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No new episode this saturday, instead we get some time with seiyuus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBGlNR93AQA
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>The uploader has not made this video available in your country
I'm going to pretend you're lying. Oh you silly anon and your silly lies. They can't take this break after the recap from a few days ago.
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>>159998751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCyjA17UwL4
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>>159998751
It's true ep 16 in 10 days and x hours
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>>159998807
O-ok.
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>>159998751
They can and will. And after episode 16 there will be another "special". This is even worse than recaps because at least the recap was fun.
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>>159998807
JUST C͏U͏C͏K MY SHIT UP
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>>159998807
I was hoping it was going to be a big ironic joke like the recap

But they're actually doing this
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>>159998822
anime is dead
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>>159998751
I'm just going to assume this is some kind of sick joke Aniplex is playing on us, they can't be that incompetent
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>>159998807
We just had a recap who in the managing sector of the team thought this was a good idea?
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I love seiyuu
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Is Charon dead yet?
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>>159999144
"This was all planned from the start"
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>>159999166
that implyes he was alive at some point
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>>159999166
The pilot is hesitating,
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>>159999166
Who?
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>>159999040
Well they did give us Aldnoah.Zero.
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I think it's about time we discuss what the fuck this girl is going for at this moment.

Contrary to how it began as in pic related it's getting clear to me that she is no conductor in this orchestra.
There is no grand plan going on on her side now other than waiting for Meteora to play her hand.
Now that she has declared she is omnipotent to Blitz and that she will be the one to murder the entire cast in the battle to come.

Was she telling the truth in the church scene?
Was she genuine about anything she has said so far?
Was her name and intention enough to derail her plans, as in how she sperged out and killed Mamika?

I'm legit curious on how she envisioned this "glorious song".
Especially according to the fact it's revealed she has/had a spying circle over the whole cast.

How do you see it unfold? Altair versus the world? What role do Syo and Charon play, do you think it's wise to give pretty much unlimited powers to Hikayu?
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>>159999231
Zero Requiem.
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>>159999040
We also got another special after episode 16
Sasuga Aniplex
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>>159999231
she knows about their plans because she has a double agent in Meteora's team, Meteora herself, that acceptance spell shit is just setting Hime's plans, it will tell Altair that she can let herself loose on the fight
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>>159998807
>Hiroe: "Aoki, we've planned 22 episodes but Aniplex says we need 25"
>Aoki: "We'll make a recap and seyiuus specials in the middle of cour 2"
>*both laugh*
>TIME HAS COME TO LISTEN TO THE CRYING OF THEIR PUPPET SOULS starts playing
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>>159999231
Well according to Meteora, Altair's is sincere in what she says. This is according to Meteora and thus is beyond contestation.
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>>159999376
*21
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>>159998661
RIP this show
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>>159999406
21 episodes, the second cour is fucked.
Either we get season 2 or this shit is a trainwreck
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>>159999445
>Either we get season 2
Don't count on it
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>>159999445
If this shit is just a set up for a season 2 that we will never get i'm gonna be fucking pissed
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>>159999445
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>>159999231
Altair is simply a bad liar. Pretty much everything she says is a lie, but she says it in a way that makes her intention obvious. Which is why every character except Aliceteria immediately knew she plans to erase the world, and the characters that tried to understand her understood that she was a suffering little girl. It's likely that the end will reveal that she isn't making any moves because she is much more powerless than she seems to be, and everyone is confusing her combat strength with the ability to achieve her objectives.

And well, she wants a riot and Meteora is planning one that will end up involving. Her best move might be to wait for it, since the small previous fights aren't enough.
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>>159999385
>This is according to Meteora and thus is beyond contestation.
Great input dude. Glad to have you talking about the show with me.
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>>159999525
But Aliceteria has detect lie perk
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>>159999376
>we were the puppets all along
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>>159999649
She just has blood sniffing ability.
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>>159999743
She knew that Blitz was lying to her too in ep12
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>>159999231
She'll BTFO of everyone and Meteora's plan will be for nothing. She'll wait to initiate the doomsday until that point only because the plot demands it.

Soda will save the day at the last minute with some contrived UNDERSTANDING that convinces her not to erase the universe, and she'll vaporize with a tear running down her face. "Arigatou Soda, you were truly the Re-Creator"
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>>159999743
no, she can detect lies, the problem is that she can't understand 60% of Hime's words
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>>159999830
She was already cynical at that point. Everyone is a liar now, even the one who allowed her to hang out in her home as long as she didn't sit on her sofa.
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>>159999841
Soda will write himself into the story and become the God of Ink (a.k.a. the "god" mentioned in the pre-screening interview), and gain acceptance because he'd be everyone's favorite self-insert.
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>story by Hiroe Rei
>it doesn't have any action, tension, cynicism, black humor or x-rated themes
>at least the premise is interesting
>the story is just jerking itself over how awesome the premise is without actually delivering
>but the plot is good?
>it's about some beta schoolboy faggot getting nice things for abandoning his friend
>do we get to see creations' original stories?
>there are some random flashbacks for a couple of characters
>do characters interact with each other?
>not really, it's mostly infodumping
>are infodumps necessary?
>no, they just repeat the same ideas over and over again
>is background animation for infodumps good?
>no, it's unlimited still frame works
>are the rare scenes with intense animation good?
>the only attempts at ambitious animation in the entire show are recycled scenes from previous Aoki shows and a femdom scene by a freelance guy
>what about Sawano soundtrack?
>since there are no scenes for it epic tracks are playing over mundane dialogues
>at least there is no QUALITY since they aren't animating anything
>there is and they need a recap and a live action special (probably two) in the middle of the second cour to deal with issues
This show is fascinating. It's like a trainwreck but instead of over the top plot twists we get over the top production errors.
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>>160000533
At least the final battle will be awesome... right?
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>>160000670
Anon...
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>>159998807
I can understand why they might have one special at the start, like aldnoah. At the start both projects SEEMED like they might be ambitious before they actually aired and ended up underwhelming. But there's no justification for two specials in the second cour which are just seiyuu sitting in a room talking. I'm sure they will do this for the guys(+ Amamiya) next. With how bad the sales are this will be the final death blow.
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>>160000670
I don't think they feel confident about it.. I don't think they really want us to feel the way we do about the show. Marketing partly to blame for what's occuring. Episode 13 is a great springboard to get people up to speed but really episode 16 will be the one to determine how it will do at least in terms of interest for the final act
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>thought the special would be something cool if they were really going to do one after a recap
>it's a fucking seiyuu special
just fuck this show
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>Amazing premise
>Stellar character designs
>great cast
>great characters in general (with some exceptions like Soda)
>great character development but only for Mamika and Aliceteria, which proves that they can do it when they want to but some characters got nearly to no development during cour 1
>well written dialogues when there are some, but they're rare since for the most part we get monologue infodumps
>decent plot but moves at the slowest pace possible
The worst thing about the show is that they proved they can do things right. There are some really great moments and scenes and clever writing in this show but then you get slow moving plot and fucking infodumps. I want the believe that the final arc will be good, but knowing how they handled stuff so far I don't know what to expect.
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>>160001200
>I don't think they really want us to feel the way we do about the show
How do you think they want us to feel about the show?
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>>160001283
Not concerned in general? Not worried about production, sales or how well it's received? I'm talking as a fan of the show, however.
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>>160001445
>Troyca wants people to not care about the show
If that's what they wanted then they were successful.
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>>159998807
Good lord this has to be a joke
It's like everything that could possibly go wrong for this show has
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>>159998807
Production must be in meltdown mode if they're pulling a stunt like this only a few weeks after a recap.
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>t-the production is going smoothly guys, this recap was planned from the start haha
Why did Meteora lie.
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What even is seiyuu special?
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>>160001700
And then there is another one in two weeks.
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>>160001700
For the last time, you retard.
They had a story for 21 episodes but they have to fill a 25 ep air time.
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>>160001745
>Episode 16 is another talking non-action episode
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>>160001700
But we know that it'll be 22 episodes from the beginning, and the schedule of the recap and specials was announced during the first cour.
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>>160001805
That's why they are airing it two episodes after a recap?
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This show is basically dead anyway so it's not really surprising for them to pull a stunt like this.
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What's the deal with Selesia being advertised as main heroine when she ended up so irrelevant? Even her husbando isn't in the opening and drama with him is the only thing besides fighting that would give her any meaningful development. She's not any more important than any of the other creations plotwise.
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>>160001841
Yes, because they certainly aren't going to air them after the show is over and airing them around the end would be worse.
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>>160001836
Recap wasn't announced at all. Aoki said it will be an intermission at an interview with people who went to pre-sreening. The first time the word "recap" was ever mentioned was in an interview with Hiroe because they had to explain why they were taking a break.
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>>160001727
>He trusted Meteora
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>>160001876
Right. Making people drop the show in the middle is more important than airing specials after the show is over like every other show does. I forgot what the goal was.
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>>160001805
Why not fill them with something fun instead?
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>>160001813
Gotta save the budget after the show turned a confirmed flop. Wasting money in buying the Newtype polls didnt help.
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>>160001874
Meteora doesn't carry drama from her own world, unlike Selesia with charon. She's more of a heroine than meteora is, and it's obvious she'll be more relevant towards the endgame than her, since she is the close combat oriented one.
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>>159998807
What's the point of this, do they take their clothes off or something?
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>>160001805
This show should have never been given that many episodes. It's the snail pacing making it longer than it should be.
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>>160001951
Yes, that's the weird thing.

