And not in a "fun to hate" or ironic "muh waifu is better" way.
why would I even have a pic saved of a girl I don't like
>>160034719
>go on google
>picture of girl
>post it
>delete picture
why oh why did they make this random bitch relevant to the plot at all
>>160034668
Sorry you have such shit taste, anon.
>>160034668
I agree completely. I skipped her episodes.
>>160035272
This too.
>>160034668
Goddamnit OP you're so right. This cancer incarnate ruined every episode she was in.
>>160035567
Defend this abomination you scumbag.
>>160035601
>>160035723
t. secondaries
this bitch spends four years of romcom tropes and tries to cuck her way in after finally losing
>>160035871
I asked for arguments, not shitty nonsense. How can someone like
>annoying voice
>shitty nosy behavior, eavesdropper
>embarassing nyan nyan bullshit act
>rich as fuck for no reason
>somehow the reason for akiba being what it is (gigantic asspull breaking any semblance of serious story telling)
>shitty cafe maid aka fucking fat neckbeard bait
>spoiled shit
>irrelevant card game shit we don't care about
>worst arc with stupid shit story about her dad
>not a single thing makes any sense in it whatsoever
>>160035871
Faris was even MORE obnoxious in the VN. She's the worst chuuni in fiction. I used fast forward through half the Nyan Cafe dialogue just so I wouldn't have to read her nonsense.
>>160034895
I'll fight you.
Was this bitch supposed to be a funny and likeable character? Because she's really not.
>>160034668
This boner factory slut
>>160036039
If you want to start nitpicking almost nothing about Steins;Gate's setup makes any sense
>>160037563
Literally only Satania is likeable and she still can't save that trash show.
>>160034668
Also every single character of the Oreimo and EMS casts
>>160037820
I'm not saying Steins Gate made sense. But that Faris character was the most infuriating piece of concentrated cancer I've seen.
What the fuck made the creators design this shit and be satisfied ? I know she wasn't the only bad character, but goddamn even Tuturu-retard didn't actually made me sad I couldn't find her IRL to deck her in the teeth.
>>160034668
All of those in Evangalion, XXX Holic and Monogatari
Objective best answer
>>160037563
Delete this.
Benio from Engaged to the Unidentified. I've watched anime for years but I legit think she's the worst character in an anime I've ever endured. I actually skimmed back through the anime once i finished and there was not ONE scene where she did even ONE thing that wasn't "WOW I REALLY LIKE CUTE LITTLE GIRLS I'M SUCH A SISCON WOW".
After I finished I had a long and deep think-tank session wondering what the author was fucking thinking when he/she made that character. Did they think she was funny? No way. Purposefully annoying? Why is she 60% of the entire material then?
It baffles me. It enrages me. Like I'm actually upset at the time I wasted going to google and saving this stupid picture. Fucking deleted.
>>160037563
Watch what you say before you become her play toy
>>160037966
>Tfw anon has shit taste
>>160038206
You can just paste the URL of the image into the filename box you know
>>160038206
>the show is trash anyways
But i unironically finished it
>>160037959
I also dislike her but and I agreed that she is obnoxious but so is Okarin with his mad scientist crap. Besides the fact that you get so ridiculously mad over her both amusing and disturbing.
Really hated this bitch
>>160040388
Okarin is a faggot who pretends to be a mad scientist to avoid being honest with his feelings and putting some magic in his boring life. This is understandable, I've met some real-life people having this kind of behavior.
Faris-cancer on the opposite, has no fucking reason for acting like a neckbeard's wet dream, except to please neckbeards playing the goddamn VN.
>>160037959
Steins;Gate does make sense but none of the setups for any of the characters are realistic
>Okabe gets research money to do absolutely nothing
>Daru spends his entire life alongside him
>Mayuri seemingly had no guardian and just wings it at the age of 16
>Moeka is a literal shell of a person and was implied to be homeless but still looks banging
All of Steins;Gates characters' backstories aren't meant to be taken seriously, they're just the bare minimum to spur the characters into their situation in the plot
>>160040698
But all of these points are not true.
>>160034668
>He didn't play the VN
wow, some shit taste there.
>>160040574
You've come across people living dedicated pretend eccentric personas in their private and public lives?
>>160036225
Megumin is even more of an obnoxious chuuni loli, and she's beloved. Me however, I'm one of Akiha Rumiho's fewest fans on /a/.
expected this shit to be the first reply
bad anime though
Dumb eyelashes, dumb whore, ruined every scene she was im
>>160040863
>fewest fans on /a/
One retarded faggot spouting his shit opinions doesn't make his viewpoint in the majority.
>>160041035
Nice bait mate
I like crazy chicks sometimes but this is NOT one of them
>>160041112
you're going to have to explain why i'm baiting
i did not like that anime and that bitch only made it worse
>>160041148
how* my b
>>160041035
But I did hate this red-headed little bitch.
We get it, you wanna bone the dragon loli, no need to show it by orgasmically screaming every time she's around
>>160041144
she's tolerable in AE, though
>>160041193
Typical yuri shit
>>160037661
How can you hate someone who is so smart, pure, honest, and loyal? She's almost perfect.
Diabetic autist.
>>160041218
Haven't played yet, I hope you're not lying
>>160041089
I dropped the show the moment she showed up, just could not stand her
>>160040573
I agree, Anon.
She was a fucking cunt. Not even funny.
This bitch right here ruined the whole show
>>160041310
Please, her doujins are literally the only good thing that caBBVme out of that ass series.
>>160038520
You must be into NTR, aren't you?
>>160038206
>>160038640
>>160041089
>>160041310
Only legit answers so far
at least lambdadelta was likable in some way
Post girls you really, really, really love!
