You know what modern anime is missing? Lots of little lines drawn

And noses.

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>>160509482
You know what modern anime is missing? Simple but memorable animator friendly character designs.

modern anime is missing quality animation

nowadays we only get cheap shit. the market has shifted to making advertisements for LNs or Manga. Nobody actually buys the BDs because they are a quality product anymore. They only want the tickets or codes that come with them.

>>160509714
Actually anon its the quality of the stories that is the issue not the quality of the animation. Look at Kemono Friends, it sold like hotcakes despite looking like garbage because it had an engaging, affecting, genuine and sincere story and characters people loved.

If anything the problem with modern anime is it focuses too much on animation quality and not enough on captivating stories. Most people don't really care much about animation as long as the drawings aren't noticeably bad.

>>160509714
Really now? Anime as a whole looks better than in the 2000s.

>>160510545
Actually the average quality of writing has improved over the past 40 years.

>>160509482
They're missing Satoshi Kon.

>>160510545
>because it had an engaging, affecting, genuine and sincere story and characters people loved.
I watched it but you sound like a brony faggot.
It was nice but nowhere near as good as fans make it out to be

>>160510545
I liked KemoFure because of the animation, though.

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>>160510545
maybe, just maybe if you would watch something other than the generic cute girls doing cute stuff etc shit, you would find animes with good story n shit.

>>160510708
You sound like a mental midget.

>>160510864
>animes
I never said they didn't exist.

>>160510864
>animes

>>160510545
Goddammit, why are furry faggots so deluded?

>>160509482
You know, that's just Mikimoto's artstyle.

>>160509482
I unironically believe this

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>>160510545
But if it had good animation..
Oh what could have been.

>>160509482
I liss shading and detail. Why is modern anime allergic to those two things? It's all sanitized to the maximum.

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>>160511071
Wait why do you think it sold well? What do you think people saw in it that they liked? A story and characters they loved? People certainly weren't there for the animation or the fanservice because those were both very poor offerings.

I mean it wasn't just a little popular it literally dwarfed the biggest box office hit of the year in Japan in popularity online.

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>>160509482
Those lines are just indicating blush/flush.

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>>160511232
>sales ≠ good
Kemono is trash.

>>160510545
Kemono Friends fans completely overblow the quality of the show.

>>160511200
Is this the famed 'serval dance'?

>>160511358
Speaking of overrated
>>160511347

>>160511347
I never said anything about sales and quality. I was asking what you think people saw in it. Why do you think people liked it. It isn't an objective question. It is putting yourself in someone elses shoes and imagining what made them thinking it was a good idea to spend their time and money on something. When you do that you can only be left with a couple of sane choices, the story and the characters.

>>160511232
>muh sales
This is all your argument amounts too. Might as well argue the Big Three shounen being the best manga of recent decades.

>>160511416
Ping Pong is legitimately a great series though.

>>160511453
^:)

>>160511440
You are entirely missing the point with your simplistic thinking. People generally don't fall in love with something and spend their money on it because they think its garbage.

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>>160509482

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>>160511488
It is though, I'm not wrong.

>>160509482
>>160511558
Coincidence that it's both Mikimoto ? I think not. OP is just retarded.

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>>160509568

>>160511558
So stoked for season 2. Hopefully she gets lots of rice in her belly.

as times progresses japan is losing touch of its great perception of subtle audio and graphical detail

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>>160509714

I HATE PEOPLE THAT PUT SPACES BEFORE THEIR ?s SO MUCH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Dragon dentist had that

>>160511671
What did he mean by this ?

>>160511200
That's a lewd Serval
>>160510708
It was another experience watching it ongoing, because no one expected anything from KF, but it turned out unusual and way better than the visuals could have suggested. Hence the love. Of course, while it's very well made, its quality is nowhere proportional to the fandom size. But any fandom is retarded, so there's that. At least KF doujins will be better than boatsluts doujins.

>>160511565
This anon speaks the truth

>>160511904
Why'd you do that, now it looks like I'm samefagging.

>>160511665
Is he ok?

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>>160511200
>But if it had good animation..
I wouldn't have watched it.

>>160511923
I'm not though

>>160511974
I honestly loved the animation in Tesagure

>>160512007
Stop

>>160512039
No you

>>160511665
s2 never ;_;

>>160511845
>Of course, while it's very well made, its quality is nowhere proportional to the fandom size.
When has it ever been the case? Kemono Friends is far too small in size for its quality.

>>160511200
>mmd has better animationn than the original show
fuckin kek

>>160509482
>Comparing an OVA to a TV Series

>>160511665
>'muh kewl non-sensical shot perspective and action' webgen shit
If you think that looks amazing then you really need to get your eyes checked up, buddy.

