I put off boku no hero for a while because it seemed like your typical generic shonen anime but one day I decided, what the hell let's check this anime out. For the most part, the anime was fairly generic, the characters seem black and white, you had heroes and you had villains. Hell, some of the characters were so 2 dimensional that they even went around calling themselves villains, I mean who even does that? The plot was fairly predictable, you have a protagonist that starts out weak and gradually gets stronger with every new challenge. For the most part everything was fairly straight forward, and yet I really liked the show. I don't know why but this show really hit me in the feels. Not many animes do that. I dunno if it's because I strongly identify with the underdog theme or if there is something else?
>>160005633
>Boku no hero
You're talking about Boku no Pico
>>160005729
Huh?
Execution is an intangible few people know how to articulate, and fewer still know how to properly appreciate.
>>160005633
>animes
Just stop.
>>160005633
For real though, this anime was boring as fuck. Dropped S2 4 episodes in. Watching Deku goof his way to the top every episode was tiring.
>>160007208
Yeah the way deku won the tournament was so shit
The only real high point in th manga is AM vs AFO, no other arc has been above meh
>>160005729
>still making that joke
You need to go back to Fagbook
>>160005633
It has very simple characterizations, but the designs are really nice to look at, as well as the bold art style and such. In many ways it is generic but it is also very captivating because of its endless possibilities of quirks and the characters.
>>160008057
Must have been episode 3 that I got up to, don't remember that.
>>160005633
It's hitting something primal inside of you. You know you've seen it a hundred times, you know it's not really good, but it reminds you of simpler times. It's the nostalgia factor from when you watched shounen shit as a kid, without the disappointment that came later. But worry not.The disappointment is on its way.
>>160005633
I think both the real world and real life people are much more black and white than people give them credit for. Plenty of people are completely two dimensional and predictable.
Seeing archetypes in media is often much more resonating than seeing a character who doesn't fit a mold. Many people know a childhood rival or nice girl love interest in real life.
>>160007000
This.
>>160008057
>Yeah the way deku won the tournament was so shit
But he didn't win?
>>160008338
That's the joke
>>160005633
The reason something becomes generic to start with is because it has be proven to be successful in the past.
>>160005633
This shit anime like copy of naruto but with superhero
>>160005633
You wanna know the real reason? It's because of the sound and music. That's why you like it.
>>160008338
Deku is bullshit win every fight like onepunchman
>>160009226
While this certainly has a lot to do with it, I hope you don't mean it as a criticism. Execution is important and sound design is a big part of execution.
>>160009207
>>160009230
esl please leave
>>160009226
But I read the manga.
>>160005633
Don't really know if it's generic or not. Side characters are interesting and powers are done well. Also having a clear hero and villain doesn't make for bad writing (nor not having it indicates good writing).
>>160010623
Exactly what anon meant. The sound and music, coupled with the voice acting there delivers an excellent experience.
>>160005633
"Generic" anime and manga are made to appeal to the widest audience possible, just like pop music and Hollywood summer flicks. Why do you think they're so popular?
Congrats on being the 99% I guess.
>>160011004
>>160006900
A really bad joke.
>>160011004
*tips fedora*
>>160007000
Kinda why I liked MJP even though there wasn't a single original thing in it. There was a degree of polish that damned few other anime bother with.
But were Majestic Prince had excellent fights, Boku No Hero Academia has characterization. Boil Deku down and he's actually pretty generic. HOWEVER, the way we see him struggle and suffer such pains with a smile makes the typical stuttering nerd into an endearing character we want to see more of.
>>160007208
Ah, so you didn't watch it.
Your loss.
>>160008338
Shhh. don't explain the joke
>>160010722
Salty much?
>>160012093
Boy, I just said that I did watch it. "you just gotta watch x amount of episodes before it gets good" isn't an argument.
>>160012176
No you didn't or you wouldn't complain about Deku winning.
>>160012367
Having watched only 4 episodes into S2 wouldn't that mean he only watched the race? The only part Deku actually wins?
That's pretty funny.
>>160012408
Hell, Deku barely wins that one and it ends up screwing him over in the next event.
>>160012438
>Deku barely wins
Yeah, that's how he's done everything in the show so far, it's boring. Literally Ass-pull: the character. They build up that he's getting stronger in season one with the training he does with All-Might, but then he goes back to being a goober immediately after. I feel if this is the characters only trait then I should just drop it now.
>>160012641
Except he doesn't win.
You can have a great idea but poorly executed ir you could have a poor idea greatly executed.
>>160005633
It's still generic.
>>160012726
but he does
>>160005633
It's shit and the fanbase is autistic and will call you a shitposter if you don't believe their manga is a godsend.
