Dragon Ball Super

>>160125440
fuck you i was gonna post that
now what am i gonna do

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>>160125391
Reminder that Son Goku is beautiful.

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Leave Zeno to us.

>>160125391
Let me rape your mom

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Reminder that Trunks raped his mom

>>160125440
Zeno is a girl, prove me wrong.

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>>160125468
GOKU SAAAA!!!

>>160125502
He will rape your mom.

>>160125391
Is this gonna be proof that Broly in the first movie could have beaten SS2 ((Teen)) Gohan?

>>160125468
Can't wait to see Kale get jealous of GODku

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>>160125391
Episode 105 preview.

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post moms that arent safe anymore

>>160125529
No because movies are in a different continuity.
Broly in the movie was a galaxy buster while Teen Gohan and Cell in the main story were Solar system busters.
Kale is a completetly different Character and if she can keep up with SS2 Goku she's already Universal in power.

>>160125510
>Now Chi-Chi doesn't want fucking Pan to be a warrior too

Christ what the fuck is wrong with this woman?

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I AM BECOME DEATH
THE RAPER OF MOMS

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18-san, Zeno is too busy raping moms, let's have some fun

>>160125625
woman need to stay in the kitchen

>get dragged along to a fight you're not prepared for at all
>best friend and new punching bag both ditch you to have pissing contests with middle-aged men
>get the shit kicked out of you

I'd be mad too.

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>>160125493
Reminder that it's canon.

>>160125391
Use the catalog you fucking retard
>>160119960

>>160125664
typo?

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Reminder that this is best girl from Universe 7.

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Leave the mom's of the universe to me

Can someone post the Nappa and Vegeta nice headcanon edit? I lost mine somehow

>>160125694
t. "let me rape your mom" anon

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is this what we call the ultimate cucking?

>>160125850
You can call it Super Cucking 2

>>160125391
I hope more meme videos happen after that episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sAiatvpEKc

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reminder gotenks is more usefull than kuririn

>>160125911
She isn't a mom, so she's safe.

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>>160125946
we've reached the pinnacle of zeno memes

>>160125942
Krillin and Roshi should have been booted for Goten and Trunks. At least with Tien he spent the entire Super timeline training and wasn't shown to have significantly lost power (like Krillin who went from guns hurting him to holding his own against SSB). That is until he jobbed in his own episode to possessed Roshi.

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Are we going to see this form eventually or was it scrapped?

>>160126073
It was raped like your mom

>>160126073
After Jiren rapes Kale's mom, she will unlock this form.

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>>160126073
Tomorrow

>>160125664
>not pictured

>>160126073
Ep. 101 will have her wake up from Jiren knocking her out and Caulifla will give her some speech about her potential that'll unlock this controlled LSS state.

>>160126134
I hope they show Frost and other 3 U6 guys

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>>160126073
i can't wait for the porn of this form the good kind

>>160126228
rape all the moms

>>160126228
End everyone's game

>>160126228
To rape your mom

So if this beserker form is a saiyan transformation, than can any saiyan obtain it? We thought Broly was a chosen one to inherit it or something, but in Broly's case he can't distinguish friend from foe. I wonder if Vegeta and Goku's new form will be a spin off of berserker mode but without the over-sized muscular body.

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>>160126286

>>160126323
No

>>160126073
Hope they change how the hair looks.

>>160126286
Hello Future Trunks has no feelingsfag

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>>160125391
>goku gets permanently disable on his back causing him to lose his ability to tingle
>he finds a way to power up without the use of his super saiyan transformations

>>160126411
Shouldn't Goku be happy with the tingling?

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>>160126362
i bet you wont look so smug after you find out i wiped you and your supreme kai out from an alternate timeline and stole that little bitch's time machine.

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>>160126411
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Explain this rape joke to me

>>160126503
check the archive

>>160126490
>roleplaying

>>160126286
I hate this reddit meme so much

>>160126142
Bulma isn't pictured

>>160126503
Check the last thread

>>160126545
Funny until the guy samefagged and asked "lol shoul i get a trip?"

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>no more fucking mai this is the real deal

>>160126515
Damn
I only come in here on the weekend and this general going at 3 parallel threads 24/7 this was going to be a pain in the ass
>>160126545
>>160126569
Thanks a lot

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>>160126490
I bet you won't look so smug when you realize a rapist erased you

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>>160126590
T-Torankusu!

>>160126073
There's a good chance it was just bad art.

>>160126653
its one method

>>160125529
Goku and Kale are both way stronger than anyone in that movie and we have no idea how their bases stack up compared to each other.

>>160125391
Use the catalog, you fucking retard

>>160119960
>>160119960
>>160119960

>>160126653
>is this how memes are created?

Yes, but not the funny ones.

>>160126728
>83 posts in
its too late

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what IDE/memes do you wish would catch on in these threads?

>>160126817
The ones that don't involve waifufaggotry.

>>160126835
Fucking kill yourself.

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>>160126817
GT Pan and Bra posting, for the chance of a drawfag here to draw more images of them both.

>>160126850
such as?

>>160126817
Japanese Broly memes

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>>160126411
>"ah, so you think god ki is your ally"
>SSB Goku attacks an unimpressed Jiren
>"you merely adopted god ki, I was born in it"
>Jiren shatters Goku's back
>Goku is defeated and tossed aside while Jiren goes after the rest of U7
>Jiren leaves him alive to watch his universe get deleted
>Goku returns after being massaged by Caulifla and getting healed via gypsy back tingles
>Goku gains his new SStinglelimitbreakxsuvivor form
would make for a good movie honestly

>>160125391
...
Who in the fuck is a rule 63 broly lesbian who's trigger is someone hitting on her girlfriend for?

