a goodbye Hikkineeto"
>walks toward her and stick his tongue in her mouth
>start making out furiously
>megufags eternally BTFO
>>160657501
>I was likely to buy the novel series
No you weren't
>>160660396
>I don't dislike her
Fuck that expression
>>160661189
Maybe. She likes it when he gets mad at her or does something lecherous. If he's happy and taken care of, he might not be either of those things to such a degree as he is now.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Kazuma is Al Bundy.
>>160656401
I concur
>>160662902
I don't like this new meme
>>160660396
Sauce?
>>160663223
I bought the Seitokai no Ichizon and Ben-To LNs even with the import costs. But it is because of the import costs that you have to buy them in groups. Also had to save money for them.
Their manga series too. I was preparing to buy this series, but it's a good thing the volume 12 spoilers came out.
Now I know not to buy this shit.
>>160656160
Those boobs are just great even without any bras to keep them perky.
>>160663541
>even with the import costs
Lol
The books are like 8 dollars each taking that into account. Gotta save up for that
>>160656160
I would marry any girl except Aqua.
>>160663541
If you had been paying any attention to the novels for the last 7 volumes you'd know that there was no chance for harem ending.
I wouldn't marry any girl except Aqua.
>>160663873
This.
>>160663854
>meme arrowing
Aside from the main cast of girls do any of them actually like kazuma
>>160658944
>>160658080
>>160657501
Stop constantly projecting onto Kazuma. The whole story he's always trying to act cool, but is actually a weak, cowardly guy. He likes the idea of a harem, because he's horny, but he's incapable of actually being in one, he doesn't actually have that maturity. Which is the whole conceit of his character, after all. Did you honestly think the story was going to have Kazuma vindicated? Come on, that goes against the whole point of the series.
Granted, I think the romance is forced, but any harem ending would be far more forced. What makes the characters fun is that they have flaws, and they suffer due to them. Kazuma tries to impress girls, fails, and gets embarrassed. Aqua thinks to highly of herself and gets into bad situations. Etc, etc. If Kazuma actually got a harem, that wouldn't fit the theme of the story at all.
>>160663854
>it was just one week ago LN-timewise that Kazuma implied that he wanted at least a bigamy and that he earlier wanted to have a harem
>>160663974
>unironically thinking the princess had a ounce of a sliver of a chance
Fucking hell, stop crtl+f "she" and "harem" on volumes and actually read them
>>160664051
kazuma is trying to act like a guy who acts cool and is actually weak while he's actually strong
>>160664051
In the end he's a snotnosed brat.
>>160664051
>harem ending is more forced
>Darkness, Megumin, Iris, and Eris like Kazuma
>Kazuma most likely has slept with more than one woman via succ shop dreams
>Kazuma has been a piece of shit since the beginning
>makes a complete 180 to go full monogamy
>>160663996
considering his reputation as kazutrash along with those steal antics, definitely no. he's a fucking retard
>>160664116
Kazuma did want to be with Iris.
>>160664136
>>Kazuma most likely has slept with more than one woman
>This is what people who project onto Kazuma genuinely believe.
>>160664186
He implied out that he had sex with Darkness with the shop already.
>>160664083
You could fill the entire thread with things Kazuma "wanted" at some time. But of course you didn't know that, because your interest only was piqued when the word "harem" came up on volume 11 discussion.
>>160664223
They're fucking wet dreams.
>>160664083
>implying you can take Kazuma at his word, ever
His desire for a harem is just a part of the immaturity the series has been mocking Kazuma for the whole time. It's like when he got that Katana. He thinks that a long Katana would be cool and fitting, but in the end he's stuck with a tiny one.
Kazuma was never indicated to be any sort of reliable narrator. He doesn't even know what he wants, and is too often caught up in childish delusions, like the rest of the cast. Getting into a relationship feels far more like actual character development, as he's starting to realize, hey, maybe this life isn't so bad either. Maybe he's growing up.
>>160664136
>wet dreams is sex
Again, that's implying that harems are all some sort of sexual thing. In reality, like any relationship, it takes understanding and empathy, which Kazuma isn't good at. He loves the idea of a harem, but if he was actually in one he'd be miserable.
What I don't understand is that it was just one volume ago, where Kazuma talked about wanting a harem, and then he goes does this? It would be forgivable if there were more Megumin scenes before this, but Darkness also had scenes with Kazuma, and so did Iris and Eris. No one really had an upper hand, and then Kazuma just took the first one from Megumin and gave up from Darkness?
They almost had sex twice and he had sex with her dream form already.
>>160664289
Not to mention only Darkness would be up for that. No fucking way Megumin is going to share
>>160657501
For me, it really depends on how it is handled. If it's Kazuma who just suddenly gives up and thinks harems are bad, then I'll dislike it. But if it is everyone else who gives up, seeing both Megumin and Kazuma like each other, and Megumin also doesn't want to share, I'll be okay with that. It makes sense, more so than harem in my mind. Why would any girl want to share a man with other? I, for one, would not share my wife with another man, so why would the opposite be true?
In the end, if it turns out to be the latter, I would be fine with it. After he gets together with Megumin, if he still continues to be a pervert, even trying to cheat if he gets the chance, I'll be happy with that. But if he also ends up being loyal in fear of not losing the one girl he scored, but is still a pervert who would prefer a harem, I'll be okay with that too. The one thing I would not be happy with is if he just turns out to be someone not perverted, someone just believing in monogamy. That isn't Kazuma.
>>160664320
Now I'm convinced you only read summaries. He's had dream ``sex" with everyone but Aqua.
>>160664320
Well, Megumin is the only one who actually went and confessed her love to him. See: >>160663560
>>160664289
>>160664248
Hey, sameperson, wet dreams means Kazuma wants to have sex with Darkness.
Also, immaturity? The fact that Kazuma goes from harem to monogamy in a short period of time shows either insanity or more immaturity.
I would not be complaining if he had been doing this for the entire series, like Keitaro from Love Hina did. But he wasn't like that. But he turned around in ONE VOLUME.
