Daiz killed MPC-HC

Who removed his rotating the velocidensity of several girls and not taking responsibility?

>>159928715
so? what's stoping you from using mpc-hc+madVR+xysubfilter for another years?

>>159928747
I've been trying to remember that pasta for ages thanks mate

>>159928715
Use mpv you pleb

>>159928909
Id rather use vlc than mpv.
Mpc still works, they didnt shut down some essential server you need to run it. Why change?

>>159928757
>>159928958
Because mpc still lacks
>Vulkan
>D3D12
that can run madVR smoothly without a gaming pc.

>>159929094
so use mpv or whatever, who cares, that wasn't my question

>"that"

gonna need more proof than this

>>159928715
Use Linux and get Miro

>>159928715
I use Windows Media Player, why would I need MPC in the first place?

>>159928715
MPC-HC has been dead for almost 2 years and it still works perfectly.

>>159928715
>extreme homophobia
Daiz seems like a pretty cool guy.

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inb4 /g/ makes a media player

>>159928715
>"that"
the what?

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I've been using CCCP for the last 6 years and it just works.
Maybe y'all should stop being so autistic.

>>159929542
this: >>159928731

>>159929542
You know
that

I'm not even sure what version of cccp I've been running since it was years ago that I installed it.

>>159929537
Can't wait for the logo.

Who /MXPlayer/ here?

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>tfw VLC masterrace

>>159928715
RIP

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>tfw notepad master race
When will faggots ever learn

It's not completely dead yet. There's still a possibility of someone showing up and continue the development of it. I want to believe.

>>159931111
But who on modern /a/ (or /g/) knows anything about computers?

>>159931140
I don't think it's such a low chance that there's one or two anons who loves watching anime and uses MPC-HC and would be willing to work for its continuation. Isn't this somehow similar to the Pantsu's creation? And even if we fully disregarded the chance that someone from /a/ or /g/ would show up, MPC-HC is still rather a quite popular video player, it wouldn't be unusual to find someone willing to help. Maybe I'm just being optimistic since I've been using it for years, I don't know.

After years of mockery, our age has finally arrived. Rejoice, my VLC brothers.

>>159931920

I'd rather stream than use VLC

>>159931547

You're unlikely to find someone with the skills and high functioning autism to program something to support madVR. Most don't care, because current resolutions are good enouogh.

Anime isn't shot in 4K, and although the best movies look best in full HD, most anons opt for 720p. There's very little meaningful difference between 1080 and 720 for TV anime. Just look at which torrents get the most DLs, understand that most of the world doesn't live in a capped wired broadband shithole, and you'll see that full HD, 4K+ is niche for anime purposes.

>>159928715
Great. Now if only Madshi can get that stick out of his ass and contribute to the glorious free software MVP player.

>>159932164
The reason 720p is the most downloaded is because TV anime is aired at that resolution. The 1080p torrents are just upscaled with inferior quality.

>>159932418
Wrong.
CR gets their files at 1080p. Their 720p encodes are bad downscales.

>>159932450
If I wanted quality why would I watch a CR rip? I can assure you that a 720p TV rip looks better than the banded to hell trash CR calls a "release"

>>159928715
I haven't updated in a while, it still runs fine, who cares?

>>159932487
You were just talking about "most downloaded". Don't move the goalposts.

>>159932575
Yes, in most cases the 720p release is the most downloaded. This is true for both cr rips and tv rips. It makes no sense for cr rips, but it does for tv rips. If someone wants to watch a decent quality rip, they watch a 720p tv rip, if they don't care they get the cr rip. My point is, that for someone interested in quality, the 720p tv rips are the best thing to watch as it's airing. I'm not moving the goalposts you stupid nigger, stop trying to argue shit when your understanding of fallacies comes only from reading argument in this shithole.

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I wish amazon would kill CR already.
I torrent my chinese cartoons but tried out primevideo out of curiosity and it's much better.

>>159932724

You're a dumbass because

>If I wanted quality why would I watch a CR rip?

Nobody cares about what you think. The discussion was >>159932164 pointing out that 720p is the most popular DL when 480p or 1080p are available. Who gets the most hits? Horrible. What is Horrible? A dirty CR ripper.

People watch 720p because 480p is too fucking ugly but the difference between 720p and 1080p, even on a downscale, is minimal. They'd rather get the file faster because the file quality is a wash.

720p can be unacceptable. Most of /a/ has seen Kimi no Na wa because the 720p upscale is bad, and it's a movie which is worth scaling up the resolution. But for TV anime? "good enough" is fine.

