Dragon Ball Super

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Best girls.

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Kale is a goddess.

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>>160519541
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

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Best and cutest GoD

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Reminder that Cauli already has SSJ3.

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Post your favorite manga moments/panels.
it doesnt even have to be from Super.

>>160519579
>One best girl and one possessive bull-dyke

FTFY

>>160519541
It doesn't.

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Reminder that Son Goku is a soulless monster and you should be ashamed for like him

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>>160519680

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>only the strongest warriors left
what did they mean by this?

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>>160519680

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Grand Priest is smug not evil!

>>160519698
Cauli is great, too.

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>>160519698
>best girl and best girl
ftfy

Manga Goku vs Anime Goku, who wins?

I can't wait for them to be wiped from existence.

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>>160519712

>>160519712
>>160519721
>>160519706
Hakai mind

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>>160519776
I like both Goku's but Toyo!Goku takes my vote.

>>160519776
obviously manga goku hes already consistently stronger, doesnt job, and could hakai him

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>>160519805

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>>160519776
SSB is a jobber form in the anime, also Goku can't stop holding back.
Manga-Goku is strong, copied Beerus' Hakai and it's smart enough to combine it with Shunkan Ido.

Jiren and Toppo will eliminate most of U7.

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>>160519854

>>160519541
Her middle finger is broken. Such an eyesore

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>>160519680

>yfw all this "holding back" shit actually has a story purpose at the end
My guess is that Goku is actually gathering or well...stealing the biggest multiversum spirit bomb he is handling low key somewhere and calls it in on the last fight.

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>>160519915

>>160519940
Do you have autism?

>>160519776
Anime Goku just has to use SSBKKx10 and give Manga Goku emotional Damage

>>160519776
Depends. If Goku can't handle x10 Kaioken, then Manga Goku. If he can, than anime Goku

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What's up with this shitty writing?
Let's do some fact check:

U7 has beaten U6! and that's a fact.
Beerus is stronger than Champa, and that's a fact
Zeno observed the whole Tournament between U6 and U7 and he saw how it ended, and that's a fact.

Now how is U6 is ranked higher than U7?
>Toei shills are gonna defends this

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>>160519983

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>>160520029

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>>160519658
Huh

>>160519665
She didn't hear her

Why are 90% of the people in this tournament weaker than a Super Saiyan?

>>160519970
The purpose of "holding back" shit is to save Goku for the last. Him fighting Jiren or whoever wouldn't have the same effect if he wasted his techniques on jobbers and tossed SSBKK Super God Kamehamehas left and right.

It could've been handled differently though, like Goku mostly fighting off-screen instead of repeated "oh no I've been grabbed by a jobber! time to hold back for an episode while my team sorts everything out. 18 pls help" which is bordering on self-parody at this point.

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>>160520091

>>160520101
Yes

>>160520021
I thought you had moved on to criticizing 18 for badmouthing Krillin, I guess I was wrong. It's cool that you always post a different 18 lewd.

>>160520101
SS is Kaioshin tier, anon, it's actually a strong thing compared to regular people

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>the year is 2030
>Dragon Ball Omega has just started
>24/7 threads on /a/
>the threads will consist of kids who grew up with Super calling Omega trash and Super a masterpiece
>mfw it's just a endless cycle

>>160520101
You want more character? Hahaha of course have more character but they all useless compare to my Saiyajin. Here have moar saiyajin!!! (raffs)

>>160520101
stop trying to maintain powerlevel consistency autism, the writers do not care

>>160520101
Beerus was surprised one who could defeat freeza existed. So likely an extreme minority of people are strong like even the 5 troopers who were thrown out in the "omniverse"

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>>160520135

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Did the "h-h-holding back" meme ruin Super?

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>>160519680

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>>160520149
no, I was just banned

>>160520132
>time to hold back for an episode while my team sorts everything out.
Jiren fucked up.

>>160520203
Not having a single talented person involved with the production did.

>>160520021
>U7 has beaten U6! and that's a fact.
Because Hit threw the last fight

>Beerus is stronger than Champa, and that's a fact
By literally the tiniest margin

>Now how is U6 is ranked higher than U7?
Because the mortal ranking has nothing to do with the strength of a universe's top fighters. And you're a retard.

>>160520161
>Dragon Ball manga
>Next manga: Add Super to the name
The next step is Dragon Ball 64, anon.

will anyone but U6 or U7 ever get a KO?

>>160520295
they call it 64 because thays how many episodes it gets before being canceled.

