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Shingeki no Bahamut

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Why is she so perfect?
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>>160444723
Who is this stranger? I don't recognize her.
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>the endcard was Nina
Fucking bullshit.
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Why do they keep introducing new characters?
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>>160445139
OH SHIT NINA'S TWIN BROTHER

DO YOU THINK HE'S WORKING WITH CHRIS?
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What 's wrong with Kaiser for not marrying her on the spot.
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>>160445669
His heart is for another
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>>160444723
>all of the demons in the slum look like shit
>they disguise themselves as high tier demon lords in expensive clothing

Did they really think this would work? Even nina's retarded beard was better.
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>all she needed was a kiss to be able to control her power

Really?
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>>160445139
Is he mexican?
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>>160447406
It's a virgin thing. Can't explain shit.
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>no episode for 2 weeks
NO
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because Miyuki Sawashiro
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>>160444723
Zombie loli. Enough said.
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>>160444723
It's the snark. She's the perfect straight man to ground the test of the eccentric cast and we love her for it.
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>>160444723
>Jeanne wasn't present to get a demon make-over
Another missed opportunity.
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>>160451296
She already has a demon form.
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>>160447616
yes, and he is called el nino
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>a couple of episodes of Jeanne and Nina hoemance and wacky hijinks
>then Chris shows back up for teen romance bullshit
I guess a good thing can't last forever.
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>>160447981

Petit Charat for life.
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>>160451345
That wasn't great though.
I'd rather Rita covered her in body paint and gave her some fake horns.
I would have liked to have seen that.
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I hope El kills everyone and takes over the world to make his utopia where demons with big butts and angels with big busts can live together in harmony and his mom gets all the dick she abstained from all these years.
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Romance subplots ruin fucking everything.
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Who will murder Charioce?
El Mungo?
Kaisar?
Azazel?
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>>160451617
El is the anti-hero we need but don't deserve.
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>>160444723
She genuinely looks like shit.
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>>160451638
Romance anything ruin fucking everything.
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>>160451695
Bahamut
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>>160451695
Hope it's Kaiser desu.
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>>160451853
Will he just wake up for a split moment to swallow him in a quick bite, just like the crocodile in the movie Hook with Robin Williams?
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That shit was disney levels of cute. Anyways, guess they are going to push for a "Onyx Captain is last boss" scenario, right?
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Charioce deserves love and happiness
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>>160452439
i bet he is trying to kill bahamut
it would make sense as it would imply him avenging his mother, and he needed to fuck up the balance of power so that bahamut can be freed, gets dromos that has an equal power to blast him, etc.

That said i dont think even dromos could work on Baha. It could punch him well, probably, but that beautiful dragon pretty much breathes atomic blasts.
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>>160452405
>"Onyx Captain is last boss" scenario, right?
Isn't that guy only maintened alive through that green glowing bracelet thing? If anything, there's something bigger behind the picture.
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>>160452405
Yeah, cute boy cheetos will change sides so retardo MC can have her happy ending.
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>>160444723
>loli zombie demon necromancer in lingerie
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>>160452405
I hope not. That guy is such a non character. Nobody even knows his fucking name.
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>>160444723
She does strange things to my dick. A corpse shouldn't be this attractive.

https://youtu.be/qWs33kWmSEw
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>>160451741
>Charioce dies in a tactical angel carpet bombing the very moment he sees the error of his ways
>Nina becomes a catatonic basket case
>El gives 0 zero fucks and builds a godly harem (+Azazel)
Best possible outcome.
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>>160452405
>That shit was disney levels of cute.
Sure. Except if all the custey animals were sculpted out of shit.
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>>160452518
>i bet he is trying to kill bahamut
That's nice prediction.
He's being an evil king in order to create as much chaos as possible in hopes of awakening Bahamut. Too bad his little toy will fuck him up because it's too much for him to handle. Even Lucifer stated that humans cannot control such power.

>You will never make Gabu lose composure.
Why even life my fellow ningens.
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>>160453983
forgot pic.
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>>160453789
>>160444723
pedos get out now
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>>160454021
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>>160453982
You mean, except the cutesy animals were enslaved demon kids with their wings clipped.
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>>160452518
Retarded and convoluted. Also this implies Cheerios is a freaking cretin who's willing to endanger the entire world for this convoluted revenge plot and needs to be put down immediately.
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>>160453143
Hey man, gotta push the blmane onto someone. The amounts of bending backwards, rectonning and twisting the narrative to make Cheerios look good is starting to get ridiculous.
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>he doesn't want to see the god emperor of fucking mankind riding into the ultimate battle on their personal battle dragon (and wife)

Talk about shit taste
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>>160454087
Nice one.
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>>160445139
KISAMA! Are you a dragon or a demon??
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>>160445139
Grande
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>>160454228
Shouldn't have made him a irredeemable cunt and ruin the experience.
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This ship is the worst.
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>>160454389
>thinking this man right here can do ANY wrong or evil
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>>160445139
Niño needs more screen time.
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>>160454447
The unsettling cold feeling that looking at a psychopath's face gives you in your stomach.
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>>160454228
Look, the guy has done some seriously fucking immensely evil stuff. I don't feel like rooting for his happiness.
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>>160454519
... that makes women wet like no other.
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>>160454519
The feel in your stomach is the caress of the wings of the butterflies flying inside
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>>160454575
He can still die in a blaze of glory.
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>>160454494
>Niño
Kek
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>>160454636
He doesn't deserve it. The most fitting death for him is getting torn to pieces by a bunch of hungry demon berserkers while Gabriel douses him in her holy golden shower and become forgotten by history.
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>>160454519
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>>160454765
>>160454611
>>160454585
Didn't know they had internet in psychiatric ward.
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I liked this episode
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>>160453789
Who drew that?
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>>160454823
Me too
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>>160454300
Nina got some nice thick thighs.
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>>160454211
I dont see why people say this. Cheerios playing with the kids is something that just happened there, showcasing how he is starting to open himself to Nina idea of not being a BIG BAD BULLY. I dont think you are supposed to think he is a good guy because of that, more that he is a conflicted guy who is beggining to consider changing himself.
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¡Hola!
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>>160454149
But he is. As he said to Kaisar, he prefers to die than to live bowing his head. This might have been more about Bahamut than about the demons.
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>>160455035
>first I genocide them and enslave the survivors
>then I will play ball with them
>I am the best king ever
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>>160455035
/a/utists can't into nuance
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>>160455168
That was prime quality black humor.
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>>160455245
If you don't understand why this scene was pants on head retarded slash inappropriate regarding what they were trying to achieve then that makes you the autistic anon-chan.
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I hope my nigga Lucifer saves the world soon.
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>>160455168
All this bullshit was just an excuse for Charioce to form a minor league soccer team.
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>>160455035
>I dont see why people say this.
Because we're able to contextualize that scene.
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>>160454211
>twisting the narrative to make Cheerios look good
But he was good since episode 1
Demon and Angel symphathizers should be executed
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>>160455301
As I said yesterday, in this kind of society, this shit happens. Nazis played with jew kids, white south africans with little niggers, romans with slaves, and so on. Even in strict, and segregated societies, among the violence and hatred, there is also love, friendship and overall interactions.
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The best thing is that Cheerios wasn't even bothered he's playing with a child's skull.
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>>160453789
Do people really enjoy this type of music? I can't understand a single word he's saying.
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>>160455457
Cool. Except those events would not have been used in a fairy tale romance as background for a cutsey scene. Why are you so putting-things-into-context-impaired autist-kun?
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Slavery is not that bad, demons need the firm hand of a human massa to properly achieve things, else they go full chuuni and start to make contracts.
Now they learn useful skills like construction or arena fighting. Sure it is sometimes tough, but it is humanity's burden to elevate the lesser races to actual civilized behavior.
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>>160455562
I can see the guys I described playing with kids in front of their wives/women, as they then proceed to go to eat something and fuck
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>>160455640
Demons weren't niggers though, they were civilized
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>>160455035
>Ah yeah, sorry for the torture, murders and humiliation kids. I'm a new man now thanks to my waifu whom I spoke to on three occasions, one of which being me making a joke of her. Wanna play balls?
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>>160455782
No, its

>Alright, lets see whats up with those kids im enslaving and torturing in order to achieve my purpose. Maybe she is right and being a monster is not worth it.
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I didn't watch S1,but can somebody explain to me why Jeanne has demon form despite being a saint?
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>>160455856
She gave into the demon dick.
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>>160455856
She got Satan'd
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>>160455842
>Maybe she is right and being a monster is not worth it.
But that's not what his thought process is at all, he's still convinced his way of doing is right.
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>>160455856
>I didn't watch S1
You should, it's way better than S2
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>>160455952
Well, he said he has doubts since meeting Nina, but he still into it. He is not gonna do an instant turn at all after all he did. That would be retarded.
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>>160455856
She was manipulated into giving into despair and assuming the angels had forsaken humanity.
Then she went on a killing spree that resulted in the death of Michael aka El's dad.

The good thing was that she looked like Yolandi from Die Antwort while she was an edgy demon.
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>>160456021
And only because of Nina. Probably because the puss is strong.
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>>160455952
And who could blame him, so far everything has been going smoothly.
Still, it is highly unlikely from a dramatic perspective that he will get away with it.
Charioce is going down, either put to the sword or crippled and/or blinded and exiled.
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>>160445063
This. Why the fuck could it not be rita? There will be plenty of opportunities to lewd the nina.
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>>160455872
>>160455922
Wew
Sounds like Asanagi writing
>>160455960
Will do
>>160456031
Thanks
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>>160455756
They were living in giant snails and wearing revolting lipstick. I wouldn't call that civilized.
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>>160456212
Not any more degenerate than the east cost
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>>160455842
Gee! I think you won me over Chari!