And I bet those who DL 480p, are watching it on their phones where the resolution isn't as bad. 720p is PCs and 1080p those who also have TVs.

>>159928715
>shit is so perfect no one wants to work on it.
get the pajeets to shit it up.

>>159931111
That someone couls be daiz or that tranny herkz. Effectively killing development

>>159928715
>killed MPC-HC
Yeah my MPC suddenly stopped working, it's totally dead, how the hell do I watch my cartoons now? I still have to watch that boruto episode.

Anybody here have the attack on titan title translation pic?

>Using outdated software

Enjoy your viruses
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2017/05/23/hacked-in-translation/

>>159928715
Just use MPC-BE, it's almost the same.

>>159933427
This never affected MPC-HC.
It don't even has anything to do with subtitles files but with archive (.zip. etc)

>>159929492
>I use Windows Media Player

There's no saving you, might as well be using RealPlayer.

>>159928715
Oç daiz

>>159928715
>oreimo leak
Man, old times
>cosplaying as OPM
lel

It's not like the thing is buggy or doesn't work. Why can't kids stand software that doesn't get an update every 8 hours nowadays?

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>>159933774
It's not like webms are any better.

>>159928715
Use Linux fags

>>159936770
You mean GNU/mpv

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>>159928715
Streaming. Duh.

>>159929094
>>Vulkan
>>D3D12

Why would you even need that for animes? Is commie ever gonna encode his subs in a way that need DX12??? No? Then I don't care, autistmbucks.

>>159936770
>>159936952
VLC is open sauce, retards.

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>>159937388
It's also vlc.

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>>159937455
It's gotten better over the years.

What really grinds my gears though is that no one has ever made a take-no-prisoners pull-out-all-the-stops super high quality rendering engine for Linux/OpenGL like madVR.

>>159928715
>Introducing websites to require the Daiz Seal of Approval(tm) to kill off competition
I'm pretty sure Pantsu also got that "Seal of Approval" because Daiz wanted voice on the IRC channel.

>>159936770
>Using Linux
Why would you ever use Linux when you can use something that actually works out of the box?

>>159937850
He's also in negotiations with Hiro with the aim of being given the authority to veto 4chan passes if he thinks the Anon doesn't deserve it.

>>159937996
Don't use emoticons.

>>159938009
I like DxD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExCIegqwdMA

>>159937996
>use a computer that only has VLC on it
>try playing a file
>instant artifacting on a fucking HorribleSubs file of all things
"No."

>>159931111
Good luck. Anyone interested in development will contribute to mpv.

>>159937879
Because Linux works, and GNU/Linux is an anime OS. Windows is a gamer toy OS for illiterates.

Although I'm gonna miss MPC for nostalgic reasons, I think it's good that development is moving towards cross-platform options (VLC, mpv) rather than a bunch of random exclusive media players for every OS. It makes people's lives a lot easier.

>>159938253
>instant artifacting on a fucking HorribleSubs file of all things

That doesn't say anything other than you're probably on some sort of shitbox like a laptop

>>159928715
Who is Daiz? Iss there a wiki page on him somewhere?

>>159938661
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daiz_(faggot)

>>159938661
He has a twitter, go ask him questions.

>>159937455
Different people have different needs, capabilities and priorities. One anon can't never watch an episode without madvr on the highest settings possible, one cares more about bandwidth or HD space while another simply doesn't know any better.

The thing I'll hold against any players whose subtitle filter isn't based on VSF is that you break the typesetting fansubbers slave away making for hours which in that case, even a hardsubbed reenocde would be better.

>>159938548
but rendering techniques heavily use proprietary CPU and GPU proprietary packages (such as D3D12, DXVA or CUDA) for better performance anon. I prefer watching my cute anime cartoons without artifacts with proprietary engines over foss ones.

>>159938548
Is there any real reason to use mpv over MPC-HC when you're not on Linux though? I like mpv, and it works better on my laptop, but on my Windows desktop with a beefy graphics card what's the point?

>>159939053
OpenGL, Vulkan, and OpenCL are OS-agnostic, anon. It's time to ditch the proprietary engines.

>>159938948
I heard my grandfather sometimes speak of those"fansubbers", usually in a hushed voice. His eyes would gleam with a mysterious fire while he recounted those precious memories of a long forgotten age. He met them just once, as a young boy no larger than three cheese wheels, stacked on top of each other. But that one experience would never leave him again, for as long as he lived. He told me how the fansubbers came walking through the village wearing grey cloaks and grey clothes underneath. Nobody dared make a hush as they passed, so imposing was their presence. They had serious expressions and they walked with determination. As they had left through the west gate the smith said that they were heading for the shores. That all the fansubbers were leaving. And no one said a word in response. Everybody just stared after them until they had disappeared behind a turn. Then the villagers went into their homes for a bleak dinner and a restless night.
My grandfather died last fall, but in his final moments he thought of the fansubbers. I don't know if they will ever return for us. But I put a candle into my window every night, so that they would not get lost on their way back.