No I'm serious.
Who is this character for?
Who are they appealing to with her.

They know that any ep centering around the U6 saiyajins = bad ratings and cali+kale are the worst ratings of them all.

Who thought this was a good idea?


Why couldn't the broly transformation have been the equivalent of their oozaru transformation and cabba was one of the handful of saiyajins on their world who are able to even go ssj1.

Why couldn't it have been Cabba who lost his shit and went full broly.
That would have brought in some fan bucks.


But OOOH NO one of the queers writing this show thought it would be hot shit to make an lgbqta trans looking version of broly. Because...you know...people are all waiting for that.

>>160126932
Yes.

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>>160126891
gohan confirmed br

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>>160126950
Just more Toriyama "Humor".

Oh you guys like Broly? Have a female version hahahaha(Tori Laugh)

>not only was fembroly a bait, she also decanonized Broly being anything special
Why

>>160126950
t. cuckbafag

>>160126989
That's Goten though

>>160125625
She remembers what happened to her mother.
She's terrified that she'll take after videl when it comes to fighting and become a hateable retarded cunt who can't fight her way out of a paper bag and would rather die or commit murder then lose a fucking sparring match.

Or worse, become a galactic punching bag who'l be lead around by her grandfather and his idiot friends.

>>160127015
my mistake
goten confirmed br

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>>160126931
>Goku returns after being massaged by Caulifla and getting healed via gypsy back tingles
>Goku returns after being massaged by Caulifla
>being massaged by Caulifla
muh dick

>>160126898
I don't really care as long as it isn't waifufaggotry. That is all.

>>160126950
As a Brolyfag, I prefer that the new canon LSS is a woman. It differentiates them enough that it's not hard to enjoy them both for their own reasons.

Definitely wouldn't have liked seeing Cabba was the LSS.

>Kale's form in the mag won't appear
Doubters BTFO again.

>>160127098
How else will she fight off the storm troopers?

>>160126931
>this whole post

Ow the edge. Just put this music on the background while this entire scene is happening and it is perfect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4

>>160126994
Dude, at no point has Toriyama EVER had any kind of fucking humor like that in any manga he's ever fucking drawn.
I can't even find a single chick who looks even remotely like broly in any of his works.

The one and only fucking serious battle that a woman has been in in DBZ was Videl and limpdick cucks and cunts who want invincible unbeatable female warriors are STILL bitching about that bullshit.

>>160127013
No, I fucking detest cabba. I detest all of the U6 saiyajins. And so does the entire fanbase. Worst of all they outright loathe the two offical female saiyajins.
Get ready for tomorrows episode to do so badly in ratings that the director and writers all get ready to leave before they are even fired.

>>160127098
I thought the one in charge of the manga fucking loves Broly?

>>160127142
>Dude, at no point has Toriyama EVER had any kind of fucking humor like that in any manga he's ever fucking drawn.

Until now.

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>NO MORE WARMING UP THIS IS THE REAL DEAL, 18!

>>160127085
As a DBZ fan, you're an embrassment and you are not my nigga.

This bitch is as trash as the rest of this clusterfuck and the failing ratings and tomorrows record low ratings will tell you all you need to know about what the audience thinks about this fuck up.

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>>160127179
Kiero

>>160127160
It's toei's bullshit dude.
You can't claim every stupid piece of bullshit is toriyama to either shill it to the fanbase or pass the buck when it comes to accepting responsibility.

>>160127218
That is no way to please your new mistress, 18.

>>160127218
18 is so beautiful.

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>>160127218
Honey please

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>>160127194
I've seen a lot of excitement for the Berserk rampage and U7 U6 saiyan team up and its no the first time we've seen big girls in anime

>>160127237
One day you'll grow out of the fanboy phase kiddo. Toriyama is a hack.

>>160127194
Why?

Because power level creep? She's the fucking LSS and we get to see that form hold its own against Post-Goku Black Arc Goku's SS2 form. Pretty big deal considering Broly was only maybe as strong as SS2 Gohan during the Cell saga.

Is it purely because she has a vagina? Like literally who cares?

>>160127194
Take a deep breath.

>>160127279
Caulifla x 18 would redeem Super. All would be forgiven. Can we get Turirin to prep 18 for dates with Caulifla and get Marron to call Caulifla her daddy?

>>160127237
You honestly believe Toriyama would never do something like that? Dude is a madman, just in the last arc he managed to pair fucking Mai together with Future Trunks.

>>160127124
That's what I was saying. She will appear. People were saying that it was just a mistake and that she would fight in berserker mode all the time.

>>160127319
I just need one doujin of that.

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>>160127319
>>160127367
>>>/u/

>like caulifla's hair and attitude
>She has some tiny fucking body.

Wut is the obsession with those stick figures for U6 Saiyans?

>>160125664

I thought they made 18 a normal human?

where the summerfags at?

>>160127319
18 would get torn apart by Kale.

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>>160127319
Yes

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Leave U7 and U6 to me

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DBS moms are for _____

>>160127298
Ask yourself something.
They are bringing back a fan favorite character after he died. Like..goku.

Except make goku a rail thin girl, and gay as france in springtime, and almost nothing like goku. Except she can go SSJ1 and has the same hair shape and general attitude about a few things here and there.


Would people accept her?

>>160127348
I remember trying to pair Trunks up with someone way back in the day and thinking only a girl from the original DB would look good with him. It was pretty crazy when I found out he got Mai.