He was a lecherous guy who visited a dream sex shop and was banging Darkness, not Megumin, but maybe Megumin too. And then he suddenly becomes a reliable good guy? That's like Rance turning into a fucking priest from one game to another.
>>160664320
It's entirely in character for Kazuma to fall for the first person who confesses to him.
>>160664332
>That isn't Kazuma.
That isn't the Kazuma you projected yourself into, you mean. How DARES the author develop the character.
>>160664367
Darkness tried to fuck and rape Kazuma. Darkness was letting Kazuma sex her up except ABS happened to them.
>>160656657
He'd run out of money and whore her out like she admits she wants
>>160664442
Delete this.
>>160664409
>develop
There's a difference between a character receiving development and a completely different character replacing the original.
>>160664395
I think it's just you ranting about this harem shit, man. You've somehow got it into your mind that Kazuma is some sort of alpha sex maniac, rather than a coward trying to cover up his insecurities. He's not a reliable good guy, he never will be probably, but you're just projecting too hard at this point. Konosuba really isn't a harem at all to begin with.
>>160664332
>I, for one, would not share my wife with another man, so why would the opposite be true?
In Asia, where this story is made from, it is far more common for men to have mistresses and those mistresses staying loyal to the men who have them.
Women sharing men is much easier than men.
If a man fucks multiple women, the offspring is his.
If a woman fucks multiple men, you don't know which man the offspring is from.
In both cases, it's the woman's offspring.
If a woman fucks
>>160664461
Oh shit, it worked!
>>160664419
Did you read the text? Kazuma says he's started feeling love for Megumin since she confessed to him. A confession did what interrupted sex scenes couldn't.
>>160664395
>crying samefag because you don't understand the difference between actual sex and an induced wet dream
>>160664489
Who gives a shit. I'm not buying this series anymore. The whiplash is just too fast. The harem ending developments culminated to volume 11. Heroines kept getting developments and flags.
And then it just completely flipped in one volume where Kazuma stopped being a jackass.
I hate it, why are you arguing with me? You ain't changing my mind.
>>160656160
Are there any shirts that can do that breast thing? Is it sexy in real life?
>>160664498
Well, again, because having a boner for someone doesn't mean any real love or anything. Kazuma is a very lustful person, but he's also pathetic and weak. He fantasizes about having a harem, but again, it's a fantasy. He'd be too weak to face something like that in reality, and in the end, it turns out, it takes a girl actually being assertive and willful to make Kazuma mature past that.
If you think about it, Megumin's acting as a really nice foil here. Kazuma talks a big game, acts rough, but on the inside he's insecure, cowardly, and feeble. Megumin's meek on the outside, but when it comes to love she's aggressive, possessive, and actually kind of a bitch.
>>160664493
You're a fucking retard, and this is coming from a nip.
>>160664569
Because you're a retard who was projecting onto Kazuma rather than actually reading between the lines, and now you're pissed because he's getting character development rather than being your self-insert.
Go read SAO or that Cellphone Isekai or something, rebbitor
>>160663516
AQUA A CUTE
>>160664569
Nobody wants to change your mind, we are just pointing out that you should stop projecting so much and reading with your dick
If you seriously didn't see this coming I feel very sorry for you
>>160664620
> this is coming from a nip.
You're an Americanized nip.
I came from Asia and traveled in Asia and lived in Asia for half of my adult life. I know families that have those relationships. You're the retard.
>>160664131
>He orders a straight and smoked meat
>Barmaid has now idea what the hell he's talking about
>He could've salvaged it by just saying "straight whiskey, and whatever smoked meat you'd recommend"
>Instead he sperged out
Was it autism?
>>160664620
>character development is a complete change in mindset one week timewise and one volume series-wise
>>160664655
He's a hikki-neeto.
>>160664655
No clearly he was being a harem king and she was a dumb bitch. There's no way my self insert is a fucking dweeb trying to act bigger than he actually is.
>>160664626
The cutest
>>160664620
>Kazuma talks a big game, acts rough, but on the inside he's insecure, cowardly, and feeble
I hope the LNs are significantly different from the anime, because that is NOT the impression I got from him.
>>160664655
It's not autism. He's just NEET.
>>160664651
Then you're just a retard regardless. I don't know how it is over in fucking Thailand or Mainland China, those are third world countries. Either way, mistresses aren't seen as normal in any place in the East, same as the west. Scandals like that shit do rock Japan a lot though, where in the west they're often swept under the rug. People lose careers over that crap.
>>160664683
Again, here's the thing, a Fantasy isn't the same thing as a life goal, and Kazuma is not too reliable anyways. For example, I often fantasize about having a yacht, sailing on the ocean and all that stuff. But if someone actually gave me one, would I take it? No, I'd probably sell it for money. There's no way I could realistically maintain a yacht, no way I could pay for the dock fees and the fuel and the staff.
Same here, Kazuma having harem fantasies doesn't mean he's Rance.
>>160664725
That was a dream to him, and there's plenty of cases where he shows his true colors. Seriously, how dense can you be?
>>160656160
Megumin actually gets the Kazuma cock though.
>“We already bathed together once, why are you still so shy? And you have already taken care of me a lot in that certain shop.”
Kazuma's OTP in the "shop" isLalatina
>>160664725
>actually looking up to Kazuma
Even the girls mock him, man. He's pathetic.
>>160664725
You know that he's only acting cocky in that scene because he thinks it's a dream right ?
The first time he meets Darkness he can't deal with her hunger, and he never actually act on his urges towards his party members (in the anime at least).
I haven't read the LNs (started volume 1), but I don't see Kazuma handling a harem properly. He'd probably pussy out or find it way too much of a pain to deal with. Im not big on how it seems that the LNs have headed toward romance though. Kazumabowl isn't really something that appeals to me.
>>160664808
Don't bother replying to secondaries they take Kazuma being alpha completely straight.
>>160664808
>don't know how it is over in fucking Thailand or Mainland China, those are third world countries. Either way, mistresses aren't seen as normal in any place in the East,
>seen
YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD.