It's barely above isekaishit in my opinion.
>>160010661
>Side characters are interesting
They literally do nothing besides standing there and agreeing with Deku
>powers are done well
Thoses are the most uninspired powers I've ever seen in shonen, this shouldn't be a bonus.
>>160013143
>the fanbase is autistic
You're pretty far gone anon. What you think of it aside, BnHA is pretty well received by normalfags.
>>160013445
I should've been more precise, I'm only talking about the fanbase on /a/.
Outside of /a/ it's pretty normalfag stuff, tho I sometimes see ads for it in the theaters so the marketing budget for it must be off the chart.
>>160005633
>animes
>>160006900
>not knowing boku no pico
Holy shit how new can you be? Go back to MAL
>>160010661
>>160013248
I think he meant the character DESIGNS are interesting.
>>160013077
No, he looses in the semi-finals against half and half.
>>160013642
The MC looks like shit in his first costume and simply boring on the latter ones but the fags on /a/ will try to make you believe it's meant to be boring and you just don't get it.
>>160013248
>They literally do nothing besides standing there and agreeing with Deku
Good to see you didn't read it
>Thoses are the most uninspired powers I've ever seen in shonen
Good to see you don't read much shounen
>>160013713
You are trying way too hard kid.
>>160013077
The only guy that Deku defeated alone so far was the Muscular, and he fucked himself later, so he had to stop using his arms.
>>160013738
>Good to see you didn't read it
I read the first 5 or 6 arcs (until they rescued Bakugou) anjd dropped it, because the side characters did nothing besides standing there and agreeing with Deku
>Good to see you don't read much shounen
Name one with more uninspired powers than "super strength", "super speed", "explosions".
>>160013583
>I'm only talking about the fanbase on /a/
Fair enough. I even really enjoy BnHA and don't really like the threads.
>>160013077
>but he does
I guess the only time he's ever "won" on his own merits, is that fight to protect that kid in the summer lodge arc. After he "won" he failed to save his friend and nearly paralyzed his arms. Otherwise its luck or his friends. He even loses to Captain Murder when he hits 8% cowl in 1v1.
Frankly it's refreshing to see someone lose fair and square, even with plot power.
>>160013248
>They literally do nothing besides standing there and agreeing with Deku
INCORRECT. Ura basically has her own episode going up against Bakugo and Mr. Can't-Stop-Talking-With-His-Hands is in the middle of his own arc.
>Thoses are the most uninspired powers I've ever seen in shonen, this shouldn't be a bonus.
It's not the powers, it's the application of powers that matters.
>>160013854
>because the side characters did nothing besides standing there and agreeing with Deku
>Sports festival had everyone systematically avoiding him throughout and him being shot down by his friend
>In the Stain arc he didn't really have a plan and everyone was just doing their own thing to stay alive
>In the end of the term arc his partner wouldn't cooperate with him at all
The cast don't fellate him and see him more as a liability, he has his own circle of friends but even they call him out occasionally. Really the story is all about how he isn't a golden boy and has to work himself up from zero.
>generic shounen apologist getting BTFO'd
>>160013854
>why is the protagonist the focus of this story?
thats pretty dumb anon. If i wanted to watch the hero get shat on id watch Evangelion. No, the story is explicity how Deku became the worlds greatest hero. Of course hes capable and charismatic, its a shounen manga.
Also, name one with more inspired powers like "crystallized heroic will", "internal combustion engine legs" and "nitrogyclerine sweat"
>>160014147
Where?
>>160014198
Dont try it anon, he has the high ground- his image had the word cuck in it
>>160013738
>You are trying way too hard kid.
Yeah I agree with you friend, Donkey-boy is VERY neat.
>>160014262
>shit cosplay = shit design
>>160014262
That's not even his current costume
>>160014262
That one did suck, but I don't understand what kind of point you're trying to make with it either. It was used like once.
its good, you can tell just by watching/reading its already better than most.
>>160014262
Say what you will about the Deku Costume that cosplay is utter garbage.
Makin me want to go learn how to knit and whatever just to make a better one.
>>160014577
When you think about it, the costume is actually allegorical. Like how it always gets trashed and rebuilt better.
>>160014941
No it fucking isn't.
And depending on whether or not it will fit their argument the fans will claim it's good because it's full of clichés done right or good because it doesn't go for the clichés resolutions.
It's literally worse than Naruto was at the start.
Alot of people don't seem to understand that series like Hero Academia and Black Clover are, for many Japanese children or young teens, their first shonen series they're really getting into.
It's all new to them.
