Fate/Apocrypha

>>160332856
Because it's so bad there it isn't even worth talking about ironically.

Astolfo is my waifu

A FUCKING HOMUNCULUS

Why does it feel like the red team is vastly superior to the black team, both in terms of strength and designs?

>>160333333
Because the whole thing is rigged

>>160333380
I'm pretty sure every Grail War is rigged in some form or another.

>>160333164
t. rager

>>160333333
The only overwhelming advantage they have is Karna. Achilles is more manageable and otherwise Black had the better Saber, Archer, and Caster.

Why does Typemoon keep letting shit authors write fate novels? Can't they let good authors like Nisioisin to write it and incidentally kill every servants and masters and put a just end to the shitty franchise?

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>>160333333
Maybe to make up for their masters being complete non-entities unlike in Black team. The Jew has a cool design, though.

>>160333563
They got Narita in for Strange Fake, he's pretty good.

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Cutest

Did Mordred always used the same sword even back in her battle against Artoria?

>>160332856
People keep saying the Black Team is grossly overwhelmed by the Red Team but the Red Team Just lost their Berserker and the Read Team is so uncoordinated. The sheer teamwork of the Black Team alone is enough to beat any of the Reds even if there was an all out brawl. Thats my observation anyway but the red team could always end up winning because muh plot.

>>160334332
This discussion will probably get plagued with spoilers, but it felt like the Red Team just threw away their Berserker for no reason so it doesn't seem like a big loss.

>>160334483
From what is seen and said for now they didn't throw him away, Spartacus just mindlessly ran straight to their base and being reasonable sane people the reds didn't risk sending their servants to what might have been a slaughter and stopping Spartacus wasn't an option.

>>160334332
Berserker is still in this.

>>160334483
see>>160333380

>>160333333
Who even gives a fuck about Black Team anymore. They all seem like a bunch of retards to me.
>>160333601
Fate/Strange Fake adaptation by Ufotable when?

>>160335383
Hey, Astolfo and Sieg are great.

>>160334332
>Sheer teamwork of the Black Team.
>Fatass just spent two fucking command spells on Sieg.
>Fatass couldn't even stop Sieg from fucking killing himself.
>They actually thought that 'saving Ruler' in an attempt to attain her bias was a good fucking plan.

>>160335454
Fatguy gets better eventually.

>>160335435
They are, but some of the Masters and what you could probably consider as the 'higher ups' essentially are just fucking awful. The homuncli siblings and their servants are alright but I'm almost sure that they'll be brushed aside anyway, because their objectives at the moment seem way too simple. Astolfo is based though. I wish he was on the better side.

>>160335479
Man, I sure hope so. Is there much more of an active role he can actually play without his servant though?

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Was Spartacus the first samefag in history?

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>>160335435
I have mixed feelings about Siegfried.I expect a lot of things from him and Karna, And i dont mean yaoi pictures.

>>160335742
>Karna's boypussy doesnt count
I believe it does in this current economy.

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>>160332856
I didn't realize that lack of Gilgamesh would make fateshit so bland.

>>160335742
I just want some good pics with Shirou Kotomine and literally anyone.

>>160335742
>tfw started playing Fate GO today and got him

>>160335608
Kill yourself.

>>160335742
Sumanai...

>>160335884
It's true. Do they even have someone who could remotely act as a substitute for Gil in Apo? As in, someone with his general archetype and, well, 'wild-card' personality?

>>160335914
>started playing Fate GO
I'd congratulate you but fgo is the cancer that's killing Type-Moon right now.

>>160333333
They have Karna. The Red Faction could literally win in one night but for some reason they don't.

>>160335945
Karna?

>>160335976
For the same reason Gil could have won the entire fifth war by himself but didnt.
It would have been boring.

>>160336013
Maybe to some extent after he finds out what's going on with his master, but currently, he's just following orders loyally.

>>160335976
They literally mount an all-out attack on the Black Faction, and Karna pretty much gets overwhelmed by Vlad and his 20,000 stakes.

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>>160335532
>I wish he was on the better side.
you need to calm down, soon he will be on the better side, Astolfo becomes MC's fuccboi in volume 3.

>>160335976
They want to get Semiramis' Noble Phantasm up and ready before they try to do exactly that.

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>>160335975
I don't even play F/GO, I just save the fanart. Some nice new designs they've put out.

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Doesn't Karna defeats single–handedly the final boss in EXTELLA? The one Nero had to (bullshit) powerup a lot to even face?

I just want to see Karna fight with no bullshit allowed.