>>160511200
Post the damn video

>>160511347
>how to get replies

>>160512213
MMD is also clearly too limiting as a program otherwise I doubt they would have switched to Cinema4D instead when the usually do animate their TV series in MMD.

>>160511845
>It was another experience watching it ongoing
I did watch it ongoing but dropped it on episode 7. Then watched everything in one go before being spoiled

>>160511845
Ok let's stop with this bullshit.
Kemono friends isn't fucking good. It will never be considered as such, and if you liken the show to any degree of prestige, you are publicly admitting to having the worst shit taste brought on by cgi cancer in years.

>>160512191
Nip fandom, I mean. For all the vicious comparisons with bronies, KF threads on /a/ are rather modest, and western fans are almost nonexistent outside of /a/. Which is truly a blessing, just look at the Made in Abyss' fate to see what was avoided.

>>160511665
this is not good animation

>>160512393
It was a genuinely good show after episode 3.

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>>160512263
>"A-am I fitting in?"
Counterculture was a mistake

>>160512409
Yeah its too small in Japan too.

>>160512409
That is pretty much how horse was on /co/ until the /b/ faggots fucked it up

>>160512393
The only people that make comments like this are people that never actually watched the show.

It is, really, good. It has good characters, good designs, good writing and good direction. I can understand that you're so triggered by CGI that you don't want to see any of what I listed. But you should at least understand that your hate is not based on its objective merits.

>>160512578
>good characters
yeah, archetypes are really good

> good designs
it's just girls with clothes and animal ears.

>good writing
Yeah right

>good direction
the pacing really did go in a direction, in a snail tempo that is.

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>all these people shitting on Kemono Friends
Admit it, /a/. You should have at least saved some pictures of dem Friends because you found them cute or something, even if some of you haven't watched the show itself nor plan to.

>>160512676
you are on the same level as ponyfaggots

>>160512660
Epic burns friend. Kemono Friends can never recover.

>>160512578
The funny thing is people are only triggered by the CG because it is popular. Not one of them would even know or care about gdgd Fairies or Tesabu.

>>160512841
gdgd is actually funny, tesabu is shit though.

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>>160511558
Honestly one of the reason why I was hyped for this show, It looks gorgeous but turns out horrendously.

>>160512943
Only good for like, what, 2 episodes or something before it got boring.

>>160512578

Kemono Friends objectively looks like something your friend made in rendering a program as a joke

in a visual medium, that matters. the characters' faces are completely static, almost never changing expression other than their eyebrows, meaning no emotional moment lands, no joke lands

it's like pretending if your favorite song was turned into a midi with tuned fart noises, "it's just aesthetics, it's still a good song"

>>160512913
I assume you aren't a fan of humour that pokes fun at its own medium or you just preferred the more surreal approach of gdgd?

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>>160512676
God damn right I have saved pictures of Friends.

>>160513110
>the characters' faces are completely static
Someone never watched the show.

>>160512726
Good thing /a/ isn't into MLP then.

>>160513181
He probably meant that it doesn't have exaggerated cartoon faces as in traditional animation.

>>160512393
Only people with garbage taste spout shit like this.

>>160513110
You could see it like that. I think fans of the show see it more like preferring something like punk or lo-fi indie music to a full orchestral rendition of a complex symphony.

One is obviously from a technical perspective superior to the other but that doesn't mean you are necessarily going to connect with it anymore or find it more enjoyable.

>>160512468
Far bigger than anything come last two three years so nope.

>>160511453
So is KF.

>>160510652
That's largely because the 2000s were a transitional period where animators were still trying to get used to using digital tools.

>>160512676
I fapped to some pictures but never saved any of them

>>160512726
How is KF is same level of pony huh? KF threads have way less lewd fanarts than average /a/ threads. Show facts or fuck off.

>didn't watch Kememe-O Friends, Gabriel Droppedshow, or Dragon Meme because not a normalfag
Feels pretty good.

>>160512660
What a shit reply

>>160513681
KF isn't normalfag. I feel bad, I did watch dragon meme a two weeks ago because I was bored. I could have been above it

>>160513681
But KF is normalfag filter.

>>160513681
Kemono Friends is just about the least western normalfag friendly show to become popular in Japan in many many years.

Normalfag reaction to Kemono Friends in the west is exactly like what you see from the majority of people that hate the show on /a/. Hating 3D, thinking its a kids show, thinking its a furry show, comparing it to MLP.

>>160513771
>KF isn't normalfag

>>160510864
maybe you should lurk more

>>160513938
Ah yes, of course, most normalfags are astute sakugafags and prefer hand-drawn cels to 3D, sure.

