Tower of God thread So the rules of the Virtual Floor are :

Based Rak cleared the hell accidently train well before Bam and anyone else in their crew.

So do we know how Gustang feels about Zahard? Presumably he fucking hates him if he's doing all this floor of death shit, so he could have been talking about Zahard rather than V when he said "your father is a faggot".

>>159923440
>inb4 Rak is actually dead and what remains in the hidden virtual floor is just his data
>>159923387
everyone will bet that young zahard will look like a mirror image of wangnan

>Also, when the fuck did Rak get there? When did he even split from the group?
At the Name Hunt Station, Karaka attacked Yuri while Bam and friends were returning to the Hell Train. Rak became separated from them during that battle.

>>159923514
he said he was unfriendly towards everyone so I'd say they only tolerate each other.

He said that he acted unfriendly towards everyone while on their journey.

Also, did they just come from outside the tower, or even another tower and everything was pre-built? He said "climb the tower and change THIS tower". Maybe it's just a translation error but it means a lot.

>>159923609
that's kinda bullshit imo.

Of all the places to land he landed right into the enterance of the train

>>159923387
So I use to follow this, and stopped like 2 years ago.
Started binging it since a few days ago, and just caught up to where I was. Always fun seeing references to things that pop up later. Like Yuri mentioning Urek's tree-trunk legs, all the way back in chapter 2.

So is there a difference between shinsu and magic in this world?
Or is magic just really complicated shinsu?

>>159923648
Rak seemed very dead after Yuri cast an attack spell that spread across the whole horizon, along with two other useless characters. Then you see the other two are alive thanks to other useless characters saving them for no reason, and they specifically mention they can't find Rak, making him even more dead.
It doesn't help that ToG regularly kills or forgets loads of characters entirely, only for them to suddenly return 20 chapters later like they weren't gone at all.

>>159923387
Not anime or manga, fuck off.

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>>159924579
Ahem.

>>159924675
>2012
You think your old rules apply here?

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>>159924918
Ahem.

>>159923440
Rak is a boring character, why do everyone like him so much? Never cared about him, and honestly nothing changed to me when he was absent. What's even his goal? Being stronk?

>>159925339
see
>>159924986

>>159925705
Just ignore him. It's easier.

>>159925705
https://www.4chan.org/rules#a

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>>159923387
>So you can go in there to become stronger but you can't farm items there.

I thought you can, except that you can't farm items after you completed the hell train. So basically its a one time bonus floor/round

>>159924570
Rak's circumstances are bull shit, but anyone who thought he even had a chance of being dead is retarded.

>>159923514
>so he could have been talking about Zahard rather than V when he said "your father is a faggot".

This is my pet theory right now. Basically, I reckon Jahard went all Griffin on Arlene, and Bam is the result. Wangnan being the Prince is so obvious I feel it can't possibly be the twist. Bam being the Prince is more like it.

>>159925812
Heh, I didn't think about it like that, but you're right, it really is like a bonus prize level in a game.

>>159925880
>Wangnan being the Prince is so obvious I feel it can't possibly be the twist.
Wait, it is supposed to be a twist? I swear him being Zahard's son was already revealed long ago? Am I imagining things?

>>159926005
It's never been confirmed, as I recall, but at this point I think every single reader of the series thinks Wangnan is his son.

Unless SIU has totally bungled the whole Prince arc, which seems set up to be a big reveal, I think there has to actually be another surprise lurking somewhere. And it can't be Karaka because it's also totally obvious that he's also Jahard's son.

What does FUG stand for?

>>159926083
I don't think we know. I've seen people lately speculating that the G stands for "Grace".

>>159926005
It's all but straight out said. He's definitely considered a prince, his ring with Zahard's symbol, his immortality.

>>159926083
I always though it was Fuck U God, but it might have been too subtle a message

>>159926123
>his immortality.

That's kind of interesting, actually, because the immortality of the 10 family heads is clearly not passed down to their descendants. So Jahad, I guess, has some kind of super immortality.

>>159926123
I wonder how he ended up with that ring. I suppose it was his since his childhood, but have he ever questioned its origins?

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>>159926141

STOP RANKERCREEP LET THE GOD DAMN REGULARS SHINE

>>159926182
He seems to be aware of its significance, and seemed to know what Rachel meant when she called him a Prince. Also, Karaka's whole issue with Bam is that he believes one day Bam will come after him, which makes sense if he knows that A) he's Jahad's son, and B) Bam is prophesied to be the killer of Jahad. So I'm thinking they are both aware of their origins.

>>159926160
It's not like all the heads have the same immortality. Hell, one of them literally shortened the lives of all his descendants just for immortality.
And Jahad's power can be passed down through blood as proven with Ank.

>>159926182
He's plenty aware.

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How are Ten Families supposed to rule over all tower when they can't even enter Regular territories?

>>159926256
>one of them literally shortened the lives of all his descendants just for immortality.

It seems logical to think this is the family that adopted Androssi, right? Since it was stated it was a great family with no rankers except the head.

how mad would you be if baam turned to be jahad all along

>>159926266
Their authority seems to be purely theoretical in much of the tower.

>>159926266
They can't keep breaking the rules like that though. And said rules are also enforced by the guardians. Who aren't pushovers by any means.
Usually, when a ranker is in a regular area, they are examiners or their illegally with the guardian not giving a fuck.

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>>159923387
>When did he even split from the group?
He went MIA in the clash between Karaka and Yuri, couldnt escape the huge power clash and was thought dead. Of course for plot reasons he is still around, he's a popular character. I love the turtle but he jobbed hard last time, hope he got a buff on his journey.

>>159926107
According to the wiki, the G=Grace is the only thing SIU has confirmed on his blog.

Are the guardians the true final bosses?

>>159926499
Oh, it's confirmed? I didn't know that.

>gookshit

>>159926407
To become a ranker and to lose access to all those cool regular areas. What a shitty and unfair rule.

>>159926445
>he jobbed hard last time,
It wasn't even his fault that time. dumbass swordsman pretty much gave an Aria an ignition weapon. I mean, he might have won that fight otherwise.