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LET ME SEE YOUR REAL DEAL FACE!

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There's a universe where DB was animated by Madhouse. But then, there would probably be different voice actors and the films wouldn't exist, as well as Super itself probably.

>>160520308
U11

you knew with this many new characters that it would mostly be jobber filler

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>>160520336
>next manga
>64 episodes

>>160520336
actually it's 64 volumes long

>>160520367
I imagine that we are in the worst reality in regards to the RoF arc.

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>>160520308
Yes

>>160519541
Because most Broly fans are dumb niggers who think the movies are canon.

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>>160520308
Basil did.

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DBZ
>Goku constantly getting put on the bus
>shows up at the end to face the main villain
>fights are less personal than the fights with the lower tier fighters since he doesn't deal with all the struggle and loss they did in the 20+ episodes before

DBS
>Goku constantly on the screen
>holds back until the end where he faces the main villain
>story makes less and less sense as the writers bullshit reasons to extend the fights/story

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>>160520367
>There's a universe where DB was animated by Madhouse.
I wish I was there.

What are your thoughts on katsuyoshi nakatseru?

>GT Goku never used SS3 until Baby Vegeta
How many episodes was Goku holding back?

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As someone who defended Super during the whole Black arc, holy fuck has this show gone to shit.

>>160520367
There is also a universe where Dragonball arcs are only animated in Short OVAS with TONS of cut content and changed scripts.
Imagine: Goku goes to Namek BY HIMSELF, Vegeta gets their first and wipes the Ginyu force, Frieza Killing Vegeta forces Super Saiyain.

>>160519658
>>160519960
Did anyone else see Caulifla do the Teen Gohan One-Handed Ki blast for this?

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>>160520356

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>>160520501
I appreciated the concept of his SS4 design.

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>mfw Toei Goku will berate 17 for trying to stop his opponent's transformations when the universe is on the line

>>160520485
>yoshimichi kameda will never do a cut for super
:(
naotoshi shida's cut in 66 had bad choreography and there was not weight to the kicks vegetto did.

>>160520519
The Black arc wasn't even very good and had huge flaws but at least there was some way to defend this shit show of a series.

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>Vegeta can't even achieve Lava form
Why is he popular again?

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>>160520544

>>160520593
two words
Glacier Vegeta

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>>160519680
Those middle two panels in particular are excellent

>>160520519
Same here anon.

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>>160520519
miss us?

>>160520611
I like how it shows a difference between Goku's expression in the manga and in the anime after he defeated Freeza. In the manga, he seems like he didn't want to resort to killing Freeza as he could have been redeemed and made a decent rival even though he murdered thousands including Kuririn. But in the anime, he looks like he's certain that death is what Freeza deserved.

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>>160520593
But that's wrong, Lava Vegeta is a thing

>>160520021
>U7 has beaten U6! and that's a fact.

only because of monaka, who didn't enter the tournament

anyway the rankings aren't even based on strength but how moralfag your universe is on average. Zen-oh wants to get rid of universes full of shitty people and I don't really blame him

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>>160519658
Surely I wasn't the only person who thought this when it happened?

>>160520558
Great AGL support

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>>160519598
Fuck off Gokuck bot
Reminder that Tao Pai Pai is perfect

>>160520700
Goku felt bad for Frieza, it was an ugly conclusion to a what was formidable battle

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>>160520584

>>160520607
Glacier Vegeta is a dumb jobber, can't even hold a candle to Thunder Gohan.

>>160520689
I miss Black. Zamasu served no purpose in the battle.

I miss Gowasu too.

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>>160520689
No.

>>160520537
Ginyu Force are the definition of characters added to extend the story. You could easily cut them out and just have Goku appear in his ship after the Freeza fight starts. They'd never appear in a limited series type run. You'd just get Zarbon and Dodoria.

>>160520780
That's because Glacier Vegeta is fusion fodder for Baked Alaska Vegetto.

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>Yfw the holding back meme is true

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Are you ready for 2minutes of Brianne transformation in the next episode

>>160520815
But they actually had personality. Everyone in Super who isn't a Saiyan or from U7 may as well be the same character.

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>>160520700
This
Anime a shit

>>160520842
>images on the left
The latin america fandom was a mistake.

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>>160520783
we will get to see Gowasu getting deleted, pretty soon.

>>160520861
I'm more looking forward to the 20 minutes of Brianne pummeling Jobeta

>>160520893
>that shitty coloring
no

>>160520861
I'd honestly prefer lengthy transformation scenes than the nonstop giggling we now hear from antagonists to kill time.