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>>160335454
>I'll make a case that the teamwork in Black team is absolute shit
>All the cases I list are just the same guy fucking up over and over, rather than teamwork issues.

>>160336363
Art looks familiar. Is it by the same guy that does Disgaea art?

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>>160336429
Yup.

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>>160336567
Apparently her costume gets skimpier as she levels up.

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>>160336609

>>160336133
Except for when he decides to burn them all to ashes. His only limitation in this war is his lack of a good mana supply like the Black Faction has. This gets remedied by the end and he absolutely stomps.

>>160336383
The results of the fight are unknown, but Sefar is something Karna says even makes Kalki pale in comparison. Its an end of the world level event that nothing on Earth could beat. Which is why Gaia created a weapon specifically to beat it, that will show up when the world is in great danger.

Should be noted, only reason servants could even fight in Extella is because it was Lv1 Sefar who was just reborn. If it had any time to level up then it would have immediately grown beyond their ability to kill. Altera didn't want to be Sefar though, some part of her might have been holding back since as she was dying she gave a final word to hakuno.

Beasts, Sefar, and a few other things; servants can't fight them normally so they have to be knocked down to their lowest point in order for servants to have a chance at winning.

>>160336646
Can Servants fight TYPEs?

>>160336691
Probably not, unless they had some crazy plot buff like they did in CCC when they fought universal Kiara.

>>160336646
It's strongly implied that Karna succeeds due to his route's worldline being shown to continue, unlike most of the others that get pruned. Losing to Sefar would lead to the end of humanity, which leads to stagnation, which leads to a worldline getting pruned.

>>160336691
Gil and Saber might be the only ones. Possibly Enkidu as well depending on how much his Enuma Elish can power up.
Wouldn't give them good odds though.

>>160336363
I have to agree, some of the designs are damn nice. But some anon yesterday showed me one of their designs for EMIYA and it ruined everything. Some designs are absolutely gorgeous and some are just god-awful.
>>160336428
Good teamwork means that everyone works well together. One guy fucking up means that there's a fault in the team as a whole.

>>160335884
HF has almost no Gil and it's great

>>160336646
Karna has the perfect weapon for killing Sefar (raw power with no concept that is still strong enough to kill gods), so he probably was successful.

>>160336832
They have a bunch of different artists for F/GO so some designs are certainly hit-or-miss. Post-Kiara EMIYA and Scheherazade are some of the misses.

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>>160333333
>Reminder that Apocrypha is a story about the Counter Force's actor called Sieg trying to prevent Shirou Kotomi (Amakusa) from destroying the world.

>>160336884
I think I might start shipping these two.

>>160336940
Karna is cool

>>160337056
>not shipping Karna with literally everybody
Perfect husbando, perfect friend, perfect ally

>>160337001
Every entry in Fate boils down to a Catholic trying to destroy the world and the Pagan who stops it.

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>>160337056
They get along well in each series, but its more like two housewives who get together to gossip, or old friends.

Karna is an autist who repels most people without realizing it, by saying the wrong thing, but Tamamo is a non serious person who greets him whenever she sees him. He says he enjoys this in mats. They're both Sun alignment.

End of her route in Extella she talks about meeting up with Karna who always tells her about new restaurants he tries, and she takes Hakuno to later.

>>160337188
>Catholic trying to destroy the world

Shirou is trying to save it.

>>160337188
Not Fate/Extra, CCC, Extella, or even GO

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>>160337001
The funny thing is that anons saying that they read the source material dont even know it.

>Higashide and Sakurai are hampered by the fact that they have to wank their pet characters
>Narita is held back by being cockblocked by Nasu when he wants to used the entirety of the Nasuverse and not just the Fate part to its full potential

Let me see if I have Fate/Extella's Karna story right.
>Karna wakes up one morning and decides he will solve all the problems
>There is a lengthy intermission during which some fighting occurs
>By the end of this intermission the problems are implied to all be solved

>>160337226
Karna's an all around great guy who just has a really bad habit of saying one thing too few while thinking he's saying one thing too many. I like how his development in CCC actually shows through in Extella.

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>>160337235
>amakusafags and his headcanons
he hates it

>>160336884
Karna thinks highly of Tamamo because in CCC he saw through her and realised she was a good person behind the mask she wears. Karna also doesn't like Nero and hates Nameless.

>>160337361
Pretty much. Karna's route is about him deciding that enough is enough and he goes and solves ALL OF THE PROBLEMS singlehandedly. He goes an soloes the other two armies and it's implied that he defeats Sefar. Being Karna with even a somewhat decent amount of mana and access to even one of his NPs is like being Gilgamesh who has decided to go win Stay Night in one night.