>>159926160
>So Jahad, I guess, has some kind of super immortality.
Thats a given but seems Wangnan is a special case. Jahad has thousand of bastards everywhere and as far as I know they are not immortal, Wangnan has given immortality, the guy is really important for whatever reason.
>>159926509
>true final boss
>guardians
>not Baam's mom
I bet the bitch keikaku'd every single thing.

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Why is Xiaxia such a qt?

>>159926554
Well, for whatever reason the tower wants to be climbed by worthy candidates, and having rankers fuck with their shit isn't conducive to that.

>>159926509
I don't think the guardians are all that important. Phantaminum and Enryuu are the only people who could feasibly hurt one and one is an Axis and one is an agent of God. It wouldn't make much sense for the rest of the cast to be able to fight them. Aside from Headon and the two inside Baam I don't see the guardians having much of a role aside from giving out the occasional test or tidbit of plot information. They're probably just an inherent part of the tower - even floor 43's guardian started "growing back" before it got crammed into Joe.

>>159926266
They have lots of henchmen who will fuck your shit up for the sake of currying favor I guess?

>>159926594
>true final boss
it would be the axis wouldn't it?
or maybe even something outside the tower depending on how far SIU wants to take this

So what are the chances at an anime?
Noblesse got an OVA, and it seems a few other Webtoons have some animated ads (though they seem to be ads for the webtoons themselves)

Did the Noblesse OVA flop too hard for them to consider adapting any other works?

>>159923387

I like ToG very much but i feel that in the floor of death the story is getting convoluted.

What i mean by that is this: too many things happening at the same time, every event intertwine with another and not enough screen time is given to develop in an undertandable manner what is really happening. Also too many sub plots and characters stay idle for dozens of chapters till they have some form of conclusion.

I hope that SIU is trully a genius and dont leave some major plot holes with the narrative getting so complicated.

>>159923387
So this chapter confirms that blonde guy is the direct son of Zahard?

So, is he ever going to reference the statues that looked like Rak first floor?
So far it's the only mystery of that character

>>159926590
>Small Rak
>gets wrecked by white fuckboy
>suddenly he unleashed his big form and punches him in the face
>hype
>he loses offpanel
The way he jobbed against him was the worst.

>>159923387
So is Rak going to be like the weird eyes guy? Like he already was on the virtual floor but he lose his memories?

>>159926499
Why the fuck does he confirm these types of things on his blog? And why doesn't the Wiki link to the blog?

>>159923514
Baam is going to meet the 13 warriors so we'll know for sure who the real jerk was, but after this chapter i really think that V is still alive and is the head of the FUG and that's why Gustang hates him.

Also aside from the hair of their parents i know we don't have many clues but V and Viole looks too similar to not be releted and i think the big reveal is going to be Rechel being the daughter of Zahard and Rechel (someone is going to find the horns behind her head)

>>159930441
I hate that so much, he said a lot of stuff about the 10 families on his blog too

>>159930486
>13 warriors

the 13 warriors copies, actually some of them could have been good at the time only to change later

>>159929995
Well part 2 started up with "prince of Zahard" so probably. Weird how useless he seems to be, and uses bombs.

What do you guys think Gustang will do with young Zahard's data?

>>159930486
No, Gustang revealed the existence of the virtual floor, so his data and memories is gone.

>>159930441
>And why doesn't the Wiki link to the blog?
http://towerofgod.wikia.com/wiki/Vol.2_Ch.240:_43F_-_Hell_Train:_The_Floor_of_Death_(9)#Blog_Post
They may not link to the blog itself, but they do have a translation of some of the blog posts.

>>159930441
>And why doesn't the Wiki link to the blog?
it does most of the time

>>159930519
someone didn't take storytelling101

>>159930760
There is still the guardian's god insied the train and he never saw him, so maybe we will get something before the end of the train arc?

>>159930441
>>159930546
At this point there is probably more info about lore in the blog rather than in manhwa proper.

>>159930775
>No, Gustang revealed the existence of the virtual floor, so his data and memories is gone.

He also stated that since he is one of the 10 families chief some of the rules don't effect him, for that reason he can talk to Baam of the plane without losing the memory of it

>>159930775
>>159931059

Also he doesn't want Zahard's data but something the original Zahard gave to his copy

>>159930853
What? You should be able to fallow a story on one media only

>>159930441
Its lazy writing, IMO. He's doesn't know how to incorporate it into Baam's journey so he has to detail it in his blog.

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I miss the old days of ToG, it just doesn't feel the same reading it. Korean webcomics like this have the tendency to get a bit stale after you read them long enough. I dropped ToG for a few months precisely because I lost interest in it. Too bad, I hope Rak's return brings some life back into the series.

>>159931800
It's more world building than lazy writing. that guy has so much written down about the universe, a lot of it's just nice trivia that might not ever be important in Baam's story but will in another's..

>>159931897
There are a lot of characters who should know about this stuff, he really should just pick one and made him/her talk about this stuff

I'm so glad we can discuss manhwa on /a/ now.

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>>159933654
We've always been able to it was just one dedicated spammer ruining them.

I am happy that things have been picking up over the last couple months of chapters. Although I am disappointed in the 'strong character appears and makes MC take a test' cliche but we'll see how it goes.

Is young Gustang gonna be in the Hidden Floor? He said your data disappears when you talk about it, maybe it's a regulars only rule though

>>159936758
It's a regular and ranker rule but he said some of the rules doesn't work on him but still he can't visit the plane again

>>159930441
He said that only things that appear in the manwha are canon, all the lore elements he writes in his blog might be retconned at any moment. I also think he should put more world-building in the manwha proper but he probably doesn't want to put himself in a corner by writing a piece of lore on a whim and regretting it letter.

>>159937090
>letter.
later.

>/a/ - Anime & Manga

>>159926509
Probably just the guardian on the true top of the tower? Baam already got two guardians souls in him

>>159937090
Yet some of the major informations have been told already

Like i wanted to know what the thirteenth weapon was, but he already said what it is

>>159931895
I wouldn't say ToG has become stale. On the contrary I think the author is trying too many things and bringing too many new concepts and characters. The big story in ToG used to be very hazy and mysterious, but up to the Workshop Battle it managed to keep the reader interested by making him care about the relatively small cast and the immediate dangers they faced.
By losing more and more focus on the past characters and introducing a lot of reveals and plot elements it became ironically less exciting.
It's like ToG started as a relatively standard battle shonen but then ditched most of the characters to become a story about semi-god cuckolding.
Maybe it will become interesting again when the stakes are clear and the characters start to openly defy FUG, Zahard and his goons. But for now the story still isn't clear enough for me to care about it yet, while the regulars have become so unimportant relatively to Baam and the Rankers I can't care about them anymore.