>>160456021
Ya know, I don't really think it's worth a bother. Why should I give a fuck? There's nothing about Cheerios or his relationship with Nina that would make me root for him to change and achieve happiness. He's an oppressor and a morally bankrupt person. Fuck him, I don't give a damn. And especially I don't give a damn about his golden cage problem. Desite being on this site for so long I still feel like my heart is kind of in the right place. So really fuck Cheerios somebody put him down already. It's a huge damn shame this series is centered around this fucking evil primadonna.
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>>160456085
>And who could blame him, so far everything has been going smoothly.
As smoothly as the green magic eating at his guts eh?
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From regular person point of view Cheerios might be a dick, but he's damn good king.
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>>160456560
A good King doesn't wage war against literal gods and demons.
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>>160456639
He does if he knows he can win.
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So Sofiel is putting her entire career and livelihood on the line for the vague prospect of pussy.

Angels truly aren't that different from us.
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>>160456639
He won, so he's good. If he had lost, then he'd be a real shitty king
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>>160456560
Nah, he's only able to provide for like one city at a huge cost and that city itself is debased as fuck. Humans became no different from the evil demons under his rule.
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>>160456710
Well it's either Jeanne's tight pussy or the flock of angel niggers.

I'd jump off too.
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>>160456639
Demons have no one to blame except themselves.
Gods are just cunts
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>>160454824
LL
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?illust_id=59718902&mode=medium
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>>160456800
>Gods are just cunts
Literally did nothing to deserve his aggression.
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These threads alone are enough to make me wish for Bahamut to come already and destroy everything, especially the ningens.
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>>160456859
Thanks dude.
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>>160456560
Start a war against everyone reasons.

Thing start off going quite well, labour camps and genocide included. Will probably end up getting a lot of his own people killed and leave behind a smoking ruin of a kingdom.

The guy is literally fantasy Hitler.
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>>160456899
They just made Humans subservient to them since forever
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>>160456899
They got butthurt the moment humanity stopped praising them.
>>160457039
>Hitler
Azazel pls.
They are more like Roman empire on steroids.
Enslave the enemies, and kill everyone who tries to resist. Nothing new here.
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>>160457328
>They got butthurt the moment humanity stopped praising them.
Yeah, so? They felt butthurt, and that's good cause to start raiding their temples, killing the gods therein, and stealing whatever valuables can be found? Doesn't make a fuck of sense. You don't kill people for their feelings of butthurt.
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>>160457328
>Roman empire on steroids.
You mean that puny little town he calls his kingdom?
Cheerios is just a haggard Stallin wannabe, barbarian edition.
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>>160457488
>You don't kill people for their feelings of butthurt.
But they are not people.
Think as king would think. They are powerful, and present danger cause they are arrogant fuck who think you should spend your life worshipping them. And therefore they must be eliminated.
>>160457620
I thought he has some other lands in his kingdom. Are there any other human kingdoms to begin with?
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This was all just a setup so Chris could track her using that necklace
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>>160457019
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>>160456560
We don't know enough about the setting (like everything else about this show, it isn't exploring it's world beyond a surface level) to even say that I feel. Apparantly the rest of the world outside the city is sort of shit. Charioce invaded heaven and hell and enslaved entire races just for some free labor and miscellaneous use slaves in the capital? Or is he the king of some sort of city state (although it was referred to as "the capital" early on)? Even if that were the case, with the power of the fucking gods how is he only the king of some bumfuck tiny city, he's been doing this for a while has he not?
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>>160458060
>Charioce invaded heaven and hell and enslaved entire races just for some free labor and miscellaneous use slaves in the capital?
Are you retarded ? He invaded hell just to fuck over demons so they wouldn't try to fuck with humanity ever again, and he invaded heaven to steal their tech and super weapon.
Slaves are just a bonus
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>>160457787
>present danger
Why would you think that? They've spent thousands of years covering the ningentachi's back and had literally done absolutely nothing to penalize the humans who stopped worshiping them. Hell, Charioce was the one who kicked off the whole trend of not praying to the gods anymore, with zero prompting from the gods, and then he starts killing gods because, as you claim, the gods present a danger as they are butthurt that some people stopped praying to them, even though there is not a single speck of concrete evidence that the gods had done or would do anything at all to penalize the humans' lack of faith.
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>>160458060
I belive it's called "bad writing".
We don't really know much about the world but we know that he did
>btfo demons
>build a pretty good little or not little (we don't know) empire
>steal some superweapons from gods
>btfo gods
>made humanity the most powerful race
I think this makes him a rather good king no matter how you look on it.
Demonfags and gods apologists don't need to apply.
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>>160456899
I mean, the argument is that they made humans subservient to them. Which is fine but only if people acknowledge that humans can't deny the argument being used against themselves now, which is the whole point of S2's central conflict that isn't anywhere near as interesting as the writers probably think it is.
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>>160458154
He's right though. He invaded hell mostly for slaves. Anyway, we don't really know what his main goal actually is. It's a secret.
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>>160458306
>done or would do anything at all to penalize the humans' lack of faith.
Didn't we had an entire episode of God invading city? The only reason they didn't invade before it's because they lack magical boy.
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>>160458479
>He invaded hell mostly for slaves
Proof ? Because I don't remember anything nor anyone explicitly stating that, and my explanation makes much more sense
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>>160451695
His right hand.
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>>160458550
>and my explanation makes much more sense
It would make more sense if he wiped them all the demons out, like he could've.
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>>160458550
Sheer scale of the slave trafficking operation.
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>>160458550
>Proof
The fact that there are slaves at all? People on /a/ are the only ones characterizing him as a relentless demon killer when it's been at best secondary to his actions up until this point.
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>>160455317
Spin off anime witht demon kids forming a soccer tram and cheerios as there coach when?
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>>160458599
Except genocide has rarely been a thing in history. Usually you want to rule over subjects, and that means they need to stay alive

>>160458622
And ? Romans enslaved all of carthage people when they took the city. Charioce probably took as many demons as he could when he invaded, doesn't mean it was his primary goal

>>160458681
Dude, slavery, usually, has always been the side effect of invasion and conquest, especially when it was rampant like in the antiquity. Charioce having slaves doesn't mean he invaded demons just to enslave them
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>>160458382
>>made humanity the most powerful race
More like only a tiny fraction of the human race. The ones who wear the black armour to be precise.
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Why is naked nina the only good nina?
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>>160457792
That'd be sad
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>>160458788
>Except genocide has rarely been a thing in history.
Haha, oh wow.

>Charioce probably took as many demons as he could when he invaded, doesn't mean it was his primary goal
He was way too well prepared for that. Did he just happen to haul the wooden crates demons were transported in by accident?
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>>160458382
Demons terrorized humanity for ages while gods provided limited support in exchange for servitude. It was basicly a proxy war between demons and gods where humanity was suffering all the costs. Charioce was right to btfo both of them, he has some greater thing in mind tough so considering that he did nothing wrong.
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>>160458506
>Didn't we had an entire episode of God invading city?
Yeah, because Charioce was killing gods, stealing holy stuff, imprisoning saints, etc. This would not have happened if Charioce wasn't responsible for the initial and repeated aggression against the gods. When they came to him they simply asked that he release Jeanne and restore the valuables he'd stolen. There was no demand for prayers. And he still refused to even make an attempt at negotiating a compromise.

There was no conflict before he started one. People were praying, but he made them stop praying. The gods kept to themselves, but then he attacked them. The gods approached him to settle the score diplomatically, despite the violence he'd inflicted on them, but he told them to fuck off. If there is any problem between his kingdom and the gods, it's entirely of his own making.
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Thoughts on Nina boobies?
https://youtu.be/ZLo7I9cncm8
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>>160458788
>Dude, slavery, usually, has always been the side effect of invasion and conquest
Dude, look at the argument you were making in your initial post >>160458154
>"He invaded hell just to fuck over demons so they wouldn't try to fuck with humanity ever again"

You're saying that he invaded hell in order to prevent them from fucking with humanity.
Charioce has the power to wipe them out completely.
Instead of wiping them out completely in order to prevent them from fucking with humanity, he instead starts up a slave trade.