They stick with overdone tropes and predictable drama because it's time-tested and it works.
It's generic, yes, but those other generic series aren't around anymore so these feel the void.
Of course there's still a difference - Hero Academia is pretty competent and manages to still have enough of a distinct flair that you can enjoy it normally. Something like Black Clover is the complete opposite and doesn't even try to be interesting, it's basically trash but can still present an appeal.
>>160015260
You're just making up buzzwords to pretend the trash you like is better than the trash you dislike.
>>160015260
tl;dr: You're getting old.
>>160015099
Okay, break it down to points, what do you hate about it?
Make it as clear as possible or you'll sound like some kind of troll.
>>160015078
That's a neat way of looking at it.
>>160015361
...what buzzwords?
>>160015361
What?
>>160015552
It probably wasn't intentional, though. All the really good symbolism tends to be accidential or subconcious.
>>160005633
Fun fact. Quality and delivery can make even old tropes good. Well being original and different don't come close to equating to being good or interesting by default.
>>160015657
I figure as much as well, but it's still cool.
>>160015487
Deku is a shit MC
>Boring power
>Design is shit
>Never worked out for his goal until he had All Might promising AfO as a carrot
>Either dumb as fuck or smart enough to come up with good strategies in the same arc (for example, manage to combine everyone's quirk together in the cavalry battle in the tournament and immediatly after fall for Mindrape's quirk)
>Never suffer any kind of permanent injury despite how many time he's threatened with it
Worldbuilding is severely lacking and society seems to have barely changed beyond heroes and villains.
Most quirks seen are borings and the weirder ones don't usually stick around long.
Author pussied out on killing All Might and while it's understandable given the merchandise everyone praises it as if it was obvious he wasn't going for the generic 'dead mentor" trope while you have fanboy like >>160015260 praising the manga for being generic.
Secondaries cast is practically worthless without Deku or simply do things no one cares about half-offscreen, and people defend it at being "Deku's story" even tho most shonen featuring a MC working toward a goal also feature a secondary cast that is more fleshed out and participate more heavily in the plot.
Some arcs also don't make any damn sense, like can someone explain to me why did Deku and his minions (sorry, friends) went and risked their life to rescue Bakugou without telling the pro heroes? Obviously it worked out for them but I still don't understand why, considering they weren't in any kind of rush and they supposedly have respect for the pro heroes.
Also they constantly talked about a mole in U.A that helped the villain find the locations of the training camp in the mountain but they leave for their secret camp in buses full of students that are anything but stealthies.
I dropped it when the arc where AM should've died ended so maybe som of thoses points have been addressed but I gave the manga more than enough chances to prove itself to me.
>>160016259
>Boring power
>Design is shit
I'll grant you these are true in the beginning but considering where Deku takes his power and how his outfit develops it becomes less and less of an issue.
Additionally, these are pretty superficial things.
>Never worked out for his goal until he had All Might promising AfO as a carrot
Keep in mind that it's basically impossible for a quirkless to become a hero. As far as Deku knew his dream was absolutely unobtainable.
>Either dumb as fuck or smart enough to come up with good strategies in the same arc (for example, manage to combine everyone's quirk together in the cavalry battle in the tournament and immediatly after fall for Mindrape's quirk)
Nobody really knew what Shinso's power was beyond mind control and Deku had no reason to believe that it was responding to him verbally.
>Never suffer any kind of permanent injury despite how many time he's threatened with it
Deku's right hand is actually deformed now.
Besides, it's a shonen anime. If Deku got crippled, BnHA would have been booted up to a R rating.
>Worldbuilding is severely lacking and society seems to have barely changed beyond heroes and villains.
Worldbuilding just isn't the focus. We know enough to keep track of the plot and not much more.
>Most quirks seen are borings and the weirder ones don't usually stick around long.
Cellophane is still walking about.
>Author pussied out on killing All Might and while it's understandable given the merchandise everyone praises it as if it was obvious he wasn't going for the generic 'dead mentor" trope while you have fanboy like >>160015260 praising the manga for being generic.
All Might could still end up dying a violent death.
>>160005633
>the characters seem black and white, you had heroes and you had villains.
What's fucking wrong with that? Not everything has to be about moral ambiguity you enormous faggot. Holy shit this edgy kids.
>>160016563
>I'll grant you these are true in the beginning
His quirk was actually more interesting in the beginning because he couldn't control it. Now that he somewhat can it's even more boring.
>Additionally, these are pretty superficial things.
The fucking design and power of the MC are "superficial"?
>As far as Deku knew his dream was absolutely unobtainable.
And he still wanted to try, but fuck trying to work out, this actually takes commitment.