>>160127506
Ignore and find better characters instead

>>160127506
impregnating multiple times

>>160127395
You lack vision, anon. Just imagine 18 telling Turirin to sleep on the floor because Caulifla will be sleeping with her on the bed now. Like a good hubby he will be worshiping their feet, licking every inch of their sweaty soles and toes while they enjoy their new married life.

>>160127559
No.
You want her to be cucked once Goku makes her a mommy?

>>160127428
18 was given an offscreen powerup comparable to 17.
She'd beat Cali half to death.
She'd stand over her grab her neck then punch her in the face till her hair stopped glowing.
She'd be all pissed and say "I had a tougher time with Vegeta"
She'd then WALK towards the end of the platform and hang her over the edge before dropping her off then flying towards 18.
They're going to try to take out Hit.

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>>160127575

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Name one girl worse than Caulifla.

You can't do it. Even Kale is better and she's shit. Go on, try, I dare you. I'll wait.

>>160127506
Breeding future warriors and breeders.

>>160127647
every girl

The super manga is the most uninteresting dry charmless and personality lacking piece of media I have ever read. While the anime is stupid as fuck even dumber than the manga most of the characters....well at least have some semblance of a personality or a character(Jiren doesn't count because he hasn't been give n enough to time to make an assumption). If you like the manga you should genuinely be ashamed

>>160127510
I don't know what "people" will do, you can go ahead and check out the ratings for the newest episode since it'll have Kale and Caulifla having the most interactions.

For me I'm fine with both characters.

>>160127588
18 would never do that to her mistress, anon. Also, Turirin would not let her treat Caulifla like that, he knows they truly love each other and he would try to keep them together like a well-trained hubby. Besides, 18 cannot do all that while she is being impregnated by Caulifla. Learn your priorities.

>>160127647
Chi Chi has been an insufferable fucking cunt in Super. But at least she isn't a total mary sue with back tingles.

>>160127698
i literally didnt read this post

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>>160127692
Which includes Caulifla, thus putting her back at the bottom right at the start.

Try again, Caulifag.

>>160127736
kys jobhancuck that doesn't even make sense

>No fit female saiyan with a toned sixpack

Feelsbadman.

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>>160127647
ningens and chichi

Caulifla is shit. Plain and simple.

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>>160127731
Chichi can do Kaioken without training with King Kai for some reason, though.

>>160127771
Isn't Caulifla gonna go USS in this next episode?

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Defend this shit DBZ cuckfags

>>160127779
Or you know her aura is just red. I mean Jiren's aura is red but he doesn't know Kaioken.

>>160127736
>>160127774
>>160127848
What's your frustration?

>>160127779
She's apparently part demon.
Her father was up until radditz stepped onto the earth, the strongest mortal on the planet.
And her mother was some kind of demon or something.

It's telling that Gohan is trained by a man who's considered the reincarnation of the devil, mastered the demon school of martial arts, and is fucking a woman named Videl, an anagram for devil.

>>160127848
No worries Goku will soon

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What's stopping Future Beerus from killing Trunks for being a time traveling sinner? Present Beerus is only so cool because he got Goku'd. Future Beerus will still be the petty asshole he was pre-BoG

Base Goku Black vs SSJ2 Caulifla. Who wins?

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>>160126950

>>160127886
He's also a lazy asshole

So does anyone know anything about the new form that Vegeta and Goku are getting? You know from that teaser picture we saw? It seems like it'll be way more OP than SSB, wonder what it'll be called and how they'll obtain it.

>>160127906
Black utterly stomps. Caulifla hasn't showed that she's stronger than Future Trunks. Base Black casually stomped a rage boosted SSJ2 Trunks

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>don't visit the general since the last episode
>it's filled with mom rape memes
What the fuck did I miss?

>>160128085
Check the archive, it only started hours ago

I miss Zamas. Anyone else miss Zamas?

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Soon.

>>160127136
you dont know who bane is?

>>160125391
Kale's got serious man face

>>160125391
wait what?

i look away for a few episodes and now there is a feminist broly there?
what is wrong with this show?

>>160128240
Is he raping Zeno?

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>>160125946
A new meme is born.

>>160127848
every time I offer you an explanation you spit on it and demand a different one. so fuck off you pedroburger

>>160128270
It doesn't matter who he is, anon. What matters is his memes.

>>160128318
She's also a lesbian and is gonna hulk out because her boss/crush spends time with Goku.

>>160127878
Ox-King was Roshi's second best student, though, Grandpa Gohan was his best student

Reminder that Gohan runs this thread and all Super threads.

>>160127411
how can people still believe this garbage? Does no one actually read/listen anymore to the dialogue? The dragon couldn't wish them back to human, it was beyond his powers, the most Krillin could wish for, was for the self destruction bombs to be removed

>>160125391
is TOEI RETARDED?

wtf happened to her face

>>160127928
A) Super Saiyan Hakai. It's purple and is obtained by absorbing a hakai sphere after getting control of it
B) Super Saiyan Blue 2. its just blue but stronger and has some new element added to the aura.
C) Super Buddha, a form only obtainable by ningen who have achieved enlightenmet and surpassed the gods
D) Super Monkey King. its just ssj4 but with some superficial differences and different lore behind it. obtained by stealing the food and drink of the gods

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>Goku has canonically gone x20 before
>He's only pushed to x10 as a God
>Very well could go past x20

The ultimate technique of the Gods, developed by one of their most lowly and garden-bug level ones in a shithole universe, is nearing completion.