What happened throughout real life history doesn't work as a parallel here, maybe that's what the writers are going for but it's not an effective comparison so far.
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>>160458599
His goal, as was explicitly stated time and again, was to stop humans fearing demons. He neither wanted/needed genocide nor slavery. I guess it's true what they say, average weeb IQ is in the single digits.
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>>160458860
Cheerios will stick to his plan, he just wanted to get laid before.
He abandoned his Chris persona during the last episode, first he sold his glasses to buy the necklace, then he took off his turban to make a ball to play footie with and in that one scene during the date he made his usual ominous king charioce face.
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>>160458973
They exist and I can appreciate them on some level.
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>>160456768
Those niggers are probably eunuchs.
The only pass time in heaven is licking Gabriel's clit.
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>>160458986
Romans destroyed Carthage - their greatest enemy, salted the land and took prisoners as slaves
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>>160459096
Thanks for confirming the height of your unintelligence.
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>>160458889
>Haha, oh wow
I'm sorry, but it's true. Massacres and high death tolls were frequent, but it was usually the side effects of wars, like famine and disease, which caused this. Even the mongols didn't genocide the country they invaded, it's just that they were so brutal that the countries couldn't stand up after they passed. The only time to my knowledge Romans exterminated a population on purpose was during the conquest of Gauld, because a tribe refused to submit completely and rebeleld multiple times

>Did he just happen to haul the wooden crates demons were transported in by accident?
You know that maybe it's been years since the invasion. The traffic is now established and the infrastructure is there, those wooden crates prove nothing

>>160458980
>You're saying that he invaded hell in order to prevent them from fucking with humanity.
Yes

>Charioce has the power to wipe them out completely.
Yes

>Instead of wiping them out completely in order to prevent them from fucking with humanity, he instead starts up a slave trade.
Yes

>What happened throughout real life history doesn't work as a parallel here
Yes it does. Carthago delenda est. The Romans were so buttblasted by Hannibal and the 2nd punic war they swore to destroy Carthage, and they did, but they didn't genocide its people, simply because it's both a waste of resources, and a thing you don't do
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>>160459143
You are assuming that he mean't what he said and that it was his sole and main reason
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>>160459223
>that post
>also mean't
pottery
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>>160459168
>those wooden crates prove nothing
Except the fact that Cheerios' primary involvement in Cocytus and its surrounding is slave extraction.
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>>160459307
Please develop because it really seems like you're extrapolating there
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>>160459168
>Yes it does.
No it doesn't. You can't argue that Charioce simply wanted to make demons unable to terrorize humans anymore and nothing else + argue that slavery was a necessary/preferred outcome while the fact that Charioce had this godly power to wipe them out completely exists, it's not comparable to what the Romans did no matter how much you keep trying to force the comparison.

The key fact here is Charioce and the power of the gods that he has. There is no given reason as to why Charioce didn't just wipe them all out if we're to believe that his motive is to simply have humanity be the top dogs, if you want to assume anything here solely from the facts we have then it's that he wanted slaves.
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>>160459143
He defeated the demons who were enemies of humanity since forever and took some slaves as it was a pure benefit (almost free labor). Hunting down all demons could be a pain in the ass and leaving some alive is alwayes a good boogeymen to keep society in order.
Gods were parasiting on manking and were part of the system that basicly exploited them. Without the demon threat gods are not needed anymore and naturally become enemies as they can exist only as masters to men.
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>>160459463
>some
Haha, some slaves, you guys. Some slaves. There's probably as many demon slaves in that city as there's ningens.
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>>160459572
In the capital probably yes, but outside? In the scale of whole human kingdom demon slaves are probably quite rare.
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>>160459463
>Hunting down all demons could be a pain in the ass
You can't use this argument if you're trying to say that everything Charioce is doing is for the purpose of humanity never again being taken advantage of by demons or gods. If it was just plain old conquest and power that he seeks then yeah, you can make that arguement. You guys keep selectively saying that he is on a journey of conquest and that he isn't when it suits your point.
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>>160459444
>Romans were afraid of Carthage because it was the one city which came close to destroy them
>they talked for decades about destroying it
>finally they destroyed it and erased any chance from getting fucked over once more
>AND YET they didn't kill everyone despite hating their fucking guts but enslaved them and took them back with them
>somehow this doesn't apply to this very similar situation
I'm fucking done with you. Genocide is not always the first thing people think about when they have a problem, in fact, it's rarely ever the case. Even nazis thought about simply deporting jews before just killing them
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>>160452439
Charioce deserves to be dismembered alive and have his rotten carcass thrown in a dumpster.
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>>160459701
Both is fine with me, just don't make him a bitch that gives it all up for love
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>>160459463
This. But seeing so many retards don't even get those basic facts straight, it's not surprising they end up confused and hate the show
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>>160459617
So what? The capital is basically how far all of Cherios' activities go.
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>>160453983
>He's being an evil king in order to create as much chaos as possible in hopes of awakening Bahamut
What no

The dimensional rift is going to open so he needs enough power to kill Bahamut as the Angels refused to help him bring back his mother. So he's going to go to a separate dimension to retrieve her. The rift was opening regardless he's just keeping it to himself so the angels won't try to delay it's opening
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>>160459667
>somehow this doesn't apply to this very similar situation
It doesn't for the reasons I just explained. Charioce's very character and ability set makes the comparison irrational if we're to believe that all he wants is for humanity to never again be terrorized by demons. The Romans had nothing comparable to that.

For what it's worth I don't doubt that it's possibly the comparison that the writers are going for, but like I said it's not an effective comparison (but for the fact that Charioce almost certainly has some ulterior motive for doing all this anyway, probably something melodramatic and cliche shoujo)
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>>160459658
There can be more than one purpose and you can make some compromises, especially when you have multiple goals.
His real goal is probably killing the Bahamut for good using that weapon. The weapon was in shatteres scattered around "heaven" and "hell" so he had to defeat both sides to gain control over it (considering it's power neither side wanted anyone else have it)
Humans don't need to fear demons anymore, in the broader picture it's the oposite now.
Humans also don't need to bow before the gods who offered "protection" against demons anymore.
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i want to plow nina
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>>160459957
>The Romans had nothing comparable to that.
Roman mother told stories to their children about Hannibal coming to eat them if they'd not behave. Carthage was THE boogeyman of the romans, so the situation does apply here.

So yeah, you're retarded and can't do a simple parallel with a historical situation, and keep spouting "why wouldn't he kill them all", without thinking of all the implications it would have, and the simple fact it's not a cultural thing to do
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>>160456710
She's going to die isn't she?
She's going to die a horrble death because of the little edgy faggot.
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>>160460125
The historical parralel works if you believe that Charioce was out for conquest and not just wanting to ensure that humanity never again needed to fear demons, yes. You guys are the ones trying to rationalize everything within that one stated aim when it doesn't work, because unlike whatever historical parallel you have Charioce has a wacky fantasy ability to make it a very literal reality. Not denying that the writers may be going for said historical parallels, I'm saying that it's not an effective parallel (again, but for the fact that Charioce has other motivations for doing everything he's doing)
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Chris' girlfriend is really cute.
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>>160460297
i kinda half expected chris to go skinny dipping with her while she was nude in that pool of water
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>>160451542
There's still time.
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holy fuck what was with all of the quality in this episode?
look at the hands in faces in the first couple scenes
theyre all super long and not fully drawn at all
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>>160460275
The sole purpose of the 3rd punic war was to destroy Carthage. At this point, the city had no power anymore, no fleet to contest the roman lake that was the mediterranean see, and yet Rome wanted to erase that fucking city out of the face of the earth because the spectre was still alive.

It's the same thing

>but for the fact that Charioce has other motivations for doing everything he's doing
And that you know of, of course, because you read the script in advance, and can tell me that I'm wrong. Sure, anon
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>>160451695
He'll probably end up sacrificing himself to finally kill off Bahamut for good.
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>>160458382
This.
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>>160460275
You have to be dumb (not you. in general) to belive that was his primary reason.

He want's to "free" the humanity from fear in general. To do that he has to defeat all who are above mankind. First Demons the eternal enemy of mankind, than Gods who benefitted from this conflict and in the end Bahamut that could destroy the entire world.
There is no point in Destroying Demons and Gods when Bahamut will just awake and destroy humanity anyway. After defeating Demons, he broke the balance between humanity and Gods so naturally they were next. He gained the ancient weapon capable of killing the bahamut allowing humanity to defeat it on it's own. Before that it was possible only with combined powers of all sides. Naturally Neither side wanted the other to posses the weapon so that also perpetuated the status quo of the old system where humanity was exploited by Gods and Demons. He took slaves becouse it was a resonable thing to do and he also needed manpower as he was

Also since Charioce mother was killed by the Bahamut killing it makes it a likely purpose for him. Aside from that he achived independence for humanity.
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I'm completely ignorant about Shingeki no Bahamut but I want to start it because the girl (I suppose the protagonist) and that dude look like a cool couple, character design and animation seem excellent, so, I wanted to know a few things: should I watch Genesis before in order to understand what happens in Virgin Soul? Are the manga related to the anime or can I put them aside for now?
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Im kinda surprised amira hasnt been mentioned yet, especially now that the squad is all back together
Ill be very very sad if amira isnt somewhere towards the end
s-s-surely she didnt really die and she is just.. s-sleeping off the wounds from the fight ;-;

also please post more dressed up nina. im out and not able to torrent 720p
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>>160460922
Genesis is pretty important because some characters are returning and the setting in virgin souls follows genesis. Manga is side story
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>>160460922
>the girl (I suppose the protagonist) and that dude look like a cool couple,
They are not. They are pretty terrible characters and the romance is even worse. Don't waste your time.
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>>160460934
Amira hasn't been mentioned yet because these people don't give a fuck about exploring the old characters beside Jeanne. They get a bare minimum screen time to do some info dump and fuck off to make room for Nina's retarded romance.
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>>160460922
Don't listen to this bitter fag>>160461005, you seem to have good taste, so just follow with it
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>>160460934
Cheerio is gonna try to awaken Bahamut to kill it, only Amira will wake up instead and then Favaro will fuck up everything trying to save her.
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>>160461005
This.
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>>160461114
Nina/Charioce is Twilight tier dude. The shit taste is loving that shit.
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>>160461148
>Cheerio is gonna try to awaken Bahamut
When did this meme start ? Charioce doesn't look happy, nor completely prepared, to take on Bahamut, so why would he try to wake him up ? It's more like the seal is too weak and it can't hold for long anymore