>>160520842
memes aside, do any of you people really think kale, krillin or 17 would have survived if he fired a kamehameha that is the size of the one he fired at zamasu?

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>>160520098
Nice headcanon.
Now now don't feel too bad, I won't mock you that much for waifuing a bitch that gets mad at her little sis for getting in the way of a fight she was losing meaning she was saving her from jobbing that soon. In fact I'm pretty much done already.

>>160520897
>Complaining about something so trivial
Autism was a mistake.

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>>160520689
Yes

>>160520815

by this logic you could cut out the entire cell saga and skip straight to boo after everyone learns how to become a super saiyan.

You can't just say a character is filler when they don't advance the plot when fighting them IS the plot

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>>160520932
Yes

>>160520842
It's plainly obvious, anon. Power levels are still a thing, but they're being a lot less strict while handling them. If it had been in Z, Gohan would have just tanked Krillin's hits without flinching.

>>160520939
That leaked U6 SS4 looks sick.

>>160520021
>boobs are distracting meanwhile her ass is outrageous looks like it wants to rip out of her pants
muh

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>>160520902
FUCK YOU

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>>160520893
The Future Trunks edition of the RoF film remained faithful to the manga.

>>160520902
I would've liked to see U10's reaction to their strongest fighter getting put down.

>>160520970
Fighting the Ginyu Force isn't the plot.

Cant wait for 18 to get the MVP award and wish for money.

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>Gohan, Vegeta and Krillin will never team up again like against Recome
>Gohan will never be as aggressive/stubborn to give up on fights again
>Vegeta will never use as cool combo attacks as he did against Recoome
>Krillin will never be relevant again

sometimes I even wonder why live

>>160520815
Yeah but i would be weird seeing all of DBZ in OVA format.
Frieza without the Ginyus and Krillin, Gohan
Androids without Gero and 19
Buu skipping Majin Vegeta, Hercule fun, and probably less Super Buu

>>160521066

yes, it literally is. The point of the show is to introduce characters and have our characters fight them

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Why isn't there a single immortal fighter from any of the universes?

>Giving people zenkais by fighting secondary antagonists so they can fight stronger opponents later on isn't part of the plot
Pedros at it again.

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>>160521084
theres still time for Gohan and Vegeta team up in ToP.

I really wish to see that.

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Why did goku lose weight since the freeza fight?
shitomuro

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>>160521016
Same for the rest of the fight, Namek was actually Namek, like it was in the manga.
In the anime Namek became fucking Hell because why not

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>>160520204

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This is the FACTUAL RANKING of the most efficient fighters during the "Tournament of Power"
#1 - Goku and Vegeta: 6 fighters both of 'em
#3 - Kale: 5
#4 - Caulifla and 18: 4
#6 - Krillin: 2.5
#7 - Cabba: 2
#8 - Roshi: 1.5
#9 - Tien and Hit and Basil: 1
#10 - every other fighter seemingly: 0

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>>160521084
>Vegeta will never use as cool combo attacks as he did against Recoome

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>>160521084
WHAT DID YU SAY?
MO ATATATATA
HOPE YOU RIKE IT

*RAUGHS*

>>160521149
>zenkais
>powerlevels
go away pedro

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>>160519541

>Gets kidnapped by his evil uncle and gets knocked out, learns his father died

>Gets kidnapped by his father's rival who tosses him into the wilderness with dinosaurs

>Forced to fight aliens and watches his comrades die, hears father getting tortured

>Goes to another planet, fight for survival, watches innocents get murdered, gets neck snapped, head crushed, etc

>Deal with bad future awaiting, get father killed due to arrogance

>All of this before he's 9 years old


How did Gohan turn out normal still? I mean it's not surprising he doesn't like to fight

>>160521066
They literally gave Freeza the Dragon Balls and made him go to the Elder, giving Krillin and Gohan the opportunity to make two wishes while Vegeta was sleeping. Without the Ginyu Force, the story becomes VERY different. We'd likely have gotten another Goku vs Vegeta, either because Vegeta didn't help the others or for the Dragon Balls. No truce, no ZPU for Goku, lots of things change.

>>160521076
Wasn't it stated the last warrior left standing up the ending would be the one to get the wish, or am I misremembering. If that's the case there would be room for infighting assuming a team is left with too many people once the 48 minutes are up/all other team have been vanquished.

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>>160521084
>>160521151

For whatever reason I think Jiren has some contempt for the other pride troopers.

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Why did Toyo nerf Beerus?

