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>U11 is the biggest threat
What went wrong?
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>>160514103
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.
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>tfw to intelligant too fight
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>>160514103
Blame Jiren.
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hohohohohohoho
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Reminder.
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I made the arena bigger. Better now?
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>Onee-san, please, survive.
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>>160514103
>U11 was the biggest thread
No one ever said that. It's Jiren who's the biggest threat, the rest of them outside of Toppo are complete fodder.
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Caulifla hates goku
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This is the queen of Super generals. Say something nice to her.
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>Goku lets Cauli and Kale stay because he wants to fight them when their stronger
Well that pretty much guarantees that Caulifla is getting SS3
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>>160514305
she has a cute waifu
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Vegeta, noticing that he is no match for U11, instead turns to its counterpart U2, in the hopes of asserting his power. He notices a small green haired girl among the U2 combatants, and thinks to himself, "There is no way I can lose this time". Brianne, notices a manlet with a giant head running towards her, full of malice in his eyes. She smiles, and decides to play with him. Vegeta in SSJ2 fights evenly with her base form. He lands a few good hits and gets cocky, giving his "prince of all jobbers" speech. Halfway through it, Brianne's power shoots up, and she lands a solid punch on Vegeta's nose, breaking it. She tells him that he's ugly and is not allowed to exist. She starts to transform in front of Vegeta, who stands there, mouth wide open, not believing that such a stupid looking creature could have that much power. He stays in SSJ2, refusing to admit that it won't be enough. RiBrianne starts toying with him, calling him names and slowly dwindling his worthless pride down. Vegeta starts breaking down, angry at himself for being so useless and releases his SSB form in the ultimate expression of his cuckoldry. This is it, he thinks to himself, if I cannot best her like this then I don't deserve to live. The real fight begins, and Vegeta goes all out, beating RiBrianne 10 times harder than black. When he's about to land the final blow, RiBrianne looks up smiling, and asks him, "Is that the limit of your power?". Vegeta starts cying at this point. RiBrianne stands up, no visible damage anywhere on her body. She grabs Vegeta's arms mid swing and dislocates both his shoulders, while dancing with him. Vegeta starts screaming for Goku, but he's too busy getting probed by Jiren. "KAKAROT HEEELP MEEE", he screams, as RiBrianne does cartwheels around him and lands on his delicate legs, her humongous body shattering every bone in them. As Vegeta lays there, his hair slowly turning black, he slowly whimpers, in his last act before passing out, "I was holding back..."
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>>160514314
yeah like how him letting vegeta go for that reason guaranteed vegeta would get kaioken
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I love Kale!
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>>160514353
Vegeta did get Super Saiyan though. That's like 50 Kaiokens!
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>>160514305
This level of beauty should be illegal.
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>>160514283
She's retarded, Goku told her about how useless SS Grade 3 is and told her about SS2. So why would he attack Kale while she's down?
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>Jiren resents those fags for acting like villains
>lets them get ringed out
Would do the same desu
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>>160514209
I don't think goku is capable of such a master plan.
also, that would very low key writing, which is too advanced for toei
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>>160514361
*Caulifla

fucking newfags.
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>>160514312
What is it with Saiyans and broken arms?
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>>160514503
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>>160514353
>Goku mentions that Cauli might get SS3 when fighting her
>Goku wants to fight them when their stronger and the only way they can get stronger at this point is if Cauli gets SS3 or Kale manages to go LSS without passing out withen seconds
You have to be retarded not to see what their trying to do.
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>>160514305
I could stay silent and say nothing because of lack of nice things to say, but then again I can simply leave an image which speaks by itself.
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>>160514149
Is this true?
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>>160514305
She's perfect
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>ahhhh lemme go! dont knock me out! please!!
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>>160514500
She's trash now.
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>>160514540
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Reminder Kale and Broly can't go SS, only LSS.
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So

Universes 2 and 11 are sentai heroes and magical girls

Universes 6 and 7 are typical battle shonen stereotypes

Universes 4 and 9 are furry/monster universes

Universes 3 and 10 are brains vs brawn universes

I do like how all of these paired universes actually have consistency to the fact that they are paired.
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>>160514505
More like she was being honest.
Retard not only doesn't bring out her power, she interferes on a fight she was enjoying while she also flexed out her SS2 powers. I don't see anything wrong on Caulifa's side there.
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>>160514529
All of these similarities, how long until.

Vegeta blows himself up again
Caulfla gets Super saiyan 3
And a new fusion character?
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I feel like this arc is going to be one of those things that's only enjoyable when marathoning it like DBZ
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>>160514283
She's just tsundere.
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>>160514529
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>>160514361
Back off anon, she's mine
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>>160514604
Kale went from literally who to perfection in one episode
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>>160514599
>Gone next week, they said
>Gone in a few days, they said
>Gone tomorrow, they said
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>>160514628
Here anon, proper scaling.
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>>160514604
She was trash to begin with.
Don't get too ahead of yourself though, your tail less u6 """""saiyan""""" bastards are not too much better and especially not the snowflake sister of Trashifla.
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>>160514678
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>>160514205
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hmmm really makes you think uuh
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>>160514694
GONE IN THREE WEEKS. THREE WEEEEKSKSKAFJSLFSALKFKLSGFJSA
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Heres the deal, Gohan punches someones head clean off. Which character does he behead?

I vote Kale.
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>>160514742
>that Whis face
kek
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>>160514734
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Where's smugpup?
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>>160514103
Simple, To hype him up, Jiren has to be the biggest threat of the biggest threats in the tourney. This of course requires the Purido Troopers to be presented as the strongest team.
However, the catch to this is that designing 9 other characters with powerful and uniques abilities turns out to be really hard (laughs).

So what's the solution? Simple, have a bunch of them job so we don't have to put in that effort of actually writing good fights
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>>160514840
he jobbed to kriller
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>>160514709
Thanks, anon
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>>160514840
the poster or fighter?

fighter jobbed to krillin's smelly shoe. poster damage-controlled and started shilling kamen rider.
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UPDATED LATE
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>>160514840
off fapping to Kamen Rider
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I can't think of it as anything else than a slap to all DB/DBZ fans out there.
Recycled characters, messed up power levels (I don't even want to start), lazy designed "new forms" and elements that made Dragonball what it is today gone. Rage, blood, intense fights that would go on for 5-10 episodes. All gone.. All for the sake of attracting kids and making new games. Who cares about the show and it's fans, we'll just make new forms that make no sense and pull some random characters out of our asses so that people would buy Dragonball Xenoverse 3 right?
This is not Dragonball, this is an insult.. The only thing keeping in the top 10 at the moment is people's nostalgia and ignorance. There's no love for this anime anymore and it should have stayed dead. Better that than this abomination.
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>>160514840
He took emotional damage after his fursona got BTFO
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>>160514664
Yep, it's gonna take 5 minutes for anything to happen.
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Yay? Nay?
Part 1
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>>160514949
Do it Gohanbro. They CANNOT get away with this anymore.
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>>160514777
It better be Frieza
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>>160514967
>Yay? Nay?
Part 2
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>>160514912
So far U6 and U2 are in the best shape with all 0 of their fighters still left, and U7 is in a good third with 9 of theirs left.

U10 and 11 are in the worst shape with only 4 left

10 will likely be eliminated next.

11 will only survive until the end thanks to Toppo and Jiren
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>>160514967
>>160515023
nay
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What is the point of anything, let alone this fucking arc? Nothing matters, everyone is fucking fodder swept aside for the saiyans, and inevitably Goku/Jiren/Freeza. Nothing has any logic anymore, it's just "shit happens however and whenever the writers want based on what's convenient for them".
>resuse animation
>garbage animation
>the same resused ost inserts
>exaggerate random small things to add the illusion of suspense and interest only for them to not matter at all later
>completely disregard every bit of power level logic, which wouldn't be a problem, but they also disregard every bit of martial art logic. It's so bad everything is just a beam struggle with whomever "feels" more wins
>everything looks like shit, every fucking attack and energy visual looks like wimpy little budget blasts that may or may not, slightly dirty the enemy (Black lines instead of ANY bit of gore)
>Fucking plots points brought up and put down every episode
>heaps of wasted character designs, why the fuck did the robot leader just get eliminated casually by Cabba?
>every new strong character is some edgy donotsteal like Jiren or Hit who doesn't talk and is just there to look cool
>Super Saiyan Blue just being thrown around every chance they get to hype up the 8 year olds for 10 seconds
>The voice acting actually starting to get repetitive and annoying, most likely the fault of the dialogue
>the entire theme of the fucking tournament being completely wasted by the way they go around the stadium fighting
This is like watching a fucking Chinese knockoff of Dragon Ball, except it's fucking real.
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>>160514967
Nay