>>160461196
Yeah, yeah, go back to sucking leather barbed cocks, fag
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>>160460922
Watch genesis and then this, yeah.
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>>160444723
Oh cool. Homestuck thread.
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You know what's most grating thing about Nina? She's as much of a psycho as Cheerios. Nothing ever affects her, she feels almost no anger, never any sadness, no real emotions besides cartoony exaggerated shtick. It's always the same mode: genki genki genki. It's starting to grate. The worst part is that she barely felt anything when it came out her chris was a mass murderer. I really starting to want to see her broken, I really want cheerios to bite to so I can see something fucking affect her. So far pretty much nothing ever made an impact on her.
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>>160461405
some people are a bit more emotionally stable than your family, anon
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>>160461405
>wanting Nina to be sad
Why are you such a disgusting piece of shit, anon ?
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>>160461284
He got the ancient weapon to kill it, it was basicly stated. Thing is he couldn't have done it with btfoing Demons and Gods which was a right thing to do in its own right. Humanity needed Gods becouse of Demons and needed both of them becouse of Bahamut could be only defeated by their combined powers.
Even tough They had ancient weapon they would never allow either side to control it. SO in the end humanity was getting fucked by everyone. Charioce basicly destroyed the system that was exploiting humanity.
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>>160460922
You need a severe lack of standards to get into Nina, Cheerios and their "romance".
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>>160461494
She doesn't seem to give a single shit about how much Jeanne, El, Kaisar, Favaro, Azazel... suffered because of Cheerios. She deserve to experience suffering and sadness.
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>17 episodes in
>no clear motivation on either of the designated protagonists
>Cheerios maybe has a motivation but it's a secret~
Why am I supposed to give a fuck about either of those shits? Cheerios is a cunt, I'm not giving him the bebefit of a doubt, and Nina is a boring retard.
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>>160461528
Yeah, I know all that, and ? Charioce probably wants to kill Bahamut, but why he try to wake him up when
>it's explicitly stated that the barrier or whatever doesn't have long
>he doesn't look happy about it
>his super weapon needs repairs and was not even ready to begin with

I'm all in for Charioce VS Bahamut, but he isn't stupid enough to wake him up before he's ready
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>>160461609
The Bahamut Seal is braking
My mom was kileld by the Bahamut
I happen to have a god killing ancient weapon that i am willing to use despite of consequences

MHMMMM WHAT COULD BE HIS MOTIVATION???
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Really looking forward to when Nina demands that Jeanne has to forgive her boytoy.
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>>160461575
>deserves
Who are you to say who deserves to suffer ?
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>>160461664
He isn't trying to wake him up wtf. He was just checking how much time has untill it happens.
He is somewhat awaiting it eagerly as killing the Bahamut put the final nail in the coffin of the old world order.
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>>160461703
I'm 100% expecteing her to attack Azazel when he makes it clear he'll try to kill Cheerios. Perfect ending would be the entire gang taking down both Cheerios and Nina.
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>>160461148
>Cheerio is gonna try to awaken Bahamut to kill it

>>160461783
Now shut the fuck up if you can't read or follow a conversation
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>>160461697
Some hazy shit that's hard to give a fuck about.
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>>160461825
Would be fun, why not.
At least for a few episodes Nina should switch to Cheetos side, before the forced teamup against Bahamut.
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>>160460966
>>160461328
Thank you.
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>>160454810
You can't say it's insanity unless the guy in question is a serial killer.

Even then, most loose women would probably have a one nighter with him...likely with some sort of witness to make sure everything's ok.

A fucking Roman emperor though? The worst thing he's done was technically facilitated by other people and is the inevitable end result of war? Yeah, women would get hot for that.
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>>160456031
Michael died, then came back years later and knocked Jeanne up. How does that even work?
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>>160462638
Stop projecting your wet dreams about roman emperors onto Nina ya dumbass. Literally the only reason she's into him is because he's hot and dances well. Beinf an emperor has fuckall to do with it.
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>>160462837
It certainly doesn't hurt though
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>>160462871
Do you even watch the show?
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>>>160459667
>>AND YET they didn't kill everyone despite hating their fucking guts but enslaved them and took them back with them
Genocide does not only include killing everyone.
In the past and even now, genocide includes enslaving other peoples, raping their women and erasing their genetic bloodline from history, as well as destroying their cultural unity by completely separating their peoples throughout a large empire and forbidding their cultural norms for generations.

Tamerlane and Genghis Khan did wipe out tribes and entire cities that fought too hard against them. The reason those kingdoms and cities completely disappeared is the same way Carthage no longer exists.

You can genocide a civilization without killing everyone, all you have to do is wipe out their cultural unity and heritage.
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>>160444723

She grafted on all the best parts.
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>>160460171
If she's going to die, it will be Charioce's fault. But the show will quickly brush it under the rug. Because fuck everyone else. Only Nina's opinion matters.
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>>160462837
There's a reason Fifty Shades of Gay is the best-selling romance novel. "That" is what women fantasize about above all else, a beast that they can tame, a bad man, high on the dominance hierarchy (an emperor in this case, obscenely wealthy in that particular novel) who would nevertheless never do anything bad to them or their children.

This show's honestly as good as it gets, and I can't think of another anime with a romance as believable as this.
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Is this the greatest love story ever told?
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did they just fuck ?
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>>160463326
You women are crazy. Like really really nuts.
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>>160463520
He did ride her all night long
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>>160462814
He was dead. But his dick clearly wasn't.

I don't know, maybe he knocked her up when they kissed in Genesis and angel pregnancy takes several years to manifest but then goes over instantly.

Hell, we can't even be sure that it was Michael that knocked her up. She was just praying to him, when she suddenly got El.

Who knows! Maybe it was Gabriel with her massive futa cock and some incantation to make Jeanne forget that she got raped.
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>>160463326
>There's a reason Fifty Shades of Gay is the best-selling romance novel
Because it's the only openly pornographic chick novel? seriously, that's its main driving force, so middle aged women can feel like bad girls and get wet while reading the bdsm bits.
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>>160455459
She kissed this man.
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>>160463547
>Anon learns about the world.
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We won't be seeing Chris again will we? I mean why else have him ditch his disguise this episode by trading his glasses and donating his headwrap?
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>>160463686
Pretty sure she had lobotomy somewhere between the prison arc and heaven's place because she doesn't even mention being in thrown into the dungean and left there for dead to him in that scene.
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>>160463673
>Because it's the only openly pornographic chick novel?
You know NOTHING!
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>>160463840
He was Charioce all along.
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>>160463856
A ~trendy~ pornographic "novel."
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I want to see Jeanne alter again and this time she kills Charioce.
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>>160463326
All of that still has nothing to do with Nina.
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>>160463904
Yes but I mean we won't see Charioce in his Chris look ever again.
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>>160463925
It's ~trendy~ because it sells well, you nonce, not the other way around. It wouldn't sell well if the women buying it didn't like what they were reading, and they liked it a LOT.
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Would Rita's insides feel cold if you stuck it in?
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I want to bully this angel.
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>>160464099
It's the bdsm aspect of it you nancy. And the feedback goes both ways.
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>>160464099
women confirmed for shit taste then, because i actually pirated 50 shades of grey back when it came out to see what the hype was about, and it was vanilla as fuck. basically just your usual awful romance novel with a tiny bit of spanking.
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>>160454494
Underrated
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They didn't even have the courtesy to try and bribe the audience with a traumatic childhood. Maybe it's for the best though, that would really be pushing it. At least I can relax that Cheerios is just fucked up on his own.
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>>160464149
room temperature
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>YFW Chris was Charioce all along
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>>160444723
This means moar Rita doujins right?
I need more than 2 or 3.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>160464167
There's a lot of bdsm books with way harsher bdsm in them too, and many of those sold well, like the Gor books, but 50 shades has hardly any of that at all and still outstriped them, because the appeal it has for women has only a little to do with that.
>>160463966
How do you figure? You're asking "how could Nina love a fucking brutal king?" That's the answer, whether or not she's even aware of it.
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>>160464431
le 8d checkers face

He's playing Nina like a damn fiddle, she's probably important for his secret mustard plan
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>>160464431
The next time they meet he will kill her and as she lays dying he will explain his reasoning before giving the killing blow. This will be him killing off the last shred of humanity he has left.
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>>160464496
>How do you figure?
Because she fell for a hot peasant in rugs who danced well not the king. She never showed any desire to tame any wild animal in him, more like she wishes it was all a facade and the true cheerios is her hot peasant boy. She does not desire a man like cheerios.
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>>160463520
CG dragons
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>>160464534
>>160464501
>>160464431
A reminder.
>“He is a calculating king who is willing to resort to any measure as long as it fits his goal.”
>any measure as long as it fits his goal
>ANY MEASURE
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>>160464721
he's got a point there, nina has been all about that face from the beginning, no matter if handsome knight or handsome craftsman
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>>160464929
That has nothing to do with being a sadistic domineering dickhead. She's got hots for Kaisar and guess what, he's nothing of the type. Face is just a face.
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>>160464855
>any measure as long as it fits his goal
>outright told nina that she makes him waver from it
boi
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>>160465087
That in itself was a measure.
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>>160465087
He didn't sound very happy about it though. It could be that he was testing himself, wether he can withstand the temptation of giving in and giving up on his goal. That last face would have you believe that he passed the test.
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RIP Cherryboy x Nina shippers.
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I bet that once they reveal Cheerios' goal we'll all laugh at it.
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>>160463353
Nah that's Kirei and Gil in F/0.
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What the fuck are they doing with this show.
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>>160465568
I bet it's something like "he needed all this power to stop a calamity from happening" but will make no excuses about killing all the gods and devils.
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>>160465599
cmon everyone and their grandmother saw these two getting it on coming from a mile away
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I'm glad Rita agrees this new, bitter Mugaro is shitty.
I liked him better when he was a happy, smiling mute.
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>>160465643
Because everyone knows the writing has been terrible.
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>>160465713
nothing that ruins your mood like a trip to heaven
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>>160465599
That entire segment was soo over the top, lovey-dovey, mushy, sugary heap of romantic cliches that if a gut punch after this doesn't come I'll have to write this show off as a shitty chick flick.
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>>160465713
Rita is the best, eveything she says is always on point.
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>>160465713
>killing the gods
He needed their tech for whatever he's planning. They attacked him when he wouldn't give it back.

