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Reminder that Jeanne d'Arc, the Slut of Orleans, has partaken in handholding, walks in the moonlight, elopement, lewd smiling, meal sharing, promise making and cheek rubbing with Sieg.
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>>160557143
I'd do that too!
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Reminder that this Apocrypha goes to shit immediately after Siegfried gives his heart to Sieg. It's going to be a long 7 more weeks.
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>>160557242
I was told there was still the thing with Vlad to look forward to.
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>>160557287
>Vlad the Implier
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>>160557242
>implying it wasn't shit to begin with
Tell me, Fatefags why is this show so BAD? Sure, Urobutcher was an edgelord, but at least he knew how to actually fucking write.
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>>160557143
Her alter approves.
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This is a boy.
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>>160557423
People are raving about Asolfo but Modred is literally "Draw a girl, call it a boy"
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>>160557143
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>>160557345
>Urobutcher was an edgelord, but at least he knew how to actually fucking write.

Well that's debatable, but for Apoc imagine the Fate route romance done 10x worse, eclipsing all other parts of the story, and not even setting up things for later routes.
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>>160557423
>>160557494
>boy (female)
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>>160557423
That thing has tits. No way it is male. I'm not even sure why Mordred even gets so assblasted about being called a girl and then goes on to reveal as much of her tits as possible.
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>>160557143
>Gilles cucked out of his holy maiden
It's so bad I want to kms
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Show me your moves, Jeanne!
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>>160557696
Your neetself has tits so what's the issue?
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>>160557583
What later routes, Astolfofag?! This is a LN and a finished story.
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>>160557143
she's got a short life.. ofc she wants to bang some dude
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this episode was really boring
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>>160557937
Isn't that a lance with a bit of cloth at the end?
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>>160557143
>the Slut of Orleans
Say that again and we'll have big trouble.
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>>160557937
Where is this from?
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>>160557937
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>>160557143
Why are so many weebs jealous about Jeanne behaving like a normal teenage girl?
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>>160557937
YAAASS QUEEN WAVE THAT FLAG
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>>160558609
Do normal girls usually fall in love with dolls?
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>>160557937
It seems the French really like waving white flags.
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>>160558609
Cant have their waifu want to fuck a guy!
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>>160557696
everybody has a chest, anon. I don't know what your problem is
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>>160557242
>It's going to be a long 7 more weeks.
Confirmed secondary.
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>>160558535
The Slut of Orleans!
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>>160558609
Because Saints are all supposed to be pure and never have the pleasure of falling in love. They are meant to be an existence that no man could ever grasp.
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>>160557696
Mordred wants to be like her dad who is a dude as far as she knows. That's why she doesn't like being referred as a girl. On the flip side, Mordred hates having to hide who she is with that bulky armor so when left to her own devices she naturally gravitates towards skimpy clothes.
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>>160557143

Don't forget about Jannu's new ability to create cookies.
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>>160558678
I would have been more accepting if she got wet for Siegfried instead and we ended up with a forbidden servant romance.
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>>160558644
In Fate they do.
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What's it like to rape a heartless homunculus?
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>>160559025
Cold tuna sex. She would just lie there like a dead fish and allow you to do whatever you want to all her holes.
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>>160558734
7 more weeks until next season starts and then there will be other shit actually worth watching.
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>>160558846
I bet they were Laeticia's cookies. She was going to enjoy them later and now she can't anymore.
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>>160557242
Wait, this was the good part?
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Just watched the ep. I think Black Team left poor Gordes laying on the ground when they left. He probably woke up alone and wondered what the hell happened.
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>>160559569
Yes
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>>160557143
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>>160558808
Didn't a couple saints have partners/wives though?
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What sort of French magic does she use to project cookies?
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>>160560036
The same Shirou used to trace a blanket in the DEEN FSN animu
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>>160560036
Not magic, miracles, son. That's far above mere pagan magicks and people's inability to not label literally everything non-science as magic.
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>>160560131
It's already been stated in like every fucking Fate material that Shirou can project other things, it's just that he excels in swords. Come on, faggot.
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>>160559100
That'd probably be nice. Better than these much acclaimed sex robots, at least.
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>>160557143
strong and thick dragon dick
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>If Apocrypha became a Romanian love comedy about Sieg and Astolfo's blossoming love I would watch it.
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>>160559791
That face looks disturbingly lewd.
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What even is the point of a ruler? So the backstabbing and scheming is clean? So that one-sided fights are fair?
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OTP
T
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How will Sieg react to taking his first shit? Shitting is actually kind of terrifying if you don't understand what's happening.
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>>160560417
It's called being happy, anon.
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>>160560493
Basically yes. In the story of Apocrypha she's practically only there as a plot device so Sieg can exist.
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>>160557939

moobs are different
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>>160560493
So I can get a defensive buff against all classes when I play FGO.
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>>160560417
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>>160560562
only if you read summaries, secondary-chan.
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>>160560591
And also not do any effective damage because Ruler is neutral in both attack and defense, you shitter.

>>160560662
Or if you've actually read the LN and realize how completely pointless having her in the story is in the bigger picture.
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>>160558675
Go back to 9gag.
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>>160560645
My Jeanne is so cute.
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>>160560729
She was summoned to stop Amakusa, the last war's Ruler who had gone rogue and dangerous.
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>>160560884
No shit, and?
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>>160557143
You think Jannu will get summoned into Strange Fake's fucked up war too?
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>>160560909
And pointless is your bickering, because she had been sent to be his opposition. That's her role.
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>>160557143
Reminder that Jeanne is a slut that only cared about MC after he had a dragon cock while Astolfo was by his side when he had a tiny homunculus cock.
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>>160557143
That should be Remove Jeanne.

Astolfo and Sieg had a good thing going on, and now Jeanne is showing up out of nowhere and trying to break the two apart. That's called homewrecking.
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>>160560971
She's too low stakes for such a war. Think along the lines of Jesus
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>>160560995
Yes, and her role is completely fucking pointless in the grail war. She's a plot device entirely.
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>>160561005
>>160561021
Them dank memes, guys.
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>>160560869
shes a slut
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>>160561066
She's a waifu device.
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>>160561066
Explain to me why it's so pointless then, oh wise one.
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>Best girlfriend
>Best girl
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>>160560412
Who wouldn't? Their relationship actually progresses in a cute and natural way.
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>>160560330
It'd be fun experimenting on her and trying to get a reaction out of her.
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>>160557143
Do not lewd the catholic saint
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>>160561199
Yeah, so cute and natural he got his """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""lover""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" killed and someone else had to kill himself to revive him.
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>>160561021
fuck off with your trap shit
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>>160560540
Imagine being Jannu. The rest of the Servants can disappear at will and have no need for sustenance, and meanwhile Jannu is having to shit in the woods every night without getting to clean herself.
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The cookies were made with dragon's sperm
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>>160561426
She fucking lives with a nun at a church in Trifas FFS. It's in the LN.
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>>160561495
Thats a nice place to picnic
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>>160561021
Astolfo loves and wants the strong and thick dragon dick too.
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A cat is fine too.
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>>160561623
Holy shit fix your render settings.
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>skipping Jeane and Seig's living together
So is /a/ ready for Sieg's farming simulator cut ins?
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>secondaries trying really hard to provoke discussion for this show by calling waifus shit and still failing threads
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>Sieg is the only person who can stop Amakusa (Shirou Kotomi) and his retarded wish to happen, and that is why Counter Force chose to use it, and at the end of the series, Sieg kills Amakusa (Shirou Kotomi).

Please go back /MAL/ and and continues reading the Fai's spoilers, secondary-kun!
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>>160561426

Jannu already knows how to shit. Sieg is going to be terrified when his first turd begins to emerge.
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>lewding Catholic saint
Ok, Ciel I could forgive because there's a precedent of sorts for executors to get a pass on the whole 'morality' thing, but this is really pushing it, Japan.
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>>160564595
Then Sieg can ask Jannu all about it.
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>>160558845
>her father is a male

so un-21th century
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>>160564807
>i'm going to teach you something important about how to live!