>>160515023
Yay
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>>160514840
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I love Hit!
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>>160514967
I mean that's basically how it looks in the anime. Anyways yay.
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>>160515023
Yay they fixed kale's middle finger. It was broken and an eyesore in the debut of that berserk form
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>>160515037
I swear to god, If Goku wins and uses the Dragon to wish back all wiped out universes then I'm dropping DBS for good.
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>>160514840
Maybe he realized DBS is a lost cause?
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>>160514103
this is fucking pathetic you all should be ashamed to keep watching this shit.
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>>160515037
>why the fuck did the robot leader just get eliminated casually by Cabba?
You must be retarded, the whole point was to showcase that trying to focus on ONE thing, like brains only, or brawn only, in the case of Universe 10 and 3, doesn't fucking work, because GOOD fighters have a mix of both
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Has it been shown or stated that Zenos is unkillable/insanely strong outside of his Hakai attack? Everyone is terrified of him, but could you theoretically just run up to him and use Hakai on him? Is he just a glass cannon and that's why he has so many bodyguards and they're so fearful of anyone getting near him?
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>>160515127
Kid buu was a retard and he beat everyone he ever fought 1v1
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>>160515127
But they didn't even highlight what the robots were even supposed to do, they were just created and thrown away. Wouldn't you have a point if they actually had a chance to fight first, brainlet?
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>>160515185
It's stated during the Black Arc that even with Black's power there is zero chance he could have killed Zeno.
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>>160514930
I don't think it's nostalgia, I'm just waiting for it to somehow change back to what it once was, basically I'm just waiting for it to get good but I know that It won't.
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>>160515198
gohanfags ruined his reputation
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>>160515185
I'm under the impression he's simply a decoy
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>>160514103
It's was the biggest threat... unfortunately they preferred to save energy, I mean, every Pride Trooper have incredible and veru useful techniques, if everyone had fought together they would have won the tournament already because they have the heavy hitters like Toppo and Jiren to protect the others.

Now that they are only four and Jiren is so OP I think they will not lose more members, I feel really bad for Kahseral, he was one of the best.
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>CAULIFAGS IN FULL SHILL MODE
HAAHAHHAHAHAH pathetic how much triggered you guys are keep it coming
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>>160515216
>But they didn't even highlight what the robots were even supposed to do
Except they did, there was an entire segment about how the robots had shit like suction cups, and spinny arm shit, that they were going to use to stick to the arena, and knock opponents off ,and then we see actual well rounded fighters like Hit kicking their ass, even after they pull these kinds of stunts, because you cant win via gimmicks like that
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>>160515227
I miss blood anon.
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>>160514283
He haven't learn how to love and sex.
Goku will teach her.
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How do we get Zeno to erase these threads?
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alright which one of you stole my donuts?
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>>160515218
But Black isn't capable of Hakai. What I'm saying is if someone capable of Destruction that hasn't been brainwashed into instantly fearing him just runs up and Hakais him would he survive?
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>>160514604
This. Kale is the new hotness.
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Are the pride troopers names a reference to anything?
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>>160514967
>>160515023
Extra(?)
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>>160515198
Gohan in a jobber and his fans are delusional.
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>>160515127
>You must be retarded, the whole point was to showcase that trying to focus on ONE thing, like brains only, or brawn only, in the case of Universe 10 and 3, doesn't fucking work, because GOOD fighters have a mix of both
This. Murichim's name is literally a pun on how useless his team is going to be, and U9's main fault was going after the second-strongest fighter in the whole tournament all at once, while U4's fault is going to be trying to focus on schemes and sneak attacks on people far above their level, making the most balanced and viable universes 6, 7, 2, and 11.
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>>160515342
NEVER
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>>160515037
I feel you, buddy. We have more than 60 new characters and we still don't know jack shit about them.

We couldn't have a few filler episodes showing how life is in the other universes?
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>>160515335
>>160515385
>sc

Its silly when people complain about pacing when half an episode of Z was just two fighters taking a massive dump. Aaaaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!
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>>160514103
Only Jiren, Toppo and !Beerus are a threat.
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>>160515287
A whole universe was simply created to be fodder for 10 seconds for donotsteal man? Really?
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>>160515336
Probably, since Zerno is the god of gods, he would likely, at most, simply reappear with a halo on his head like King Kai did.

He lives in a zone outside of the universes, where things like life and death likely don't really mean anything to him.
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>>160514800

>Hop
>now this girl

Does this appeal to Toriyama?
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Love Yuriko Yamaguchi.
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>>160515390
Super is way too trash and has no good fights.
Why bother entering 80 warriors into a tournament and blow them away from the arena by the half dozens.
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>>160515335
It was Vegeta.
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What's their end game?
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>>160515424
Best tits in the series so far
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>>160515469
fight in the tournament
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>>160515336
All techniques in Dragon Ball fail if the opponent has a big enough strength gap.
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>>160515454
Oops, was gonna say Super is way too fast (paced), but I guess that works too.
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>>160515407
Yes, the WHOLE point of this arc was that all of these universes are shit, because they are run by shit gods, and only the universe that can prove itself the best can survive.

This is why U6 and U7 are doing so fucking well, while the average level of their civilizations was low, they managed to become well rounded universes, instead of gimmick based ones like the others.

The whole point of the tournament is that all the other universes suck balls.
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>>160515480
WRONG
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>>160515480
Nope.
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Reminder Toei a shit
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>>160515343
Tupperware
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>>160515198
>Gohan's performance in Super is mediocre
>Gohanfags shitposting about how he will be the strongest strongest
>One Gohanfag makes bets he never keeps
>Another Gohanfag got so assblasted he posted 3D CP
>Cauliflafags bullying Gohanfags for no real reason
Anything I'm missing?
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>>160515540
Wow, I had totally forgotten about this
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>>160515548
Then leave. No one gives a fuck about perriot here
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>>160515105
Nah, regular SS resembles gold, Kale's hair is more like pyrite in the anime
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>>160515424
I knew I recognized that voice!
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>>160515502
>The whole point of the tournament is that all the other universes suck balls
But what does that do for the audience and the story? Why create the idea of other universes if they're all fucking pointless and add nothing to the story? It just seems like they made fodder for the saiyans to fight and beat.
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>>160515480
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>>160515469
Kill Zeno, Kill GP, Kill all the Angels and all of the GoDs. Now they will live in peace.
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>>160515480
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Why are only U6 and U7 getting eliminations? What are the other universes doing?
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A lot of people have been complaining about how super sucks lately. How the animation is bad, the power scaling is terrible, and that the writer's don't know anything. Super at its core is a money grab that aims to sell merchandise to 10-12 year olds mainly located in Japan. You, 20-30 year old western fans that grew up watching dragon ball and dbz, are not the target audience. When caulifla is getting new transformations out of nowhere, or when kale is throwing goku like a ragdoll, these all serve as to sell caulifla and kale figures. You don't go and watch spongebob and complain how a crab is the father of a whale.
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>>160515706
Leaving it to Universe 6 and 7.
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>>160515657
what a cute she was.
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>>160515680
They're lucky that this isn't a best girl universal fight otherwise universe 6 would've dominated with Caulifla.
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>>160515630
> Why create the idea of other universes if they're all fucking pointless and add nothing to the story?
They do add to the story, specifically, they add to show ho fucking easy it is to get far by doing gimmicks, but only true fighters, who actually put REAL WORK, into improving themselves, will get the furthest.

Its all one big ass allegory for how to not be a loser, while also its a big joke were Dragon Ball basically shits all over other kinds of anime by showcasing how they would do the best in a what if they fought senario
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>>160515709
>dragonball has stooped so low as to be compared to spongebob, a comedy show no less
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>>160515379
>most balanced and viable universes 6, 7, 2, and 11
Seeing how U11 just saw more than half the team get their smug asses beat in one episode. What are you going to say when U2 sees their strongest warriors get thrown out next episode?
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>>160515302
I miss solid hand painted colours, I miss the great cinematic shots that were taken directly from the manga, I miss the great fights, I miss the moments that created tension in between fights, I miss musical cues, I miss speed lines and I miss when weaker characters courageously fought characters that were way stronger than them.
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>>160515709
>It's okay for things to be complete shit if they are aimed at children!
Fuck off Takagi. Seriously.
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>>160515548
Is this a weekly release?

How is toei unable to keep up when it's Dragon Ball is a money printer.
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>>160515706
>not hiding out and conserving energy
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>>160514209
>Goku and Frieza are working together to overthrow the gods
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Fresh shitty OC
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>>160515706
This "battle royale" sucks, all those explosions in the background are just for show.
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>>160515839
>I miss the great cinematic shots that were taken directly from the manga
there is no way to get this since Super anime is ahead of the manga.
>I miss when weaker characters courageously fought characters that were way stronger than them.
That usually had the weaker one struck down or just be fodder till the real deal shows up? That wasnt always good
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>>160514439
well shit son all the ugly people be going to jail then
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>>160515897
Shin will be jealous. He lowkey wants Gohan deep in his lavender scented bp.
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>>160514503
it looks cool
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>>160515839
hold me bro
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>>160515917
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT CANON?
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>it was you who knocked out caulifla? i will take you on then.
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>>160515709
>You, 20-30 year old western fans that grew up watching dragon ball and dbz, are not the target audience
Delete this.
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>>160515706
How many warriors are left?
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>>160515994
but Jiren didnt attack caulifa nor did he knock her out
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Why do /v/edditors like the Saiyan girls so much?
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>>160515187
And still got btfo in the end.
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>>160516059
51
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Which is more tolerable? GT or Super?
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Leave Jiren to me.
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I got into Dragon Ball a couple months ago. I originally watched a couple episodes of the OG Z dub before I discovered Kai. I watched Kai completely and found it superior in most ways to the OG dub. But for some reason, people hate Kai with a passion. I understand nostalgia is one factor, but what other reasons could it be? Because Kai haters have absolutely NO legit reasoning to support their hate. Kai IS objectively and factually better than the OG dub.
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>>160516117
Super, by far, its at least interesting to some degree by playing out all the old "what if" scenarios fans used to ask for way back in the day.
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>>160516117
GT
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>>160516094
"It's really cool to see Dragon Ball continue to diversify its character designs and make interesting female characters. Aside from it being interesting that there is a magical girl (woman?) who becomes atypically out of shape for shonen standards, it's interesting how it follows how Toriyama's habit of subverting tropes for humor. But what's even more interesting is that her becoming fat isn't just played for comedy, i.e. her fatness isn't the butt of a joke. It makes her stronger! It's empowering"
That's why
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>>160516117
GT.
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>>160515706
Let me explain something, just in case it's not already clear to you.