>>160337459
>>160337495
Hero of Charity stronk.

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>>160337361
>Extella is the story of a war between different servant factions
>He joined Tamamo's faction because she asked him to, they get along well, and he's a good judge of character.
>Events in the background mostly proceeded as normal, with Caster losing ground to Altera, but this caused her to snap out of her Harlot mode earlier on and return to her old self.
>Because of this Karna took over the main fighting for his team, and took over beating Altera
>He beats Altera but this causes the apoclypse to awaken
>He decides to fight it as well
>His route ends with a light indicating his world-line going on far past the end, indicating the world lives at least.

If he lived, then the ending probably played out the same as Tamamo's, with her building a peaceful society within SERAPH where everyone can live how they want, and set up shops. She gave up being Ruler to just be a housewife.

>>160337235
what? he is catholic?

>>160337571
I think it's great that Karna's autism only makes it possible to solve problems in one of two ways. Either a.) give someone a really harsh but accurate assessment of themselves or, more commonly b.) hit shit really fucking hard

>>160337318
Welcome to any Apo-related topic. Where 99,99% the opinions are complete shit and very uninformed.

>>160337579
yep

>>160337708
I agree Sieg is a very good character XD

>>160337459
>hates Nameless.
why does everyone hate the redman?

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>>160333333
Because they have justice, anon.

>>160337834
Karna believes he's retarded for clinging to his hipocrytical ideal.

>>160337834
It's his lot in life.

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>>160337834
something about how his not really genuine and shit like that

>>160337787
>emoticon
get out

>>160335884

Gil a shit

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>>160337846
>they have justice

>>160332856
Poor Fran

Does Arthuria's MHX costume in Extella allows you to use Dun Stallion and Starburst Stream? Cuz I ain't gonna buy Extella if it's only for cosmetic

>>160338428
It's all good. Her master will make her shine.

>>160338635
Please anon, Soda-kun 2.0 a shit

>>160336832
Please do not insult Demiya. He had a hard life.

>>160338714
>Caules
>shit

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El Mello anime adaptation when? I want some comfy mage adventures without any Servants for once.

What the fuck is ruler class?

>>160336383
Nero faced Velber itself, not Sefar.

Karna is still top though. Mainly because he has God-class weapons; including one with power to kill Gods.

Caules is a better MC material than a literally-who homunculus who won't even top the Einzbern's ones

>>160338908
What the fuck is MoonCancer, Watcher and Gatekeeper Class?

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Which girl is best girl?

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>>160338908
In a grail war that threatens the nature of the world in some big way, the grail balances out the system by summoning an authority class who isn't part of the system, who can command any servant in the way.

Its like a counter force thing, grail decides when a Ruler is necessary. Ruler can't pick sides, all they can do is make sure the war doesn't go off the rails.

Rulers are only saints so far, its a very hard class to get into since you must be impartial and saintly.

>>160338960
MoonCancer is Extra-related shit. Watcher and Gatekeeper have yet to be defined, on purpose; it's a mystery.

Your post doesn't make sense as a response to a question which can actually be answered.

>>160339017
I like Semi-sama.

>>160338960
Well yeah, but you can say that about most characters in Apo.

Gordes ended up being better MC material.

>>160339039
>tfw no Kojiro
JUST

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>>160339039
Only two types of wars that a Ruler can be summoned to take part in.

>>160339017
>Japanese woman has the biggest breasts
Why is Japan so deluded?

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>>160339017

Astolfo what are you doing

>>160338605
Cosmetic only.

>>160339096
>that Martha
Nice

>>160336910
That's because HF has Kotomine. Marik Ishtar just couldn't compare to him.

>>160339039
thanks friendo

>>160339096
>special and unusual circumstances with unforeseen consequences

Why doesn't Strange Fake have one?

>>160339017

Good to see Fran was able to get a matching set of boobs

Would have been awkward if they'd come from two different donors

>>160339465
They already said one might be summoned, but by the time it happens it'll be too late to fix anything.

One person in the war is trying to have one summoned by force.

>>160338878
Who's the Saber clone?

>>160339262
Fate has Kotomine. HF has Kotomine barely in the last day. HF fags will deny this fact.

>>160339065
Hello valvrager, why the fuck do you keep posting the same shitposts and memes in each thread?

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>>160338960
>Hey, look up here at me. I'm a beta megane-kun fag
shit taste anon

>>160340197
Good thing Caules isn't anything like Souta, otherwise your constant shitposting might actually make sense.

>>160335383
Considering what happens to the Black Team later on, you aren't wrong to have your doubts.