I don't think chibi specials would have been that expensive nor time consuming to produce.
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>>160001938
People can't drop a show in the middle if they already dropped it in the beginning
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>>160001992
A heroine who is only relevant at the end and only for combat is a trash heroine.
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>>160002031
fuck off with your reddit meme you fucking redditor
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>>160001992
>towards the endgame
We are at episode 15 out of 22 and we still have moeblob, Syo and Souta's donut steel who did fuck nothing and aren't relevant to Selesia in any way. What is this endgame, the final episode?
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>>160001992
But Hiroe is a that garbage's fag. No way Selesia is going to be more relevant than that garbage.
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>>160001874
>>160002053
>>160001992
Aliceteria is the real heroine of the show
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>>160001992
>endgame
Endgame is Altair, Souta/Souta's creation and Setsuna. Selesia isn't relevant there.
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>>160002076
Hiroe is a Selesiafag that's why he put het on the Newtype cover
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>>160002110
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>160002100
>appears once every 3-4 episodes
>mamika had to die to give her any relevance
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>>160002132
No, did you miss it when I posted Hiroe didn't have any problem picking his second favorite character (the garbage) from Newtype with Selesia on the cover?
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>>160000670
>yfw pic related is how the final battle goes, narrated by Meteora
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>>160002015
But then /a/ would be complaining that it's going too fast and that it needed more episodes instead.
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>>160002242
triggered
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>>160002172
>every 3-4 episodes
No,I think Alice has the most screentime among Altair-side creations.She was in ep2,4,6,9,10,12,15 and she had lots of scene focused on her.And she was relevant before poodle was killed,in my heart.
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Does Toyosaki Aki on PV counts as Altair on PV?
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>>160002634
She was also in ep 7, 8 and she is easily the best girl
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>>160002242
Is this that episode where it goes "Wow that fight was fucking amazing" and the only part of it you saw was in the preview? I remember being ass mad about that for days, imouto's wild ride was ok though.
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I dare you to name a more frustrating anime
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-ep1-
>You bastard!
>Yes. My master liked you too. Your Highness Selesia Upitiria. It seems you do not truly understand my power yet. Shall I show you the power of my Holopsicon? I would be much obliged if you could carve it into your body.
>This is....
>The Holopsicon is omnipotent.Everything flows, the power of eternal reincarnation. Dust to life. Life to ashes.Thus the world returns here once more.
>Such nonsense. Just because I lost the Vogelchevalier....
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>Your level of confusion was quite mild. I expected nothing less of you, Selesia Upitiria of "Elemental Symphony of Vogelchevalier". Impressive.
>Who are you?
>Would my name be the answer you're looking for?
>Answer me. Magician of the Avalon Brigade.
>Avalon Brigade? Oh, I see. The enemy forces you are fighting against in your world. That's enough. I am not affiliated with the Avalon Brigade. And the Avalon Brigade does not exist in this world. And this is the most important thing. This place is not your world. However, being transported to this world is truly a curious development.
>You....
>Your Highness Selesia. Do you want to know what happened to you?
>Of course.
>The person who transported you to this world is none other than myself. I summoned you and induced your manifestation. Welcome to the horrific world of the gods of pleasure.Come with me. It's for your own good. I shall explain later.
>I refuse. You're not someone I'd want to team up with.
>Why do you think so?
>I've never seen someone who laughs like that who I could trust.
>We are in need of a little dialogue now.
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>I wish you would stop causing me so much trouble, Your Highness Selesia. "If I win, then let me have my way with you." Is that what I should say? I despise such simple negotiations. But if you must insist on following the proper protocols, that is fine with me too. I can change my customs to suit you.
>You piss me off.
>Answer me. Where is this? Who are you?
>I told you already. This is the world of the gods. Your Highness Selesia.
>What nonsense.
>Nonsense? Do you think I'm telling a joke? This world is unmistakably the land of the gods. A hideous world in which dubious creators throng about. You will soon understand the significance of what I am saying. Revolution to your world. Punishment to the land of the gods.
>Is that you, Meteora? Have you still not found your creator? Never mind. Even though you and I have both been transported here we still lack sufficient strength and manpower. A riot is precisely what I wish for but the symphony would not sound harmonious without the correct headcount. A glorious song requires the presence of all the players. I shall pay you another visit, Your Highness Selesia. On behalf of this foul world I welcome you with all my heart.
-ep4-
>You said that if we capture the god who created my world, and make him revise it that my world would change.
>Your Creator...
>If this man is the root of all the struggle in this world then this man is necessary to restore good to the world. That is the power of a god, the "Creator." Therefore, I made this man revise my world with his pen. However, nothing happened. Furthermore, I could not return to my world. I must save my world from war. I must defeat the forces of Unterwelt and retake the Five Great Cities. I have no time to waste here! It is your fault! How dare you create such a hellish world and use it for entertainment. Are you not ashamed? I deeply regret that I was created by someone like you!
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>You can talk about justice all you want. Your morals are very direct.
Why don't you try enjoying this world a little more? I don't often meet people like you. Hey, "Military Uniform Princess."
>You over there, do not interfere. Drunken bastard!
>What did you just call me? Even my own daughter never talks to me like that.
>Your Highness Alicetaria. I have not told a lie. The world is unexpectedly sturdy. Procedures are needed in any world. Disturb it enough, make it crumble and make it crack. Once you do that, the powers of the Creator will finally become clear. Therefore, I want you to disturb the common sense in this world. Alicetaria. That is exactly what the world you must save is wishing for. You are going to save the world, right?
>Of course. I shall save the world.
>Very well. Well, then, I shall tell you several ways to disturb the world. I already told you the story of what happened to the "Creations" who left me. They were cowards, and couldn't accept the revolution. They did not want to bear their responsibilities towards their own worlds. That's enough. Whether or not they want to save their world is their own decision. However, if someone tried to interfere with the wishes of those who have obtained the key to the world through their own will in order to attain peace in the world what would you do?
>I wouldn't let anyone stand in the way of the will of my people.
>I was hoping that's what you would think. My role is to light the path and lead the way for people who don't know this world exists and have no choice but to fight. For every story created in this world there are people there at the mercy of the gods.
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>>160002889
But she isn't.
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-ep8-
>I've been thinking about this for a long time. Are you lying to me? Or are those other guys the ones who are lying to me? It's true that there are gods in this world? It's probably also true that the gods can change our worlds. But you hid something very important from me. We can't increase the strength of creation by disturbing the yoke of the world. Disturbing the world only increases the distortion in the worlds that collided. Right? Altair.
>You finally learned that name.
>They told me. From one of the people you call "the enemy." That's why I came here. If you're trying to destroy this world, then I must stop you. Because I'm Magical Slayer Mamika. Because I'm the main character of the story I love.
>Why didn't you keep quiet about joining their side?
>That would be dishonoring my friends. Altair, you're my dear friend too. That's why I want to save you. What you're doing is revenge, right? A promise with the god you loved, the god who loves you. But the revenge you're planning is so sad. This world connected you with your god. Trying to end this world out of revenge... An ending like that, it's so sad.
>I hate all of you. I hate your stories. I feel like throwing up when I think of the abhorrent gods that created you. Spitting out stupid stories. Everything in this world is vile. This world rejected my ally. All she wanted was a place to belong. Only a tiny humble wish. But the world humiliated her. They ignored her existence. They spat on her and laughed at her. They treated her like she didn't exist. Just like it was easy for them, doing this is easy for me too. I will destroy everything, including you. Destroy, and destroy, and destroy more, until everything in this world disappears. That is the reason I'm standing here today.
>Isn't that just a story she gave you? It's not to constrain you.
>What about you? Now that you've been released from the yoke of your story, why do you wear the mask of a hypocrite?
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>It's not like that. I used to be a character who was designed that way. But after coming to this world, I changed. I chose this life. I saw a lot of things after coming to this world. I met Alice and you. I decided to become Magical Slayer Mamika again.
>I am the same. She was abandoned by this world. I will never forgive the merciless story that gave her a role like that. I am not merely following a plot outline written by someone. This is something I decided myself.
>I heard what happened to that girl. But I'll show you that I can accept your sadness. We all carried pain and sadness with us in our old worlds. I'm sure I can accept your sadness too. I want to save your soul. And... Setsuna's soul.
>You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know what it feels like. You don't know what her sorrow feels like. Her wailing, her resentment... You don't know what it feels like. You don't know. You have no idea!
>Magical Splash Flare!
-ep10-
>Your destruction is so beautiful. Holopsicon. The Third Movement of the Cosmos. "Representation Exchange."(TL error) Flowers... are the best parting gift after all. Right, Selesia? Please allow me to make matters more expedient for the knight.
>K:That's the plan. Yes.
>M:Selesia!
>K:Stop! That's....
>M:Selesia!
>Fatty:Blood....
>I'm fine, so....
>Well then. The stage has been set.Knight...Behead her.Her death is the herald of the world's revolution. Blitz.
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>>160003148
I assumed one of them would be her since there are girls that should be more important than the rest.
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>The physical image is tearing apart at its seams.... Just as I thought. If I shake the pillar now... then I would be the one who is repelled by the world. So that's how it works.... Blitz, Alicetaria. The stars are not in alignment yet. This is enough for today. That was a good performance. When the time comes, we shall meet again.
>B:I'm off now.
-ep12-
>The knight released the creator.
>Is that so?
>What is she thinking? Making things more complicated*(there was an error here) for us... To avoid any complications, I should have finished her off back there.
>We were about to be thrown out from the world. Selesia's new powers were unexpected, even for me. We must not push too hard.
>I see. So, princess... We have a new friend. Who is he?
>Just now... I explained to him about this world and about our position.
>There's someone I have to look for. And there's a world I must save. Just like you.
>The world is still resisting destruction. Probably only two or three more characters will be able to appear. When everyone is here, our attack will begin.
-ep15-
>Blitz.
>What is it?
>You must have... noticed.
>I've noticed it.
>Then why are you following me?
>I just can't leave your fragility alone.
>Am I fragile?
>Yeah.
>You're so weak and fragile that you look like you'd collapse if anyone touched you. You're weak in a way that... someone like Alicetaria could never understand. If you don't throw away the fact that you're weak, you won't be able to save yourself or anyone else. But you were created to be someone who's weak, right from the start. You walk together with the weak, accept their weakness and give strength to the weak, if only for an instant. That's why you're strong. But in the end, you can't save anyone. And you don't want to save anyone anyway. Like a kingdom that was created just to be destroyed.
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>>160003184
3 girls*
Selesia, Meteora and Altair.
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>I'm impressed, ex-detective.
>When I see children with backgrounds like that, it makes me want to protect them. It defies logic.
>There is logic. I know that... it's related to your daughter. That's why... That's why... I think that you should not participate in the final battle. I am infinite. More powers are added to me every day. Powers that even I don't know about. So long as there are people in this world who continue to make stories about me, my powers will continue to grow. For example, this. These are my forces. The pilots are still hesitating, and those possessed by demons must have chosen their goals already. The knight will link up with the clown. I see. Looking at it this way, it's pretty interesting. Well, thanks to this power, I now know what that magician is trying to do.
>What are you going to do to counter it?
>I just told you, Blitz. I am infinite, and I am infallible. I think that they should be given a chance to realize how imprudent their strategy is. Crushing people who are unaware of their own stupidity... what is meaningful about that? It pains me to take actions without value. The meaning of my existence is at stake. There are only a few months left until the next battle, the final battle. If their plans succeed, then we will lose the opportunity to interfere in this world. Do not succumb to their opinions. Continue to hunt down the gods. This is something that's not in your story line. Do it for yourself.
>Sorry.
>I know about... your secret wish. You answered me. Thus I must answer you too.
>After the final battle, will I be able to see you again?
>If everything proceeds as planned, then we won't be able to see each other anymore. I pray that you walk down your path for the sake of your daughter. I shall pray to your daughter, not to the abominable gods in this world. Blitz...
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>>160003089
>>160003108
>>160003128
>>160003149
>>160003172
>>160003195
>>160003224
Every piece of dialogue I think Altair is in. It seems like she approached everyone with a different argument. Saving her world to Alicetaria, and (most probably)Mamika, punishing the land of gods to Selesia and Charon, The thing I don't understand is what has Blitz noticed when they are already talking about wold destruction when they had met earlier?
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>>160003216
*Selesia, Meteora, and Alicetaria.
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>>160003037
i can't honestly
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>>160000670
If the miracle great emperor plan comes true, then yes.
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>>160002250

