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At which point mediocre isekai turned into just another seasonal

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At which point mediocre isekai turned into just another seasonal genre?

And why am I enjoying them all?
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Most of the time it's just cute and fun, comfy watching
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>>160114504
What we really need is more highschool battle harems.
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>>160114712
I had to increase speed to 300% to finish IS
England a best
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>>160114504
It just werks
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>>160114504
I'm enjoying watching isekai Jesus as he performs his miracles
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thank goodness the shitposters went off
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>>160114786
Neck yourself
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>>160114504
Why you afraid enjoying something on the first place? Harem is love, harem is life. Being isekai is just a plus.
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>>160114504
why not sci-fi isekai? it would be nice if one of these shows put actual effort into the environment designs and world, they're completely interchangeable.
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2011 - the rise of web novel isekai
2012 - sao anime unintentionally aided the isekai boom
2013 - smooth growth
2014/2015 - successful anime transition with NGNL, overlord
2016 - even more isekai to the point of banning them in some contests
2017 - manga isekai on the rise and most isekai getting into anime adaptation range (7+ vol)
2018/2022 -isekai anime boom
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>>160115117
>some contests
>its actually one and its kyoani's rigged one at that
c'mon now son, no disinfo pls
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>>160115117
>2011
DATABASE DATABASE
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>>160114504
>why am I enjoying them all?
The isekai world is a look int the authors deepest desires.
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>>160115146
Isekai downplayer begone, these are just the big ones, who knows how many small contests banned them.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-30/short-story-contest-bans-traveling-to-an-alternate-world-fantasy/.103755
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2017/05/22/anime-style-novel-contest-in-japan-bans-alternate-reality-stories-and-teen-protagonists/
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>>160115146
I think the Kadokawa one banned them as well.
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>>160114504
because all of the light novels became isekai and it is now trickling down.
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How many isekai anime does it take until you're burnt out?

It seems like a lot of people dislike them now, but I'm still finding it enjoyable.
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is Digimon isekai ?
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>>160114504
Shit taste, like most on this board apparently.

Oh boy! Harem, overpowered MC, and harem AGAIN? Just what I wanted. I love when bland protagonists fulfill my wishes.
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>>160115237
oh please, only /v/ hates on isekai
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>>160115352
Meant to type "rpg mechanics" instead of "harem" one of those times. Whatever
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>>160115379
No.
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So this Isekai Smarthphone Yadadawhatever is also categorized as romance.

Most romance series are pretty obvious. MC usually ends up with the first girl he sees. However, he meets twins in this one.

Who the fuck wins?
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>>160114504
reborn as a hot spring in a fantasy world.
Did isekai go too far?
http://lhtranslation.com/read-isekai-onsen-ni-tensei-shita-ore-no-kounou-ga-tondemosugiru-chapter-1.html
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>>160115318
Yes
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>>160115546
>first chapter
>he can already take human form
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>>160115671
Didn't the mage do that?
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Every anime is isekai because you self insert therefore getting isekai'd from Earth for a while. Isekai anime is double escapism, for when regular escapism through anime isn't enough and you need the story happen in an entire different world so it doesn't remember of anything from your real life by accident.

Eventually we'll have shows about people that write novels, about people that write isekai novels and about people that write about people writing isekai novels, and like this consecutively, adding another layer of meta-media every time.

And of course we must go in deeper.
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I think SAO, and the way it sold so well despite being awful and only getting worse, really kicked things off.

>>160115809
>Every anime is isekai because you self insert
Speak for yourself
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>>160115710
Yeah
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> they are rich as fuck at the second episode and they walk with a fucking demigod
> lets hunt rats in the sewers for sum copper, yay
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>>160115873
What?
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>>160115809
>you self insert
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>>160115279
That depends on you. People generally have a genre that they can just eat shit up.
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>>160115809
Well sometimes you get bored of seeing highschool
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>>160115928
OPs anime
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Purple long hair > samurai reimu > purple short hair
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>>160116013
Okay that's dumb as shit.
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>>160115117
What about western isekai
>Alice in Wonderland
>Oz
>John Carter
>Narnia
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>>160116031
>Purple
Your eyes are broken
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>>160114504
Why do people watch this trash?

I'm not memeing or trolling here. I'm genuinely curious why anyone is watching this garbage past episode 1.
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>>160116206
When you run out of good anime to watch bad anime is better than no anime
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>>160116206
Same reason why people like watching really bad trashy movies I gues.
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>>160116251
This.

I know Isekai sucks. But I'm bored and I might as well watch something.
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>>160116251
But Fate/Apocrypha is airing this season, and then there is your backlog.
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the only show on my watchlist.
oh and that princess shit.
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>>160115469
Literally all of them.
At this point in the LN he has 7 fiances.
A horny scientist in the past looked in to his future and told him he would end up with 9 wives. Every girl in the OP except the fairy bitch is a confirmed winner of the mc bowl.
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>>160116206
The extreme rate he gets powerful at is amusing
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>>160116303
>implying I'm not watching Fate/Apocrphya.
Also it's more fun to watch shows with /a/ as they air than work through a backlog that's probably equally shit.
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>>160115237
>http://en.rocketnews24.com/2017/05/22/anime-style-novel-contest-in-japan-bans-alternate-reality-stories-and-teen-protagonists/
>bans teens and isekai
based as FUCK. it's such fucking cancer there's no reason to even read the stories cause you'll waste your time.

>>160115379
you can't read japanese and haven't been into it from the start. it was okay 5 years ago, but now it's pure cancer to the point i stopped even checking web novels or japanese light novels anymore.
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>>160116408
Who are you quoting? Why would you only want to watch anime if /a/ is watching? Are you one of those ironic weebs?
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>>160116171
What color is it then? Looks like light purple to me.
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>>160115237
>>160116435
I can understand banning isekais, but why teenaged protagonists? Don't teenagers make up the sheer majority of the fanbase?
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>>160116448
It's clearly lavender.
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>>160116348
Amazing. Truly amazing.
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>>160116495
>Don't teenagers
look at the iconic old light novels like slayers and lots of anime from the 90's. it was a lot of adults in fantasy settings even if they were teens they were like 18+ years old and not middle school children with peter pan syndrome.

now it's common for light novels to go for like 20+ volumes where the character has zero real development and is still a child and doesn't age at all.
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>>160116679
>in b4 an influx of new LNs where the MC is a 21-year old university student who does immature things
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>>160116539

Are you a girl?
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>>160114504
They basically give you the same instant gratification for storytelling that you get from porn for sex.
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>>160114504
>And why am I enjoying them all?
You have low standards.
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>>160115546
We've had "turned into a sword" and "turned into an onsen", how do you top that?
>"I got reincarnated as another world. Yes, the entire world!"
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>>160116251
Read manga.
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>>160117004
There are no girls on /a/.
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>>160116206
I know this is really really bad, but this kind of story just activates something inside my dna, it just gives me this very familiar feeling like i was always supposed to live in a medieval world

i can't even blame anime for this i read chronicles of narnia when i was 8 and there was no return from that point, so i'll keep watching this shit no matter how awful it can be
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>>160118418
It could be worse. I grew up playing Sonic the Hedgehog since I was 4 years old.