Saiyans are broken. If any alien or earthling and a saiyan train to the peak of their ability, the saiyan can still go super and become multiple times stronger than you.

That is all that is happening. The saiyans are dominating on the basis that if anyone can stand toe to toe with them, then they can multiply their power and wipe the floor with you.
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>>160515917
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>>160515706
Popping up when they need to gang up on Goku.
Even most of the eliminations U6 got was because of their vicinity to Goku.
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You know, if Goku and Vegeta had done the honorable thing, resurrected the Saiyan race, and taught them how to go SSJ, U7 would have a much higher average power level.

The real villain is never the person you suspect.
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>>160514818
but where's the fucking monster about to explode? and caulifla doesn't know IT
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>>160516117
BP > GT
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>>160515123
If only the rest of us could realize that
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>>160515469
Atheism by force.
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>>160515931
>That usually had the weaker one struck down or just be fodder till the real deal shows up? That wasnt always good
It was good because it created tension and drama, something that we don't nowadays with super.
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>>160515709
We need a hero.
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>>160514103
They lost to Mary Sues. That's what happened.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13576519
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>>160516117
Super. Not nearly as fucking ass ugly as GT was except for Pan breaking my heart every time she was on screen.
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>>160515706
Getting eliminated
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>>160516117
GT had literally no good villains
>>160516207
What fucking tension? anyone with a brain knew Only Goku, Vegeta and Gohan are the stars of the show and that everyone else is just "lmao i rember that guy! he used to be something"
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>>160516216
God just make the manga weekly already.
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>>160515965
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>>160516144
Better than super.
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>>160514949
All fags, don't just get rid of gohanfags, caulifags, kalefags, brolyfags, briannefags etc. need to go too.
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>>160516117
GT by far.

GT is a watered down version of the original.
Super is a watered down version of AF
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>>160516260
Toyo needs assistants before that but yeah it would be great
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>>160515709
Mr Krabb's daughter is a whale because Krabbs is a money grubbing Jew. A whale women is a whole lot of woman, he's not going to go out with some skinny cunt because she's not value for money.
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>>160516290
This is a fucking stupid meme. on every single youtube video that is a clip of Z or dragon ball (perhaps not GT) there is a comment "better than super lol" WHY?
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>>160515026
>all 0
>0
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RANKING of still active participants

1.- Goku and Vegeta: 6 each one
3.- Kale: 5
4.- Caulifla and 18: 4
6.- Cabba and Roshi: 2
8.- Tien and Hit: 1
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>>160516123
Kai is a watered down version of the original Z, it's censured and it didn't had the original music that was a character itself.
Oh, and no driving school episode.
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>>160516260
I would love this even if it meant a decline in the art. Making the manga weekly could honestly fix most of its issues, as Toyo would have more time to build-up antagonists and create tension.
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>>160515185
Shin states there is nothing that can overcome Zeno in the future Trunks arc.
But Shin has a habit of not knowing his shit so take that with a grain of salt.
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>>160516060
DONT ANGER ME JIREN
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>>160515591
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>>160516338
Fuck off Xicorcuck
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>>160516117
First arcs of both are lame to be honest... GT was like the original Dragon Ball, an adventure, but a lame one in the space... meanwhile, Super first two arcs were adaptations of movies.

I hope things from GT were canon in Super, like super saiyan 4, the dragons, baby... I also think GT was most consistent with powers, everyone except Goku were useless, but it made sense given the time skip, in Z Gohan was the most powerful warrior (confirmed) and six month later he was useless, WTF!
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>>160516338
>filename
Tell me about it.
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>>160514912
thanks for the updae f a m
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>>160516388
Because it is and Super is shit.
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>>160516396
Holy shit how many kills does u7 have?
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>>160516146
^
This

>"What if Goku fought god" = Battle of Gods

>"What if Frieza had untapped potential due to his mutation like Toriyama suggested?" = Resurrection of F

>"What if the cast had to fight their doubles?" = U6 vs U7

>What if Goku was evil?" = Goku Black

>What if Dragon Ball fought other popular animes/Japanese TV shows like Super Sentai(U11), Sailor Moon(U2), Pokemon/Digimon(U9 and 4), robo animes(U3), martial arts animes(U10)
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>>160516466
You let your emotions get the best of you and lose your fights.
Only with a calm mind and proper control can you truly survive the tournament.
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>>160516396
>Roshi 2

>Ten 1

No. Roshi 1, Ten 0,5
Also you forgot 18, who is 1,5 (1 for Cocotte and 0,5 for that furry)
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How many episodes do you think Super will run for? Will it be cut short like GT?
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>>160516260
But the manga is also shit, it's not AS shit but it's still pretty bad
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>>160516483
>I hope things from GT were canon in Super, like super saiyan 4
I would like this too. Have a way for the transformation to be acknowledged, like perhaps someone mentioning that it's an attainable but long forgotten form of the Saiyans.
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>>160516535

18: bunny, furry, tupper and Coccotte
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>>160515469
Homosex
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>>160516339
Shueisha should have some assistants free, hell they could have Dragon Garow Lee help him out.
The manga is selling pretty damn good despite being a promotional manga and it would sell even better in Weekly shouen jump.
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>>160514149
And speaks like an old lady.
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>>160516285
Could be cuter
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>>160516488
wow this is a heavy edit
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Why the hell only Universe 7 and 6 doing all work and getting assaulted from every corner? What the heck other universes even doing? I want to see other universes in action, what the fuck.
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>>160516537
Super was original scheduled for 100 episodes, then they bumped it up to like 145-150.

And no, given that its still doing well, I dont expect it to be cut short like GT
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>>160516519
Lets all hope that the final arc is
>what if DBS was a good anime
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>>160514205
best boy
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>>160516614
Sorry lad
I am really missing on Shin art
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>>160516537
SBDH is literally running off of Super shit and what ifs
The anime will run for as long as it brings money
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>>160516383
I don't know who this mister crabs is but there is no way in hell that he could give birth to a whale daughter, it's impossible.
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>>160514777
Caulifla
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>>160516396

Freeza has 2 and Frost 1
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>>160516656
That is much better.
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>>160516586
Shit I forgot about the bunny and the other Prider Jobber
Weird that 18 is 3,5 while 17 is still 0
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>>160516735
>headcanon
what?
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Why is everyone in this tournament so garbage. There are no stakes, no sense of threat at all, U6 and U7 just body everyone without breaking a sweat, sometimes off-screen. What was the point of introducing several new universes if they are just going to job like that? Could've just made it the "Jiren Arc" where Jiren hunts Goku down for some perceived crimes against humanity or something like that, and barely anything would have changed.
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>>160516738
17 is holding back his power.
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>>160516744
>What was the point of introducing several new universes if they are just going to job like that?
see
>>160515502
>>160515797
>>160516519
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>>160516531
>calm mind and proper control
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>>160516604
I hope that someday we get an adaptation of the manga because the anime is just dreadful.
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>>160516796
Thats Jiren(Expanded Mind)
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It's because Kale got jealous of Caulifla talking to Cabba, and Caulifla told her not to get the wrong idea, that she'd never fall for someone like Cabba. So, her jealousy was framed in explicitly romantic terms. Vast majority of the fandom read it that way, including the Japanese fandom, and desu all the people trying to argue that wasn't what it was are sounding a lot like the people who tried to argue that Victor and Yuri weren't gay in Yuri On Ice. It was obvious from the beginning that they were, but people denied it up until they actually kissed.
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>>160516796
I can't help but imagine him powering up and screaming "AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"
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>>160516117
At this point if it gets any worse then super will approach gt level
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>>160516818
The Manga is worse, it ruins the Goku vs Hit fight, has a worse asspull to end the Black Arc, and is worse then the anime because, while the anime reuses shots a lot, the manga just outright traces DB.
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>>160514103
>10k
>1 video a month
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Why is Frieza so cute?
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>>160516519
speaking about digimon like franchises, what other shows were like digimon that weren't absolutely terrible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-n0hZ1G6_w
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>>160516885
>The Manga is worse
Sure Toei shill.
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>>160516885
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>Tien is last man from U7
>Knows he's just a lucky fucking jobber
>Realises they're about to time out
>Uses multiform so the Tiens outnumber everyone else
>U7 wins
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>>160516794
First two points are just conjecture, U6 and U7 have gimmick-users too.