>demons
It seemed like ther were constant assaults from the demons leading up to Bahamut's return. Now that their city has fallen the capital is a better place. Sounds like good kingly behavior to me.
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Bahamut peaked with the first episode of Genesis.
Undisputable fact.
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>>160465904
Well shit, that was meant for >>160465619
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>>160457133

And in exchange gave them divine protection from the Demons through saints like Jeanne.

They also made huge sacrifices to contain Bahamut.
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Will Nina at least temporarily betray Aza and the crew for her new bf?
Because I am not really feeling it for the bahamut rematch and hope they focus on more earthly drama and intrigue for the remaining episodes.
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>>160465643
That's why it's bad. I know they wanted a Romeo and Juliet pairing but this is more like Hitler getting lusty for a Jew while killing her family.
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>>160465066
She has the hots for Kaisar, but it resembles absolutely nothing like the affection she's shown Cheerios, especially in this episode.
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>>160465713
Even though he's an angsty little bitch now I actually still found him more annoying as a smiling mute.
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>>160466273
Because blah blah blah FATE blah blah blah true love at first sight bullshit writing duh.
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Charioce is my favorite character
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The soccer game was so cute
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>>160465399
I literally can't understand this guy
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>>160466443
I can't fucking stand this remorseless piece of shit.
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>>160466245
>Hitler getting lusty for a Jew while killing her family
And you tell me you wouldn't watch that?
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>>160466430
>Because blah blah blah FATE blah blah blah true love at first sight bullshit writing duh.
Oh yeah, it's actually the love at first sight angle they're trying to push here. Remember the arm wrestling scene? Nina already knew then she'd have the hots for Charioce. Some next level bullshit writing.
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>>160466493
t. moralfag

strength is it's own justification.
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>>160466494
Why do people keep comparing Charioce with Hitler?

The demons weren't trying to destroy the human kingdom
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>>160466494
Not sugarcoated and served as a disney romance fairytale. Shown in all of its morbid reality? Sure.
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T'WAS LUCIFER THAT MADE A DRAGON SO MUCH STRONGER THAN A MAAAAN.
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>>160466571
Genocide on two counts, so he's more like double hitler.
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>>160466691
What genocide? The demons are slaves or live in their own cities or live in the slums. The angels attacked humanity.

Given that the demons were killing humans to the point we needed Gods protection this is getting off easy
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>>160466493
I still can't stop keking form the cringe at these scenes. I bet I was expected to be glad and happy to see the True Face of Cheerios but really I'm just bewildered.
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>>160466764
So you forgot the part in episode 1 where he invaded heaven huh?
And somehow slavery is okay with you?
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>Implying Hitler did anything wrong
>Implying Charioce did anything wrong
>Implying the holocaust happened
>Implying the demonocaust happened
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>>160466779
There's no way they want you to sympathize with him. I'm sure the message is to make you frustrated at Nina. There's no other explanation than "Charioce is manipulating Nina like everyone else."
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>>160466826
You're not allowed to use this reaction pic. gtfo
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>>160466796
He took the technology that heaven was hording that was the only way to defeat the Gods.

He did not genocide heaven

also
>Slavery is okay with you
Demons are not humans, do you consider Domesticated pets to be slavery? Even above that it's free labor
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>>160466826
Who's that girl? What's she from?
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>>160466905
forgettable cardboard character from the first series
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>>160465927
>he didn't like the dance scene or the rest of the night on the town with Amira
The only thing that could keep the first episode ahead of it is animation quality and fights.
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>>160444723
why does she look so sad?
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/r/ someone shop Braev Lee to look like Charioce.
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>>160467006
Because she's been working her ass off for a whole week trying to rescue Kaisar and Azazel while Nina enjoyed her stay in Heaven.
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>>160467006
Still not noticed by Kaisar
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>>160467069
And Kaisar still hasn't checked out her slutty demon outfit.
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>>160463568
I think they are assuming that people are familar enough with how Jesus was born and simply don't question it. Alternatively it was Sofiel. She seems really into Jeanne.
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>>160466779
>tfw Charioce is a straight up alpha male and the beta cucks on /a/ can't handle it
Are you angry you can't self-insert because he isn't a fat, virgin dweeb? Welcome to the real world, jackass.
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>>160463568
We've been over this. After Jeanne fell to earth she was unconscious and got knocked up by a horny desperate angel.
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>>160467130
She should get a Favaro cosplay then
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>>160467224
>Rita puts on an afro.
>Kaisar suddenly gets flustered and blushes around her.
Make it happen.
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>>160465927
Very disputable as episodes 2 and 3 are better overall at setting up the mood and are overall more engaging.
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>>160467200
Nice projection aspie.
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I can't even find her arousing anymore knowing she's in love with such a shitty person.
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>>160467442
But anon, you've known that for the entire run.
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>>160464855
>mutilating children is part of his plan
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I can't believe Nina killed that blue haired demon after she kissed Chris.
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>>160461284

I thought Charioce was the avatar of Bahamut.

How else could he inconspicuously show up right after the defeat of Bahamut and rape the Angels/Demons in such a short amount of time?
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>>160467442
>Shitty person
Charioce is a great person, fucking lefty
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>>160467669
not too likely, but still in the ballpark I'd assume
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>>160444723
Is this Teen Titans?
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>>160466494
Remember the hot nazi guy from Schindwhatever film that had the hots for the jewish woman who was terrified of him and hated him and the.horny fat women who watched the film and wrote hundreds of lovey dovey fanfics? You are those women.
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>>160467200
Alpha males are what prevents the world from being a good place studies show. Also you're doing it wrong you moron, you're supposed to self insert as Nina and pretend Charioce fucks you like the hag writer intended it to be done.
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>>160467885
Nigga I don't write fanfiction because I am not some tumblr faggot.

All I am saying is, give it a chance to tell its own story instead of being upset that its not telling you the story you were expecting.
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>>160467683
t. fujoshit
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>>160467947
Now this is some serious commie bullshit right here. Someone's gonna be on the top no matter what you do, friendo. And it's never gonna be you with that attitude.
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>>160467683
>fucking lefty
Why do /pol/tards need to bring politics into everything?
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>nobody remembers the most heroic character from Genesis
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>>160468101
>The lesson from the baboons is that when the social distance between higher and lower status mammals in a group are reduced, and steps are taken to keep the distance smaller, higher status members are less likely to act like jerks.
>Human leaders can use this lesson to avoid turning into mean, selfish, and insensitive jerks too. Despite all the trappings, some leaders do remain attuned to how people around them are really feeling, to what their employees really believe about how the organization is ran, and to what customers really think about their company’s products and services. As “The Garbage Dump Troop” teaches us, the key thing these leaders do is to take potent, and constant, steps that dampen rather amplify the power differences between themselves and others (both inside and outside the company).
>http://bobsutton.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/11/the-baboon-troop-that-mellowed-out-after-the-alpha-males-died-the-sapolsky-and-share-study.html

Deal with it, baboon.
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>>160456289
Heh, you are alright.
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>>160466885
We live in a world were animal abuse is illegal in civilized societies. And you are expecting people to accept that enslaving and abusing a sapient species is totally okay. Good luck with that.
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>>160467200
>Churro
>not a virgin
Choose one.
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>>160468309
If the sapient species very existence was just to kill and cause terror, nevermind we freed the blacks
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>>160468309
There's no point talking with cheeriosfag 4channers, they're literal savages that would find themselves much better in the jungle.
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>>160468118
If it wasn't for the horse, the world wouldn't have been saved because Favaro would have permanently ditched Amira.
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>>160468468
Best horse. Hope he lived a long, fulfilling life and got some horsepussy.
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>>160468268
This looks like one of the dumbest studies ever.
Humanity has never moved forward because of equality. Competition and jackasses do.
As much as I am loathe to think that way, human history is replete with examples of this way.
There were matriarchal societies that acted otherwise in Anatolia and North America and they've all been wiped out.
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>>160468669
>Humanity has never moved forward because of equality. Competition and jackasses do.
Source: your fat ass.
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>>160468105
>>160468016
Cheerios is doing what is best for humanity and has led humanity to a golden age and yet you scorn the man for looking after humanity and giving them a life of luxury. You'd rather be subjugated and killed then be free

Sad
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>>160468309
>animal abuse is illegal in civilized societies
so you're calling every single country outside of the US, Canada, and Western Europe as uncivilized, anon?
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>>160468422
Yeah man, those little starving demon kids sure look inherently evil
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>>160468669
Do you really think you're correct when the only valuable piece of evidence you have is your short life spent watching anime and watching everyone else?
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>>160468720
Read world history.
I have never read an empire that was run by non-competitive fucks that wasn't eventually ran into the ground by a more alpha and competitive empire or civilization.

China became so non-competitive during the Qing Dynasty, it got raped by Europe, US and Japan in the 1800s.
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>>160468843
Give them food and they try to kill you. Sympathy is for the devil; judgement is for god; empathy for man.