>>160564790
Is this really worse than regularly lewding 11 year olds?
>Catholic
Hmmm maybe don't answer that
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>>160558845
>Mordred wants to be like her dad who is a dude as far as she knows
Did Seibah literally never take her helmet off?
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>>160564926
Never. At feasts and shit they would make mutton-smoothies for her.
But dark-age blenders sucked so she has PTSD from that.
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Lewd
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>the only surviving description of Vlad Tepes from somebody who actually met him depicts him as having 'fair hair and deeply-set green eyes'
>tfw if Mordred hadn't be in this war, Vlad would have been a Saber-clone
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>>160564926
I don't know if you're baiting but people just thought Saber was a feminine dude.
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Why is she such a slut?
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>jeanne refers to astolfo as kanojo
>translated as he
Memes are in full force as usual I see
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>>160557143
Maaya Sakamoto is wasted in this role. Give me more KnK instead.
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>>160559025
I think she would be one to rape. I mean look how savagely she destroyed a grown ass man and he just take it without even fighting back.
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>why is the maid of of orleans a fucking saint so kind to the lost!
>it doesn't make sense!
gee, I wonder why a saint is kind?
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>>160565150
Isn't there a bigger version of this?
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>>160565639
>Mordred had to put up with his trash-talking every damn day
Personally I find that WAY more sympathetic than the whole 'daddy doesn't love me' thing.
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Such a little slut.
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>>160565550
>Toole (トゥール, Tūru?) is a female homunculus of Yggdmillennia.

>One of the homunculi created by Gordes. Though her Magic Circuits are meager, she excels in fighting ability and inspiration, so she was selected as a commander. Just as told in the novels, battle-type homunculi have extremely short lifespans, with a limit of two to three months of life.[18] For a homunculus, she has a neat and lively personality. If we were describing her using visual novel or light novel terminology, then she would be the “female teacher-type who has sex appeal, but is unfortunately coarse and ill-mannered”.

>At Gordes’ request, she has taken charge of thoroughly beating up his son. Naturally, his wife protested when their son was beat up, so Toole beat her up and beat up Gordes too while she was at it, winning supremacy over their family. It is said that, for three months, this homunculus stood at the top of the Musik family.[18]
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>>160565735
Mordred was just a random knight before the rebellion so Gawain probably never even talked with her once. Besides, he was too busy being angry at Lancelot for killing his brothers and cucking the King and stuff.
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So, to be able to watch my waifu getting smothered by a dragon dick, i need to self insert into Sieg, right?
r-right?


why the fuck she doesn't crave the (You) dick in fgo
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>>160565639
Gawain is a fag.
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>>160565224
Caliburn and Excalibur literally give a "Yup, that's totally a dude, that's the King awright" aura that more or less brainwashes people.
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>>160565798
The wife had to watch her son and husband be raped by a soulless creature. How the fuck did she get away with it all?
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>>160565888
>getting lectured by the Redman about royalty and saving people
truly he was indeed a fag
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>>160565926
By being alpha as fuck.
I bet they missed it after her lifespan was over.
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>Jeanne slutting around in another girl's body.
This is rape.
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>>160557143

So Sieg ends up banging the girl after Jeanne leaves her? I see, I see.
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>>160565985
I honestly cannot blame the Knights of the Round for having autism when Arthuria also had autism. Shirou was like the first person ever in her whole life she actually opened up to.
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>>160566003
The girl consented to let her use her body. Of course it seems whatever you do to her body doesn't actually affect her so she says.
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>>160565926
>>160565989
>you will never be femdom'd by a cute uncaring homu
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>>160566021
>Shirou was like the first person ever in her whole life she actually opened up to.
That was actually Merlin.
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>>160566081
All Merlin did was troll her.
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>>160565870
Once Sieg is released as a servant she'll have ship teasing lines for him won't she?
He better not get any from jalter
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>>160566065
Laeticia probably thought it'd be alright since Jannu was pure.
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>>160566081
>Merlin
>Ever being helpful
He was an IRL shitposter.
Even on Avalon all he keeps doing is shitpost on Avalonchan and catfish people with his idol blog.
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>>160561058
but she has personal connection to Prelati, who has mentioned it would be fun to break her
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>>160566003
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>>160566112
I will fucking burn this shitter if he ever decide to come as a welfare or if i have shit luck and actually roll him

I don't like Jalter that much, Vanilla Jeannu is my waifu and this shitter should stay away from her

can we please at least get a version of VanillaJeannu for (You) only?
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>>160566110

They destroyed Jeanne's luggage so they wouldn't have to draw additional outfits for her to wear. Hidoi!
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>I want a sex scene between Sieg and Astolfo in anime
Is it Too much to ask?
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>>160565616
Yeah I got it right here.
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>>160558164
what went so wrong?
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>>160565012
why would anyone do this to a car ?
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>>160561495
>This Allow me to seduce you with a single cookie
Jeanne is a poor slut
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>>160566096
>>160566144
Still doesn't change that Saber had opened up to Merlin and even went on journeys together with him. Whether Merlin's advice was helpful or not is another story.
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When do we get the OST?
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>>160566488
Well yeah, Jeanne was a poorfag, that's kind of her thing. Gilles was the one with all the money to blow on sweet eldritch tomes and child-torture dungeons.
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>>160566547
I thought that was Prelati's thing and he roped Gilles into it
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>>160561527
Why doesn't she use the restroom inside the church then?
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>>160565639
>>160565888
You have the one with Nero?
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>>160558845
>wants to be like her dad
>Gets fucking killed by Arturia

Get fucked Mordred.
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>>160565870
>I will always remain by your side. Through hardship and sorrow, we will overcome it together. Now, let's work hard master!

I wish it wasn't said platonically. Saber Jeanne when?
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Is there a specific order this series of shows is meant to be watched?

I've started on Zero but I get the feeling this is meant to be some sort of prequel and I've started in the wrong place
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>>160567063
Read the VN
Do whatever.
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>>160567063
Start and stop with the VN. Everything else is secondary bait.
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>>160567063
Don't read the VN like
>>160567264
>>160567613
say its a waste of 60 hours of your time just watch the anime instead.
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>>160567837
Secondary detected
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>>160567837
m8 the anime misses stuff, so its good to at least read the source material so you get the full picture.
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>>160568372
And HF doesn't have an anime.
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>>160568452
it is getting movies though, and hopefully they don't suck.
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>>160557143
I didn't think I'd be saying it, but I hope Astolfo comes back and gets with Sieg. Jeanne feels like she's getting in the way of best "girl".
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>>160568557
Even then the idea that you can skip the VN and just watch the anime is pretty stupid. Even if the anime are perfect HF won't be complete before the end of 2019 at the earliest.
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>>160568452
And neither does HA.
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>>160568609
I meant end of 2018 at the earliest. All three movies by the end of 2019 is much more reasonable.
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>>160559025
>>160565798
Cute! CUTE! C U T E!!!
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>>160565012
When the car is moving it's gonna look like she's moving backwards. Weird.
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>>160568614
HA would be shitty for a straight up anime mostly because it can't decide what the shit it wants to be, it goes from full on SoL to batshit as time goes on, and the secondaries are too used too all action all the time for comfy.
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>>160565798
>However, perhaps having despaired at having reached rock bottom or having become honest after having his pride smashed to pieces, he unexpectedly displays conspicuous and energetic efforts afterwards.

>To be frank, he was a character who was supposed to have died from Siegfried's punch in the first volume's plot. I made him have a hand in quite few inhuman deeds, but due to portraying him as incompetent too much, his humorous characterization was strengthened and it actually became hard to kill him instead.

>Since he survived, even though there was no reason to portray him, for some reason he regained his value in the third and fourth volumes, and in the end somehow became one of the characters who came back home alive.

>Well, he's surrounded by homunculi who witnessed him fall to rock bottom once, so if he turns back towards his family and magecraft without fearing shame, his family might actually make a comeback.

>For the sake of that as well, he first intends to train his son who he raised to be just like him. “You seem to think you're incredibly cool, but you're actually just like me, so if anything, you're like that…” “Really…?” “Really…”
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>>160558587
This is the speed Jannu uses to suck Dragon cock.
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>>160569072
Sequel with Gordes Jr. and Toole when?
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>>160567063
Zero is a prequel, but start from there anyway. It's better than the original work and you'll be spoiled for Zero if you know the original. Zero also spoils some stuff from the original, but the original is inferior anyway.
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Reminder that Sherlock is the superior Ruler
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>>160569361
is he in fate shit too?
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>>160569598
He's in Grand Order, and he's amazing.
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>>160560297
To a limited extent. Shits he can't understand/structure grasp properly come out hollow, like the electronics in the shed, or Divine Constructs.
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>>160569714
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>>160569999

https://youtu.be/c8FKIEMXmos
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>>160557494
No, everyone calls her a girl, only she wants to get called a boy.

Everyone calls Astolfo a boy, only g/a/y's call him a girl.
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>>160568614
Bazett does not get anywhere near enough love.
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Is there a single lesbian servant?
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>>160570414
Japan doesn't think lesbianism is real. So no.
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What they are doing??
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>>160566003
No, she clearly said that whatever happens to Ruler, nothing happens to the girl. Jeanne can suck a billion dicks, and Leticia will still be a pure french girl.
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>>160570581
So does Leticia's hymen regenerate?
Does Ruler have an Avalon-analogue?
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>>160570414
no, one of them are single
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>>160570414
Maybe Medea, judging from how she treated Saber.
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poor Astolfo
fuck blond bitch
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>>160570515
>esl
sniffing him duh
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>>160570414
Maybe if FGO's female servant is canon.