I'm just glad I stopped playing after Adventure 2.
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>>160118418
Funny, using aijin like that
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>>160120962
>(1.
>(2.
The fuck is this shit, anon? Use 1) or 2. like a normal person.
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>>160116251
>eating shit is better than starving
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>>160120962
yeah what the fuck is that format uggh
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>>160121098
Depending on the situation it probably is,
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>>160117197
Better having low standards and enjoying everything you do than having impossibly high standards and hating all anime while complaining that the industry is dying all day.
At that point I have to wonder why not just get a different hobby.
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>>160116206
-Supply to demand: there was rarely any medieval fantasy anime to begin with so the influx scratches an itch.
-Escapism: many people dream of dying and becoming an OPMC with harem, half of them being beastkin, in a fantasy world.
-"I don't I just like this one good one" Konosuba, Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, Kumo desu ga, Tanya the Evil, Kenkyo, Shield Hero they like them for their own specific reasons, the rest is garbage.
-Hope for a good Isekai: Lot of these premises are pretty awesome if you think about it, too bad the shitty writing doesn't make any of them fulfill their potential, they'll wait patiently until it does
-Comfyness: Lot of these series have no drama, just the way a lot of /a/nons like it, a silly series with silly characters to take the load off.

better?
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>>160116973
University students if we're lucky. It's more likely we'll get a string of college dropout NEETs instead.
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>>160115054
Oh hey, this is the same impression I got too. After curing blindness I'm convinced there's nithing he can't do, so I wonder if the original LN has any conflict whatsoever later on.
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>>160121684
Yes, it becomes a muv luv clone later on and MC has to fight against shit that's immune to magic
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>>160114504
Isekai started turning into a seasonal genre when they started overtaking battle harems for the last couple of years.
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>>160122079
Asura Cryin' was painfully shitty, so much so that I can't believe it's even on a recommendation list.
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>>160117352
Then that world gets taken over by an isekai'd hero who was ran over by a truck.
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>>160117352
Would read the fuck out of that if the world started off as a blank slate and it was literally just world building.
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>>160116206
A lot of anime is bad, but this particular case of bad anime is at least easy to watch.
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>>160117352
>i died and when i woke up i was a used condom but thrown into the trash
the story is about his journey to the trash dump and how long it takes him to get incinerated.

the sequel is
>i was a used condom but now i'm a single cell organism
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>>160116348
>Except the fairy bitch

But she is the best girl!
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>>160117352
would read
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>>160114712
I need more Tenjou Tenge.
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>>160123010
>I'm a sadist but after being hit by a truck I awoke as a tower shield!?
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>>160123736
I think the only thing I dislike more than the isekai genre is how long & ridiculous LN titles can be.

>tfw the above sentence could qualify for an LN title itself
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>>160117352
>ch 1 - let me use my powers to manifest myself as a human on the earth

Dropped.
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>>160123736
I'd make it a masochist.
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>>160124342
But then where's the conflict? MC wants to do sadistic things, but he's trapped on the defense side until his user discovers the wonders of the shield bash.
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>>160114712
never have I came across one that I liked
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>>160124065
and you just know that shit is going to happen
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>tfw anons don't know about the notChina country that blames the MC for the alien invasion and also wants to steal his mechs
l e l
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>>160117352
I would actually read this. Sentient planets are cool as fuck and one acting in its own self interest could be pretty cool so long as he/she doesn't manifest themselves as a human and go on generic adventures.

I could be pretty cool if the civilizations that were present were wrecking their planet and a god places him as the planet solely so it can fight back. Humans vs Treant/Golem armys could be fun reads.
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>>160114504
I'm enjoying smartphone Isekai way more than I should be too.

I think its just something specifically about how its so generic and doesn't try anything at all unique that makes it oddly comforting. Like anime junk food. I can just turn my brain off for a bit and enjoy it.
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>>160124857
>treants/golems are super retarded and MC can't get them to do what he wants
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>>160116437
That's not what he said anon. He said its MORE FUN to watch with /a/, not that he ONLY watches with /a/. And hes mostly right if the quality of your backlog isn't that great (hence it being backlogged in the first place).
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>>160125358
All of his allies would be incompetent.

>Dragons too proud to do anything but attack whole armys by themselves and die
>Elves garbage at fighting outside of their forests which the humans just burn

MC would probably have to settle for having all the golems dig downwards trying to trigger volcanic eruptions/release gas to poison the atmosphere.
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>>160115117
>no mention of Mushoku Tensei, the one that sparked the boom
>only mentions SAO, the series that set up the conditions for the spark
NGNL and Overlord didn't even contribute much to the boom.
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.hack was a decade too early, it could've been the king of the isekai. and the based Red Knight would've been acknowledged as the best self-insert and the cute crippled girl would've agreed to bang!
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>>160115469
>Who the fuck wins?
The one good thing about isekai harems is that in most of them, everyone wins. In classic harems, only one usually wins.
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>>160126665
It was considered complete and utter shit when it was released and it would be considered irrideemable trash that's so bad that the hack games would bomb because of it.

.hack was a terrible fucking anime and it's mostly forgotten and thought very little of for a good reason.
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>>160126765
IMOQ didn't do well because they're mediocre at best games with an idiotic release format.
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>>160126603
>Mushoku Tensei, the one that sparked the boom

Nice meme.
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>>160126603
>>160127485

Not either of you, but which one would you say sparked the boom? Just curious.
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>>160127526
Not either of them, but I would say SAO, not because it was a "trapped in another world" type thing, but because it was a webnovel that became an LN and then an anime.
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>>160127673
nigga sao was made to promote the author other work with the fat pig that could fly
MT started the fire not goddamn sao
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>>160127801
>tfw fatpig has entire harem of older women
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>>160126603
>>160127801
Mushoku Tensei is a Tensei, not an isekai.
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>>160128178
SAO is even less of an isekai then.
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>>160128303
I never made the claim that SAO was an isekai. It's significant because it was a WN before it became a very successful anime.
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>>160127801
MT was in late 2012, rezero and shield bro even started before it, it barely even sells despite the viewcount let alone a starting a boom.

>>160128178
Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu
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>>160114504
It's just shitty LN adaptations following the LN trend. They ate up and shit out all the battle harems, so the only thing they have left are the overabundant isekai crap.

What's worse is that unlike harem anime, which all rightfully got shit budget and planning, there's one or two isekai anime that got much better treatment from their producers than average.
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>>160114504
I want to fug every girl on this anime
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>>160128178
I want whatever you're smoking.
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>>160114504
I want to fuck Youmu and Reimu
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>>160114504
Isekai = disgusting anime for horny man child
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Isekai will not reach its full potential until it has achieved multiverse travel.
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>>160130154
O
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>>160116345
Rin a best.
>>160116348
This is why this anime is a masterpiece. Polygamous MC lives in a world where he can take multiple wives and we get none of the lame love triangle nonsense of other animes. Just pure self-insert power fantasy cliche and mindless pleasure.

Touya is jesus, worship our lord and savior.
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>>160122079
This is missing Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records
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https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170219-00010008-realsound-ent
The Japanese blame SAO for the isekai boom as well.
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>>160130926
>blame
Strange way to write "praise".
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>>160130492
>pure self-insert
I couldn't read it because I don't want to self insert as a retarded person.
Even the protagonist of shit like Death March and Re:Monster isn't this bad.
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>>160131015
He's a low grade retard... he can still come up with some mostly clever ideas on how to use his null magic and his smartphone. He'd be much less retarded if he fucked his harem
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>>160114504
This is an isekai thread right? As I said before I will post my isekai story starting with the prologue.
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>>160131114
Prologue.
Class is boring as fuck. Why can’t the world be more interesting? Maybe… maybe it’s just me. Maybe I just have to push myself and do something different for once… Nah, too much work. When is the class going to end? I just want to go home.
Oh, the class ended already. That was earlier than expected. Maybe the lecturer was bored too. Well, it doesn’t matter. Now I just have to say goodbye to my friends, get to my car and go home.
Walking to my car I see a tiny glass bottle on the ground. I picked it up and inspected it. That’s weird. There’s like something moving inside the glass bottle. Curiosity got the better of me and I open the bottle. Disappointingly, there’s nothing inside the bottle.
MC: Ahahahaha… Another fucking disappointment.
So I put the top of the bottle back and put it back where I found it and went home. The trip home was boring. 30 minutes of nothing but driving and listening to the music from the radio. Why do I feel like somebody is watching me?
Now I’m home, what will I do? Hmmmm… Do something productive or social? Of course not. I’ll browse the internet of course. I can watch anime. Read manga. Watch YouTube videos. And even argue with people on the internet. The internet is great. I love the internet. But sometimes I wish that I could do something more interesting. Something different. I want to do what I want to do. Go where I want to go. Maybe go on an adventure in a fantasy land somewhere… That’s never going to happen but it’s still nice to dream.
Alright, I’m sleepy now. I have to wake up early again to go to another class tomorrow. Good thing the subject tomorrow is more interesting than the today’s subject. Goodnight me.
It was dark. Suddenly a light flashes out of nowhere. There I see a figure of a girl floating in mid-air coming to me. She hugged me, smiling.
??: I’ll make your wish come true master.
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>>160131114
Go for it. I'm waiting with baited breath, anon-chan.
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>>160131104
I don't know the beginning of the novel was retarded decision after retarded decision. I quit when he broke the antler thing and then the author acted like it was clever because I knew it was the author that was retarded at that point.
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>>160131137
wow sugoi!!
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>>160114504
I enjoy them.
Are they 10/10 QUALITY? Fuck no.
Will they provide me with mindless entertainment? Yeah sure
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>>160131114
If I may lend some advice. Use a pastebin instead of just posting it. Not so important here, but if your chapter is going to be more than 1.5k characters, it will be better than individually posting.