>>160521183
Fuck you, Paco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQA8hDFpw6Y

So will it ever be explained why a Yardrat is in U2, or is that just Toei fucking up again?

>>160521171
How does one score half a ring out

>>160521165
I appriciate the color page but what the fuck is up with the picture quality?

>Purple flames
Really makes me wonder

>>160521226
>my headcanon is wrong? Nerf!
(You)

>>160521176
Vegeta casually breaking the laws of physics there

>>160521149

you know they could have just scaled down freeza's power a little bit so they wouldn't need jobber boosts. Goku could have landed directly on namek and immediately fought freeza

>>160521254
No you fucking idiot. In the anime, it's stated that Beerus can destroy anything. He hakais an immortal ghost

>>160519680
Has the anon that colored this done anything else?

>>160521226
Is this for real?

What do you think Caulifla is " in to"?

>>160521222
I think Jiren has contempt for everybody. Look at the eternal face of disgust he keeps giving to everybody. I think it is because he is the realest guy who knows the awful truth: no matter how hard they tried or how far they get, in the end it doesn't even matter because Goku is the protagonist and he is destined to win.

>>160521197
Actually the last one was when he was 11

Who would you say Goku considers his best friend to be, Krillin or Vegeta?
On one hand, Vegeta, as a fellow sayan, is capable of understanding and empathizing with his urges a lot more, and in spite of their past animosity they have worked and fought together multiple times, their combat synergy has been tempered by their near-death struggles, and they seem to share a unique yet genuine camaraderie despite Vegeta's coldness. On the other, Goku has known Krillin for much longer, having trained together with him as they helped each other grow as fighters and people under Roshi's tutelage, they shared a much healthier rivalry in the past, are always happy to see each other and Krillin's death is about the one thing capable of pushing Goku over any conceivable edge that he might not otherwise.

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>>160519541
Am I a faggot if I find mild-muscled Kale to be super hot?

>>160521289
>in the anime
So no nerf because manga =/= anime

Also ghost aren't immortal. Nice try, though.

>>160521296
Gang things.
Robbing and the like.

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>>160521296
Gentle femdom and mommy roleplay.

At least in my fantasies/headcanon

>>160521321
No.

>>160521251
Yeah, I dunno about that one - I just got the pic just to see Rose in color.

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>>160521151
I really don't want to get my hopes up at all
but I really want them tandem someone

>>160521197
He channels all of his evil into his relatives
>Mentor is "demon king" reincarnation
>wife is Devil Satan
>most all of his attacks have something devil or evil related in them

>>160521294
>>160521294
Yes it is. This means Goku's Hakai would've failed. Zamasu would've reformed from sand
>>160521330
It's a nerf from the anime you dumbfuck. You toyocucks are pathetic, and make us real manga fans look bad

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>>160521313
Gohan is 16 in the Buu saga. 7 years passed since Cell. Wouldn't he be 9?

>>160521226
So it wasn't enough to nerf Hit, Toyotaro went ahead and nerfed Beerus too? Man, when I think I'm starting to warm up to the manga he does something like that. Shame, because the anime is dogshit and I would like to have an actual good version of Dragon Ball Super.

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>>160519680
This shit felt incredible.

>>160521222
I think Jiren might be a bad guy on probation. Fight for the Pride Troopers or get hakai'd kinda deal. He looks like an asshole so far honestly.

>>160521289
Wrong his Hakai didn't work on Future Zamasu because he was immortal and didn't work on Black because the time ring protected him for some reason.

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>>160521364

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>>160520447
That's my problem with Super, during Z you had a bunch of characters fight the villains until it came down to Goku vs main villain.
And during Z they at least have some logic regarding power levels. Krillin for example had 0 chances against Freezer, Cell and Buu, but now they have him fighting god-like characters without being killed with 1 hit.
Pic related is what Krillin should be able to do against pretty much every fighter/villain from Super.

>>160521164
I never actually consciously realized how stupid it was to make Namek red with lava everywhere. I guess the games just conditioned me to think that was normal.

>>160521313
Sorry burger-kun, but Gohan was 9 when he fought Cell.

>>160521321
I wanna lick Kale's armpits, arms, belly, thick thighs and feet. I want to worship her and prep her for a date with Caulifla.

>>160521387
He never Hakai'd Black or Future Zamasu you fucking retard. Beerus didn't understand how time travel worked and was corrected the very next episode
Black didn't disappear because Beerus hakaid a different Zamasu
God DB fans are idiots.