It isnt.
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>>160566292
That's not even all of them
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>>160570515
Does... does his ahoge have an ahoge?
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>>160565845
She was one of the Knights of the Round Table, not a random knight
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>>160570734
>female servant
female PC I mean
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dragon dick
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>>160558581
Some old Grand Order PV or something don't worry about it
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>>160570950
Dragon dick.
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>>160557143
Well now, let's be fair. She died young and she spent a good portion of her life around fit young men in various states of undress.

She has every right to snag some D while she's back on Earth.
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>>160571133
>>160557143
Reminder that Jeanne intended to go back to being a villager, get married, and have children once the war was won. Her mission at the time was just more important than sex or children.
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>>160565150
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>>160565150
?
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>you will never travel back in time and save Jeanne with mundane future knowledge.
Feels bad.
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I don't get it, so does Sieg have a fake heart right now?
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>>160571475
Real Jeanne is a crazy person that'll kill people because she had a dream
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>>160571490
Pretty much. Siegfried did a transplant.
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>>160571544
but why didn't it disappear when the servant died
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>>160571523
>implying God doesn't hate the English
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>>160565150
>>160571462
Still not as bad as Shirou
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>>160571564
Law of 'Because TYPEMOON says it works that way'
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>>160571462
>No Magical Girl Seiba

Why is Takeuchi such a hack?
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>>160571577
if God is all powerful why didn't he just smite them instead of sending a virgin fucking woman to fight it's battle
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>>160571564
EMIYA's arm didn't vanish from Shirou when he got SHADOWED.
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>>160571631
this is the other thing that kind of bothers me, there should be like actually infinitely more nameless heroes, or heroes name we don't know of if time doesn't matter
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If Seigfred is dead, then what is with the opening scene where he fights Mordred?
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>>160571616
He thought it'd be hilarious for a virgin french peasant girl to btfo of the English
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which one?
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>>160571775
he later thought "lol, wouldn't it be funny if they just burned that bitch?"
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>>160571775
Then the French rallied around her memories and got mad. And kicked the English out of the continent.
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>>160571798
Which one has the best Riding skill?
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>>160557696
If Merlin turned Arturia into a futa, why can't Mordred be a boy with tits?
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>>160566267
>get siegfried's alpha male /fit/ body
>suddenly every girl wants his dick
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>>160571751
That's Transformed Sieg
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>>160565926
By raping her too.
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>>160571918
Not only does he gets his heart, he can Henshin as well?
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>>160571751
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Gordes did nothing wrong
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>>160571987
Not yet. He gets that after he is killed by Mordred and inadvertantly revived by Fran's suicide attack.
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>>160571987
Yeah, he's even better than him at the end though only for 3 minutes
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>>160571995
He even gets command seals?
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>>160572023
>cockblocked from killing an enemy with Siegfried's NP
Fucking why?
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So why does no one give a shit about all the other Homunculus?
See, I'd be cool if this were a Homunculus Revolution and Sieg was the leader figure or something but there's nothing of the sort. All the other Homunculus are super disposable and no one gives a shit about them, one scene that specially struck with me was Astolfo skipping out of the castle Sieg in hand and a bunch of other Homunculus lying down on the floor all bloody and hurt with dead eyes of someone who has given up on surviving but not a single fuck is given about them and Astolfo keeps happily humming as he passes by them. Why is this cunt so fucking special everyone and their mom loves and the everything revolves around? It's just plain sickening to see.
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>>160567063
Zero is a shit show. If you started with it too bad you'll never experience the true franchise.
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>>160571762
Wow. I'm amazed someone took the time to make this. Working on it out of respect.

Although seriously
>not sticking all your points into Noble Phantasm
Has there even been ONE servant who ever died to a conventional attack? You might as well have invested in 'basket weaving' otherwise.
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>>160572115
Because A-1 fucked up the scenes so it made no sense in the anime.
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>>160572083
Counter force son, he was guided to absorb fran's power.
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>>160572115
People bitch at him because it would not have worked on Achilles because of his invincibility but how the fuck was Gordes supposed to know that? He was 100% right on Siegfried attitude too, he was fighting for muh honor and muh fun, it's same shit as with Diarmuid and Kayneth. I'd be buttblasted too if my Servant was more interesting on fucking around than winning the damn war.
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I want more Toole scenes.
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>>160572198
SN Archer just shot SN Caster with a sword.
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>>160572198
Good luck being able to pull your NP without finding a chance to do so.

>Has there even been ONE servant who ever died to a conventional attack?
Diarmuid when he killed himself.
Cu all the times he killed himself.
Medea got GoB spam on Fate route
Lancelot died to a simple stab in Zero.
Kojirou was beaten normally too.
Medusa got SNAKED in UBW

There's probably a few more I'm not remembering.
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>>160572291
For a second there I thought you said Toobie.

... Yghsdfjgfhsdkmillenia should have tried to summon 2B as a replacement Seibah.
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>>160557143
Why do Jeanne and Astolfo have the same hairstyle?
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>>160572390
Diarmuid and Cu died to command seals.
GoB and UBW ARE Noble Phantasms.
Lancelot was bad adaptation. In the LN he died because he ran out of mana. (secondary, etc)
Kojirou... ok him I'll give you but Assassin isn't meant to be a combat-class to start with.
And Medusa had literally no mana because her master was fucking SHINJI.
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>>160572121
This will happen later. Eventually Sieg leads a revolution so that the other ones gain rights as well, and realize that they have a choice.
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>>160572390
>Medusa got SNAKED
What?
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>>160572461
tomboys
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>>160572501
>GoB and UBW ARE Noble Phantasms.
If we are go at that then everyone who has ever died with someone else weapon died to a NP because their weapons are their NP.

I thought you were talking as NP as in the activation ie Excaliblast or Ea gg lol
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>>160572461
Is Astolfo a Saberface?
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>>160572406
Why is 2B so perfect?

How will waifu makers ever recover?
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>>160572554
That's what Kuzuki's fighting style is called secondary-kun
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>>160572461
Poster girls most likely. Make them similar.
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>>160572501
How much did the anime fuck up with Zero?
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>>160572525
That sounds like it would be an excellent side-plot were not for Sieg taking over the rest of the series as well and the War taking a backseat to Sieg's Party. Or if one of the Servants summoned had had particular experiences with Homunculus and that's his plot-line on the war.
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>>160572461
>>160572648
Doesn't Jack also have the same hairstyle?
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>>160572525
A revolution is a bit of an exaggeration. He runs around the battlefield telling the homunculus to retreat instead of getting slaughtered by the Red Servants. Then after everything goes to hell (Greater Grail stolen, Red team retreating, fortress half-blown up from Spartacus), the rest of the Black Masters basically just say fuck it and let the homunculus do whatever they want because there's literally no point in not doing so.
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>>160572741
Doesn't have the braid
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>>160566292
>>160570759
How many Sabers are missing?
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Why do best girls never win?
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>>160573054
Because he was never anything BUT the friend.
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>>160572603
They can't. That's why they all went gay.
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>>160572406
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>>160573046
MHX Alter is not there.

Also, alter at the beach has been recently revelaed.

And there are no jeannes there, but they are probably not there on purpose.
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>>160572817
Where does Sieg take the homunculi?
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>>160572648
Is that Astolfo cosplayer cute?
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>>160572669
A lot of the character interactions got cut down or compressed, but that detail with Lancelot was probably the biggest servant battle slipup.

Also the Kirei-Kerry fight was a LOT more brutal - like with Kirei breaking his own bones to beat down an Avalon-hax Kerry etc.
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>>160571462
Is this all the Seibah clones? Where's that Japanese pink-haired one?
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>>160573275
normal homunculi don't think, so they're practically walking dead meat
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>>160573275
To the Land of Milk and Honey.
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>>160573054
Best girl never wins
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>>160573310
Just the artorias and mordreds.
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>>160560971
>>160561058
>>160566178
Ruler is extremely unlikely to be summoned into the Strange Fake Holy Grail War, because of certain unspecified reasons. Even if a Ruler does manifest, they will be unable to affect anything nor effect any changes onto the system. There are multiple gods and god-level entities involved in the Fake Holy Grail War, and it is strongly implied that any Ruler summoned would not have the Command Seals conventionally available to their class.

