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Dozo!
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>>159895602
He is big guy.
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Why does he wear the mask?
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Those are not the subs I ordered.
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>>159895602
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>>159896121
To fight oppressors.
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>>159896121
Because it placed on him by oppressors and it would be extremely painful to take off.
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>>159896199
Hes a big guy
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So say Gilgamesh popped in randomly, could he solo both sides?
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>>159895602
Employment is tyranny.
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>>159895602
Have a best girl.
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>>159895602
This was a good episode, to conclude, I would like to say that we all want an anime original ending where Astolfo wins the MCbowl.
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>>159896234
Gil is the ultimate tyrant, he has no chance against Spartacus.
Jokes aside, Gil could theoretically trample both sides, that's his schtick, but because that's a boring plot he would end up getting cocky and would end up losing.
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>>159896301
No
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>Astolfo, to rub dirt over the wound acts more like a woman than a man, Astolfo runs around excitedly while he is with the MC. To add in, Astolfo does not believe in fighting the Great Holy Grail War since he sees a second life for a chance to do more good in the world, this is why he saved MC's life by whom he fell in love at first sight and took him to Chiron in order to save his life. Even taking care and the full responsibility of the MC, Astolfo is similar to a teenage girl who discovered love for the first time.
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>>159896301
But she isn't Astolfo.
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>>159896234
The rare, almost mythical Serious Gilgamesh probably could.

However, we all know that's never how it goes.
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>>159895447
>Red side
Shishigo: Master of Mordred. Competent as fuck necromancer who is smart enough not to trust Shirou.
Shirou: Master of every other Red Servant. Drugged all the other Masters and basically gets them to give him their Command Spells. 60 years of preparation.

>(Good) Black side
Fiore: Actually a pretty good Master. As strong as Shishigo, but only her personality of being more human than magus is a downside in the war.
Caules: Actually a pretty good Master. Perfect personality fitting for a magus, only held back by his extremely third-rate circuits and fairly weak Servant.
Assassin's Master: Not even a mage, doesn't give a fuck about the war. Kind of a nice person at least.

>(Retarded) Black side
Darnic: So retarded that he literally does the one thing that forces every Servant on both sides to team up against him.
Gordes: So retarded that Siegfried literally kills himself just to get away.
Celenike: Accomplishes literally nothing aside from getting killed by Mordred and cucked by Sieg.
Roche: Accomplishes nothing aside from having the most ironic death of any Master in Apoc.
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>>159896221
For you.
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>>159896258
Thats why he aims to surpass his boss Nero and become the greatest producer in the world, freeing his company from the oppressive hands of the roman emperor
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Muh dragon dick
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>>159896234
>could he solo both sides?
No even serious Gilgamesh couldn't solo both sides by himself. He'd have enough trouble with Karna, let alone the others.
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>>159895602
I shall protect Bestzerker's smile!
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UTW here, I decided to drop this show due to lack of interest on my own part.
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>>159896612
thanks
Pretty much expected this aside from the Assassin's master.
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Do Go Lion and Mordred die near the end or does a lot of stuff happen afterward?
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>>159896769
T-thanks
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>>159896234
Not likely. Gil is estimated to be about as strong as 5 average servants. If he were in serious mode he could potentially solo one side but soloing both sides is pretty unlikely.
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>>159896802
They kill Semi, but Kairi gets fatally poisoned. Moedred decides to die broing it out with him instead of finding a new master.
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>>159896234
Karna is the only roadblock. Gil just needs to wait until Karna runs out of fumes and then it's smooth sailing from there.
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>>159896612
>Assassin's Master: Not even a mage, doesn't give a fuck about the war. Kind of a nice person at least.
>nice person
How is she a nice person?
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>>159896852
Didn't urubochi say that if Gil was serious in F/Z, he could finish the HGW in one night?
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>>159896612
Roche: Accomplishes nothing aside from having the most ironic death of any Master in Apoc.
How does he die?
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>>159896940
Yes. Soloing 7 servants is possible for Gilgamesh. Soloing 14 though is probably not possible, especially when we have someone like Karna on the other side.
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>>159896463
I think he belongs with Roland.
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>>159896990
Avicebron uses him as the core of his NP.
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>>159896897
Fundamentally, she isn't a bad person. She just has no morals, so in resolving herself to help Jack completely goes full killer. Had she never met Sagara, she would have just lived as a normal prostitute.
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UTW updating never
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>>159896234
Only if he 1v1 all of them.
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>>159897126
Is he the strongest after all?
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>>159896234
Karna, Achilles, Siegfried, Chiron and Vlad will be his toughest opponents.
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>>159896234
Definitely not. Vlad alone could Kazikli Bay him from the inside and that's the end for him.
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>>159896990
>“Feel free to condemn and reproach me. Certainly, you have shown me respect and worship. It was no lie that the affection you displayed towards me was most comforting.”
>However, consider this.
>“I despise humanity. I weary of this world. I abhor seeing eye to eye with anyone to the point of donning a mask. I cover my entire self in all my sickness. How did you possibly reach the conclusion that I would not plot to betray you?”