>>159931895

Every chapter where Cassano was in sucked for me.
I hope Hatsu insta-kill him soon

>>159937547
I wouldn't call that in particular a major information. Every relevant Month that appeared in the webtoon has been named. We also learned how many there were, who made them and what was their purpose. Giving the name of every single one is typically the kind of thing that brings nothing to the story and is better left in the blog notes.

>>159928571
I get the impression that the axis are not going to be involved in this story. Could be wrong of course.

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>>159937655
I feel the opposite.

>>159937367
I don't trust Headon any further than I can throw him.

I stopped reading just during the fight with Kaiser, thinking about catching up.

Should I go back to it now, wait or just give up?

>>159940090
The main plot/backstory of the series finally started advancing since then, so you may want to give it a try

>>159941007
Yeah, seems so from threads ive seen on /a/
But how good is it really?

>>159941056
The revelations on Baam and his backstory have been pretty intense as hie origins were recently revealed and his parents.

>>>/co/

>>159925869
Rak did die though. Only key bit here is that Baam has the master key and can take Rak out of the virtual floor.

>>159927075
She's loyal and can also fend for herself. Has cute ears and color scheme. Also she's part of FUG.

Is Rak gonna be the first one to meet the young zahard? Hope he gets to fight the other ten family members when they were young.

>>159942910
>yfw Rak meets the Hendo Family Leader who looks like a turtle and tries to fight him
>instead learns from him

Androssi a best

>>159943164
You mean Rachel a best.

>>159939935
Yeah he is a prossibility

why cant rachel just die already

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>>159943164
>>159943237

That sounds like the kind of thing a pig would say.

>>159944655
Ryun is second best girl.

>>159925304
Because he calls everyone turtles and pretends to be alpha but lovable, ignorant character.

But he is a tsundere, and therefore shit.

>>159942813
>She's loyal
to money.

>>159931124
that's what I meant. I mean SIU didn't take storytelling101 that he was able to do something so outrageous like putting information about his universe in other medias other than the webcomic. It's even worse that the media is a blog post

>Rachel finally FINALLY got what she deserves
>Bam:"welp I gotta save her!"
god fuckin dammit Bam

Why is this allowed?

>>>/co/

>>159946748
Just wait until he completely forgives her.

>>159946807
>Bam and Rachel will end up together in the end
Sadly this might be the most likely pairing besides Androssi

>>159946897
SIU said that the heroine hadn't appeared yet a few years ago back when Rachel had already appeared, so it probably won't be her.

I suspect it will be someone who hasn't shown up yet.

>>159947028
my money is on flame girl.

>>159947730
She's pretty obviously going to be Rak's waifu. Andorthy is the main heroine.

>>159946897
God i hope not

>>159947730
My money is on Andori. Don't ask me to justify it, because I can't.

So how did Karaka and Yuri get on the train if they're not regulars?

>>159948248
karaka was smuggled by the train's driver. and yuri blackmailed one of her sister for tickets and then beat the shit out of the driver after getting in. she also made a bet afterwards with him about bam, but shit hit the fan and she just jumped in to save bam at the end.

>>159946748
I thought he would use the offer of Gustang to try to save Horiang, I was flabbergasted when he asked him to heal Rachel. But I guess I should have seen it coming.

>>159948510
who?

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>>159937655
>up to the workshop battle
Nigga the second Baam got 'killed' at the end of the first season was the first of many mistakes. (cough tokyo ghoul cough)

Killing the main character can be interesting, but this bullshit of introducing a new mysterious character who looks exactly like the previous main character is fucking retard status. ToG should have had a new main character take over for at least a single arc before reintroducing Baam (who should've never had his identity hidden and could've come in to protect the new character)

The problem ToG has is like every other manwha with creating drama for no real reason and doing stupid shit. Rachels motivations are straight retarded and even with everything revealed, MOST of what she's done involves her willingly fucking herself over for no real reason.

I just wish it had stuck to the initial cast we had built and continued developing them. Most of them are in development hell.

>>159948568
I admit I had to think for a long time before remembering his name.

>>159948568
The giant guy with the glowing blue wing thing on his back and the magic arm. You know, the guy with no personality.

>>159948312
This, except the Train Driver is supposed to kick them out, but he realized he was in deep shit, so he didn't kick out Yuri. It's illegal to be on the train, but it doesn't matter if the Train driver doesn't kick you off.

>>159948707
The reader was never supposed to think Viole wasn't Baam, it was obvious for everyone. As for in-universe I think it was handled well and everything from the hand of Arlene to the first part of the tournament was when season 2 peaked and the only part of it that lived up to season 1.
I think one's enjoyment of season 2 up to there depends mostly of how much you liked the Wangnan crew. I liked them save for Glasses so I was fine with the first 100 or so chapters of season 2. The real fuckery happened when Horiang went into a coma and Viole left the team.

>>159947028
Is there a reason why we are having a heroine?

>>159946087
I dunno about that. She did kinda betray FUG to help Viole, after they tried to betray Viole, even though there was no guarantee of being rewarded, and she could have potentially made more money sticking with FUG.
So even if she won't work without money, she also has some sort of loyalty, right?

>>159950149
Ask SIU.

>>159950171
She's basically loyal to Viole, I think. Didn't she call him a god at one point? It's only "rebel" portions of FUG that are against him, after all.

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>>159927075

>>159947028
>Many of you asked me about who the heroine is, but there's still a long way to go, haha. It's Rak for now...
He didn't say the heroine hasn't appeared. Seems to me just that there won't be any sort of romance going on for a long while.

>>159950331
>there won't be any sort of romance going on for a long while.

I don't imagine there will be a lot of romance at any point.

>>159950319
SIU has not given us enough XiaXia/Hwa Ryun interactions.

>>159950331
>>159950388
What about that date Androssi and bam went on?

>>159950669
Androssi is the heroine confirmed.