>>160513944
See
>>160513938
KF requires some serious autism to even try. It's very stigmatised.

>>160514030
That's a good joke. You just want to plug your ears and pretend your aots isn't liked by normalfags because it'd make you look less cool in the eyes of other anons.

>>160514024
The default western position is to hate 3D in all forms in anime regardless of appreciating 2D animation with any amount of fervour.

>>160514024
>implying not
A normalfag once justified watching SnK to me because it had 'good animation'

>>160514088
>>160514081
Indeed, it is often I hear normalfags gushing about Itano Circus and lauding the hands of old, venerable animators. Often I will hear them cite Anno's early contributions to DYRL by these normalfags who are obviously very involved in their consumption of media as all normalfags are, of course.

>>160511419
Its probably popular with children in nipland which isn't a good indicator on its overall quality

>>160514081
You would know, huh? You seem to know quite a bit about being a casual consumer of anime.

>>160514079
But you said KF is normalfag.Why contradicting now?

>>160514165
You seem to be retarded or intentionally missing my point. I am stating that whilst most normalfags know fuck all about 2D animation they also absolutely hate any 3D animation that you can obviously identify as 3D. Hating 3D doesn't magically mean you have some great appreciation of 2D animation.

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k friends' visuals are part of the appeal

What really fucked anime are the charactor stereotypes like Tsundere, Kuudere etc.
Back then people started designing a character that matched with the plot.
Nowadays authors are like "Oh, i need a Tsundere and a Yandere.." without actually needing them.

>>160514165
>implying SnK has good animation
That's the whole point. They talk mad shit to try and pretend they are watching anime for a reason other than actually liking anime you spass.
>I-it's stupid but l-look at the animation
or
>T-this isn't like those stupid kiddy ones. It's got a real serious plot and stuff
Classic normalfag and even people that aren't normafags, say /co/, had CG. It turns everyone off and will do for like 5 more years maybe. Probably more.

>>160514285
Most popular with 30+ men.

>>160514285
The main audience for the show when it found its success was 30+ males in a 1am timeslot, they are only now about to start reshowing it for children at 7:30am because of its popularity with adults.

>>160514375
>>160514379
Furries are known to throw money at anything with animals in it

>>160513938
>comparing it to MLP
rightfully so.

only autistic manchildren and kids like it.

>>160514350
>>160514318
Because CG is awful 9/10 times and you only have to possess a modicum of taste to make that observation. Next you'll tell me Initial D's first season is the most obscure, un-normalfag friendly work out there.

You're a poser and a charlatan. KF is enjoyed by many normalfags. Cry some more.

>>160511260
No.

You don't fucking get it.

>>160514406
You think that furries made a show popular enough to get mainstream coverage on national news and the OP sung on the biggest music program in the country and made it the first anime ever to have two albums top the Japanese music charts at the same time?

>>160514406
But KF isn't furry like Made in Abyss. Did you see Nanachi. Now that's a furry girl.

>>160514415
Nah only normalfags hate it like you.

>>160514537
Yes by definition, yes.

>>160511232
I have yet to watch KF, but I hope this isn't another Emoji Movie situation.

>>160514470
You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>160514598
That's why all the other furry shows get so popular right?

>>160514292
So this is /a/ in 2017.

>>160514537
I don't find it surprising that nips have shit taste either. Sounds like a fad to me

Why do people even bother defending Kemono Friends? If it's that much of a newfriend filter then just let it be your secret coolkid club.

Who cares if people call you an autistic furry. These are the barbs you have chosen in seeing something like Kemono Friends and thinking "yeah, I'll investigate this and see if it has redeeming values"

>>160514681
It's amusing to watch people act like they have refined taste while they spew nonsense about things they have no idea about.

>>160514588
t. came here from Reddit

>>160514655
Stunning refutation, I am left aghast by such a sound argumentative parley. Clearly I know nothing.

>>160514681
That's the point I'm illustrating it. They feel compelled to defend it because they're poserly normalfags. CG doesn't mean shit (I imagine) because normalfags latched on to Initial D, one of the most garish examples of early CG.

>>160514470
Except Initial D's first season was very popular in Japan. Most popular late night shows in Japan are always less liked in West.

>>160514681
The original argument is that KF is a 'quality' story like the classics

>>160514681
they are autistic in a bad way.

I like my moeshit but Kemono Friends is just so dumbed down that it feels like watching a show for kids (which it is).

>>160514770
>(I imagine)
You doth protest too much normalfag
>cars and shit
>not normal fag central

>>160514793
You're changing the goalposts. The essence of the argument centred around CG being hated by normalfags, when it's really just CG being hated by most anyone with a modicum of taste. I do enjoy some 3DCGc in some hentai, but that's more or less it outside of shows with other redeeming factors.