>>159939641
>not a single mention of them being faggots

>>159939782
I failed you.

>>159928715
The mpchc devs left long ago and made a new and better player though
I won't spoonfeed you which one it is

>>159928715
oooh for FUCK sake.
i use k-lie codec pack which uses MPC HC.
i use madVR too.

VLC is total shit, just don't.
everyone in subbing hates it.

>>159929552
nobody is this stupid right?
CCCP uses MPC-HC, you retard.

>>159939871
CCCP and K-lite codec pack aren't players.

>>159940175
OP isn't talking about codec packs, and I'm talking about a player.

>>159928715
Should've used VLC right from the start desu

Finally gave mpv a try, it looks like shit compared to MPC-HC. The colors are more washed out and the interface is garbage. The command line shit is also autistic as fuck, what is the technical reason for why they can't just have a GUI?

Why do people suck this player's dick? Maybe it's better than VLC, but that's it.

>>159940668
>what is the technical reason for why they can't just have a GUI?
It's very light, I guess. That's about it.

>>159940668
>what is the technical reason for why they can't just have a GUI?
/g/ memes.

>>159937707
You just described mpv.
>inb4 muh NGU
RAVU will be out soon and it should be better.

>>159940668
Just get pot player for shit's sake, it has everything and it's from former Mpc-hc devs, currently the best player right now, google some guide for superior madvr and hardware accel if you got the rig for it.

>>159940175
>nobody is this stupid right?
I think his point is that if an old pack like CCCP still works without issues in 2017, MPC-HC still has several good years before becoming obsolete. By then, hopefully, others would have picked up the development or even forked a new and improved version.

>>159940668
later normie, back to VLC you go.

>>159940824
>>159940668
Basically desu. Stupid loonux /g/ shillers think they're so maverick for shilling a shit product. VLC just werkz btw.... right out of the box. Loonix doesn't.

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>>159942832
Thanks. That's what I've been doing for years. AND watching streams on chinese websites for the chinese cartoons. Why so TRIGGERED?

>>159942832
>normie,
Hello crossboarder.

>>159943112
Sorry, riyuuju*

>>159943131
My name is Dias though.

>>159939641
What is the reference?

>>159943596
It's just a random autistic wall of text.

shikatanai. It's been stable enough to go for several years without updates, can last another few.

It's not actually dead yet. Several people have contacted the devs with offers to help(this comes straight from people associated with the project), and someone even put out an unofficial build yesterday with several changes he had yet to check in. Looks like it'll still continue on fine, which is great, been using it for longer than I can remember.

Information/sources for the above here.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=166689&page=157

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174738

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>>159929537
>implying /g/ can program

>>159931111
There's no reason to keep developing it. DirectShow is dead (even Microsoft moved on), a fucking mess, and MPC is probably "perfected" as in there's nothing more to add (meme filters will still be made by madshi I guess). It's easier to develop a GUI to mpv, than to make new features to MPC.

>>159931111
Observed.

>>159931920
10 years later you will still be mocked for using a player so shit a 10 yo dead project still surpassing it.

>it's 2017
>people still use "codec packs"

>>159929560
Disgusting

PotPlayer.

>>159938562
>some sort of shitbox like a laptop
Unless he's using a netbook from 2007 it's just shit software.

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>>159928715
I use mpv.
>>159929552
>2017
>"Codec packs"

http://imouto.my/configuring-potplayer-for-gpu-accelerated-video-playback-with-dxva-or-cuda-and-also-high-performance-software-decoding/

>>159946457
>spoonfeeding

>>159928715
You can still use it you just can't update it. I don't see the issue.

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174738

Not dead yet.

>>159928715
Just use mpc-hc+madVR+xysubfilter + LAVfilters. That's all the updates to mpc-hc did anyway.

>op too dumb to use mpv

>>159928715
>xysubfilter

This hasn't been update since 2015. You're not freaking out about that.

>>159946485
It's a good guide though.

Not many in-depth guides about media players are available nowadays.

mpv just works

>>159929552
same my dude

>>159932920
This, Amazon must kill cr.

so what's the best media player and torrent site?

>>159946977
I use mpv for playback and AB for torrents, AB is private so use nyaa.si for torrents.
>ib4 muh cartel

>>159946977
mpc-hc + kawaii codec pack
nyaa.si/animebytes

>>159947157
>KCP
>2017
Have a (You).