As he uses Roche as the core of his NP, the perfect golem.
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>>159897385
Vlad, stop shitposting on /a/ and go win the fucking Holy Grail War.
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>>159896463
>whom he fell in love at first sight
Astolfo supports Jeanne/Sieg
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>>159897420
In all seriousness anon, how can Gilgamesh defend himself against that? Gilgamesh doesn't have an insane armour NP like Karna.
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>>159897385
NOT HOW IT WORKS. GOTTA STAB THEM WAY UP CLOSE WITH HIS DICK FIRST
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>>159897506
>Gilgamesh doesn't have an insane armour NP like Karna.
Gilgamesh probably has something like that within his treasury.
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>>159897455
>Astolfo supports Jeanne/Sieg
LEL
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>>159895602
>Still no sub
Horriblesub, come on
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>>159897506
Can't do inside stabbing unless he stabs them with his personal lance first. Not happening against Gil.
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>>159897506
>Gilgamesh doesn't have an insane armour NP like Karna.
He literally has the armor that lets him shrug off most noble phantasms and if he was in serious mode he'd be wearing it. Plus he probably has an even stronger defense barrier in his treasury.
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>>159897663
>horriblesubs
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>>159897592
>>159897683
He has a lot things in his treasury but can only use it if he even remembers its there.
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>>159897802
>falling for obvious bait
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>[SemiramisAnon] Fate Apocrypha - 03 [720p] [x264].mp4

Subs, but are they good?
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>>159897647
He's just teasing her.
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>>159897842
Probably not as good as [meta] subs.
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>>159896940
Yes but it's not like they'd all band together to stop him
at least not in time
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>>159897455
>>159897647
Thanks for posting the ESLfag translation make by a ESLfag
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>[UTW]_Fate_Apocrypha_-_03_[h264-720p][DEB2911C].mkv
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>>159897842
Anything is better than Unlimited Turtle Works
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>>159897388
poor kid
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It's out.
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>>159898047
Fake
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>>159898097
https://utw.me/2017/07/16/fateapocrypha-03/
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>>159898047
Aw yis
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Sieg is ridiculously cute.
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>>159898181
It's kinda creepy that both groups are releasing within like 15 minutes of each other. I honestly thought your link was bait, because I checked the site 5 minutes ago, but decided to take it anyway.
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>>159898262
just commie memeing probably.
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>>159898047
motherfuckers, I just checked 2 minutes ago
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>>159898244
Calm down, Astolfo.
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>>159897455
>>159897647
>Astolfo is a friendly trap, and the MC is oblivious of it. So he doesn't mind Astolfo sleeping in the same bed as him, Astolfo taking off his clothes while asleep, espousing and kissing him all the time.
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>>159898181
Seeding at 50 megabit, get it while it's hot.
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>>159895602
アル?
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>>159898244
soft hair like Kumiko
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Full OP faggots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAkz5yRu0RI
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>>159898339
Maxing out here.
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Best girlfriend material in the last two years
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>>159898416
>not available in burgerland
Damn jews
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>>159898416
OP is kind of shit.
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>>159896234
That depends, does he put effort into it like when he met Enkidu in Strange Fake? He'd stomp without even needing Ea, the GoB used to it's fullest is incredibly strong. Without bringing in shit like GO, there are like 2 servants who can put up a proper fight against serious Gil, one being Enkidu, and the other being non-Berserker Heracles, though the latter still isn't as strong as him.

If he doesn't put effort into it, it depends.
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>Blushing over a monster
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>>159898985
>Without bringing in shit like GO, there are like 2 servants who can put up a proper fight against serious Gil, one being Enkidu, and the other being non-Berserker Heracles, though the latter still isn't as strong as him.
Also Karna.

I'm not being a fag for him here, just pointing out that Karna's directly said to be practically equal to Gilgamesh plenty of times between CCC and Extella, and he's to date the only Servant besides Enkidu that he's ever immediately been wary of the moment he saw them.
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Gordes is precious
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>Aka no Lancer
>Lancer of Black

BRAVO UTW
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>>159897061
>>159897388
Anyone that couldn't see this from ep1 is retarded
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Are you fucking kidding me? He's not supposed to tell anyone his name.
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>>159899196
>Anyone that couldn't see this from ep1 is retarded
Well this is the first time I found out his name and that he's a master. Thought he was just some random dude but his fate was obvious after that dialogue.
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>>159899264
>Master tells Siegfried not to reveal his name to his own allies
>Siegfried goes ahead and reveals his name to his enemies
Sumenai
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>>159896802
Near the end.
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>tfw will never have a gf like Astolfo
It hurts.
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>>159899067
In any other series, I would expect this guy to be some beta LN MC. Will these two mana transfer?
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>>159899264
Did the director just not even read the novels?
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>>159899312
>>159899264
They have to give him more lines because after a few more episodes Siegfried is gone.
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SOMEONE STOP THIS MADMAN
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>>159899452
Higashide himself is in charge of composition. He clearly wanted this change.
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>>159899494
I was really surprised how much I ended up liking Sparticus by the end.
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FrankxMegane OTP
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>>159899264
Tell me this dumbfuck gets stabbed in the back
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>>159899574
>>159899385
>>159899067
delete soda-kun
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This episode was over so fast, like wtf?
Wasn't a fan of Astolfo in the first(second) episode but he seems pretty cool here.
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>I suspect him to be Berserker
Gee what tipped you off
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These two are still the best
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>>159899385
he's just a Souta clone from Re:creators
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>mfw I see an opressor near me
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Was this translated by a different person? Fiore has referred to darnic as grandfather and uncle in the utw subs.
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i dont care if its canon or not, he is 100% gay to me, just as I am
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>>159899585
Rips out his own heart and gives it to the homunculus.
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>>159899854
mordred stinks
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>Achilles in the next episode

It's time
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>>159897361
>Siegfried
Would just be a repeat of Gil vs. Herc, the NPs inside Gate of Babylon can easily pierce
through Fafnir and Siegfried doesn't have 13 Lives to burn through.