>>160514752
t.underage normalfag

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>>160514770
Here is the twitch reaction to Kemono Friends when it was livestreamed there earlier today by Crunchyroll. Immediate disgust at the CG. You really do know nothing.

>>160509482
So it's missing creative shortcuts born out of need because there wasn't enough technology back then, which are forgiven by you because those shows are old and you like them? Okay.

>>160514165
lmao Macross and Evangelion are pretty normalfag. Fuck off back to Sakuga Blog, you pseud.

>>160514883
Hated by normalfag westerner isn't equal to normalfag Japanese.

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>>160514865
Except I'm saying Initial D is enjoyed by normalfags you daft faggot.

>>160514889
>Kememer Friends watch CR twitch streams
I don't have a Madotsuki with enough puke, but thank you for proving my point you colossal normalfag, streamwatching bitch.

>>160514886
u mad

>>160514957
The funny thing is the shit he is namedropping doesn't even make him look knowledgeable like he thinks.

>>160514971
Are you retarded? The Japanese Kemono Friends blogs literally repost this shit to comment on the westerners comments. Keep acting like you have any idea though.

>>160514982
u normalfag

>>160514957
Because /a/ wouldn't even comprehend if I namedropped something like Five Star Stories or Dallos or Daicon. Eat shit you social media using, wel-adjusted yuppie piece of garbage.

>lmao
xD
Duder you're so like with it xd
Hip to the hop. Seriously though launch yourself off a cliff.

>>160515046
>Five Star Stories or Dallos or Daicon
this has to be ironig, right?

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>>160515036
>I feverishly follow a blog for a show and save images of stream feeds indicative of normalfaggotry to defend something from not being seen as normalfag.

>>160515111
Stunning refutation. Guess I can take that as an admission that you were wrong.

>>160510545
LNs have less words than a Penguin book, they are literally like picture books for children, but with naked anime titties

Anime always was lowbrow, but it was well drawn lowbrow

>>160515099
>dude, I've never like, even, like, heard, like, of these, like shows, like like IRONY LMAO IRONY IRONY AREN'T I SO IRONIC?
Dallos was just for shits and giggles but if anyone is pseudo-anyone it's your ass. I was never a part of the sakuga scene because it's for n0ormalfags like yourself.

>>160515140
It is, go back to your streams you little normal faggot. Get the fuck out of here. Shouldn't you be on /v/?

>>160515205
no, you are the normalfag

>>160515165
This is just getting pathetic now. You've gone way off the deep end of pretending to be retarded after you've made yourself look dumb it seems. Your shows aren't even slightly obscure and don't make you look smart or knowledgeable at all.

>>160515205
Think that might be you who belongs on /v/.

>>160515099
>Daicon (which featured Itano Circus sequences) isn't obscure to normalfags
Oh yeah, sure, just like every Schmuck who picks up some Gunpla at their borders bookstore is intimately familiar with Kondo and Maschinen Kreiger, right? Fuck off you fake. Bait for recs elsewhere.

>>160513681
>replaces random bits in the names of shows he dislikes with meme
Very mature. Thanks for your quality contribution to this thread.

>>160515266
>Dallos isn't obscure
Right, obviously everything from Gaiarth to Zegoy isn't obscure in the least, right? I mean, EVERYONE, has seen Space Family Carlvinson. You right.

>>160515264
And stop samefagging you butthurt normalfag. You don't even have anything other than adhom. Fuck off kid.

>>160514165
>the average sakugafag is a pretentious sack of shit
Not surprised at all

>>160515368
I don't Dallos really is that obscure, its one of the works of one of the most famous directors of anime worldwide and often brought up for being the first OVA.

>>160515279
Done intentionally in case that was hard for you to process. Don't pop a blood vessel now.

>>160515442
It's called facetious, not pretentious.

>HE NAMEDROPPED I. CIRCUS HE MUST BE A SAKUGAFAG ZOMG!!!111
You're really just proving to me hjow much a normalfag you are. You don't have to be a sakugafag to know Itano Circus. I thought it was a widely known example of good animation. This is /a/ 2017 I guess.

>>160515459
It is but that doesn't mean it's brought up that often. Megazone 23 was the first widely successful OVA but the average normalfag hasn't heard of it, even with names like Mikimoto, Aramaki, Hirano etc attached.

>>160515111
>show is confirmed normalfag filter
>but you are normalfag because you went to steam!
Not really samething

>>160515574
Oh but it is you stream-following fuckboy. Now go learn English before using this imageboard again. Actually just fuck off forever.

>>160515556
And for the record I don't consider MZ23 obscure in the least, I'm just saying I've never heard a normalfag mention it. Then again, I don't spend a whole lot of time around normalfags so feel free to elucidate me.