Fuck Apocrypha and its nonsense that many of us already know; let's talk about Strange Fake. This had ought to be a Strange Fake thread now.
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>>160573128
bullshit, see
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>>160573384
Flat is best boy. All else can be debated forever.
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>>160571616
the biblical god has this habit of sending the least likely people to do the job for him, and succeeding anyway, just to piss off the people who have high expectations.
they want a deliverer from egypt? he sends an egyptian expatriate with a bad fucking stutter
they want a king? he sends them a manlet shepherd
they want a messiah? he sends them a hippie
they want someone pure of heart to continue on after the hippie? he sends a guy who used to hunt them down for a living (and who is now almost blind)

a poor frogette who never learned to read is him playing pattycake with them compared to the shit he pulled in the book.
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>>160573384
How the fuck do you rape a grail war?
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>>160573046
>>160573256
>>160573256
There's also Ultra Heroine Z, and Gray.
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>>160573128
why do dumb blonde girl always win?

>>160573054
>>160573358
Why does Japan hate Best Girls?
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>>160573507
You summon Ishtar, Gugalanna, the Pale Rider of Revelations, and a Gatekeeper.

>And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
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>>160573611
>the Pale Rider of Revelations
Isn't he just diseases?
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>>160573517
>Ultra Heroine Z,
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam?
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>>160573661
Rider of pestilence i believe he was.
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>>160573611
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>>160573275
The fortress. The homunculus actually get a pretty damn fine result from the war. Gordes heals or fixes any that are suffering from being taken out of the pod, and Fiore pretty much gives them ownership of the castle as long as they maintain it and don't cause any trouble for the Mage's Association. They're free to leave if they ever want to, and she even promises to handle identification if they want to wander.
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>>160573585
Japan doesn't hate best girls, it just hates gay relationships in a context where it's not just for porn or laughs. Astolfo was doomed from the start.
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>>160573661
We've been over this before. "Disease" and "pestilence" are not mentioned in the Bible as aspects of the Horsemen or their horses. It's extremely late mistranslations and/or misinterpretations of the text that ascribed those traits to a horseman - and to the wrong horseman, at that. The "pale" colour of the pale horse is a symbol of sickness. That said, that is never explicitly stated as being the case. So, "pestilence" is not mentioned, but it is strongly implied, and the strong implication is that "disease" is a sign of death.

Going beyond Biblical texts and into the text of Strange Fake itself: Gilgamesh describes Pale Rider as being "a curse of death".
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>>160573384
Who the fuck is this Ayaka? I thought it was interesting at first how she turned out to be "Person A" from the horror story in HA, but then they go and drop the fact that the real Ayaka already exists, and this blonde one is some kind of fake.
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>>160573904
She's someone selected, created or transported by Zelretch. He looks through the world phases to find her in some book of his.
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>>160573782
How did she fuck up that bad? Motherfucker can't be hard to miss.
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Tell me /a/, why does she want the dragon dick?
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>backstory of a hideous monster made from the many flesh and rejected by her master as a failure, and a monster that only wants to find love
>by the way she's really pretty and cute and any normal man would take her

What's even the point of making her Frankenstein?
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>>160557143
Would you feed your heart to Sieg? You technically wouldn't exist, but your body will be tapping dat ass, possibly even alter ass.
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>>160573661
Pale horse is death.
None of the other horsemen are identified by name, but traditionally the white horseman is identified as pestilence. (Other interpretations include 'conquest' and 'strife')

Of course, Japan's understanding of Christianity is spotty at best so it could really be literally anything.
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>>160574196
She didn't want to be loved by a normal man, she wanted another 'monster' same as her.

At least, that's how it went in the original story. I have no idea what kind of spin TYPEMOON put on it.
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>>160572817
This was a awesome secondary headcanon
why are you trying to be a new Fai?
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>>160573275
He shows signs of sentience and will. The other ones hadn't developed such a thing yet. They don't care about homuncules, they care that there's a person here asking for help. Once the homuncules developed enough sentience to have a will to life and seek help, he's basically human.Its like a slave who rose up and developed self-awareness.
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>>160574248
>traditionally the white horseman is identified as pestilence
All of your post but that is correct. That's not the traditional interpretation.

>... Under another interpretation, the first Horseman is called Pestilence, and is associated with infectious disease and plague. It appears at least as early as 1906, when it is mentioned in the Jewish Encyclopedia.[11]
>1906
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>>160573855
Pale Rider being called Pestilence is in SF
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>>160557143
Vive la France!
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>>160574372
Yeah. That's what I said.
White is first.

It goes White-Red-Black-Pale. Fact-check.
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>>160574424
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>>160574396
That's what *people* called him; that doesn't make it his true name. In Zero, Gilles believes that the alias which he should use is "Bluebeard", because that's who/what he had become associated with. Pestilence is associated with death and Death.
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>>160573453
Seriously though, what is Flat's issue? All his backstory made me think is that he sees something that nobody else does, and his viewpoint is distorted because of it. Or was that just a fancy way of saying he's autistic?
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>>160574435
I was challenging your statement that the "pestilence" interpretation was the traditional one, not any other notion at all. I agree with you.
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>>160574539
Flat is cute. Shut your whore mouth.
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>>160574582
You can be autismal and still cute.
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>>160574196
Well, at least the pure white dress does fit Frankenstein's monster in a way. The monster was pure until the professor's constant fear of it and trying to kill it drove it to be murderous. As for being a cute girl, well because Nasu's feminine penis ejaculated onto the script.
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>>160557696
>Mordred even gets so assblasted about being called a girl
Because Mordred is a shit edgelord.
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>>160574082
strong and thick
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>>160574372
Who's doing the thunder?
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>>160574885
Just Gil and Enkidu reuniting for the first time.
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>>160574937
Does he fight them or does it get interrupted?
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how in the fuck does one summon fucking death?
SF seems interesting
are the lineups absurd?
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>>160557696
MORDRED PLEASES YOUNG KINGS FOR NOTHING
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>>160574539
Flat is friendly self-insert shota bishounen beta MC, people just like him because he's handsome and kind, but in reality, he is a terrible and bland character with poor and lazy writing.
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>>160571465
NOBIRO, NOBIRO
FINISHU JA
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>>160574885
Enkidu full power Enuma Elish vs Gil full power Enuma Elish.
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>>160574970
Enkidu ran when he sensed Rider
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>>160573384
>>160574522
Can you post the one explaining how Celenike wants to violate Astolfo to death?
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>>160571762
t-that's a big picture.
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>>160575000
Why did he run? And what did Gil do?
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>>160574990
how the fuck is Flat beta, the dude is fucking insane
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Let's go shopping, then!
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>>160575036
he said that Rider was his natural weakness or something along those lines, which I think ties in to how Enkidu died in his myth
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>>160573384
SF war is so much of a clusterfuck even the Grail has given up on it. Better to let it run it's course at this point.

I, for one, I'm looking forward to Gilgaemsh and Enkidu and Ishtar finally meeeting. That's gonna be a joy to see. Specially when the chances of Alcides going GOD REEEEEE in the middle of the clusterfuck will be very high.
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>>160571762
>x10000
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>>160574539
>what is Flat's issue?
Literal autism. He's balls to the wall crazy.

Even Waver regrets ever picking him up.
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>>160575105
Well Enkidu did die with a disease-curse like.
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>>160575143
Even Jack is startled.
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>>160575143
Yeah he legit disturbed Jack, which is an accomplishment
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>>160565798
What is this Wikipedia bullshit?
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>>160571798
Alexander
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>>160575158
Didn't he die because Ishtar was butthurt about Gil not wanting to fuck her and them killing the Bull and then getting double the butthurt she already was and told all the other Gods to kill Enkidu because he dared to kill the beast of the Gods or something like that?
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>Jack keeps turning into Jack the Stripper
>he likes it
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>>160575224
I believe the myth says he died from a wasting illness, don't remember how he got it though
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>>160574971
>are the lineups absurd?
Yes. To go down the list:

Archer: Gilgamesh
Lancer: Enkidu
Rider: Pale Rider
Caster: Alexander Dumas (his Sublimation is ridiculous)
Assassin: Hassan (a girl rejected from being Hassan who knows all of the Hassan unique abilities down the ages)
Berserker: Jack the Ripper
Saber: Richard the Lionheart (his NP is Excalibur)

Then there's the "True" Servants:

Archer: Hercules (turned into Alcides via Command Seals and given Avenger class hybridisation, which makes him even more OP)
Rider: Hippolyta
Assassin: Hassan (one of the nineteen Hassans)
Caster: Francois Prelati (the guy whose spellbook Gilles uses in F/Z)
Berserker: Unknown, possibly Edison based on a comment about Nikola Tesla being his rival
Gatekeeper: The Gatekeeper.
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>>160575036
>Enkidu instinctively felt a bizarre pressure from the aura.
>“...Something terrible is coming. It’s probably the sort that’s my natural enemy.”
>Gilgamesh raised his eyebrows at that.
>Enkidu had no weaknesses. Gilgamesh knew this fact well.
>If there was one exception, it would be the death that hounded him — Ruin itself, none other than the curse of death that the gods had placed on him.
>“...I see. I lost myself in our celebration. I’d completely forgotten that there are thieves about who intend to lay hands on my Grail, my treasure.”