>Achilles / Karna
Both have Divinity and are thus weak to Enkidu but might be too fast to be easily catched by it, both also have NPs capable of fucking Gilgamesh and they activate faster than Ea, though that point is debatable.

>Vlad
He might have a shot under Legend of Dracula during the night, it's tricky and versatile enough to fuck Gil over and I doubt Gil considers Vampire Vlad worthy of Ea.

>Chiron
Has to rely on distracting Gil away from his NP and even then Gil could just spam GoB against it to divert some of the shots. Can't see
Chiron winning here.
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>>159897388
Was he happy to be useful for manlet senpai?
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>Siegfried tells Karna his true name
>no Arjuna flashback
>Sieg walks off himself from the tanks
>bro as fuck hugging scenes between Astolfo and Sieg got deleted

WHY?!
For what purpose they changed it?
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>>159900048
>He might have a shot under Legend of Dracula

Not really since Gil has holy stuff in GoB
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>>159899820
It's not like irrationality/insanity is exclusive to that class.
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>>159899264
>Netherlands
>Some prince from Xanten that fucks around in Burgund
Bravo Japan
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>>159895602
subs when?
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Fabulous
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>>159900007
O MY VULNERABLE TENDON
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>>159900111
To be fair Karna did reveal his name first but that doesn't explain gordes not freaking out over him revealing his true name.
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These tracks though.
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>>159900048
>Would just be a repeat of Gil vs. Herc, the NPs inside Gate of Babylon can easily pierce
Armor of Fafnir works differently from Godhand.
The NPs would only scratch him
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UTW]_Fate_Apocrypha_-_03_[h264-720p][DEB2911C].mkv happened
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this episode looked so bad holy fuck
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kun kun
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I love playing at the beach with Altria's son!
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>>159900218
UTW is already out baka, has been nearly over hour
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>>159900218
Check the thread retard
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>>159900215
>I haven't read the Nibelungenlied


„Da wuchs im Niederlande / eines edeln Königs Kind. /

Siegmund hieß sein Vater / die Mutter Siegelind. /

In einer mächt'gen Veste / weithin wohlbekannt, /

Unten am Rheine / Xanten war sie genannt.“
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>>159900108
>“No… stop… please… don’t do this…! Help…! Save me…! Someone save me! Someone…! Anyone!”

>Anyone is fine! Just save me! Please! I won’t ask for any more! I’ve learnt my lesson! I’m sorry! Please forgive me! But who should I ask forgiveness from? What did I do wrong? No… please, wait. I’m scared. I don’t want to become a golem. I don’t. I just want to make them, I…

Nope.
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>>159900290
doesnt matter i want to be astolfo
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>>159900334
>Xanten
>Netherlands
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>>159900373
The entire Rhine area is the netherlands.
It's not refering to the modern country
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>>159900007
You're wrong
>第四話「望む」
Episode 4: Wishe
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>>159895602
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>>159900404
That's the point, Niederland shouldn't be translated as Netherlands
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>>159900457
>more astolfo shit
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>>159900293
Summer Mordred is just delicious
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>>159900511
>this is the only bit Astolfo has any appearances
fuck you my perfect self needs even more screentime
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At times like this I wish my basic installation of MPC allowed me to take screenshots with subs. I should probably get a codec pack or something. What's popular since KCP died?
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>>159899722
He is a cool person.
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The cutest.
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>>159900582
commit suicide
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>>159900587
(S)he sure is.
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>>159900635
>you will never look that good in a seifuku
kill me now
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>>159900635
Mordred makes nice JAVs!
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>>159896234
How long until gil tries to dick mordred so he can tell Arturia "your daughter calls me daddy too"
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>>159900612
The cutest. Too bad about what happens to her.
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>>159900635
>exploiting Mordy

Please no. She is too dumb to understand.
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>>159900595
VLC
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>>159900612
Frankenstein's monster
>made up of body parts from other people
>voiced by Ai Nonaka

Kafuka Fuura
>her body parts were given to other people
>voiced by Ai Nonaka
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>>159900632
I've been trying
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BUH- SA- KA
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Someone explain sumanai
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>>159900457
They skipped through that stuff, Sieg woke up already. It's going straight to battle and then escape.
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>>159900748
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>>159900491
That's literally the english word for Niederlande
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>>159900745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D-9X3ooFvo
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>>159900111
>animated Arjuna will only ever have 2 seconds of screentime in a shitty CM
I thought Nasu was supposed to like him
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>>159895602