>>160131137
Seems a bit disjointed since you keep moving between past and present tense. Prose is kind of low effort, but I assume you intend it to be that way. As for content, there's not much to talk about yet.
Keep it up.
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>>160131137
Perfect 10/10 isekai-tier prose and character establishment, anon. Proceed for ten more volumes and you'll get an anime adaptation.
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>>160131332
Thank you for caring more for my work that what I care it.
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>>160131652
No problemo friendo.
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>>160114504
I usually watch and read Isekai stuff.
Isekai stuff are an instant watch for me each season, but holy shit couldn't I stomach this smartphone garbage.
Everything is just so bland that I was struggling to keep watching already by the halfway point of the second episode, so I skipped ahead and the guy fucking cures the blind duchess lady, I dropped it at this point.
This is the most inoffensive and by the books isekai I've ever seen, everything is just so bland, the MC isn't fun to watch at all it actually hurts to watch how bland and inoffensive he is, down to his voice and speech, the shit just keeps happening like it's some checklist and the animation is just fucking cheap as shit.
Don't even get me started on the smartphone shit.

I expected a show like this to have the MC just solve his problems with this piece of technology while letting his harem do most of the actual fighting. Like how in Oda Nobuna no Yabou the MC used his phone to play sounds of battle to scare off a small army by making them think he was some sort of grand wizard.
But no, on top of letting MC keep his phone, let it be charged with magic and let it still use apps and the internet, God also gives him enough strength to fuck almost everybody up as well as allow him to use ALL magic, even rare unique magic barely anyone can use, effortlessly.
What's the point of letting him keep the phone if God's still gonna give him cheat like abilities?
It should either be the phone, or the hero like abilities, yet this fucker gets both, making it so he doesn't fucking need to really on the phone like a life line because his dumbass made a bad choice like Kazuma.
For a show with Smartphone in the title, there's really barely any use of smartphone.
Not even for the girls I'm able to keep watching.
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Alright I wrote up a prologue for my isekai

https://pastebin.com/m7n591Pm

Read after the prologue. There are several other people in the world he was sent to that were also killed by trucks. They rope the MC into building a truck with all their combined knowledge and then they journey across multiple universes to get back to earth by suiciding with their trucks.
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>>160116164
The best western isekai is the Knight Wizard by Gene Wolfe. You're welcome.
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>>160132439
Not bad desu.
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>>160114987
>b-but I poop from there
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>>160132467
>Not His Dark Materials
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>>160131687
>What's the point of letting him keep the phone
get ideas from doujins how to exploit his harem when regular sex doesn't cut it anymore
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>>160131687
This is the tale of magical Jesus, teaching humility and compassion despite how much power you wield.
The scummy protagonist with a golden heart is an outdated trope. Now we praise magical Jesus.
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>>160132439
Oh yeah I forgot the title Trap Harem Truck Journey Through the Other Worlds - God is Trying to Turn Me Gay!
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>>160116679
Yeah because Slayers had a lot of progression and a defined target audience for people to identify with, right

>some flat bulimic jew whore that shit universe-nuking spells just because
>a literal psychopath swordman with brain issues
>some bipolar chaotic-good violent bitch
>a edgy autistic subhuman with homosexual feelings repressed for a blind old man that identify himself as a graveler
>one of the 3 most powerful demons alive, a fucking genocidal maniac and a deceiver bitch hang around with the "heroes" somehow and kiss-rape the main character
>a literal who dragon that want the dick of the demon that almost wiped her entire race because muh original writing do not steal
>some megamilk bitch that invented the ojou laugh to fuck our lives forever

And slayers is not even a fucking Isekai
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>>160116206
Honestly I think it's mildly refreshing that his OP powers are pretty much just used for solving minor problems and helping people along the way. If it ever gets to a big bad/combat focused plotline I will probably drop it though.
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>>160132641
I'm not an expert on the subject but I don't think Naga was the first anime character to do the OHOHOHO laugh.
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>>160132589
>Implying Jesus isn't more fun than this MC
The guy constantly talked about swords and preparing to fight.
He flipped tables and got shit done.
He once made a whip and whipped a bunch of Jews for doing their business in the house of the Lord.
When he saved sluts from getting stoned to death it was just to tell them to cut that shit out and stop taking so much dick.
Jesus was a pretty cool guy, this MC is just terrible.
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>>160132835
Sounds edgy.
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>>160115546
Chapter 2 when?
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>>160114504
dick the twins
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>tfw you exclusively watch battle harems and isekai
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>>160134216
Why would you limit yourself like that?
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>>160134312
Because he's a shit eater
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>>160134376
I mean, I also watch the seasonal isekai and battle harem, but there's also plenty of other good offerings as well.
This season I'm watching the trap isekai one, but I'm also watching stuff like Hina Logi, Aho Girl and Made in Abyss.
This goes beyond eating shit.
This is going out of your way to eat shit and only shit, despite there being other things on the table to wash that shit down with.
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>>160117352
Vending machine
Look it up, it's real
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>>160134699
Its also got licensed and will probably get an anime
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>>160122079
Never a single image contained a bigger ammount of shit inside of it
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>>160135219
It's a compilation of battle harems. What did you expect?
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>>160135219
Show me a picture of your waifu and I'll point one out for you
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>>160122079
>no kampfer
one job
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Was reverse isekai ever happened?

I mean, ded-MC-kun go to a world where Elven scum do the rape and carnage Orcs are pansy mages and dwarfs are beardless vegans?
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>>160135826
>where Elven scum do the rape and carnage Orcs are pansy mages and dwarfs are beardless vegans?

That's called south America.
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>>160115671
Holy shit that typesetting. Whoever did this must have lost his eyesight years ago.
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>>160122079
>no Hundred
I thought they called it Hundred cause there've been 99 high school battle harems before it
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>>160135826
Fuck that, we need more Hatakaru Mao

The great satan and the hero are transported to the real world and have to get minimum wage jobs
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Ahahaha. The other isekai thread got archived. You niggers actually reported that shit. Hilarious.
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>>160135996
I don't need to see emilia's ugly mug.
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>>160136019
I meant the genre of Isekai but the other way around

I mean, who honestly wants to see Emilia
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>>160135998
There were 3 of them
Although it's odd that the archived one had the most replies
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>>160136037
Me.
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>>160136037
Me.
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>>160114504

The two sisters are moist and delicious, will enjoy myself in them quite a lot.
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>>160135219
Color wars and Seikishi are nice
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>>160132866
Guy got crucified on a cross, rose from the dead, and now his body and blood is being feasted upon altars the world over.

Sounds pretty metal if you ask me.
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>>160122079
God the Regios anime went full retard in the end.
2nd season together with Legendary Heroes s2 when?
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>>160136550
>tfw you realise that jesus was just an edgy protag with an autistic fanbase
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>>160124458
I unironically liked Hundred. But it was the first one that I watched, and the only other time I've even remotely seen the trope was Final Fantasy 8
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>>160136550
Now I see why I must follow Jesus.
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>>160127526
It was definitely SAO. Which led to LH being popular and Overlord. Then they moved from the MMO schtick to a modern character trapped in a fantasy world. Not sure which was the first LN or WN or whatever to do it, but whichever one it was is the father of this new wave (I mean because the idea itself is old as shit, but the idea of nerdy characters is the new part of it) if SAO is the grandfather
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>>160114712
>more battle harems

It's all been downhill since Absolute Duo desu.
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>>160114987
What is that face trying to convey
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Why are there only like 2 isekai where MC is reincarnated as a girl?
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>>160136749
Absolute Duo was absolute shit, Julie was cute and the OP/ED were pretty good, but it was so generic it hurt + other girls were garbage.
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>>160136914
Because genderbending is a shit gimmick and either comes off as gay or forced, but it certainly barely gets depicted right.
The only example of it done well, off the top of my head came from the Spider reincarnation WN. And that was a supporting character, not the MC.
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>>160114504
>And why am I enjoying them all?
Bad taste.