>... Enkidu focused an intense gaze northward while he kept talking.
>“But, I’m obligated to protect my Master. I can’t disappear because of some interference here. I’m going to run away for now, so let’s continue this another time.”

>... Several minutes later…
>The raging tornadoes had delayed it greatly, but the fragment of the Pale Rider finally arrived in the middle of the desert.
>But, everyone was already gone, and there was no spatial distortion to be found.
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>>160574990
This
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>>160575224
he laid on bed for a while before dying so its pretty much a disease-curse thing. His original 'job' was after all to kill Gil.But they bro it out and because unable to fulfill that the god of creation put some curse-disease
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>>160575239
Flat having to cover up Jack every time he inadvertantly transforms into Jack the Stripper is a great gag
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Spoil me. Are there any moments worth looking forward to? This is too boring to watch without something to look forward to. I don't care what happens to any of these characters, minus Fran-chan, so that's not really turning out to be a good motivation to watch.

And who wins this shit? Does anyone win at all, or do they just cope out like they did with Zero and Stay Night?
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>>160575036
>It was far fainter than the birds and insects that served as familiars. A strangely weak presence.
>Enkidu instinctively felt a bizarre pressure from the aura.
>“...Something terrible is coming. It’s probably the sort that’s my natural enemy.”
>Gilgamesh raised his eyebrows at that.
>Enkidu had no weaknesses. Gilgamesh knew this fact well.
>If there was one exception, it would be the death that hounded him — Ruin itself, none other than the curse of death that the gods had placed on him
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>>160575298
go read the wiki, if you want to know the story
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>>160574971
Fake Servants
>Saber: King Richard, anything he touches turns into Excalibur, and he has a permanent mini-Ionioi Hetairoi constantly hiding in his shadow to help out.
>Archer: Gilgamesh, who goes full power for once because Enkidu is present.
>Lancer: Enkidu, who rivals Gilgamesh in power.
>Rider: Pale Rider. It's Master is a loli who turned comatose because of being implanted with bacterial magic, like Sakura's worms.
>Berserker: Jack the Ripper. Different from Apoc Jack, this one embodies the legend and can turn into any person, object, or even demons because of the mystery behind who he really was.
>Caster: Alexandre Dumas. Can literally create Noble Phantasms with his writing, and arms an entire police force with it.
>Assassin: A zealot that failed to become Hassan. Can use all 18 other Hassan's Zabaniyas. Master is also a Dead Apostle.

True Servants
>Archer: Motherfucking Hercules, except corrupted with Grail mud and turned into an Avenger. Still strong as fuck.
>Rider: Hippolyta, Amazon queen. Shares some NP that Herc uses.
>Berserker: Speculated to be Edison. Gigantic robotic spider/lion that can shift sizes and appearance.
>Caster: Prelati, whose spellbook Giles used in Zero. His Master is literally his own self, who had transferred to new bodies over the years since his original death.
>Assassin: Spookiest Hassan ever. The best summoning scene in all of Fate.
>Watcher: Special class in place of Lancer. He literally sees everything going on in the War and relays it to his Master, though it has no offensive powers otherwise. His Master is also Maiya's (Kiritsugu's assistant) rape child.
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>>160575266
You should have clarified a lot more.
>Hassan (a girl rejected from being Hassan *for being too radical*)
>Richard the Lionheart (ONE of his NPs is the ability to turn anything he touches into Excalibur)
etc, etc.
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>>160575325
Wiki a shit. It can't even spoil properly. Asking for a friend here.
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>>160575266
Didn't Gatekeeper get summoned as Watcher?
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EP6: 04d 09h 56m 41s
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>>160575266
why are there two batches of servants
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>King Richard who's was so chuuni in life he can make everything he picks up into a Excalibur
>A girl who was so good at being Hassan that she learned all the techniques of all Hassans but was not made into an official Hassan because they feared her for being 2cool
>Gilgamesh
>Enkidu
>Jack the Ripper who was so crazy becoming a Berserker made him sane
>Dumas who can basically pull NP out of his ass that are even better than real NP and he shares them with the police squad of his master

>Archer Herakles who's then MUDDED and becomes half Avenger and is now called Alcides and loses Godhand but in exchange is twice as bullshit in everything else AND can steal people NP
>Spooky Hassan who's so spooky and Hassans so hard not even his Master noticed he had summoned him
>Prelati who's a little girl and has lived until modern times who then summoned herself as a shota who is him from the time of his first death
>Hippolyta who's super butthurt at Alcides and is capable of beating his shit
>Berserker who's the spider robot from that Will Smith movie and who can absorb all technology into him and grow bigger and stronger and is probably Edison

>Watcher who's something no one knows what the fuck it is but could be summoned as Watcher

>Ishtar who somehow managed to posses an Homunculus when Berserker was summoned and is now reviving the Bull of Heaven

Nothing will ever top Strange Fake in terms of how crazy it is as a HGW.
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>>160575450
Yes. We have no idea what the fuck that means since we have no idea what either of them are, so it's fair game to refer to that Servant either way. Watcher is Gatekeeper with his classification fucked up; it's not much different from Alcides being an Archer with his classification being fucked up into 'part-Avenger'.
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>>160575239
>>160575294
Jack and Flat are the best.
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>>160575036
Not the guy you were responding to, and I've only read the novels, Gil pulled out Ea and attacked Enkidu as a greeting and they weren't being serious about fighting. Enkidu ran because he sensed Rider whom he called his natural enemy (my guess is cause enkidu is like Nature and shit and Pestilence just kinda kills everything)
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>>160575369
>>Caster: Alexandre Dumas. Can literally create Noble Phantasms with his writing, and arms an entire police force with it.
what the fuck
>Assassin: Spookiest Hassan ever. The best summoning scene in all of Fate.
does he have name yet?
>Watcher: Special class in place of Lancer. He literally sees everything going on in the War and relays it to his Master, though it has no offensive powers otherwise. His Master is also Maiya's (Kiritsugu's assistant) rape child.
what
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So who can oppose Karna in this round? Seems like he will win it
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>>160575467
remove fake
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If liking Astolfo makes me gay, then Im a flaming homosexual.
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>>160575538
Hassan is just Hassan. There is no further name needed for that.
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>>160575552
Dumas a best, he really grew on me, especially in the latest volume, he seems like a chill dude
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>>160575547
It's Vlad
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>>160575467
The masterminds were only partially able to steal the formula of the Fuyuki Grail War. So, with what they have, they create a "Fake" War which they intend to use as a sacrifice to fuel a "True" War.
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>>160575568
Liking Astolfo cannot be gay. You are attracted to him because he looks like a cute girl. That's the opposite of gay. But if you fap to him, knowing that he's a guy, then that would be a gay act.
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>>160575552
is that a fujoshit series?
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>>160575552
I want to fuck Tine.
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>>160575467
the grail war in america wasn't perfect. So they used the energy in the imperfect/fake grail war to create a real one. So we have one batch of servants from the fake grail war and one batch of servants from the true grail war.
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>>160575641
she gets along surprisingly decently with Gil
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>>160571598
>>160571462
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>>160575538
>does he have name yet?
Spooky Hassan. That's all we call him. He is ordered to kill a single mafia boss outside of the city. Half a day later, his Master gets reports that like 50 major politicians (including the forerunner for President) and business figures across the entire United States were killed all within the same relative timespan. Nobody knows what the fuck he's doing.

>what
Watcher is the greatest
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>>160575658
I thought that was because she look like the one that serve him?
you know that chick who follows him when his caster gil
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Don't forget that Sigma's bullshitting everyone by pretending he summoned Charlie Chaplin as Lancer

>>160575658
That Gil is chill because Endiku is there helps a lot too.
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>>160575586
Agreed. I'm looking forward to what "Musketeers' whatever" does; it sounds amazing.
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>>160575746
Sigma is a surprisingly funny dude in general, the part where the knight shadow is butthurt because he only knew of the grail quest from Monty Python was hilarious
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>>160575688
>Shirou is pure alpha harem master except for one incarnation
What went wrong with Enjou Tomoe?
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>>160575688
>Comic Shirou
Jesus Christ
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>>160573611
Strange fake really is retarded af.
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>master gets scared of thunder
>Proceeds to fuck it over
Is Pale Death the best rider so far?
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>>160575369
you forgot Chaplin dude
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>>160575776
>Origin: Worthlessness
JUST


>>160575791
That's why it's great. Because it's embraces it's stupidity and plays around with it instead of pretending to be 2deep4u muh serious holy grail war for mature masters such as myself
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>>160575813
Its only major flaw so far is that it only acts according to what Tsubaki thinks is best, hence why it couldn't detect shota!Jester
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>>160575706
>Try and summon a Servant.
>Nothing happens.
>Go back to your surveillance room, look at some monitors.