The second point is valid I guess. So they just made this arc as one big joke, out of spite so Goku could punch the shit out of some magical girls and capeshitters?
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>>160516889
This shit pisses me off. every video states NON PROFIT. what a load. And it isn't even a video a month it's more like a video every 6 weeks.
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>>160516907
it's the lipstick and the smug
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>>160514476
What if goku already had a bad end and wished himself back in time from the end of the universe as himself before the tourney with the super dragonballs.
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>>160516885
Enjoy flanderised Goku, the Mary Sueper Saiyans and FRIENDSHIP
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>>160516907
*Caulifla
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>>160514103
>What went wrong?
They're jobbers in the wrestling sense, not the sense everyone here misuses it as. They're hyped up as a big threat, but in the end only serve as fodder to show how strong 17 and 18 have gotten. The problem is that U11 hasn't ever been shown to be a threat, we've only heard of it. It's the whole "show, don't tell" principle being ignored.

>>160514178
This too. It actually makes Jiren look like kind of a chump rather than the badass who destroyed the opponent who gave SSB Goku a run for his money.

Super has certainly gotten better with the ToP, but I'm still disappointed. The ideas are there, but everything could've been handled so much better. Like U11 not losing half their team in a single fucking episode.
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>>160516889
>it's been 4 months since the last episode of DBZ Abridged

You know, I managed to completely forget about these hack frauds until your post, anon. Thank you for ruining my day.
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hehehe
try trashing dragon ball threads for me now!
protip
you cant!
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>>160515062
I really like this pic
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>>160517038
every week
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>>160516969
>First two points are just conjecture
Its literally not even conjecture, they spent several episodes going over each universe's gimmicky plan to win, and then whet it all fails, the Grand Priest even points out the plans failed.

>So they just made this arc as one big joke
It's not really a joke, no more then fighting a big fat pink magical monster was in DBZ.

It just making a joke in the process like was typical of DB and DBZ
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>>160516885
I cant believe it.
Someone ACTUALLY fell for the memes
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>watching dbs
>literally the only time we had any tension was against zamasu
>this tournament is just a prank by zeno so he can have fun
>nothing actually gets erased, they are just going to live in the same universe
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>>160516885
>The Manga is worse, it ruins the Goku vs Hit fight, has a worse asspull to end the Black Arc, the manga just outright traces DB.
The manga does everything that the anime does but better, you don't know what tracing means.
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>>160515185

Zeno's body guards are not there to protect Zeno but to protect anyone that might get too close to him.

Look at what happened the last time some retarded ningen was able to interact with Zeno
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>>160517038
So if going SSB allows him to hold back very efficiently, and it doesn't waste stamina, why doesn't just stay SSB forever?
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If Zeno is so strong and can't die, why does he need bodyguards?
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>>160516995
Would explain why he's so casual about everything, even more so than usual.

>"This is my 4054th time-loop, haha that jobber will try to weigh me down again. I'll let him, it'll be fun."
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>>160516885
The manga actually did something interesting with Hit's strange mannerisms. Where in which Hit was strategically hiding his movements and his hands to avoid Goku seeing his tells. This also made Goku predicting Hits timeskip more believable since he was given a frame of reference for when Hit was going to use his time powers. Unlike the anime where Goku is omniscience or some shit. I mean there was still some my powerlevel>yours but it was still trying to add a strategic element to the fight which has me interested in Toyotaro's version of next tourney.

In the anime he fights with his hands in his pocket because of his generic imma look down on you personality. His shitty "improvement" made his fight boring and repetitive (the looped animation didn't help)
>Goku found a way to predict Hit's timeskip movements
>Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
>Goku used Kaioken to multiply his stats and become "faster than time"
>Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
Like some playground game of pretend. Boring as shit.

Also Goku predicting Hit's timeskip in the anime made no sense since Hit could actually stop time. So why would Goku predicting Hit help him any?

Where as in the manga Hit's timeskip is exactly as the name implies.
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>>160517041
People who put filters are so autistic.
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>>160516260
Would be based.
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>>160514442
>SS Grade 3
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>>160517055
This thread is filled with actual children. They fall easily for memes.
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>>160516483
>I also think GT was most consistent with powers, everyone except Goku were useless, but it made sense given the time skip

GT couldn't even stick with its own scaling though. Everyon was useless relation to Goku, but, for example, even Pan could get hits and damage Rildo, who was said to be on par with Majin Buu. She was weaker than base Trunks and yet could easily overpower Gero too.

And then you've got Uub going from being stronger than all half Saiyans even before fusing with Buu to being on SSJ Goten and Trunks' level by the time of the Super 17 arc (after his fusion with Buu). And somehow he's stated to be weaker than them when they're escaping from the final battle with Omega.
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>>160517100
I remember the 'hiding movements" thing being in the anime too,
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>we could've gotten a proper tournament arc like the DB ones or U6 one
>proper teams instead of mostly filler
>rivaling the DT arc from YYH
This should've been 4 universes only. That, or have smaller teams. The battle royale was a mistake.
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>>160517054
The only universe that had a gimmicky plan is U3. U9 and U4 kinda plotted outside the tournament. Others just had their top fighters showcased.

Also Tien, Roshi, Botamo and Magetta are all pretty gimmicky.
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>>160517093
Bodyguards are for fun and so they worship both Zenos
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>>160517149
It wasn't
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>>160516630

We don't know up to when it's running now. The initial 100 figure leaked due to Toei Europe messing up, and there has been no leaks since then.
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>>160517149
Not really, Toei isn't smart to do that. It was just Goku "predicting where he'd hit"
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>>160514694
>>160514775
>>160514785
>>160514874
Tick-tock, Jobiflafags.

Three weeks and your out. Episode 104 will be your last.
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>>160516648
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>>160517110
What's autistic about it? They're quick and easy to set up and it's totally worth it if it means I don't have to see autists shitposting their garbage again.
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>>160517072
>The manga does everything that the anime does but better
Except for several of the aforementioned points

Like, what make the Goku vs Hit fight good in the anime was that, even after ass pulling SSB + KKX10, Goku was still going to lose to Hit because he simply couldn't fucking hold it.

The anime showed that there are other fighters in the universe just as strong, if not stronger, then Goku and co, and makes the metaverse more interesting because of that.

In the manga, Hit is just objectively weaker then Goku, because Goku just HAS to be the biggest badass of all time, and no one from the other universes COULD EVER possibly even prove a difficult fight for him!

All it does is make everything more boring because there was no real challenge to the other unvierse, and gives a sense that all the other universes have literally no one as powerful as goku because the manga just has to suck Goku's dick ALL the time.
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>>160514930
I don't even take the show seriously and it's been an enjoyable ride for all it's ups and downs. GT was the same way.
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>>160517100
This, I really like Goku vs Hit in the manga, I just wish it was longer.
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>>160517149
No, anime-Hit did it because that's what cool kids does. That and become stronger because toei magic, like anime-Black.
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>>160516260
Why do people keep saying this? There'll be a massive drop in quality if it was weekly, don't you guys read any other manga at all
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>>160516728
>got 5 pics that has Shin in them
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>>160517226
If shitposts like that make you sperg out, then you don't belong here desu.
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>>160517230
The anime is currently managing to have the worst of both worlds: Goku constantly being downplayed and jobbing, and nothing being a real threat. Really wonder how Toyo is going to handle the ToP
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>>160517038
someone should draw post-training final form freeza defeating super saiyan gohan and piccolo

then someone should draw base goku defeating post-training freeza

then have a panel where base goku tanked a hakai from a god of destruction

then have goku getting crushed by that weight jobber

then have 18 casually lift the weight jobber and throw him

"t-thanks 18, but i was holding back"
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>>160516396
Bonus points for Hit covering his team's backs too
Not in the latest episode though, I dunno if he was off on a donut break or what
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>>160517183
>Toei isn't smart to do that
DELET
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>tfw less than a minute of screentime
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the fuju tv stream dident work when super aired. it sitll had a stream but super was missing. did they find out about our trick?
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>>160516117
GT, I watched GT a few times and it wasn't good but it wasn't as bad as people paint it, it was an average series.
I tried to watch Super it but it just killed any hype that I had since it was anounced to the point where I dropped it, I come occasionally to see if it's worth picking up again but each time it just confirms that I made the right choice in dropping it.
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>>160517336
It has to be like that 17 pic. Goku fighting literal gods and training with Whis while 18 babysits, goes shopping and ocassionally sparring with Krillin. Then she lifts Tupper and Goku goes "h-holding back haha"
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>>160517100
Also anime Hit made Toppo underwhelming as fuck. Anime Hit was apparently stronger than SSBx10 Kaioken, while Toppo who is a God of destruction candidate got fucking bodied by regular SSB. Why is the assassin who is limited by the rules way stronger than the God of destruction candidate?
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>U6 hasn't lost a single member
Universe of the fucking sue's.
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>>160517100
Timeskip in the manga makes no sense. Opponent's power level being stronger somehow disables it even though it's not about freezing the opponent but rather skipping a moment in time.
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>>160516117
Super, gt was fucking trash. Only thing cool was the aesthetics which can be salvaged by toyotardo if he can get ahead of the anime
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Is there a sexier bitch in all of dragonball?
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>>160517385
>5 characters previously introduced from U6
>focus on the new saiyan gurls
I hope they lose soon so that Hit and Frost get the spotlight.
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>>160517314
I've been in these threads since the start, and they've never been this trash before. No one is forced to stomach garbage because "lmao i want to belong". Some quick filters solves the problem.
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>>160517433
Neither Universe 2.
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>>160517323
I would disagree on both counts.