>Nobody really knew what Shinso's power was beyond mind control and Deku had no reason to believe that it was responding to him verbally.
Tailguy literally tells him that
>Deku's right hand is actually deformed now.
Is there actually any panel where you can see how it affects his life beyond having some cool scars?
>Besides, it's a shonen anime. If Deku got crippled, BnHA would have been booted up to a R rating.
Not like FMA exist. And if you agree it was never going to happen anyway why make it a plot point?
>Cellophane is still walking about.
Good, one example of a tertiary character. Did he even got a solo fight? I might just read the chapters where it happens.
>All Might could still end up dying a violent death.
We both know he won't. He's too popular.
>>160016259
>Secondaries cast is practically worthless without Deku or simply do things no one cares about half-offscreen, and people defend it at being "Deku's story" even tho most shonen featuring a MC working toward a goal also feature a secondary cast that is more fleshed out and participate more heavily in the plot.
The main cast already has a full hand of 5 and that's if we leave out Creatie, Red Riot, and Froppy.
>Some arcs also don't make any damn sense, like can someone explain to me why did Deku and his minions (sorry, friends) went and risked their life to rescue Bakugou without telling the pro heroes? Obviously it worked out for them but I still don't understand why, considering they weren't in any kind of rush and they supposedly have respect for the pro heroes.
Because Bakugo was their friend and Hero's aren't the kind of people that sit back when people are in trouble.
>Also they constantly talked about a mole in U.A that helped the villain find the locations of the training camp in the mountain but they leave for their secret camp in buses full of students that are anything but stealthies.
Keep in mind that UA is more like law enforcement and disaster relief than a military force. For them, an undisclosed camp in the middle of the mountains is as secret as it gets.
>>160016259
>for example, manage to combine everyone's quirk together in the cavalry battle in the tournament and immediatly after fall for Mindrape's quirk
I don't get it. Do you want him to be a gary stu and get everything right all the time?
>>160016909
>The main cast already has a full hand of 5 and that's if we leave out Creatie, Red Riot, and Froppy.
5 is a small number but if you say thoses 5 characters are as developed and get as much scenes or time to shine as others secondaries characters in other shonen you are actually lying to defend your shitty manga.
>Because Bakugo was their friend and Hero's aren't the kind of people that sit back when people are in trouble.
This is a bullshit reason, this is like going into a house on fire to rescue the people trapped here when the firemen are already on the scene. All you're going to do is hindering their jobs and most likely putting yourself in danger.
This is on the same level as thoses Jenovah cartoons that want to make you believe it's fine to throw away another kid's toy because it's a wizard.
>Keep in mind that UA is more like law enforcement and disaster relief than a military force. For them, an undisclosed camp in the middle of the mountains is as secret as it gets.
Sound like you're making excuses for the plot because they clearly point out they've taken measures to not be found out.
>>160017096
>I don't get it. Do you want him to be a gary stu and get everything right all the time?
I want coherence. Making him smart and dumb in the same arc for no reason is shit writing. I don't see how it's complicated, but apparently you think that this is the case.
>>160017226
No, it's not. He made good strategic decisions but is still shown to make emotional ones as well, which is what he did when Mindrape guy provoked him. It's not even complicated writing.
>>160016884
>His quirk was actually more interesting in the beginning because he couldn't control it. Now that he somewhat can it's even more boring.
Full Cowl is still pretty damned weak by comparison. It barely lets Deku fight on par with most of his foes.
>The fucking design and power of the MC are "superficial"?
Because good storytelling has nothing to do with what a character has and everything to do with what they do with what they have.
>And he still wanted to try, but fuck trying to work out, this actually takes commitment.
Does Mt. Lady look like she works out? How about Eraserhead? Why work out for a dream you can't achieve when it might not help you even if you could achieve it?
>Tailguy literally tells him that
Not in the anime. In the manga, Deku tries to hold it back but Shinso is a master at provoking people.
>Is there actually any panel where you can see how it affects his life beyond having some cool scars?
Do we really want or need that?
>Not like FMA exist. And if you agree it was never going to happen anyway why make it a plot point?
First off, FMA/FMA:B was Seinen. Don't apply it's rules to a shonen anime.
Second, it explains why his teachers aren't giving him Training from Hell. Deku already does that to himself.
>Good, one example of a tertiary character. Did he even got a solo fight? I might just read the chapters where it happens.
Yup, against Shoto.
>We both know he won't. He's too popular.
IT HAS BEEN FORTOLD BY THE GREATEST OF SOOTHSAYERS.
Yea
>>160017336
>First off, FMA/FMA:B was Seinen.