>>159950331
>>159950388
>>159950669
Rather than no romance, I think he means that for now, who the actual heroine of the story won't become apparent, and until then there was just a bunch of girls hopping on his dick.
The aforementioned blog post was from during the Workshop battle, so it was right before Androssi's date, and that's not a very "long way to go" from each other.
For all we know, he might actually end up with Yuri, whose been after his dick since day 1.

>>159930760
>how useless he seems to be
He is basically immortal, besides he supposedly will has a hidden power we have not seen yet.

>>159950954
will have*, anon

>>159951081
Fuck, I need some sleep.

>>159923387
What happened with Karaka and White, anyway? They totally ignored them in this chapter.

>>159951579
Slim McStrongDood let them go.

>>159951579
You seem them in the next ch and they just bail because they're both too weak to do anything else and would rather not stick around.

>>159951601
>>159951668
But White is cursed, so he can't leave.

>>159951692
i thought mr whatshisname took away all the souls white had absorbed and put them back in the spirit room, so white is able to leave as long as he's not a moron and doesn't go back for the souls.

>>159951692
Well, actually White doesn't do anything, Karaka just drags everyone out with his ball again. White isn't cursed though because of >>159951748

>>159952158
Poor White. Even when he is an asshole I can understand why he did all those things.

>>159948979
No need to. Miseng already sent his other half to put the left side of his devil back into the guy.

Baam wasn't gonna let her die anyway, even if they are enemies now considering he'll even help his enemies anyway. Hell, probably the only enemy he was truly ever pissed of enough to come close to killing was Hoaqin.

I always figured Baam was forcing himself to get over Rachel. But that's never an easy thing.

>>159953610
>No need to. Miseng already sent his other half to put the left side of his devil back into the guy.
Oh right, I completely forgot that happened.

>>159947833
> MC is recovering yandere
> Main love interest is fucking celibate
damn it.

>>159946087

That's heresy.

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>Baam saved Rachel

You fucking KEK piece of shit.

>>159946748
>>159946807
>>159946897
Of course, Baam will forgive her, and she will see the stars, as she wanted. But in the end, she will be alone, with no one at her side, while Baam will have his own harem and his royal army of bros. Maybe then she will kill herself.

>>159954318
You're talking about a guy who saves even his enemies. Thought he does have another reason to save her, with her knowing a lot of things they don't for instance. That was the reason Koon didn't just leave her either.

>have one of the family heads offer you a favor. It's the 3rd strongest wave controler
>The one that controls the best research group in the tower.
>use the favor to save Rachel

Baam what are you doing?

>>159954508
Muh Rachel

>>159946087
I remember she said her family was poor as fuck, so she needed the money no matter what. And I think she was talking about her "family" as her race, because we saw other bunny like her in one of the Floor battles and she had similar clothes to Xiaxia and she also looked like a hobo.

I'm not happy Rachel got an overpowered observer thing. I would have liked it if she continued having powerful people around her while she is actually very weak herself. It'll just be a boring slugfest.

>>159948707
>cough tokyo ghoul
How fucking new? The fake death happened in like 2011-2012. Kill yourself.

>>159954950
>Rachel got an overpowered observer thing
What?

>>159954950
Wait until she gets a thorn

>>159954553
>I remember she said her family was poor as fuck, so she needed the money no matter what.
This was a very cool moment for Baam. If I remember correctly, he was glad that no really fucked up shit happened in her past and she is only in it for money.

>>159955180
From the spoilers anon. She gets some sort of undetectable swordfish, probably from Gustang when he starehealed her, that harms Baam and goes toe to toe with Androssi

>>159955323
Ok, that's just bullshit.

>>159954950
It would be impossible for her to climb otherwise, her whole team is gone.

>>159950855
Yuri doesn't want his dick. She wants him to change the tower.

>>159929020
>So what are the chances at an anime?
I bet it would be a recent Berserk level of QUALITY.

>>159954180
>fucking celibate
Who?

>>159955450
>Berserk level of QUALITY
Speaking of which: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knHYgDZoDqU

>>159955555
Pretty sure he's talking about one of the Jahad princesses which are, of course, celibate.

>>159955587
>Jahad princesses
That's silly. Zahard's princesses can defy that law. Anak's mom did it. Forget that she was hunted down and killed by RED and other princesses. They're going to stand against Zahard anyway.

>>159955384
It's Rachel. You should expect this by now. Although I think by this point the Coin Toss game with Khoo amounted to a cat fight over Baam, I don't think the story benefits from shitting on Rachel anymore.
Baam's always been nigh-god level as an MC and there's no way that's changing. If Rachel stays using other people then Siu has to keep making these characters relevant in an already super bloated cast. She's clearly supposed to be weak mentally, so the only way to solve the problem is allow her to get powered up so she can survive.
I'm sure Siu will continue shitting on her. Coin Toss fight pretty much cemented that Rachel is forever useless and needs to remain useless, to the point where the only reason she's going to be alive is fucking Baam flying in to save her from 100 floors up or something.

>>159929020
Well it's Korean for one so I don't see it happening.

>>159955794
Anon literally just said Noblesse got an anime

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>>159954508
He definitely could have asked for more.

>>159955856
He asked about his father and Gustang insta-noped

>>159955450
Noblesse OVA was ok. No name studio and all.

>>159955828
It was an OVA and that was it.

>>159950855
Yuri is like a sister/guardian, and she'll definitely die once that role is no longer required.

>>159955587
>Speaking of which: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knHYgDZoDqU
This looks decent, but one just knows that wishing for the full-blown anime adaptation would be a wish which you make using a Monkey's Paw.

I guess Gustang is pissed at V for "killing himself" which left Arlene.

Why didn't Baam ask for more information, fucking dumb plot twists.

>>159956096
I could totally see Madhouse adapting it. They have Korean co-workers and they did HxH quite well.

>>159956157
Gustang said he would so learn anyways because he'll meet V and Arlen in the Hidden floor.

>>159956096
I think I'd rather have it in 2D.
There's also a God Of High School one that looks like it'd be a nice OP, and makes it look less trashy than it actually is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1HYX_yRgrg

>>159955967
Reminder that Korea is where Japan outsourced a ton of work and they're just as legit.