>Scandals like that shit do rock Japan a lot
If you REALLY are a Japanese person, you fucking already know that communities do their best to hide personal and domestic issues.
In society over there, in order to not have a scandal, you just don't air your shit out in the public.
Of course no one is going to say they fuck multiple women unless they're drunk in a pub or bar, but that thing is real.
It's not just in China or Thailand or India or Siberia or Japan, that shit is real.
The fact that you don't even understand that just proves you're not even Japanese.
Aqua is the best Konosuba. You guys suck.
>>160664891
Yeah, and people have affairs in the west too. And everywhere in the fucking world. And they all hide it. That's the point. It's not seen as socially acceptable, even though obviously it's still done.
>>160664839
>he never actually act on his urges towards his party members (in the anime at least).
He was pretty much willing to fuck Darkness when they first met Vanir and only backed down because he remembered it was Darkness.
>>160664808
>Either way, mistresses aren't seen as normal in any place in the East, same as the west.
To paraphrase Bill Maher: in France, even the mistresses have mistresses. A Watergate scandal wouldn't make a French president's position any more vulnerable because it's almost expected that he has a side ho, being a powerful man and all (and despite this the French are less likely to cheat than the Germans for example).
Mistresses are a thing in most countries, whether they're socially accepted or not. And they are accepted in quite a lot of countries.
>>160664832
Until he cast "STEAL"
>>160664919
Aqua is trash.
>>160664923
I personally have relatives where the guys have multiple wives and I've also met them with the mothers taking care of another mistress' children and vice versa. I personally know housewives that know their husbands have mistresses but don't make a lot of noise because it's scandalous.
They know, the public at large doesn't know.
The fact that you don't know this exists in a manner different from a simple "affair" like it does in the west proves you're not Japanese.
Fuck, you ain't even Asian.
>>160664988
>t. Trashzuma
>>160656160
Why is Lalatina so beautiful?
>>160664960
Watergate wasn't about extramarital affairs, right?
He's going to end up with megumin and you all know it
>>160664839
>LNs have headed toward romance
They didn't. Only the odd chapter each 3 volumes is dedicated into it, most of the time it's an excuse to crack a joke
>>160664725
Kazuma only acts secure when he knows or believes there is no consequences or he can get away with it
>>160665052
No it was about extralegal surveillance of political opponents, most notably break-ins at the Watergate hotel. And now whenever there's a controversy it has -gate appended to it because the Democrats couldn't just stay at a Holiday Inn.
>>160665000
Again, what backwater part of Asia are you even from? This shit sounds awful Filipino.
>>160665046
Lalatina is beautiful, very cute and a good girl.
>>160665072
It's still mostly being used as a joke, but its been going that way ever since the confession.
its weird watching this show completely before coming to the threads.
like you'd think aqua would be the most popular here because she's retarded/fun while darkness would be second because she's only boobs. but it turns out megumin is the most popular here by a wide margin because literal pedophiles
>>160665167
Eh, it's still a silly sub-plot.
>>160665073
Like when he steals panties.
And that's called being normal. He wouldn't go around grabbing women's boobs at random. That'll get him killed. That's not being "insecure". That's being a civilized human being. He's a pervert because he never lets a chance slip. The moment gets a chance to lewd, he lewds. That's what puts him above your average insecure beta faggots.
>>160665185
Man you got us good
>>160664957
Yeah, no. It was just Kazuma getting excited by his fantasies as usual. He didn't push her down or anything, like I said : he can't act on his impulses.
The only moments where he can is in his dreams.
>>160665072
Thank God then. If it was more than that it would have killed my interest in the serie.
I guess it's just anons being way too invested in the MCbowl as usual.
>>160665185
Megumin is the most popular because Darkness is too lewd to waifu and Aqua too dumb to waifu.I still like Darkness the most.
>>160665185
>aqua would be the most popular here because she's retarded/fun
Well memed.
I find funny how people try to defend "muh generic MC development", when Kazuma acting like Rance Jr. was the main cause this shit show became popular.
>>160664725
>I hope the LNs are significantly different from the anime
If you think this sucks, just wait to see the shit show vol 5 is...
>>160665185
How about people like girls with realistic and relatable personalities?
>>160665277
I actually think Megumin's popularity is unrelated to the other girls. People just genuinely like her character, and not necessarily because she's better or different than Darkness and Aqua.
>>160665240
But Kazuma is an insecure beta faggot, he just tries to hide it with a veneer of pretending to be alpha. Not to say that he doesn't enjoy stealing panties, and he's certainly an asshole, but again, he's not Rance. He's not even THAT much of a pervert, hell, that's why he's disgusted by Darkness so much. He might be pretty clever, but he's just as weak and pathetic as any of us, really. Not some dumb self-insert of power fantasy. I have no idea how you get that from this show, when half the time the females are laughing and making fun of him.
>>160665360
>he's not Rance.
Yeah, he's not a rapist. What a fucking beta.
>>160665185
Animeonly, but I think Megumeme got popular because
>EXPLOSION is exploitable and memeworthy
>She gets a lot of development in the LN
I prefer Darkness though. She has the best and most amusing interactions with Kazushit.
>>160665312
>generic
>MC
>development
Oh lord this is too much
This haremfag is way funnier than regular shippers
>>160665312
>I find funny how people try to defend "muh generic MC development", when Kazuma acting like Rance Jr. was the main cause this shit show became popular.
This guy's right. If Kazuma wasn't acting like Rance Jr, this show wouldn't be Seinfeld in Fantasy Australia.
>>160665360
>>160665375
>he's not Rance.
Yet
>>160660396
>>160660367
That is Chapter 1, though.
And this is just like a week after Kazuma got back home after being memory wiped and then regaining his memory.
Just one week ago, Kazuma was ready to ditch Megumin to live with Iris forever.
>people actually think Kazuma acted like Rance
I thought it was just a meme. Have you guys never played a Rance game or something?