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>Jack's ass is________

>>160340254

Underage

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>>160340254
In need of covering!

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>>160339757
Gray, a girl that Waver found in the countryside and took on as an apprentice. Speculated to be a distant descendant of King Arthur, and possesses Arthur's Noble Phantasm lance. He brings her along as a bodyguard, occasionally.

Fairly cute, but Waver tells her to keep her hood on because her face brings back bad memories for him.

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>>160340283

Better?

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>>160338878
T H I S
H
I
S

It definitely seems like the most interesting Fate title in years (doesn't even have Fate in the title, which is probably part of the reason why).

>>160339757
Gray, the narrator and "Dr. Wattson" of the story.

>>160340376
>but Waver tells her to keep her hood on because her face brings back bad memories for him.
What a fag

But how does she interact with Flat?

>>160340425
> Wallachia
Wait what

>>160337846
That cat is flat.

>>160340543
She will grow when she has kids to feed.

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Would you an evil cat?

>>160340507
It's the Fate universe version of him that couldn't become a DAA, but probably still a Dead Apostle. He's still the director of Atlas and the Case Files volume next month will be centered around that.

They're generating Tsukihime hype this year, since also got an alt universe Roa, that's for sure.

>>160340752
> alt universe Roa
Neat.

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>Sieg vs Karna
When?

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>>160340777
Yep, pic related. An old incarnation of him that got permanently killed in Fate worlds due to not being as strong as in Tsuki worlds. Still has the same VA from Melty/Carnival Phantasm.

>>160340735
flat

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I want to cum all over Atalanta's bare back and shoulder blades

Is that wrong?

>>160340364
Is that lance stronger than Excalibur?

>>160340852
Tarantella?

>>160340735
Futa cat.

>>160340852
Don't mess witht he Angry Frenchman

>>160340841
Vol. 2

>>160340928
Goddess Arturia's is when compared to regular Excalibur.
Compared to Planetary Defense Excalibur? Nah.

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>>160338878
>Had to steal a priceless relic to get his servant.
>His student summons an arguably better one with a toy.
Are catalysts a meme?

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>>160340455
Not sure, volume one only had her monologue that he was a difficult person to deal with. And the other blonde boy is her stalker as well.

I wish translations weren't dropped. I need my fix.

>>160340841
Last volume.

>>160340930
Yeah, that's his name in that incarnation. Like Elesia and SHIKI.

>>160340938
Sick and tired of Servants, but if it means we get more hype for actual non-Fate stories, I'm all for drama CDs like that.

>>160341016
>Goddess Arturia

So Arturia is the Grand Saber?

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>MAAAAASTER!

>GIVE ME MY PANTIES BACK!

>>160340885
I vaguely remember a HGW quest on /tg/ where we boned Atlanta years ago.

>>160341183

Were GOLDEN APPLES involved?

>>160341202
Yes
It was /u/shit

>>160340413
Worse.

At least put a top hat on that.

>>160341183
>>160341244
>/u/shit
>boned

I don't think you know what boned means.

>>160341022
The translations for Case Files are not ongoing? What's the deal with that?

>>160341341
It was futa.

>>160341356
Guy translated vol 1 and like half of vol 2, then stopped months ago.

So, is there a chance that John Watson is a lovely little lady?

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>>160337001
Glad to see someone who actually read the Fate/Apocrypha novel

>>160341467
Citing a reason, or simply disappearing? Because getting/finding a new translator is justifiable if he's actually gone. If he's not gone, he'll probably be a standard bitch TL and perma-quit if someone 'steals his work'.

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>>160337188
>catholic
Look like Anglicans to me.

>>160342127
Why does she wear an eyepatch?

>>160342208
She was a very sickly woman. seriously albino, and an immuno deficiency syndrome.

>>160341888
Just seemed to disappear. Well, translator still seems to post about other shit though.

Maybe the manga will get translations whenever it comes out.

>>160342512
Do we have any idea on when the manga is coming out? Perhaps I might be able to do some work on it.

Why does Apocrypha feel like its trying to appeal to both the /Zero crowd and the /Stay Night crowd at the same time?

>>160342569
What do you mean by this?
What do you mean by /Zero crowd and by /Stay Night crowd? How would you distinguish between the two?

>>160342604
It's a stupid mindset which is generally only propagated by fans of the franchise who exclusively like visual novels.

>>160342604
Urobuchi dicksuckers and VN Readers, I assume.

I don't know which FSN he's talking about though.

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>>160332856
With the exception of some moments it's been pretty boring so far, and from the spoilers it seems it gets even worse on the story part. Will there be a worthy fight to look forward to?