>>160515279
>Gabriel Droppedshow
I don't see meme anywhere in there can you help me anon can not see eyes hurt ow

>>160515612
>muh steam following!
Shut the fuck up normalfag.

>it really was sakugafags, salesfags and newfags hating Kemono Friends all along
Oh god this is hilarious.

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>I'm a normalfag for berating you for following a stream
car door hook hand

>>160515046
So fucking mad. Just go die already.

>>160515099
He thought anyone who watches KF doesn't watch old anime, so afterward he spouted shitty obscure old anime which he liked, while not namedropping genuinely good obscure old anime like Hashire Melos. Itano wasn't even that obscure. If he were, his famous animation in Macross wouldn't become a meme in the first place. Like, literally normalfags knew Macross more, a popular old TV show, which is unarguably more popular than KF.

I take that back. The guy isn't a Sakuga drone. He's an oldshit Otaking tier level of retardation. Just be nice with him, if he's a Gen X he's gonna die soon anyway.

>>160514339
i second this
most characters now don't have any charasteristics or traits, they have fucking labels
"hi, im a *add any -dere archetype* character! in 90% i will do something every otaku who watched a single show with the other *add any -dere archetype* character would expect me to do and the other 10% is related to the 'plot' (mecha, fantasy etc.)"

>>160515732
>typing like a typical newfag
lurk more normalfag

>>160515556
Anyone with a cursory knowledge of anime that goes beyond being just a seasonal pleb has probably at least read about Dallos. I think people just have different perspectives on what is obscure to be honest. I'd me more impressed by someone namedropping Yasuji Mori or something but this is far away from the original point. If you think normalfags like Kemono Friends in the west you are completely out of touch and didn't follow the show at all while it was airing. There is still practically no fanbase in the west for it outside of /a/ despite it being huge in Japan.

>>160515756
>someone is a sakugafag for knowing a widely known example of good animation
Your first month here, little buddy?


>>160515804
>If he were, his famous animation in Macross wouldn't become a meme in the first place.
Exactly, that's what I'm telling this anon.

>>160515804
>He's an oldshit Otaking tier level of retardation
Holy shit that is exactly it.

>>160515832
>>160515804
>Dude, you don't keep up to date with what normalfags like!??? LMAO, GET A LOAD OF THIS VIRGIN, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT NORMALFAGS LIKE

Bring back telnet oh goodness help me.


>>160515878
>>160515804
Rather be that than a stream-watching normalfag. Don't you have some wrinkeled old puss-puss to be savoring? Fuckiong normalshits.

>>160515878
This samefag is so transparent it almost offends me that In fell for it.

>>160515929
If you keep up with current anime and post on /a/ regularly its pretty easy to get a feeling for what normalfags like.

>>160511603
80's is best.

>>160515929
Western normalfags like Boku no Pico Academia not Kemono Friends.

>>160515804
>'92
>old
Yeah, with Hiroyuki on character design? You're worse than manimefags. Suck a gun you tasteless pleb faggot underaged.

>>160516001
>If you post on /a/ in 2017 regularly
No I try not to browse too many threads here in this day and age because I forget most here are <20 and this thread has helped illustrate this to me. Thank you.

>>160509714
t. grumpy old man who thinks everything was better in prehistoric times

>>160516130
t. teenybopper who thinks he knows better and who's taste has acquiesced to enjoy lackluster shit

>>160516037
Posters on /a/ are far less likely to have seen Hashire Melos than Macross, Evangelion, Five Star Stories, Dallos or Daicon.

>>160516116
Kemono Friends fans actually tend to be older than average. It's usually teenagers and those with stunted mental development that shy away from anything that might be construed as childish.

>>160515985
Nah.

>>160516202
And if you missed it I mentioned Macross and Evangelion because I'm on /a/ and I know most aren't posers that drop an Osamu work (Hint: Osamu isn't obscure, faggot)

>>160516202
It has nothing to do with childishness, it's just underaged, having grown up with CG, have more of a tolerance for it. Please tell me just how much of a big old party-throwing fratboy alpha male Miyazaki is for hating how modern anime is approached today.

>>160515804
Hey man, not cool. I'm Gen X and I love Kemono Friends. S2 announcement kept me from killing myself.

>>160516202
>Dude, like KF posters are much older and more mature, we watch what is considered "childish" by some to prove that we're so level headed, and like mature

No self-awareness, huh? Pity your autism didn't prevent you from becoming a normalfag with shit taste who lauds Osamu works.