>>160521321
All the U6 Saiyans should've been designed with that bulk.

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Is it just me or has Toeishill posting gone down by a ton? For the past couple threads all I've seen is most people praising the manga, with the occasional shill getting 4-6 replies telling him to fuck off.

>mfw these threads are turning almost wholly Toyochad

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>>160521313
he was 9

>>160521368
>It's a nerf from the anime
Except manga =/= anime, Pedro.
Toyo can't nerf shit from the anime because manga is a different version and anime isn't its source. Sorry you are too stupid to understand what words means

>>160521372
>>160521404
He spent time in the time chamber, so he was 11 although fewer years had passed. He celebrates his 11th birthday right before the Cell Games.

It says he's 17 in the Buu Saga anyway.

>>160520101
Depends on which super saiyan it is. Goku as he is now for instance is far stronger of a super saiyan than Goten as a super saiyan, maybe even stronger than super saiyan 3 Gotenks.

>>160521502
God you're a retard.

>>160521476
It is because Toei is basically indefensible at this point. They went too far with their incompetence, no one can defend them now with a straight face.

>>160521458
>He never Hakai'd Black or Future Zamasu you fucking retard.
>being this retarded
Beerus said during the Future Trunks arc if a God kills another kill God if would effect space and time. Black also stated he was alive thanks to the time ring.

>>160521226
>Why did Toyo nerf Beerus?
Because the Super Dragon Balls should be able to grant immortality that's stronger than a God of Destruction. It seems like this was just meant to show that Goku's Hakai wouldn't have worked against Zamasu either.

are kale and caulifla yuri types?

I actually can't tell

>>160521506
>He celebrates his 11th birthday right before the Cell Games.

Why are you including filler/

>>160521389
okay there was that one time

>just realize that Gohan is literal child soldier
>just realize most of the cast are child soldiers

>>160521243
When Krillin cut that parrot-dude's wing with his Kienzan, he would no longer fly properly. Due to that, he was unable to avoid Roshi's Kamehameha, and so got knocked out.

Without Krillin's wing cut, Roshi couldn't have knocked him out. Therefore Krillin gets 0.5 point, alright?

>>160521476
People realized anime is shit after THAT awful episode 100

>>160521542
You fucking idiot. He was then told he was wrong on the very next episode. Please kill yourself. He didn't understand alternate timelines and made that part up to justify not going to the future
You're a fucking moron, holy shit kill yourself.

>>160519970
But he can't steal energy. That was the main problem with trying to collect energy for the spirit bomb against Kid Buu until Mr Satan helped. It has to be given willingly.

>>160521548
Kale has the perfect body in her controlled form and that is what matters. She should be kept in that state forever.

>>160521506
>He celebrates his 11th birthday right before the Cell Games.
filler
>It says he's 17 in the Buu Saga anyway.
dubbism

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>>160521557
Gohan only gets like that as a SSJ2. He's probably aware of it.

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>>160521506
Nice filler, idiot, but he was canonically 9.

>>160521254
>Toeishills whine about "powerlevel fags"
>Toeishills sperg out when characters' manga counterparts aren't strong enough for them

>>160521587
Stop being stupid. It was stated not to work because Future Zamasu was immortal and Black was wearing the time ring. Watch the arc retard.

>>160521132
>Super will never be bloody

>>160520893
>>160520700
>>160521016

Toriyama ended the battle very bad.

When they summon Porunga, he told Kaio to stay on Namek si he could finish his fight with Freeza, then ONE CHAPTER LATER he says "i don't want to fight anymore lol".

>>160521659
You
are
a
fucking
moron
holy
shit.
They flat out spell it out for you you dumbass.

>>160521655
Shut the fuck up cuck

>>160521552
It's still part of the anime, which is what I was talking about. He could be 9 in the manga.

He still spends two or three years in the time chamber, so he's still technically about 11.

>>160519541
They can't pretend he's canon anymore

Why so much shitposting in this thread?

>>160521684
Why did they tone down the violence for all the parts except for zamazu's arc

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>>160521619
Gohan gets blinded with power or used to

>>160521533
>manga-Beerus NEVER had the power to destroy immortals
>then manga-Beerus says he can't destroy immortals
>"nerf"
Sorry anon but that's not how this world works, use your brain or stop posting.

>>160521171

Freeza has 2 KOs and Frost 1

>>160521687
>no argument
>writes like a retard
Welp no point in arguing with you

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>>160521476
>>160521537
>>160521579
Nice samefagging, Toyopedro.