>>160034668
This puffball ruined the show by starting the infodump madness.
>>160041538
You're telling me you like this bitch>>160041144
>>160040574
Anon you literally have no idea of what are you talking aboit.
>>160041634
not him, but it isnt black and white. you dont either hate a character or love them
Bitch, get that smug, carefree look off your face and die already!
Her theme is cool though.
>>160034668
My seething hatred for Asuka is so intense that it actually made one of the best fight scenes in anime, her fight against the Dummy Plug Units in End of Evangelion, even better.
The set up was superb. There she was, fighting tooth and nail for her right to exist, having just achieved complete self actualization, and the scene supported by absolutely gorgeous animation and music. She's about to fulfill her God given role as savior of the planet and save everyone from annihilation. All she has to do is kill one more unit before the internal battery in her Eva runs out.
And the bitch fails at the last second.
Her complete existential devastation, having risen so high only to fall so insanely low, was amazing. She impotently thrashes at the controls hoping to coax out one more punch from her Eva but to no avail. Then all of the dummy units she had killed before completely reform and proceed to unceremoniously tear her limb from limb. And she can feel everything that happens, every tooth ripping her flesh and every organ being ripped from her chest, until the last moments of her life.
Seeing all of that happen to Asuka, who I consider to be the worst girl in anime, was so enjoyable I was aroused. That's how much I hate that psychotic, ginger cunt. I hope she meets the same level of destruction in Rebuild so I can enjoy it all over again.
>>160041707
Toko has no redeeming qualities though, she's not even good looking, I could understand liking her serial killer side but normal Toko is terrible
>>160041675
>arguments needed
>>160040852
yes
>>160040574
As someone that says things like
>it actually made me sad I couldn't find her IRL to deck her in the teeth
You have no right to look down on neckbears
>>160034895
She's such a pain.
This moment was so satisfactory.
>>160038206
I hate her too. Pisses me off how she is hostile towards dog guy when he wants to get closer to kobeni.
>>160041985
I liked that doujin where she gets beaten up by yakuza.
>>160041907
Where's the relation ??? You're a fucking neckbeard that's it. Try at least to argue properly instead of bullshitting.
>>160034668
Typical anime only fag who only saw surface deep on everything.
Faris/Rumiho was actually the most well rounded and loving character in the whole cast. She showed in multiple instances that she's remarkably intelligent, perceptive and caring. She's also charismatic and lighthearted enough to do the Faris Nyannyan bit and play along with Okabe's genuine chuuni autism. Go read the original VN, as well as some of the spinoffs and supplementary material. You'll have a different view of her.Also, reminder that she was very close to Okabe before the events of S;G, and if none of that shit with Kurisu happened and he kept being a bumbling mad scientist, odds are they would end up together. There were major obstacles for any other girl/option.
>>160042452
Yeah, but can you defend her 0 outfit?
>>160042476
Nothing about the art for 0 was good. She didn't even get the worst of it, since her costume was always played for laughs to begin with.
>>160040698
Okabe literally goes inside Moeka's apartment; she's not homeless. Mayuri is explicitly stated to live with her parents. Okabe doesn't get research money. Daru is just a bro.
Stop posting
>>160042452
explain her whole retarded story of being the sole person behind Akihabara being a geek area.
Explain her coming up with goddamn maid cafés.
Explain her having shitastic story about her dad dying in a retarded plot.
Explain her inventing moe and being proud of it.
Explain her being such an obnoxious and pushy cunt.
>>160041623
This. I don't hate her but she represents everything I hate about the tone/structure of the show. Seeing her makes me feel bored
>>160034668
She was much better in the VN, but yeah, she was pretty terrible in the anime.
>>160041695
I bet you're a German cuckboy still pissed about the war.
>>160034668
Her voice is so annoying, it's unreal
>>160042627
Did you not read her fucking backstory? That covers 4 of your 5 questions. She was a sheltered rich girl who was constantly tended to by a butler. She wanted to meet people and thought a maid cafe would be fun, but her father shot her down when she was younger. Everything else is pretty fucking apparent, when she opened that maid cafe with her family's fortune it attracted more businesses and people like that to the area. Kind of like how opening a liquor or gun store in America can turn the surrounding area into a shit hole.
The 5th one is just plain wrong, she's not pushy or obnoxious at all.
>>160042452
Her chuuni bit is also her way of dealing with the grief and regret of wishing her father dead. She's a good girl.
>>160042852
>gun store in America can turn the surrounding area into a shit hole
>t.someone who has never lived in a blue state
>>160042889
>>160042852
My bad for arguing with weebs and neckbeards. Of course to you a teen girl inventing maid cafés and using her inheritence to open one is normal thing. Of course acting like a basketcase talking about herself in 3rd person and mimicking a cat is a perfect way to deal with her father's death.
Of course her father dying/being saved in some retarded pretend kidnapping makes sense.
This shit character was designed by neckbeards for neckbeards, so of course I overestimated your critical sense.
>>160040698
>Okabe gets research money to do absolutely nothing
When did that happen? He just blows his money on silly gadgets that he builds in his spare time
>Daru spends his entire life alongside him
They're classmates and buds who hang out in their shared apartment during summer brake
>Mayuri seemingly had no guardian and just wings it at the age of 16
Mayuri lives with her parents, but spends a lot of time out because, again, it's summer vacation
>Moeka is a literal shell of a person and was implied to be homeless but still looks banging
Did they imply she was homeless before or after the scenes of her in her apartment?
>>160043025
>inventing maid cafés
Wrong
>acting like a basketcase talking about herself in 3rd person and mimicking a cat is a perfect way to deal with her father's death
Because it is not normal for you means it is impossible or stupid?