>Then, when he was in the middle of a monitor check... he noticed that he was scribbling on the notepad by his hand.
>Whoops. It’s not like me to do something like that... Maybe failing to summon a Heroic Spirit did give me a bit of a shock.
>Having finished puzzling over his own actions, Faldeus was about to tear out the sheet when, suddenly, his hand stopped. Amid his scribbles, clearly meaningful words were written in a hand entirely unlike his own.

>“I ask thee: art thou my Master?”
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>>160575266
Jesus, that's fucking stupid.
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>>160575835
this.
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Faldeus is a true Patriot and should be the one to win the war

Faldeus considered a moment, then steadied his breathing and answered.
“I would give all magecraft for our United States. That is my faith.”
“...Have you the resolve to see that faith through, even if it means ending another’s life?”
“Am I willing to kill for it, you mean?”
“...That is what it would mean to contract with me.”
Most mages were prepared to take lives in the Holy Grail War. Even so, how many would be
able to give an immediate answer while they could clearly sense their own death approaching?
After a brief silence, the young mage opened his mouth to speak with a surprisingly calm mind.
“Of course I am. If it was for the United States, I would not even hesitate to kill a fellow
citizen.”
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So, I get that Strange Fake is, well, strange. But is it good? Or did Narita just fuck up?
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>>160575746
Sigma is top tier since even though hes fairly fucking useless despite the fact hes maya's rapebabby, i just hope he just keeps this entire war with him bullshitting everyone it would be amazing.
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>>160575906
It's fanservice galore. Enjoy references by the boatload.

It's great.
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>>160575906
Narita is going apeshit again
so far the pace has been so fucking slow because he is putting backstory on everyone so there are connections
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>>160575923
He's not totally useless, he was able to dodge Fake Assassin for a few seconds with Watcher's help, though he still would have been killed pretty easily
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>tfw you are so much of an Arthurfag that you can pick up a tree branch and EXCALIBUR with it
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>>160557242
>Apocrypha goes to shit immediately after Siegfried gives his heart to Sieg
Are you saying it wasn't already shit to begin with?
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>>160575906
It's good. We're not being sarcastic or dismissive. Read it.
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>>160575906
It's really really good.

It's only weakness is that it is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

This happens because, firstly, Narita's autism makes him want to set-up everything, give everything and everyone scenes and connect every little single thing and secondly because Nasu keeps trolling him by letting him add new things and then right after contradicting what Narita just added in something he writes afterwards which has made Narita super duper careful regarding what shit to use or add next.
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>>160575954
what i ment was he would get utterly rekt in pretty much any battle, except probably prelati oddly enough.
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>>160575966
Richard is best Saber, that punk rock band shit was great
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>>160575835
>Because it's embraces it's stupidity and plays around with it instead of pretending to be 2deep4u muh serious holy grail war for mature masters such as myself
This.
Anime and LN get obnoxious half of the time they try to get "deep" because Japanese people either just aren't good at doing that ,suck at philosophy, or probably both of those things.
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>>160575906
It's still in early stages. Not much has happened yet. Just establishing things. But even then, Narita is doing Narita things. As far as beginnings go, which are always fucking boring in Fate, this is definitely one of, if not the best.
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>>160576001
Well Prelati's magic ranking is insane, especially since one of his skills passively boosts it by a ton, he even got Alceides and Gil in his Grand Illusion, and Alciedes has A rank Magic Resistance
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>>160575923
I hope he survives until the end and finds Maiya somehow. I've always been since that Maiya died in FZ without ever finding her child. I want it to happen here even if its a parallel world.
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>>160575983
why is Jack the Ripper so malicious on SF but a cute loli butt in APO?
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>>160576058
they mentioned that Maiya died in the 4th HGW in this world too
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>>160576058
Maiya's dead in SFverse too.
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>>160576069
Because no one knows what or who Jack the Ripper was so he can be summoned as pretty much anything and have any backstory.
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>>160576001
Of course he'd be bested in any battle thus far. He has yet to become True Lancer.
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>>160576056
Prelati's illusions are too OP. Aren't they described as not only fooling the people caught in it, but also fooling the World itself?
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>>160575923
Maya's rapebaby?
explain I don't understand
who does she rape?
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>>160576069
This Jack the Ripper isn't a person, but the idea of Jack the Ripper, all of his NP are based on various theories that people have had on what Jack the Ripper's identity was, and he's not always so malicious, he's usually a pretty chill guy
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>>160576083
>>160576092
Goddammit
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>>160575906
It's good and it's fun. Like that one anon said, it's absurd and it knows it's absurd.

It also features the only cast in the entire Fate franchise in which I'm genuinely curious about everyone and everything. Even the characters I know nothing about, I at least want to get to know sooner or later.

Also Sigma is the blank slate of a human being type character Sieg WISHES he could be.
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>>160576083
>>160576092
So did the 4th and 5th happens normally in SF?
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>>160576106
yeah he said he could fool the world for like 4 days after casting Grand Illusion just once during the battle at the start of Volume 4
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how THE FUCK does being so insane that being summoned with a mad enchantment makes you fucking sane?
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>>160576114
Are you retarded? Even a Zero secondary who only watched the anime knows what this means.
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>>160576136
Yes. Right down to HA, oddly enough. Gil retains memories of fishing there.
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>>160576116
That is so goddamn stupid.
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>>160576136
as far as we know yeah both happened, though we don't know if there were any differences or not
>>160576120
yeah Sigma is fairly cool, not a complete blank slate, since he has some personality, just kinda emotionally dead, he had a pretty good moment with Zealot in Volume 4 too
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>>160576165
This is like the 5th time you've posted this in this very same thread. Why are you in this thread at this point if you find Fate to be so stupid? Why not go watch something more mature and deep fitting for you like Ergo Proxy or Death Note?
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>>160576165
You don't *have* to like it.
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>>160576136
Strange Fake had a Fuyuki grail war, and it was corrupted with the mud. They actually smuggled a chunk of mud to turn True Archer into Avenger.

It's not quite clear what route it's in, I'm not sure if the fifth war even took place, but Zero's fourth war definitely did.
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>>160576147
shitty writing
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>>160576147
Negative plus a negative equals a positive.
Don't think too hard about it.
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Tell me about Fate/Apocrypha. Why is it so apocryphal?
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>>160576147
Like how when a show is so bad it becomes fun and entertaining somehow.
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>>160575369
Germslut.
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>>160576193
it has saints and is a spin-off and shit
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Are the Masters are crazy as the Servants?
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>>160576191
>Negative plus a negative equals a positive.
>plus
V. poor. See me after class.
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>>160574999
>>160575270
>>160575537
Enkidu and Gil running scared af
Pale Rider > 2x Full Power Enuma Elishes confirmed
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>>160576147
>>160576185
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>>160573501
>they want someone pure of heart to continue on after the hippie? he sends a guy who used to hunt them down for a living (and who is now almost blind)
Wait who is this supposed to be?
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>>160576136
>>160576183
Narita does specify in an afterword that it does take place after the original Fate, but not in any of the routes from the game. And the writing itself is intentionally ambiguous about what happened during the war, only that it did end.

Rin is/was studying at the Clock Tower though. Waver asks Flat whether or not Rin taught him the summoning ritual, and Flat realizes he could've just asked her about it.
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>>160576252
Yes.
One of the masters is even a dead apostle.
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>>160576180
Fate spin-offs are stupid and I came here to see what everyone thought about Apo but the thread evolved into Strange Fake posting which I haven't gotten the chance to read.
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>>160576265
Aw man. I hate math.
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>>160576252
Some, yes, some, no.
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>>160574539
Think FSN-Ilya without the 'murder' thing. He's just naturally like that.
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>>160576294
Paul the apostle.

Also worst boy imo. John and Peter were bests.
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>>160576325
Apocrypha is considered far and wide the worst Fate spin-off. Don't expect anything out of it.