Go back to making those sloppy tacos.

>>160521685
he didn't want to fight anymore because he had beaten frieza to his satisfaction

>>160521720
Toyocucks.

>>160521687
Please, don't call him stupid. It is rude. Let us not go that far.

>>160521619
>This is why he said he doesn't want to use Super Saiyan transformations anymore

2 deep

Why do Mexicans love DBZ so much? And is the Mexidub worth watching?

>>160521204
Their 2 wishes only brought back Piccolo who accomplished nothing. And if you really need to revive Piccolo to gain access to the earth balls, that part can be moved to happen while Goku and Freeza fight. Goku's zenkai doesn't change the story since Freeza's power was written to just be strong enough to beat Goku until Goku transformed. Goku vs Vegeta doesn't happen since he gets BTFO by Freeza no matter what.

So what ends up happening depending on exactly what parts you cut out: Freeza collects the balls and realizes he can't summon them and goes after Guru. Or he realizes he's been robbed and goes after Vegeta. And then you have the same fucking story.

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>>160521754
>>160521722


But it's his heritage, he must embrace it.

>>160521699
Your concession has been accepted.

>>160521699
>Here we witness a wild Toeishill, autistically screeching as is in their nature.

>>160521226

Reminder that Manga Is more of Goku wankfest than the anime.

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>>160521739
Cute

>>160519579
Now we need Cali to go USS and let them lez out.

>>160521591
Goku have had time to invent some new tricks. I wouldn't be surprised if some asspull would happen to pull it off.

>>160521792
bullshit

>>160521767
iI is loved internationally

>>160521793
This is unnerving

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>>160521785
My sides. I fucking love concessionfags.

>>160521730
Well fuck me, Sherlock. Unbelievable, how could I forget 'em?

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>>160521792
Yeah this is fucking GT over again

>>160521767
I think the dub is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOc-tXrUAI0

>>160521768
So basically just strip away anything that happens in between, all the Dragon Ball, betrayal, hiding shenanigans and just go to Goku vs Freeza.

Because Namek is not about getting the Dragon Balls and resurrecting the deads, it's about Goku and Freeza fighting because their powers are MAXIMUM, right? I mean it's not like they came here to resurrect their friends in the first place.

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>>160521792

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>>160521793
>Toyocucks will defend this

>>160521792
I'd rather have a Goku wankfest than sword of friendship with unknown Genki Dama. At least there's buildup for Goku accomplishing something.

>>160521936
>Goku hakaing Zamasu

Is Toyotaro's manga the Dark Souls of Dragon Ball Super?

>>160519658
I think that's just her SS2 hair being blown back. It has 6 spikes along the top in both shots.

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>>160521936
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY HEADCANON HAS BEEN RAPED BY TOYO

>>160521904
>>160521809
>>160521832

Goku has gotten more BTFO than anyone in the anime, and side characters (fodder) also more screentime.

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>>160521739
I'll enjoy tacos at my friend's house. In America, Pedro. While we talk about how good the manga is.

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>>160521782
>>160521793
Vegeta no

>>160521991
>toyocuck SEETHING

>>160519541
There worst characters in the entire series.

>in two episodes
>muh tingly back feeling
>one goes from ssj1 to ssj2 with no know how and just because she can
>goku says she could even do ssj3, something you can only learn in other world and even vegeta can't
>the other cunt is stronger then lssj broly only because of muh feels and plot armor

They are both terrible designed characters and they only exists for the merch an waifu fags. I would have loved 2 super saiyen girls with power but this is just bullshit. I'm afraid these two characters will taint the DB show and games forever.

>>160521991
>Implying a non-canon manga isn't headcanon

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>>160521936
It's very easy to defend it. :^) Unlike the anime, shilltard.

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>o-out in three days!
lmao

>>160521226
desu it only makes sense even Beerus wouldn't be able to destroy an immortal because it's from the Super Dragon Balls and their whole shtick is that their wishes are absolute.
Even at "half" immortality Zamasu still was effectively immortal to the point where even when has body was atomized his spirit still existed and fused with reality or something. Even regular Shenlong can wish for immortality (at least that's what everyone believes), but it would probably not be the absolute kind.

Super Shenlong absolutely is higher than GoD's in the pecking order

Guys Goku never killed anybody, it's part of his character's archetype

>>160522056
anon this is a civil thread. Please.