Sounding really mature there. Not even gonna read the other 2 """"points"""""
>>160043025
Anon, you don't even know what you're talking about, get your head out of your ass with that "critical sense" shit.
You might as well post on /lit/ about how some story is trash after watching the movie adaption once.
>>160043108
>Not even gonna read the other 2 """"points"""""
Oh wow neckbeard you sure showed me. Cite me a single example of someone acting in perfect neckbeard-bait behavior, using submissive and flirty traits, to cope with the loss of a parent.
Her whole character is there to please the likely audience, get over it.
>>160043165
>Cite me a single example of someone acting in perfect neckbeard-bait behavior, using submissive and flirty traits, to cope with the loss of a parent.
see
>>160034668
>>160043126
put out real arguments or eat a dick goddamnit. I never argued about the VN since I didn't play it. I'm talking about the anime.
So try to answer my points.
>>160043193
>litterally using a circular argument
Are you fucking kidding me ? I was obviously talking about real fucking cases you chuuni scum. Do you really expect me to take a fictionnal fanservice character thought up by smelly Japanese geeks for a valid example ?
>>160043202
Your points are irrelevant because you basically skimmed a book and tried to argue with other people about shit you don't understand. You aren't just an anime only fag, you're a slow one who didn't pay attention worth shit.
>>160043257
>if I dismiss his points as irrelevant, I'll be able to get out of this without having to think up a single argument
Okay whatever helps you not break down
>>160043255
>discussion about anime on an anime board
>asking for 3DPD examples
s;g-fags please go and stay go
>>160035272
oh yes
she is that cunt that yells at all men for being alive, only thin, really that's where the imagination lies.
>>160043291
>discussing the coherence of character psychology
>somehow japanese men fantasies will count as valid examples
What the fuck are you thinking while typing those answers ?
>>160040786
tootaruuu
>>160043337
don't you see the inherent invalidity of you trying to break down a fictional work - namely steins;gate - to
>discussing the coherence of character psychology
but not accepting arguments based on those characters?
>>160040786
This pic reminded me of Okabe grabbing the trap's dick and commenting to himself that hers is bigger than his.
Kek, it was a stereotypical but funny scene.
>>160041985
>>160042050
She won in the end.
Unpopular opinion but I actively hate this bitch and she was the reason I dropped the series.
>>160043415
Are you a fucking retard ? The quality of character writing is its believablity and fleshing out. Just like an artist's talent is judged by his grasp of the real world's visual mechanisms such as perspectives, textures, light reflections...
By going with your shitty logic writers like Victor Hugo are nothing compared to fucking Tex Avery ?
Faris isn't a well written character, she's just the fantasy of a bunch of japanese weirdos.
>>160043547
You are inherently implying that good character design is required to be based on the real world and the characters need to share a substantial amount of personality traits in order to be considered a well written character, thus making fantasies invalid.
What is and what is not good character design is absolutely subjective and not objective, so whereas your point of view is valid others are too and you are in no way correct to say yours is superior.
If you are not a person able to enjoy characters in a fantasy setting it's your problem, not the problem of other people.
I'm not the anon defending her btw - your incredibly stupid argumentation just infuriates me.
>>160043662
>I'm not the anon defending her btw - your incredibly stupid argumentation just infuriates me.
Go fuck yourself with a cactus. Even in a fantasy setting, character needs to be somewhat believable and coherent.
Quality writing isn't fucking subjective. For example I don't like Evangelion's Asuka one bit. But even hating her, I have to admit her conduct is at least coherent and believable.
What I'm arguing is you can't just paste your wet dreams (or your audience's) on paper and defend it as good writing because you gobble that shit up.
>>160034668
She wasn't much of a good girl to begin with, but her fanbase only made things worse (satania.moe anyone?)
>>160043773
Neither did I imply that you every character you like is good writing, nor that you cannot like a good written character. Those are separate subjects. And i stand by my case - writing is subjective. What is good writing to one person - let's say a teenage girl writing fan-fictions - might not be good writing to others . eg. you.
obsessive boring mary sue stick in the mud who's also a beta fucking cuck.jpg
Her fans are somehow even more cancerous than she is. Fuck this stupid cunt and everything she stands for. I look forward to seeing Zeke or someone else rip her to shreds and all of her ugly, ugly tears when Eren finally makes out with Armin or some shit. She is so unbelievably cringy.
>>160043877
>writing quality is subjective
No it's not. Otherwise there wouldn't be a fuckin divide between derided best-selling authors like Dan Brown who's considered book-equivalent of Michael Bay, and revered classics like Victor Hugo.
Regarding the characters, there are objective metrics by which each work can be judged like coherence to the rules and traits established, believability of behavior, motives, and so on.
There's a reason shitty schoolgirl fanfiction isn't taught in universities. I'm starting to suspect your "everyone is equal" is just satire to get laughs out of me.
>>160034668
The only thing I dislike about Faris is her totally random ability to read minds. Glad the anime didn't include it.
Oh, and her voice. And also the fact that all of her shit focuses on that stupid card/board game.
>>160043991
What is good writing really? Good writing is the consensus of the majority of what they deem good writing - each with their personal preferences. It's basically a parallel to social norms and morality as they are just a consensus as well. Authers writing in this particular style are well-selling because they fit the consensus, thus they appeal to the majority. The same applies to characters and virtually everything that is based on subjective interpretation.
And no I'm being serious, sadly I have no more time to discuss this any further with you as I have to leave for my university exam.
>>160044125
>Good writing is the consensus of the majority of what they deem good writing - each with their personal preferences. It's basically a parallel to social norms and morality as they are just a consensus as well. Authers writing in this particular style are well-selling because they fit the consensus, thus they appeal to the majority. The same applies to characters and virtually everything that is based on subjective interpretation.