I have no stake in this conversation but just saw this. FMA was published in a shounen magazine.
THE DEKU
WHO ALWAYS DOES
HER BEST
It finds a way.
>>160005633
Nice /cc/
Made me reply
>>160017157
>This is a bullshit reason, this is like going into a house on fire to rescue the people trapped here when the firemen are already on the scene. All you're going to do is hindering their jobs and most likely putting yourself in danger.
Ah, so you kinda missed the point of the story entirely. It's a superhero story, if you have the power to act you have the responsibility to do so.
>5 is a small number but if you say thoses 5 characters are as developed and get as much scenes or time to shine as others secondaries characters in other shonen you are actually lying to defend your shitty manga.
I'm curious about what anime's you're talking about.
>Sound like you're making excuses for the plot because they clearly point out they've taken measures to not be found out.
And what kind of story would this be if things didn't go wrong?
>>160017457
Well it made an attempt
>>160017336
>Good, one example of a tertiary character. Did he even got a solo fight? I might just read the chapters where it happens.
>Yup, against Shoto.
Not the other guy, didn't he get Iced overed by Shoto in the first 10 seconds of the fight
>>160006900
>>160017538
The sticky tape guy, right? Yes, but you didn't ask for a serious fight.
Otherwise he'd be a main character.
>>160007208
>>160008057
I find it cheesy as fuck.
>>160017336
>Full Cowl is still pretty damned weak by comparison. It barely lets Deku fight on par with most of his foes.
I don't give a fuck, this isn't my point.
>Because good storytelling has nothing to do with what a character has
You are completely retarded and I bet you felt smart writing that sentence.
>Does Mt. Lady look like she works out? How about Eraserhead?
Both of them have quirk
> Why work out for a dream you can't achieve when it might not help you even if you could achieve it?
Then why have this dream? And why do you proclaim every chance you get that you're going to try to reach for his dream
>Not in the anime.
Why should I give a shit?
> In the manga, Deku tries to hold it back but Shinso is a master at provoking people.
He just called some guy a faget, Deku was retarded, plain and simple.
>First off, FMA/FMA:B was Seinen. Don't apply it's rules to a shonen anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmetal_Alchemist
>It was serialized in Square Enix's Monthly Shōnen Gangan magazine between August 2001 and June 2010;
>Demographic Shōnen
>Deku already does that to himself.
Bull fucking shit you barely see him work out with babies weight
>Yup, against Shoto.
So you're trolling, gotcha
>>160005633
>Hell, some of the characters were so 2 dimensional that they even went around calling themselves villains
They only do this as a front, pretty sure that's revealed a few episodes after the League of Villains/Villain Alliance name is revealed. They obviously believe they're justified in what they're doing and aren't on the wrong side of things.
Is Shoto metaphorically Ranma or just literally Ranma
>>160017528
>Ah, so you kinda missed the point of the story entirely. It's a superhero story, if you have the power to act you have the responsibility to do so.
This excuse the characters being retarded?
>I'm curious about what anime's you're talking about.
One Piece, Soul Eater, Naruto, Bleach, Fire Brigade of Flame, Toriko, Fairy Tail, FMA, even the most bottom of the barrel shonen knows that you need a secondary cast to vary things.
>And what kind of story would this be if things didn't go wrong?
Don't switch the argument, I'm saying that the author is retarded for talking about a mole when the mole doesn't need to exist for horrible things to happen to the students.
>>160009415
The "Deku is bullshit" one is obviously mockery/satire.
This is how retarded MHA faggots are.
>>160018473
>Stretchy punch
>stretchy kick
>slingshot
such a diverse moveset
>>160017457
Shaggy Dramatically Reads Keit-Ai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHfyLv6t5to
>>160017457
Already a thing.https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/keit-ai-finds-a-way/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/KeitAihttp://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825
>>160018413
>Bleach
>>160018473
Fanbase wars are cancer and belong on /v/. Go there.
>>160019261
What the fuck..
>>160005633
>not insta-dropping it because the MC is a dumb teenager
>>160019449
That's not fanbase war.
This is just to show that that's what the average MHA fan believe.
>>160019593
>one random asshole
>a representation of an entire group
I know this is bait but some people take this seriously and I hate it.
>>160019651
How about you wait a couple day, ask in a mha thread which character has the better moveset and see if this is just "one random asshole"
>>160019704
It's been established in this thread that the general faggots are, well faggots.
>>160015260
tl;dr: Generic battle shounen are popular because of entry-level faggots who've never read manga before. Thanks, but I think everyone already got that.
>>160019801
You get the fanbase you deserve.
>>160018264
>I don't give a fuck, this isn't my point.