>>160516292
The majority of the fans of Kemono Friends in Japan are 30+ it has nothing to do with tolerance. Young people tend to dislike it quite a bit because they perceive it as being for children. Teens especially hate childish things because teenagers tend to try to avoid anything that could be seen as childish while trying to establish their adult identity.

>>160516368
>implying this little failed normalfag cares
You notice how it's just me and him now after he illustrated I wasn't a sakugafag because /a/ doesn't even know what sakuga is?

>>160516441
Yeah no shit thank you for the update C.S Lewis I've totally never heard of the quote you're obviously jacking to appear wise oh thank you great elderfag for passing on this nugget of wisdom

~OOMBASA


No you little puke-riddled faggotman it has everything to do with tolerance. The nips tolerate anything as long as it hits their moe spots which, bingo, anthropomorphized girls do. What else is big in Japan with anthropomorphized girls? Oh right, Kancolle. Oh right, Touhou, (well, not so much now but it's still going strong)

Point in case it's not a meme for nothing that nips will eat shit as long as it meets the barometer in a few ways.

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>>160514406
I hate furries, have never even fapped to furry porn. But I love Kemono Friends. They're just girls in animal themed outfits with tails and ears.

>>160516585
Quit being a niwaka

>>160516681
Which is exactly why it's popular with normalfags on both sides of the globe.

>>160516696
No, fuck you leatherman.

>>160516370
>lauds Osamu works
I was personally always under the impression the movie was considered noteworthy for the talent it had working on it rather than being a fine example of storytelling in anime you know Utsunomiya, Iso, Hashimoto, Inoue, Okiura, all those well known sakugafag favourites.

>>160516585
That is completely false though. There has never been a CG show with the same level of success as Kemono Friends. The same staff has made shows with moe girls are worse 3D animation before and never gotten big with it.

>>160516723
>if you're not a furfaggot you're a normalfag

Go play with your buttplugs

>>160511603
what went wrong after the 90s?

>>160516760
I'm not saying only furries or normalfags like KF, only that many normalfags do. Your defensiveness lends credence to my assumption of your normalfaggotry so thank you for biting into that.

>>160516758
We've been over this, I'm not a sakugafag.

>>160516758
>completely false
Not necessarily they just had to try a couple times for lightning to strike.

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>>160516723
>No, fuck you leatherman.
Please quit being a niwaka. Now can you?

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>>160516869
>Your defensiveness lends credence to my assumption of your normalfaggotry so thank you for biting into that.

>>160516869
So what is your evidence that western normalfags like Kemono Friends exactly?

>>160516938
Absolutely nothing, actually. We had this whole little disseratation because I only assumed so, I won't bullshit you, it just seems like the kinda show that attracted that crowd. I'm not even trying to pull a pretending to be retarded, I'm just going to be honest with you, I have no idea if normalfags actually like it but I bet you they do. Your taste is still shit though and you should really try to namedrop something with a better character designer next time.

>>160516929
Go back to /ota/ please thank

>>160516930
You got me.

>>160516869
>Not necessarily they just had to try a couple times for lightning to strike.
You can find literally hundreds of animations made in MMD centred around cute girls of the same or better quality online. Why were none of those Kemono Friends? All it takes is moe girls to become a mega hit in Japan right.

>>160517019
I didn't even bring up Hashire! Melos. Just telling you about my knowledge of it I didn't have to go google unlike yourself.

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>>160517019
>Go back to /ota/ please thank
But I like talking with you anon. Do you promise to meet me there?

>>160517021
>All it takes is moe girls to become a mega hit in Japan right.
Yeah, more or less. MMD isn't palatable enough for normalfags because of the ecchi it's often portrayed as, not incorrectly mind you. Plus MMD tends to be alot of the same stock dances recycled, at least in my experiences.

>>160517069
>google
It's called anidb but I feel I've demonstrated clearly enough that I know what I'm talking about. If I wanted to read teenagers cirlcejerking about "AW DUDE, BARRY IT'S SO COOL IT'S LIKE MUH EDGY HISTORIAL SEINEN" I'd go to www.4chan.org/a/

Oh wait.

>>160517115
No I don't need your pity.

>>160517148
>MMD isn't palatable enough for normalfags
Do you even know anything about the show you are arguing about?

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>>160517189
Rude.

Personally, I'm glad that Kemono Friends was a great resounding success.
It will forever trigger the wannabe-sakugadorks on /a/. No matter how much work animators put into, sometimes even dying while working on it, in the end, not even the nips themselves care about nip drawings.

>>160517307
What KF? I told you I have no idea and based my argument COMPLETELY on assumption. I also never said Dallos was one of my favorite anime, the animation was a bit stiff for my tastes though the idea was neat.

>>160517406
You've pretty much just said Kemono Friends isn't palatable for normalfags by claiming normalfags don't like MMD after spending all this time arguing its for normalfags.