Would he get along with Che guavara ?
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>>159896699
This. Karna and Mordred would be enough to keep him at least slightly busy, Sieg could be somewhat useful, and the Archers would be able to help quite a bit as well. He'd probably take out all the weaker servants, and one or two of the better ones, but he'd lose.
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>>159900279
How would the end result be different? Fafnir cancels out attacks from B rank Strength and reduces A-Rank Strength attacks to E-Rank but against NPs it works exactly like Godhand, it's a B+ almost fullbody armor that will get pierced by the A-Rank NPs in GoB.
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>>159900786
>>159900748

>>159899806
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Nasu is a fucking hack.
Decided to play Fate/Extra in my spare time to know more about UMU and fox ears.
This fucking bitch and her whole route is basically
>FUCK YOU READ FROM TSUKIHIME TO MELTY BLOOD FAGGOT
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>>159900635
>paying for porn
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So Mordred is pretty strong but her low luck fucks up her stats overall, right?
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>>159900788
But it's not Die Niederlande it's Niederland, translating it as The Netherlands is questionable at best.
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>>159900821
They're probably going to have the Arjuna flashback next episode, or whenever we get a proper scene with just Karna.

>>159900857
It doesn't suddenly lose the damage reduction. Its defensive capability ranks up to B+ in the case of an NP being activated and used against it, but it still subtracts the damage from it even if it's A rank. It'd take more spam to put Siegfried down, but Gil would only have to do it once.
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>>159900619
best girlfriend even
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>Siegfried wants to make people happy and prevent people from fighting each other over his gold
>gets his buddy to kill him in the hope that everyone will be friends afterwards for some reason
>this makes literally everyone miserable and many people end up dead in more or less brutal ways
>Siegfried says he regrets nothing
I think Siegfried might be an inadvertent asshole.
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>>159901027
boys make the best girls
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>>159900635
DELET
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>>159900635
Mordred sleeps with pigs!
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>>159901066
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>>159900935

'Da wuchs im Niederlande'

Translating it as (the) Netherlands is technically correct but at the time referred to the whole Lower Rhine area.
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>>159900821
You're not quite right. And besides, the America CM wasn't shitty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMu7YeuZEuU
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>>159901035
Siegfried is just a dummy
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>>159901027
Explain this fang to me. Is it an animation mistake? There is no way people think that makes sense.
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>these two don't win

What's the point?
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>>159901035
Sumanai
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>>159900937
>but it still subtracts the damage from it even if it's A rank. It'd take more spam to put Siegfried down, but Gil would only have to do it once.
So how is the end result any different than what I said? He gets impaled like Herc in the end.
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>>159900457
>Greatest love story ever told.
next episode
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>>159901149
They both got more out of this whole affair than most other characters.
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>>159901149
Comic relief and shounenbait
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>>159901035
They would get along.
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Please don't bully Siegfried. He's doing his best.
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AKASHIK RECORD TO WA
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>>159901184
Herk gets the full force of every attack with Rank A.
Meanwhile Siegfried reduces all the damage he takes. So an A-rank Attack is just a scratch
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>>159901184
If he stands there and does nothing, sure.
Presumably because between Siegfried's skill with a sword and his natural ability to shrug off most of the GoB spam, along with his swordbeam, he has a much better chance against Gil than Herc did.
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>>159900883
Dude, dude, listen. Nasu can't create anything new
>Tsuki is basically KnK recycle
>F/SN is his old project from school
>DDD is his old project
>Mahou is one if his oldest projects
>Notes is his old project
>F/HA is KT ripoff and use DDD ideas
>F/E use his old fate ideas
>F/CCC use DDD/HA ideas
>F/GO use ALL IDEAS and big part of Notes
>Tsuki remake will basically use Dark Six ideas
Why we will never see Mahou 2 and DDD? Because Nasu has no drafts for them. He just recycle and polish old ideas again and again
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>>159901035
I haven't read the OG text but from what I can gather, people were out for his blood, so he got himself killed so people would stop starting shit, issue is his Waifu was a little too loyal and ended up going full Avenger.

On that topic, Avenger Kreimhild when?
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>>159901149
No one really wins here.
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>>159901035
Please don't bully my cute baka wife
>>159901297
True but Herc has multiple lives, battle continuation A, and better Endurance without a glaring weak spot
It ends up the same
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>>159901321
>Kreimhild is a karnaface but female.
I'll meme this into reality.
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>>159901248
>tfw I powered up Siegfriendo in FGO presuming people were just memeing him.
>He was unironically less useful than Leonidas and Georgios.