>>160125391
Wtf is a Kale? Isn't that Broly?

I've never watched this show btw.

>>160128528
all you need to do to complete it is wish for an immortal body
or already have one that's close enough
good thing neither Cell nor Buu never figured out Kaioken

>>160128318
>i look away for a few episodes
it has been like that for several months now, where you send off to war or something?

>>160126659
>implying that solid motivation is needed for a villain to be effective
Don't make me laugh. There are a bunch of villains with good motivations that are boring as shit. Cell (and androids) was the first truely threatening foe in the series. With King

Piccolo and Frieza, you knew Goku's gonna beat them somehow in the end. Not without losses, but still. In android saga, it was different. A timeline where the heroes pretty much lost

was introduced, counterparts of androids who did that turned out to be a lesser threat compared to Cell, and the latter, due to his attitude and nature, appeared much more challenging

than previous baddies. In the end, he put up a better fight than any of them and was menacing until the very end, making Z-fighters put their everything into beating him.
Buu might've done more damage, but he was too silly.
>watered down Freeza
More subtle =/= watered down. That's one of the things that makes him more effective than Freeza, who was over-the-top evil near the end of his saga and was hard to take seriously

after his defeat on Namek.
>ur jus nostalgeec eks dee
I watched that part of the show just several months ago lmao. It's freezatards who are nostalgic and biased. Not that Freeza's bad, he was pretty rad as well, just not as good as Cell.

>>160128556
Paired universes, one has Broly if Broly were a lesbian.

>>160128579
My brother fucking hates that Frieza got on the team because it ruined the chance to see Buu learn Kaioken and go Kaioken x1000000.

Literally refuses to watch Super subbed episodes with me.

>>160128524
>B) Super Saiyan Blue 2
That would be the better option

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>>160128579
I don't think that's enough. I imagine it'd destroy your ki even if immortal, leaving you crippled until a wish can heal you. I genuinely think the Kaioken is something no mortal was ever supposed to learn, and no god was ever meant to actually use much less master. But King Kai lived in a hellhole with no oversight, what harm is there teaching one savant who can actually use it past x2?

Goku is the one and only one who is ever going to push it to its final form without it consuming him.

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>>160128630
your brother's a bit of a dip, huh

>>160128617
Ah, thanks.

>>160128630
>Kaioken
Good I hope he stays that way, why does everyone think adding kaioken to everything makes it better? It's the most cheap and stale move now-a-days, and it just makes SSJ BLUE even lazier as a means of getting stronger.

I want to see some more unique powerup techniques.

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who's back is tingling?

>>160128685
>something no mortal was ever supposed to learn, and no god was ever meant to actually use
its something King Kai developed on his own, I don't think there's any celestial laws regarding it bar what King Kai himself does/does not do about it

>>160128524
Super Monkey King? why not Super Saiyan Primal? :P

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>>160127928
The Dark Super Saiyan was first used by Goku. This technique takes you to a new crazy level of a Super Saiyan! A Dark Super Saiyan has powers way past regular Super Saiyan, but unlike the regular there are some side effects. To begin to achieve this mode your heart must be black, soulless, unforgiving, and ruthless. The only thing you would ever want to achieve this form is death and destruction! This attack also may alter your personality for good! Dark Super Saiyan is one of the most strongest Super Saiyan forms ever!

>>160128725
>back is LITERALLY tingling
the absolute madman

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>>160128748
Exactly, It's a God Technique and looking at how bad the higher levels react about every little thing, I figure it's absolutely not something he should have developed and taught. And it's going to end up destroying Heaven.

>>160128780
Sun Wukong, the Handsome Monkey King and great Sage Equal to Heaven, you twit. He stole from the gods both peaches if immortality and an elixir of immortality on top of erasing himself and his people from the book of the dead so that nothing could stand in his way

>>160128693
Well he does have legit Asperger's. Kinda wish I got tested too for the free shit and tuition, but no one bothered because I did well in school.

>>160128685
The only person to ever fucking USE the technique in canon was Goku in the first place.

King Kai never perfected it enough to ever use it well. Goku did that.

>>160128720
They pissed that opportunity away by adding in those shitty u6 saiyajins and depowering hiit in that unbelievably shit three part ep.

We could have had bad ass warriors from across the multiverse having cool battles in a multi tiered tournament on a dozen different worlds/universes.

But instead we got shitty saiyajins that the enire fanbase outright loathes and a bunch of shit tier jobbers that look like a bunch of interns shit them out over the weekend all fighting on a floating platform in the middle of fucking nothing.

>>160128819
Why do people not assume first that this is some kind of new Kaioken?

>>160128720
It'd be kinda cool to see Buu use it at the highest possibility just to see his body evaporate and regenerate as he's fighting.

>>160128819
>ultradragonball
Is that time again?
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random

why doesn't goku just use kaio-ken minus and cause a buffer overflow for infinite power?

>>160128592
>was literally 12 when he spazzed out over Cell
>develops headcanon based on nothing other than overwhelming emotions for a shitty fight because he was growing pubic hair for the first time

>>160128858
>King Kai never perfected it enough to ever use it well. Goku did that.

Exactly my point. I don't think anyone but Goku could push it past x2 without blowing their ki out or just not being able to get it out. Goku, meanwhile, is opening the throttle all the way to x20 against Freiza, and STILL isn't dropping dead like a sack of Tiens, and now we're years in the future to a nightmare end where, on the stage of the gods, Goku, shown master of a limitless power-multiplying tech, on top of divine power, on TOP of Super Saiyan, is about to cut loose the hardest he's ever had or been allowed to.