>>160517356
Except it's been made abundantly clear I've nothing to do with sakugafaggotry. In fact, you only started mentioning it after I first mentioned sakugafaggotry. I brought it up first you dim-witted shitchild.

>>160517453
Yes and?

>>160517356
I love 2D animation, learning about it and researching it and I also love Kemono Friends.

>>160517469
You are arguing against your own argument now. We are in agreement. Kemono Friends isn't for normalfags.

Ah. Yep, see first mention of sakufag this thread was by me, see here >>160514024 Chicago style citations thank you purdue owl

So you can fuck off now sweetums.

>>160517536
Nah, KF is for normalfags and MMD isn't on normalfags radar and is seen as too hentai for them. If KF wasn't for normalfags then /a/ wouldn't have so many threads about it because I'm the last non normalfag still browsing that isn't a failed normalfag.

Honestly, I don't watch most new anime because only a handful of shows appeal to me personally. You rarely ever get fantasy anime without it also being isekai, mecha is kinda dead, and shows with high school settings are either bad melodrama or SoL that forgot to include comedy.

>>160517605
You've given up even trying to sound logical now. That was some impressive autism you had going there though.

>>160517347
Don't take it personally, I'm just some anon.

>>160517681
See if I'm not right. MMD is seen as too out there if normalfags are even aware of it in the first place where KF looks like it could theoretically air on the Disney Channel in terms of things like lewdness

Story > animation.
Nips and the rest of the world agreed, don't ever bother anyone for the next 50 generations.

>>160514488
>implying
Nigger, I know Mikimoto's artstyle.

>>160517821
Yeah, I'm really interested in the lore and extended universe of KF actually. Alotta potential there.

>>160517809
It really does take some impressive autism to spend that much time shitposting about something you self admittedly know nothing about.

>>160517942
Nah, I know a thing or two. Since when is autism an insult anyway? You some kinda of normalfag?

>>160517999
Why would you take that as an insult?

>>160518086
Because all the happening normalfolk on /a/ use it as such.

>>160515039
nice insult

>plotfags

>>160518443
Speaking of plotfags, they think they're above the plebs, but they're unable to appreciate visual storytelling, let alone abstract animations.

>>160510864
fucking hell this is embarrassing. never post again.

>>160517821
Honestly, if animation wasn't just as important then what would be the point of putting stuff into an animated format in the first place?

>>160521112
To make people aware that there's a manga, mobile/console/computer game, light novel or trading card game of the thing they should buy.

>>160510545
>it had an engaging, affecting, genuine and sincere story and characters people loved.
So does Uchouten Kazoku, but it didn't sell for shit.

>>160513938

>normalfags
>hating 3D
No, they're the primary market for 3D. And really, no one should be supporting 3D animation. Japan is the last bastion of 2D animation. If they start falling for the 3D meme, then 2D animation is going to die. And Disney will basically buy every anime studio, forcing them to make 3D crap on the cheap.

Sakuga fags are the worst form of cancer. They don't know what makes anime good at all. Maybe they will some day understand the very good reason why mediocre garbage like Flip Flappers flopped despite good production values, while shows like Kemono Friends break records.

>>160521112
Because it can be more engaging and presentable that way.

>>160521112

Animation can do things live action can't. But that being said you still need a good story and characters. A show can have bad animation, but still be an enjoyable watch if the story/characters are good. A show with amazing animation but boring story/characters is not a good watch (see Hyouka).

>>160511260
They help define the face some and just look good. Not blush lines, line lines.

Dragon Ball still does this but theirs are more for indenting cheeks and more vertical.

>>160511558
That whole show had a 80s/90s drawing and shading asethic.

>>160516868
Digital colouring in the early 00's gave us pencil thin outlines and less nose

>>160524832

You can have a defined face without lines. Other artists use shadows, others angle the eyes/nose/mouth to simulate depth, others use blush, etc. The thing you guys who generalize all modern animation never seem to realize is that all of these things are based on personal design and budget. There are still anime productions that have come out after 2000 that still have 'depth' to it. It's about how much budget the show has and how competent the episode/series directors are. And Manga has seen even bigger improvements in the last two decades.

SoL is crap unless it's in DVD quality and the voiceover recordings sound like they're done on a cheap little USB mic

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The OP was good, but this thread is a dumpster fire

>>160515808
>>160514339
>This shit happened a ton in the 90's as well. They just didn't shove it in your face. You still had the hime, the tsundere etc.

>>160509482
what it really misses is one more tone in shading

>>160518249
good

>>160509482
that's called detail.