But a self destructive only quirk is untennable from a narrative perspective.
>You are completely retarded and I bet you felt smart writing that sentence.
What's more interesting, somebody that starts with nothing and gets everything or someone with everything that gets everything?
>Both of them have quirk
Exactly my point. Quirks matter more than physical strength so training physical strength is a loosing proposition. Why bother?
>He just called some guy a faget, Deku was retarded, plain and simple.
Well, you seem to be loosing your cool from a bunch of text so I doubt you can throw stones.
>Bull fucking shit you barely see him work out with babies weight
He makes up for it with persistence. Remember that Midoriya does air sits in the middle of class. Deku might not have a large load but he never really stops working out.
>So you're trolling, gotcha
Look, if you wanted a big fight you should have said so. More importantly, you seem to have trouble with the idea of secondary characters being secondary.
>>160019945
BNHA deserves more than dirty fujowhales.
>>160020106
>But a self destructive only quirk is untennable from a narrative perspective.
Not my point, please stop trying to move the goalposts because you have no answers.
>What's more interesting, somebody that starts with nothing and gets everything or someone with everything that gets everything?
Same as above, you are tying to move the goalpost because you have no answer, I'm not going to bother answering you when you can't answer me.
>Why bother?
You still haven't answered my questions, but my apologies, I forgot the question mark at the end of
>try to reach for his dream
So here you go :[...]try to reach for his dream?*
Care to actually answer a question for once?
>Well, you seem to be loosing your cool from a bunch of text so I doubt you can throw stones.
Are you really going to get that far to avoid admitting I'm right?
> Remember that Midoriya does air sits in the middle of class.
You know what might be more useful? Training like he did with Gran Torino to actually not blow the fuck out of his limbs or looks like he's about to everytime he uses his quirk. Shame it took him several months to reach the point where some teacher actually told him that tho.
>More importantly, you seem to have trouble with the idea of secondary characters being secondary.
My point was that original quirks weren't in the spotlight enough, it's good that on that we agree.
>>160018413
One Piece,, Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, and Fairy Tail all have several times the length of My Hero Academia. It's not a fair comparison.
Soul eater never really developed secondary characters like Ox Ford and Harvar D.
>This excuse the characters being retarded?
More like 15 year olds being 15 year olds. Of course they're going to be brash and foolhardy.
>Don't switch the argument, I'm saying that the author is retarded for talking about a mole when the mole doesn't need to exist for horrible things to happen to the students.
Talking about a mole now lets the author pull one out later.
>>160020137
You get the fanbase you deserve. If you think the piece of fiction yo'ure enjoying doesn't deserve its fanbase you are overestimating the quality of if.
>>160020383
>One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Toriko, and Fairy Tail all have several times the length of My Hero Academia
Except that it still works if you compare the first ~120 chapters.
>Soul eater never really developed secondary characters like Ox Ford and Harvar D.
Soul Eater also had seven protagonists.
>More like 15 year olds being 15 year olds
It's interesting that you have a very different argument that >>160017528 (assuming you're not the same person, in that case make up your mind) who claimed that they acted because it's a superhero story and they had to act.
>Talking about a mole now lets the author pull one out later.
Except there's really no reason for UA to know there's a mole, because no infos that the vilains used (like the camp's location) needed a mole to be found out.
>>160020364
>Not my point, please stop trying to move the goalposts because you have no answers.
>Same as above, you are tying to move the goalpost because you have no answer, I'm not going to bother answering you when you can't answer me.
Your point is immature and short sighted. Your basically asking for an all candy diet when really a more balanced one will be better in the end.
>You still haven't answered my questions, but my apologies, I forgot the question mark at the end of
No, you asked why he didn't train physically before OfA and I replied that physical training was pointless at that point in time.
>Are you really going to get that far to avoid admitting I'm right?
More like I'm demonstrating that people aren't perfect and expecting them to be is more fantasy than even Anime will go.
>You know what might be more useful? Training like he did with Gran Torino to actually not blow the fuck out of his limbs or looks like he's about to everytime he uses his quirk. Shame it took him several months to reach the point where some teacher actually told him that tho.
First off, Only Almight actually knows how OfA works and it's been stated that he sucks at teaching.
>My point was that original quirks weren't in the spotlight enough, it's good that on that we agree.
Frankly, there are too many quirks to focus on. For better or worse.
>>160020581
>Except that it still works if you compare the first ~120 chapters.
Only if you wear nostalgia goggles.
>Soul Eater also had seven protagonists.
Please, Kirishima got more development than both the Thomson sisters.