i don't care about what some retard that needs the same plot point explained five times thinks
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They moved the animated sp.. special to to the other week, right?
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>>160003516
Next special will be 90 minutes of "Sleeping with Aoki".
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>>159999445
2nd season announced with real popular anime and manga. Who would you choose to replace all of the characters? Must be similar personality and motives.
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>>159998661
I feel bad for the production team, it's obvious they wanted it to be a huge hit but they fucked up really hard
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The elusive beach episode.

I think the disappointment of the PV is worse than the lack of what could've been.
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>>160003695
>we could have a sol filler episode like the firs ED instead of this
Fuck recreators
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>>159998661
This show is so fucking boring and bad. But, I come back for Yuuya.
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Can Hollywood save this by any chance?
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>>160003037
I would say Arc-V, but it would be a little unfair since Arc-V was a long runner and it was known that it would shit the bed at some point
what's frustating about this show is the absurd potential it has to be a legit classic and there were several ways to use this premise and still work
>comedy that breaks the 4th wall a couple times per episode
>full "3deep5u" with several characters having existential crisis (touched, then completely glossed over)
>dumb action: the anime [directed by Michael Bay]
But instead we have complete episodes spent in just one room and the ideas and aspects are presented in the driest way possible, i honestly don't know what Hiroe was thinking
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>>160003908
God no.
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>>160003809
Why we never got this? We only got glimpses of it in ep2 but only for Selesia and Meteora but it could be fun with other creations too.
The premise gives you so much stuff to work with and instead we get infodumps in the room
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>>160003920
We just can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. There's great setup with every player, for the shitstorm to come (Alice, Meteora, Magane, Blitz, Charon, Hikayu and even Syo) but damn 4 weeks for another episode it's like an unannounced split-cour.
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>>160003920
Arc-V still shat the bed so hard that it went beyond expectations to the point of taking the top 20 of the worst rated episodes on niconico
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>>160003037
Glassip, stayed bacause visuals looked amazing and PA just did Nagi. Nothing ever happened on that shitshow.
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>>160003969
Even if the episode only focused on Selesia, Meteora living an ordinary life, and new girl or whatever I would want to watch it, instead I'm not really interested about interviews or recaps.

Don't know how the Japanese audience feels about this.
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>>159999040
>I'm just going to assume this is some kind of sick joke Aniplex is playing on us, they can't be that incompetent
There is a reason 2 cour shows are almost never back to back these days. The entire industry struggles to handle a 2 cour schedule. There are some claims that there is a shortage of animators because there are more job openings than ever but the pay still sucks. It is a real problem now with lack of new recruits. And who could blame them?
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>>160003974
yeah, but spending over 60% of the series in just the set up is still terrible, 6 good episodes out of 22 does not make a show good
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This series really feels like a chore to follow, even A/Z had its charms wherein you'd like to see how Inaho gets out of the situation and what stupid pseudoscience will he use.
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>>160003920
ARC-V was the biggest piece of garbage ever written. I can't believe I watched it until the end, but I don't regret it either.
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>>160004190
i still like it, i guess i have shit taste, but it annoys me to know it could have been more
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>>160004233
all this because Souta isn't as good an MC as Inaho and Slaine are.
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>>160003037
止まるんじゃねぇぞ...
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>>160004267
Souta isn't the problem. The anime barely focus on him. If he were a good character it would've be even worse because then they would've been giving no attention to yet another interesting character.
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A
FUCKING
SEIYUU
SPECIAL
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>>160004435
With Minase Inori as the host!
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>>160004233
You're not supposed to start hating it after episode 15 happened. Altair is awesome, the rest of the cast is properly fleshed out except for the ones they are obviously trying to give out as little as they get, including a character that has been teased once three episodes ago. "A glorious song requires the presence of all the players." and everyone is finding their place.

But the special is only dragging out the wait. Maybe next one will not be such a disappointment, since we already know the chances of seiyuus fucking around for 20 minutes are sky high and episode 16 might just leave with it's own momentum that will make waiting for episode 17 more enjoyable than it is right now.
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>>160004505
no one can honestly think this right
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>>160004505
It's just Souta's hard counter for Altair.

>it's fucking mamikami.
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>>160004521
I honestly do. I'm already over this special. I really liked episode 15 but it left nothing to guess for episode 16.
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>>160004557
episode 15 was nothing special it was only just okay
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>>160004567
Episode 15 was great. It was fast and dynamic, it involved the whole of the cast, gave altair and blitz their proper time, brought forth a really interesting idea through hikayu and it had buckteeth on top of everything.
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>>160004547
Soda might actually make himself god, God of Ink and all that.
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>>159998807
>Remember the first RE:Creators threads
>Full of hope and excitement over the characters and the world its building.
>strong 1st episode and good pacing.
>Rei Hiroe

>Now
>infodumps, missed potential and horrible pacing

Where did it all go so wrong?
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>>159999231
She gets Kefka'd by the Shark and is forced to become a good guy as Shark is going to use holopsicon to shitppst where no shitposter has gone before.

Make everything as bad Twilight and watch the rage.

Here is where we will see dere Hime finally.
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>>160004917
Terrible pacing, Meteora and infodumps
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>>160004917
Two episodes of flashback and character moments, a recap and getting back to two establishing episodes with no end in sight to them and the seiyuu special and the prospects of another in two weeks is getting me close to a breaking point. But I must endure to tell the tale since it' gonna be fucking awesome when it unfolds
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>>160005059
The fact that they've been pushing the idea that Souta will end up saving the day doesn't help at all.
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>>160005059
>Two episodes of flashback and character moments, a recap and getting back to two establishing episodes with no end in sight to them and the seiyuu special and the prospects of another in two weeks is getting me close to a breaking point.
And to think, they dared to waste time organising a funeral.
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>>160005085
Soda is one of the weakest links of this show. As an audience surrogate, they failed horribly because of him being so shit.

He is so shit everything bad that happens in the show is his fault.

Mamika being RIP in pepperoni.
Getting team creator in danger because of his refusal to give out information.
Setsuna an heroing because he didn't give her the dick.

Soda a shit.
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>>160004639
At this point, they should just make a slice of life aanine featuring Saber and Madoka living as hobos.
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Aoki is fired and Aniplex is looking for a new director to save the show. Who should it be?
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>>160005287
Nagai
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>>160005287
Urobuchi himself.

Thunderbolt Fantasy was amazing.
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>>160005212
He's okay but doesn't deserve to be so special. The show absolutely cannot play the fight straight with him asspulling in the end if it wants to be any fulfilling..
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>>160005317
Nagai would bring Mamika back and have the rest of the show be SoL with Alice, with the last episode being the two of them effortlessly kicking the shit out of Altair.
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>>160005371
>Implying he wouldn't let Altair Holophusicon everyone
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>>160005403
It really depends on which girl he likes the most. He would basically give her the Meteora treatment and have her be the spotlight in every scene.
Pray that it's not actually Meteora because then the show would just stay the same.
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>>160005287
>fired from his own studio
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>>159999376
I think that Aoki broke.

>>160001700
It was announced before the anime started airing that there would be 3 specials. First one was a week before episode 1.