And not cause isekai in general, isekai is as good or as bad as any other fantasy works, there is nothing wrong with isekai, but that particular show is awful at so many levels
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>>160137037
>he fell for the absolute duo is bad meme

I feel sorry for you.
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>>160134598
>the trap isekai one

What the fuck am I missing?

Only isekai I see on this season is this one and THE COOCK
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>>160137078
You should feel sorry for me. It was the only show I watched that season.
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>>160137078
But it is bad.
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>>160137164
Y-you didn't watch World Break or Fafnir?
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>>160135713
Here
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>>160137202
I remember that season had like 4 battle harems total and a bunch other awful shows, one of the worst seasons in the recent history. I was busy with Neptunia steam release and work, ended up watching only Absolute Duo. Those 3 months were scary.
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>>160137314
Never forget.

There are retards who actually watched all 5 of this shows every week.
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>>160137094
Dude really?
Don't you even check what's airing this season?
Also, is the Cook really isekai in the context that's used here? The guy doesn't even leave the damn restaurant and what we get from the other world might as well be regular fantasy.
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>>160137365
Jesus Christ, it was 5? Even worse than I remembered.People watched it mostly as a challenge of endurance, but could as well cut yourself with a knife 5 days a week and the result would be the exact same.

Absolutely disgusting. I think Isuca was proclaimed to be the worst of them.
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>>160137037
Nigger Absolute Duo is good, Julie a best.
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>>160137432
Isekai is a fucking setting. There's another world and people are getting transported to that other world.

Of course it's isekai.
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>>160136265
One of them is actually scared while the other one kinda wants it
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>>160136550
O MY CROSS NEN
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>>160136265
god this drawing is so poor.
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>>160131687
where can I subscribe?
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>>160130492
'Self-insert' doesn't exist for third generation Otaku, nor is this kind of stuff made for that purpose. Otaku see artificial spaces as exactly that - completely dissociated from reality. Real world simulacrum (physical ones at least) have very little bearing on what kind of fantasyscapes they consume. This is evidenced in the fact that many Otaku actually identify as the girls in many of the shows they consume, and in fact you yourself are likely identifying as the girls in this show without even realising it. It's not 'self insert' because that implies the real world 'self' having any sort of involvement in the fantasyscape. No, EVERYTHING about it is fantasy. They completely embrace the Otherness of the characters to the point where their 'self' doesn't even exist to be inserted anymore. It's something else entirely.
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>>160137979
>Real world simulacrum (physical ones at least) have very little bearing on what kind of fantasyscapes they consume.
>implying fantasyscapes and simulacrum are somehow different

I think the rest of your analysis is mostly spot on.

I just realized I want a book of /a/nons trying to explain anime by making allusions to ideas in philosophy.

Comparing otaku's lives of living in their weeb caves to the allegory of the cave sounds like a very free example.
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>>160137365
World Break is a masterpiece
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>>160137600
Underrated
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>>160138240
>implying fantasyscapes and simulacrum are somehow different
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I was trying to make the point of just how hyper artifical dissociative fantasyscapes are, but you're indeed correct that they are made up of simulacra by definition.
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>what if jesus is an isekai character

i mean i'm enjoying it because how absurd it is but still...
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>>160137094
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>>160138508
I think that's meant to be the joke. Where most isekai protags struggle in the beginning, this guy is literally god's gift to the world and successful to the point of farce. I don't want to say it's subversion because the show is still pretty derivative, but I think it's meant to be a big gag.
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>>160137662

They find ways to cut the budget. I'm hoping they're blowing it on some really good weed.
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>>160138583

I can't argue with that one.
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>>160138672
Characters also barely emote or move around, every interaction comes off really cheap.
And the fighting is mostly stills.
Goddamn, I guess the studio is showing just as much effort and ability in the production of this as the author of the light novel
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Watching something knowing it's trash is fun too sometimes.
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>>160136037
me
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>>160138583
>it's meant to be a big gag
4U
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>>160138828
>it's dumb because it's supposed to be

This is what anime has become.

Isekai is now The Room of anime.
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>>160137365
I watched all 5 and they were all trash.
World Break is probably one of the shittiest writing I've ever seen.
Every fight was just:
>Oh fuck I'm losing this battle
>OMOIDASHITA
>Asspull his way to victory
Fafnir wasn't much better.
At least Testament had good music.
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>>160131137
Since the other thread I've posted this is already archived. I'll just post it here since I've written it already.
Chapter 1 + the previous prologue
https://pastebin.com/VBsKh0ym
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>>160139224
Does BG stand for big guy?
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>>160139290
For blue girl.
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>>160138583
the problem with no struggle is that he is too Jesus right now. Either he become really OP and no challenge or absurd power level battle

from his design, i thought he gonna be a douchebag/rogue styled isekai protag thats just fooling around and having fun with his OP power. Not jesus. Also the smartphone have no role at all in this episode
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>>160138828
>literally this thread
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>>160139354
smartphone plays minor roles until he raids the holy capital
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>>160139433
then why not name it >>160138508

since that name is more fitting. And somehow the LN is a "hit" in japan? the fuck?

Maybe other possibility is that this LN is the only one with balls to go in full harem and not pussy out, hence otaku in JP love it
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>>160139094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xslyoK9uobE
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>>160139509
Lad, there's a shitton of WN/LN with decent harems out there, and no its not a hit, it just sold well enough to get a budget adaptation.
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>>160137289
Who is that semen demon
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>>160140694

That's the Rape Ape.
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>>160114786
China>France=Germany>England>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Japan
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>>160137365
yuuurds
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>>160137432
Oh is that a trap?
Holy fucking shit
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>>160114504
>And why am I enjoying them all?
Because you hate this world.
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>>160139224
Sugoi anon. Sugoi.
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>>160137979
>third generation Otaku,

eeee
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>>160127526
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This was some kind of Isekai too, right?
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>>160147349
It's more of a reverse isekai, seeing as it's a fantasy creature who arrived in a normal world.

Also, she isn't even stuck in there, she can go back home whenever she wants.
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>>160147452
some of the dragons can't go back on their own
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>>160147349

Only in the loosest sense, like Kobayashi's vagina.
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>>160131137
I'm not sure if you actually tried to make it good and failed or just perfectly imitated the lack of talent so many isekai authors have. Either way, you're a genius in a way.
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>>160148154
The manga confirmed Kobayashi is a virgin though.
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>>160147680
such as? lucoa and kanna right?
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>>160148154
Kobayashi vaginia is and will forever be, brand new

>Error: You are temporarily blocked from posting for violating Global 3 - Garbage Outside of /b/.

What the fuck, this is my first post today, fucking chink moot
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>>160148467
If you have a dynamic IP (Such as phone posting) you occasionally pick up banned IPs.
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>>160116348
>>160123017
Fairy ends up being 8th wife.
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>>160147452
Why don't we have that in isekai shows any more.
It was great in Dunbine when the tables turned and people from Byston Well reached Upper Earth.
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I like the pure slave girls archetype in isekai.
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Fuck isekai, we need more GALS
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>>160150985
Why is purple the most slutty panty color?
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>>160150985
Why not both?
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=902
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>>160148467

A pussy that never gets the Dragon D might as well be called a pee-hole.
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>>160151218
toooooru have no dragon d
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>>160151044

It's the same color as sea slug juice.
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>>160151409

Then what's with the big bulge in the skirt?
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>>160151825
Thats a tail, it can't be used for penetration
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>>160150961
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>>160151928

Not even oral?
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>>160152011
Kobayashi refused her tail countless times, he is a pure being
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>>160150985
sauce on the leopard style thong one?
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>>160153333
If you fap to that you might get aids
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>>160153569
Fucking kill yourself
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>>160115167
That was 2011? Fuck, time is moving fast.