>>160665388
You'll tire of Darkness soon enough after the "I got stuck/tied to Kazuma in a tight place" fifth time.
>>160665159
>implying this shit isn't Chinese as fuck
You better go to Taiwan or Hong Kong more. The imperial harem tradition started from over there.
>>160665375
He's not a rapeless Rance, then. He's a well defined character with flaws, insecurities, and conceits. And not a reliable narrator.
Again, I don't know how anyone looks at Kazuma and says, this guy deserves a harem. Or hell, even that the girls like him all that much. Megumin genuinely likes him, Darkness has a weird fetish, but Aqua laughs at his penis and pretty much every other female in the story mocks him.
>>160665411
This is ironic, right?
>>160661386
>>160661819
>>160661843
Kazuma could have gotten a free date with her but her Christmas Cake status scared him off due to the other adventurers warning him.
>>160665445
>Just one week ago, Kazuma was ready to ditch Megumin to live with Iris forever.
Which is why I find this strange. Is Kazuma still suffering from memory wipe effects?
>>160665446
They have played as many Rance games as Konosuba volumes they have read. Rance is "le funny rape man" and people discuss novels reading only wiki summaries. Welcome to 4chan
>>160665454
You're telling me that you would enjoy Konosuba if Kazuma was just like the MC from the cellphone isekai, or, maybe even Keitaro from Love Hina? If Kazuma wasn't the way he was, then he would be close to being a pushover like the MC from Girls Bravo or To Love-Ru.
>>160665360
>I have no idea how you get that from this show, when half the time the females
Maybe from him being a perverted asshole who exploited the girls on every chance he got, to the point where he orders Megumin for pretty much a handjob at one point.
>>160665454
>looks at Kazuma and says, this guy deserves a harem
Deserve is not the right word. He is a man who would want a harem and jump at any opportunity to get one. He wouldn't hesitate for a second.
>>160660396
>the author directly adapted Kazuma's web novel line about his feelings for Megumin, but not the kiss that gets Darkness back into the Kazumabowl
>she goes on to completely give up on Kazuma
In my opinion, this confirms that Megumin has won.
>>160665474
Same. I find it strange how Kazuma is suddenly acting monogamous despite the previous volume has him enjoying his "harem" and kinda egging on Megumin and Iris to compete for his affections.
Like what the fuck, why the sudden 180 degrees?
Was this Editorial Pressure or something/
>>160665519
>He is a man who would want a harem and jump at any opportunity to get one. He wouldn't hesitate for a second.
Literally "If I was a girl I would totally be a slut"
>>160665185
I used to be such a raging Meguminfag during S1, overdosed hard then S2 gave us so much good stuff about the other girls, Aqua being awesome and pathetic at the same time, Lalatina being crazy and deparaved, Yunyun being as cute as she's bullyable.Aqua has the best body btw
>>160665446
Rance is lazy. (like Kazuma)
He doesn't want to work unless he runs out of money or has to. (like Kazuma)
He doesn't like to be talked down by women and will fuck them up because gender equality. (like Kazuma)
He hates good-looking men that get close to his heroines and has broken up impending relationships of other guys with his heroines. (like Kazuma)
He fights underhanded even when he doesn't have to. (like Kazuma)
He is weak against alcohol. (like Kazuma)
He wears green. (like Kazuma)
He likes acting cool and taking credit for things that isn't his own work. (like Kazuma)
He likes teasing women. (like Kazuma)
He's merciless to his enemies. (like Kazuma)
He's doting to imouto characters. (like Kazuma)
There's a lot of similarities. Even the Japanese picked up on that.
>>160665558
You have only read volume 11, right?
>>160665514
>You're telling me that you would enjoy Konosuba if Kazuma was just like the MC from the cellphone isekai, or, maybe even Keitaro from Love Hina? If Kazuma wasn't the way he was, then he would be close to being a pushover like the MC from Girls Bravo or To Love-Ru.
No, I'm not saying I dislike him or that I don't think he's an asshole, I'm saying the character has more complexity than just Rance Jr, and he isn't a power fantasy. Half of Kazuma's fun is when he's an asshole, the other half is when he's trying to be cool and failing.
It's not like there's only two types of characters, Beta fucks and Alpha Chads. If you ask me Kazuma is much closer to the NHK protagonist, at least in the novels where he was really bitter and sardonic.
>>160665519
Well, yeah, he was being a dick there and it's not exactly a serious emotional thing. Hell, it's entirely played for laughs.
He was fucking around, it's not like all five confessed their love to him or some shit. Again, Kazuma is an asshole. But he only takes this kind of action when he's confident he has control. He's not assertive, he's not brave. He's slimy and takes advantage of people, but he's also cowardly and weak. Like immediately after when everyone beat his ass.
>>160665558
>kinda egging on Megumin and Iris to compete for his affections.
I really have no idea what caused all this turnaround.
>>160665622
>He hates good-looking men that get close to his heroines
He didn't hate Alderp's son at all, and that's the only instance of that happening.
>>160664620
>Kazuma talks a big game, acts rough, but on the inside he's insecure, cowardly, and feeble.
He embarrassed the entire Royal Guards in fucking Daytime and he threatened the most powerful and influential nobles by hanging the threat of stripping and panty stealing in front of them.
He waves around women's underwear in public.
Shame does not exist for Kazuma.
In another kingdom, he lied to the fucking prince while betting with each other, unaware that the prince could order him executed since he is still a commoner.
>Megumin's meek on the outside, but when it comes to love she's aggressive, possessive, and actually kind of a bitch.
This is the third time Megumin blueballed Kazuma, making a new excuse everytime. And she always chooses the middle of the night to do this when Kazuma is either tired from gaming or about to fall asleep after drinking.
She never confronts Kazuma this way during daytime.
If any thing, she targets Kazuma when his mental and physical state is at his weakest.
>>160665185
To be fair, I hate Aqua all the first season. She was annoying, ungrateful, a total bitch... But after read the whole novel I realised she is the best girl (worst)... because this is a fucking comedy.