You could have saved time by not typing out shit I have already responded to.
According to your retard logic why best-sellers like Dan Brown are derided while people who didn't even sell much like Alfred de Musset are still revered today ?
this stupid fucking tsundere bitch showed absolutely no interest in the mc and treated him like garbage for the entire manga and then right at the end some stupid deus ex machina bullshit happens and the mc decides he doesn't love the girl he's been after forever who is kind and loves him back. no, he loves the tsun bitch who hasn't shown an ounce of dere
>>160041985
this, Kirino is the only character I've ever truly hated.
I don't even like any of her competitors either, so it must be a pure sort of disgust.
>>160044212
>>160044213
It's funny how most of these shitty characters are lolis.
>>160044046
You know that she's just good at reading body language, right?
>>160040698
>shitposters just flat out fucking lying
Wow.
Fatso
>>160041985
>>160044213
Shit taste.
>>160045579
BAD
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>>160043025
>weebs
Where do you think you are?
>>160045579
>>160045601
Eli is a thousand times worse.
>>160034668
Miku & Mio from IM@S CG
Am I the only one?
>>160041985
They keep saying she's better in the novel, so I actually read the novel and I still hate her. Was actually kinda shocked to discover that most of what they say about the novel is pure bullshit
Literally the worst girl in all of anime
>>160034668
>>160044212
I'm reading this right now and you're probably not remembering it well or spent too much time to notice. She shows a great interest towards MC, she's a tsundere in every sense of the word.
>>160046808
Would hate fuck/10
>>160038196
She has nice boobs. Already a great character in my book
>>160043508
>he dropped the series before onizuka is done with her.she goes almost full 180, becomes one of the best characters. except she's still dominant and still keeps the other big titted bitch as a pet
>>160034668
>>160035871
basically this
She is great in the VN
>>160036225
you fucking shits love tururu when she is even worse
>>160043025
invented=/=popularize
but what i could expect i am on /a/
>>160049027
>defending fucking Faris
>acting smug
oh fuck off you goddamn faggot with your shit neckbeard bait. go jerk off in some maid cafe or something
>>160048939
I only like Suzu, Maho, and Kurisu
>>160050383
>he sat here for 6 hours waiting to call it neckbeard bait for the 5th time
>>160050546
Good taste.
>>160044186
>>160050383
Funny how you never admit that you don't have a rebuttel on pretty much all the points that anons have made, but keep moving the goalpost so you don't have to
Your "arguments" are subjective (just like the other anon's arguments) and the subject you're arguing about is subjective
Also, popularity =/= good writing.
>>160034668
Your taste is pretty shit,nyan
>>160051108
>you will never be the bike
>>160051374
>not the clean version
>>160051374
Why live?
>>160050603
I'm shitposting on my pauses sport, keeps me entertained arguing about a series I remember almost nothing except that John Titor girl being chill and Faris and Maoka being pieces of shit.
>>160051212
Fuck you answer to my fucking points. You didn't make any, except "it's all subjective bro!".
What I'm saying is Faris isn't believable in th slightest and purely fanservice. FFS she even litterally presents herself as the defensor of chuunis, moe and everything you guys love in AKIBA.
>>160034668
If you like Kurisu as well I can confirm you just have completely fucking awful taste.
>>160041730
Nui was the only reason to watch that shit show. What the fuck.
>>160051619
Nice bait.
>>160037966
>Monogatari
Agree with this one
I also hate everyone in EVA except Shinji,his two school friends and the penguin
>>160051730
>animeonly faggot who likes Kurisu and hates Faris
>not shit taste
Yeah get fucked, pal. Kurisu is okay but she's the default for anime only fags and other dregs. Liking Kurisu on its own is not a sin, but hating Faris and liking her is a dual layered correlation for shit taste
>>160042452
I can only remember the part where she lies to Okabe to help her win a game, and when he try to help her, and beg her to just accept her help for the sake of Mayuri, she treat him like a creep and ask strangers to take him away.
She was bitchier in the VN tbqh
>>160052171
Stop that, you're mixing two different people.
I hated Faris for being walking fanservice directly aimed at the audience. But I still despised Kurisu for being a generic daddy-issue tsundere despite all the talk about her genius intellect. She was so badly written, like a completely normal tsundere who could magically science shit when plot demanded.
>>160052321
Such shit taste. Faris is top tier. She's one of the few characters that really seems to both catch on to what's happening and have the maturity to get the gravity of it.
This bitch. She's so annoying, boring and cliched, yet she's so disgustingly popular. Let's not talk about how dumb is to stick her face on other characters just to bait her dumb fans.
>>160052361
Both of you have atrocious taste.
>>160052361
>walking fan service
Her character almost has the most depth in the female cast.
(original VN)
Suzu- lots of depth and complex desires v motives
Faris- fair depths and internal/external conflict obscured by superficial story point unless you pay attention/do her route
Kurisu- Not really a deep character so much as her character is important to a lot of stuff. She's a static tsundere who just goes dere. There's not much else to her character that isn't things she DOES or can DO
Moeka- an attempt was made but she's pretty superficial really. They perfected her in gamma
Tuturu- Beautiful in the simplicity. Sure there's twists and turns a couple of lucid moments but her purpose is clear from the start and she works very well in her role.
>>160052500
>Original VN
Okay maybe you're right. I didn't touch it, and my main gripes were with anime.
>>160037661
You hated her? This titty monster bitch ruined Season 2.