JUST LIVING IN THE DATABASE
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>>160153569
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>>160138508
>jesus is an isekai character
You can't say that unless the other world is actually hell.
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>>160116164
Wouldn't technically Harry Potter count as western isekai?
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>>160154862
no because everything takes place in our world
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>>160149489
Watch Yuusha Yoshihiko series, it's not anime but still good.
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>>160132641
Ojou-sama laugh predates Slayers by decades.

>>160134598
People are retarded.
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>>160132467
>not remembering best isekai of all.

Best isekai was made in the west Samurai Jack
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>>160114504
OP's picture makes them look like conjoined twins, and I think that would be a great way to redeem this show.
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>>160154915
that spoiler

fuck off and go back to /co/
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>>160114504
Cause they're comfy and always have cute girls.

Also, smartphone isekei mentioned using his "steal" spell for pantsu. Is that Konosuba rip off? Or has this been done to death by them all
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>>160131137
This is so fucking bad. I'm letting the plot/characters/everything slide, but the prose is fucking kill me. This thing reads like a 3rd grader's book report.
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>>160154947
Where would they be conjoined at??
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>>160132467
So the writer that steal his plot from naruto?
Why did nobody shit on him?
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>>160136914
Where are the isekai with female MCs?

Where are the isekai with female MCs being reincarnated as men?

>>160151044
Sexy warmth of red, cool 'no touching' aura of blue.
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>>160137600
I chuckled audibly. Well done, anon.
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>>160155108
This has been done for fucking ever. Even in the old days of RPG games, rogues could generally use Steal to steal an enemy's equipment. Obviously pervy teenagers playing these RPGs would fantasize about it being able to steal underwear too. That's why it's so ubiquitous.
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>>160155130
He is a western writer.
They steal shit from the east while denying their influence all the time, just like Tolkien and Gygax did.
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>>160154902
Hogwarts and whatever that magic shopping district was called are in our world?
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>>160155468
Yes, just magically hidden. This should not be hard to understand.
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>>160155597
Magically hidden FROM OUR WORLD.
It's like they don't exist. It's like they are in a different world (read:異世界).
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leave isekai alone
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>>160155132
>Where are the isekai with female MCs?
Plenty of them exist, they just aren't getting anime adaptations
>Where are the isekai with female MCs being reincarnated as men?
These, however, are pretty damn rare
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>>160122079
>Ichiban Ushiro Daimaou anime being on a recommended list
I would sooner re-watch the entirety of Infinite Stratos before I touched the last 3-4 episodes of that.
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>>160122079
Why did someone even bother to compile this list?
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>>160157722
I think it's supposed to be a joke.
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>>160137314
>>160137365
Wasn't there also a season that had two battle harems that were almost literally replicas of eachother? Right down to "MC gets with a girl early on, and has also has a little sister character who wants him too"?
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>>160157845
Asterisk War and Chivalry of a Failed Knight? Knight was actually fairly decent, at least compared to Asterisk War which was completely by the book generic battle harem.
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>>160122672
Season 2 was good shit you pleb.
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>>160116164
>What about western isekai
>>160116164
>What about western isekai
Yeah, like in Greek Mythology? People traveling to Hades, to the land of the Amazones, to Colchis, the Anabasis, or even to Troy when it was turned into a legend.
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>>160114712
NO
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>>160159463
i think he meant narnia and yankee in king authur's court, but you ain't half wrong with the classic greek stories
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>>160159626
>Written 60-150 years ago

What examples of there are more recent isekai fantasy?
The only one I could think of was His Dark Materials.
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>>160116206
Yeah.I don't get this at all.I agree its kind of cute and comfy to watch so I just watch clips from youtube and does'nt actually watch the full show.
But I still don't get how this has a higher viewership on mal and kissanime
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>>160159807
>so I just watch clips from youtube and does'nt actually watch the full show.
>But I still don't get how this has a higher viewership on mal and kissanime
you have to go back
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>>160151409
>>160151825
>>160151928
>>160152011
Tooru can transform into a male.
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>>160159856
No
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>>160159742
Wizard of Oz
John Carter of Mars
Wizard of Venus
Pellucidar
Dante's Divine Comedy
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>>160126665
SAO took off because it appealed to the lowest common denominator.

Normalfags can't even stomach the amount of dialog in Log Horizon, let alone fucking .hack.

Meanwhile Smartphone is entertaining (at least so far) because its the absolute epitome of mindless unchecked Isekai writing in which they took all the jokes/criticism that people had been spouting about the genre for years and turned them up to 11.
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>>160160616
Oh shit, so Smartphone is like a satire of the genre? I might be into that.
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>>160160440
>more recent
>1900
>1917 (also not really isekai)
>1970 (also not really isekai)
>1915 (also not really isekai)
And finally
>1320
Your definition of "recent" must be really broad
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>>160160668
not intented as satire but it works as one due to the factors anon said.
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>>160160668
No it's not satire. He's just enjoying how unintentionally terrible it is.
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>>160160695
John Norman's GOR?
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>>160159742
Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever?
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>Start reading slave harem
>Right off the bat skills and RPG mechanics
>MC goes into depth about it while he fucks around with the character reset
>Several Chapters in still no slaves or harem
>He only picked the must difficult language
>He needs a translator half the time
>He has no common sense in a world where RPG Mechanics are only half known
>More chapters in still no slaves or harem
>Delving into a dungeon
>Doing experiments with jobs and skill sets
>finally slaves
>gets shown a QT Maid Beast Woman
>They are expensive as fuck
>Has to grind dungeon
>several chapters still no harem
>does a bunch of grinding in dungeon
>Still not enough cash
>Last day before QT Doggo Maido gets sold
>Kills a bunch of thieves and gets Slave
>Still doesnt have enough common sense in the world
>Asks doggo maido
>since he can fuck around with character reset he is doing shit that goes against common sense
>First night, fucks his doggo maido
>Lots of experiments later
>gets qt dorf girl

Im up to chapter 40 right now, and its trash, its complete and utter trash, but for some reason, im enjoying it.
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>>160161711
Ah there we go. Something more recent than 2000 even if the series started in the 70s.
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>>160161813
>for some reason, im enjoying it
I enjoyed it too and just attributed it to the fact that it's a comfy SoL.
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>>160161813
>and its trash, its complete and utter trash, but for some reason, im enjoying it.

That's sum up all western literature if you actually look closely at their plots and their excuse of it..
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>>160162025
90 percent of all things is pure shite
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>>160162009
>attributed it to the fact that it's a comfy SoL.

I think this might be it, theres no evil god, or dumbass plot and forced drama, Im seeing lots of parallels with Mushoku Tensei where the parts I enjoyed the most were the SoL.
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>>160162025
>I'm retarded
Noted
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>>160131687
You read my mind there, anon. This whole show has an interesting that could legitimately be good and entertaining: an otherwise unnoteworthy and perhaps even somewhat bland guy gets sent into a world of might and magic armed with only his smartphone. That smartphone alone is enough of a lifehack to make him a very powerful and influential person, but he'll have to be intelligent with how he uses it. It creates a way for him to overcome challenges, rather than ways for him to flat-out ignore them.