History shall not be ignored
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>>160468880
Refer to >>160468901
I studied quite a bit of history during university. I had access to a large library when I was 10 before the internet was even a thing. Fuck off.
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Bahamut threads have become so philosophical lately.
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>>160468978
Not an argument
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>>160468901
>empire
In the end they all fall anyway because they all end up killing each other and the cycle repeats. Good luck having a stable civilization with our current level of destructive technology and being alfa comtetitive. By the way, all of your history books are being written with a cognitive bias. The psychos at the top always want you to believe that this is the way it is and has to be forever.
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>>160469093
And there are still 2 weeks to go.
By the end we will probably have the Charioce Nazi party waging a bitter thread war against the treehugging zazelfags.
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>>160469129
>being well-versed in human history from the classical era to modern history, even how world governments are run and have been formed today is not an argument
Not everybody who goes to /a/ are 19 year old college freshmen who got held back a couple of grades because of magic mushrooms.
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>>160469193
It's not simply empires. Civilizations of all types that don't compete, get fucked in the end. Natural resources are not infinite. Wasn't infinite in the past (which caused civilizational collapse, mass migration/invasion waves, and famine driven wars), certainly isn't infinite right now.
People who were simply content all got driven out of the pages of history.

This isn't a matter of Charioce being right or wrong, it's a bunch of social activists trying to say that jerkasses don't move humanity forward. They do, because when shit hits the proverbial fan, most people can only follow, not lead. And most of the time, it's only complete shitheads that have the balls to get people to line up and march to their own survival.
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>>160469254
Azazelfags are treehuggers? Did they forget what he was in season 1?
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>>160469259
>classical era to modern history, even how world governments are run and have been formed today is not an argument
That wasn't even the point of the argument. The point is that all those reigns sucked and the Earth is a horrible place to live as a result.
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>>160469519
he has gotten soft, being a surrogate father for el and all that.
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>>160469552
Read >>160469452

The Earth IS a horrible place to live in, because there isn't enough shit for everyone in the first place.

Your posting of a fucking stupid article about baboons turning into pseudo-potheads that think they can just live like that forever and apply it to everyone else is fucking stupid.

The only way these civilizations have survived during their times, and how humanity has progressed right now is the sum result of jackasses leading unmovitated people to save their asses from how brutal Earth is.
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>>160469452
Being a good leader =/= being a despote baboon who doesn't let other take a bite out of the dumpster
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>>160454494
>Niño
KEK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0kk3nHCSUk
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>>160469737
>because there isn't enough shit for everyone in the first place.
Lol. There IS enough shit for everyone, it's the greed and concentration of wealkt in the hands of few man. Read about food waste in Murrica.
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>>160469931
wealth*
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>>160468788
>Spics, niggers, sandniggers, curryniggers, chinks
>uncivilized
That's correct.
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>>160470071
>spics
Spain has ten times better animal healthcare than germany.
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>>160469772
>this fucker used a baboon article to imply that jackasses and egomaniac alphas only cause horrifying shit without understanding that it's those same assholes that move the world to progress
Yeah, when the alpha went out, everything just mellowed out. The study implied that if that was applied to human leadership, everything would be better.
But that goes against almost all of human history.
>>160469931
No, there isn't enough. Food waste is a thing, but that isn't all that's there that humans want.
Think about your computers, about all your clothes, the size of your house, just about everything that you have, and then try to apply that to every person in the world.

Then you have to think about that other parts of the world require more energy and resources to make those things function (huge distances, temperature, presence of dust particulates, humidity, soil quality and nutrients, etc) and then you'll understand that there isn't enough shit for everyone.

This was especially the case during the premodern era. The fucking corn you eat didn't have that much corn during the fucking 100 AD in most of the world. So did other farm staples. Humans just built them up from much smaller producing plants.
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>>160470134
>Spain better animal healthcare
>country that kills bulls with fencing swords for sport
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>>160445139
Who is this guy supposed to be?
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>>160470134
>bull dies in agony after ramming a wooden post at a Spanish fiesta where organisers strapped burning torches to its horns
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>>160470274
It's true though. You're much more likely to get a good treatment for your pet in spain than in germany where they will mostly advise you to put it to sleep.
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Isnt Maguro a girl though? And isnt D'Arc's real child the king?
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>>160470274
We also throw goats from church towers for fun.
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>>160470195
>those same assholes that move the world to progress
Nah, progress is made by people with equal access to education. At some point you'll need innovation to move the world forward and let me tell you, toxic rivalry in the science community does not help but destroyes. Not to mention all the minds that could help overcome all those problems which get wasted due to war. Do you think history only happens on the battle field? Please stay out of my world you violent psycho.
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>>160470693
War has brought in tons of innovations on vehicles alone and communication devices alone, and the cold war rivalry and the race to space advanced technology by leaps and bounds. People need motivation to drive them to invent, and national security and money are prime motivators.
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>>160470693
>Nah, progress is made by people with equal access to education
There has never been equal access to education throughout human history. Not in the past, and not today. There's a reason why rich countries are the most modernized and have most research ongoing today.
It's not because you can go to some university in Southeast Asia or the Polynesian islands.

>he thinks history doesn't happen on the battlefield
Universal healthcare was developed for the purpose of war.
Nuclear technology was developed for the purpose of war.
Just about every single high technology piece of software and hardware in your house you have right now was developed for the purpose of winning an apocalyptic war against the Soviets during the Space Race.

What you're spouting is pure idealism bullshit that will make historians and real scientists (not social pseudoscientists) laugh. This world is not some happy-happy, fun-fun peace world.
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>>160470693
This post feels like it was made by someone who just entered college.
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I think both have good arguments.
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>>160470071
>>160468309
Any country that eats meat on a regular basis is a society that abuses animals. Don't kid yourself.
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>>160471066
You're really anive. You don't have an idea how many patents are withdrawn and kept hostage by the military that hold the world back. Free energy already exists but the fuckers will not release it because they need the control over the world which the political oil situation provides.
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>>160470487
How is the king Jeanne's real kid? That doesn't even make sense. We saw Mugaro be born from Jeanne.
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>hating on a Disney-esque romance scene between a dragon and medieval fantasy Hitler
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>>160471351
Idk im going full retard right now but I swear Maguro was a girl everyone thought was a guy
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>>160471474
Don't bother anon. Nobody here can appreciate good things. This is why they can't have them.
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>>160471609
Romance powered by bullshit writing is not a good thing.
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>>160471474
Hey look they're giving me shit shaped like a cake! It tastes like shit but it looks like cake so it must be cake!
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>>160471810
I don't watch Bahamut for the writing, it's shit, much like every tabletop rpg story. But it's still fun as hell as long as you just go along with whatever happens. Just like in real life. Except Bahamut is really pretty to look at too.
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>>160470693
>Nah, progress is made by people with equal access to education
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>>160472067
>it's fun! Just turn off your brain and stare blankly at the screen, you know it's like being dead for an hour but you're eating popcorn
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>>160471810
It's not bullshit writing. Nina is a character literally powered by her emotions. She's uber susceptible to the looks of men and how they make her feel, and men are very much her kryptonite. Cheerio is not only good-looking and charming, but he's the only handsome guy who can get close and intimate with her with her going dragon. She's compelled by all these things and is incredibly curious about what all these feelings mean. She even spelled that out in the episode that she can't figure out his paradoxical nature, which makes her even more curious.

I don't know about the King himself and where his true motives lay. He might be sincere in his emotional conflict, which would be consistent with his behavior and just generally more interesting than being a 4D chess medieval hitler.
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>>160472220
now you are just acting like a total retard
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>>160472270
The most fitting answer for that is unironically, no you are.
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>>160472067
Season 1 was fantastic though.
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>>160472344
No it really wasn't. Amira made me drop it midway. It's a miracle I'm watching Virgin Souls. To think Amira almost made me miss out on that just by existing
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>>160472774
> Amira made me drop it midway
Kill yourself.
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>>160472260
STOP EXPLAINING NINA'S CHARACTER TOO ME. She's an uninteresting shit character no matter how hard you try to twist this. There's such disregard to how she's being written there isn't even any continuity to her character """developement""""". Why the fuck is she still blushing at Kaisar? Wasn't love for cheerios supposed to cure that?

>It's not bullshit writing. Nina is a character literally powered by her emotions.
Only one specific emotion: lust for Charioce. There is nothing else in there. Null, zero, nada. She doesn't know the feeling of love for her friends, loyalty, compassion, empathy. Everything in this Cheerios dilemma is about HER and him, there is not a single thought about other people in her life. The moment these pople come out of her sight they drop off from her heart, especially when cheerios comes into play. Shes a horribly sellfish human being. It's not even that she's a bad person, she's just an incomplete human being. If she isn't able to relate something cheerios did to her (But he's nice to me! How can he be a bad person?) then it suddenly doesn't matter.

> She's uber susceptible to the looks of men and how they make her feel, and men are very much her kryptonite.
Forgive if I don't find this either cute, likeable or sympathetic, let alone interesting. It's a shitty and very superficial trait that makes up for most of her personality to make things worse. Nina is a cluster of shitty tropes and character cliches, there's nothing to her beside being cute. She is inconsistent, has no inner values, doesn't understand shit what's happening around her and she doesn't even try because she's constantly in cheeriosland with her thoughts. And that just makes her utterly boring. Her character has been entirely canibalized by her shitty romantic plot.
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>>160471810
>bullshit writing
>a female falling for a random bad boy and then wanting to save him when she finds out about his dirty secret is "bullshit"
m8, I've got news for you.
If she's lower or middle class, she's not going to want your dick that hard unless you've been in a barfight before and you're kind of a dick.
If she's upper class, she won't fuck you unless you have a criminal record, missing teeth, and substance problem.