The other universes are being played exactly like U7 was, and exactly how they should be.

You have badass at the top

-Jiren in U11, as Frieza was in U7

-His badass second in command who is super powerful compared to everyone else in his universe, but still weak as fuck compared to the number 1(Ginyu/Toppo)

-The rest of his team which is also powerful compared to everyone else in the universe, but end up being fodder for the MC to work on(the rest of the Ginyu force/Zarbon/Dodoria)

Most of these guys shouldn't be actual threats to the MCs, there should be, at max, one or two per unvierse, but not more.
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U6 should be called the law universe cause it has too many cases of SUES
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>>160517230
>Like, what make the Goku vs Hit fight good in the anime was that, even after ass pulling SSB + KKX10, Goku was still going to lose to Hit because he simply couldn't fucking hold it.
And he couldn't do that anymore in the manga either. Remember, the whole point of holding onto using SSB in the manga is that it has an explosive initial burst of power that then gets smaller. That's why Goku attempts to finish the battle as soon as he goes Blue. If the battle had continued, Goku would be much weaker in the manga too (although Hit also had a stamina issue in the manga).
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>>160517314
>wah no one will see my shitposts and give me yous as i say job cuck, chad, and post wojaks.
imagine being this mad over an intended option of 4chan.
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>>160517433
I'm predicting that after Brianne jobs it'll be U6 versus U7.

I'm hoping that Goku is retarded enough to give Caulifla and Kale a senzu after asking the Grand Priest permission to bend the rules, that way it'll be "more fun"

Then we can have a fight like SSB Vegeta vs SSB-Vados-trained Cabba, and SS3 Caulifla vs Mystic Gohan.
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>>160517474
Universe 2 is going to lose a lot of members
Next episode or the one after that
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>>160517424
Hell I think anime Hit is stronger than Merged Zamasu which makes Zamasu taking Goku's body instead Hit really dumb.
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>>160517424
Goku had to go into SSB + KK to fight Toppo once Toppo actually started using his full power.

You also seem to forget that Goku got stronger as a result of the Black Arc, as shown when he beats Hit after Hit came after him, then struggles against Toppo later.

If you actually watched the whole show, they make it clear Hit is weaker then Toppo
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>>160517515
Yeah, if you have a problem with it, you have an issue.
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>>160517511
>anthropomorphic smut
MOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>160517463
Cus.
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>>160516168
>Saiyans are broken.

They aren't broken to anything but Humans. Aliens consistently make jokes out of their progress then only lose due to them getting complacent with their strength.

And even on the human side it's mostly their fault as humans don't take advantage of the stupid tech they can create which consists of Time Machines and Artificially Modified Humans that can go toe to fucking toe with a Super Saiyan Blue "fighting prodigy" Saiyan.
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>>160517549
>Then we can have a fight like SSB Vegeta vs SSB-Vados-trained Cabba, and SS3 Caulifla vs Mystic Gohan.
Would this redeem an otherwise shit arc?
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I love how Freiza stays in his base form and doesn't go Gold.

Unlike Goku and Vegeta who are spamming Super Saiyan Blue which makes them look utterly weak.
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>>160517424
This
Also this makes brings out another problem of the Super anime, that SSB is a fucking jobber form.
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>>160516889
>NON PROFIT
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>>160517603
He's only been eliminating jobbers so far, no need to try hard.
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>>160517549
I'm utterly disgusted. Not by your idea mind you, it could happen if they rationalise it and hold it outside the tournament, but because this has a 70% chance of happening in the next 10 episodes.
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>>160517577
The only issue here is you, the reason devs had to create filters in first place.
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>>160517025
Last one was in June
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>>160517463
her and Vados fusion

>All those deleted posts
W-what
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>>160517590
>canon scene
>smut
Nice try
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>>160517449
>opponent power level disabling a technique makes no sense
But that's what happened in both versions (only explained in the manga, though)
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>>160517658
Yeah, to appease autists like you who complain. You dare argue with dubs?
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>>160517575
>Goku had to go into SSB + KK to fight
No he didn't Goku rekt Toppo once he turned SSB. He only went SSB KK afterwards.

>You also seem to forget that Goku got stronger as a result of the Black Arc,
Source.

>as shown when he beats Hit after Hit came after him, then struggles against Toppo later.
That's just the inconsistent writing for you.
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>>160517610
>i wasnt
god damn i love you
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Threadly reminder that Gohan is the #1 DB character forever and always.

Anyone who doesn't agree that Gohan is the best, clearly hasn't seen a SINGLE episode of the DBZ anime, or read a single volume of the Dragon Ball Manga.

Gohan has consistently been the strongest of all characters, he just has been laying low in Super, so the misinformed may be swayed to believe in anyone other than him as the best/strongest character.
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>>160517602
At this point, whatever you do, there is literally no redeeming this arc, or series, it's over.

The dream is over.

The dream is fucking over.

I waited 100 episode with hope in my heart for this.

I cannot.

I just cannot.

I fucking aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>160517636
SS3 Caulifla versus Mystic Gohan would be great.

The memes would sustain /a/ for years.
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How bad is the current arc?

Too much shit going on
Characters getting 20 seconds screen time max
Goku being a tard as always
Vegeta about to job to a tumblr feminist
Gohan sat in the corner praying no one hits him
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>>160514967
Yay. I love Kale SS.
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>>160517686
>You dare argue with dubs?
Nice argument, cancer.
>>>/b/
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>>160517718
Seek mental help.
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>>160517729
>Too much shit going on
No, literally nothing happens each episode
Every fucking character that isn't a Saiyan or from U6 or U7 has the exact fucking same personality and relevance
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>>160517682
Actually its explained in the anime.

KK increases all of Goku's attributes, from strength to speed.

We always forget because the show always slows everything down for us to see, but Goku and the other fighters passed the level of moving so fast no one can see them back in fucking Dragon Ball.

These guys are already moving so fast they are effectively invisible, KK just makes him move so fast he starts fucking with TIME.

Since speed and time are connected
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>>160517718
Z was on the Android saga by episode 100.

Jeez. Saiyan, Namek and Frieza sagas were so great. We've had nothing at all similar from Super at all.
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>>160517098
Holy fuck what if this is true about JIREN
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>>160517740
>those finger.
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>>160516738
Counting frags is not CHIMUWORKU, anon.
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>>160517100
In the manga time skip is just time stop.

In the anime it's literally skipping a moment in time.
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>>160517575
>You also seem to forget that Goku got stronger as a result of the Black Arc
So was this ignored? If current SSB Goku is stronger than SSBx10 Kaioken in the Champa arc how the fuck is Freeza fighting on par with him? It also makes 17 power up even dumber.
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>>160517098
This twist would redeem about 96% percent of super.
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>>160517783
These tournament arcs are getting real boring real fast.
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>>160517690
>Source.
The anime, Goku even mentions when he and Frieza punch each other right before the tournament starts that hes been getting stronger from fighting guys from other universes, aka shits like Hit, Zamasu, and Toppo.

This is how dragon ball has always worked, they always get stronger after every fight

>That's just the inconsistent writing for you.
More like that's just you ignoring the fact he got stronger.
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4 and 9 are scheming and improvised universe...sort of tactic theme(4 having it,9 not having it?).
I remember some used a better term for ninth but i don't remember it.
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>>160517822
You have that backwards anon.
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>>160516538
The manga has its problems but at least Goku is somewhat competent.
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>>160517824
Freeza is much stronger than Goku now

He got rekt earlier by him, Beerus had to bail Goku out.
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>>160517778
>Goku just became faster than time
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>>160517797
>first time loop he defeated everyone instantly
>bad shit happened
>he discovered that allowing Kale to transform increases the chances of survival
>attacks her from each loop onwards to let her survive, tries to send the troops after her in an attempt to get her to control her power
>she finally unlocks control over her power
>"good, now to do the same to that son goku fellow"
>tfw longhaul
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>>160517904
>GOku interupting fusion
M-MASAKA
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>>160514912
Isn't the Yardrat out already?
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>>160516206
Best post
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>>160517230
>Like, what make the Goku vs Hit fight good in the anime was that
That fight wasn't good, anon, there wasn't a single good fight in the anime and I don't understand why you keep on talking about Hit, Hit this Hit that, he's a terrible forced and bland character, his design is awful and his personality is bland almost non existent.
I understand that you want to see new challengers that can keep the franchise going but we're not going to get that from the likes of Hit and Jiren, it's all up to Toriyama to come up with something half decent but so far all we got are these shitty uninteresting characters like Hit that are just nothing but a set up to something else.
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>>160517895
No, in the manga it's literally described as stopping time for everyone except Hit. And it doesn't work on Goku because Hit can't "stop" someone who's stronger than him.
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>>160516818
Me too. I'm pretty happy with how things played out in the manga FT arc
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>>160517824
God the writing in the anime is trash.
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>>160517824
>So was this ignored? If current SSB Goku is stronger than SSBx10 Kaioken in the Champa arc
Its more like SSB Goku using whatever KK multiplier he is using when he goes KK now, since he knows he cant go X10 anymore, is stronger then SSB

>how the fuck is Freeza fighting on par with him?
Rewatch the Resurrection of F arc, Golden Frieza was ALWAYS stronger then SSB, he beat Goku's ass, and only lost because he had gone to earth before he learned how to prevent the stamina drain from the Golden form.