Hell, I wouldn't even fucking mind it if the guy went full autism and went through various online medical journals to teach the Duchess' lackeys how to do eyesurgery to cure her blindness, anything would be better than "he just does, lol".
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>>160162154
I am sure you can name severals that have good plots since you believe otherwise.
Now, try.
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Any of you lads reading a hero's war? last update was like 2 months ago what's happening?
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>>160117352
Mogo pls socialize
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>>160132439
I also wrote a prologue.
https://pastebin.com/aPte18g8

The rest of the story is about building a dungeon. Can't decide whether or not to introduce RPG mechanics or not.
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>>160114504

I am waiting when he invent Chess for drop this shit
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>>160162223
Anathem
ASoIaF
Discworld

Went with some variety
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>>160130492
that must be the blandest harem ever.
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>>160163777
ooh there's far worse out there my boy
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>>160114504
Where the fuck is Overlord S2 and Konosuba S4? It's the only one that matters.
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>>160114712
Battle harems are old and busted, that ship sailed several years ago with shit like Mahouka
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>>160163930
Overlord season 2 has been announced, hasn't it?
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>>160164532
No
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Any interesting isekai LNs out there with good art but no raw available? I got some leftover points that will expire in 7 days and am looking to spend them.
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In the end, Isekai is just a regular fantasy world. It's so damn popular and fun to watch because it's a new fun perspective, even more so when you combine RPG elements when everyone likes games nowadays.
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>>160164585
Yes? It got announced ages ago.
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>>160164889
I lied
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>>160165107
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dumb satania posters
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>>160165143
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>>160165344
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>>160163930
>Konosuba S4
There isn't even an S3.
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>>160165107
>>160165143
>>160165344
>>160165394
You just have a whole Satania folder don't you?
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>>160165545
Yes
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>>160137432
I'm glad I opened this thread just to see this picture and check out the show. Watched for the cute "girl" and ended up with a pretty cool mecha show so far. Also, OP's show is refreshingly simple, and I love how it plays everything completely straight.
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>>160165545
Even so, somehow, just somehow, it's still less pathetic than philately (stamp collecting).
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>>160114504
All this show needed was a better animation budget.
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>>160114504
~2014
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I'm m fucking hungry and that isekai about food is not helping
Also, everything is simple as fuck, I guess jap cuisine is stuck in medieval ages since food related anime either do simple as fuck food or wrong as fuck foood like that shit loli anime
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>>160165545
Maybe
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>>160162267
Hiatus.
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>>160167475
dang it, really digged cato and landar being a qt couple
well, at least release that witch can tie me over for a good while
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>>160155123
Hey anon. That's rude you know. I'm trying but I'm not good with prose and shit. My teacher always said to me never to write stories but I never did listen to my teacher.
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>>160167720
They got together? I dropped it a while ago because I thought she was annoying.
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>>160169223
aye, he even managed to heal her relationship with her father, now working on how to cure her dementia
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>>160138847
So it's a faithful adaptation?
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>>160169132
If you're actually the guy who wrote that, then let me give my thoughts on it. First of all, I understand that it's the guy's thoughts we're reading, but that kind of simple sentence structure repeated over and over isn't very fun to read. I didn't bother reading the rest of the story even though you posted a link because the beginning didn't make me want to read anymore of the story, so I can't comment on that. Hopefully it's better than the prologue, though. Also, this is more of a personal preference, but I don't really care for everything being narrated by the MC. I think that's what one of the other anons might have meant when they said it read like a child's writing.

Having said that, it's always good to see people actually try to work on their dreams, so I'm hoping you either get better and/or find people that can appreciate your work.
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>>160162768
And chapter 1 as well.
https://pastebin.com/p5JDGMx5
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>>160169515
Thank you anon for that insightful review. I will take it to heart and bury it deep in me just like my emotions.
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>>160170509
if you are lucky, those make your anime /a/ threads usually have one or two anons with some decent tips
even got a help once with my meme revenge plot
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>>160164397
>shit like Mahouka
If by the ship sailed you mean Mahouka can't be topped then I agree with you.

Mahouka's world building is fucking based.
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>>160170750
Oh yes, i too love reading about how the public transportation in japan is so good, people don't even buy cars anymore.
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>>160170929
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>>160136749
rakudai was good compared to its contemporaries but it's not a harem
>>160114786
it was a fucking struggle for me to finish infinite stratos a couple weeks back just so I can get into the waifu war threads
Char best girl
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>>160171004
No need to be hostlie you dum dum, i liked mahouka and watching the show with /a/
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Just because isekai is overused doesn't mean that it is bad. A lot of them are a lot of fun.
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>>160171458
that won't stop /v/ scum from shitposting about it
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Volume 12 illustrations is out.
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>>160171632
>tfw konosuba got haganai'ed
7 curses upon thee editor scum
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>>160131137
Instead of stating things such as "the internet is great" you should describe them so that the reader naturally reaches the conclusion you desire. For instance, before you wrote "the internet is great" you wrote many great things about it, characterizing it as great, not stating it as such. Therefor the statement, "the internet is great" is redundant, and bad writing.

We all have to start somewhere.
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Isekai + NTR best combination.
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>Padded chest
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>>160171754
Wait are you kidding me? That's the part you have a problem with. That's just what the MC is thinking about. It's like saying food is great. I don't see a problem.
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Truly a shameless slut.
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>>160171842
Brotherman being redundant ain't good
you gave x all its good points? no need to finish the line with x is great, the reader will understand that from the description alone dig?
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>>160171824
God I love her.
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>>160171842
It wasn't the only thing that was wrong but it is something easy to correct. You have to understand saying "food is great" is not good writing. It is the worst way to get the idea across. If you said "The taste of food is better than sex" that would be a much more vivid way to put it.
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>>160171824
tell me we are getting more kazuma and eris thief antics
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>>160171458
It can be fun to watch an isekai when its done right. the problem is that ever since SAO showed up and lowered the writing standards for the sub-genre, its been fucking hard to find one that isnt some amateur teenage written fan fic.
If you want a good one watch Escaflowne. Hopefully the shield hero adaptation works out though.
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God please isekai me already, i go out on long walks every day and so far not a single truck has killed me and i haven't seen any portal opening, come on i don't even complain about this world im doing really well here but i want to see how far i can go in a fantasy world please
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>>160172072
>die of dysentery after half a week
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>>160172072
Do you expect to get special bonuses when isekaid? What kind of world do you think you would get isekaid to?
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>>160172047
Shield hero is so good in the beginning, I hope they don't rush it.
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>>160172115
i don't even need special bonuses i just wanna live in a dragon quest like world, i can get used to it and train to become stronger, i just really really want to explore and form a party of friends i meet there
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>>160172115
i want to be a G O D
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>>160172324
I always thought rpg worlds were kinda stupid in that everyone would basically be max level. It's too easy to work your way up if you are careful and always pick on the weak. (animals.)

>>160172341
I hate overpoweredness in isekai. I want a MC who has average abilities but uses his intelligence to get the most of them. And I hate all this "save the world" crap. Can't the Mc just focus on building a family or buying a collector's item or something?
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>>160172115
I want to be a cereal rapist.
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>>160172115
I think something like becoming fluent in at least one of the languages in that world is entitled, not really a bonus.
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>>160172341
no you don't want that, it would only make everything boring, also if you try anything evil i will become the hero that will stop you
>>160172449
well i just like the way people look and act having levels and exp would make things easier i want to really learn how to be a strong hero maybe something more like zero no tsukaima
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>>160172115
Okay there mister space warper, summon me to a game world made by bathesda
the rest i'll do it myself
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>>160171779
name three(3) isekai that did this
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>>160172696
>Get summoned to Bethesda games
>Have access to console commands
>Have to restart the world every 3 minutes cause it keeps crashing.
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>>160172729
>>>/wsr/
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>>160137600

AAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>160137365
Wew, I remember this and actually enjoyed all 5 of them. Up to this day still read the Isuca manga. Out of those the worst one for me was World Break followed closely by Shinmai.
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>>160171779
I dunno about isekai, but I actually would like to see an adventure-genre anime where a single male protagonist teams up with women who aren't interested in him.
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>>160172806
>He plays with mods

You aren't getting the genuine Bethesda experience!
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>>160122079

This list doesn't help much when you've seen all of the ones included.
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>>160173163
genuine would be playing on a ctr tv on a fat ps3
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>>160172115
The best Isekai world is a highly magical one where everyone is a mage, but magic is deep, detailed, yet retains its mystique. If magic is too gamey it loses that.