>>160052365
>Shamelessly lies to Okabe when he is in desperate times because of her closest friend is dying just to win a game
>Refuse her help in very bratty way
>He beg her it is to save a close friend of both of them
>When Okabe is on the verge of tears, she scream at strangers to tell him to piss off (and probably beat him)
She is the disputable the worst character in the entire cast along with Moeka. People who have play the VN have more reasons to hate her than anime only guys
She's not even a character, just some nonsensical dialogue/fanservice generator
>>160052576
You don't have to post this disgrace anon. Just being reminded of its existence is painful enough and makes me wonder how bitter Anno had to be to come back to its main work and desecrate it.
>>160052500
>There's not much else to her character
Confirmed for inability to read.
>>160052575
>doesn't give up everything for Okabe's retardation
>immediately bad character
Like man, people die. Okabe going full autist and ruining everyone the way he did isn't necessarily the best choice, you know.
His Mayuri retry kill spree scars a lot of the time sensitive people (katsumi) in S;G0 and if/when they make the third game there will be more fallout from his time fuckery.
>>160052321
To me, that part was one of the reasons I like her VN counterpart less than the anime.
>>160052680
Is Aqua the ultimate plebfilter?
>>160052724
>fug ogabe you sacrificed a lot and I like you know
Max development f/a/m. Amadeus had more development.
>>160044451
>Kirino
>Loli
>>160052770
Just don't interact with him.
>>160052762
Shitposting won't make you right anon.
>>160034668
someone called
Literally every girl in Oreimo and Eromanga-sensei. That author writes the least cute and most obnoxious girls I've ever seen. They're all shrill little brats
>>160052825
And saying
>y-you just didn't read it closely enough
won't make you right. Her character is quite static. Most of her development was falling for Okabe. That's it. Her father issues remained unresolved to the character but explored by the observer. We learned more about her across the story but she didn't really change much herself, not along one timeline at least.
>>160052726
>Sunglasses and earphones
How using those in the tournament would have ruin anything? Did you ser what the black man was wearing?
>Delusionals Farisfag
Her main purpose is to be the sexual fantasy of the fat otakubro
>>160052945
Finally someone who sees Faris for what she is.
>>160052523
The anime was not a good adaptation of the VN. People who haven't played/read it think it's a good adaptation but it leaves out a lot of character development and also what made it so enjoyable.
>>160052945
>>160052978
>s-she doesn't listen to me
>otaku bait
Yeah because the staple bait for fat otaku are sensible girls, with their own goals and capacity for decisions. Sure. It's not like they go for brain dead moetards or tsunderes or unemotional kuus over them almost every single fucking time.
Gee, you might almost think that, other than her visual design Faris is the least bait character and that Kurisu and Mayuri are completely by the numbers. T-that couldn't be right though. Could it?
>>160052931
>e-exploration of a character and their problems doesn't count
>the breaking down of psychological walls and overcoming of intimacy issues don't count either
>nor does the slow process of opening up to people who for once don't hold her in disdain or aim to selfishly use her
>>160053069
I disliked how cunty the girls were to Okabe in the anime but in the VN he's much more of an obnoxious loser. Their reactions and distrust in his ramblings are too reserved if anything.
>>160052566
>You hated her? This titty monster bitch ruined Season 2.
Yes I hate her. Misumi is a voluptuous, goddess girl sho saved the whole series
Hypocrite Miserable Faggot
>>160041262
>How can you hate someone who is so
>smart
A corrupted bitch who steal the elections of the study council with condoms
>pure
Being a pure slut don't make her "pure", again condoms
>honest
Are you serious? Ui isn't honest with herself. She always is acting like a slut by izumi. don't come with me with your lies about "they are married" she isn't a slut she only do that things because he is her husband
>and loyal?
WTF she loyal. that isn't a quality
>She's almost perfect.
She is another "waifu" bait
The fucking circlejerk over her has made me hate her.
>>160052430
This so much. Why is she popular to begin with?
>>160052566
thanks by the pic, Faggot
>>160042837
That's not even the worst fucking girl in the series. The worst girl had to exist to ruin the anime at the last fucking minute. And yes, I'm aware she's a secret route in the game and her bad ending makes me hate her even more.
>>160053102
Anon what the fuck? Her character was in big part a bait for otakus. The game itself shows explicitely this.
Also, she could accept Okabe's help just for the peace of mind of her friend. What she did was low and disgusting, and even worse because she did it to a close friend of her
One of the worst meme characters I've ever seen
>>160034668
This bitches, cunts, sluts,
>>160053121
>exploration of a character
Is not development. She didn't develop we just saw more in the past and pieces came together. That's good writing but it's not development.
>breaking down intimacy
Kurisu is less autistic than Maho, she really didn't have too many intimacy issues. She can make friends and get on with colleagues.
>b-but romantically
>muh tsunarc
Sure, guy
>open up to people
She was open as fuck to heaps of other characters who weren't okabe. Again, the only development was her dropping her tsun barrier.
>>160053249
This is one of the characters I can't really understand why people would like.
>>160053251
>>160053212
>if you don't let people ruin your life because you friend might die you're a bad person
No.
The Mayuri death tantrum was autistic the second he realised that it would happen even if moeka wasn't involved by train and stuff.
>make a world better for all of your friends but one
>that one is destined to die
>some times pretty peacefully
>not even sure you can fix but just delay it slightly
>say you mind if I re-kill your dad, or I suppose from your point of view- just straight up kill/erase
>sure ogabe, you're not fucking crazy with grief willing to ruin anything on the slimmest chance to relieve the responsibility you feel for your friends death
>>160053249
Ill fight you nigga.
>>160052741
if you mean only plebs choose her then yes
>>160053296
Not really. She always kept others at a distance and maintained a safe facade to interact with others behind. It's only over the course of the story that she finally bares her soul to anyone. You're just annoyed that she didn't develop the way you wanted her to.