Siegfried being shit breaks my heart.
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>Modred becomes shirou's servant instead of Artoria
How badly does it go?
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>>159901149
No one cares about them.
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>>159901300
If he uses Balmung the effect of Armor of Fafnir gets diminished, also his Agility is lower than Hercs, he'd get fucked like Herc did, the only question is if it takes longer to chip away at Siegfried or kill Herc 13 times.
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>>159901388
>Girls shouldn't fight!!
>Gets killed
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>>159901388
Wouldn't job against Hassan during HF.
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If someone had summoned Van Hellsing or any of the other hunters could they have taken on Vlad?
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>>159901388
It will either end in Shirou getting killed almost immediately by Mordred, or Shirou somehow using his maximum autism to help Mordred get over her daddy issues
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>>159901443
Pretty sure that was pointed out as a mistranslation somewhere on Beast's Lair, and that his defensive power increases when he's using Balmung instead. He's meant to be a moving fortress when he fights defensively, so it doesn't make sense to make him worse at defending if he's actively trying.
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>>159901388
They wouldn't get along well at all.
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>>159901388
probably would leave him for a better master since Shirou has shit tier circuits and his summoning being improper so she doesn't even get that
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Wait Jeanne gets two shotas?
oh
ohhhh
yes the doujins will be good
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Purest
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So was this show actually made JUST to be a waifufest particle effects battle where the best girl is actually a boy?
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>>159901447
this
wouldn't fucking work at all, personalities just clash way too fucking bad.
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>>159901388
conflicted over someone showing genuine care for her vs. her rage at being treated like a woman
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>>159901302
Fuck him, man.
At least in Fate Strange Fake they warn you in the first book that you need to read Tsukihime with sequels(dead apostles and shit), but here I'm halfway through the game and it heavily pushes ATLAS organization like I should know it,
I google it and >FUCK YOU PLAY MELTY BLOOD
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>>159901388
It goes poorly. His whiteknight faggotry comes into play and he treats her like a girl one too many times and ends up dying for it since Moe-dread doesn't think about her mana source and drops herself.

In saying that however, if you removed the personality issue then it would work pretty well since she wouldn't be able to use Clarent so she'd have to use her usual fighting style which is just wailing on cunts which would be mana-lite.
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PROVE YOU'RE NOT AN OPPRESSOR RIGHT NOW OR GET CRUSHED
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Why is Mandred so perfect?
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Is Astolpho a legit twink to not be getting off from Cellery's debauchery or is she just not as skilled as she thinks?
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>>159901388

90% chance she kills him outright

10% chance the jackhammer fixes everything
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>>159901559
I literally have no power over anyone at all
Barely even myself for that matter. Also I have the box set to Spartacus
>>159901604
And for Shirou 10% is nothing
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>>159901600
Astolfo fucked 600 women when he was alive. Of course he's not impressed.
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FUCKING CUTE
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Is this the ultimate jobber?
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>>159901615
Shirou wouldn't have Avalon to cheat with though. So he would actually die when killed.
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Damn he's fluffy.
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>>159901559
I don't have a job and I rarely go outside. I'm really not in a position where I can say I'm above anybody on the social ladder. I don't think I'm in a spot where I can rightly be accused of oppressing anyone.
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>>159901559
I'm at the bottom of my social hierarchy.
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>>159899965
If you're attracted to that you're not gay m8.
That's a girl.
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>>159901559
I don't have a single 5* servant in FGO.
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>>159901188
>Enter war as third-rate spare for his sister
>Was even considering quitting being a magus cause no future
>Convinces superior sister to give you family Magic Crest
>Enroll in top-tier teacher Waver's class

Caules got out pretty well from the war.
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>>159901559
Fight me, faggot.
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>>159901600
she smells like death
>Despite seeming to have a clear-cut appearance, her entire body reeks of blood due to acts such as kissing the innards used in her rituals. The stench of death that followed the magus was far too thick. She has probably been covered in blood and gore since she was born. She can use perfumes and wash herself from the smell of it, but death itself will never leave her.
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Why can't there be more girls like her in anime? It's just not fair
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>>159901673
He's sorry

Saber Sumanai will try his best
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>>159901673
He's never won a fight against a servant.
but he's also only lost like once against 5 of them. and even then he survived.
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>>159901673
He became an official meme, so yeah, I'd say he is.
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>>159901676
eh Heaven's Feel he didn't have it either
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>>159901673
He's very sorry.
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>>159901600
In the novel it's stated he likes pursuing women he wants when he wants and not being repeatedly hounded by a woman he's not interested in. He has no choice though.
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Could he take them?
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>>159901673
No. Herc NP's should be called Jobhand
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>>159901774
*when and how he wants
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>>159901791
If Jeanne didn't use La Pucelle.
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>>159896364
Literally this
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>>159901768
He did until Saber was killed and then he got archer arm
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>>159901673
Name a bigger loser than Siegfried.
>Inb4 me
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>>159901863
Kayneth ;_;
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>>159901791
Probably.
Jeanne is kinda medicore as an actual servant. and Sumanai vs Karna is basically 2 tanks hitting eachother with BB guns, any damage they take just gets healed up so they go on until they decide "fuck it, I'll see you tomorrow"
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>>159901791
To be honest, Jeanne very likely would've just used a Command Spell if things looked bad.
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MUH

MC

DICK
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>>159901863
The streaming faggot that made that post.
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Can anyone tell me what's up with these ear-breaking sound effects?
Why would they use these. So annoying.
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Strange Fake Jack is so much better than Apocrypha Jack
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>>159901673
He's never lost or won a fight to date, so no.

He's just sumanai
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>>159901791
If it wasn't for his mana problems he could steamroll the opposition quite easily.
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>>159901863
Kiritsugu, Kayneth, Kariya, Diarmuid, Shinji, Roman and some more that i'm probably forgetting.
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>>159901388
>shirou acts like a white knight
>she treats him poorly but is so overtaken by how useless he is that it wraps around and she ends up feeling sorry for him
>has an emotional talk with him about looking up to their fathers
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>>159901863
(you) or Avenger if you don't consider sticking your dick in Whoretensia pussy to be a negative thing.
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>>159901066
That's a cute piggy though.
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>>159899264
>The Netherlands
I'm Dutch and i have never heard of this guy. Looking him up on the internet ends with a german legend. The fuck is this
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For whatever reason, this anime seems so much worse than FSN or FZ.
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What is it about Berserker Masters that must equal tragedy?
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>>159901911
>Jeanne is kinda medicore as an actual servant.