>>160521687
It's you whose wrong anon.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Ring

>According to Beerus, if a god alters history, it would effect the future of a different timeline. Goku Black is the Zamasu of the same timeline in which he was killed by Beerus in the present, but due to wearing the Time Ring he was unaffected by changes in the past. Future Zamasu was the Zamasu of Future Trunks' timeline so he was not affected by present day Zamasu's death with a new time ring being created as a result.

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>>160521793
>>160521822
>>160522018

Why is Gohan always getting molested?

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>>160522042
>>160522039
So futile..

Will Toyotaro redeem himself in the ToP manga version, or will he ruin it just as he did with U6 Tournament and Black's arc third act?

He's pretty good at building up the beginning and the middle of every arc but fucks up in the end

>>160521792
Except in the manga, Vegeta got to save face against Hit and actually overpowered Black without getting thwarted by a magical clone-spewing portal.

The only character who got truly downgraded in the manga was Trunks and for good reason. No longer can he turn into a Not!SSB because he's angry or use the Genki Dama because he's really angry.

>>160521904
Reminder this is proof that full power SSB IS something that existed on the outlines toriyama gave Toei but the latter being utters retards interpreted it as Goku's lazy "ki control" thing allowing him to go as strong as he wants despite it resulting in some lame damage to his body.
Another reminder that this move makes absolutely no sense given how he can power up in a safer manner with the kaioken there, meaning the kaioken is Toei fanfiction that fundamentally conflicts with Toriyama's outlines.

>>160522076
>dragon ball wiki

I accept your concession.

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>>160522048
Use this one

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>>160522041

>>160522076
Beerus was wrong you fucking retard. Trunks and Bulma flat out tell him this. The wiki writer is a full on retard. All Beerus did was create a new timeline
This fanbase is retarded holy fucking shit

>>160522077
Because Goku didn't hug him enough.

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>Cauli
>Kale
How come everyone seems to forget about the first female Super Saiyan??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoXhfOckwVE

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Kalifla when?

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>>160522141

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Why didn't they ever make Piccolo stronger and able to keep up?

>DBZ needs more battle manga style with henchmen of the big bad like One Piece

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This is the FACTUAL RANKING of the most efficient fighters during the "Tournament of Power" *Updated Version*
#1 - Goku and Vegeta: 6 fighters both of 'em
#3 - Kale: 5
#4 - Caulifla and 18: 4 fighters each
#6 - Krillin: 2.5
#7 - Cabba and Frieza: 2
#9 - Roshi: 1.5
#10 - Tien, Hit, Frost and Basil: 1
And as fo' every other fighter it seems: 0

>>160522141
kek

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>>160522077
Because Gohan is masochist

>>160522048
>>160522130

>Using the headcannon image

Lmao

>>160521792
I fail to see the problem.

>>160522095
>will toyotaro be as based as usual
I hope so, toeishill. I really hope so

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>>160522183
>>160522162
>>160522141
>>160522077

It all makes sense now

>>160519680
Upvoted.

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Out in 6 days.

>>160522169
It's even weirder when you consider that Piccolo is one of Toriyama's favorite characters, and a fan favorite. And still yet to do anything of note in Super.

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>>160519680

>>160521991
>B-b-b-b-b-b-BUT HAKAI IS BULLSHIT! It makes no sense and unlike Trunks' sword isn't even good thematically. Trunks won because he had friends! Zamasu has no friends so he cut bifurcated! How dare you despise these thematics!

>>160522136
Stop being retarded, Black explains why he wasn't erased, there was no need to do that if Beerus was wrong you fucking fool.

>>160522130
Maybe you should color the word 技 ("waza", technique) too

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>No emotion
>No good reason
>Just this dumb line
God Toyo is such a shit writer. Stick to fights.

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/Our guy/

>>160522219
You mean Vegeta, right?

Another one of the U7 jobbers needs to get knocked the fuck off. I also want more Beerus berating Z fighters for getting knocked off.

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Okay, I cracked the incredibly simple code.

All the combatants have a border the same color as their universe symbol.
Pride Troopers have a red border, and I'm fairly certain the one with the stars would be theirs.

Anyone got screens of members of other universes being eliminated? We can at least find out what color they are.
Did they ever hit Krillin's button on screen?

>>160522270
You're a fucking moron. Black explains he's alive because he was able to jump to another timeline thanks to the time ring
End your life, you're a fucking idiot. DB is somehow too complicated for your retarded brain

>>160522041
Keep crying buddy. They are great and they aren't going anywhere.

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>>160522283
Try harder, toeishill.