There's literally nothing bullshit about their romance from either side. They're both extremely desirable representatives of their sexes.
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>>160473074
autism, the post
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>>160472774
Oh fuck off. Seeing how hard you're trying to suck Virgin Soul's dick to justify your shit taste is amazing. Amira shits on Nina in every single aspect, and her half assed "romance" with Favaro is leagues above the forced shit between Nina and Charioce. The fact that you actually think that Virgin Soul at this point can even come close to Genesis is pure delusion.
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>>160473139
Not an argument.
It's easy to say "This aspect of this thing is shit!" without providing any arguments for why it's shit. It shits up the thread though.
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>>160473467
>It shits up the thread though.
Use this advice and stop shitting up the thread with your irrelevant blog posts about how you can't get pussy.
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Name a more powerful human mother, I'll wait.
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>>160473210
Oh please, Amira is little else but an outlet for pedo fantasies made acceptable by her residing in a fully grown body. Unlike her Nina actually feels like a real girl.
Sure Charioce doesn't hold a candle to Favaro as a character but I least his romance with Nina has merit in that it doesn't make me feel like puking.
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>>160473525
>Anyone who says the world isn't a fucking Disney movie is just a bitter virgin.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with what I'm describing. It has nothing to do with my life (though I have observed this, repeatedly).
Why should anyone want to fuck a pussy? Yeah, you can be a sweet guy, but if you're a pushover they fucking smell it on you.
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>>160473693
But it makes ME feel like puking. Worst love story since Comet Lucifer.
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>>160473823
Nobody cares, this thread just isn't the place for your bleeding heart.
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>>160473693
>his romance with Nina has merit
>sloppy fanservice garbage
Top kek.
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>>160473693
>amira
>pedo fantasies
So you either didn't watch S1 or are just making shit up since if you actually watched it you would know that the whole five year old thing was a lie. But please, keep making yourself look like a fucking idiot. And the fact that you thin Nina feels like a "real girl" shows how fucking retarded you are.
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>>160472774
>Amira made me drop it midway
What a fucking faggot.
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>>160473894
Why is someone who can't read trying to engage in any sort of criticism on media?
Goddamn. Fuck off and get a hold of your case worker already.
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>>160473986
TOP FUCKING KEK. You're not criticising any media you retard, you can't even stay in context of this being a scripted fiction. Your whole argument is some worthless 3DPD pseudo equivalence. You want to talk media? Talk about media not your life.
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>>160469129
based
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>>160454494
fucking based
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>>160465399
>>160464431
His goons seem to think he's under her "spell" though.
It would be ironic if they spoilt whatever plan Cheerio is trying to enact.
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>Beginning of Virgin Soul
>Anons defending Cheerios and hating on demons since they were responsible for killing humans mercilessly
>Now
>Anons hating on Cheerios for hurting the poor demons

What happened?
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>>160475198
I always hated Cheerios, he's a monster. Demons did nothing wrong (this season).
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>>160475198
Anime attracts the worst kind of person, even though it often shows utter contempt for that kind of person.
A liberal.
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how big are nina's ninas
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>>160475290
Did you miss the Jeanne flashback about how she functioned without her magic powers?
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I haven't watched the show since everyone was thrown in prison and I need motivation to catch up. Has Cerberus shown up again?
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>>160476460
>I need motivation to catch up
Look at the OP image again.
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>>160477014
In case it wasn't obvious, I'm not into lolis.
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>>160473049
Kill yourself.
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>>160466473
THIS. His personality is a fucking mess.
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>>160477211
Get the fuck off my board
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>We just want more Favaro, Kaisar and Rita adventures.
>Instead we have a literal retard falling in love with hitler.
>Also Mugaro is not cute anymore
I loved Genesis and the overall artstyle of this series but this is a fucking mess and i hate it.
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Is Charioce the most Hitler anime character since Gihren Zabi? 卍
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>>160478217
>>Also Mugaro is not cute anymore
Too far. He's not as cute, but he's still cute as fuck.
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>>160444723
She sucks.
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>>160456031
D'arc Jeannu is hot.
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>>160478480
The angel wings and clothes are cute, i'll give you that, but his angsty personality is starting to piss me off.
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>>160478752
He'll calm down once Azazel and Lucifer adopt him and become his two new daddys.
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Shinku no Bahamut TWIN HEADS Volume 1 released today! It will be a story between 1st and 2nd period of animation. Moreover, episodes of Rita are also included in the drawing (· ◡ ·)

https://twitter.com/Ryota_H/status/890844920310673409
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>>160446347

I guess they probably thought that if they dressed as high class demons they wouldn't be accosted by people as much as the peasant demons would be.

>>160447406

To be honest, I thought she was going to be able to control it after Cheerios touched her dragon form with his bare hand before.
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>>160447977

Honestly I'm okay with this. The feeling of unease during this whole episode is just making me worry as to whats going to happen in the next one to fuck everything up.
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>>160460297

> mfw Nina looks really good with blue hair and I wish it was always that color

Feels like such a waste
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>>160472774
Glad I'm not the only one I much prefer this season overall.
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Did Cheerios pick that necklace because it looked kinda like this?
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>>160475198
reminder cheerios doesn't want to do it, but he must.

to bring his dead mommy back from the world of the dead
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>>160466473
What is so hard to understand? Did you think he was gonna tell his lackey "no leave it alone it's my girlfriend"?
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>>160444723
you fools do realise that the king is just using nina? It's all an act.
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>>160483746

> mfw if it was actually all Cheerios's plan, but the onyx knight captain acts anyway and fucks everything up
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>>160462960
Sorry but genocide means the deliberate extermination of a group following religious, ethnical or political criteria. Enslaving people and raping their women doesn't "erase their genetic bloodline", quite the contrary
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>>160466473
>this is the kind of retard you watch this show with
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>>160473594
I like Jeanne, but I don't know how I feel about her leading Sofiel on.
All I'm saying is she'd better put out at the end of this.
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>>160480784
20-page Rita gaiden as a tankoubon bonus. Ryota-H holds the fort for Genesis cast shenanigans.
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>>160455058
this needs a sombrero.
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>>160482817
I'm not sure how. I marathoned the original and Virgin Soul and in general it's significantly less entertaining.

Nina and the King's romance is a complete mess, Nina is a much less entertaining lead than Favaro, Nina is worthless for almost the entire first cour and is really only there as an excuse to have a dragon come in and change the tide of battles, the fights are worse and the setting being locked down to one city for so long was just awful.

Honestly, looking back a lot of my issues with Virgin Soul are literally just Nina. She should have just been replaced with a pet dragon that grows or something and they should have made Kaisar the MC. The plot would still virtually be the same and likely better since they wouldn't have to focus on this shitty romance.
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>>160458973

Squishy.
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>>160465713
>I liked him better when he was a happy, smiling mute

Azazel waifu Mugaro was a miracle of the universe.
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>>160451617
I feel like silent El is completely different from speaking El. And I don't like speaking El. He never says anything intelligent, they're just shitting all over him.
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>>160455301
He doesn't really give a shit about demons or angels or actively hating them. He just enslaves them because it's useful. It's not that retarded.
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Is it bad that I'm enjoying the dumb romance shit? I get that VS has a much more meandering cast than Genesis did, but I enjoy the interactions anyway.

It's nice to get some cringey sweet content once in a while, IMO.
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>>160489211
No I'm with you, I love VS and the characters
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>>160444723
Ew
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>>160472774
Amira was shit but the rest was great.
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>>160473946
>the whole five year old thing was a lie

You do realize that Amira is actually just a few months old if not less making the whole pedo angle even more of a thing, right?
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>If Favaro was looking the whole time
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>>160473946
>b-but the plot resolved that at the end of the series! she's really an adult
Don't kid yourself, my argument stills holds because she spent 90% of the series as a womanchild. If you just wanna win the argument just come straight out and say "so what? I like my pedoshit in 2D". Don't try to argue that Amira isn't pedowaifu bait for insecure virgins and purityfags.
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>>160489211
>it's nice to get some cringey sweet content once in a while, IMO
My feelings exactly, I appreciate a straight Disney romance once in a while. Charioce being literally Hitler is just the saesoning.
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>>160490474
She acts too offputting to be pedowaifu. Not because I think so but because she has like 3 fans.
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>>160488573
This changes nothing.
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>Azazel will win the Ninabowl
Remember those times? I wonder where they all went.
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>>160490737
Hilarious back then, hilarious now
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>>160490737
Doubt anyone who was there since S1 thought that. Just the otomefags who joined since VS.
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>>160490737
Azazel really dodged a bullet there.
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Ep. 5
>I trailed my path to the throne with slaughter
Ep. 17
>I was invited to the palace

What's up with the retcon? Are they not going to own up to all the edgy shit they established about cheerios because of this romance?
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>>160482892
My guess is it's like the continuity of what started at ep 6 only this time it's a solid object that's not gonna rot in a few days. SYMBOLISM. Which means cheerios most likely is not rusing Nina.
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>>160490940

Did he say he was invited? I figured that after bahamut the royal line was deminished so even though Charioce was basically a commoner, he still had royal blood and was brought in.