>>160128873
>his opponent unintentionally breathes in some of the vapours
>big pink fist bursts out of his chest from the inside

>>160128898
Goku hates cheats like that

He'd rather mash the button and train it up enough to hit xINF of his own power

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>>160128875

What does it mean?

>>160128940
does goku know about the paddlepop stick trick?

>>160128956
Maybe, but does he know about the vibrating finger technique?

>>160128954
You need to try the random link again

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>>160128836
Christ everything wrong with this chart.
>Great Ape not connected to Golden Great Ape
>"Black" and Rose considered separate forms when one is literally just base saiyan and rose is SSGSS
>A-type/C-type Broly forms separate when A is just a restrained C, C-type after LSS for some fucking reason
>Quake of Fury is a precursor to Rage for whatever reason, so is ASS2
Here's a better chart

>>160128917
>shown master of a limitless power-multiplying tech,
It's not fucking limitless.
It would even kill beerus if he used it incorrectly.
It's a technique that instantly explosively boosts your ki pool and ki output.
Unlike the safe SSJ where it simply multiplies your base output it is far more dangerous and destructive.

>>160129003
>It's not fucking limitless.

...as I was saying, the limitless Kaioken which has shown no upper ceiling save what your body and soul can bear, is likely going to be what he pushes more than Super Saiyan Blue.

>>160128836
The "mystic" form isn't actually related to SSJ or saiyans, as far as anyone knows.

Its original canon concept was it just unlocks all your potential, to the point that transforming doesn't even do anything. Toriyama at the time was writing under the assumption that the characters just couldn't get any stronger. Hence why Gohan doesn't get any stronger after being healed by Dende, etc.

Its current concept seems to be more that it's a transformation that doesn't use SSJ and rage, but has more to do with calm and focus.

Also some of those don't go down a path like that. Ascended and "Ultra"
(grades 2 and 3) could technically be used with SSJ2 or SSJ3 or Blue or so on, as they're just a method of moving ki around to enhance physical power. "Quake of Fury" is probably the most horse shit thing on there though.

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Part 3 is out , probably a bit late with this though

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12579489/3/The-Orange-Star-High-School-Massacre

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>>160128907
You keep telling yourself that, anon.

>>160129080
No, mystic form is litterally a gohan only form.

It's gohan's potential unrestrained by the need to use ssj.

As we've seen in the series, SSJ has been a crutch and limiter for Gohan for a long time. Without it he saw his true powerlevel potential revealed.

If someone like goku or vegeta did the boost, they'd have seen absolutely nothing comparable.
Why?
Because they're masters.
They've already mined all of their potential and are simply looking for new training techniques and skill and abilities and masters to help them climb even higher.

>>160129144
t. Gohan
Stop being a suicidal fag

>>160129249
>Gohan-only
Considering he obtained it by sitting in grass for a day while an old man read porno comics, I can safely say your head canon is overpowering your logic.

>>160129249
>No, mystic form is litterally a gohan only form.
>It's gohan's potential unrestrained by the need to use ssj.
It's literally just the old kai's magical ritual that unlocks potential used on Gohan, though activated in a manner similar to Super Saiyan. How much power the form draws out is irrelevant to the fact anyone could receive it.

Hell Xenoverse makes a point of having it be a form literally any race can use.

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>>160128836
>>160129001
>tfw SSRage was foreshadowed by Vegeta's SS Quake of Fury
>tfw it's almost the same form but the difference is SS Rage is the little bit of understanding of God Ki when training with Vegeta in SS Blue
Like father like son.

>>160129342
>>160129306
The old kai actually tells him and him alone that he should have his power unlocked. Says nothing to goku at any point however.

And a noncanon video game means nothing.

It's litterally something that only truly bore fruit with gohan.

Most anyone else would see negligable or mediocre results.

So wait. In the timeline where Zamasu stole Goku's body, why didn't they just use the Dragonballs to wish Goku back to life and for his body back?

>>160129411
He recently asked Goku in Super if he wanted his power unlocked. The only reason it didn't happen was because they ran out of time.

Stop being such a fucking Gohanfag. Christ, you Toonami 12 year olds.

>>160129366
I like Ikari. It's neat that all of Trunks exposure to divine power and beings has rubbed off just enough to let him juryrig some of it in his own fully mastered SSj2.

>>160129411
>Says nothing to goku at any point however.
Goku was not only dead, he also didn't show up until ritual was underway.

>>160129431
They probably did but it was too late and now that Goku is forever a green turd kai forever.

>>160129366
>>tfw SSRage was foreshadowed by Vegeta's SS Quake of Fury
>>tfw it's almost the same form but the difference is SS Rage is the little bit of understanding of God Ki when training with Vegeta in SS Blue
That's a gigantic fucking headcanon. Super Saiyan Rage was tossed in by Toei and is only in the Super anime for one, while Quake of Fury is in both the movie, manga, and anime. It was just meant to show Vegeta could briefly pass Goku in strength, even without Super Saiyan 3, and was no way meant to be foreshadowing of Rage. Where the fuck did you get god ki from either?

>>160129517
>That's a gigantic fucking headcanon.
Gonna cut you off right there and say whooooooooooooooooooo gives a shit. Cram it, obsessive.

>>160129411
>The old kai actually tells him and him alone that he should have his power unlocked. Says nothing to goku at any point however.
The Old Kai literally asked Goku if he wanted him to use the ritual on him. And like I said, how effective it is is irrelevant, as the form can literally be achieved by anyone who goes through the ritual. How autistic can you be?