Officially she's a top servant and considered very strong, not that the fans like this so they try to underplay her as weak or useless. "She's just a glorified cheerleader, she should be weak, fuck the french, so I'll just say she's weak".

>blocks an EX rank NP
>blocks EX rank STR using her own power.
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>>159897126
Karna can kick his ass.
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>>159901388
Assuming he doesn't trigger her and get killed:
Fake Assassin- Might not even need to fight if Mordred can just leap over the entrance to the temple like EMIYA, could probably beat him if she had room to maneuver.
Caster- Unless she can also modify Kuzuki's speed to match Mordred, its an even easier fight, Mordred just pulls back the moment he tries to use his technique on him and then slices him to pieces before bouncing over to Medea, and unless she can move quickly enough to surprise her with Rule Breaker its all over.
EMIYA- Can't recall if he was holding back against Seiba, but Mordred can probably match the speed Artoria needed a command seal for in the bridge fight during Hollow Atraxia without burning one. His melee technique is entirely around waiting for his opponent to make stupid mistakes, but I doubt he could endure a Mordred barrage long enough for an opening.
Gil- No Avalon, can't dodge Gate of Babylon if he throws any more then a few dozen at a time, so can't win unless he goes even more Full Retard then he usually does.
Berserker- No Excalibah, can't burn through his twelve lives, would need to get another servant to knock off a few like EMIYA in fate.
True Assassin- If he is working with the Shadow, Mordred is more then reckless enough to get baited like Lancer, and it would be a question if she is fast enough to avoid getting GRAILED. Otherwise another easy win.
Rider- Probably the match-up closest to how her father would fare , but something like the final fight with her in Fate would probably be easier because she wouldn't be pinned to the ground.
Lancer- Mordred has crappy Luck so it would be a question of when he unleashes his Gay Blog on her, then she almost certainly dies.
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>>159901673
>Never won a fight against another servant
>Never lost a fight to a singular servant either.
He's beaten Fafnir like 3 times now, but also lost to Jeanne Alter and her croonies of Vlad, Carmilla, Deon, Sanson and Martha.
He survived because Martha hid him though.

So like, his W/L isn't too bad, it's just that 90% of his fights end with someone retreating.
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>>159901863
Shirou and his random aspull powerups and Jesus's plot armor.
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>>159902043
It's advertising for F/GO and original F/A LN
Just a business. Nothing more
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>>159901923
She planned on it at first in the LN, but she realised he'd move too fast for her to get the words out if he tried to kill her again.
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>>159902043
>for whatever reason

Because the source material is bad, and the studio is bad.
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>>159901923
>To be honest, Jeanne very likely would've just used a Command Spell if things looked bad.
Can she control other servants with her command spells?
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>>159902069
>Blocks an EX rank NP
Holy shit Fafnir's breath is crazy then.
And sorry, let me clairfy, offensively she isn't too crazy.
She's kinda like saint George in that, on the defense she's fucking amazing and almost unstoppable, but when it comes to taking down other servants, the biggest threat she's downed was Lancelot as a berserker.
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>>159902068
Try making an anime where the MC is a Berserker Master without it ending tragically.
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>>159901933
>implying Apocrypha is worthy for downloads.
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>>159901388
I'd watch this AU

The whole "But you're a girl" thing may end up more violent than it did compared to Altria though. But I bet Mordred knows how to please a man better
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>>159902174
No shit, did you think they only controlled her or something. Its the point of Ruler class is controlling every servant in the war. Which is why Ruler is a very selective impartial class.
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>>159902174
She has 2 Command Spells per Servant. Technically, each Master could counter her 2 with their own, but it's a pretty big waste when they could just not provoke her in the first place.
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>>159901934
Please respond
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but that's fucking wrong.
Balmung was part of the treasure of the Nibelungs, Siegfried claimed after slaying the dragon.
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>>159902190
Just use Beowulf.
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>>159902214
Well I don't know shit about Apocrypha or Ruler class so.
>>159902228
I see, thanks.
>>159902246
Is it just bad sound encodes?
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>>159902043
It's because this anime just introduced a ton of characters without really making us care for anybody.
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>Producer:We have this famous historical character how can we put him in Fate while keeping the integrity of the lore?

>Nasu:What if we ignore 99% of his legend and turn him into a girl? Add some cooking scenes for good measure.
>Takeuchi: What if it looks like Saber but it's NOT actually saber?
>Higashide: Guys, guys, it's actually a trap or a loli. It's genius and never been done before.
>Sakurai: I suggest to make him an ikemen who does nice things for my self-insert.
>Urobuchi: Better yet, let's make him a bara and have him be the opposite of how he's usually depicted, because I'm a huge contrarian faggot.
>Narita: It's a character so mysterious not even I know what he's doing.