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>>160522048
>>160522130
>This is """foreshadowing""" to Toyodrones
>Setting the bar this low
JUST

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CHADlifla
>strong
>beautiful
>intelligent
>natural prodigy
>has highest potential (went from not knowing what super saiyan is to being capable of reaching super saiyan 3 in 1 day)
>protects her waifu (who's also SSB tier or higher)
>brother highly praises her
>managed to impress Son Goku with her amazing fighting capabilities

KEKhan
>weak
>jobber
>""""""scholar"""""" with no job
>cheats on his wife
>thinks cosplay is cool
>doomed the earth because he got cocky after unlocking his """""potential""""
>his dad never cared about him
>let his waifu get raped in front of thousands of people
>lost to a gay furry in front of multiple gods
>only achievement is beating cell with the help of 10 other people
>fanbase consists of edgy mexicans that self insert into him and legitimate pedophiles

I can't even fathom how Gohanfags exist, shit fanbase for a shit character

>>160522041
broly isn't canon

>>160522283
>Toei shill SEETHING

It's pretty obvious that Brihanne will fall in love with Freeza going by the NEP

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>>160522303
Whoops, wrong picture.
Here's the one with the numbers we know so far.

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Huh. The super hero-like guy from universe 3 has an unmasked design in Zen'o's table. Considering this and his big spot in the ending, I guess he won't be fodder.

>>160522340
trying THIS hard

Why does everybody hate the ToP? Because Goku 'holding back'/going SSB for no reason and Kale, I have been loving this arc. Better than going back to the past 8 different times.

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Catching up
>Krillin saving 18 from falling

>>160522352
I'm more hyped for the scientist. However, he has a staff and arent weapons against the rules?

>>160522283
There was a side chapter where Gohan intervenes and convinces Trunks to go, but for some reason that didn't get translated.

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>>160522331
>Has to make a side story after everyone calls his chapter shit
>His chapter is still shit anyway, the side story makes it even worse
Toyocucks will defend this

>>160522333
>toeishill don't know what foreshadowing is
Sad

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Foreshadowing
>A clue or allusion embedded in the narrative that predicts some later event or revelation. It could be something a character says or does, an event that doesn't make sense until much later, a Meaningful Name, or really anything at all. The foreshadowing may be ominous, or seem perfectly innocent at the time.

>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect. Genuinely bad foreshadowing either deflates the suspense or is too obfuscated (such as an Ice Cream Koan) to predict anything. It's also equally problematic if used excessively. Foreshadowing may establish something to avoid an Ass Pull. Or it may put a viewer off as introducing a needless supernatural element to the story.

Again
>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect.

>In literature, foreshadowing is commonly done when a possibility is mentioned, but almost immediately dismissed or disproved. To some readers, they will dismiss the suggested possibility just as the unsuspecting characters do. More experienced readers will immediately call the author's bluff and know what to expect.

Jiren aside, ToP is just a U6 and U7 wankfest.

When will Roshi, Tien, Piccolo, 17 and 18 get rekt? Hopefully they won't all lose to Jiren at once.

>>160522322
>Black explains he's alive because he was able to jump to another timeline thanks to the time ring
Wrong you fucking retard, watch the episode that's not what he said.

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>>160522343
Can't wait for Freeza to become the bull in the Jobgeta/Brianne relationship.

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>>160522340
joblifa is weak fodder

>>160522409
Next ep. Reminder that Tien is a jobber.

Anime
>inconsistencies at power levels but giving screentime to side characters.

Manga
>Apparently consistent power levels but only Goku & (sometimes) Vegeta Show

Choose your poison

I prefer the anime

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>>160522404
>after everyone calls his chapter shit
You tried too hard, toeidog.

>>160522347
I'll bet U7 is the blue one which looks like a tree because of Beerus's castle.

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Weekend threads are so terrible.

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>>160522405
>A good enough foreshadowing doesn't spoil the surprise, yet seems an obvious clue in retrospect.
>He thinks that was good foreshadowing

>>160522352
Looks like an angel.

>>160522431
Goku, Vegeta and 17 will do most of the fighting and they most certainly won't job.

>>160522294
Honestly the way Zamasu ended up having parallels with the barbarians he despised so much and essentially became what he despised was great.

>>160521290
Yeah, I've colored a few things. I'd post them, but I'm not at my computer.

>>160522464
>threads are so terrible

Literally filled with crossboarders, shills, waifufaags, tripfags, and more.

>>160522340
Who should be Caulifa's breeding bull?!

>>160522294
Damn that's really cool.

>>160522347
the one with the scale is U5 because they're the "balanced universe"