What are some manga/ln that does magic well?
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>>160173060
>MC meets needs to form a party at the adventure guild
>he asks around
>some call him a fag
>others say they're already in a party
>finally he meets a few qts who don't mind his smell
>secretly half of them hate him, but he's bretty gud at fighting
>throughout the story the MC was able to capture the heart of one of the girls with effort and persistence
>the others warm up to him, but don't want to fug him
>the MC gets hit buy carriage-kun and wakes up back in his own world
>realizing that his true love is no longer with him and he can't go on amazing adventures anymore, he enters a downward spiral
>thus the second season starts
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>>160137979
I really agree with your post. Not everything is about self inserting you goddamn westerner.
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>>160172729
Oh boy, lets hope I'm not shitting the thread or angering anyone here again today.

http://novel18.syosetu.com/n2838cn/
RPG風の異世界に召喚されたら、【NTR好き】スキルがついてきた
Context :
>MC got isekai'd by goddess of darkness
>He got blessed with cheat skill "Musketeer", but also cursed with "Likes NTR"
>If MC have sex with girl on day other than Day of Darkness, the girl will get cursed by the goddess
>But mc doesn't know that at first and so he got 1 girl cursed
>The girl is half human / half dragon, so she have sexual need as strong as dragon, and sexual desire as strong as human
>And she now is cursed by curse of "Immorality"
>They're travelling to land of darkness to undo the curse, and so on the day other than day of darkness, stuff happen.
Pro : + More H scene than stories, really good if you're looking to fap. + The author is really dedicated, the amount of words per chapters is a lot for a free novel.
Con : - It's more of NTR play here, so there's none of thoes schadenfraude feeling, but this might be a pro to other people instead.
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>>160115546
>not the soda machine one
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>>160172729
>>160173797

何度やってもやり直し!
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n4374bu/
Context :
>MC was sickly shota that spent near all his life in hospital
>Thanks to this he is somewhat clueless about lot of things in the world ( People's malice, sexual stuff etc )
>He dies young and reincarnated, also he didn't know this but if he dies, he will reset the time ( Imagine subaru re:zero, but MC memory reset too )
>While living his new life, MC will encounter lot of bad end, in the first arc it's because of the village bully. In second arc, it's the mercenary that comes to kill wolf in the village, etc.
Pro : + Shota and loli mc. + Thanks to the reset theme, after each arc the heroine will be in fresh state.
Con : - While the setting is fantasy, but the H scene premise doesn't involve fantasy that much, so there's nothing really original here.
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>>160172729
>>160173832

聖機神セイントドール
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n8641dj/
Context :
>MC and childhood friend heroine transported to different world
>This is common in this fantasy world, and isekai'd people often have cheat skill on them and people know it.
>The world have dangerous beast roaming here and there, and the isekai'd people are considered a good fighting force, so they can get good
treatment if they follow the world rules.
>The catch : male isekai will get fighting ability, and female isekai will become "miko" for ancient mechanical golem ( hence the title Saint-doll )
>The doll are powered by magic, and easiest source of magic is semen
>They both are planning to return to their original world, and to do so they're going to need help from the local people
>But of course MC won't allow his childhood friend to act as a "miko". Instead he will handle the fighting himself
>Will he be able to fight protecting everyone without letting his childhood friend sullied herself as miko ? read further to know ! ( spoiler : he won't )
Pro : + IMO this has one of the best H scene, the theme is used really well, and thanks to the world common sense a bit different, the scene is
more hardcore than vanilla, all in all it's very good to fap.
Con : - The prologue and world building is long, so it's best to prepare one or two day reading it first before finally getting to the H scene parts ( It's worth it though ).

Sample translation here
https://pastebin.com/cyKT5ueM
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>>160173797
>>160173832
>>160173861
>untranslated

t-thanks
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>>160173868
I'm translating one as we speak, I'm not good enough but I hope people can enjoy it.
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>>160173976
you got a site or anything i can follow you with?
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>>160150985
Does anyone have the sauce on this? I need it for... scientific reasons. Reverse image search didn't work.

Kanna-butt in return.
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>>160174020
None since I don't even have anything yet to show, so don't get your hopes up.
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>>160174066
Lolicon shinaba ii
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>>160137979
I agree. I'm sick of cynical cunts. Like, can someone tell me what kind of MC wouldn't have a vicarious aspect if you twist it enough?
>loser is self insert because it's easier for neck beard losers to relate
>capable is self insert because it's wish fulfilment power fantasy for neck beard losers
where do you draw the fucking line?
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>>160174231
The self insert thing has nothing to do with the MC's personality. It's more related to how easily he overcomes his obstacles. An MC who instantly becomes OP, educates the medieval savages with his superior onsen/katana/soy sauce, and has 10 girls instantly crave his dick is obvious wish fulfillment regardless of the MC's personality.
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>>160171751
What do you mean?
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>>160174951
in its infancy, the LN used to mock tired harem troupes, when it got enough popularity, editor san stepped in and forced author to change to the generic romcom we are all used to it, but the author wasn't having none of that shit and ended the series outta nowhere with the reversetrap end, then started another LN in another company.

Same happened to yahari, and now konosuba
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>>160175041
Haganai goes yukimura end ? I thought it was omnibus end.
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>>160175066
did you miss the threads?
shit was wild man
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>>160155459
> Tolkien

Explain....
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>>160176174
>Pretty much everything in Tolkien comes from European folklore
Yeah that guy is full of shit
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>>160115379
only /v/ says only /v/ hates on isekai
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>>160176392
Thanks for the (You) anon, I already knew that. Though I suppose we could give that anon SOME credit. I mean the Haradrim were a thing too, I suppose. I haven't even read the Silmarilion but maybe that has Eastern influences I don't know about.
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>>160160695
How is planetary romance not isekai?
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>>160176707
Because they're just on another planet in the same solar system.
Plus in one of them the synopsis says they contact earth a lot.
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>>160176745
But they travel there via magic.
It's a different world in every sense of the word.
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>>160176812
http://jisho.org/word/%E7%95%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C
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>>160122954
This one is so good
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>>160130154
k
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>>160176812
>It's a different world in every sense of the word.
That's what they say about SAO too
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>>160176862
What are you trying to say?
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>>160177117
>parallel universe
>different-dimension world
are not
>mars and venus
or
>getting electrocuted if you take off your hat
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>>160177117
Can you not read hiragana, anon? I linked you to the definition of isekai.
Traveling to another planet in the universe is not going to a parallel world or a different dimension. Thus it's not isekai.
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>>160172176
The manga artist really needs to work on the manface.
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>>160117197
Sauce?
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>>160177312
It's a questionable translation of 異世界. Other dimension would be 異次元 or 別次元.
It's completely irrelevant that they are neighboring planets. It's not a SF story where you travel from Earth to other planets by means of space ships.
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>>160177405
>It's not a SF story where you travel from Earth to other planets by means of space ships.
The method of transportation doesn't matter. Earth and Mars aren't other worlds. Magic isn't even a requirement for isekai it's just common.
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>>160177476
How are they not other worlds?
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>>160121173
>>160121173
Excellent point. I personally enjoy just about every genre, save for (obviously) shoujo & yaoi, also most of the whole of sports. It doesn't need to be god level or fit a niche perfectly, otherwise why fucking watch anime in the first place? Unless they're absolute garbage, but that's not as common as you'd think.
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>>160177499
This has to be bait
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>>160177529
I'm sorry but to me Barssoom appears as quite a different world.
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>>160177476
>Earth and Mars aren't other worlds
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>>160177610
Listen here you little baitshit.

What we mean is world in the definition of different dimensions not god damned planets. Does that make you happy?
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>>160177603
So if we had a series about an ancient chinese guy that goes through a portal and ends up in the maya civilization is that isekai?
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>>160173861
>http://novel18.syosetu.com/n8641dj/
That's hardcore NTR.
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>>160177773
Yeah, there's lot of hidden gem in the adult section of syosetu. it's a shame most of the title discussed in /a/ is from the non 18+ section.
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>>160177757
Might be stretching it but It was called the New World for a reason.
Just keep it distinct from time travel.
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>>160177743
You're too stuck up on modern ideas of planets and dimensions.
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>>160177939
No it's just what isekai is.
If the protagonist could get back to their starting point with technology we currently have it's not isekai.
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>>160177986
How is John Carter supposed to have reached Mars in the late 19th century?
Interplanetary exploration didn't start until the 1960s and manned journeys shouldn't have been possible before the mid 70s while requiring enormous amount of resources.
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Space travel has been around for ages.
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>>160178146
Reading comprehension
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>>160177847
Can you recommend any good loli stuff?
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>>160178856
ロリータ恥辱のオークション
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n2531cj/
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>>160179002
something less rape focused please
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>Do You Think You Can Run After Reincarnating, Nii-san?