Kodaka is probably next. I wonder what genius idea he'll come up with.
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>>159901923
>To be honest, Jeanne very likely would've just used the dragon huge dick to masturbate.
I like it.
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>>159902278
He got it after "Solving" a dispute between kings right? they asked him to split up the treasure fairly but they felt cheated so they tried to kill him, so he killed them and took Balmung for himself.
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>>159902278
The lore has it as him receiving the sword first
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I don't like Jeanne because she's saint. Nothing good came from their god and faith except thousand corpses.
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>>159899484
He could speak internally as much as he wants, in this episode they are kinda fucked up everything with only one line of dialogue.
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>>159902379
Narita's method is the best though.
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>>159902043
So far I'm liking it more than Zero or FSN to be honest.
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>WHY DOES NOBODY RESPECT ME REEEEEE
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>>159902412
Then you are going to like her when she abandons god for dragon dick.
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>>159902412
Look at this Chaosfag. I bet you enjoy sucking Oni dick, faggot.
What? Do you think you'd be the kind of person who could survive and thrive?
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How many people raped her before execution?
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>>159902412
>I don't like a cute girl because my fedora's too tight
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I feel like you skipped over a couple of important bits here
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>>159902412
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>>159902453
Should have summoned a Servant more appropriate for his stature.
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>>159902479
Gilles de Rapemachine
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>>159902479

None. They checked.
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>>159902479
Zero (0)
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>>159902483
>liking used goods
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>Remember Jeanne isn't a great fighter but fap waifu material for waifufag
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>>159902321
Not sure thought everyone has that issue.
In the Karna vs. Sieg fight all these explosions, is what I meant.
Kind of a deafening sound you know what I mean?
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>>159895602
why does a guy has the voice of a girl?
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>>159902534
>>159902536
Do you really believe this?
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SF is the superior spin off, discuss.
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>>159902084
EMIYA did that because Fake Assassin let him, speedwatcher
>>159901768
It's the only reason he survived Herk in day 3, secondary
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>>159902412
She said fuck off to God and went in not-Avalon to rejoin Sieg who is now a dragon, that's where the dragondick meme come from
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>>159902435
Narita and Urobuchi are the best at it. The others aren't even trying.

If Kodaka wrote for Fate, it could be pretty popular too. I think it's bound to happen, since they're friends with the guy.
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>>159902068
Reminder that Caules was a terrible Master

>Command Spell 1: Calm down from being fucked up by Shakespeare's illusion.
>Command Spell 2: Full power sneak attack against Saber (dented her armor, but nothing else)
>Command Spell 3: Full power Noble Phantasm to kill Saber (kills self, Saber survives from her own Master's CS)

RIP Frank.
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>>159902620
Stop false flagging nigger.
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>>159902554
Meant to say "isn't it".
Yeah I get what you mean. I thought that's just how it was captured from the TV broadcast. I would assume once we get legal online streams and blurays the sound would be better.
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>>159902650
Good thing that only happens in one universe.
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why doesn't he just watch the anime then?
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>>159902363
I only care about Semitits's circle and don't give a shit about the rest of the characters.
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>>159900111
Because Higashide is a shit.
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>>159902620
ISIS-chan is cute! CUTE
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>>159902614
There was already an entire thread about this shit. There's no real reason to deny the heavily scrutinized trial records.
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>>159896940
To be fair nearly every F/Z servant was powerful but unbelievably fucked by having a shitty master preventing them from fighting at their full.
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>>159902608
Astolfo is one of the main heroines alongside Jeanne, he is the MC's servant and one of the MC's love interests alongside Jeane too.
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>>159902547
The official reason given for why she was put to death was because she didn't get raped.
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>>159902388
This happened after the Dragon, that's the first thing he does after leaving the smith his parents sent him to.

The two brothers were fighting over their inheritance and he murdered them with Balmung. Then he took the invisibility cloak from the dwarf Albrecht. After that he arrives in Burgundy and the whole "Siegfried goes to iceland and beats up an innocent woman while invisible so his best friend can marry her so Siegfried can marry his best friend's sister" plot starts.
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>>159902790
>There's no real reason to deny the heavily scrutinized trial records.
They can't said truth because of public outrage. She's not some random criminal
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>>159902686
universe displayed by anime
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>an indian character
>speaking french
>in what is a japanese-to-english translation
[UTW], please rename yourself into [Commie].
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>>159902868
I'm pretty sure he had Balmung before killing Fafnir.
>>
Around blacks never relax
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>>159902868
Weird how such a powerful weapon was in some incompitent kings hands huh?

On another note, When is Sumanai going to get his invisibility cloak? He'd be busted.
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>he he he
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>>159902734
What is so special about root? Why does every mage want to reach it?
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>>159902926
The Dragon is the first thing on Siegfried's journey.
The only reason he could even fight the two brothers was the invincibility he got from the Dragon Blood.

>>159902971
>Weird how such a powerful weapon was in some incompitent kings hands huh?
Balmung isn't all that strong, it's just really a unfair weapon. The sword just does what you tell it to do.
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>>159902912
What does he say in Japanese then? All I hear is "kaku(mo)".
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>>159903026
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Swirl_of_the_Root

> a metaphysical location within the Nasuverse that acts as the "force" that exists at the top of all theories in every dimension, as well as the source of all events and phenomena in the universe. It is also referred to as the "Outside of the World," as opposed to the World and the Reverse Side of the World. Existing outside of time, it stores and archives information of all possibilities and events, past, present, and future, of the world. It is the place from where all souls, including those of Heroic Spirits recorded on the Throne of Heroes, originate from and to where they return after death.