>>160342550
Nothing yet, it was only announced a month ago. According to the article, it says "starting this year", so presumably in a few months.

>>160341398

I don't suppose this was archived somewhere? Sounds right up my alley.

>>160342787
Which scene is this pic from again?

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>>160342840
Karna vs Siegfried in the third episode, 11:09 mark, it happens incredibly fast though.

Which Saint is for lewds?

>>160342917
Saino to lewds

>>160342917
Amakusa

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>>160342917

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>>160342917
Astolfo

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>>160343308
Astolfo is not a saint. He is a paladin.

>>160343407
He is a slut.
A dirty, beautiful slut.

>>160343407
What's the difference?

>>160332856
Why did he haveto die like that?
It felt like he was sucha good guy.
He just wanted to stop theoressor ;_;7

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>>160343574
He'll be back. You saw him during the flash-forward.

>>160343574
What made you think he died? You missed Darnic saying "It would be easy to just kill him, but this is too good of an opportunity to pass up. We could make Berserker of Red into our pawn".

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>>160343517
Saints are recognized for their extreme holiness. Paladins were just the fighters of Charlemagne.

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>>160339039
I was gonna cat post but Vive la France!

>>160345086
Astolfo best girlfriend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK64BIFm9A0

This is nice combination.

>>160337495
So, Karna and Gilgamesh are on the same level then or is that the latter still in front?

>>160341183
Name?

>>160345427
Latter's still in front, but Karna's easily in the "damn close fight" category.

>>160345427
Gilgamesh will most likely draw Ea pretty soon into the match not to mention there's Enkidu

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>>160345427
Karna takes Gilgamesh pretty seriously, but unfortunately Gilgamesh also takes Karna pretty seriously.

Its a close match but Gilgamesh has the edge. Karna seemed to say in Extella that on the low chance they could manage to get within Gil's range before he blows them up, then their team would have a 50/50 chance of taking him down.

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>>160345628

I did it guys, I fucking did it

I fapped to Astolfo

It's all over for me, go on, leave me.

Is Achilles as strong as he acts or is he just flaunting?

>>160332856
Fran seems interesting.
When Astolfo was asking her name, she got pissed but was that more a shy reaction shifted into anger due to her mad enhancement?

>>160345722
If black archer wasn't in the war, he would have easily won.

>>160345722
Kinda both

He's strong but also arrogant, he gets humbled pretty quickly when he realizes who Archer of Black is. He's called a hero on par with Karna.

>>160345722
He's basically gil but less douchey

>>160345722
He cannot even be hurt by someone non-divine. He's also sanic.

>>160345744
>Hehe, he's invincible since no one else has divinity. Absolutely infallible in battle, solos everything
>Shut up, the heel weakness doesn't exist, its impossible for anyone to hit him.

He's an arrogant guy at the end of the day. He could get sniped a bit by an assassin or archer in the heel. If he gets hit in the heel even once he loses like 75% of his powers in a grail war. He drops all the way down to a mid tier servant without any speed or divine protections.

There's no such thing as a perfect servant, no matter how great your power is, if you think you losing isn't a possibility then I can guarantee you are definitely going to lose.

>>160345809
I mean you're absolutely right, and you neglect that Karna has divinity and could have probably beat him.

Just saying he PROBABLY would be able to win/almost win without horse fucker.

>>160345861
Yes, if you're saying that he has high odds then that's true. I'm just saying that anyone who thinks something is a sure bet in this universe sets themselves up to job to an MC badly. Gilgamesh, Arcuied, Heracles, the guy that thinks he's invincible exists to be bodied. Always be careful, always think that someone might still fuck you, that way you retain a bit of plot armor.

What the fuck did Sieg do during this episode? Did he literally sacrifice himself and turn the homunculus into a heroic spirit?

What the fuck was the start of episode 1 with Sieg vs Mordred?

>>160345906
>What the fuck was the start of episode 1 with Sieg vs Mordred?

A flash forward into later in the season. The Siegfried that fought Mordred wasn't the real one, since Seig absorbed Siegfried's power he can transform into him three times. He does it the initial time against Mordred, but since he's not used to using this power he puts on a pretty bad show at the time. Which is why Siegfried was losing to Mordred in that clip. Normally Siegfried would trash her.

>>160345934
God dammit, so he gets a three genie wish that lets him use his power? That is so fucking lame.

Did Sieg's heroic spirit die or is he just out of this war?