Also, you originally made this about a supposed lack of depth, and yet here you said the exploration of her character was an example of good writing.
>>160048939
>>160035871
>>160035723
Play fucking Phenogram or Darling you fucking plebian niwaka faggot shitters, Faris is best girl in most sections concerning Suzuha and her Past.
She's actually smart, knows how to handle emergencies and has a stupid hot body.
How you can't like her is beyond me, she's the only one just playing along with Okabe, and still there for him when he drops the spiel due to PTSD later on.
>>160053617
>t. Daru the fat fuck otaku
>>160053587
>you're just annoyed that she didn't develop the way you wanted her to
No, I like Kurisu. I just don't think she developed all that much. She played her role well and was a good character but she didn't much develop.
Characters are not measured wholly in development or depth.
>originally about depth
Sure, and I put above most of the cast. I just said she didn't develop much but the rest was good.
For the record on people calling me a Faris fag I am an Alpha Suzuha and Beta Maho fag.
>>160053617
>b-but she dresses up like a maid she's just fan-service
Interacting with secondaries is a mistake, man.
>>160053697
>She played her role well and was a good character
Then why were you insinuating that she was shallow and badly written?
>she didn't develop much
I simply have to disagree. She didn't outright fix her problems, true, but she took some important first steps over the course of the story and matured as a person.
>>160053617
I won't deny that her route in both games were great, but
>telling people to play the worthless spin-off
Why would you do that, anon?
>>160041985
Her and Taiga are about the only tsunderes I can't stand in all LN anime
>>160043959
This. I usually like her type of character but Mikasa is just terrible
>>160053889
>shallow and badly written
I never insinuated either I just said she didn't really develop. I don't know how to make things easier for you to understand. Her character was pretty static. All she had was falling for okabe. She was more development in flash back in 0 or even as Amadeus.
You're putting in your own warrants that she must be well developed to be a good character. Snufkin never develops but is a fun character. There are loads of one note characters that are very well constructed and utilized notes. Not saying she's one not but making the fucking distinction for you.
(Depth/Development/Construction)*writing and use
>how deep is the character; what are their motivations and intricacies
>how developed is the character how do they change and adapt across the story
>how well constructed is your character; is the character enjoyable and refreshing
As long as they're written well you can focus on any single or combination of the above and it will be a successful character.
>tragic villain with a slowly revealed backstory and motive
Deep
>heroes journy protag who naturally and satisfyingly ends the story much differently than when they started
Developed
>Extremely well likeable side character that has little screen time but leaves a lasting impression
Well constructed
Nailing the above is called good writing.
Kurisu is well written in her construction (and use in the narrative as well as her sufficient depth
>>160041561
She's not lambdadelta.
>>160053299
I thought she was funny - in the anime. Manga version gets on my nerves
>>160054118
Regarding them with apparent apathy while praising everyone else in >>160052500 will give that impression. And then you go and claim that somehow Amadeus Kurisu, the literal plot device character, has greater development.
>>160053137
Saved? Them sales numbers are looking pretty weak.
If she's the reason why we get no S3, I'm blaming all Misumifags.
Pity because I was one, but I went back to being an Uifag (and a low-key Niikutafag) because I got tired of Misumi cockblocking so much.
>>160052917
This
The only girl I kinda like in any of his stuff is Saori. I don't know how anyone can say his girls are best or waifu material. You have to have a fetish for pigheaded thoughtless walking tits/fetishes I guess
>>160035723
>episode
>he watched the anime
wow sure is plebbit in here. she's in heavy competition for bestgirl in vn
>>160034668
>>160034895
>>160037563
>>160038121
>>160038196
>>160040755
>>160041089
>>160041310
does /a/ just hate pink hair?
This fucking bitch.
>>160042627
>coming up with maid cafes
are you serious? she didn't invent maid cafes, she was just the one who pushed for them to open up in Akiba. jesus fucking christ, even if you only watched the anime, this stuff is all adequately explained.
sometimes I feel like no one on /a/ even watches the show they're discussing. You probably just marathoned the entire series in one day, didn't you? you probably didn't do it because you enjoyed it, either, you just wanted to increase your anime count on mal. God you're a fucking piece of shit. no one cares how many anime you saw if you didn't even fucking pay attention when you were watching them. (note: even if you were paying attention, still no one cares how many anime you've watched)
seriously, this isn't a high-iq show. you don't need to be in the 140+ tier, you don't even need to be 130+ to watch this show. you literally need a normal 120 iq and some reading-comprehension skills
>>160042452
thank you for not being a retard
>>160055471
Most girls with pink hair are shit, yes
>>160055671
>sometimes I feel like no one on /a/ even watches the show they're discussing
This. You would not believe the amount of idiots who still don't understand worldlines.
>>160056115
>there are people who unironically think the conclusion of steins;gate was the "multiple-worlds" interpretation based soley on Kurisu's desperate attempt to convince herself that she might not die when the worldline changes
Good tier: Kurisu, Maho, Suzu
Okay tier: Mayuri, Luka, Yuki
Shit tier: Faris, Moeka
>>160034668
She may have redeemed herself in the end, but I'll never forgive her for what she did to Zenkichi. She didn't have to be like that.Should've made her his slave when he won.
>>160055471
Worst girls usually have pink hair
>>160056247
I can agree with this.
>>160056176
They must just wander into threads after learning the bare minimum about the series through osmosis and a quick skim of the wiki.
>>160056247
No one deserves to share a tier with Moeka. Don't be mean.
>>160055671
>being this mad over "look at me i'm a neko maid"
>talking about the VN
Also I already told you the only things I remember clearly were characters being shit except John Titor girl. With Faris worst and Moeka being a non-character
>>160056755
>>160056431
Nah they're wrong if they've read S;G but things that have occurred in 0 imply heavily that the reconstruction theory isn't entirely right either.