>>160511603
>80's are GOAT
>90's mass production really kicks in
>00's are a clusterfuck
>10's start to figure out the new technology

80's>90's=10's>00's

Accurate as fuck. There were a couple standout early 00's anime though that have a pretty unique style.

>>160526065
like most animes ever

>>160511603
i may be really fucked in the head but i really like the 90's one and i dont know why

>>160525763
End yourself.

>>160511665
This is fucking terrible

>>160527225
I'd say 10s > 90s > 80s >00s. There is more quality anime now than at any other point in history.

t. oldfag

>>160529769
What's wrong with it?

>>160511603
why is 80's so smug?

>>160529832
>mouth opens suddenly with no frames between being closed and open
>foreshortening during punch is way off
>fist suddenly makes contact with face with no force conveyed
>shot from behind doesn't show the ground, giving no sense of space or scale whatsoever when he is sent flying back
>her victory pose is her swinging her sword in virtually stop-motion, again without enough frames to convey weight, force, or motion
>explosion is just a badly shaded orange blob
This is the kind of thing that would impress a 12 year old who doesn't know shit about animation because it "looks cool". It's a fucking clusterfuck.

>>160509482
>tfw no anime will ever be animated the way they used to be ever again
I mean, I don't completely hate modern styles, I'd just like a little bit of that older style.

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>>160511603

Christ almighty this thread slid into the sea of shit.

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Who cares, modern anime is better-animated than ever. The old styles had their day in the sun, it's time to move over.

>>160529989
>>explosion is just a badly shaded orange blob
That's the worst part of webgen shit. Random splotches of color with no thought behind it.

What modern anime is missing is heart & love.

http://67.159.62.2/anime_ost/top-o-nerae-gunbuster-sound-collection-of/wjqzrwhgdk/205%20Kouhei%20Tanaka%20-%20Noriko%20M-6.mp3

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>>160530130
You don't understand, webgen are the inheritors of Satoru Utsunomiya and Norio Matsumoto's efficient approaches to effects animation.

>>160530111
>muh impact frame spam at retarded places to confuse the viewer and nothing else
>ms-paint oval shape "effects"
>meme cubes
>awful colors
>no continuity
Mob Psycho is an insult to animation. At least it makes for a good example of real "forced animation". As in animation that is ridiculously ineffective for the sake of being flashy.

>>160529989
I agree with the punch lacking impact, but the other points are nitpicking about directing or the constraints of limited animation.

>>160509482
It's missing sweet hand drawn mech series. Most other things are still present. The OVA bubble bursting and the rise of CG garbage are depressing.

>>160530223
I get the feeling that if you were alive in the 70s, you'd be one of those autists who'd complain about Yoshinori Kanada's flashy and distinct animation and how he's ruining young animators by inspiring hundreds of copycats.

>>160510545
>Kememe Faggot pretending his shit anime made up for the garbage visuals with good characters and story
It did everything poorly and it's a shitty meme anime.

>>160530297
Empty words but at least you didn't try to deny the truth.

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The best thing about modern anime i the incorporation of digital compositing, enabling animators to create sequences that wouldn't have been possible in cel.

>>160530133
>Heart & love
>Posts an anime that was just a ripoff of something else
Are you being ironic or something??

>>160530223

(You)

>>160530351
(YOU)

>>160511603
80's>90's>00's>10's

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>>160530259
Hand drawn mech series haven't gone anywhere.

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How can old anime even compete?

>>160530558
>posts clip art animation

>>160530561
What is it with modern anime and moving the camera around the scene so much like that? It makes me feel sick.

>>160530561
Cool video game. What's it called?

>>160511665
>>160512263
>>160512423
>>160529769

Honestly that scene isnt amazing for its animation, but rather the sound effects, without the sound it literally loses all its impact.

Yozakura has some of the best sound work of any anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRUESFPX-a4

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get off the thread and get a room faggots

Anime is a visual medium
If it looks like shit I won't watch it
I haven't watched Fafner even though I only hear good things about it just because I can't stand Hiraiface

>>160531004
>if it looks like shit I won't watch it
explains why you're unshaven, then

>>160531023
unshaven AND morbidly obese!

>>160530681
its called forced animation

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I love the webgen style

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>>160531156
now, from the superior Birdy

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>>160531257
I like her facial expressions. Pretty typical action animation there though.

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>>160509714
Agreed Anon, there are far too little original anime these days
>>160510545
>Kemono Friends
>engaging, affecting, genuine and sincere story and characters
>>160531257
definitely superior

>>160524492
>KFag
>Thinks Hyouka is bad
Is a double digit IQ a requirement for liking MLP: anime edition?

>>160530558
I can't tell if you're joking or being serious. If you're being serious, at least post GBF.

>>160530368
there's less homogeneity between the background and character art