>>160345905
Its like, you can be strong, but the instant you're invincible or strongest, your plot armor suddenly goes into the inverse for some reason in TM. You exist for a protagonist to beat at that point.

>>160345905
Just once I want "totally not shiro" and "totally not seibah" to win. I haven't seen all of the fate stuff, but in all of them I have it's always the boring MC winning.

>>160346001
There's no Shirou or Saber in Fate/Strange Fake. There's no main character at all, so you should probably check that one out next.

Hakuno isn't like Shirou at all, but Nero ends up bringing them down so that's probably not worth looking into too much yet.

Guda in FGO, isn't much of a character, they're more of a normalfag self-insert who witnesses the story of various heroes unfold and takes part in it. But at least there's no Saber or Shirou I guess.

I seriously doubt Prisma can end with Shirou and Saber type characters winning either.

>>160346074
Thanks for the tip, I'll check that out.

>>160346088
I'd say mainly just focus on FSF out of all of those really.

Its written by the same guy that did Baccano and DRDRDR or whatever.

>>160346100
It's DRRR. It's not difficult.

>>160346074
Prisma is basically that with Ilya only it has a worse thing where Ilya will get bodied by an opponent but later will just beat their ass up due to lol unlimited Kaleido magic yuri powers or something.

Well, it is a magical girl series so not expecting the MC to win either through asspull or friendship is just stupid.

Anime original fate done by sunrise studio 1 or studio iogi when?!

Directed by Tomino.

>>160346289
>wanting a war is bad, no one wins Grail War

>>160337320
>Narita is held back by being cockblocked by Nasu when he wants to used the entirety of the Nasuverse and not just the Fate part to its full potential

Where did you get that idea? If Nasu was really only limiting him to Fate, he wouldn't have let him make a literal DA as a Master.

>>160346351
>not wanting to see the thing that would tip the MC over from being a hyper-competitive magus into a "WAR IS HELL"

>not wanting to see what kind of servants Tomino would make considering how in depth his research goes and how much metaphor he already throws into his shows.

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>>160345460
Astolfo

>>160337846
Im guessing the other masters never show up and Shirou is the one who commands them all

Dont post spoilers

>>160346688
Shirou is the red man

>>160346665
shes pretty cute

rading fake fate.
the first chapter is better than all of apocrypha

How hard is it to summon a servant outside of a grail war?

I like Siegfried, so I feel painful. I like half Sieg and I hate half…Higashide

>>160347005
Very. They're incredibly mana intensive. Saber required Rin with regular mana transfers from shirou to keep in the real world. And remember Rin is a freakish prodigy. (though not the biggest freakish prodigy these days)

And that is without her doing fancy excaliblast things.

>>160347005
Ilya was dying from the strain of keeping up Berserker each day. And she's like a thousand times human capabities as a magic battery or something.

Unless you have infinite magic like Chaldea, its basically impossible.

>>160347639
>>160347542
Okay still newish to the series but, has anyone considered orginazing a few top level mages to summon maybe 3 servants to take over a country. I feel like 20 mages supplying mana to 3 servants would be enough to take on a government.

>>160348070
That's where shirou comes in.
He butchers everyone stupid enough to try then fucks off back to his hell.

>>160332978
Main issue is jack the ripper IS NOT a heroic spirit. ..its a fukig ghost of dead babies...wtf?!?

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>>160333534
Yeah, Siegfried truly did well for his team

>>160333333
>Masterless team

HA.

>>160348070
Rin is one of the top 100 mages in the history of the association in terms of potential. And she can barely hold on to saber, without saber doing anything strenuous. and saber is a very efficient servant.

Anyone that can get the mana together to be meaningful isn't interested in taking over territory, they're interested in the root and shit like that and could do far more without a servant who, upon using their NP would immediately kill most of them from the sheer mana consumption.

>>160348235
>>160348130
Also yeah, if you start trying to do shit like that EMIYA is likely to turn up because there is a near 0 chance that, assuming you managed it somehow, 3 heroic spirits running amock in the world WILL attract attention.

FateApocrypha Episode 5 Preview
https://youtu.be/HEFptSfZE28

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>>160348270

>>160348270
So yeah Jeanne is doing basically what I expected and for some reason a lot of people didn't immediately guess.

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>>160348298

>>160348235
Some guy in FSF managed to kill 30,000 people and turn them into a mana crystal, that could power a servant for a month. Could probably do it if you didn't have a lot of morality.

Also Rin is not one of the top 100 mages. She eventually when she reaches her apex might be one of the top 100, but she isn't yet. Currently she's just a moderate talent in the making. in UBW BD interviews Nasu said that Kayneth in Zero is ten times as much of a magus in terms of ability than Rin in UBW. This is a quote that both shows Kayeth was a genius, and that Rin ain't shit yet. Two others such as Alba were also mentioned to be above Rin easily. She's got room to grow.

