Thinking of getting into the fate series sometime in the near

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Don't listen to any try hards here. If you want to watch it casually go:
Fate/Zero (2 seasons) > Fate/ Stay night: ultimate blade works (2 seasons) and wait for Fate/Stay night heavens feel movie series that will start this year.
Then if you are interested in the universe watch/read/play other shit.
Note: Do not watch "Fate/Stay Night" make sure its "Fate/ Stay Night: Ultimate Blade Works"

How big is your bullshit tolerance?
How many layers of plot armor can you endure?

>>160398643
this is objectively correct

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>>160398371
Read the fucking VN.
Starting with Zero is the worst thing you can do.

>>160398371
Avoid the chuunishit

Start with Zero.
Stop afterwards.

>>160398371
You really shouldn't. You're not missing out on anything.

>>160398643
>>160398728
Samefag

>>160398371
Play the VN > watch Fate/Zero > watch unlimited blade works > watch Fate/Apocrypha while waiting for Heaven's Feel movies.

>>160398791
Also this.I like SN anime but it's just a glorified harem. In Zero most masters were adults, in SN all school teens. Zero almost had no romance at all only subtle things, in SN every girl is wet for shirou. And fights and servants are much more superior in Zero.

>Thinking of getting into the fate series
That's like considering chewing down on a fat chunk of shit

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>>160398643
Why should/shouldnt i start with zero?
What other alternatives are there, and what benefits do they give to my viewing experience?

>>160398982
Starting with Zero is like starting with the Star Wars prequels. Zero is meant to be experienced after Heaven's Feel, the third route of the VN.
All Fate anime are shitty adaptations (except Zero, but it slightly fucked up the final episodes), and it doesn't look like the Heaven's Feel movies will be any better. Just read the source material, you won't regret it.

>>160398371
You shoudn't

>>160398982
Here is a comparison.
Zero is Star Wars episode 1-3
Stay Night is Star Wars 4-6
Visual novel is good if you're in to those things, but if you read visual novel anime will become trivial.
Comparison with Star Wars isn't best but Stay Night: Ultimate blade works is a remake of original Stay Night anime and was made after Zero. So if you are only interested in anime Zero> SN:UBW is best choise to watch

>>160398982
Because Zero is a prequel to F/SN and spoils a lot of its major plot points very casually, since it assumes you've already played the game. You can follow Zero's story just fine without having played F/SN, it's made to be self-contained, but it's because of that it has to spoil major things in F/SN.

People say the F/SN VN is the best starting point because it is the original title in the franchise, literally all other Fate titles are based on it in some way. It's the original source of all Fate lore/worldbuilding. If you play it then you can easily understand anything else in the franchise, since they're just prequels, sequels, or spin-offs that take the base setting and then alter it somehow. Whereas if you start with Zero you've just ruined F/SN for yourself and have very little understanding of the setting since F/Z doesn't really go into the the worldbuilding that much and focuses more on the Grail War as a surface-level conflict between people. F/SN is where you get all the meat behind the story and learn how and why shit works. You can use that knowledge in any other title to figure out how it's doing things differently.

>>160399092
Sorry, not really into reading books.

>>160399131
>Stay Night: Ultimate blade works is a remake of original Stay Night anime
They are two different routes with entirely different stories. And no matter what, you shouldn't watch Zero before Heaven's Feel.
If you really don't want to read a VN, UBW>Wait for HF>Zero is the best way. But if you don't want to read a VN, not bothering with the franchise is honestly the best option.

>>160398643
This is the worst possible route anyone can go to know the series.

If you really want to get into it, read the VN, then watch the adaptations. If you only want to be a casual sure, go with what this guy says.

>>160398948
Zero's masters were adults but they still acted like clueless children. Tokiomi and Kayneth were extremely poor excuses for experienced masters, Caster's was an edgelord, Waver was a child, etc. They did nothing to prove that this was a high IQ Grail War, it was the same shit.

>>160399131
>Stay Night: Ultimate blade works is a remake of original Stay Night anime
No it isn't. F/SN has three main story routes. The first anime in 2006 was originally adapting the Fate route, the very first route of the game that focuses on Saber, but went all anime original toward the end and started mixing in stuff from other routes as well as just making shit up. UBW (2015) is a straight up adaptation of the Unlimited Blade Works story route, the second story in the game that focuses on Shirou, Rin, and Archer. The third route, Heaven's Feel, has never been adapted, yet it contains some of the most crucial character and setting information to the entire franchise. Nearly every major Fate title references information and events you only see in Heaven's Feel, yet if you don't play the VN there's no way to get that knowledge. Hence why the VN is said to be the best starting point. Until it's got a decent adaptation anyway.

>>160398371
For the love of God ignore the VN, it's just pure trash, trash that takes 60+ hours to get through, don't waste your time. Start with Zero and stop with Zero, then wait for Strange Fake to get animated, ignore the rest of Fate, it's all shit. If you really can't control yourself, watch UBW.