>>159955733
>They're going to stand against Zahard anyway.
Baam has no intention of standing against Zahard.
It's just that Zahard is most likely gonna get in his way regardless so he'll be ready for it.

>>159955898
You know, I'm starting to think there was this reverse harem going on and V was the jerkboy, Gustav the nerd, and Zahard, the tryhard turned yandere.

>>159956410
Regardless of how it happens, it will happen. He will stand against Zahard. The meaning doesn't change either way.

>>159956157
Gustang did flat out say he won't say shit on V. Would likely be a bad idea to press a family head after that. Especially when he is being pretty civil at the moment.

>>159956410
Baam has already said he'll go against Zahard and anyone who gets in his way.

>>159956410
>>159956638
>>159956688
Do we know if Zahard is alive, to begin with? I mean, they suddenly stopped climbing and nobody has seen Zahard in a long, long time. Might as well he was killed and they are hiding it and maybe that's why Gustang wants Baam to reach Young Zahard's data.

>>159956724
We don't really know because we haven't seen him, but it's presumed he's alive because he still orders people around.

>>159956724
It would be quite the twist to hear Zahard has been killed considering how strong the family leaders are. I wonder if Urek has even met him. He probably has since it sounds like Urek has met all of the family heads. It says he defeated Opera with no sweat and the only person who can use it in combat is a family head.

>>159956638
More like Zahard will stand against him. It's actually different. If for example, Zahard just decided to let bygones be bygones, they wouldn't tussle since Baam isn't actively against him.
If Baam was actively gunning for Zahard, Zahard stepping aside won't do anything to stop that.

>>159956688
Yea, what I said. Baam's goal isn't Zahard's head. It's the floor beyond. Zahard's merely an obstacle.

>>159956724
>>159956760
Zahard is presumably immortal, my bet is he split himself into multiple bodies such as wangnan and karaka

>>159956724
Zahard is alive but he's "resting". Right now, there are three rankers taking turns to rule the tower until he comes back.

>>159956760
But the Tower as we know is a mess, all of the heads of the Ten Families do what they want. Besides all of the heads have specific Floors to rule, Zahard rarely appears.

>>159955323
>toe to toe
Not really, it only blocked one attack. Let's see what will happen next before saying this.

>>159956919
Wangnan has a mother though so this doesn't really make sense.

>>159956936
>Zahard was so depressed after Arlen left he just sits in his room and cries everyday while waiting for his son to come and slay him

>>159956919
But Karaka is FUG, so it doesn't make sense to become a Slayer just to kill yourself.

>>159957245
>implying that isn't what Zahard wants

>>159957154
Zahard also had a mom, these could be Zahard's memories
>>159957245
different aspects of Zahard's presonality?

>>159957245
You would think FUG has some Zahard Spies eventually

>>159957305
Then, Zahard is more retarded than what I thought.

>>159957387
Arie Hon raises his children just for them to die and add to his power. Same with Hendo dude. They're all kinds of fucked up.

>>159957387
>>159957437
you have to take into account these people are thousands of years old They probably see the world much differently

>>159957365
Gustang is one of them, as far I know.

>>159957511
>tfw Hwa Ryun turns out to be a Zahard Spy

>>159925304
Rak was a good character when ToG still had comedy bits. After Season 2, and after all the drama happened, Rak really feels out of place compared with the rest of the cast.

>>159956994
I am just waiting for best girl blossom to show up. After all she's the only one who hasn't really screwed the place up so far. And since we have seen one half of the of the split couple in one arc why not the other in the next one?

>>159957629
Rak is gonna turn out to be some super powerful race that predates the ten great families or something I bet. That actually reminds me of those demons that can reincarnate, Rak sort of did that.

>>159957701
>rak awakens some kind of hereditary shit and becomes even bigger

i'd be fine with this

>>159955856
Why the fuck does baam/viole (and to the same extent SIU) still care about rachel? She's done nothing but betray people and hasn't even been relevant in like 100 chapters.
Shes just a dumb bitch and SIU should kill her off, it would make baam's character go through an arc as well

>>159957680
We just haven't learned what she screwed up. Her family is a bunch of lazy fucks so it's gonna be some sin of sloth. Also it was teased by snorlax that she's around too. Probably trying to stop Gustang and what not.

>>159957701
That was already confirmed in Season 1. He is one of those ancient native species that live in a place where is full of Shinsoo, so he being in the first floors is like being in a playground. The problem is, like I said in former threads, he always wants to fight as a Fisherman when his natural position is being a Spear Bearer.

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>>159957629
There are still some funny parts like this one. And stuff like this makes me think that Karaka doesn't fit the bill to be Zahard >>159956919

>>159957921
>implying Zahard doesn't only watch the news

>>159957772
That's what I've wondered as well. Her motivation was stupid to begin with, and I don't even see what haedon has to gain from sending her dumb ass up the fucking tower to begin with. And then she apparently learned a bunch of shit about Arlene off screen which is even more stupid.

>>159957921
I bet Karaka had a shit-eating grin at that moment.

>>159957803
Her laziness in a way actually helps on that. She may not help all that much but she doesn't seem to be hurting all that much compared to some of the others. Now just to figure out what the fuck was going on in the Enne zahard clusterfuck.

Anyone else think it's hilarious that Urek has a tattoo of his own name on his back? It's gotta have some other meaning, but it's still funny given his personality.

>>159958281
He's just that based. He also was topless for like his whole tower climb too apparently.

>>159958306
Right? He's just such an entertaining character. I'm glad SIU decided to give him more screen time.

>>159957971
>apparently learned a bunch of shit about Arlene off screen
But she already knew about her, probably Arlene told Rachel to babysit Baam, but Rachel had other intentions from the start.

>>159957772
>Why the fuck does baam/viole (and to the same extent SIU) still care about rachel?
Because despite everything she's the first person he ever knew, and literally his entire world from before he entered the tower.

He's been slowly realizing her true character and only recently decided to stop following her. But you don't turn off those feeling like a switch. Right after saying goodbye he cried a little after all.

Give it time. For now be happy that 1)He now see through her manipulations, 2) if they separate he'll really have no reason to chase after her anymore. If he's does, it won't be her but someone she's with he's chasing.

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>>159957971

She's SIU's waifu, he'd never write her off even if he was threatened to, which infuriates me to no end.