>>160056755
>non-character
>not traitor
I will never understand you. Fucking anime only. At least you appreciate Suzu. You might be redeemable.
>>160054143
I know the connection is supposed to be with Miyo, but Satoko and Lambdadelta are more alike than Miyo and Lambda
>>160054389
Wakanashitter
Rin don't have the fault by the bad sales
if exits is ui fault. because she is annoying and useless with her appearances
give me the link of the "bad sales"
If we don't get a season 3 is by the studio
not Rin and us
Wakanashitter get out to watch your generic garbage soft hentai
>>160055640
Agree, she is a hypocrite cunt with all the men just because her agency obligates her to seduce a promotor
>>160055974
Except by Hinagiku, Julis, virgo and that oreshura girl
>>160057185
What in 0 implies that?
>>160056256
Hurry up, give the reasons to hate medaka
>Marie Sue
>Cowtits
>Rias blue
>Aki tokisaki
>>160046655
This, I kinda regret the time I wasted reading that shitthe same regret I have after reading shield hero
>>160057689
Wrong pic
>>160038206
I know nothing of that character or the anime she's from, but I quite like the second song on that character song album.
>>160057649
A lot of things but I don't want to get too into a time mechanics debate.
Two easy ways to bring reconstruction into question are as follows.
How does the time synced MMS get sent to non-constucted timelines only to sync up when it fits into 0?
How did zero occur when it's two synchronous time lines (and some cheeky shit after the events of vega original and something yet unseen in with okabe True) culminating together
>well Okabe does one line the affects the other
Except that he doesn't until a certain point which is already divergent from the line in which he sent the info back from.
There's also a tonne more stuff like how mini kurisu existed in the original beta line. How beta cannot exist (at all) without okabe entering into the line from alpha and creating zero as even in the original beta line he got the MMS.
Suzu, bless her, is always an unreliable narrator because the information is always being expanded upon by okabe,
>>160057649
>>160057884
Also the expansion of 'reading stiener' and its two variants shows that reconstruction isn't exactly what's going on either.
Dreaming stieners, unlike reading can show events that a person didn't witness physically as well as though that did not occur within their time period (like okabe's black hole and beginning of the earth RS dreams). The Global Steiner that Amadeus appears to posses is also important. She talks of S;G line unlike any other kurisu that Okabe has interacted with. Her intimacy with it implies she's drawing on lines that Okabe has constructed or de-constructed yet. Potentially S;G itself.
For lore and mechanics 0 added in a lot of interesting kinks in the system. There's a lot of room to speculate. Especially with the reading stiener developed in third parties (not even ones okabe jumped started memories for)
It also implies that Alpha line isn't the original timeline and that someone changed a lot of shit during y2k and it was those changes that induced okabe's own stiener just as he induced Katsumi
>>160054389
They actually cut out a lot of material that would have focused on Rin more in S1 and especially S2. It's clear the anime studio played favorites, and it isn't with Rin.
>>160056247
Gamma Attractor Field Moeka is good though
also Faris is great you fuck.
All Steins girls are best girls. Except Kagari. Fuck Kagari.
>>160057884
>How does the time synced MMS get sent to non-constucted timelines only to sync up when it fits into 0?
It isn't. It's encrypted in an exotic way but you can pick it up from pretty much an Beta line.
>How did zero occur when it's two synchronous time lines culminating together
The two necessary lines are just done one after another. No, that motivational D-Mail doesn't directly cause him to reach the true end, but when he does go down the second line it clicks and alters his actions from that point on. Daru explains that even things that don't seem to have much importance or direct impact can have great influence, that Okabe's cumulative experiences are all valuable and necessary.
>how mini kurisu existed in the original beta line.
That's just what Kurisu was working on in America.
>How beta cannot exist (at all) without okabe entering into the line from alpha and creating zero as even in the original beta line he got the MMS
Worldlines encompass past, present and future. The MMS is an inevitable in Beta, but the ability to watch and understand it isn't except in the correct worldline.
>>160034668
Aqua. What a fucking cunt, I wanted to see her face get stomped in so badly.
>>160048824
How can one man be so wrong
>>160041528
You shut your whore mouth.
>>160057545
Sales numbers
○おくさまが生徒会長! 【全2巻】
上巻 1,014 15.08.21
下巻 1,402 15.09.25
○おくさまが生徒会長!+! 【全2巻】
上巻 1,003 16.12.23
下巻 1,107 17.01.27
As you can see sales trend, downward.
>>160055671
Cool your shit dude god damn.
>iq
lol
>>160058741
>that is just what kurisu was working on
No I mean that shitty OC bitch that Mayuri raised
>MMS is inevitable in beta [...] need to be in correct world line to understand it
How does that work exactly, faggot?
Also regardless of the past present and future changing for most of the beta lines (other than the S;G super rare derivative) zero needs to occur. For Zero to have occurred Alpha must have occurred. Beta and Alpha are one fucking line. They are inherently inseparable.
Seriously consider it. Kagari comes back in the original beta timeline before Okabe ever goes to alpha. This means he was always going to alpha and that he was always going to save mayuri and that he was always going to save kurisu and that he was always going to make S;G
He hasn't altered causality even once. It's just been atemporal causality.
>>160058195
The hell is this Global/Dreaming stuff you've made up? Amadeus got RS memories from an Alpha Kurisu who knew of Steins Gate.
The Chie lookalike's RS is just portrayed clumsily because they couldn't be bothered drawing new CGs.
Alpha was never the original.
>>160058948
>OC bitch
Kagari was born in the future and then came back. Beta's time travel war was always inevitable, even on the original line.