As Aquafags maybe we are few, but we are the most comfyest fanbase.
>>160665634
>more complexity than just Rance Jr
>Half of Kazuma's fun is when he's an asshole, the other half is when he's trying to be cool and failing.
Did you even read the Rance games? >>160665622
Rance isn't all-winning. If he were, most of his games would have ended in the first halves of the games.
>>160665652
Last volume mentions Kazuma gatecrashing all of Darkness's parties she is obligated to attend as a noble to keep men away from Darkness.
>>160665634
>But he only takes this kind of action when he's confident he has control.
How is this even a point you're trying to make? Yes, he's not a fucking madman. He's not sexual harassing or raping women left and right without fear of consequences. That's not being a beta. That's being a FUCKING HUMAN BEIING. The point is he's a pervert willing to exploit even his own death. He's willing to steal girls' panties out in public at any given chance. That's the exact opposite of being a beta.
>>160665690
Yamamoto. Also, Alderp was like Darkness' ideal man, and Kazuma stole her from him.
>>160665622
>>160665690
Rance is also courageous, confident, assertive, and alpha as fuck. Kazuma is weak, conniving, and clever. He's a horny fox to Rance's Alpha wolf. Sure, Rance doesn't win all the time, but the key is that he's brave and assertive. Kazuma is not.
Actually, if you ever actually played any Rance games, Kazuma is closer to the original Rance from Hikari. Where Rance was a lot more clever, sarcastic, and witty. But even then, Kazuma has not a shred of the confidence of Rance.
A better way to describe him is as a NEET trying to act like Rance, and failing most of the time. Where Rance's assholery endear people to him, Kazuma pisses people off and where girls are impressed by Rance, Kazuma gets mocked relentlessly and overpowered by Megumin.
>>160665701
>He's willing to steal girls' panties out in public at any given chance
You are taking a running gag way too seriously.
>>160665671
Actual Aquafags are few but best. Shame they got overpowered by self-insert fags that want to destroy her character
>>160665446
This. Rance isn't just a pervert, he's also extremely arrogant and isn't concerned by anything as long as it doesn't directly affect him. He's a man who doesn't have any problem with extorting money from a village he's supposed to save, or resort to banditry in order to make ends meet.
Kazuma is far from being like that. He doesn't have the confidence, and he is way more moral than rance. You won't see him kill some random dude for no reason.
>>160665622
They do share similarities. But they still are two completely different characters. Expecting Kazuma to act like Rance just because of the similarities are dumb, because the differences set them apart way too much.
Rance is a selfish arrogant perverted hero.
Kazuma is a NEET who wish he could be like Rance.
>>160665694
This, and the competing of Iris and Megumin for his affections were clear moves to make a harem ending happen. Then it just disappears in volume 12. What?
>>160665749
Rance ran away when Kenshin confessed to him.
When Kenshin gets lovey dovey, Rance is unable to handle it and escapes.
>>160665701
Like I said, he's conniving. No one's denying that. But he's not brave. He never makes the first move, he rarely does anything until he knows he'll win and he always throws others under the bus. And most of all, he talks a big game to hide his own weaknesses and vulnerabilities, let's not forget just how pathetic he canonically is statwise.
He's the best definition of an impotent asshole. He's immature, more than anything. Yes, he's not a genric beta, but he is still a spineless coward who only acts tough when he knows he'll win. He acts more like a spoiled child than anything, reminds me of Suneo.
>>160665408
>He unironically thinks nips can write something else than a non generic ending.
>>160665331
You wouldn't be watching anime then.
>>160665777
>Suneo
Heads up, americans don't know Doraemon
>>160665749
>implying Kazuma is not selfish, arrogant, and perverted
>literally stole Aqua's liquor and drank it all
>he thinks so highly of himself, he got killed in battle getting separated from his party
>steals panties and visits a sex shop constantly
People who say Kazuma is unlike Rance or not even close don't know what the heck they're talking about.
>>160665712
Rance is also conniving and clever. He has had to do the most underhanded tactics and strategies to win in every game of his. Because he was weaker than some opponents.
Kazuma is courageous in his quests, especially the castle raid, he is confident of his skills, he is assertive during his missions to the point that he sometimes dies because of it, and alpha as well when needed. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>160665668
>In another kingdom, he lied to the fucking prince while betting with each other, unaware that the prince could order him executed since he is still a commoner.
That's the point, he's unaware. If he had known he would not have acted that way. When Kazuma is confronted with actual threats, courage is generally not what he jumps to. Remember the whole trial arc?
>This is the third time Megumin blueballed Kazuma, making a new excuse everytime. And she always chooses the middle of the night to do this when Kazuma is either tired from gaming or about to fall asleep after drinking.
That's what I'm saying, she is kind of a bitch. She also goes out of her way to keep her competition off of Kazuma, like when she confronted Eris, very possessive.
But the point is that she has the courage to confess, and the determination to win him over. Kazuma, not really. He's actually pretty feeble emotionally, you can see multiple occasions where he gets hurt pretty bad.
>>160665816
Then they're fucking idiots.
>>160665777
>kazuma is not brave
have we been reading the same light novel series?
>>160665753
>the competing of Iris and Megumin for his affections
This is literally a one line internal monologue joke, like hundreds before it. Are you seriously implying this suddenly cancels out the rest of the story and is suddenly serious?
>>160665671
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/160598465
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/160632606
Please stop making /e/ threads on /a/, comfiest fanbase.
Kazuma was gatecrashing every party Darkness had to attend to shoo away other suitors.
Kazuma also wanted Megumin and Iris to fight for his affections.
Then he just says I love Megumin with all my heart.
That's in the span of one volume.
ONE
N
E
There is no metric that says this is objectively good. This isn't even subjectively good.
The fact that some people think the guy who publicly shames girls and steals their panties, jumps to his own death at times, uses his own death as an excuse to make every girl he know into doing his bidding is just "insecure, not brave and feeble" is fucking ridiculous. You're too far up your own ass to even be able to SEE properly.