You have FUG, Zahard and his empire, the ten families, and much more as groups that are in conflict with Baam in some form or another, but Rachel is still the villain with the most focus by far.

You could have an internal war between FUG's radical group and the original group, a princess war once the secret of the 10 month series "game" is revealed to them, secret rusing and plotting between the ten families that have always supported Arlene and V from the beginning in some crazy plan.

ANYTHING would be more interesting than chasing Rachel up the tower and her spitting out a bit of the plot every time they catch her. Fucking hell, man.

>>159926083
I remember reading it means something Under Grace, but I don't remember where I read it. Probably in some blog, or when TheCompany still released translations of Tower of God.

>>159959218
>or when TheCompany still released translations of Tower of God

You know what I would've done if I were line? Let them keep translating and just host the shit on line. They've gotten a lot better, but for a long time line's translations were utter shit. Even now they're not perfect.

>>159959281

They definitely better than the bullshit we have now. I remember they used to do the author's afterword on every chapter, and they also translated SIU's Naver Q&A after Season 1 ended.

A bunch of other shit too like the extra glossary/worldbuilding stuff that SIU wrote as well. I'm still pissed off that they changed the names to "Khun", "Endrossi" and the like.

>>159957971
>and I don't even see what haedon has to gain from sending her dumb ass up the fucking tower to begin with.
To get Bam to follow her?
Seems like Haedon supports getting rid of Jahad.

Rachel is hated and weak yes, but she is still at the core of this story and has been created as the female protagonist. Obviously she will keep being relevant.

I need something similar to read to hold me over until the next chapter.

>>159957234
My guess is that it will be revealed that he's up there waiting for his Darth Vader moment to be all "come join me son, and together we can rule! You can even fuck all my princesses son, I got them for you."

>>159956854
>Baam isn't actively against him.

Yet. Zahard and the heads are directly or indirectly responsible for a lot of the suffering that people around Bam have gone through, like Koon and Androssi, and the people he encounters, like Kaiser or White.

>>159960289
There's absolutely nothing similar to Tower of God, this is the sad reality.

>>159957680
The spoilers hint that Snorlax (that's the pink sleepy girl, right?) is a spy for her.

>>159960289
Personally the webtoons I have enjoyed the most are: A Fairytale for the Demon Lord, Kubera and 4-Cut Hero.

>>159959281
>>159959596
Agreed. I remember how the staff in Batoto discussed things about the lore in SIU's notes, in his private blog and in his former deleted works. Stories like Carnival, Talze User Story and even an edgier proto-ToG that SIU cancelled before releasing the ToG we know and love, and the connections they had between them (The Towers, the Outside World, the Axis, etc).

>>159958612
This. I'm OK with Bam's current relationship with Rachel, now that he sees through her shit. It's worth bearing in mind that Bam has been inside the tower for what, 20 years or so? For all we know he could have been in Rachel in that cave for a thousand years. It makes no sense for him to dump her just like that.

In any case, SIU clearly has something important for her to do plotwise.

>>159959596
>Endrossi

We could be in chapter 2,000 and she'll still be Androssi to me. Even the minor names they made worse, like "Midori" for "Andori".

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>>159961003
Still better than Andorthy.

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>>159961129
I had forgotten about that until you came along.

>>159961172

Not that anon, but you remember when they still used Lahel instead of Rachel? Those were some dark times.

>>159961197
To be fair all of them had weird names in the first half of ToG.

>>159961197
Oh fuck, that's right.

Semi-related, do you remember the days when you couldn't tell what gender some of the characters were?

So Jahard has a first name, right? All the other family heads have a first name.

I'm going with "Bob". Bob Jahad.

>>159961252
>Get my friend into ToG
>"This Yu Han Sung seems like a devious kind of woman, what's she up to?"

>>159961287
I thought that guy was a woman for the longest time.

>>159961287
What if Rak is a girl?

>>159961252

Ho and Han Sung were definitely the biggest offenders that got me confused. Blame it on SIU's old style being too vague and not detailed enough

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>>159961342
>it's actually possible

>>159961345
>Blame it on SIU's old style
>implying he didn't do it on purpose
Yu Han Sung clothes, mannerisms and attitude were clearly girly, besides he abused his neutral pronouns for a reason, unlike with other characters.

>>159960299
Wouldn't that count as incest?

>>159961781
They're blood related but it's not incest. It's like the opposite of the normal we're not related cliche.

>>159923387
my question is how much longer is this series going to take to finish?

>>159961781
No they're all adopted

That would be an excellent way for the story to go though to accelerate the trainwreck of cast members. Just give Baam a giant harem out of nowhere. Also just to top it off have Rachel become a Zahards princess as well.

>>159961833
Unless you're a complete dipshit it should be obvious that it's not going to finish any time soon.

>>159961851
They are adopted but when they become princesses they infuse some Zahard blood in them, that's why it's forbidden to have descendancy.

>>159961129
>yfw Andorthy has 1A potential but has so far not displayed anything out there aside from dating Baam
Heroine fellas.

>>159961280
I only just realized this now. I guess his first name is King and his family name is Zahard. Arlen and V don't have family names either though and well neither does Baam and Rachel.

>>159962545
Those cards were already retconned, anon. SIU didn't want people to get high hopes about X or Y character like yourself did.

>>159962589
Arlene's family name is Grace anon, and we don't even know V's first name yet, so we certainly can't say he only has one name. Bam doesn't even have a proper name, and who knows what Rachel is hiding (protip: it's "Jahad").

Also it's clearly "Jim Jahad".

>>159962589
Kaiser's introduction seemed like a heroine-type introduction. Also, when is she gonna meet up with Baam and crew?

>>159962545
>a Princess is rated high on potential

Not exactly a shocker.

>>159962640
>Arlene's family name is Grace
So, she is related to Luslec?

>>159962652
This was a fillerish arc. She is not joining them.

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>>159962705
Anon, have you not read the last 10 chapters or so?

>>159962708
She's definitely coming back though.

>>159962753
Kaiser is an important piece in Bam completing his 10 families harem. Gotta catch them all.

>>159962753
But it's not like she will be very important or join Baam's team, the cast is too large already.