>It's interesting that you have a very different argument that >>160017528 (You) (assuming you're not the same person, in that case make up your mind) who claimed that they acted because it's a superhero story and they had to act.
If you believe they are separate lines of reasoning then you've forgotten what kind of foolishness idealism makes people do.
>Except there's really no reason for UA to know there's a mole, because no infos that the vilains used (like the camp's location) needed a mole to be found out.
Well, besides the fact that tailing a bus through the utterly unpopulated wilderness would have been damned suspicious.
Remember, Japan's population is tightly packed in the cities. The countryside is mostly uninhabited.
>>160020808
>Your basically asking for an all candy diet
No I don't. You are literally putting words in my mouth.
>No, you asked why he didn't train physically before OfA and I replied that physical training was pointless at that point in time.
Sorry, I guess I didn't write this post >>160018264
And I especially didn't write that part
>Then why have this dream? And why do you proclaim every chance you get that you're going to try to reach for his dream
My bad
>More like I'm demonstrating that people aren't perfect and expecting them to be is more fantasy than even Anime will go.
So to you, a character going from pretty smart to drooling retard make sense and expecting coherence is asking the author to make them Mary Sue? You're just deforming my point again.
>First off, Only Almight actually knows how OfA works and it's been stated that he sucks at teaching.
Yes, Deku clearly needs a mentor, not like he could've trained to use his quirk on his own during the months in the soty when nothing happens, nu-huh, nope.
>Frankly, there are too many quirks to focus on. For better or worse.
So focusing on the boring ones make sense, ok.
>>160021174
>Only if you wear nostalgia goggles.
There's a point where you should stop lying. Are you honestly saying than in its first 10 volumes or so BnHA focus more on its secondaries cast than thoses mangas?
>Please, Kirishima got more development than both the Thomson sisters.
In 120 chapters all his development was
>manly man who can get hard and also is friend with Bakugou
But I heard he got a mini--arc recently, so yeah. one secondary character actually got to do something that mattered, cool. The Thomson sisters at least were presents and even though they just follow Kid around they do other stuff than agreeing with him, unlike BnHA's secondary cast with Deku.
>If you believe they are separate lines of reasoning then you've forgotten what kind of foolishness idealism makes people do.
Oh, ok, so our secondary cast is a bunch of retarded teenagers, my question is then : how come no one else know this?
>Well, besides the fact that tailing a bus through the utterly unpopulated wilderness
Not like it's a setting where people are born with semi-random superpowers huh, how weird that the author forget about it whenever it's more convenient.
>Remember, Japan's population is tightly packed in the cities. The countryside is mostly uninhabited.
Who the fuck cares, it's fantasy Japan.
>>160021756
I'm not that anon, but I kinda wanna jump in here.
In the first few volumes they give a pretty heavy focus on the dynamic between deku and bomber-man, as well as a developing mentor student relationship between him and allmight. Otherwise it just introduces the other characters without elaborating on them much. That stuff comes a bit later in the sports festival, but that's a little far forward.
>>160023522
Cont.
To be honest though, Xplosions entire deal is that he wants to be the best, and that he is angry about deku even coming close to him. He has had a hard ingrained superiority complex since he was like 3 or 4. That's about all there is to him though. Allmight is just there to be some kind of role model, and exemplifies what a hero should be in the universe.
It's hard to say that up to this current chapter anyone has made significant character development other than bakugo, todo, Ida, uraraka, allmight, kirishima most recently, and deku. I would like to note that the main villain, shiggy, hasn't developed at all hardly other than to be more of an asshole.
I feel like the only reason why the other kids just say alright let's follow deku is because he seems to always have some kind of a plan when he is working as a team. He has shown himself to be a decent, albeit not great, leader. More recently though he does have an encounter with tintin, who has more experience, tells him not to act even if he really wants to.
On the bit about him being dumb one second and smart the other, he had a plan going in but became distracted by mindfucks provocations. The time with todo he was hopped up on adrenaline from annihilating his fingers and arms, I would wager most people would be.
Dunno how they found the base, they haven't touched on it since it happened. Anything is conjecture at this point.
Oh, and he doesn't train physically but he has developed and encyclopedic knowledge of pro heroes powers as well as the villains they fought against. All might in particular. It was a "while you were out getting laid I stayed inside to study the blad- I mean heroes." Kinda situation. Gives him some insight others might not have had. Though him being a weakling more greatly emphasizes his zero to hero thing. Imagine if Hercules was a total chump at the beginning
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>>160019943
Salty ass /a/nons i swear to god you guys never cease to make me bust the fuck up haha
This manga is fantastic for exactly what it is
Its a shonen
its literally a story written for young kids, and it delivers on all things that a kid could want
-cool designs/great art
-relatable chars (tropes are tropes for a reason)
-cool actions scenes
-actual life lessons top be learned
-fun universe
In fact, I think its great because although it is written for younger kids, there are certain themes that only an adult would fully comprehend, thus opening its target market even moreAlso, Black Clover isn't even that bad. Its cliche as fuck, but as a whole is done rather well
>>160021502
>So to you, a character going from pretty smart to drooling retard make sense and expecting coherence is asking the author to make them Mary Sue? You're just deforming my point again.