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>>160348324

>>160348343
>in terms of potential

anon plz, reading.

And 30,000 people, to power it, at basically idle. If it tried to use a mana hungry NP it'll burn through that -really- fucking fast.

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>>160348433

>>160348385
No, it was 30,000 people to be able to use all of his NPs freely and wildly as much as he wants.

The guy basically did the same thing Atomic Gadorade did, but on a grand scale. The servant he applied it to was Alcidies, which allowed Alcides to use King's Order freely as much as he wants during the war. King's Order takes up magnitudes more energy than Godhand.

Although I really doubt that mafia boss doesn't have another few couple thousand peoples worth of energy cubes lying around at this point in case Herc Alter is running low.

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>>160340543
Not really. See >>160339017

Cat is just petite

>>160348343
To bad he wasnt smart enough to block bullets

>>160341144
Only for some Golden Apples.

>>160348472
I'm pretty sure he has a grail system backing him up.

>>160348588
Probably

>>160345722
He is strong as all fuck.

If Karna wasnt also in the war he'd be easily top tier. The matchup against Chiron is a bit unfortunate for him but not disasterous

>>160348619
Take away that, and those 30,000 would not last. Grail systems provide insane quantities of mana. Absolutely insane amounts.

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Why are there no 1080p subs? Why are there 720p subs? The raws are 1080p..

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So apparently we will get this scene in episode 6.
Will A-1 deliver?

>>160346074
>SF
Richard and Ayaka are clear protagonists.
>But at least there's no Saber or Shirou I guess.
Guda and Mashu
>Hakuno isn't like Shirou at all
He always wins because he is MC
>I seriously doubt Prisma can end with Shirou and Saber type characters winning either.
Illya will always win because she's a magical girl and Prisma isn't Madoka

>>160348696
This image is wrong. It was Arturia that lunged into Mordy.

Mordy's body had a curse on it placed there by Morgana to move after death and attempt to kill the person who killed her.

Has anyone ever won the grail and got their wish?

>>160348805
Arthur had his guts cut open.

this has confused me for a while now but, is there more than one grail?

>>160348850
In the Nasuverse she received a single run through in the guts

>>160348857
Yes. The Holy Grail isnt a singular object. Its the name of the product of a ritual that uses summoned servants to grant the wishes of the person who claims it.

>>160348884
I mean, there is THE holy grail, but the ones used in wars aren't it.

>>160348884
According to the church the Fuyuki holy grail is the 726th item claiming to be the grail.

>>160342127
Why Risei allowed his granddaughter to become whore?

>>160348270
FrankxMegane OTP

>>160342569
probably because you don't like it and need a reason to make it look like you do so because of "superior taste" or some other ego boosting lie

>>160348588
>>160348619
He doesn't have the Grail; he has basically the entire fucking US underground/mafia/black market working with or for him.

>>160348702
>Richard and Ayaka are clear protagonists.
good job proving that you aren't reading or at least paying attention to the novels

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>trap bait
100% Confirmed

>>160349795
>that agitated jannu in the back
It begins

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Is the source material of apocrypha as bad as the adaptation?

>>160349795
Jesus Christ, Jeanne is already jealous.

http://fate-apocrypha.com/story/

Takuya Igarashi is storyboarding the latest episode?

>>160349848
>>160349918
More like she disapproves of faggotry

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>almost no mordred since the first episode
Novelfags were right about this series being shit.

If Mordred and Siegfried fuck, would she lay an egg?

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is Astolfo the perfect girlfriend?

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>>160349981
Mordred will become one of the fuckbois from Sieg's harem.

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>>160348402

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>>160350294

>>160349981
Mordred is the Sieg first rival

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One of the teams summons this guy. Depending on who does it first, who will win the grail war?

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>>160349795
>>160350147
Lewd

>>160337320
The problem with Higashide is that he can't resist adding fanservice that adds nothing to the story.
He wrote the "biggest" holy grail war and made it SO fucking boring, because it lacks any themes or structure and doesn't utilize 1% of its potential.
The dude is an old friend of Uro and Nasu, how is it that he sucks this bad at writing fate?

People who are excited for El melloi LN should stop now, the writer is also not very good.

>>160348149
>Main issue is jack the ripper IS NOT a heroic spirit
By that logic neither should Medusa or Medea but nobody cares about that shit

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>>160332856
Do both berserkers kinda suck this time?
I feel like Herc could have kicked the shit out of the both of them.