>but the thread evolved into Strange Fake posting which I haven't gotten the chance to read.
What are you waiting for then?
Here, I'll even spoonfed you:

humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/150696689780/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel-read
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>>160576325
Then shut the fuck up and read it. If you can't read four volumes of a light novel in a day, you shouldn't be reading or writing here at all.
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>>160576252
Richard's master is Ayaka, who is actually a fake Ayaka brought into the war by Zelretch.
Enkidu's master is a Chimera/Wolf that was going to be used as a sacrifice for the summoning
Gil's master is a Native American clan leader that wants to clear people of their land
Pale Rider's master is a little girl that got fucked up by her parents in the process of making her stronger, and she summoned him in a coma and used him to mindwipe her parents
Dumas' master is the chief of police who wants to kill servants with the power of Human's equiped with NP
Jack's master is Flat, who is fucking insane
Zealot's master is a Dead Apostle who has 6 hearts that he can swap out as identities
and thats just the fake masters
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>>160576364
I'm reading and writing here anyway. Does that piss you off? Good.
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>>160576147
What happens when you negate a negative number?

There's your answer
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>>160575113
>>160575224
>anti-Ishtar capturing net
damegami
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Why can't good writers like Narita write all Fate spin-offs? Why hacks like Sakurai and Higashide still allowed near it? I'm still mad about Extella, fucking hell, what a total downgrade in every single aspect after CCC. It's disgusting to see how they ruined Extra's universe in one single stroke, and worst of all, the damn thing is getting a sequel. Fuck you Nasu you lazy cunt, go back to writing your shit again.
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>>160576465
>>>anti-Ishtar capturing net
Really?
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>>160576470
Shut the fuck up and post more Gudako.
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>>160576486
>"Even though the anti-foolish goddess (Ishtar) trapping net could've been deployed in just a few more moments... Damn."
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>>160576386
We have less info on some True masters

Watcher's master is Maiya's rapechild and a mercenary, pretty emotionless with a soft spot for Classic comedy
Alciedes' master is a member of the magic mafia who killed a ton of people to use as a mana source for him, since he requires a ton of it
We know nothing about Hippolyta's master yet
Prelati is its own master, since Prelati lived until the modern age and summoned its first incarnation as a Caster
True Assassin's Master is one of the masterminds of the war and a true American patriot
True Berserker's master hates mages and wants to destroy the Assosciation, and was palling around with Ishtar for a while
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>>160576501
No. Have the superior SI character instead. Hakunon da bes.
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>>160576252
>Saber
Ayaka, the Prototype heroine. Or a blonde version of her who is clearly a fake because the real Ayaka exists in this world.
>Fake Archer
Cute brown loli. Raised solely to take back their land from mages, but Gil slowly teaches her to enjoy life like a child should.
>Fake Lancer
A fucking wolf.
>Fake Rider
Comatose loli. Lives in a dream world that becomes more populated as Pale Rider infects more living beings.
>Fake Caster
Police chief. Pretty much arms most of his force with Noble Phantasms from his Servant, and has a strict watch over the entire city through surveillance and magic.
>Fake Berserker
Flat, the most gifted and autistic mage in existence.
>Fake Assassin
Dead Apostle. Assassin killed him immediately when she was summoned, but he came back to life and follows her just because he wants to see her fall into despair.

>True Archer
Top dog in the mafia. Corrupted by Grail mud, but retains partial sanity due to domination magic he cast on himself. Used all three command spells to turn Hercules into an Avenger.
>True Berserker
Hates mages so much she joined only to cause so much destruction that magic will be uncovered to the real world.
>True Assassin
One of the masterminds of the War. Loves the USA so fucking much.
>True Caster
Prelati, who has swapped bodies for many years (now in a goth loli body), summons himself as his Servant.
>Watcher
Fucking Maiya's rapebaby who is emotionally empty by wants to live. Magical mercenary like Kiritsugu.
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>>160576501
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>>160574990
>Flat
>beta
Did we we the same series? Or do you not know what words mean?
NOTHING about the guy is 'beta'. He says what he wants, does what he wants, and has crazy-Ciel-levels of natural magical talent.

He's just not all dark/edgelordy and tries to be polite. That ain't beta.
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>>160576532
>A fucking wolf.
THE fucking wolf.
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>>160575531
>>160575706
>>160576292

>>160575008
Please? I remember it, but couldn't find it again.
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>>160576540
Now we're talking.
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This sounds like a wild ride anons.
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>>160576585
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. This is a Strange Fake thread; we're not talking about Apocrypha.
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>>160576360
>Reading light novels

IN OTHER WORDS
THAT IS TO SAY
IT SEEMED THAT
EVEN SO
THUS
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>>160576470
Sanda seems like a chill dude. Him and Narita seem like bros who, along with Mashin, try and get all their works nice and consistent.

Then Nasu drops in and starts laughing.
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>>160576532
Is Francesca like Roa?
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>>160576602
David Foster Wallace?
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>>160576470
>I'm still mad about Extella, fucking hell, what a total downgrade in every single aspect after CCC. It's disgusting to see how they ruined Extra's universe in one single stroke, and worst of all, the damn thing is getting a sequel.
Extella is a mess, time locks are a mess, Velber is a total ripoff of a Reaper and it's so coincidental I wonder if Nasu ran into Mass Effect at some point, Atilla the hun being an alien is legitimately a stupid idea and not in a way that's "dumb" fun, just add an actual alien character? Why did it have to be Atilla?
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>>160576591
Gudako is for Gudao.
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>>160576599
>>160576624
Oh come on, I said please.
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>>160576624
That poor genius having to work with Nasu's shitty "lol I make rules so i can break them" setting
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>>160576703
I haven't read Apocrypha, and whatever it is you're talking about is not in Strange Fake.
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>>160576341
>Ilya
>murder
Killya the Illya!
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>>160576624
>Then Nasu drops in and starts laughing.

>Narita: Haha I'll add this new thing! I'm sure it'll be interesting and cool and fun!
>Nasu: That's a cool idea you've got there, it would be a shame if someone contradicted it at their next work :^)

Nasu must be enjoying trolling him so much.

>>160576713
Honestly, that's been part of Fate's core since day 1, even Tsukihime had that. If Narita cannot adapt to that on his writing of SF then he's the bad writer there.
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>>160574539
He wants to trwhat?
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>>160576470
Sakurai just doesn't work with TM's restrictions at all and can't even write like he wants so you get mess after mess.
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>>160576761
isn't that the reason volume 4 took so long to come out? He was waiting for Nasu to finish Babyonia right?
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>>160576532
>Gil slowly teaches her to enjoy life like a child should.
Y-yuetsu?
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>>160576761
It's a shitty method of writing that no one should use.
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>>160576822
Yes.

From volume 4's afterword:
>Now, to the people who have read to the end: I hope you now understand why I waited until after clearing FGO chapter 7 to write. Yes… it's about "her." "She's" been there since the plotting stage. Some time has passed since, one day, Nasu-san told me, "Oh yes, she's going to appear in FGO fused with ___, so take care," but I wanted to actually see "her" in action.

Ishtar, of course.
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>>160576713
Araki did the same thing in JJBA. Set some general rules for Stands, but like half the stands are able to break them in some way.
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>>160576759
I'm just asking for one pic that's hard to find, not even any discussion about it.
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>>160576892
Hence why the Jojo setting is meh all things considered.
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>>160576641
similar but i'm not sure shes actually a straight up Vamp yet though, Jester is however.
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>>160576761
Tsukihime had what?
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>>160576913
>deleted
Fine, meant for >>160576744
I know you're the same guy since all the pics have the same font and cropping style.
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>>160576761
>>160576786
Multiverse.
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>>160576887
How is Ishtar's personality going to be different from Rinshtar?
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>>160576976
Hate this excuse so goddamn much. It makes sense when it comes to KnK and Prototype but Jesus is it cheap.
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>>160577018
Isn't Zero also considered a different timeline from SN due to writing fuckups?
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>>160577052
Yeah, Nasu really should've put a leash around Gen's neck when he was writing that.
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>>160576624
Who's _____-san?
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>>160576955
"Cropping style"? "Font"? It's fucking Adobe Acrobat Reader.
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>>160577052
what were the main inconsistencies between Zero and SN?
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>>160576761
I'm seeing a lot of this about contradiction, but what exactly did Nasu do?
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>>160577104
So any chance there's gonna be a remake or alternate ending for SN's Zero?
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>>160577111
Whoever wrote whatever they were looking at at the time. There's more than one writer for Fate, you know; it's not hiding a name or something.
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>>160577139
I'm sure Nasu will get on that after he finished the Tsuki remake, oh wait, that's never going to happen.
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>>160577111
Presumably since they went on to discuss Atrum's appearance, I'd guess Miura in relation to the UBW anime.
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>>160570414
Closets we've gotten is Anne Bonney and Mary Read. They are bi.
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Jeanne is so fucking cute. Her design is so nice but why does she have to be stuck in such a shitty spin off.
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>>160577052
>>160577124
Why make an entirely separate universe over insignificant inconsistencies? It's always bound to happen with long running series and multiple writers, that's part of why comic books always have minor fuck ups here and there in single runs.
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>>160577161
RIP Hair Intakes
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>>160577182
She's in FGO.
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>>160570414
Carmilla.
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>>160577052
Writing fuckups? Explain. I don't remember much fuck ups, except Gil's power level.
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>>160577124
something something SEA OF FIRE something something SPLIT THE RIVER something something.

