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Why couldn't the 2011 Hunter X Hunter anime have dramatic

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Why couldn't the 2011 Hunter X Hunter anime have dramatic visual effects as good as this?
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Modern Logic

Shinier = Always Better

People are too shallow to have real emotions and grasp beauty anymore.
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Because it's inferior to the 1999 version in pretty much every regard, the only thing that makes it worth watching is the fact that it adapted the Chimera Ant arc.
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>>160384501
Different style and tone from the people that worked on it, it's just stylistic choices on the production team's part.

>>160385249
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it's not just hxh. modern anime has been like this. it actually mirrors the state of hollywood movies too. the visuals are just pretty bland these days.
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HxH isn't a dark and edgy story, not even during Togashi's edgiest period which was Chimera Ants.
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>>160385484
maybe, but the dark and edgy aesthetics does enhance the atmosphere of the anime, and gives it a degree of seriousness you don't expect from a shonen.
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>i'm 12 years old and love dark and edgy artstyle!
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>>160385601
kys fampai
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>>160385564

It's funny because there was a period, from 2004-2012, where people shit on things like Hellsing, FMA and HxH because they weren't panel-for-panel manga adaptions.

We've come full circle where the manga copypasta is derided as souless and bland, and people want anime where the production staff has more leeway for creativity.
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>>160385461
Yeah, that's pretty sad. I wonder what the reason could be? Did they just decide the mainstream audience don't have appreciate for dramatic effects so they don't bother?
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>>160385601
There are both dark and lighthearted moments in HxH. The 1999 anime knew this and used the effects accordingly to the tone of the scene.
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>>160385698
you first, hot stuff
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>>160385834
I would imagine it has to do with the prevalence of digital and CGI. Cinematography and effects had to be done largely in camera for film especially before the standardization of digital transfer and computer editing. You never really knew 100% what you would get either as you cannot review the film until it is developed and the viewfinder is not showing you an exact image of how the film is picking up the image. There was an element of chance in those films which probably helped. Seems far cheaper now to rely on digital fixing to clear up any issues and maybe that is producing a staler and less imaginative look in many cases.
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>>160385484
>>160385601
It's not just about being dark and edgy. It's about using the appropriate effects to give the sense of the emotion going on. The scene above is one major one for Killua, feeling that Illumi is this scary figure controlling his life and the scene gives us a sense he's surrounded by his shadow. If you understand his emotions, it's quite impacting.

In the 2011, all we get is two people talking.
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>>160385249
>Shinier = Always Better
Well doesn't it?
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1999 or...
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>>160387899
2011?
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>>160387907
Nah I like 2011's Gon character design the most.
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>>160388000
1999 scene is better in pretty much every single way though and i haven't even seen the shows. one scene actually attempts directing, the other just autopilots through the 3/4 shots and looks all-around ugly
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>>160388048
I just commented on Gon'd design, agree with you though.
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>>160388098
I don't know how the manga portrays itself either but the '11 designs just feel clowny, and this is from having seen a bunch of images and clips over the years. '99 character art looks more solid, more versatile and even more unique. Just compare the acting and expressions in one scene vs the other
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>>160388147
>and this is from having seen a bunch of images and clips over the years
Why don't you watch the show? 1999 rips quality wise are shit since no good source to encode but has great production values while 2011 is more light hearted and focuses more on the adventure part at least on the first part plus has the QA arc. It's not really long either.
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>>160384501
Cause it had dramatic visual effects even better than that
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>>160388205
I have never been interested in it aside from opening the occasional thread like this one
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1999 added in a bunch of useless dark and edgy filler

2011 cut out all of Leorio's only moments for more Gon
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>>160386138
Kill yourself.
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The 1999 version generally looks like shit and most of the feeling comes from the music and voice acting. There are only a few scenes, like the cherry-picked ones, that looked good. If there were enough examples to justify everyone's hatred of the newer show, there'd be a whole sea of examples but there aren't. I sometimes think that the people who say that the 1999 version is generally better visually haven't actually seen it. It also isn't helped by the shitty DVD quality which fucks up its colors.
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>>160389292
The major problem for me with 99 was the sound direction. Not music direction but sound direction. The nen sfx was cool but everything else was awful and made the show near unwatchable. Also, the voices weren't bad but the acting itself was mostly under par compared to 2011.

>inb4 watch more old anime
Plenty of 90s anime have far better sounds than the ridiculously cheap and retarded sounding shit in HxH 99.
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>>160388809
Not an argument.
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>>160389292
Music and voice acting such an unimportant detail in anime, I agree.
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>>160391558
I didn't say that. That is idiotic to think.
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>>160387907
>>160387899
1999>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2011
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>>160387899
>>160387907
Never seen the 1999 version, but it looks like it has far more tension than the 2011 version

Looks like I need to go back and watch the 99 version.
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I think that where the art failed in the 2011 version, the music saved. The soundtrack is better in the 2011 version. In my not so humble opinion, anyway.
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>>160393804
The soundtrack in 2011 is pretty generic and horribly misused anyway.
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