>>160665902
I think they just want to make a narrative that Kazuma isn't Kazuma so the developments of volume 12 make sense. (They don't.)
>>160665834
>Rance is also conniving and clever. He has had to do the most underhanded tactics and strategies to win in every game of his. Because he was weaker than some opponents.
Rance is a cheater, but not exactly clever.
Did you even PLAY 5D's?
>Kazuma is courageous in his quests, especially the castle raid, he is confident of his skills,
He's clever, and aware, but not exactly confident or brave. He goes into situations with escape plans and always backs away from a challenge unless he can cheat or has some advantage. Rance jumps in head first, he doesn't care what methods he uses.
Again, stop projecting. It's obvious from the start that Kazuma was never intended to be bold or impressive or anyone to look up to, for fuck's sake he died pissing himself out of fear.
>>160665850
There are rare exceptions, but let's not pretend he wouldn't abandon his friends in a dark dungeon to escape.
>>160665850
He literally died of fear.
>>160665902
>>160665928
Heads up, real, confident people don't pull that shit. The ones who make a show of it are always insecure betas trying to hide their insecurities.
Are people really that dull? Do you not realize that Kazuma isn't supposed to be taken at face value?
>>160665902
But he is insecure. Only insecure people do this publicly.
>>160665347
>Megumin's popularity is unrelated to the other girls
Untrue, as the author said he failed to make her flaws be perceived as such, he made Aqua into a dumbass, bratty and arrogant drunkard, he made Darkness into a deranged and repulsive masochist, all the negative traits are played as hard as possible given the medium. On the other hand the worst he could come up with for Megumin is to make her into a generic chuuni but with actual magic, otaku welcome and eat up that kind of shit mindlessly, it's just not perceived as a flaw at all by the anime audience.
>>160665898
It happened in the first chapter, too, and only a few days after Kazuma got back his memory.
What the fuck.
Kazuma even said he was looking forward to seeing Iris grown up after a few years in the last volume.
>>160665454
>He's a well defined character with flaws, insecurities, and conceits. And not a reliable narrator.
So is Rance actually.
>>160665972
>said he failed to make her flaws be perceived as such
I'm going to need a citation. Was it in one of the afterwords, or is it your interpretation of his interview in April?
>>160665972
>he made Darkness into a deranged and repulsive masochist
That's actually what makes me like her. I find that hot. It's not a flaw in my eyes. That's not inherently a flaw. The only flawed one is Aqua.
>>160665712
>Rance
>courageous
He's actually often not he's just so arrogant he never stops to think that something will go wrong.
>>160665963
>not exactly clever
Play 01, 03, VI, VII, Quest/Magnum, and IX.
His night raids in 3, his smashing of Sieg, his killing of that blonde faggot that wanted to fuck Shizuka. There are countless other examples of Rance using the most underhanded shit, and yet he's clever too. The fucking twin tower raid in IX was basically his idea.
>implying Kazuma blitzing Mitsurugi was not cheating in a duel
>>160665963
He rushed at the Demon Army and got killed but he didn't run away even when he got surrounded. He was too overconfident.
He killed the Tranquility Girl and the Tranquility Princess in extremely sadistic, brutal ways even though they served a pretty benevolent purpose in the world of KonoSuba.
So how is Kazuma insecure and feeble when he was able to murder the Tranquility Princess even though the pros severely outweighed the cons of leaving her alone.
Kazuma killing the Tranquility Princess shows that he isn't a coward like you say he is.
An insecure beta would never have the willpower to kill a Tranquility Princess.
>>160665996
Of course they share traits, that's not the point. Expecting a novel character to act like an eroge protagonist for the whole series is what is stupid
>>160665996
People don't understand, but Rance is a well-developed character. He had 25+ years of development.
>>160666076
I'm still angry at Kazuma for doing that to the Tranquility Princess.
>>160665963
I'd argue differently. Rance is clever but he's also a slave to his desires and has no patience so he doesn't think things through. He can however come up with a lot of cunning ideas when he needs to.
Though one of the things I liked about Rance IX is that while Rance's street cunning worked against the Nero who only became a general through nepotism and corruption he was completely out manouvered by the actual professional, veteran generals and needed Tourin.
>>160666076
>He killed the Tranquility Girl and the Tranquility Princess in extremely sadistic, brutal ways even though they served a pretty benevolent purpose in the world of KonoSuba.
Tranquility Girl death was offscreen.
Please, take more effort on your shitposting instead of spouting shit you read on yesterday's thread.
>>160666118
You know Kazuma's only option was Freeze or Tinder, right?
So burning to death by Kazuma or freezing to death by Kazuma were two options for the Tranquility Girl.
>>160665898
>>160665979
I think you people are taking fantasies and fucking around for Kazuma's big love. Again, Fantasies aren't the same as relationship goals.
As for Darkness, It's obvious he cares for her, whether as a friend or whatever. His motivation there wasn't exactly lust or wanting to build a harem. He would probably say that's what he wanted, because, again, this is the lie the character believes.
I know that most LN protagonists are one-dimensional idiots, but don't characterize Kazuma as such because you can't read between the lines. Do you think, say, Dustin Hoffman in Midnight Cowboy is genuinely suave and cool, or is that just an act? Do you think that all Rance cares about is sex, and nothing else? When Rance inevitably realizes he's in love with Sill, will you complain about the fact that his character is all different now? Come the fuck on.
>>160665996
I agree. The point is they're not equivalents, or even really good points of comparison.
>>160666035
Bravery and idiocy are very similar.
>>160666043
I never denied that Kazuma was a cheater, I'm saying there's more to his character than being a Rance copy. Again, he's more like a pathetic guy trying to be Rance, than Rance himself.
Rance in the early games was very clever, I've played them and I agree. But the writing definitely took a different direction, everyone knows that.
>>160666076
Yes, because insecure people never kill anyone else. Elliot Rodger was a total Chad.