>>159957045
Didn't you see Hockney's prediction? Someone will be close to death

>>159956043
>Yuri is like a sister

She definitely doesn't want to be like a sister.

>>159962887
She's pretty strong, she's probably stronger than all of the regular cast we've seen so far minus Baam. Although the two princesses, Maria and the two princess factions don't count since we haven't seen them fight much

>>159963060
Androssi's stronger.
It's just with Kaiser she sets the playing field before the fight starts so everything's in her favor. She won't have as much as an advantage now that she's no longer ruler of the Name Hunt station and such.

>Jyu Viole Grace
>Jew Viole Grace
>Baam steals everyone's exclusive shinsoo abilities in one try
>Goes full "Oy Lahel it's like anudda shoah" whenever his friends are hurt

>>159963170
>when Baam is so good now that he doesn't even do that anymore

>>159963170
>anudda shoah

This is the kind of cancerous gook that reads gookshit

>>159963170
Nah, Rachel is the jew one. She has been jewing all people she met, left and right. Except Headon, because he is the jewest of all.

>>159962589
Arlene's family name is Grace, and I imagine V's family name was Jue.

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>>159963509
Welcome to /a/, enjoy your stay newfag.

>>159957921
I like Karaka as a villain so much, at first glance he is your typical stoic edgelord, but the more screentime he gets the more tiny details of his personality are revealed, which really add up to his character.

>>159963671
He and White make an entertaining pair.

>>159963671
>muh brother
>muh Slayer/God
>muh undying skill
>muh no one likes me because of the mask

>>159963801
>muh no one likes me because of the mask

Nobody cared who he was until he put on the mask.

>>159948979
I blame that guy and the little girl for the death of Akraptor and Prince
Those two with the glasses girl i honestly don't know why are still alive.
Also fuck SIU for making me belive Akraptor is Anak's father

>>159948510
He probably trusts that Casano will go and wake up Horyang, so he didn't bother.
Rachel was a more immediate concern.

>>159964107
Speaking of Akraptor, Baam still doesn't know Rachel killed him huh.

>>159950274
>It's only "rebel" portions of FUG that are against him, after all.

Yeah people seems to forget that, but the majority of FUG still want Viole to be their slayer

>>159964107
>fuck SIU for making me belive Akraptor is Anak's father
Fuck yourself for being so stupid. Anak explicitly stated that her father was killed by a princess.

>>159964201
I don't think he ever will or even cares about Akraptor.

>>159950274
I don't think Xiaxia was ever actually part of FUG? She was just working with them for $$$. Though, it does seem like she bought into some of the ideology about Slayers granting wishes like some kind of God, especially since it seems the whole reason Xiaxia is such a jew is because her race is in trouble and needs the resources.

>>159954438
10/10 would want to see this as the actual finale

>>159964336
Another personal favorite is that she will reach the very top of the tower, and then be thrown off it.

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I just want Phantaminum to appear and spoil the entire story already. The main storyline is boring.

>>159964107
Akraptor and Prince knew what they were in for when they teamed up with a guy from FUG. They could have died at any moment and they did.

>>159957701
The statues on the first floor confirms that, and they also confirms that Rak is not fully "mature" yet

This isn't specifically tower of God relatedness but when will Koreans learn to create internal consistency and avoid 4th wall breaks in their manhwa? There's constant things like references to earthquakes and other literal "our world" stuff and it's terrible. I thought that a main premise was that for all intents and purposes everyone except irregulars was born and lived in the tower, never seeing or understanding "outside".

It's fucking irritating how many manhwa have bad writing on top of their ever present inability to panel without 20x as much white space as they need.

>>159964625
I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>159964625
Line translates stuff like Earth and what not, it's just an English thing. Also, what's wrong with "our world"? It's pretty obvious there's something that's up that we don't know because we only hang around the Regular's Areas.

>>159964625
Oh also does anyone else hate Korean naming schemes lot or am I just racist or what. Joona sun Woon or whatever is just so irritating to me for some reason. Also x2 Koreans seem to do the 4 heavenly bosses etc stuff WAY too much, I see it in 90% of manhwa regardless of genre

>>159964329
>Fuck yourself for being so stupid. Anak explicitly stated that her father was killed by a princess.

Only to then show another flashback of a whit haired man running with Anak

>>159964648
>>159964662
Saying stuff like "what on earth" makes no sense unless they refer to the tower as earth

>>159964691
Now you're just being stupid.

>>159964691
>"what on earth" makes no sense

I think you are a bit confused

>>159923387
This is so fucking garbage but I enjoy reading it because so much comes out every week

>>159964672
You're just racist, anon. If you were as exposed to korean names as Japanese names, it would be no problem. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

>>159964705
The tower is xx number of near infinite space floors where there aren't windows and everyone is born inside. What is "earth"?

They should say something like "what on the tower?" or something about "what on the floors?"

Fugg ::Dd

>>159964710
Read ringworld by Larry niven. It has similarly impossibly large numbers of humanoids and they all end up thinking they love on an arch due to the nature of how a ringworld would look from its surface. You get sayings that reflect your setting if you aren't a hack writer

>>159964725
>What is "earth"?

The dirt beneath their feet, in the case of an earthquake. The world around them otherwise. Your suggestions are far more distracting than perfectly everyday idioms. That'd be like those annoying twats who say "oh my goddess".

>>159964759
It tried to read it, but it was appalling garbage and I had to quit it pretty quickly.

>>159964672
Well, I agree about names, Korean names are almost impossible to remember because they feel so "impersonal", they feel generic and don't reflect their bearer at all (unlike Japanese ones). Good thing that in two manhwas I'm reading (Noblesse and ToG) most characters have western names. But when I was reading Breaker I couldn't even remember MC's name, much less any other.

>>159964783
>reads manhwa at webcomic level and thinks it's good compared to a novel

>>159964804
If you look at my post real carefully, you'll notice that I didn't say anything like that. And by real carefully, I mean if you look at it at all.