As mentioned when Frieza comes back, he spent all his time in hell after Goku killed him meditating on how to control his power.

Frieza was always this strong in his gold form, he just lost because he was too arrogant back in the RoF arc to learn how to control it.
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>>160517824
>If current SSB Goku is stronger than SSBx10 Kaioken in the Champa arc
And he still isn't Beerus level? Wasn't Beerus worried by SSBx10 Kaioken?
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>>160516206
The word you are looking for is Deicide.
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>>160517824
This literally goes against everything Saiyans are supposed to be about. It's ridiculous.

I definitely think this is either a red herring or will be retconned real damn soon.

They can't keep introducing people so much more powerful than Goku and keep him at his limit. Either that or he'll reach some new form that is dozens of times more powerful than SSB.
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>>160517098
>time loops
stop this
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>>160517904
Everyone is competent in the manga. Even Jobgeta did a good job creating a strategy to become a more efficient SSGSS and defeat Black, while anime-Vegeta just went really angry
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>>160517912

He actually does.

He moved when Hit froze time.
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>>160518054
>a literal jew gets killed
Is Toyo secretly a /pol/ack?
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Reminder that SSB has been a jobber form for all of Super.

>m-muh Freeza
SSB was weaker than Golden Freeza and he only lost because of his stamina drain.

>m-muh Hit
SSB was weaker than Hit in the anime and it took SSBKK to even it out. The manga doesn't count because Hit was just another jobber. But FINE, if you're so absolutely desperate that you want to count the manga and ignore the anime, congratulations, you finally got 1 win in the SSB department. Good luck finding another.

>m-muh Zamasu
SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta both got bodied by Zamasu in the manga and anime. Any "winning" they did were immediately offset by the jobbing that happened directly after their 5 seconds of glory. Try again, SSBfags.

>m-muh SSB Vegeta that got taken by that mystic water filler
We didn't see the full fight, and evil-water-SSB-Vegeta jobbed anyway.

>m-muh Krillin and Gohan fight
Yes, congratulations, SSB is superior to Jobhan and Cucklin. What an accomplishment.

>m-m-muh Android 17!!!
SSB Goku didn't beat 17, and 17 himself also admitted that he was holding back. In fact, Goku was so weak compared to 17 that he was actually forced into using SSB. 17 would've probably whopped Goku's blue ass all over his animal park if they fought.

>m-m-m-m-muh legendary super saiyan kale
SSB Goku got completely wrecked, demolished, and bodied by /WORSTgirl/ "autist of the year" Kale.

Well? I'm still waiting for some proof that SSB is actually strong or useful, SSBfags.
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>Frieza is the last standing
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>>160514529
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>>160516117
Super, depressingly.

GT is just too boring. Super has a lotta issues but its not boring me.
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>>160518108
Once again my pasta is used.

I should get a trip when I post new pasta from now on.
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>>160518101
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>>160514103
Easier to pimp out the shitty new saiyajins and throw a bunch of the troopers and universes under the bus with terrible fights.
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>>160517963
>to put it simply
You seem to be ignoring this, Also that line is also in the anime as well. >>160517100 Here it clearly states that Hit can't change his movement during timeskip also he's never seen attacking someone during timeskip like in the anime.
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>>160516117
Right now, Super, but mostly only because I haven't seen it before. After it finishes I'll toss it in the same 'never rewatch' shit pile GT is currently residing.
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>>160517778
If Goku was faster than time, Hit being able to stop him by just increasing the length of the skip makes no sense.
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>>160517966
Yeah, it was way more interesting than the anime.
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>>160518211
>Super would make no sense if that was true!
Anon, I...
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>>160517038

I can accept that base Goku is stil weaker than a post-training android that was stronger than a super saiyan to begin with, desu
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>>160517870
But Goku also fight Hit before the tournament and the exhibition fights, they hinted that both were equally strong, meanwhile Goku kicked Toppo ass with base ssb, but he stated that wasn't using all his power and even resisted a Kamehameha that seemed to be more powerful than the one Goku used against Kale.

I don't know who is stronger, but I think both are great fighters and two of the most powerful in this tournament.
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>>160517963
The only way Hit's ability makes any sense. Based Toyo.
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Every one of you are retards arguing semantics.
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>>160514209
>>160514476
>>160516995
>>160517098
>>160517927
tfw all this is probably cooler than what we're gonna get
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>>160518011
>Its more like SSB Goku using whatever KK multiplier he is using when he goes KK now,
What?

>Golden Frieza was ALWAYS stronger then SSB
Yeah he wasn't ten times stronger, the difference was barely notably.
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>>160518045
>>160517824
People shouldn't take that comment too seriously.

Vegeta said what he said ebcuase he was working on the assumption that they have reached god form, and thus, can't get much stronger.

But Vegeta isn't some mystic badass with 4th wall breaking powers to see how shit actually is.

There was a time when people thought SS1 was the highest, there was a time people though Ss2 was the highest, there was a time where people thought SS3 was the highest, there was time when people thought SSG was the highest, and now Vegeta thinks SSB is the highest.

People need to stop taking what characters say as if it was some word of god fact, its their perceptions, and perceptions are often wrong.

Just as we saw these last two episodes, where Vegeta say Kale's SS form, which is stronger then Blue, and even caused Vegeta to suspect its the Sayains true final form
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>>160518265
>base Goku defeated post-training final form Freeza
>base Goku tanked a hakai
hmmm
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>>160517659
oh so they just don't post them on youtube at all anymore, gotcha
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Is this the worst arc of Super?
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>>160518342
Yes.
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>>160517935
Nope!
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>>160518342
Frieza Resurrection was bad
Zamasu's ending pretty bad in anime
this one is fluctuating up and down
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>>160518342
No.
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>>160518184

https://youtu.be/gHs28RK__mU

Goku fucking states his level is far above the Time leap
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>>160514103
I-is she going to be O.K.?
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>>160518104
>zamasu killed a jew
I was going to post that.
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>>160518194
It if worked as it's supposed to, Goku's power level should have no effect since it's not about freezing the opponent, just the user skipping time.
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>>160514172
You best fight now before I remove you from the ring
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>>160518386
MY SPECIAL ATTACK IS RUINING CLOTHES
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>>160517463
Pan
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>>160518342
they haven't time traveled 6 times yet.
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>>160517824
god shimanuki was such trash back then
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>>160518429
>Goku's power level should have no effect
>I haven't read DB before.
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>>160514476
It isn't Goku's master plan. It was Jiren's plan all along.

Jiren and Goku fight and are destined to be the last remaining 2 members, so they quickly convince Whis, who is a good angel, to make the wish to send Goku and Jiren back through time in a loop until the crisis they're facing is averted.

Whis agrees, Beerus and Champa sacrifice themselves to stall Zeno and the Grand Priest, and the wish is made.

Goku and Jiren both get sent through time, know what will happen, and have to make special moves to prepare for the outcome. Sometimes, Freeza is caught up in the loop, which is why he's so dead-set on overthrowing the gods—but mainly, it's Goku and Jiren who are making behind-the-scenes moves in an attempt to save the multiverse.

Screencap this post.
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>>160518416
THAT'S NOT HOW TIME WORKS
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>>160518437
get out
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>>160518324
>Yeah he wasn't ten times stronger, the difference was barely notably.

It was certainly noticeable, even more so in anime with Goku literally being rendered helpless by him. I'd advise you to rewatch that shitty fight but I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

I agree that it's silly to think he was ten times stronger but considering how Hit remained in fighting shape after having received a beatdown by someone ten times stronger, I think we can conclude there is no logic in DBS.
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>>160518342
Yes.
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>>160518324
>What?
What I meant to say was that Goku using SSB + KKx? during the Toppo fight is stronger then Goku using SSB + KKx10 during the Hit fight back in the U6 vs U7 tournament arc because he got stronger from fighting Black
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>>160518416
>still no "Goku is faster than time" line
OK dude, last (You)
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>>160518480
>no argument
Explain how Goku's power level affects Hit leaping time. It's as stupid as something like Black's power level preventing Trunks from travelling to the past.
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>>160518437
Delicious.
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>>160517488
I dun get it.