Otherwise do what I did, fall for the retards telling you to read the VN, waste time on that dumpster fire, then, thinking that perhaps the rest is better, waste even more time on other shit only to realize it goes from bad to worse.

>>160399419
OP said he wants to get into the franchise. VN is the best way to do that. You don't even like the franchise so why would he take your advice on how to get into it?

>>160398371
There's really no other sensible starting point bar the VN.

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>>160399419

VN. Don't listen to zerofags. It spoils a lot of shit like its nothing.

>>160399484
Because the franchise is, as a whole, trash only surpassed by Raildex. He probably thinks it's great because loud retards with shit taste will praise the VN to high heaven because of their nostalgia and/or sekrit club factor. He won't listen to me anyway, I sure didn't back when I decided to waste my time with it, but in the end he'll realize it just like I did.

>>160399616
News flash: People like different things. You hating it has nothing to do with what someone else might think of it.

>>160399602
And VN doesn't spoil anything, right?
If you read VN you might as well don't watch anything besides Zero and even that is spoiled out the ass by VN

>>160399616
Dude opinions lmao

>>160398371
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (2014), then Fate/Zero
And that's where you also end, 'cause the rest is garbage

>>160399650
>VN spoiling Zero
Are you going to say the original Star Wars trilogy spoils Anakin's fate too?

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>>160398371
Do not listen to any secondary fag in this thread.
Play the stay night VN, watch zero, then play hollow ataraxia. After you do those three in the order I've described then you can consume whatever fate media there is as everything else is a spin-off or an alternative version.

If you really don't want to play the VNs then watch UBW 2014, then wait for the heaven's feel movies, then Zero.

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I honestly don't think Zero spoils as much of the VN as people claim. Yeah you learn Rin and Sakura are related but you could easily know that from pop culture.

It's just easier to read a long, detailed VN when you're already invested in the universe after watching Zero. Saber's story in Zero doesn't ruin her Fate route ending, Heaven's Feel on a first read, especially Kirei, was much improved after seeing all the background information from Zero. And it's much easier to burn out if you're new to VNs in general and don't know what the cool parts of Fate are like while going through the early normal hours of the VN.

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>>160398371
Play the visual novel.
If you can't get out of your comfort zone to enter the series in the most optimal way possible then you shouldn't bother with it.

>>160398982
You're a fucking retard if you play or watch anything not in the production order. PRODUCTION ORDER IS ALWAYS THE RIGHT WAY.

>>160398643
as someone who's done it this way, there's actually some issues here. both series will feel very awkward for difference reasons:
fate/zero, being a prequel made after f/sn, will assume you know certain things about the fate universe (making early episodes confusing) and has certain episodes or moments that are obviously meant to be watched after knowing the story of f/sn (such as the rin episode).
this isn't too bad because IMO not knowing things actually makes the world feel a bit more "lived in," even if it's difficult to really grasp.

the real issue comes when watching UBW, a story that is obviously building upon and twisting the original Fate route. the pacing is all messed up (especially in the start of season 2) and characters who obviously had a bigger part in the original route die or become irrelevant quickly. while this wouldn't be a problem for someone who's already gone through a whole route with them, moments (specifically those with kotomine) feel weak. honestly, i kinda wish i'd gone back and done the visual novel fate route first, because i feel like the order i went made it much more difficult to enjoy the series.

>>160400365
this is coming from someone who hasn't read the VNs by the way. both series have very clear moments where it show basically tells you "if you did this in the wrong order, this part will be significantly worse for you." i'm assuming that the fate/stay night visual novel doesn't suck, but considering how many people love it i'm willing to believe it's done well.

>>160398643
>Ultimate Blade Works
Questionable.

>>160398371
There are thee adaptations of the VN. An anime of the first route, just called 'Fate Stay Night,' a movie of Unlimited Blade Works, and most recently an anime of Unlimited Blade Works. You want that last one, and then go through Zero. As for the VN itself, let me be honest: Nasu's prose is really bad. Some people say it's the translators' fault, I say it doesn't matter. The VN is optional.

>>160399304
Tokiomi did nothing wrong, he was betrayed by an immature servant and his dickhead student whom who thought very highly of.

People who say that you should only watch Zero are right in a way. Zero is best out of all Fate anime. Stay Night is just harem and it's hard to watch if you don't like harem. But if you only watch Zero and like it will be hard to fight curiosity of what happens next.

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>>160398371
play the visual novel (it has 3 routes and 12+ possible endings)
don't watch the deen anime adaption
check out fate zero after you play the vn for the prequel
after that everything is fair game and you can knock urself out and form your own opinions

>>160401202
The fact that he didn't know how to handle Gil at all was a huge testament to his incompetency.

>>160401293
>Zero is best out of all Fate anime.