>>160129366
>>tfw SSRage was foreshadowed by Vegeta's SS Quake of Fury
...
You mean that shit where Vegeta almost always gets pissed and momentarily becomes the strongest motherfucker in existence before getting tapped out and then getting his shit slapped?
That thing that's happened in fucking DBZ since the fucking frieza saga.

>>tfw it's almost the same form but the difference is SS Rage is the little bit of understanding of God Ki when training with Vegeta in SS Blue
....
He never fucking trained with Vegeta.
He got his shit slapped sideways by vegeta while he was in his fucking ssjb form and vegeta at no point explained a single goddamned thing about god ki nor does he fucking even undrstand it or was at any point curious.
Vegeta did say GETTING SWOLE AM BAD FAGGOT! LOLOLOLOL then punched him in the face!

>>160129559
>not actually reading my point on how what you said is impossible and why
>not actually refuting any of my points
Don't say things that are bullshit unless you can actually defend it.

>>160129614
I'm not the one you replied to. I'm just saying save your breath, fatty, it's the night hours and nobody cares how much you hate pedro and toyo and toei.

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>>160128875
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Zabas

The Zabas were an elite race of fighters even stronger than the Saiyans. Frieza took over their planet. Years after Frieza blew up Planet Vegeta he saw how powerful the Zabas where getting so he destroyed their planet. Only three Zabas survived their planet's explosion: Pili, his son Netta, and Gurin. However Pili was killed.

Pic related, its Netta

>>160129572
In super yeah.
Not in DBZ.

Remember in the fucking namek saga when guru did the exact same fucking thing?

It will be the difference between krillian's power up and gohan's power up AGAIN.

Only this time goku will have far lower returns then krillian did because he's better trained and fully mastered his potential as a fighter.

>>160129646
Tired enough I thought the thumb was Cauli for a second. She'd look good in red.

wasn't the point of Gohan getting the mystic form so that he doesn't require such an absurd amount of emotional effort to draw out his absurdly huge power?
like Goku said after he'd died, Gohan had gotten the absolute shit kicked out of him twice and lost the use of one of his arms yet he still had more than enough ki to obliterate Cell. he just struggles to dip down due to his psychology.

UP was a way to put that shit on tap rather than leave it as buried treasure he has to haul to the surface each time. That's how I understood it.

>>160129707
No. It was just a quick way to power up Gohan and get him back in the fight.

>>160129650
>le super isn't canon
So you're going to ignore any evidence that your argument is incorrect just because the source is Super? That's retarded.

>>160128495
>the dragon cant wish for someone to be human
>but it can bring a person back from the dead

>>160129572
Its gonna be weird after the tournament, Every Z fighter not undergoing the ritual. It would be stupid of them not to.

New Dub Episode out when?

>>160129650
>Remember in the fucking namek saga when guru did the exact same fucking thing?
>It will be the difference between krillian's power up and gohan's power up AGAIN.
>Only this time goku will have far lower returns then krillian did because he's better trained and fully mastered his potential as a fighter.
You can argue that how much strength the power-up gives might be different depending on the individual, but to argue that it isn't the same form is fucking stupid. Krillin and Gohan got the exact same power-up from Guru, even if Krillin ended up weaker than Gohan, and Gohan didn't have all his strength pulled out of him.

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>>160128836
>>160129001
YOU ARE LIKE LITTLE BABY

WATCH THIS...

>>160130158
is this a crusader kings map?

>>160128875
>http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Bregor
>http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Supreme_Gogeta
>http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Videl%27s_Revenge
I wasn't going to post what I found, but Kek I couldn't help it

>>160130158
>>160130183
kek

Ok honest opinion time. Yeah Krillin was out first, that was obvious and written clear since goddamn Dragon Ball pre-Z.

Nevermind who comes in second to be shot off. Who, among those who are destined to be Z-tier (Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Roshi, 17, 18), do you think will be LAST to be offed?

My best is on Roshi.

>>160130158
sweet mother of fuck, no

>>160129001
>Implying Goku can reach LSSJ

>>160130216
Goku, but he gets let back in on a technicality

>>160130235
did you even read

you didn't, did ya

I hate that autistic runt Zeno with a burning passion.

>>160130484
Zamasu...

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Someone had to do it.

So this will end with the our boys winning through some asspull and using the super dragon balls to bring back all the universes that were erased, and the next arc's "Big Bad" will be from one of the original universes that was erased before all this shit started.

>>160130677
>not having Zamasu as LE
>not having Kid Buu as CE

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>>160130158
Excuse me, why the fuck isn't Villainous SSJ3 connected to SSJ3, AND HOW COULD YOU FORGET SUPER SAIYAN POWER, WHERE ANIMATORS WERE FORCED TO LAZILY EDIT SUPER SAIYAN GOKU'S HAIR BLACK SINCE PIKKON WASN'T SUPPOSED TO SEE GOKU GO SUPER SAIYAN, AND DID SO WITH THE EXCUSE GOKU COULD ACCESS THE POWER AND MAKE HIS HAIR STAND WITHOUT GOING BLONDE. AND HOW ABOUT SUPER SAIYAN 2/3 KAIOKEN, WHICH CAN BE ACHIEVED IN XENOVERSE VIA KAIOKEN-BASED SKILLS SUCH AS KAIOKEN KAMEHAMEHA BEING USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE TRANSFORMATIONS.

2/10, this chart is shit

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If we accept that these 9 mindsets is all that you can have and be:
Which DBZ or Super character do you associate yourself with?

>>160125391
Is this a real pic?