>>159947215
I also use it and it works great.

>mpv
/g/ meme
want to change something - go google how to do it

why not just
install lav
install madvr
use any player that works with it and have easy accessible options for anything you ever need

>>159947215
It just werks, you know?
I mean sure, you can download all the individual parts mpc-hc+madVR+LAVFilters+XySubFilter but KCP is easy peasy lemon squeezy.

>>159932920
nah fuck amazon we need netflix to kill off CR this will make fansubs come back and all the normalfag anime watchers will have to wait months on netflix

>>159946457
This advocates for shitty "enhancements", completely retarded.

iina on macos

Do people even fan translate anymore? Hasn't crunchyroll swallowed everything?

>>159948200
iina is mpv, a gui for mpv
>>159947519
>>159947361
Can it 10-bit HEVC and Opus?
Surely it won't run AV1(the next video format).

>>159937879
Linux is great

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>>159940937
Yeah, mpv with an SMPlayer frontend is what I use now, but even in the opengl-hq profile I don't think it goes quite as far as madVR.

Also, what the hell is RAVU? Google only turns up different kinds of Indian food.

>>159947429
>using Windows

Enjoy your botnet.

>>159948813
RAVU is a neural upscaler inspired by RAISR, RAISR is a neural network develop with the help of Google.
bjin is implementing RAVU into mpv, still wip.

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>>159944113
>He hasn't heard of cloveros
Oh I'm laughing

>>159944113
Nyaa Pantsu mostly works

>>159932487
How do you get that with modern airing anime?

>>159928715
Diaz looks almost exactly like one of my best child hood friends I grew up with. He was a total normie though.

>>159939114
You do know that mpv supports a bunch of different GPU accelerated modes, you just have to configure it properly.

>>159949632
Building a custom distro doesn't require any actual programming.

>>159928715
I'm still using Winamp as my music player even though it's been dead for years, why should I change MPC-HC?

>>159948593
Just wait until Netflix creates their monopoly on anime licensing and then fansubbers will have to revive.

>>159952136
I haven't watched weebshit in a few years but my friend told me to watch an anime that was airing this summer so I got curious. And now with mpc ending, I feel like this is the end of my fond memories of weebwatching. What a bizarre time this is.

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I want EXACTLY 2,246 reasons to not use VLC.

Does this mean KCP is dead for good?

>>159952768
You've got another 2 or so years until fagniggers like daiz force new codecs that are incompatible.

>>159950268
I'm sure mpv can do everything up to and including make toast, you just have to configure it properly.

>>159954157
I use mpv to make my breakfast every day.

>>159954157
If you're too dumb to read the manual and put a couple of lines in a file you may as well just get all your anime from Netflix.

>>159952768
It's been dead for over two years at this point.

2017 is such a great year.

>>159954419
But do you eat all the eggs?

>>159932920
Amazon employee pls go and stay go.

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>>159950756
Muh Brah!

>>159948712
>Surely it won't run AV1(the next video format).
That's why I convert all videos to MP4 with VLC.

No one has ever been able to give me a reason to switch away from MPC+MadVR except
>FOSS
Fuck off /g/ shitstains.

>>159950756
Winamp still works beautifully.

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>>159957049
You know you can use ffmpeg to do that directly, right?

Doesn't functionally mean nothing for at least a decade though? How many new encodes could possibly be invented and accepted in that time really?

>>159957215
I've been using VLC for years despite all the green arrows from 4chan

>>159958811
Then you're an idiot. VLC is still horrible and always was with most of the high quality encodes

>>159958811
VLC is more reliable than mpv, which still chokes on things like linked chapters (and then the developer insists that encoders shouldn't use it. gee, love to know who made him king of animu). So if something won't play in mpv for whatever reason, VLC will pretty much always be able to handle it.

>>159958907
MPC handles those fine. Why are you using VLC

>>159958806
AV1 is looks very promising, is the open-source alternative to HEVC and it's being develop by AOMedia and Google.
Some anime encoders are waiting for AV1 to be released to decide which format to use, AV1 or HEVC.

>>159958955
MPC is Windows only.

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>>159958907
>VLC is more reliable than mpv

>>159958907
Linked chapters have been around for nearly 10 years now.
I remember Shugo Chara starting it.

>>159958989
I hope to God, Madoka, Haruhi, and Lain that they get it finished and working before Daiz has time to enact his evil scheme to force everyone over to x265.

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>>159928715
What's this thing with so many people here that you guys can't live if you're not using the latest experimental build of everything? Jesus.