>>160004190
I had more fun with how ridiculous and over the top Aldnoah was, but Inaho dragged the show down.
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Find the worst possible name for the next special
>That will get our hopes up until wednesday
>Only to crash it down with seiyuu shit in the PV
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>>160005508
I hope he will kill himself.
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>>160005601
Mean.
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>>160004488

i want to fuck sexy meteora while normal meteora has to watch
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>>160005616
When someone fucks up he is supposed to commit sudoku. I just respect jap traditions.
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https://twitter.com/recreators_tv/status/887602448205991938
本日発売の「CUT」にてRe:CREATORSの特集記事が掲載されています。あおきえい監督・音楽 澤野弘之さんのインタビューに、メテオラ役の水瀬いのりさんのインタビューと撮り下ろし写真を掲載!
お三方とも、とても興味深いお話しをしていただきました。

What magazine is this
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>>160005626
I want to fuck normal meteora while sexy meteora has to watch
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>>160005667
It says "CUT" right there.
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>>160005667
>CUT
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I really love how animated and expression-filled Magane is.

Anyone else feel this way?

It feels like she's the favorite of the animators to throw around on screen.
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>>160005732
>not HM01
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>>160005747
Animators love over the top expressions and characters that make them, in some anime I've seen in interviews that animators name the silly characters as their favorites because they are fun to draw.
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>>160005667
I kinda want to see what the hack has to say about this special shit.
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>>160005794
And that any QUALITY would appear intentional.
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>>159998661
>no new episode this weekend
>this wasn't planned from the beginning
Why did Meteora lie to us?
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>>160006166
>this wasn't planned from the beginning
It literally was, we knew about the specials 2 months ago already. I told people they'd be live action rather than OVAs, but the scheduling was too stupid to believe it.
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>>160006200
So we'll only have 20 episodes of actual plot?
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>>160006227
21
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>>160006251
22 episodes - 2 specials = 20
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>>160006268
24 episodes. 2 specials and a numbered recap.
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>>160006290
So we're still due another special? Or did I miss one?
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>>160006268
Specials don't count as numbered episodes
I really hope 17-22 will be good but my optimism is fading
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>>160006327
Another the week after 16
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>>160006351
They really wanted to kill any momentum this show might have started, huh. Especially after episode 15 which was actually pretty good.
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>>160006337
>>160006351
Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering why the numbered episode count was officially listed as 22.
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>>160006376
The show will destroy our anuses with action next episode and leave time for everyone to catch up the week after, but this comes from someone who expected a beach episode so take it as a grain of salt.
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>>160005508
Episode 13 was a special as well, what else would you even call it? That's 4 specials in a 25 episodes timeslot. 3 of them are spread over the first half of the second cour for some retarded reason. Are they necessary in some way? Episode 13 might have been, as an actual intermission between cours and a breather for the staff and at least it was fucking animated. But what the hell are these live action specials? How is any of this related to the show? Is this a Yabai spin-off? If I wanted a recording of Minase Inori radio show I would go and watch it. I don't even think that they are in production hell because they started animating early and there were no indications that they had any problems. Shit, some of the episodes in this have less key frames than low budget 00s shows and even those frames are low quality with potato heads, jagged hair and baloon hands. This must be a bad joke, I don't want to believe that somebody can be so fucking bad at their job and still be allowed to do it.
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>>160005508
>>160006351
>First one was a week before episode 1.
>Another the week after 16
Considering we have 1 of the 2 specials this week, which is it anons?
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>>160006721
There are 3 specials without the recap.
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>>160006673
>Episode 13 was a special as well
It was a numbered special though, unlike the other two.
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>>160006744
So 25 episodes total?
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>>160006750
It wasn't in the script and most of it was just a recap with funny narration. The fact that it was a numbered episode and one of the better ones speaks for itself though.

>>160006775
Yes.
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>>160006775
25, timeslots? first special was before the first episode
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>>160000533
>a femdom scene by a freelance guy
I do not remember this.
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>creators in the anime debating over authentic plot and character interactions
>Real life anime industry shits out shows like smartphone isekai
>Show about creators creating top anime has horrendous pacing and perma info dumps
Really gets the noggin jogging.
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>>160006898
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>>160007059
Best thing in the entire year
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People talk about how this special program is a bad decision but japs like seiyuu in this show more than the show itself.
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>>160007876
Fuck Japs and their shit tastes
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>>159999231
>>160003108
>Even though you and I have both been transported here we still lack sufficient strength and manpower.
>we still lack sufficient strength
>>160003224
>I just told you, Blitz. I am infinite, and I am infallible.
My bets on her bullshitting Blitz, considering how she bides her time.
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>>160008015
>>160007876
JUST
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>>160007059
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Meteroa is Cute! CUTE!
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I enjoy this show because I don't take it seriously.
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>>160009185
Cuteora
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>>160009185
I wish there was more cute Meteora and less infodumping Meteora.
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>>160000670
You'll get Sota turning into EMIYA for two minutes and you will be happy with it.
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>>160009208
But it's not like there's much sillyness outside of the recap episode. What's left if you don't take it seriously?
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>>160009225
Metewhorea
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>>160009289
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>>160009309
Metchinchin is cute
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>>160009255
I will naht
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NEXT SPECIAL WILL BE A BEACH EPISODE
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I'll keep watching this show just because my beloved wife Aliceteria is in it
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>>160009567
I wanna see the Shark in water, preferably wearing a swimsuit
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>>160009908
I guess I'll watch it for Altair.. Not like I enjoy the show or anything.
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RIP this show.
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>>160007876
That nips care more about the seiyuu than the flopping show is a no brainer, but they still aren't buying it.
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>>160011558
What does it have to do with anything? It's not like they would start buying it if the special was a beach episode.
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>>160001951
for true anime fans, being able to watch cute seiyuus talk is enough
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>>160011680
I don't care about 3D women though, no matter how "cute" people claim they are.
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>>160009249
I want snarky Meteora.
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>>160011669
Why would someone claim the seiyuu special is a good decision then? Claiming nips like the seiyuu more than the show therefore it's a good decision implies there is some benefit to it happening. I'm sure fanservice would sell more than the garbage airing on saturday anyway.
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>>160004505
>Altair is awesome, the rest of the cast is properly fleshed out
Hahaha
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>>160011286
>>160011472
>>160012325
Just make a beach episode Aoki ffs
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I just watched the most recent episode. It was really good. I'm not happy to hear about this bullshit with the talking props special
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>>159998661
>>159998807
The recap was fun but I'm just gonna skip this. Seeing the Asian voice actors ruins my anime immersion.
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>Still no fanart of Blitz and Altair.
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>>160003037
Kiznaiver, but least Okada's the only blame factor in it compared to this.
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>>160015224
Blitz screwing Hime is the only true and acceptable doujin pairing.
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>>160016114
I meant cute father daughter fanart. You don't fuck your surrogate daughter.
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>>160016216
That's not what doujins told me.
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>>160016299
the doujins lied to you, you only fuck your real daughteru, not a surrogate
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>>160015540
Was Kiznaiver frustrating? It wasn't as blueballing as this anime to me.
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At least we have 2 mangos.

I wonder how the tie-in is going to handle Meteora's infodumps
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>>160011286
it hurts me to know we won't get anything fron this ship
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>>160017893
>please watch the anime for more extensive explanations
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>>160016553
Too many faceless old men has shown that dicking your surrogates are a-ok.
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Homopsicon
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Homoeroa
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>>160019064
FUCK YOU MAGICALGIRL
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>>160017893
book like pages with a Meteora watermark as background
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>>159998807
Nice, I really liked the Kiznaiver one so hopefully this one is just as good.
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>>160019064
Is there a Gachimuchi version of the first OP yet?
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MAGANE WITH AN AK74
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This show was uninteresting enough as it was. As someone who never even found the premise interesting and hoped that the actual writing would uplift it, I couldn't be more disappointed.
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>>160019700
AK-47'S FOR EVERYONE
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>>160020776
Infinite ak-47.
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Looks like the government gonna get a doujin as well lol
>>https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/detail.php?product_id=233033
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>>160021068
>gubment lady gets a doujin before Altair

fucking hell
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>>160021164
Altair is pure. Government team are whoring themselves for public acceptance.
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>>160021278
why did she suddenly reminded me of Hotaru?
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>>160005107
Isn't it ironic trainwreck got a fucking funeral.
Does no one in Japan see this as ironic?
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>>160021489

>>159999520
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>>160021426
Because her clothes reminds you of a train?
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>>160021717
Actually, misremembered the name. Thought you were talking about shinkansen girl from non non biyori.
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>>160021880
Why is Selesia using such bad language in front of a kid?
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>>160021730
>>160021880

m8 if the anime didn't swear then I don't see how it would be appropiate here
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Is this even worth watching?
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>>160022118
fuck off
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BAHAHAHAHA
I'm glad I dropped it on episode 12.
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>>160021960
>>160022081
On page 18 there is literally a "bitch"
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>>160022144
Some of the best parts were in episode 13 and 15 though.
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>>160022144
you missed the best episode by one
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>>160022426
Don't care, it was hard enough to force myself to watch 12 episodes. There's no way I'm giving this another try but at least browsing the catalog today made me feel safe in this decision.

Now excuse me, I'll just lurk and enjoy the disaster unfold on the threads.
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>>160022548
People are literally complaining that they aren't getting more of the show though. It's a forced pause instead of people dropping.
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>>160005320
Urobuchi can't save a shitty series any more than a studio can make a not shitty series out of a script he abandoned or just wrote the first few episodes for. If he's on board from beginning to end you can let your enthusiasm go a little, otherwise it's guaranteed lousy.
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>>160005287
David lynch
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Ded thread
Ded anime
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>time witht the created girls

So no Sora?
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Which is better: OP1 or OP2?
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>>160024309
Inori, Komatsu and Hikasa Youko.
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>>160025176
OP 2 has better visuals and more Altair, OP 1 has better song.
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>>160003660
They fucked up extremely hard and now they have to get out of it while saving face (to the extent that is even possible). This is a textbook example of someone trying to manufacture a hit out of nowhere-- there was no chance of it succeeding. The show is simply over-designed and even though so much of it has been in conversations-- there is not even any memorable dialog. There is not a single line from this entire series that I would want to quote. There is not a moment in this series that is truly gripping and compelling. It lacks authenticity in a way that I have not seen outside of Isekai and the authors assume us to have feelings we do not have for their creations (because they have not earned our feelings).