Then again U6 is just U7 but less of a shithole so people developed in more obnoxiously overpowered ways. Except Frost; he's just a normalfag of Freeza's species who worked hard enough to be better than untrained Namek Freeza.
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Did anyone else enjoy the recruitment episodes more than the actual tournament? They unironically had better characterization and action. Gohan vs. Piccolo, Gohan vs. Goku, Goku vs. Krillin and 17, Frieza's transformation are some of the best scenes in the entire show thay blow everything in the ToP so far out of the water.
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>>160518437
>pass user
>pedo
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>>160518342
Nowhere near.
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>>160518104
>>160518421
Is that a motherfucking SS reference!?
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Have we reached berserk tier animation?
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>>160518551
>It was certainly noticeable
No it wasn't they were pretty much even. Also if he was ten times stronger the stamina issues shouldn't been a problem considering that different in strength and the fact that SSB also have stamina issues.
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>>160518569
>time machine = someone's technique
Nice headcanon bro
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>>160518688
no
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>>160518325
Yes, that's what I think.

Vegeta once believed he became a Super Saiyan just because his power level topped 500,000.

Super Saiyan was once said to be a once in a millennium thing as well.

Plus they can always get stronger in base form by training, which then increases their SSJ/SSB multiplied power.

Also wasn't that just before they went and trained to fight Zamasu and Black, during which Vegeta showed he'd become a lot stronger?
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>>160518697
>still no explanation
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>>160518566
>during the Toppo fight is stronger then Goku using SSB + KKx10 during the Hit fight back in the U6 vs U7 tournament arc because he got stronger from fighting Black

Yeah but if the rematch between is to be believed then SSB by itself should be stronger than SSB KKx10.
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>>160516117
GT, at least all of they're Arc's were good, Super has gotten ridiculous now
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>>160514531
What?
Waste all of our fucking time by desperately making those shitters speed run through all of the most memorable events goku gohan and vegeta have done in a desperate attempt to sell them to the audience who's STILL not digging them?

Good job!

of course no one would rather see an interesting battle or this strategery that doesn't rely on strenght and muh ebul powah lebuls.
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>>160518568

>Hit shows how he Freezes time
>Jaco and the King states he Freezes time.
>Moments later
>Goku uses Kaioken X10
>Punches Hit
>Piccolo states he's super fast
>Hit Freezes time
>Goku moves in the time leap
>Hit notices this
>Goku punches Hit again
>"It's useless. I'm far ahead your time leap".

>HURR DURR HE'S NOT FASTER THAN TIME.

Are toyocucks this retarded?
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>>160518342
The recap arcs were worse.

Aside from that, yeah it's pretty bad.

Plot meanders and we have "holding back" every single episode, unless it's against jobbers like the TrioDogs who they've already beaten.
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>>160518787
> in a desperate attempt to sell them to the audience who's STILL not digging them?
Most people outside of /a/ seem to like them.
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>>160518601
Kind of. 17's 2nd episode was trash, and Tenshinhan was shafted really badly. but, yeah, what these episodes need is something like the characterization and development shown in the Gohan and Kuririn episodes, during the battles themselves. I guess Caulifla and Kale got a moment this episode, but none of the established cast has gotten any moment like that so far.
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>>160518764
>prove my headcanon isn't a thing
HAHAHAHAHAHA OK sweetie you can rest now
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>>160518823
Yeah, he's pretty retarded Anon. You won a long time ago.
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>>160518386
Anon... that shows him cheering from the stands...
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>>160518569
>Explain how Goku's power level affects Hit leaping time
Go back and read DB power has always negated haxs. It pretty much the reason why Dragon Balls can't effect anyone stronger than their creator without permission.
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>>160517054
>literally not conjecture
It literally is conjecture. You being sure of it doesn't change that.
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>>160518759
>Also wasn't that just before they went and trained to fight Zamasu and Black, during which Vegeta showed he'd become a lot stronger?
That was before the U6 tournament.
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>>160518902
>It literally is conjecture
>something outright stated in the anime is conjecture
what?
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>>160518823
See >>160518568
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>>160518601
naw those were dogshit and developed no one but 17 and Gohan. 17 has become Nothen Perssonell: The Character so it was bad development. The episodes were largely a waste of time that should have went to developing the other universes.
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who will Jiren job to?
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>last fight it's not Geran vs Goku, but Hit vs Goku rematch

What do would you think?
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Kale actually makes me want to see U6 get erased.

And I never thought I'd say that.
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>>160518940
See >>160518870
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>>160518601
Some of them were good, others were pretty bad.

But so far all the tournament episodes barring 98 have been bad, so yeah I enjoyed them more overall.
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>>160518869
So you lcannot explain how it makes any sense. Gotcha.
>>160518898
Time-leap isn't a technique that affects the opponent. It affects the user.
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>>160518968
Goku or Frieza.
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>>160518979
I see, so no line yet? What a shame, it was a nice headcanon.
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>>160517715
You mean Grandpa Gohan surely?
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>>160515858
Yes, its weekly.
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>>160519009
>Time-leap isn't a technique that affects the opponent.
Except that's wrong.
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>>160518911
Which was before Black, so Vegeta proved himself wrong in the next arc.
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>>160514967
Yay

>>160515023
Nay
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new thread

>>160492614
>>160492614
>>160492614
>>160492614
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Who would win in a fight?

>Manga Goku,could destroy everything (Hakai)

>Anime Goku, faster than Time and probably stronger than Gravity.
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>>160518873
You can clearly see the rocks behind so they are still in the fight, IMO, this is during the transformation of Brianne.
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>>160519077
>already archived
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>>160519009
Rule #1 of DB is that any technique can be overcome with enough of a power gap between the fighters, even if it doesn't make sense.
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>>160519033
Not him but you're being a major dumbass, Anon. He won. You lost. You've got nothing.
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>>160515858
its cherry pick.
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>>160519091
4-D Goku fused with the audience
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>>160519033

So I guess Caulifla Is stronger than Goku, because they never said "Goku Is stronger than Caulifla".
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>Goku couldn't do shit to the weight guy
>18 just picks him up and chucks him out of the ring
Do you think base Goku is still weaker than Namek Frieza? It seems the writers have retconned that whole Base= SSG think a while ago.
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>>160519091
Anime Goku, SSB in the manga is a doubled edged sword.
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New thread:
>>160514103
>>160514103
>>160514103
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>>160518968
Nobody... Jiren is the "villain" of the arc, he will not even job against Goku new transformation.
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How butthurt will Gohanfags be if Kale knocks him out because Goku spared her and Caulifla?

Also just had a weird captcha with Asshime and Eldorito in the middle
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>>160519143
how is this good?
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>>160518601
I didn't enjoy any of that goddamned garbage.
All of the characterization was fucking stupid beyond belief
Gohan vs Goku was absolute ear rape and was just poorly choreographed

Tien vs Roshi was a goddamned embarassment.

Tien vs Piccolo was even fucking worse.

I don't even have to mention how poor 17 vs Goku was.


And the "tournament" or random assholes drawn by espescially untalented 8 year olds being mashed against each other for 22 minutes interspersed with 2 eps of the u6 saiyajins eating up space has been a fucking disaster.

This entire fucking time should have been them and the other universes training and having adventures WHILE training.
Would have built up the actual tournament later and been fun little side stories to watch.

What I wouldn't fucking give for one of those mysterious cloaked figures to be a human who's well above SSJB tier and for hit to be a namekian.
To see a story about one of the robots from the robot universe being in a casshern type world where they have to fight off evil robots or a gao gai gar rip fighing against a unicron type deal.
ANYTHING but the boring trash that we've gotten.
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>>160516117
GT, the Baby arc alone is better than anything I've seen in Super so far.
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I can't believe that in all 11 universes there aren't fighters that have any ability that would allow them to auto-win. Like a ghost that can't be touched or something.

Botamo is probably the closest one with his dimension phase but that's it.
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Would Kale go full roid rage if someone simply held Caulifla's hand?
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>>160519057
Nope. The way it works is Hit skips a moment in time; like travelling with a time machine except the duration is very short.

However Toyo despite explaining this, made up nonsense about "freezing" the opponent.
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>>160519203
fuck off retard.
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>>160519158
There's no consistency. In the team sparring match, Piccolo (the same Piccolo that kept up with SSJ2 Gohan in the training episodes) charged a blast for minutes and it only managed to push back Base Goku, doing no real damage.
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>>160518221
The character interactions were better too. They felt kinda unnatural in the anime so it was great to see everyone acting more like themselves in the manga. Also love Toyo for having Kid Trunks and Future Trunks treat each other as brothers and Future Mai talking with the Pilaf gang
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>>160516338
True. Everyone gives a pass to fanfiction if it's rebranded Super, it's ridiculous.
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>>160519241
There was one. Buu.
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>>160519203
Its not shaky screen 90% of the time, no reused animated from a previous episode or the current one, and SOME choreography
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I'm so hyped for next month's manga chapter
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>>160519241
Hey remember when Goku lifted a pyramid in base form as light training whilst recovering from near-fatal injuries right after the Saiyan saga?

Wonder how much that office block weighs...
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>>160519266
>Nope
>ignoring what was stated in the manga
Welp no point in arguing with you anymore.
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>>160519323
Buu could still be thrown out, same as anyone else.
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>>160519091
Manga Goku. Anime Goku will hold back to the point he gets the shit beaten out of him.
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>>160519323
Buu could easily get ringed out.
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>>160514103
Damn that bitch is stacked
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>>160519343
It probably has some neutron star reactor made by Bulma or something in it.
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>>160519009
>so you can not explain why my headcanon is wrong
Give up, Pedro
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>>160517783
>Saiyan, Namek and Frieza sagas were so great

Is this bait or do you just have shit taste?
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>>160514103
The Pride Troopers didn't realize that they weren't the heroes of this show. So no plot armor to save them.
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>>160516889
They're gonna get BTFO by Toei
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>>160519154
So I guess Goku is stronger than Caulifla, because they never said "Caulifla is stronger than Goku".
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>>160519343
Remember when the ring was made out of the hardest substance of all the universes?
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>>160519203
Don't you know good animation is determined by how many frames it has and how fast it is? Sasuga, anon.
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They should have brought back Black.