>>160130158
>>160130746
I would also like to add Majin Saiyan on its own could be added to the list of forms anyone can use, and potentially add Super Saiyan Power in its place and connect it to Full Power SS

>>160130779
>not having Zamasu as Lawful Evil
>not having Kid Buu as Chaotic Evil

>>160130779
>frieza
>neutral evil
not saying you're wrong, but please explain.

>>160130746
SUPER SAIYAN POWER IS THE SAME THING AS FALSE SUPER SAIYAN!

BLACK HAIR, GOLDEN AURA, SAME THING!

As for everything else, I'll figure it out in an updated chart.

>>160130815
>Zamasu
>Lawful Evil
>Killing all the mortals is lawful?
>An assassin is not lawful?

>>160127279
lol are you role playing?

>>160130899
Obviously.

>>160130779
>Zamasu
>not lawful evil

>>160130821
Frieza doesn't kill people just for fun, or because of his fucked-in-the-head ""justice"".
As long as Frieza sees someone to be of use/value to him, he keeps them around, and even threat as his semi-friends, like Captain Ginyu.

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>>160128875
>http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Xaiyans
>Xaiyans

>>160130992
>If Zamasu is truly seen as lawful evil
>What does that make Hit?

>>160130876
Hit isn't evil. Killing is his job. Zamasu kills in the name of his ideals, not for shits and giggles like CE characters do.

>>160130779
Remove hit
Make zamasu LE
Make broly CE

>>160131023
True Neutral.

alignment charts are inherently bullshit

law/chaos alignment is determined by actual adherence to existing 'laws' in a very literal sense, and is applied after obedience to, or ignoring laws

having a personal code does not make you lawful, and being unpredictable does not make you chaotic

most good characters are lawful, most evil characters are neutral or chaotic

alignments like pure chaotic or pure lawful are extremely rare, and would require something like Q from star trek, or some hyporhetical impartial judge that doesn't even care who suffers or dies

>>160131091
deep.

>>160125440
Why doesn't alien trooper kick his ass?

>>160131091
Too complex throughs for /a/

Who's ready for threads to become even more chaotic tomorrow with redditors and literal underage?

>>160130815
>>160130992
>>160131024
>>160131058
>>160131071
>>160131196
Okay, okay, very well then. I shall make some changes.

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Leave Hit, Kale and Jiren to me.

>>160131091
>law/chaos alignment is determined by actual adherence to existing 'laws' in a very literal sense, and is applied after obedience to, or ignoring laws
have you ever actually read Moorcock?

>>160131091
god I am so glad I tossed D&D for GURPS as a kid

Protip: don't try to do Dragon Ball in GURPS

>>160131256
W-what are they doing

>>160131294
I can't imagine doing it in anything but FATE, and maybe exalted

>>160131334
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuBARASHI

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Our boy is back!

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Caulifla is the kind of girl who smokes all your weed then calls you a soft cunt for not having more

>>160131341
M&M might work with some hacks, but Fate would be best. GURPS just absolutely cannot handle the nonsense Dragon Ball keeps pissing around

Trying to figure out the kaioken alone gave me the shits

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>>160131406
Truly best girl

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Caulifla aaaaaaaalways wins Goon of Fortune. Always.

>>160131406
Reminder that Caulifla is a old school metal fan and her favorite bands consist of slayer, metallica, judas priest, black sabbath, gwar, ac/dc.

>>160131413
from what I've played of M&M, the rules for super speed would screw you over

>>160130616
Sauce?

>>160131495
yeah. she's def an AC/DC fan

>>160131495
And Wu-tang Clan of course

hopefully next ep will confirm who of the new guys is a beam preferrer and who is a ball preferrer

You cucks call people niggers and cry about blacks but forget to realise this show is now just pandering to sjws all because of waifus. Grow up and get laid. Pick and choosing you cucks

>>160131495
>>160131406
Aggressive cocky girls are the best. I want Caulifla to dominate and humiliate me for being such a pathetic human weakling.

I want to like DBS. Every week I watch it and for the mindless it's more DBZ it's fine.

Why did they have to ruin the entire world building and logic?

Characters that couldn't even rank past radditz are now on equal footing to characters super saiyan saga, but even worse characters that stomp super saiyan requiring SS2, SS3(Which are hundreds/thousand times faster than SS for each iteration) are suddenly on equal footing.

It makes no sense. We know SS was at a certain tier with variance. We know SS2 was at a certain tier, and SS3. We know SS3 get's stomped by X.

We know X required SSG to fight at all.

We know X still stomped SSG, so required blue.

SO WHY ARE SUPER SAIYANS ABLE TO EVEN SEE ANYONE USING BLUE EVEN MOVING LET ALONE COMPETE.

>>160131660
the show is trash and people cant see through nostalgia of dbz

>>160131658
I want her to laugh at my micro penis and tell me I should kill myself while I'm ahead.

>>160131707
I just can't stand the logical contradictions. None of it makes sense.

>>160131658
>submitting to cocky girls
>not competing
wrestling getting lewd is only fun when you put up a fight

>>160131660
Stop being retarded. The tiers are still there. The humans aren't trading punches with SSJ-tier guys, they're dealing with much weaker stuff, and being much weaker doesn't mean you have to be slow or unable to throw the enemy.

>>160131805
its written like some fan-fic you would see off of deviantart.