It is not even a bad concept, in fact, the whole idea is actually decent and could have been interesting. But the pacing, presentation, and lack of connection to the characters is just killing it. Whenever the show regains its momentum (recap episode) it then immediately throws it away. It spends so much time on unnecessary exposition and contrived meaningless skirmishes that it has yet to produce any real substance.

So, I do not feel bad for the production team. This whole series is a failed cash-grab and they deserve to walk away with an empty bag. Let it be a reminder that creating something just for money without a good vision-- it's just not going to work.
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Anon, is that better?

I just can not catch the difference between «you bastard» (amazon) and «fuck you» (my version).
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>>160025847

fuck you isn't PG 13
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>>160025977
But «bastard» is PG 13?
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>>160025559
I really liked the base concepts and backgrounds of the characters, they seemed to promise fun ways to clash and bounce off one another but they just almost completely ignored that aspect in favor of 2meta4u and boring logistics.
It wouldn't have been hard to endear people to them, just have some SoL non-eating scenes, actually unique fighting styles (that's asking too much, I know) and have them explore the world and ask some fucking existential questions (it doesn't have to be pretentious, they should come naturally considering the premise).
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>>160022144
See you next week.
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>>160025226
They couldn't even get Toyosaki nor Sakamoto for this?
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>>159998661
Neat??
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>>160022144
I drop it every week, get on my level.
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9 days left for the next episod WHY AOKI WHAT WERE YOU THINKING
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>>160025559
>>160026066
Back around episode 5 or so I heard that at one point the series was meant to use actual popular characters, but the writers chose to create their own to avoid too many power level issues.

If that was ever true, then it feels like they never changed the story's pacing to adjust for the change. The creations might come from their own series, but we know effectively nothing about them and they come across as blank slates no one's writing on. It almost feels like the writers are taking it for granted that the audience is already very familiar with the characters and thus feel like they don't have to write much for them when the opposite is true.
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>>160029328
They said the characters were written to be walking cliches at the beginning so you only needed to have an idea what kind of characters they were amalgamated from or have some opinion on their genres ot expect how they would act.

But I take fault with the fact that they are not giving enough content for us. It's cheap marketing. For example the Newtype stats are still not released on the internet. The characters abilities are still not listed, but we're supposed to know what they are capable of since their source materials must be out there in their source world. They could've released a lot more cheap content that would help market the product they have. Instead of releasing the adapted story daily, they could've released short stories weekly to give us an idea about all of the cast and maybe their fighting styles or they could tie the episodes and how the characters acted with their source material. We haven't had both mechas fight for example. Releasing a short story on how either mech fought a specific enemy would help flesh it out and give people who are more invested something to expect for when the time came for the ultimate battle.
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>>160029874
pic very much related, I'm really wondering why they are not showing it when it implies that Aliceteria and Altair are comparable in terms of attack and defence, in my mind meaning that the fight they'll have has the higher chance to turn into a complete slugfest. Magane is also given an attack stat comparable to Selesia but she hasn't demonstrated the said potential at all other than killing an unsuspecting old man and playing around the others. Which is stupid, since the show is not even bothering to tell us that her book is already out there and the characters know more about her than we do.
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>>160030602
I doubt those stats take Holopsicon into account.
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>>160029874
>they could tie the episodes and how the characters acted with their source material.
That scene where Yuya said he and Rui were changing from their character settings comes to mind, we actually have no fucking idea about what he meant specifically since nothing tangible was shown onscreen (and Rui had barely just been introduced)
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>>160030602
The powers in their show are irrelevant, since they are as strong as people believe them to be, which changes throughout the series and throughout the elimination chamber. Altair in special is stronger now than she was at that point.

>>160030906
Considering gigas machina isn't factored, it probably doesn't. Or it does, it doesn't really matter since you can't go higher than max. Altair probably just lost an intelligence point for being an immature kid.
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>>160030906
>Even though you and I have both been transported here we still lack sufficient strength and manpower.
>The physical image is tearing apart at its seams.... Just as I thought. If I shake the pillar now... then I would be the one who is repelled by the world. So that's how it works...
>We were about to be thrown out from the world. Selesia's new powers were unexpected, even for me. We must not push too hard.
>I am infinite, and I am infallible. I think that they should be given a chance to realize how imprudent their strategy is. Crushing people who are unaware of their own stupidity... what is meaningful about that?
She's lying to Blitz or some news made her extremely confident compared to how she felt around episode 12.
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>>160031260
Well she also talked about how she's gaining new powers all the time like that clairvoyance ability or whatever it was.
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So who is to blame here for how all of this turned out?

Whose head is going to roll?
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I'm going to miss her once the show is over; however I will not miss the show
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>>160031173
>The powers in their show are irrelevant, since they are as strong as people believe them to be, which changes throughout the series and throughout the elimination chamber.
I think this is okay, but there will be a moment when the characters will freeze since they will be too busy fighting for twitter to matter

>>160031036
Just like I said, the characters ride on cliches. Rui wouldn't get into the robot, Yuuya started out on the edgy side. Now one is chasing after JC's and the other is chasing after ice cream and Meteora.
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Would mommy sex with Selesia save this show?
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>>160031397
Also the world pillar is more unstable now so holopsiconing wouldn't be as restrictive.
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>>160031505
How about mommy sex with Alice?
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>>160031397
I don't think the clairvoyance was a new ability of hers.
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>>160031713
How about daughteru hug with Altair.
>>160031761
She said it was though.
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>>160031260
>The time isn't right
>The time is actually right but I'll just wait to show them the power of OC
>>160031952
She only demonstrated it as a power she got from the stories, not something as brand-new
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>tfw no beach episode
>tfw no Alice in swimsuit
>tfw no Alice in modern clothing ever
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Metchin is for __________
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>>160032127
>tfw no Magane dragging the cast down into the briny deep
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>>160032345
Yuya
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Blitz will protect Altair's smile.
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> Casts Adamantium toroid
> Literally bludgeons everyone to death
OC > all.
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>>160030602
>she hasn't demonstrated the said potential at all

She fought Yuya and was able to keep up with him.
She has to focus mainly on dodging because she has shit DEF
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>>160021730
What did she say in the raw?

>>160021880
>>160025847
If she's saying something like "temee" or "kisama", then I think Amazon translation is actually good.
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>>160031476
Is this an uso no uso?
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>>160031476
Shark along with Hime deserve a better show.
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>>160032345
me
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>>160025176
First opening set the mood. Lyrics are even better than the second one.
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>recap
>no ep again
Just abort this shit. It's 80% infodump episodes anyway.
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>another recap episode

Oh wow

This show is powerfully fucking retarded
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>>160035351
but it's not a recap you retard
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>>160034550
>>160035351
>ctrl+f recap
>25 results
Episode 13 was the only recap episode, you retards. I think everyone's overreacting to the fact that we're having long breaks at the moment, which is a good thing because there's enough room to plan what will happen in the last few episodes.
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>All creations have great designs
>Meteora will be the only one to get a fig because the show is flopping
sad, I really wanted Alice-chan fig
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>>160036220
>tfw we will never see Alice fig in her original design
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This show had a ton of potential, but it wastes all of it's time explaining stuff no one cares about. We've literally had half an episode where we listen to the creators argue about plot progression of the trap story that they purposely don't want us to know about so they can (I presume, more like hope) animate it at some point.

Do Something With These People Already.

>Show me Backstories. So far the only ones we got is parts of Blitz and Alice. I know nothing or next to nothing about the rest of the characters lives in their old world.
>Show me the characters adapting to the world besides wearing different clothes. Anything would work at this point. Comiket visit, Them reading their Manga/Anime/Games, ETC.
>Show them saving people from modern day issues and the like because they're heroes and that's what they do instead of having these heroes sit around a gov't office moping and infodumping.
>Show them Having fun! The first credits scene had them in pictures at a amusement park and a festival. Why can't we see that animated?
>At this point, show them fighting for god sake! Altair has had more screen time sitting on a couch then actually doing anything.
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>>160036333
good, i prefer her pony tail
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>>160036333
Thats a man
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>>160033401
Potential to attack.
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Maybe tomorrow we'll have something from the next episode.
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>>160036808
no
PV until tuesday and then twitter images
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I fucking hate this series. Every episode is a slog and the threads are just kinda fun. I don't know how I endured 15 weeks of this, I dont know how I'll endure another 10. This isn't even fun in the typical trainwreck kinda way. Help me, /a/, I want to drop this show so bad, there's not one thing I enjoy in it, but I just can't. I know I'll be here this saturday, and the following one, and the one after, and I won't enjoy them, not one bit. Why can't I drop this piece of garbage, /a/?
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>>160037031
Because we all hate ourselves and just so happened that Aoki hates us too
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>>160037031
I'm just here for Himegimi
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>>160003908
would make it worse than it already is
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>recap episode
>regular episode again
>now a special
JUST
FUCK
MY
PACING
UP
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>>160037543
>After the second special we're gonna need another recap because it's been 3 weeks and people forgot what the hell happened
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>>160029874
>They said the characters were written to be walking cliches at the beginning so you only needed to have an idea what kind of characters they were amalgamated from or have some opinion on their genres ot expect how they would act.

That's terrible for a story. While they might be similar to basic archetypes, an archetype alone is still very shallow and unfulfilling. We want to know who these actual people are and to have reasons to care about them. Without those, we have a cast in which the large majority are just literal props.