More like a character having an emotional weakpoint in their thinking is perfectly acceptable.
>Yes, Deku clearly needs a mentor, not like he could've trained to use his quirk on his own during the months in the soty when nothing happens, nu-huh, nope.
Considering that by the tournament arc he's just getting used to using OfA without hurting himself I'd say Deku is actually training independently.
>There's a point where you should stop lying. Are you honestly saying than in its first 10 volumes or so BnHA focus more on its secondaries cast than thoses mangas?
So you knew what Kiba's motivation was by the end of the Chunin exam?
>In 120 chapters all his development was
Still, we understand Kirishima's goals and attitude better than we understand the Thompson sisters and MHA isn't even done yet.
>In 120 chapters all his development was
Based on real japan and in real japan following a bus out of a city would be very suspicious.
>Not like it's a setting where people are born with semi-random superpowers huh, how weird that the author forget about it whenever it's more convenient
Irrelevant, if you took possible information gathering quirks into account then it would have been impossible to hide the class anyway.
>Oh, ok, so our secondary cast is a bunch of retarded teenagers, my question is then : how come no one else know this?
Oh the teachers knew this, they just didn't have the means to do anything about it.
I mean what are you going to do? Give them detention for something they haven't done yet?
>>160023577
Oh don't mind me, I just like to argue.
>>160023577
Why the fuck are you quoting me when I literally just paraphrased what the guy I replied to said? It's popular with nip kids who haven't read other shit. That has nothing to do with whether it's good, nor does it have anything to do with its popularity on an 18+ English-language board where everyone is expected to have a decent powerlevel before posting.
>Salt ass /a/nons
>haha
Jesus Christ, fuck off.
>>160023757
you really are just as salty as they come its annoying
Youre insinuating its 'bad' because its liked by the audience its intended for? You cant even argue properly cause youre like a literal real life bakugo. Inflated to hell ass ego border lining on autistic
>>160005633
without the blonde angry guy this show would not be worth shit
>>160024168
> Youre insinuating its 'bad' because its liked by the audience its intended for
No, I'm fucking not, what? I'm very explicitly saying the fact that they like it has nothing to do with whether it's good.
>>160024168
Actually, he's saying that the quality of an anime has nothing to do with it's popularity. Still fallacious since there are tons of anime that never went anywhere because of how bad they are.
>>160024337
> Still fallacious since there are tons of anime that never went anywhere because of how bad they are.
If you want to get really autistic about this, I'll say that being popular does not inherently have anything to do with quality, that in practice there is no strong correlation between popularity and quality, and that popularity thus doesn't fucking belong in the discussion.
>>160024331
ummm
>your 'superior' english speaking well seasoned taste is greater than the 'entry level faggot japanese kids'
You may be wrapping your opinions up so that people cant counter argue, but its obvious what youre actually doing.
>>160024427
Anon, all I'm "actually doing" is rebuffing your argument that "it's good because kids like it." I happen to think BnHA is bad, and I'm saying that the fact it appeals to kids doesn't change it. However, in no way, shape, or form, am I insinuating that kids liking something means it's bad.
>>160014381
>suit slowly looks more and more like Kamen rider
>uses mainly kicks now
Deku is going to become the ideal Japanese hero in appearance as a counterpart to All Might isn't he?
>>160024694
If you assume the American hero is always superman, sure.
>>160005633
Because it has too many good characters.
Maybe you just being influenced by others and enjoy something despite being told something you like is shit and no one should enjoy it?
Because many retards hardly even watch things they supposed to hate, so here you again, loving this shit because you have no real experience with this shit.
Or maybe this whole "hurr durr generic original crap muhg good story plot characters yada yada" is just a pretentious rumble and things aren't decided by some set up of fictional rules but your own self?
We live in the age of fear just having fun, you can say having fun is prohibited. Simple stories about simple morales are being looked down upon, because at some point even being a kid is prohibited, and so many grow up without enjoying the simplicity of life and not having to taste of bitterness of life, which is why many used to be edgy kiddos and only at adult age, they start to enjoy something they used to look down upon.
>>160027568
Please learn English.