Seriously, that's it. There are no real inconsistencies; it's just petty, autistic technical details which made them say that they're different worlds. Sometimes people bring out things that Saber said in specific routes of FSN, like "I defeated Gilgamesh" or some shit; but, in later routes, she retracts certain lies and tells you more of the truth because she trusts you in a different way or whatever. Also, the "spoke to me 3 times" thing is an extremely technical truth and does not 'violate canon' or whatever.
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Does Prelati mana transfer?
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>>160577187
God the sameface seems to have gotten worse
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>mordred is actually a transgender
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>>160577128
People from the modern age cannot become heroic spirits, a copy cannot defeat the original, humans are incapable of fighting directly with servants because they'd get crushed like a grape, and herc somehow remaining around long enough after his death to talk to Seiba + Shirou and to take one last swing at Gil
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>>160577262
>selfcest between Francesca and Francois
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>>160577266
How much worse?
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>>160570414
Why would there be? Almost all of these heroic spirits are from the PAST, when degeneracy pretty much didn't exist.
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>>160577250
Seiba's past was a pretty big one. She was pragmatic af in life and in Stay night but was a baby bitch in Zero's grail war for some reason.
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>>160577186
>>160577250
F/SN isn't a franchise like DC or Marvel. It was basically a self-published book that turned into a cow by chance. There were only two artists involved in its creation, which was done only of their own accord after 10 years of patience.

Plus the alternate dimensions and time travel already exist in the setting, so you might as well take advantage of it to keep people from getting into retarded canon wars. Especially when you've got stuff like giant Lovecraftian kaiju showing up halfway through the war, but no one cares about what the fuck that was, they just care about this big fire that happened. Because that's never happened before.
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>>160577305
A lot like a fuckton worse
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>>160577330
>book
*porn game
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>>160570414
Nero is bi
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>>160577262
She's literally Medb 2.0.

Or more like the original since she was the first one to be published in some work.
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>>160577322
Yeah, it's called development. She changed when she died in her life, and then changed again when she realized how badly she fucked up as a King. Same thing happens with Shirou/Archer. Change after death.
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>>160577377
Nah, it's called bullshit hack writing to try and fit in Gen's suffering fetish.
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I like Grand Order Jeanne better.
>>
I also now understand why we were barely shown any of Red team's masters aside from Kotomine Shirou and Shishigou Kairi. It's because Shirou is apparently a backstabbing jerk who lied to everyone so he can steal their command seals and servants and he's probably the antagonist. Probably gonna end up hating him anyway, he looks stupid.
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>>160577421
I like Antoinette fugging Jeanne.
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>>160577369
She's nowhere nearly as cheesy.
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>>160577352
Game with erotic elements*.

>Nasu: I didn't even feel the need to put erotic parts in my own stories, so I never even thought about them. When I realized that the game's genre would be in that area, though, I realized it needed sex-related scenes. ... "writing" is actually a very weak force in the doujin world. If you really want people to read your writing, then you need to come up with a few tricks to pull them in. So the way I looked at it was if I added visuals, made it a game, and then on top of that, added erotic elements, then I'd maybe get 1 out of 10 people to look at it.
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>>160577421
How does the lack of Leticia affect her? Personality-wise.
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>>160577403
>I don't like thing therefore it's bad
ok
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>>160577352
Funnily enough most American publishers requires writers to put a sex scene in their books for it to be considered a part of the Romance genre.
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>>160577493
Is F/SN a romance genre?
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>>160577421
>>160577446
>>160577207
>F/GO
Muh generic harem
Muh cance mobage
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>>160577437
He isn't the antagonist. He's the protagonist. He wins the war. I think.
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I swear to fuck there are literal bots posting in these threads.
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>>160577517
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>>160577501
According to Nasu, yes.

From the earliest known talks with Nasu until today, he has been absolutely obsessed with the word "romantic". He admits it himself; he is 'hung up' on the word. Solomon's fucking nickname is "Dr Romantic". F/SN is a romance.
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>>160577557
Which of the other Fate/s are also Romances?
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>>160577250
>"I defeated Gilgamesh
If that's the only inconsistency, can't that be justified as Saber's misunderstanding? She was the one who poured all that hot liquid all over Gil, so it makes sense why she would think he died and lost.
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>>160577517
To which posts are you making reference? Quote them, so that I can know that you're not talking about me.
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>>160577513
Half the people that play it are Storyfags.
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>>160575688
Are Mumei and SN Archer from different futures?
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>>160577577
>>160577577
>>160577577
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>>160577487
Personalities don't fundamentally change from experience alone unless one is still a child. Saber wouldn't have been anywhere near as vulnerable as she was in Fate/Zero, and her mindbreak at the end is totally incongruous with how she immediately acts when returning in F/SN. The bizarre emphasis placed on her gender identity doesn't make any sense at all either, for a variety of reasons.

If you look at Shirou and Archer for comparison, their personalities are almost identical. Archer has a self-destructive approach to the same thing much like post-revival Saber did, but he always acted like the same person.
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>>160577632
astolfo is a dude you gay faggots
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>>160577649
How else can they be gay faggots if he isn't a dude? Are they lesbians or something?
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>>160577513
Say what you will about it, but you can't deny the Jeanne arc was legitimately engaging.
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>>160577632
Fuck off general fag
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>>160577515
He's the main antagonist and villain. Sieg kills him
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>>160577639
Saber grew a dick.
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>>160577697
Jeanne's boobies was legitimately engaging.
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>>160577574
As I recall, that specific one was one of the few that she takes back later. I was serious about the "sea of fire" and "splitting the river" things being the only inconsistencies.

At some point - God knows when - in the VN, Artoria states that she fought Gilgamesh in a "sea of fire" during the 4th HGW. Doesn't happen in Zero. This, too, could be a lie, but it's never explicitly made out to be a lie, so we get "lol alternate universe" as the answer.

At another point in the VN, Artoria says something about how she split the Mion river with Excalibur, and something about damaging the bridge. This is the *only* one which can be pragmatically argued to have the potential to make a case for an alternate universe, because Excalibur does not damage the bridge in Zero. 'Splitting the river' can easily be given as simple prosaic speech, but her comment about the bridge can't. So, because a novel with 820,595 words has one single [throwaway] sentence which is marginally inconsistent with a later prequel, the prequel cannot take place in the same universe.
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>>160575716
Siduri.
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>>160577639
>Personalities don't fundamentally change from experience alone unless one is still a child
Speak for yourself, cocksucker.
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>>160576296
So Illya route?
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>>160577839
Saber has no ass
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>>160577839
It sucks that im not an ass man. Good thing Fate has plenty of titty monsters.
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>>160575369
Richard is a True servant since there was no Saber in the Fake war.
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>>160577809
Personality is a lot more complex than cognition.
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>>160573507
Summon the GEOM
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>>160576386
is this all SF/later apo/HA shit cuz i recognize none of this
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>>160571762
That was surprisingly fun.
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>>160578028
"Greatest Enemy of Mankind"?
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>>160578086
Is this angry manjew ?
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>>160578028
Fuck you Erebus
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>>160575706
Dumb spook.
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>>160578159
Yes.
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>>160578086
God Emperor of Mankind not angry manjew
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>>160578221
What'd you call me, boy?
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>>160578241
Yes, I know. I was simply having some fun with you.
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>>160577639
>Personalities don't fundamentally change from experience alone unless one is still a child
From a normal experience, yeah. People don't change easily. But have you tried DYING? A lot of people change after experiencing just a war, seeing someone die, what do you think happens when you are the one dying? All happy and the same as usual? Now try being killed by your own son, having most of your friends slaughtered with you and having everything you worked for in life collapse with your death. Do you think everything would be fine and the same as usual after that? If so, you're the problem, not the writing.
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>>160560412
>Romanian love-comedy
Is that a thing in Romania?
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>>160578311
It's a gipsy thing.
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>>160570798
A random Knight of the Round Table.
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>>160578290
Aside from the obvious problems like Mordred being a disowned clone, happiness being an emotion or temperament, and Saber still being a cold, regretful person either way, those things would not lead to Saber being insecure about her gender identity or rulership when she already decided she did an awful job or suddenly having a knightly code consume literally all of her relationships. In reality, she would mostly just hate herself, which is kinda what already happened.
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>>160566232
Was that an anime-only thing?
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Where can you find an english translation of Fake Strange?
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>>160579483
>>160576360
Read thread.
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