>>160131660
you are underestimating their growth.
when krillin was done training with Kami, he one-shot three saibamen at once with his scatter kamehameha. each was as strong as raditz. and that was before he trained with King Kai.

things got fucky from the android saga onwards because Cell and later Buu had crazy regeneration that meant you couldn't just beat them, you had to overkill them all at once

>We know SS was at a certain tier with variance. We know SS2 was at a certain tier, and SS3. We know SS3 get's stomped by X.
wrong. each 'stage' of super saiyan is still just a technique, which is more or less potent depending on the user. Kid Trunks could not have dominated Frieza like Goku did.

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>>160125391

>>160131660
You are retarded. All fighters in the ToP are not at comparable levels.

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Hey, mate, you spare us a durry?

>>160131920
What the fuck did you just say to me?

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>>160131931
A cig, mate. give us a smoke. Rolly or tailor, I'm not fussed.

>>160131505
Anon. Look. You play roleplaying games, right? Yeah you do. We both do. What is the first thing we learn how to break to Win The Game, in any system, EVERY system every that allows even a toehold into action economy?

Speed.

Thus, you do all in your absolute power to make sure Speed is not the only winner.

>>160131823
This simply isn't true. Don't get it twisted.

Character A < B.

B Unable to even see C moving, in fact entire subplots and previous established facts show this.

B being top tier Goku or others, C being SS.

A even seeing B moving, or even trying to fight or spar should be ridiculous enough. Established fact through PL and simple speech even B is thousands of times faster than A.

A sparing with B is horrendous.

Yet we have A sparing B, requiring B to go C and A still holding their own even though they might lose.

We have B sparing D, C sparing E, hell even some C's sparing Fs and Gs.

Each level being consistently in universe as if the previous level being unable to even track the next level with their eyes.

Sure we can talk about growth, but in universe some characters simply do not train anymore. Have reached their peak. Yet those A's are suddenly somehow fighting B's.

I'm not talking about krillin actually.

>>160131873
>wrong. each 'stage' of super saiyan is still just a technique, which is more or less potent depending on the user. Kid Trunks could not have dominated Frieza like Goku did.

We know this isn't true, AT the very least we know this has been retconned. Since in DBZ we can even show SS all being roughly the same level of initial power.

AKA SS would be between 10-20 initially. Sure SS can go as high as 100, but initially they all start at that base with variance. In universe DBZ it made sense, we even get rough in your face comparisons. If Frieza was a 9, any SS would have won.

We also know from DBZ specifically SS tiers were power and speed boosts, the down sides were how fast they drained the character, strain on body etc.

That was effectively retconned in DBS.

Hell this was even the case during BOTG.

>>160131508
https://exhentai.org/g/1086838/4aae5a80c0/
Page 33

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Do you consider Caulifla to be – hot, sexy, or cute?

>>160132313
she's a slut

>>160132313
Yes

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>>160132313
All of the above.

>>160132359
This desu

>>160132313
she's more cute than anything, like if scrappy doo was likable

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Why is Zangya the best girl?

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No, Kale, you gotta feel the tingles L O W E R

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>>160132406
>Scrappy Doo
>likable

>>160132313
None of the above.

>>160132411
because she raped Krillin

>>160128430
Gohan died you fucking mongoloid.

>>160132434
if

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>>160132444

>>160132452
So what retard

>>160132452
even in death, he's still No.1

>>160132461
>green
>purple
Is she giving him the dose?

>>160125664
>One of the last Sayians
>Has halo over head

>>160127851
>but he doesn't know Kaioken
you would think so right?

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Cauli scabs beer all the time and never chips in for a case

>>160128685
decent headcanon. would make sense if true, but immortal characters always seem to come with bullshit regenerative powers (like zamasu).

just because some asshole is immortal doesn't mean his scratches heal after 5 seconds.

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>>160132191
i ____ to ____ this _____

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What happened to power levels? Have the characters become so retardedly powerful that the numbers would be too high now?

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>>160125391

i want Kale to sit on my face.

>>160129001
Drop the legendary transformation branch and just note there's a broly flavour near the base ones.

>>160128685
The most obvious problem I have with all these exclusive powerups is it reenables power creep. Only the most popular characters (really, just Goku) are going to get any major breakthrough techniques, so restricting them as a marketing tactic to just him really doesn't help anyone.

Kaioken - and to a lesser extent, the ultimate path - are good examples of that. Neither has anything to do with being a saiyan, could technically be learned by the whole cast, but no one ever makes the effort. There's no explanation, and if there ever was one, it would be a half assed one that brushes it off as something that's just "not for them." When in reality it's just a marketing issue.

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Turles and Kale is proof that there are two kinds of Saiya-people: a vast majority that looks Eurasian, and a minority that looks Mexican.

>>160132670
>there's no explanation why they wont teach everyone kaioken

translation


>WHY WONT GOKU TEACH GOHAN KAIOKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEE


fuck off pedro

>>160132619
They got fucking stupid in Z, to the point that most of the cast literally were not allowed to participate in the story anymore, due to their attacks having no effect on anything. Even characters like Tenshinan and Piccolo to a lesser extent, whose lives revolve around training, became utterly useless.

Super treats PLs more like tiers, and goes out of its way to not mention how strong someone is or isn't. Honestly it's fixed and prevented a lot of problems, although especially the youtube power scaling fags just cannot let that shit go.

>>160132767
Gohan can fuck off.

I can't see many of the characters using Kaioken. Some have suggested Piccolo, but only because of his body. Which is kind of dumb, considering he still eats up ki to regenerate, so it wouldn't really be a benefit. Plus it doesn't seem like a very Piccolo-like ability.

The only member of the cast I could see it fitting onto is probably Tien. He's technique focused and already has the most powerful scaling move in the series, at the cost of his body.