>>159964725
>>159964759

Who is born in the tower knows that he is born in the tower but doesn't know anything else beside the tower therefore the tower is his world.
If Mars was inhabited you think the marians would call it in a way that is related to the color of the planet or they would call it in with something similar to earth, like we did, since it's the only thing they know?
For the people of the tower, the tower is the earth, like for us this planet is the earth, and yet we dont say stuff like "what on the planet" or "what on the giant rock"

>>159964905
They know they live in a tower because the guardians do interact with the people of the tower and know they are in a tower, and because people from the outside are their leaders. All of the ten great family leaders are irregulars from the outside, and the ten great family leaders, and Zahad basically created the entire system by which the people in the tower live, and are a primary factor in the culture of the tower.

>>159965002
The anon you're replying to didn't deny that they know they're in a tower - in fact, he specifically said that they know:
>Who is born in the tower knows that he is born in the tower

Literally the first line.

>>159930486
>13 warriors
Also what about that guy who drawn the story of the climbing on his sword (the one used by Yuri) he is not one of the 10 families, i wonder how many there were

>>159965062
At this point is pretty clear that the guy doesn't read the posts or just ignore what he dont like

>>159965090
It's pretty obvious that Zahard and Co got help along the way once they met people on the floors and also allowed people on the floors to meet each other.

>>159964686
That looked to be a Silver Dwarf guide, like Evan. Anak's dad was presumably already dead by then.

>>159964691
>>159964725
"Earth" is Dirt. The Tower has a lot of earth in it, anon.
We call our world "Earth" because it's made of dirt (at least that's how ancient people see it)
It's not unusual that the usual inhabitants of the tower would come to call their world "Earth", or some variation of that, and then a phrase like that would just spread. Not to mention, it's been said that some Kingdoms exist in the Outer Tower that know hardly anything about Jahad or the inner tower, and just sort of have their own cultures.

Regardless, this seems to be a translation thing anyways, as I don't think Korean has this exact phrase, word for word. Translating it to "what on earth?" is just more natural than "what in the tower?"

>>159965220
It's exactly a translation thing. Phrases like "What on Earth" and what not usually have nothing to do with the original language and are just the best translation for the phrase. Like the phrase "一体" in Japanese is literally translated as one body. But can also by used to mean "what the hell".

I don't know Korean too well, but I doubt the phrase is literally the same, simply the best substitute.

>>159964672
But a lot of the names used in ToG are occidental names, anon. Considering how SIU seems like a westaboo and always uses reference to name their characters.

>>159926005
He was called the Prince of the Red Light District by Hwa Ryun, whatever that means.

>>159966564
Honestly would love some chapters about Wagnan only, without Baam and his "chosen one" plot.

>>159966754
He did that in the first two arcs of Season 2, but they had to give Baam the spotlight sooner or later. To be fair Wangnan needs some love, he is basically the same person he was at the beginning, plus he is still too weak. He seriously needs a power up.

>>159967241
Zahard blood activation for Wangnan soon. I can see it.

>>159967241
I wonder if he is kind of like a vague parallel to Rachel, where he has to use other people to climb the Tower--at least for now. However, Wangnan actually cares about the people he is with and they tend to become friends, instead of purely subordinates.

>>159967591
I think is a parallel to both Baam and Rachel. They always have had overpowered teammates, including geniuses, prodigies, princesses, people with overpowered weapons, and so on.
Wangnan is quite the opposite, he always have climbed with underdogs and people with no special abilities, with few exceptions, of course.

>>159968179
Oooo that's a good way of looking at it.

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Man, I really miss Baam's original team. Especially this fucker.

>>159924568
really complicated shinsu

>>159969755
Don't expect to see them until after the Hidden floor arc. Can't think of any conceivable way for them to appear for the next arc

>>159970575
Yea, they'll probably appear again during the Princess arc.

Why is Gustang so handsome?

>>159970670
Because you're fucking gay

>>159967241
but he threw pokeballs at the guy with two wings

>>159924568
From what the titan instructor said magic is suggested to be an individual ability that you have outside of the tower, and controlling shinsu is apparently what you can do if you had magic outside the tower.
All of the families walked into the tower with magic in the first place and were able to master high level shinsu, he compared it to instead of using the system to more like realizing you already had control of it.
That would explain why even the very best have a huge problem controlling shinsu, they aren't the special people. Which makes Baam even more infuriating because he's special on top of being special eight times over already.

>>159966754
At some point he had to end in the rice pot before the virtual plane or something like that, even Kuraka seems to have found something in the train

>Gooks

>>159955323
There are spoilers already?

>>159973972
pay2view raws are like 3 weeks ahead

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>>159974658

>>159974658
>This is real

3 chapter ahead indeed, if anyone want to see it:

http://www.manhwa-manga.ml/search?q=Tower+of+God

>>159924579

how can he ever recover?
>>159924675
>>159924986

>>159961342
>>159961384
>the MY PREY! catchphrase suddenly acquires a different meaning

>>159955323
Oh shit! Androssi is fucked.

Baam should just give Androssi the D already.

Is this a good manga or is it SAO tier?

>>159977746
>manga

>>159977746
it's pretty ok for being a webtoon desu

Is Rachel dead yet?

>>159975361
I can't read korean but from the look of it looks like SIU is putting a big red flag on Yuri, he is giving to her a lot of space

>>159978314
Nope she is also getting a new power that makes her already on par with Androssi

>>159977746
It's really good for the most part but it's still essentially a battle 'manga', so if you don't like the genre it's probably not for you.

>>159969755
>missing Ship

About every 6 months I have to remind myself by reading the wiki who he is.

>>159970927
>help the protagonist is special!

What series can you even read if you hate this kind of thing?

>>159978919
Even if you power her up to administrator level, the only thing keeping her alive is Baam's will. The day that Baams gives the green light to kill the bitch, half tower will jump on her, Koon leading.

>>159979493
How cool would it be if Urek give Rachel a 100% slap and evaporates her

>>159981037
Urek doesn't hit ladies. He is a gentleman.

>>159981124
No one talked about ladies.

>>159978919
>on par with Androssi
Yeah the invisible shark thing is probably even stronger.

>>159981124
Urek is made for being bullied, particularly by cute girls.

>>159982861
>when you're so strong that everyone bullies you, but you try to fit in anyways

>>159923572
That's what i thought but for his data to be there he would need to beat the hell train right?

>>159977746
It's a manhwa and I'd say it's better than 90% of shounen japs shit out

>>159984000
I remember hearing something like
>but what does it mean to beat the hell train?
which we actually don't really know.