>How does that work
I dunno, you'd have to ask the lab members. They made it.
>>160041985
It was indeed, how Kirino decided to forgive Manami and faced head on the problems she had with her, point for Manami too to give Kirino the opportunity to do so but too little too late and it was more an announcement of surrender from her part, but you know this already.
This fucking bitch was my worst girl of Spring 2016. May she rot in hell for eternity.
>>160059181
>even on the original time line
Buddy. Keep up. There is no original line. That's what I'm telling you. It's all one fucking line
>the labmem made something that works on non-constructed timelines
Wouldn't that give you the clue that perhaps constructed/destructed isn't what we think it is?
Because 0 makes it basically impossible for it to casually be the case
>>160059181
>chie's look alike is clumsy
Except when she recalls it without CGs. She claims to have witnessed near hundreds of Mayuri's deaths in her dreams. These dreams occurred after when Mayuri was supposed to have died. Similarly the patients dreamed of WW3. Similarly in S;G Okabe dreams of the black hole and getting sent back to primal earth.
'Chie's' Steiner doesn't work at all like Reading stiener which is based on the users frame of reference over writing the originals each reconstruction. They are different phenomena. Same with Amadeus. Lets say a future Kurisu knew about S;G to the detail Amadeus was using. Even then, in this year and time frame Amadeus shouldnt be inheriting that knowledge if the mechanics of reading stiener are in play
The MMS alone proves it and that your only response is to refer to convergence is telling. Okabe isnt beholden to convergence and has fucked of convergent forces multiple times. Further why would he send back a dud MMS? Why would the MMS ALWAYS translate if you neared zero. How can one near zero but not be on it completely if you play by the reconstruction rules
>>160058911
This no prove nothing
>>160059181
>>160059514
Either Zero was a rushed hack job (which the implementation and use of kagari and 'chie' would support) or the mechanics have updated yet again, just like they did multiple times in S;G.
Or I suppose I could be wrong but so far you haven't been able to dispute any of my points. A dud MMS could totally be convergent but not one that magically clicks over you enter a near zero timeline (as based on okabe's potential reaction) and only at a certain point.
>>160054389
That is a horrible misunderstanding of how anime is made. Sales are but a small factor, and the ones that matter are not the BD's but the source material.
Modern anime is basically a glorified late night infomercial designed to sell you shit. If you buy the stuff, they create more infomercials.
S1 of the anime boosted sales of the manga, so it got a season 2. The only reason why a season 3 would not be made is if season 2 doesn't boost the sales of the manga further, since the informercial for the second time was not as effective as the first one.
>>160059653
Season 2 sold way less than season 1, if you can't connect the dots read a book on economics until you understand why that is a bad thing.
>>160041035
>>160046167
Is this a Lynn Minmay?
Regardless, thanks for reminding me.
>>160060187
Best post of the thread. Fuck Minmei
>>160059514
>There is no original line
Sure there is. The one you see in the prologue.
>constructed/destructed isn't what we think it is
Calculating the divergence of lines that never manifested has always been possible. The meter has a consistent reference point across lines, and Okabe knows that Steins Gate exists because it was calculated in the original VN.
>She claims to have witnessed near hundreds of Mayuri's deaths in her dreams. These dreams occurred after when Mayuri was supposed to have died.
Witnessed, or heard about? Because it sounds like traumatic memories of her friend being forced to the surface to me.
Admittedly, it's been a while since I read 0, so I'm not too clear on this particular point.
>Similarly the patients dreamed of WW3.
Yes they did. Some WW3s get started pretty early.
>Similarly in S;G Okabe dreams of the black hole and getting sent back to primal earth
Those were literally just dreams and I really dislike how 0 tried to make those relevant to anything beyond Okabe's fears in the original VN.
>MMS
Okabe is definitely bound by convergence. It affects everyone and everything in a line. No one knows how the MMS works, only that it's a new technology based on D-Mail.
>>160059658
Zero was definitely rushed and not as tight as the original. They made a lot of dumb decisions and tragically failed to explore a few interesting ideas brought up in the story. I wouldn't be surprised if they did in fact fuck it up a little and introduce mechanical flaws into a story which had none.
Anyway, I'm done now. Typing this on a phone is awful.
>>160059445
Fucking bitch. Watching that red headed guy stab the shit out of her was the most satisfying scene in that anime. Like watching a pimple get burst.
>>160060362
Yeah I didn't want to get too into it but I got carried away.
Fuck you for being a filthy phone poster but have a good one, I guess.
>>160060459
You too anon.
Shimotsuki already got mentioned but she deserves to be mentioned again. PP S2 was just unbearable in general.
Also fuck Five. Not that ZnT was some flawless masterpiece but it went completely downhill once Five got introduced.
Words cannot describe how much I want to hurt this worthless cunt. Hell, I'd gladly kill her grandson just because I hate her that much.
>>160052566
S2? No, she ruined the manga by hijacking it. They might as well rename the series, "My wife is the discipline committee chair."
>>160053579
>>160052741
That's a great way of saying megumin.
>>160061896
The three main girls in Konosuba are all trash. Entertaining trash though.
>>160058932
are you new here? the "must have X iq to understand this anime" thing is a meme
>>160041730
this
>>160063878
I don't think you know what meme means. Im also willing to bet you say cucked when you mean fucked.
>>160063943
>be me
>meme historian of 25+ years
>practicing creator of memes across all media for 20+ years
>patron of the memes for 15+ years
>literally the renaissance man of memes
>open up /a/ one day
>post a comment
>"You don't even know what meme means"
>mfw
>>160058773
I agree with that sentiment.
>>160064077
This post has enough autism in it to become a pasta
>>160064077
This is advanced shitposting.