Regardless, being brought there doesn't necessarily mean he immediately became king without any troubles, I'm sure even outside whatever royal family there is left, there would have been people who wouldn't want a commoner to take the throne
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>>160489211
There's a good reason why not even Disney does that shtick anymore. Nobody wants to see cookie cutter bullshit romance anymore. Nobody complained Moana didn't have a love interest.

>>160490500
If cheerios being hitler is supposed to spice it up then why is it still so bland?

>>160488573
The what's the point of that scene? To show everybody cheerios can play with the kids because he doesn't really give a shit about anything? Are they so advanced in their cheerios wankery they just wanted to make him look cool by being better at socker than literal five year olds?

>>160491348
>Did he say he was invited?
Yes.
> I figured that after bahamut the royal line was deminished so even though Charioce was basically a commoner, he still had royal blood and was brought in.
In ep 5 he literally says he killed off all the competition to the throne.
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>>160491717
He probably got invited to the palace after slaughtering all the other claimants. He said he was the bastard of some peasant woman, so it makes sense he'd have to kill a bunch of people before he became the next in line.
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>>160491717

Could be that he was invited because the other claimants to the royal line were so few, then he got rid of them? And "competition" could also just mean high nobility that didn't want a commoner on the throne, like I said.

>>160491717

> The what's the point of that scene?

Probably to make us and Nina confused as to why he subjugates demons even though he is clearly aware of their potential innocence as well as their 'humanity' so to speak.
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>>160491948
>He probably got invited to the palace after slaughtering all the other claimants.
Then why didn't he tell it to Nina? Why does Nina and Kaisar get two different versions of the story. Kaisar's version implies he used the post Bahamut chaos to get rid of the other heirs and seize the throne for himself. Nina version implies it's Bahamut who took care of all the other heirs and he just walked in to fill in the spot.
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>>160491717

> Nobody wants to see cookie cutter bullshit romance anymore.

How exactly is Nina/Charioce cookie cutter? She's a girl who can transform into a goddamn dragon and he's a prince who has subjugated and enslaved other races in order to complete some yet unknown plan.

The romance itself may feel straightforward ((which is partly why I like it)) but the circumstances for both of them are pretty weird.
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>>160491717

> Nobody complained Moana didn't have a love interest.

No one complained about Anna/Kristoff either, even though they barely spent any time together and had basically no chemistry.
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>>160492519
If Charioce pulls a Hans I'm killing somebody
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>>160485530
El deserves a second mommy
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>>160492270
>How exactly is Nina/Charioce cookie cutter?
It exhausts basically every basic shoujo cliche known to man.

>She's a girl who can transform into a goddamn dragon and he's a prince who has subjugated and enslaved other races in order to complete some yet unknown plan.
None of that surface level gimmicky bedazzle affects the relationship in any meaningful way anyway.
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>>160492584

That would be pretty crazy
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>>160492584
You mean if Cheerios does the only thing that could save the plot and his character from being completele shlock? Damn. It's as if having absolute plebian taste was a prerequisite to become a shipper of this thing.
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>>160492673

> None of that surface level gimmicky bedazzle affects the relationship in any meaningful way anyway.

Except for the fact that Charioce's long term plan is literally the only reason they can't be together like normal people?

And, again, the parts of it that are straightforward romance are actually pretty refreshing in terms of anime, honestly for their relationship to have progress and be shown as clearly as it is is actually kind of refreshing, has a honest innocent feeling, which I imagine is what they're going for as a comparison to the "the world is pretty horrible right now because of the shit ive done" stuff that's been going on.
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Just think a dragon-kin could be humanities next king
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>>160492801

> Bahamut season 3 has a royal half dragon

I'd watch it
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>he cant have a gf because he is one of the meanie bad guys

Thats a whole new level of stupidity
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>>160483746
Is Charioce real and Chris just an act to use Nina? Is Chris real and Charioce just an act to achieve an unknown goal to ensure humanities future? Or are the both the real deal, two sides of a conflicted personality?
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>>160492782
>for their relationship to have progress
Progress what progress? You mean them not sharing a single normal conversation for 16 episodes? And even after they do get a chance to talk cheerios still holds back everything vital to this relationship from her? There is no progress with this thing. There's long pauses of no interaction, and when there is interaction, it's msotly a variety of shoujo cliches being dumped at once. They don't even freaking act in character during those scenes. Cheerios goes into "overdramatic shoujo love interest mode" and Nina switches into "timid lovestruck shoujo protagonist" mode. This is the antithesis of "refreshing" it's regurgitation of the most trite shoujo shlock.
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>>160492956
jesus anon try to lessen that downer attitude, will you?
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>>160493014
Then go and have fun in the mud.
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>>160492956

> Progress what progress

Them clearly conveying their feelings for each other?
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>>160492944
Is Nina just a dragon wanting to get laid?
Or does Nina feel responsible to get involved in the struggle of her friends?
Or maybe both?

Its almost like there is a conflict of sorts imminent, but I better sperg out and act like this was the final episode.
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>>160492888
>being this fucking stupid
Do you not understand why people don't like this development? Are you really that retarded? God these threads are so fucking shit, I swear the ones who are defending this writing come straight from tumblr defending their shitty romance and then crying when called out. I miss Genesis threads.
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Also, where the fuck was Favaro?
The entire episode I assumed he'd be tailing them and he'd barge into the most romantic moment.
I fully expected Charioce to start pouring his heart out to Nina, before Fava decks him with a folding chair from behind and steals his bracelet.
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>>160493099

> Why don't people just have a horrible time hating a show like I do?

It's one thing if you like hating the show or something, if you think these threads are so shit why even browse them?
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>>160493123
He watched the whole thing and when Nina sneaks back in from her secret date, they will have a family intervention with Kaisar as the melodramatic mother, Favaro as the stern father and Rita making snarky comments regarding her possibly lost innocence.
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>>160492956
You don't need progress with Love At First Sight trope anon. This is a zero point energy romance. It propels itself independantly of any character and story progression. Even if all of Nina's friends dropped dead at his hands she'd still fall in his arms to the sounds of harp, and cheerios was basically a changed man the moment she dropped those peppers.
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>>160493180

I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

Though really I was expecting Nina to go for the bracelet at one point during their date anyway.
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>>160492519
>No one complained about Anna/Kristoff either
Because nobody cared.
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He wasn't wearing the bracelet, he had bandages covering the burn marks from using it.
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>>160493298
He had bandages covering the bracelet.
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>>160493298

Pretty sure he still had the bracelet on under that.

Seems like he was only using the bandages to either partially hide his fucked up wrist and/or to make it so that people couldn't recognise him like the pimp slaver did.
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>>160493407
The pimp slaver didn't recognize him, he probably just figured he was an onyx knight off duty.
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>>160493448

Either way, makes sense to cover it up.
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>>160492838
>half dragon
Nina is a halfbreed too. Dragon genes seem to be dominant, so he/she would be just a straight-up dragonkin.
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>>160493562

Eh, even with a full dragon/human pairing it seems to end up making someone like Nina, so it'd probably be the same.

Though I still don't get why her dragon form is apparently overtly powerful or why she was the only one in her village who couldn't transform at will since childhood.
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>>160493611
>why she was the only one in her village who couldn't transform at will since childhood.
Did you skip the episode where her mother tells Jeanne that it's probably due to the trauma she suffered when her father died?
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>>160493611
>her dragon form is apparently overtly powerful
Oh for fuck's sake, we don't know that! She was never shown side-by-side with other dragons of her age, we have no idea how powerful they are!
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>>160493671

Guess I just have shitty memory, whoops
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>>160493047
You mean the vapid indilgence for the shippers? Give me a break man.
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>>160493737

Settle down anon, people can enjoy simple romances if they want to
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>>160493813
Apparently it's not that simple since he's still a genocidal cunt who's justifies himself because his mommy died and tries to kill all of Nina's friends and all.
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Can I start laughing at Cheerios now? Because seriously that mom thing is just hilariously pathetic.
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>>160493987
What? That he's sad that she died?

Having tragic parental losses seems pretty par for the course in this series
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>>160493987
You need to be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan.
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>>160494137
See yourself out then.
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>>160494133
It;s more about how this lame ass lackluster motivation is supposed to win him over and make him "sympathetic" the the audience and Nina.
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>>160494300
Eh, if he was raised single handedly while also enduring poverty, it makes sense that he'd grow so artsy he'd to his mother, then being given the oppertunity to gain power to potentially destroy bahamut or whatever the fuck he's planning to do would also make sense with her as a motivation.

I wouldn't say that it's not cliched, but this series in general isn't above that kind of simplistic emotional motivation.
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>>160494430
*so attatched to his mother, damn phone posting
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>>160494300
Anoher thing is introducing the personal element with the possibility of some personal vendetta, which puts a dent on the pure "for the people" motivation. At this point even Azazel seems more purely motivated for the sake his people than Cheerios.
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Cheerios apologist are either /pol/tards or literal faggots who feel lust for him. Prove me wrong you can't.
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>>160494648
>literal faggots
More like women. A faggot would want to fuck him but he wouldn't justify his actions.
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>>160494498
Just because his mothers death turned him to action doesn't mean he has no motivation to protect his people. It's comparable to someone losing a family member to a disease then becoming a fundraiser for research, that kind of 'I had to go through this loss so I want to make it so others don't have to' thing
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>>160494648
I don't think anyone's saying he hasn't done horrible things that can't be justified, just that he has motivations beyond 'hur dur fuck demons and gods humanity #1'
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>>160494803
I hope ha has pretty good "motivations" to justify the enslavement of a whole race.
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>>160494648
>he wouldn't bend over and let Charioce fuck him on spot
No homo
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