>>160666115
To some extent, but that's generally not the way his character is written. I will say though, that even Rance is one-dimensional as people think. He has a tender side to him and over the course of the games he's definitely realized there's more to life than sex. He just doesn't admit that to himself because, again, Lie the character believes.
>>160666173
He also has a sword.
>>160666196
>>160666118
>using a fucking sword to kill a kid looking humanoid
>not sadistic or brutal
>>160666115
>has no patience so he doesn't think things through
Eh, no. While he can be impatient, he can also formulate plans and bide his time. It's the only way he survived some of the shittiest crap he got himself into, especially in VI.
Rance has beaten professional generals before (03/III) as well. Lelukov was just the best strategist Helman had to offer. Any other general would have been fooled, but Lelukov could read his moves.
Also, because it is now canon, we know Rance wrecked Takeda's grand strategy, of which Tourin and his fellow generals developed it, in Sengoku.
>>160666214
>humanoid
It's a fucking plant.
Lalatina is so cute.
>>160666188
>Rance in the early games was very clever, I've played them and I agree. But the writing definitely took a different direction, everyone knows that.
>implying Rance became less clever as the series went on
Rance 6 is the latter half of the game series. So is Sengoku. And so is IX. They had to get the best strategist Helman had to offer to stop Rance from snowballing into the capital city. And if you played IX, you'd keep seeing Tourin agreeing with Rance's decisions a lot. He just modified them to work.
>>160666214
Tranquility Princess was going into toxic shock right in front of Kazuma and he didn't even blink an eye even as she was dying and cursing at him.
Kazuma is cold blooded as fuck. A literal sociopath.
>>160665972
How does that relate to my post? My point is that people don't need to constantly compare Megumin to the others to know that they prefer her. You like a character because of who they are, not because there's a significantly worse one right next to them.
>>160666279
I am disappointed if she doesn't become Kazuma's mistress.
>>160666292
>sociopath and haremfag are the same guy
You can't make this shit up. I bet you'd prefer the monster added to Kazuma's Aplha Harem plan, right?
>>160666188
Later series Rance is just as clever.
>>160666236
>Rance has beaten professional generals before (03/III) as well
Rance bet professional generals in 03 by bringing tanks to a sword and spear battle. Hardly tactical genius.
>>160656160
>humanoid (/ˈhjuːmənɔɪd/; from English human and -oid "resembling") is something that has an appearance resembling a human being
>has an appearance resembling a human being
>>160665972
>On the other hand the worst he could come up with for Megumin is to make her into a generic chuuni but with actual magic
And that's how I know you're an anime-only. Megumin is just a flawless chuuni, who bullied her friend to tears several times in middle school, killed dozens of domesticated ducks for XP and food, taught the Axis cult how to con people, tried several times to give up on Chomusuke to save her own life, manipulated Kazuma into accepting her by acting like a hungry little girl and still frequently manipulates him and the others to get what she wants, refused to give up her mana to help the party out of a dangerous situation, tried to pull several pranks on the nobles out of sheer autism and fucking causes as much trouble as the other girls. But people like her in spite of that, so stop looking for shitty excuses as to why your favorite is less appreciated than her.
This >>160666352
For you >>160666262
>>160666333
>implying Rance didn't do a night raid that caught the Helman army in disarray
>implying Rance using a new technology for war and applying it properly is not genius, especially if you see how stupid people were in WW1 with regards to plane, tank and machine gun doctrine before they saw their mistakes months later
>>160666377
It's a plant. A fucking plant who kills humans.
>>160666375
I don't really like Megumin. Sounds like a horrible girlfriend.
>>160666441
She's the only one who would be a decent girlfriend.
posting best girl
>>160666441
Fitting for a horrible boyfriend like Kazuma
>>160666419
man I want to fuck this plant
megumin is cute
>>160656160
Iris is the true rute. I can't wait to see megutards, darknessfags and haremfags being BTFO by the author.
>>160666461
Megumin doesn't really improve Kazuma though.
Iris actually gets Kazuma to stop drinking and play with her, instead.
>>160666563
Don't forget Aquafags, they also desperately want the Kazudick.
>>160666596
But she does, she just converted him to monogamy.
>>160666596
>Megumin doesn't really improve Kazuma
She makes him open up and share his insecurities. That alone is way more than anyone else has done for him.
Don't compare Iris indulging his imouto and sustained NEET fantasies to that
>>160662902
>when someone picks up your pasta
Aqua is going to win the Kazumabowl, Megutards on suicide watch
>>160666895
I saved it when I first saw it, thanks for making it.
>>160666458
>not Yunyun
Please.
>>160666973
I only thought of the main trio when posting this, but sure. Some people do like Yunyun's type.
>>160666107
Was she cute? Was losing her actually a loss?
>>160667422
She was a forest sized plant monster who used a human shaped appendage to lure and kill men in order to obtain fertilizer, shielding beneath the facade of a peaceful and kind euthanasia
Kazuma did the right thing and poured some herbicide on the bitch
>>160661421
>gets paid to flatter adventurers and make them feel nice about themselves
Litterally a whore.
>>160666973
Yunyun is for neglecting and ignoring.
>>160668724
This is wrong and you know it.
>>160669040
You must be over 18 to post here, Yunyun.
>>160669053
Don't give her a (You), anon.
Wait, aren't Tranquility Girls monsters that kill humans? Why are people shaming Kazuma for killing it?
>>160669148
Kazuma is bad because he didn't fuck my waifu, so everything he does is bad now, and the novels are getting worse.
>>160669148
t. scumzuma
Kazuma doesn't deserve Darkness, Wiz, or Yunyun. He's better off with the 2 lesser girls
>>160666829
Megumin can't prevent Kazuma from lying.
Meanwhile, Kazuma can't keep up his lie when confronted by Aqua.
Megumin fails to see through Kazuma's lies.
Kazuma has no problem keeping secrets and lying to Megumin.
On the other hand, its impossible for him to lie to Aqua in the end.
>>160667753
Nice lie, Meguminfag.
>>160669959
So what? She has to talk with him to understand his thoughts, isn't that textbook romance?