If you don't like harems and sex, don't even get into Fate. The series isn't meant for prudes.

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>>160398643
>says not to listen to anyone else here
>calls it "ultimate blade works"

yeaaahhh ok buddy your opinion is now automatically shit.

This is the TRUE way to do it:
-Fate Stay Night Visual Novel
-Fate Zero
-Fate Hollow Ataraxia Visual Novel
-anything else you want in any order

Those 3 are core if you want to learn about the world, the rules, the war, and the most important part: the characters. Follow this guide and report anyone that says to watch any of the anime adaptations first because they are retarded secondaries and/or underage

>>160401359
It's not like Gil was an easy servant to deal with.

Play FSN
If you like it, then stop and don't watch or read any of the dogshit, tone-ruining, retconning spinoffs
If you don't like it feel free to become one of the thousands of secondaries who thought Carnival Phantasm was the most kawaii shit and stroke your dick to pictures of fox girls

>>160401384
Note - this guide is a bit out dated. UBW 2014 has already come out, hollow ataraxia is fully translated now, strange fake has 4 translated volumes now, and prisma illya has had 4 seasons now.

Don't know anything about any of the tsukihime stuff cause I'm still reading the VN

>>160401581
Wow, I didn't think a primary's opinion could be as bad as a secondaries.

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This is the optimal way:

Watch Fate/Stay Night (2006) > Watch Prisma Illya (all seasons) > Play Fate/Grand Order

>>160401922
former two steps are unnecessary

>>160401922
What is Prisma Illya about? Is it a self contained spin-off?

>>160402082
It's lewd lolis. Like really fucking lewd.

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>>160401581
As you can see my friends, this is a prime example of the fate only fag. You can identify him by his ignorance of tsukihime or any other visual novel in general.

>>160402082
Self contained but makes a billion references to the other works

Zero isn't the source material and it's made to be watched after you read the three or at least two routes of the novel. Start with 2006 anime which is the closest thing you'll get to a Fate adaptation, then watch UBW, and then wait for HF and finally watch Zero. You can also watch Zero before HF to get the best whole experience of the 4th and 5th Holy Grial War combined.

>>160402107
in concept
in practice its just more chuuni fate bullshit

Should I play Tsukihime now or wait for the remake?

>>160402174
Play it, remake is never coming out

>>160402109
Yes what kind of ignorant troll wouldn't suggest people read the greatest FSN sequel, Tsukihime

Retard

>>160399419
Why are Butcherfags/Naritafags so fucking cancerous?

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>>160402174
Just play it.
The remake should've came out a decade ago but type moon turned into jews.

>>160399419
Good post. Except fate/kaleid liner is good.

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>>160398371
Zero is made to be enjoyed after the main story. UBW is made to be enjoyed after stay night. And Heavens Feel is made to be enjoyed after UBW. You will ruin your experience if you do it out of order.

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>>160402174
>wait for the remake

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>>160402174
>Wait for the remake

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>>160402082
>What is Prisma Illya about?
This.

>>160398371
Zero>UBW>Apo

Dont bother with the nerd VN shit

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>>160398371
not a fatefag but here is how you should do it

>>160398371
I've never been able to get into the series myself, mostly for personal reasons.
I have a massive boner for arthurian legends, like they're some of my favorite stories, and the whole 'king aurthur is actually a cute girl' bit always rubbed me the wrong way.

>>160405452
It's not as if Saber acts feminine or unlike a warrior King.

>>160398371
>how to start a series
>consume the first work of said series that was created
It's not really rocket science, just read the things according to their production date, everything else will come naturally. That means go read the VN. If you're too lazy to read then you're shit out of luck cause the anime adaptation of the first route sucks ball and you can't really skip the first chapter of a book and begin reading at the middle.

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>>160405589
Everyone knows British kings love stuffed animals.

>>160405452
Just watch Fate Prototype if you can only handle a male King Arthur.

https://youtu.be/gaeA_xjMR_w

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If you can't be assed to read the VN just watch DEEN Stay Night, then Zero, then Ufo's UBW, then whatever meme show you want.

DEEN's anime gets a lot of flak but it's a proper introduction to the franchise if you don't set your standards very high (It's a 2006 QUALITY show by DEEN). It's the origin of all the Saberwanking that came afterwards so it's worth watching if only to see what the fuss is about (chances are you'll be disappointed) To be honest the Fate route isn't much fun and there's nothing you'll miss if you just watch the adaptation instead of reading the route.

Just keep in mind a bunch of episodes are UBW/HF scenes that the studio shoehorned pretty hard and the fights didn't look very good even by the times' standards.

Besides the OST is top tier anyways.

I just finished Tsukihime.
About to jump into the fan disks. Do I have to play Melty Blood after? Which ones/in what order, or can I just read up about it somewhere? I'm not a big fan of fighting games.