It would have been fun to see Black and Goku team up against Jiren. Their combo attacks would be insane.
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>>160519349
It's Toyo who ignored his own statements about the time-skip.
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>>160519419
No, I like the Saiyan, Namek and Frieza sagas, so I have great taste.
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>>160519446
He was really heavy at the moment.
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>>160519446
Remember when the tournament was about the strongest fighters of all the universes?
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>>160519091
Manga Goku because he's actually Goku
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>>160519446
Remember when being a Super Saiyan honestly meant something
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>>160519541
>>160519541
>>160519541
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>>160519446
It's actually made of Toeium, a substance that's exactly as hard as the plot demands
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>>160519091
Manga Goku. Anime Goku would forget the senzu.
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>>160519536
Remember when GoDs had trouble breaking it?
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>>160519513
>timeskip doesn't work on stronger opponents
>goku is in base and is thus weaker then Hit
your point?
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>>160519446
Y-yeah but he was REALLY heavy at that point, so heavy that 18 picked him up like a pebble and lobbed him halfway across the arena.

When he immobilised Goku that was just holding back, of course.
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>>160519338
I really wonder, are they gonna skip the exhibition or do the Danger Triangle Fight in 2 chapters then Toppo
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>>160519513

Are you actually fucking retarded? Do you understand reference frames? From Hit's point of view, he's freezing time for everyone else. For everyone else it looks like Hit is skipping ahead. This is like high school level physics for fucks sake.
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>>160519531
How heavy?
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Toei is trying such an obvious tactic. They make Blue less impressive, and they're making Goku job just to hype up his new form and then suddenly make him all powerful and capable. Goku is fucking jobbing to hype himself up, can you fucking believe it?
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>>160519115
It really depends on the power gap between the user and the technique used.

A simple ki blast would floor an equally powered person if it hits them.

A simply ki blast would be like a harmless splash of water to someone who's on a higher playing field.

A kienzan used by krillian could slice down anyone who's below SSJ3 Goku level. But once they get to that point the kienzan can be easily dodged or the thrower destroyed.
Or they could get a ki attack used to stop it.
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>>160519745
He wasn't holding back his weight.
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>>160519603
The page shows the proper way the timeskip works. Hit jumps 0.1 seconds in time, which mean he disappears and appears after 0.1 seconds. He doesn't "freeze" time for anyone. During the 0.1 seconds Goku predicts where he will end up and punches there, so when Hit appears he gets struck.

Later Toyo ignores this and acts as if it's time freeze.
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>>160519618
Yeah, that a-also counts for him dropping his guard
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I don't know I people are disappointed with Super when's obviously that that Toie is holding back
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>>160519618
it's pretty obvious that he was increasing his weight as he was going flying towards the edge in an effort to stay on. I swear you people are retarded.
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>>160519871
*Toei*
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>>160519621
I think the exhibition match was filler along with everything else that happened before the tournament except maybe the stuff with Freeza and 17 (minus the alien attack). Toyotaro said he was gonna get ahead of the anime during the summer so yeah I think I'm right
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>>160519517
Namek is pretty much worse than GT, it's filled to the brim with filler, Frieza suffers from that too but at least has the fight with frieza vs goku. Not to mention Zamasu is pretty much the best arc in the franchise along with Android/Cell.
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>>160517729
>Brianne's fusion seems stronger than SSB
>Vegeta on the ropes, getting pummeled and thrashed all around the arena
>Manages to survive, bloodied and battered, but still alive and in-bounds
>Even Goku is surprised at how strong Brianne is
>She approaches Vegeta with a smug, overweight look, as if she stole the last cookie for a midnight snack
>"You've lasted the longest of anyone against me. Any last words? Let's end this, Bejita-kun"
>"Last words? Yeah... Time's up."
>"What—"
>Fusion ends
>Vegeta smirks, and points to himself with a thumb and begins to laugh
>"Fool! The more power you use the less time you have in a fusion."
>"W-What?"
>SSB Vegeta zooms in and dropkicks them all off the arena without breaking a sweat
>All of the battle damage disappears because Toei forgot about it
>"By the way, you never stood a chance. I was still holding back."
MAGICAL GIRL FAGS BTFO
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>>160519907
Ah yes, with no explanation or reason to believe that you just accept it as fact because it's what you think is true.

And that makes other people retarded.
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>>160519955
The filler is awful, but it's made up for imo with the emergence of Vegeta as an anti-hero, Zarbon, Dodoria, and the Ginyu force fights and Gohan coming into his own.

All GT really has is SS4.
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>>160520052
>no explanation
not everything needs an explanation, particularly obvious things that 11 year olds can understand but apparently not adult manchildren such as yourself.
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>>160517824
No, it wasn't. Your pic related is a reference to the fact that their respective strengths in BASE (which get multiplied when they enter any super saiyan form) are not going to get much higher than what they have right then. The age of massive power increases for them in their base form was back in Namek when they still had zenkai abuse on their side, which by the time of the Buu saga had explicitly petered out - when Dende heals Gohan in his match against Buutenks and it is clearly noted that while he did get back to full strength, he didn't get any stronger. In fact from perfect Cell up until Black the zenkais aren't brought up anymore.

Why is this relevant? Because of Beerus' observation in BoG that Goku couldnt possiby defeat (untrained) Freeza if he were not to go SS1, meaning the intensive training Goku underwent on the interlude between Cell and Buu sagas, while contributing a lot by unlocking SS2 and 3, didn't increase his base strength that much. That's how saiyans power up these days: not the Oozaru not seen since the saiyan saga, nor the zenkais in Namek: but through the new super saiyan transformations following Freeza's defeat.

That continues true to hold in Super where Goku and Vegeta unlock SSG, SSB. There was a time however where Toriyama developed the Saiyan Beyond God (basically Goku absorbing SSG into his base to fight Freeza), only explained clearly in the promotional manga made for the film. Both the film proper and Super used it as is without bothering to explain; in all three Goku then goes directly to SSB to match Golden Freeza. In both Super continuities this plot point would end up being dropped however; the manga was much more clear at this by having Goku transform into SSG even long after BoG; meanwhile the anime shows more than once that base Goku is not as strong as his SS1/2/3; the clearest examples being his SS2(3 in the manga) matching Trunks SS2, and Zamasu noting how much more powerful he becomes when he goes SS2.
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>>160520181
>completely ambiguous, he could have increased, decreased, or maintained his weight, no indication is given whatsoever
>"*I* think it was obviously what I believe in my head, so everyone else must be stupid!"

Maybe once you're 12 you'll realise you don't understand things quite as well as you seem to believe.
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>>160520339
>he could have increased, decreased, or maintained his weight, no indication is given whatsoever
>thinking a guy who can increase his weight wouldn't do so as he's being sent flying towards the fucking edge
>just so happens the edge breaks from his weight
you are retarded. use your brain for once you animal.
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>>160520433
Or
OR

He could have been that heavy the whole time
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>>160516519
>, Sailor Moon(U2),
It's Precure, not Sailor Moon.
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>>160516925
Medarot and Monster Ranchers
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>>160517563
Anime Zamasu was fixed on Goku because they actually fought.

If anything, it's manga Zamasu who should have gotten Monaka's body, as he was the (apparently) strongest mortal in the two universes- I think Toyotaro actually made a one-page gag about it?
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>>160519143
To be fair, though this fight looks good in terms of how the characters don't go off-model, the choreography is almost complete horseshit. The way Vegito goes from kicking Zamasu on his left to grabbing him from the same side looks so awkward. That and whoever decided to make half-corrupted purple goo Zamasu should be fucking fired. It only made the choreography look worse when you had Vegito fighting that ugly lop-sided thing. That single giant arm of his must have made it horribly difficult to make a good looking fight at all. Fused Zamasu as a final form looked fine, and then they fucking ruined it in the anime. Pic related.
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>>160518969
This would be the shittiest of ending for this tournament.
We already had enought Hit.
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>>160518011
>As mentioned when Frieza comes back, he spent all his time in hell after Goku killed him meditating on how to control his power.
AND he's dead now, which means lower stamina drain, like with Super Saiyan 3
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>>160518108
>Yes, congratulations, SSB is superior to Jobhan and Cucklin. What an accomplishment.
It still took Kaiohken to down Gohan, though.
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>>160518115
Next week, anon. Next week.
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>>160519513
This is how Hit's time-skip works: (H)IT JUST WORKS
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Do people seriously think Vegeta is going to lose to that green slut? He's probably going to beat her so badly she turns into a cockwhore.
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>>160520192
>but through the new super saiyan transformations following Freeza's defeat.
new transformation and mastery of said transformations. Just improving the Ki management results in greatly improved fighting ability.
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