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>>160332856
Because there's no character worth watching except these two.

>>160351251
I dissagree. Apocrypha wasn't a snorefest or something, I can remember a good and interesting moments, especially action parts. But I agree that Higashide could make it better, some of the ideas and character were just underdeveloped. Everyone should have much more time.

>>160351504
Herc is a top tier servant no matter which class he is summoned to so only few heroes can really be on his level

>>160351551
This.
I would argue Vlad also had a shit ton of potential to become an interesting antagonist but we'll all see soon how that shitshow ended.

>>160351504
Herc is a goddamn monster, this is emphasized a lot in Stay Night, and the worst part is that this is him nerfed

>>160351579
Action scenes with no nuance or any depth behind them aren't interesting. Maybe initially cool to look at but not fight scenes that are memorable or ones that you always revisit.

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>>160351551
>>160351738
>vulgar autistic 5-years-old girl for fancervice and fap material.
>dumb shonenshit guy

please anon, go back to Boruto thread

>>160351888
Yes, they were interesting, there were details. This is why action scenes in anime so boring - it's just action and fights without any explanation and depth.

>>160352018
Why are you so mad, anon?

>>160352018
>not liking the chav
Why are you here then?

>>160352226
>FGO Fuyuki.webm

>>160352342
That's literally exactly what it is. Are you retarded, or

>>160340376
Man Seiba really got around.

>>160352018
Literally this

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>>160352201

>>160352226
What?

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>>160348070
Doing that would likely have counter guardians to come after them

>>160352226
clattanoia intensifies

>>160348149
The main flaw is that there is no tension and fight between the different masters here. In Zero and FSN the masters were among the most interesting characters, they fought each other, intrigued against each other or joined forces for a while, for strategical reasons.
Here we just have one big team of faggots that work together and an enemy master who's sitting around in a church. The only interesting aspect might be Morded's master and that's it and Jack/Slut because they're wild cards. It doesn't help that we have more than twice as many servants as usual either, since most of them won't get much screentime.
I am also not a fan of most of the servants here but this is a subjective thing at least.

>>160340413
nope, loli version is 10/10

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>>160352018
Dumb homunculus, go back to being dead.

>>160352409
I thought it was Berserk. The CG is just that awful here.

>>160352713
t.narutofag

>>160352713
Typical shounentard kill yourself.

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Dozo!

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>>160353011
>>160353013
t. homunculus apologists

>>160351504
>>160351757
And a not Berserker Herc is pretty much immune to GoB and can actually steal Ea and Enkidu

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>>160353235
Stop posting this shit. Everything you say is either a lie or deliberately misleading information.

The *only* Heracles who can 'steal' anything is Avenger Heracles. The only Heracles who has indicated, in any way, that he can deflect weapons from the Gate of Babylon is Archer/Avenger Heracles.

>>160337001
But CF are summoned by Gaia, and he sure wasnt

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>>160353057

>>160342322
AIDS?

>>160352654
You do realize apo doesn't have masters? Half of them aren't present and the remaining are useless and get removed from the Story early. They're Simply not the focus.

>>160353457
>141kg

fat

>>160353671
Counter Force, not Counter Guardians nitwit. Guardians are the last resort.

>>160342787
Achilles and Chiron wrestling should be good. Same for Spartacus return and most of Mordred's fights. The Hanging Gardens debuting should also be pretty cool.

>>160353457
How the fuck is he 2 classes?

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My wife on the left.

>>160354013
What's the difference

>>160348702
Mashu is more of a Sakura clone without worms though, and Guda never develops powers to fight servants.

>>160348270
>Fate/Apocrypha Episode 5 Preview [Eng Sub]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWmGB6z9-ng

>Doki Doki no Waku Waku


>What do we do about the twenty episode left?

>Switch to a Romanian Love-Comedy anime?

>Then, I'll be a heroine who will be falling from the sky.

>Jeanne will be a shy childhood friend, Thanks!

>>160354304
The counter force is the name of the whole system, which it's most powerful layer is the counter guardians. They're what happen when shit has hit the fan and there is no way to stop it spreading, but you can try and limit the damage it does by destroying it all.

>>160354171
His master deliberately fucked him up.

That said, it's not exactly unheard of. In rare cases, you can get a Servant with the Double Summon skill which gives them abilities from another class. For example, Semiramis is an Assassin with Caster abilities.

>>160354450
>Then, I'll be a heroine who will be falling from the sky.
>Jeanne will be a shy childhood friend, Thanks!
Make it happen, A1!