>Five years since I graduated from high school, and within those years, at the same time I was confined by my younger sister, but it all ended when I ran away and died being hit by a truck. At last I’m free from my devil-like sister! Well, that’s what I thought but my sister was reincarnated with me at the same time in the same world. But this time, I’ll escape from my sister’s clutches and live my life in a different world freely. With the strongest weapon and class I received from god.
>Geez onii-san, cheating on me is unforgivable you know~
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>>160179134
I'm okay with this.
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>>160179091
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n7706f/
http://novel18.syosetu.com/n2308cx/
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>>160179134
This reminds me of that doujin where the imouto NTR'd her oniichan from his girlfriend.
She sing a happy birthday while having sex with him.
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This show is hilarious.
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>>160173258
The Faraway Paladin
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I really liked the trap one and I hate mecha and traps, weird
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>>160172115
Being good at local language would be enough.
if I get isekai'ed to world of Elona, then I get respawns for free.
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After Youjo Senki, will isekai with FeMC become a thing?
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>>160182426
It has been a thing for over a decade.
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>>160114504
TV anime is divided into seasons that cover the entire year. You can't air a TV anime that isn't part of a season. This show is just as seasonal as anything else.

Isekai is a meme genre in the West because everyone hates it but nobody watches it. So you get people claiming they're all the same and they're all shit and there's 10-20 of them every season and everyone just nods along because they don't know any better.

Then again, people don't watch anime in general so everything is pretty much just a meme.
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>>160182464
Genmu Senki Leda was 1985. And there was an Alice anime in 1983.
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>>160182426
Alice in Wonderland was written in 1865.
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>>160182464
>>160182995
Come on, i'm saying more isekai with FeMC WN/LN adaptions.
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>>160183055
There are literally over 100 chinese isekai with a female MC. It's an extremely popular chinese setting to have an OP female character from modern times isekai'd into a chinese fantasy setting where they end up in the body of a girl who just died and is in really shitty circumstances.
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>>160179134
MOAR
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>>160114504
>>160114712
Because they are a hundred times batter than stale, boring and shitty HIGH fucking SCHOOL battle harems. Isekai is much better escapism than the high school setting that retarded moon authors seem to have a hard-on for.
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>>160182659
>but nobody watches it
People watched No Game No Life, watched Log Horizon, Re:Zero, Konosuba, and I'm pretty sure people are going to watch more isekai shit because the setting lends itself for more interesting shit to happen than the shitty highschool setting.
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>>160182426
>FeMC
The MC was a middle-aged Japanese salaryman.
Not a little girl.

I really wonder how many Japanese have been driven into suicide by isekai.
"Maybe the 'other side' is better than this world."
The thing those people don't realize is that, for example, heaven and hell only exist in the heads of the people still living after their death. It's not something they will consciously experience.
Sure, Islamic terrorists will get their (was it 70?) virgins, but they will never experience them. It's only in the heads of the people in their organisation that haven't killed themselves.
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>>160115054
Considering that he can perform any magic and even has a literal blessing from God, it would be cool if he were to become the messiah of that world.
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>>160183373
Hey man you never know until you die
I'm not going to be disappointed if there's no afterlife.
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>>160128403
It didn't need to sell. It just needed to be popular. And from the viewcount alone it was indeed very popular.

It was what made people sit up and notice isekai just because they were isekai. Before that hardly anyone knew about Re:Zero and Shieldbro didn't have the isekai crowd behind it either.
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>>160183520
Yeah MT was the first JP isekai to become popular. SAO mainly added video game mechanics and then one people associated video game mechanics with isekai a lot of the SAO fanbase was also attracted to isekai.
Chinks have been doing isekai WNs since a few years before MT though.
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>>160183706
Before MT popular isekai were popular not because they were isekai, but because of other factors. And I think MT wouldn't have become popular if not for SAO bringing all those video game mechanics to the mainstream first.

>Chinks have been doing isekai WNs since a few years before MT though.
I'm aware of that, but prior to MT they weren't popular just because they were isekai, were they?
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>>160183490
>Hey man you never know until you die
>being a dualist
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>>160183706
>Yeah MT was the first JP isekai to become popular.
Dunbine, Leda, Wataru, Escaflowne, Digimon would like a word with you.
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>>160183706
Do chink WNs make every generic fantasy land European?
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>>160183706
>Yeah MT was the first JP isekai to become popular
pretty sure Those Who Hunt Elves was popular before it
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>>160183853
>>160183896
I'm going to bet he meant it was the first JP isekai to become popular just because it was isekai. Those isekai you listed were popular for other reasons.
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>>160183853
>>160183896
We're talking about this in the context of the isekai WN boom you dumb niggers. No one wrote an isekai WN because of Digimon.

>>160183871
Most of them are an ancient chinese fantasy setting. There's also medieval and >>160180000 which takes place in an alternate reality japan.
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>>160184057
>in an instant
every fucking time
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>>160184098
With a wry, self-depreciating smile while shrugging his shoulders. It can't be helped.
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>>160179659
>that ending with the girlfriend taking care of the inbred baby while imouto is busy sucking onii-chan's cock
Truly a masterpiece.
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>>160115671

Oh shit this actually got a manga?
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It can only be a matter of time before this gets adapted

>the publishers ran an event where if you took your actual mother to buy this you got a freebie
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>>160184297
They chickened out, next event you only need to bring a photo of your mother.
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>>160184057

Reading this sort of thing is what discourages me from writing a novel.

I just know I'd do shit like repeating grammar like that. Plus my dyspraxia means I often type garbled sentences without realising it because my hands can't keep up
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>>160183871
No. They actually like their Ancient Chinese setting and don't rely on Western setting like Nips.
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>>160184366
The key is use different words but with the same context. I, too also, hate writing repetitive sentences and shit because it triggers my autism.
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>>160184297
Mom isekai is great
>One day, I fell into the river and drowned.

>The God of River looked at me, and said: “You’re very brave, young one, so let me give you a mother as a reward. Would you like a golden-haired big-breasted elf mother with an extreme yandere personality, or a black-haired big-breasted sadistic human mother with a tsundere personality?”

>Me: “I choose… your mom, dammit! What I really want is to quickly reincarnate!!”

>The God of River smiled at me: “You are a honest lad indeed, so let me gift you both mothers. From now on, you will have two mothers!”

>Me: “Did you even listen to what I said?!”
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>>160184318

First event they want the headlines. Second event they want actual queues.

I can never tell if Japanese marketers are geniuses or if they continually come up with terrible ideas and we just hear about the funny ones.
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>>160184414

Is that an actually from something because that sounds pretty neat?
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>>160184005
>We're talking about this in the context of the isekai WN boom you dumb niggers. No one wrote an isekai WN because of Digimon.
So they wrote mobile phone novels.
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>>160184473
It's called "Oh no! After I Reincarnated, My Moms Became Son-cons!"
I haven't actually read it yet but it has a pretty good rating
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>>160184514

>it's actually real

Wonder if oka-sans and onee-sans are becoming more and more popular because the moe generation are now adults.
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>>160184514

>Chinese author and MC

Oh well, it was nice thinking this would get adapted, even if it was only for a minute.
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>>160184057
Sauce plz
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>>160184711
>The chink authors are the onese who make the stuff that appeals to me.
Dammit.
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>>160184766
Hey at least the chinks are starting to animate some stuff.
Most of my favorite series are gook series and they animate nothing.
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>>160184842

Chinese animated stuff is weird, it has Japanese style character designs but the animation moves closer to Western animation. Has a weird uncanny valley aspect to it.
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>>160167720
Hero's War is great. I love it.
Dropped Release that Witch because nothing challenging to the MC ever happens and it got boring.
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>>160116164
>>160159463
>>160159742
>>160161896

Joel Rosenberg's Guardians of the Flame and
Keeper of the Hidden Ways (1980s-2000s, 1990s)

DragonSword (1988)

Gene Wolf's Wizard Knight. 2004.

Magic Kingdom of Landover (last book 2009)

Outlander (iffy, historical, but similar principles)
Witch World

Deverry series by Katherine Kerr COULD count, in the historical sense, as might Butcher's Alera books.

I could probably pull some more out of my memory with a little work.
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>>160155130

It's Gene Wolfe. Like 90% of people can't get past the first chapter.
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>>160186155
I just had an epiphany that there are isekai WNs written by western authors so I guess those count.
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