>>160031173
>The powers in their show are irrelevant, since they are as strong as people believe them to be, which changes throughout the series and throughout the elimination chamber. Altair in special is stronger now than she was at that point.

It provides some kind of baseline at least, and only Altair seems to consistently get a wide range of power from it. Also, the point of the chamber is more to restrict Altair's power than to really strengthen anyone else.

>>160031397
In this episode she said that she has some powers that she doesn't even know about. If true, wouldn't that go against what we've been told about her effectively being an automatic filter when it came to drawbacks? Couldn't she be written to have certain weaknesses or flaws after all? Does this mean that the official answer is that the protagonists are just stupid and haven't bothered to try anything in this entire series?
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>>160037737
Holopsicon abilities are activated though and Altair can use the abilities without having to be exactly like she was in fan content. No chibi Altair required to use the clone ability.
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>>160035957
I think the first guy only had problems with dragging explicit explanation and government's shenanigans. Which is about 80% of what we got so far.
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>>160038042
But if she doesn't know the powers, how could she even activate them, and if there's a drawback involved with a power (or something is an outright drawback), how could she tell? It doesn't seem like she's been testing them out while sitting on her couch, and just because she doesn't have to transform into the source material state doesn't mean she's automatically immune to any effects from the power/drawback.
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>>160038630
It's possible that she meant that she doesn't know what sort of powers she might be receiving in the future but she knows every power that she current has. Or maybe she meant that she doesn't know all the different ways she can use her current powers. Maybe someone made a video of her playing chess with a magic circle and she just found out that she could use that ability to spy on people. She doesn't have to take every popular thing that's out there and use it. She doesn't even have to use the useless parts of a video that has useful abilities. She gets to choose what to use so she won't use the stuff that has an obvious drawback. As far as we know she would just use it without the drawback. We don't know how she finds out about her powers so we can only assume she either tests them out off screen, watches her videos off screen or she just gains the knowledge automatically like a memory.
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>>160037202
This looks like a certain reaction image.
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>>160039453
She wasn't speaking in a way to suggest that she was referring to more powers that didn't exist yet; she was talking about the ones she already had. She also specified that she didn't know about them period. If one is a passive ability, it could affect her long before she figured it out.

While she doesn't have to use a video wholesale, parts of it might still apply to her if she calls upon a power from it and if the drawback is a natural or otherwise innate part of said power.

As it stands, it seems like trying to write in a weakness of some sort would still be very plausible, and if she's not aware of the powers she has then fighting her outright has been much more viable all along.

The series is suffering on this front because we don't know how she learns of her powers at all. It's a pointless "mystery" and just majorly wasted potential. If these weaknesses do indeed exist, then a huge chunk of the show has just been the protagonists screwing themselves over by not trying anything and instead just sitting around listening to baseless exposition, which makes for a horrible series overall.
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What is this? Actual discussion in a whining thread?
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>>160036895
Website has new stuff on Fridays when they release material about the last episode
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>>160037737
>That's terrible for a story. While they might be similar to basic archetypes, an archetype alone is still very shallow and unfulfilling. We want to know who these actual people are and to have reasons to care about them. Without those, we have a cast in which the large majority are just literal props.

It doesn't become a terrible idea because I pointed out the fact. It works well and the characters are something on their own here just like any other series.
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>>160037031
A thin line between love and hate
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>>160040115
While it isn't necessarily a terrible idea, it typically isn't a good one by any means, and in the case of this show the cast is largely undeveloped and we know nothing about them both in their series and in the real world from their experiences. The story expects us to care about these people who haven't been fleshed out at all, and the few who do get a lot of time aren't developing or otherwise being compelling. Almost no one is involved in doing something either, and even the villain largely sits around doing nothing, even announcing that acting as such is going to be her plan for months.

Heck, if she's expecting to play along with the big anime crossover, then that means she has little to no intention of taking action until the presumed end of the series. It'll take a "minion" she isn't paying attention to lashing out at the world to make anything happen in the series. This story already has too much downtime and exposition, and now doing nothing and talking in circles might be the rest of the plot until the months-away finale. If the time's spent basically exploring everyone's backstories in detail and giving them specific episodes, then at least something will actually happen at last, but it should have begun at least ten episodes ago and might run out of time to make anything important happen in the present.
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>>160039954
But the series is always about people not knowing what they are doing, other than having an idea over the general picture. It took them two weeks before getting to their senses and trying out impression.

Firstly, there is a single fact about Altair: She's a powerlevel wizard.

Everything else is secondary. If people don't agree if a change or an idea affects him positively on the field it won't get accepted.

A negative effect is like saying, Saitama's every punch takes a year off of his life. Nobody will accept that, especially if Saitama was a touhou and wasn't even related to his author. Popular ideas are the ones without drawbacks.

Secondly you can't observe the weakness you are talking about until she appears again for a fight. She hides in a cathedral probably in a border world biding her time for a final attack. Assume you wasted time "popularizing" an idea with a drawback, how do you know she is affected at all?

Besides that it will contradict with the plot they are doing for the Border World Colliseum. They will end up fighting her to save the world in the in-universe show's plot. Everyone "knows" she is flawless. The best thing they can do with her is to add her to a story so at least some facts about her can be established for a wider audience, and that's what they are exactly doing.
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>>160040408
I disagree with you on every front and I belive you are nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking, or probably even parroting someone else's opinions about the show. Your problem with this show is that it's not an adaptation so you don't know the full aspects of the characters action and their characterization. The fact that you find the reason why you don't know Altair is waiting as a flaw is a problem in your opinion in itself. Every person in in every story is a walking "cliche" with some character traits attached to them. We've had content where the characters intereact and find agency for their own last 14 episodes( if you don't count 13) and we'll continue getting so for the next seven weeks.
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>>160040696
Besides that we still don't know why she has so easily discarded Mamika or has done anything she has so far. We don't know what anyone involved will end up doing when the time comes, except for team red, then still you have characters like hikayu who doesn't have a powercap and little initiative in the name of allegiance so the story can literally go anywhere with her, and like her the two other characters, namely charon and Syo.
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>>160040462
Who agrees that it won't affect her? With how little's been tried in this series they might Peter Pan her to death with the power of believing that she'd get nerfed or beaten. Nothing has been tried or established, just automatically taken for granted and effectively uncontested. Plus, there are anime powers that have drawbacks all the time, and if this is a minor OC whose creator is dead then it should be easier than ever to start adding weaknesses with stories. You don't need a humongous crossover to begin testing that out.

As for observing the idea, go try to locate and fight her. Don't just sit around hoping she'll show up eventually. The protagonists seem to be overly reactive and not proactive enough. Finally, the Border World Colosseum plan is an extreme measure being used as the first resort when it should honestly be the last. They haven't tested anything, are giving Altair months to become stronger and/or learn all her powers, and she'll naturally get additional exposure leading up to this event, thus raising her power level even higher. What's more, we don't even know if the creators are trying to copyright her character, so if the populace in any way sees a divide between "actual character" and "crossover villain" Altair the acceptance plan can still fail. For all the exposition and sitting around in this series, crucial things are being completely ignored as the premise wastes away. Everything about the Colosseum plan at this point makes it look like a stupid idea through and through. In fact, because they haven't tested anything they have no way of knowing if they can restrict her or if she'll just blitz straight through the story cage and kill everyone. Heck, speaking of limiters, the real world already places one on her by threatening to kick her out of it. The actual opportunity is ignored in favor of hoping they can invent one.

>>160040696
My opinion is my own. I'm not asking to know everything, I'm asking to know anything about them.
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>>159998807
>we've known about this for months
>people still feel the need to act retarded
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>>160041885
we knew that it was a special, not that it was seiyuu shit
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>>160041885
There was hope that they are not that stupid, but we were wrong
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>>160041778
>As for observing the idea, go try to locate and fight her. Don't just sit around hoping she'll show up eventually.
We don't know what triggers the great D. If the characters' deaths are enough then locating her also means getting ambushed. The JSDF is already aware of her and react according to the crisis code.
>They haven't tested anything, are giving Altair months to become stronger **and/or learn all her powers**, and she'll naturally get additional exposure leading up to this event, thus raising her power level even higher.
This is information we are given, not government. The government side are actively getting powerups and they have 5 characters and a chance to achieve a literal god or a planet buster in Hikayu to work with. They know Altair's already at the limit of power creep, so they'll push themselves to the limits of power creep within their own plot.
> What's more, we don't even know if the creators are trying to copyright her character, so if the populace in any way sees a divide between "actual character" and "crossover villain" Altair the acceptance plan can still fail.
That goes against the Border World Colliseum plot. If the plot for the show doesn't work then they lose the only chance to beat her without endangering the earth.
>Heck, speaking of limiters, the real world already places one on her by threatening to kick her out of it. The actual opportunity is ignored in favor of hoping they can invent one.
The real world already faces complete destruction if it fails to correct the disturbance she has caused, it's not worth to endanger the whole world population when they can go their own route.
>My opinion is my own. I'm not asking to know everything, I'm asking to know anything about them.
Better start reading between the lines.
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>>160042434
>>160042510
Why are you posting the same thing twice?
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>>160042510
If no one knows what triggers the great destruction, then why not try to figure that out first? For all they know their own super crossover will cause the apocalypse. Hikayu could even cause it by getting overpowered through the fan disc if that plan works. As for info given, it's still largely untested and might not be right. Everyone is doing a ton of assuming and next to no investigating. If Altair is already at the limit of her power creep thanks to the universe threatening to remove her, then the solution to defeat her is already present. Heck, if Selesia didn't waste her power-up swing then Altair might already be dead if the power needed to survive the attack would have pushed her past that boundary.

And if it goes against the Colosseum plot, then that just means the Colosseum plot is atrocious in its present state. It's messy and reckless, providing ample opportunity for something to go wrong and Altair to become as strong as possible.

>>160042510
>Better start reading between the lines.