>>160669148
Because people who live in KonoSuba who get cancer can only commit suicide since no hospital exists or suffer to death.
>>160670008
She doesn't actually understand his thoughts. She doesn't even know Kazuma's first heartbreak.
All Megumin does is confuse Kazuma by confessing to him and Kazuma just goes with the flow.
He hasn't even been going with her to her daily explosions in a long time since Megumin started going with YunYun instead.
Megumin wasn't someone Kazuma showed signs of missing or desire to hang out with even after the confession.
There's actually lack of want from Kazuma's end. It is always Megumin who seeks Kazuma out. Kazuma isn't really doing the chasing.
>>160670087
Why do you people latch so hard to lost causes?
>>160670017
>believing the monster's lies
Don't speed read, please. Or are you genuinely that low IQ?
>>160670087
>She doesn't actually understand his thoughts.
Not until they talk, no. But their discussion filled up the latest volume's first chapter and had many exchanges of thoughts. Also, you say that she doesn't know about his first heartbreak, but neither do any of the other girls, and certainly not Aqua who doesn't understand Kazuma beyond the traits they have in common.
I also don't see how she's "confusing" Kazuma when he himself explained to Darkness that his romantic feelings for Megumin developed over time, meaning they didn't appear in the spur of the moment.
>Megumin wasn't someone Kazuma showed signs of missing or desire to hang out with even after the confession.
They went on a date in volume 12.
>There's actually lack of want from Kazuma's end.
Kazuma suggested they make babies. Also, pic related.
>>160670272
like attracts like
>there are people who still believe this won't be a megumin end
>>160670393
if you gave aqua a pair of panties, what would she do with them?
>>160670417
Magic trick them out of existence
Or turn them into a pidgeon
>>160670417
Try to eat them probably
dogs are pretty dumb
>>160668080
It's called "cheerleader". And she isn't a whore if there's no sex involved.
>>160670353
You're ignoring how Kazuma treated Megumin after her first confession. She was put aside with no further pushing from Kazuma's end.
>Kazuma suggested they make babies.
Kazuma was perfectly okay with making babies with YunYun too.
>but neither do any of the other girls, and certainly not Aqua
Aqua has access to Kazuma's life story. When Kazuma was bragging about his exploits in a MMO, Aqua was about to reveal it was just a video game.
>>160670555
>She was put aside with no further pushing from Kazuma's end.
That's the whole point, how can you be so dense? He pushes away the moment things get real, so Megumin is the one who has to be assertive
>>160669959
>>160670087
>>160670555
I thought reddit spacing was a meme but here we are
>>160670555
I didn't ignore it. As I said, his feelings developed over time and he's actively seeking her as of volume 12. Kazuma himself told Darkness that it wasn't spontaneous, but progressive.
>Kazuma was perfectly okay with making babies with YunYun too.
So what? You said that there's a lack of want from Kazuma's part, and the fact that he wants to make babies with Megumin proves you wrong regardless of whether he felt the same way about Yunyun in the past. He also said many other things in chapter 1 that prove you wrong.
And it doesn't even matter if she doesn't know about his first heartbreak. It's something Kazuma mentioned literally once and that he didn't develop on. It doesn't define his character.
It might be the reason why he's so careful around women, but aren't his feelings for Megumin the proof that she helped him get over it despite not knowing about it?
>>160670614
Megumin remained wishy washy even after her first confession and now she even makes new rules that benefit her and not Kazuma.
>>160670753
How is it not spontaneous? There was no desire for Megumin when Kazuma reunited with Iris again.
There was actually less progression after Megumin's first confession.
You can deny all you want but there was no buildup to this in the previous volume.
It's just another sudden confession from Megumin once again and then Kazuma suddenly says he loves Megumin.
>>160670798
>makes new rules that benefit her and not Kazuma
It's not a competition of who can benefit more form the other, anon.
>>160670907
It wasn't spontaneous because Kazuma himself said it.
>>160670907
I know that you are used to anime epilogue resolutions or "I've always loved you", but most relationships work that way, slowly over a long period of ineracting together
>>160670965
so Aqua wins?
>>160671015
That would require Kazuma to end his relationship with Megumin, even though he himself wished that everything would stay this way forever.
>>160671015
You're an idiot.
>>160671015
Aqua's a bro, you don't fuck a bro.
>>160671092
It's not homo if balls don't touch.
>>160670633
"Reddit spacing" is a meme. People have separated paragraphs on 4chan for years.
I wish all mobile posters would be fucking banned. This place would be so much better without you.
>>160671092
bros you want to fuck are marriage material
>>160666375
Half of these are based on survival needs that almost anyone would do in the same situation
She's mischievous at the absolute worst, it's not nearly as bad as being a fundamental retard or pervert
>>160671597
>want to fuck
That's the triky part about Aqua...
>>160671783
She doesn't have to be as bad. >>160665972 said she was just a generic chuuni to explain her popularity. It's not true.
>>160671574
Don't ``quote'' me bro. Those are not paragraphs, they are just sentences. And when retarded people write that way, it's more noticeable the same way retarded ESLs are
Everyone here seems to be forgetting the real OTP
>>160672458
They were really cute when they were acting like lesbs.
>>160672509
Lesbs are jsut 12 year old girls that never grew up
>>160664051
It is harem light novel if it wasnt harem why would he put harem tag
Harem light novel should end with harem end any other end is shit end
>>160672670
>It is harem light novel if it wasnt harem why would he put harem tag
Are you actually this stupid?
>>160672670
>why would he put harem tag
Show me the tag sweetie
>>160661819
Faster, dammit!
>>160661819
>>160673726
someone please do the needful and make a party hard edit
>>160673750
Hi, google translate!
>>160673794
>doesn't know about the needful
>>160671574
>type one sentence, double space, write another sentence, double space, etc
>this happens on multiple posts by the same posters
>not reddit spacing
There is a difference between double spacing a paragraph, and double spacing sentences. Anyone who has been here long enough would know this.