>>159958989
>Some anime encoders
The folks at CR, Amazon and Daisuki?

>>159959211
Amazon, Netflix and Hulu are part of AOMedia, probably when the stable branch of AV1 is released they'll start using it in their platforms.
But I was referring to the fansubbing community.

>>159928715
>Muh honorifics
Why are weeaboos so insufferable about this unimportant topic?

That stupid chan, san, sama bullshit is out place in any language aside from Japanese. The relationship between different interlocutors is not expressed in the same way in other languages.

>>159959339
Fuck off Daiz.

>>159959316
>the fansubbing community.
They're dead. 10bit killed them.

gomplayer

>>159959375
The Blu-ray encoding community then.

>>159952693
Okay, one for every artifact that shows up in one freeze frame of any video.

>>159959422
Aren't they in a bad shape as well?

>>159959477
No.

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>>159949672
>still falling for the pantsu meme
Muh soundbites

>>159959636
Daiz, what part of "fuck off" don't you understand?

>>159931547
I'd do it but video rendering is a big pain in the ass, somebody else can worry about that shit.

So why do you need a program that's constantly updated just for the sake of it, if it works just fine now? This ain't fucking video games the only real advancement was h264 standard and that's been long ago, even phones and everything can play those by default now.

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>>159959636
Tell me Daiz, what's your endgame?

>>159932724
It makes no sense for cr rips, but it does for tv rips.

CR 1080p videos are almost always upscaled. There are only very few times where you'd want to waste disk space on a 1080 from HS: old funimation releases and when it's known that the anime is drawn at a resolution higher than 720 are the only times. Otherwise there's no point in getting higher resolution, your video player will upscale just as well as the 1080 is upscaled, if not better.
However, the reason most people grab 720 is because a lot of people are on toasters or stream to other devices (gaming devices, those USB media things, etc).

If madvr was open source I'm sure MPC-HC would still be alive

>>159959823
>>159959763
Pantsu is objectively inferior and prioritises useless features such as the mascots over actual functionality of the site.

>>159960179
Pretty much this, if madvr was open source it would be even shipped as the default engine in MPC-HC.

>>159938661
he's our guy, literally

>>159960457
See >>159959359

>>159959875
>CR 1080p videos are almost always upscaled.
No, it's really the other way around. Even if the source from the animation studio is 720p, you should download the 1080p version of HS because CR is so bad at downscaling.

>>159960766
What did you mean by this?

>>159960820
CR gets the anime in 1080p. It's an upscale, but that's irrelevant. You don't lose data from upscaling. But CR wants to offer 720p and 480p versions to save bandwidth and so they make those versions themselves. Except they suck at it. Badly.

>>159959077
I find mpv has a different failure mode than VLC, one that is most of the time less noticeable. While VLC tends to drop frames altogether, leading to grey regions due to the way video compressiom works, mpv holds the old frame until it can successfully load a new one, which causes "stitching" artifacts as two different and non-sequential frames take up different parts of the screen.

I wanted to like MPV, but it takes quite a while to open up compare to almost any other media player I've tried, the only way to fix it is to use angle which sometimes randomly crashes if you fullscreen.

So I gave up and used PotPlayer, more settings and a really good interface honestly.

>>159928715
>MPC-HC
Isn't that the player that "flashes" colors like crazy on certain scenes?

Use vlc you autists

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>>159928715
I KNEW the bald man was behind this somehow.

>>159963319
Remember when the word autist wasn't misused as an insult that means "you have standards and at least some basic knowledge of your hobby, and that offends and scares me despite that fact that I came to post on a board for enthusiasts of that specific hobby"?

Me neither.

>>159961719
Isn't that the Korean one that had a brief fad a couple years ago? It was kind of mediocre in my experience.

>>159965150
the korean one?

>>159965465
What are you asking?

>>159928715
>MPC-HC stops development
I-It's OK, there's still a lot of time before the scene standards change and it becomes obsolete.

>some autist comes in early 2018
>hey guys, check my bitchin new 1000-bit H.266 codec
>in a faraway land in a room lit only by the reflection of light off a bald scalp two eyes glint in the dark
And we're all fucked.

>>159965569
>Install new LAVfilters
>External Filters -> add LAVfilters -> set to prefer

wow so hard

>1000-bit H.266 codec

It's called AV1 and it already killed off VP10 and 2 other codecs. Lurk moar newfag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOMedia_Video_1

>>159946659
technology for rendering texts isn't constantly changing, no need to improve more.

>>159928715
No need. You can still install LAV separately for newer codecs

>>159932920
Fuck no, we don't need another market monopolised by a gigacorporation.