The entire character should not be "read between" the two meager lines the show has bothered to write for them.
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>>160040027
believe it or not this is why the threads are good, this show leaves alot to theorize and discuss, the whinning usually comes with good critizism and if not it generates discussion, there is no fanboyism, the threads have made me enjoy the show a lot more
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>>160043042
Selesia didn't attack Altair when she powered up.
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This delay is set up so Ei Aoki can go to Otakon.
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>>160043749
I know, that's what I said. If Selesia bothered to aim that attack at Altair instead of swinging at nothing, she might have killed Altair then and there.
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>>160043901
Mamika killed Altair in Hiroe's script. She just comes back uninjured anyway. Too bad we didn't get terminator Altair.
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This fucking show. It keeps doing things I like, and then sandbagging the shit out of them.

They know what I want, and almost give it to me.
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>>160043042
Colliseum is the bird cage, she is not supposed to teleport outside when things get hairy like she did in the battle at the parking lot.
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>bored
>decide to listen to the ost
>get to God of Ink
>orgasms in my ears

Oh god, why didn't anyone tell me it was this fucking good!
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This bitch needs to be removed from the show. It might already be too late though. Most shows go to shit once the government get involved in the plot. At least when they're on the good side. Who the hell thought boardroom meetings and strategy conferences were exciting?

Mamika and Shark are so good because they interact with other characters. That's what they need to do, that's what's good about having so many different characters from different worlds and with different worldviews.

Seriously, just fuck these meetings.
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>>160044083
they nips have finally mastered the art of blueballing, this was just an experiment, more anime like this are going to come
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>Infinite God Machine starts playing
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Jerking off Inori Minase killed the show. Everything happening is just a fuel for Minase's infodumps, guest starring Meteora as the avatar of lord and savior Inori, the seiyuu waifu of the year, all years. This is so blatant it's just disgusting.
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>>160044406
>Inori Minase
She deserves it all Rem.

Rem is love, Rem is life.
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>>160044269
What other tracks have they not used yet?
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>>160044481
pretty much only that one and God of Ink
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>>160044406
*Meteora
Not the seiyuu's fault Hiroe is jerking that shitty character.
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>Jerking off
>can't get up
>play God of Ink
>explosion of my dick

Why the fuck haven't they used this.
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So we get a PV for the last quarter saturday, r-right?
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people actually watch this shit? looks like your typical mecha/wizard magic shit. Not gonna bother picking it up
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>>160044645
uh,alrighty then
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>typical mecha
you wish
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>>160044645
If only.
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>>160044564
The jerking happens only because they want to sell on Inori's popularity. Do you understand that or do you need a recap episode by Meteora to get it?
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>>160044796
Nah, a seiyuu episode with Minase Inori as the host is what this show needs.
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Is this special made specifically for us to feel like a timeskip is happening
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>>160044568
Wait until Soda become SUPER CREATOR.
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https://twitter.com/srghrg/status/887911313711669248 oh lord guide my cock
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>>159998822
Holy shit, why am I still watching this? It's like I like getting ass fucked.
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So far everything important could have been packed into a single movie.
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>Thread barely get replies
Just let it die and forget about ReC /a/nons ;_;
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>>160048031
It's just we don't have much left to discuss.we'll be back on the track when next ep PV is released.
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>>160047603
inb4 recap movie announced
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>>160047603
>>160048198
Thread will die and then rise up when the time is right just like Mamika
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I hate this series so much.
This had an incredible potential and it was completely wasted.
I don't understand how a series with this many infodumps manages to still have so many unanswered questions that should have been addressed 10+ episodes ago.
Why have we not had any explanation or even someone addressing what happens to the characters if their anime is still going?
1)why did the MC get sucked in Selesia's anime instead of his creator?
2)what happens to Selesia's anime? Is it still going for everyone?
3)if it is then why does she not change when an episode airs but a single tweet can make her completely change character design?
4) if she is from the anime and doesn't know what happens later then whan she was transported to the real world why does she change when the author proposes on twitter a new design for her in the novel?
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>>160048571
>This had an incredible potential and it was completely wasted.
I feel you
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>>160048571
>1)why did the MC get sucked in Selesia's anime instead of his creator?
It's erratic. Yuuya doesn't recall getting into the earth through someone like Souta
>2)what happens to Selesia's anime? Is it still going for everyone?
Mamika's anime is ongoing.
>3)if it is then why does she not change when an episode airs but a single tweet can make her completely change character design?
Her character depends on the way the people perceive her, since the original author wantted to give her a new design it stuck for her more than the adaptation. Matusbara basically fucked up with the twitter powerup, firstly because while the short tory inspired the people it interfered with the continuity within Selesia's story.
>4) if she is from the anime and doesn't know what happens later then whan she was transported to the real world why does she change when the author proposes on twitter a new design for her in the novel?
This I don't know completely either. But all of the characters are from a certain point in their stories.
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>>160048961
>Matusbara basically fucked up with the twitter powerup, firstly because while the short tory inspired the people it interfered with the continuity within Selesia's story.
He basically said there's a short story in which Selesia comes back from the verge of death, or a huge trouble, with a massive flaming sword, and he'd put it into the main timeline if people liked it. He basically confirmed it would be canon as her creator. However when you put something like that you need to make sure it doesn't retcon previous situations, is foreshadowed in the least, has a precedent or at least makes sense in the context of the universe she was from. People simply didn't buy it, if they did she'd be walking around in a large coat with a giant sword.
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>>160048961
The inconsistency of this anime is exactly why I hate it, they tend to overexplain stuff that doesn't need it and then they completely miss to explain simple stuff that is much more important.

>>160049251
The problem is not what happened with the tweet, the problem is that if the characters is based on the perception of the main public a tweet shouldn't make her change appearance all of nowhere, if it does then she should be getting memories, abilities and wounds everytime a new episode of her anime airs because thats when the public perception about her is at his peak.
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>>160049520
I don't get why you find this as an excuse to whine about the show. We don't even know if this is a reverse isekai or not because we are not given some specific information. It's obvious that we are going to learn if their worlds were even real or not in the future. We already know their abilities, not their personalities and knowledge change according to the stories or how they are perceived changes, otherwise they'd just change the way Blitz and Aliceteria thought in the border world spinoffs to rid Altair of her allies.
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>>159998661
If the show stops masturbating the writers and focus on the fucking story maybe people would stop thinking that
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>>160049933
That is not even the biggest problem I have with the anime, just one of the many.

The fact that the biggest fight we had until now was created by a series of retarded coincidences.

The fact that to make even slightly useful the MC they make it so the government recognizes every single character except 1 or 2 just so that the MC can tell them who they are.

The fact that there is half a series worth of exposition and I still know nothing about most of the cast.

The fact that the only character that died in 15 episode is the most clichè you could kill.

And even if all those were not issues what you say is stupid, their world being true or not doesn't mean that the rules they impose on themselves shouldn't be respected.

>We already know their abilities, not their personalities and knowledge change according to the stories or how they are perceived
This is retarded, why would perception only influences what they can do?

You mean to say that a character would be able to gain power but not remember how they got that power in the first place?

Let's say you are right, that would mean that if in the anime an ally of Selesia dies and gives her his magical sword she would suddenly gain the sword but she wouldn't know why she has it.
That is really stupid, if they are now real they shouldn't be able to change, if they are still connected they should completely change in body and spirit too, you can't just arbitrarily decide that they are only partially connected because you want them to develop a character from the real life story but also want to be able to give them OP powers from the "fictional" stories.

Well, you could, but then you shouldn't be surprised if people don't accept it because it doesn't make sense with the world you created
I just realized they fucking explained their biggest problem in their own anime, that is really on a different level of stupidity.
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So what's the best case scenario of an ending that somewhat redeems the show for you guys?
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>>160050778
>The fact that there is half a series worth of exposition and I still know nothing about most of the cast.
That's your problem.
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>>160050778
>This is retarded
It is not retarded you dumb cunt, Selesia's show is still ongoing if she had learned somethnig new along the way in her anime it would reflect on herself. WE ALREADY KNOW MEANS WE ALREADY KNOW.
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>>160050848
I don't really care about the ending, I just hope the rest of the episodes won't have much Meteora talking, will have some battles and conclude character arcs
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>>160050778
>The fact that the biggest fight we had until now was created by a series of retarded coincidences.
It was explained that the creations attract each other without them being able to tell the reason why. Mamika headed to Magane by instinct, since she was flying to find someone and she was already under the effects of severe blood loss.
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>>160050778
>The fact that to make even slightly useful the MC they make it so the government recognizes every single character except 1 or 2 just so that the MC can tell them who they are.
It's clear with this level of attention and intelligence you will end up drowning in your own questions and probably will never enjoy the show in the end.
>Let's say you are right, that would mean that if in the anime an ally of Selesia dies and gives her his magical sword she would suddenly gain the sword but she wouldn't know why she has it.
So you're saying this scenario you made up which doesn't even happen in the show is the problem with the show itself? You really are retarded aren't you.
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>came wanting to laugh at the preview as usual
>sorry bro, we seiyuu special this week
What the fuck man.
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>recap episode
>then no episode at all

we're reaching Kekkai Sensen levels of blunder here
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>>159998661
What, why the fuck isn't there a new episode this week?
They already did a recap Episode not too long ago, just how much of a disaster is their production?
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>>160052114
again, this was known for a long time, one special before and one special after episode 16, we knew that from at least 2 months back, that better be a good episode if they feel the need to put both specials in that order
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>>160052050
>>160052114
Specials were scheduled months in advance.
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>>160052050
But Kekkai Sensen was fun and the final episode wasn't even close to the title of best episode.

>>160052114
It has been announced that there would be 3 specials before it started airing. We didn't know ALL of those specials would be live action.

The fuck up is the scheduling, recap - episode - seiyuu special - episode - another special. Who thought this would be a good idea when the story is already taking things slowly and doesn't need breaks?
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>>160052050
Well at least we're still far from God Eater tier
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>>160052286
The nips are shilling it more than they would a normal episode so I guess it works? Sucks for us tho.
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>>160052362
Nips don't give a shit either.
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>>160052784
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>>160009113
>>160007059
>bland protagonist
>this kind of shit happens
why?
just why would they throw those scenes into the trash?
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>>160053139
Fucking seiyuufags
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>>160044194
Imagine how fun the special could be if they gave us the creations interacting, having fun(not listening to shitty infodumps) for a full episode for a change, just as they advertised it.

>>160044406
It's like they thought just adding her seiyuu was instant meme girl and crazy popularity and it had the opposite effect.
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>>160050926
he's not wrong though
the cast is completely forgettable aside from mamika and matsubara
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>>160053139
>not even 1k RT
I guess even the seiyuu can't save this.
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>>160053411
DELET
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>>160053411
Who?
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>>160053411
You picked the wrong character
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>>160053411
Replace Matsubara with Shark, she's getting more attention.

My boys Blitz and Rui deserved better.
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>>160053565
This show and none of it's characters have any lasting power. And by the time it's over most people will want to forget it ever happened like most originals.
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>>160053411
Altair is the only character that will be remembered. Even with as little screen time as she gets she still crushes everyone in amount of fan content.
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>>160053714
The saddest part in my opinion is that it has so little rewatch value. I don't find it fun to listen to Meteora talk for 20 minutes about things I already know.
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>>160053411
There's nothing special about matsubara though.
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>>159998807
>seiyuu shit
WHY THE FUCK DO THE DO THIS SHIT? DO JAPS ACTUALLY FIND THIS SHIT ENTERTAINING WHEN IT'S JUST SLAPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR SHOWS?
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>>160053739
I think she and the Shark are the only characters that will be remembered. Honorable mention goes to a Space Marine knight.
Altair best girl
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>>160053782
Takarada is the better dad anyway.
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I can't believe this shit has two, (and possibly 3 if you count Charon) mechas designed and modeled and they have barely been used. I just don't understand this shitty show.
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>>160053821
>Honorable mention goes to a Space Marine knight
Kek, someone should draw Alice in 40k sisters armor.
Too bad drawfags have abandoned us too
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>>160053864
Only 2, Charon also pilots a Vogelschevalier.

The most disappointing fight was Gigas Machina vs Gigas Machina mirror match.
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>>160053644
>My boys Blitz and Rui deserved better
I'm still mad.
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>>160053916
Aoki was too busy having his waifu excaliblast Aliceteria
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>>160053739
Just like Hestia, right? The girl who had a shitton more fan content than this entire show's characters combined? Please anon, Altair is no Megumin or Rem.
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>>160053864
There's also this shit we have no idea about.
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>>160005258
Madoka and saber living as hobos!? Hahahaha I would relish that if it existed! Lets make it happen 4chan
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Even aldnoah manages to maintain jp fans after two years but I don't see this show managing that.
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>>160054136
If the final act will be good then it's possible
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowMpsdjefQ
Frozen Hime
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>>160054136
To be fair, those fans don't like Aldnoah as much as they like Slaine. Hime could have had a similar fanbase if she had more screentime.
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>>160053714
Magane will live on as a series of reaction images...
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>>160054426
Just like she does in-universe
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>>160053898
Not everyone.

I drew magane as Revy.
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>>160054255
I don't see it unless they rework her character entirely. Slaine was memorable because he was a main character, from the very beginning you followed his personal growth and trials to the very end and could get attached. There's no character like that here.
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>>160053916
I should not be surprised since a/z never had any interesting melee matches. Even in this show regular fights are spastic stick waving, oneshotting mages and beams.
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>>160054255
Your dubs speak true. Now even with limited screentime, you can make Hime memorable by having her have an active role in the plot. Even via proxies if they hate animating her so much.

The one one we got is a glorified neet.
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Tell me the truth.

Is she drunk or something?
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>>160054692
Well yeah, rather than more screentime I should have said "if she was treated like a main character". And it's not just Hime, the character designs in this are pretty nice and the concepts for their personalities work. Even though they're supposed to be cliches thrown together, they still manage to be interesting.

Selesia has her dorky expressions and isn't just a maiden in danger, even has a nice more mature style of dressing which isn't usual for that type of heroine. Rui's casual attitude and how he tried to pick up girls with his giant robot make him a fun mecha protag. Alice is the main character of a berserk-like manga and actually wears heavy armor instead of a skimpy outfit. Everyone wants to see Blitz's original story because it seems so cool. I could continue, but you get the gist. It's a shame to see them go to waste.

>Slaine was memorable because he was a main character, from the very beginning you followed his personal growth and trials to the very end and could get attached
He was such a perfect combination of adorable personality that gets tragic character development, beautiful design and struggle and suffering that made him popular.
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>>160054692
Unless you count Magane.
>began as a murderhobo
>an heros her author
>finds work as a maid
>tricks everyone into killing each other
>makes big bux from stocks, laughs at CNN and lives like a richfag
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>>160055111
No. She's the only one thinking straight.
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>>160055111
She is drunk on anger and vengeance.
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>>160055111
digits say yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2V2qOvuULo
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>>160053807
The thing that surprised me the most is the fact that they're suddenly doing something with the VAs despite completely ignoring their existence in the show itself. Like, who's gonna voice Celesia in the crossover show? Will she do it herself despite not being an actor or will they hire Mikako Komatsu? What about the characters from manga/LN that don't have an anime yet? Will they cast whoever? Do they already sound suspiciously like some existing VA who could do it? This shit should have been addressed in the show instead of throwing some garbage VA special in the middle.
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>>160055406
>not available in your country
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>it was planned from the beginning so it's fine guys
no it's not
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>>160055566
This, I knew about it for a month and i'm still mad
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>>160055472
I'm sure it would take no less than several minutes to introduce the characters to their VA's. There are a lot of ideas regarding this concept, reverse isekai crossover is new and could be much more vast than this, don't expect to see every single one of them happen.
>>160055566
Yes it was.
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>>160054426
I know I got mine saved up
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>>160055406
Hime is pretty cute.
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>>160055958
The cutest.
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>>160056222
That's clearly the slutiest.
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>>160056222
You're correct, Altair is the cutest. Weird picture to post with it though.
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>>160056301
Here'a an actual cute.
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>>160044009
That might have occurred in the original script, but to our knowledge it's not actually true in the final product. If it was, then that would have been something actually worth showing to give us a better idea of what Altair can do, and if she similarly regenerated from Selesia's attack then the idea of the bird cage plan would at least make a bit more sense, though rushing her with reality's eviction on their side would still be the safer option. As it stands though, Altair might have just face-tanked the explosion in the run-down building but been able to have been pushed to an evicting limit if Selesia bothered to attack her.

>>160044091
But they haven't even remotely tested if such a thing would work. They're pulling the idea out of their butts in a situation that automatically will give Altair tons of time to get stronger and tons of attention that could also help her get more fan works and thus become more powerful.
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>>160056540
Altair doesn't even know if the universe will collapse. She doesn't have experience with crashing this universe with no survivors. This is uncharted territory for the whole cast
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>>160056375
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>>160056631
Yeah, no one knows anything and no one is bothering to try to figure anything out.
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Will this Seiyuu Special be subbed?
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>>160056888
First special was not.
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>>160056884
They can't fuck around with the audience so they only tread on the territory they know.
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>>160057000
Why can't the characters bother trying to learn anything themselves? Why isn't the government trying to test this stuff out? Even Altair has no idea if her big plan is remotely viable or not. This anime is a bunch of unproven nothing and sitting around.
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>>160056888
would you watch it? I know i wouldn't
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>recap episode instead of continuing the plot
>it's the best episode yet
>seiyuu special instead of continuing the plot
>
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>>160057205
They worked out permament powerups if you haven't noticed. This show really isn't for you if you are just going to whine about everything that you don't see.
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there had to be a miscalculation on the budget, none of the episodes so far has really had a strong animation and the disparity between the publicity and the real product is notable
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>>160057630
The animation budget Troyca received from Aniplex and Shogakukan is probably less than either the advertisement budget or the audio budget for Sawano & the VA.
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>>160057630
They're a pretty small new studio and just hired new animators for this anime in November.
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>>160057630
It doesn't seem that much for aniplex honestly, just the usual for shows they have some hope. The usual newtype articles with one cover, one collab cafe, one giant Hime poster and one event with 2 mamika posters and some roses and some people even paid to leave the roses to reduce costs. And lots of cheap merch like key rings and stickers, and the not unusual tie-ins manga and they'll sell some edited Hiroe script as a LN. Out of those the cafe, cheap merch and tie ins should give some profit in this dying BD market.
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>>160058268
That's not really that usual for an aniplex original, or they upped their advertising in the last year and I didn't notice.
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>>160058617
One poster, one cover and an article in a specialized magazine, one collab and one very simple event for a 2 cour anime? And then throw overpriced stickers for people to buy. And people keep complaining about aniplex throwing money at marketing when the usual is even less than that? That sure is disappointing.
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>>160058788
I don't understand why people take issue with marketing at all. This was weak at best. Arange some flowers for a fan meetup? Nowadays advertising is half of the budget in the west.
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>>160058788
You might be biased because your are making it sound like nothing. I'm not making a big deal out if it, just comparing it to recent aniplex originals I watched, not implying it's a shocking amount of budget.
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>The premise was kinda like fate
>then it became Shirobako
>the production is a clusterfuck like in Girlish number
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>>160059220
It's not nothing. Even getting TV space is expensive. But there is no "disparity between the publicity and the real product" in terms of costs.
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>>160059220
Quality Code was a year ago.
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>>160059349
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