>Seeing the Root, touching it and then managing to understand it will completely erase the meaning of "impossible", granting the magus what some would describe as "the capabilities of God".[3] Needless to say, this is impossible for even the most talented magi.
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>>159903026
Because unlimited power.

But really, it's because mages are shit.
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>>159903085
It's usually translated into En garde but literally it's like "be prepared". It's what you hear people say before they're about to fight
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Would you summon High Quality servant? Do you have enough power for mana transfer with her?
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>Want to watch for necrobro and Mordred with a side of le scheming holy man
>Know all screentime will go into FGO pandering and Jeanne/Astolfo blabbing about MC and dragon dick
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>>159902069
Jeanne a shit
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>>159902379
shows what you know

>4Gamer: Did the writers get to pick which Servants they’d be in charge of?

>Nasu: We decided on who would get certain Servants at a meeting. Servants were given out based on the convenience of managing them rather than the writer’s choices. But there were also traits that weren’t decided on by the writers, like Takeuchi saying, “I want Ushiwakamaru to be a girl!” I asked him, “Why?” and he replied with a complicated expression, “The male-to-female ratio is too stilted. It’s not appealing enough if it’s all guys.” “Oh, like usual, huh?” (laughs) But that really did turn out to be an important factor for FGO.

>4Gamer: Well… That’s just like Takeuchi to say that. (laughs)

>Nasu: After that, the three of us would discuss and come up with the backgrounds for each Servant, like coming up with a plausible excuse based on their legends for turning some of the Servants into women.

>4Gamer: Even though there are so many Servants coming out, their backgrounds still faithfully reflect many aspects from their respective legends. How long does it take to produce a single Servant?

>Nasu: Once we decide on a Heroic Spirit we want to bring out, it takes around 4 months to look up reference materials. That’s why Sakurai and Higashide bought so many books, especially back in 2015. When we want to bring out a Servant, we also want to show a part of their story that we want readers to be intimately familiar with. We hold pride in being careful not to simply borrow their names.

Takeuchi is the reason for every genderbend
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>>159902964
so none of these drugged out fucks ever becomes a character, they just stay in Shirou's closet drugged out of their minds for the duration of the war?
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new thread >>159901908
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>>159903138
Ah, okay. How do you write it?
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I'm just watching this for Mordred

Can someone make a webm of her sulking rolling on the ground?
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>>159896234
Achilles looks like as OP as Gil, may be even more.
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>>159903245
There's another like 150 posts left you dumbfuck
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>>159896234
he jobed against fucking Shiro
you sure jest
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>>159903191
>You couldn't even single-handedly stave off a mad dog running around on the battlefield

Who is he referring to?
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>>159903245
>this is /a/ 2017
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>>159903245
>not even bump limit

Is there a more cancerous fanbase than Astolfofags?
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>>159903254
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>>159896463
gay as fuck
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>>159903167
I also want to do that, Higashide
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>>159903174
Except stuff has already been cut from the main trio scenes and it's been evenly divided so far but keep being retarded I guess.
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>>159903191
savage
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>>159903271
>Invulnerability doesn't work against Gil
>super speed made moot by Enkidu
>his chariot isn't faster than vimana
>Duel Field is a literal meme
>Kosmos is weak to Ea

He's fucked.
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>>159903293
MC = god, it doesn't count. Power levels are worthless when you literally have the backing of god (the writer).
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>>159903297
Blue dog. He gay bulges her in Extella.
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>>159903328
Perfect, thanks
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>>159903328
as a knight shouldn't she be dressing more modestly

I'm not complaining, but she is a goddam Arthurian Knight
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>>159903239
Yes, thank black jesus for it.
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>>159900373
>>159900404
>>159900491
>you will never be this retarded
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>>159902854
Unless you stretch the definition of "official" to mean something other than what literally any printed dictionary will tell you it means, you're wrong.
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>>159900242
you are kidding that his tendon fucks him up on this too
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>>159896234
Gilgamesh was never even portrayed as the secret boss who can solo and win shit in Fuyuki.
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I know jack shit about history so did Jeanne d'Arc ever actually do anything or was she just a morale booster that everyone started worshiping?
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>>159902964
so those are the other masters on the red team?
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I want to marry this mermaid
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>>159896940
And Nasu said Diarmuid could have won that war, besides don't take Butcher as an authority on the matter. Nasu more recently said that Gilgamesh, even as serious, stalemates against a serious and ungimped Artoria.
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>>159901388
>Mordred rapes Shirou in that cuckshed
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>>159902553
My boy Gille de Rais had good taste in waifus.
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>>159900141
I think he me more about the whole spikes exploding out of the target thing
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>>159903558
>Nasu more recently said that Gilgamesh, even as serious, stalemates against a serious and ungimped Artoria.
Author or not I don't believe that
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>>159903552
The very same.
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>>159903384
BRRRAAPPPPFFFT
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>>159903490
What do you think?
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Came for Jeanne stayed for Mordread. Didn't expect her to be this fun.
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>>159902620
Ask me again in 5 years when they're finally finished with introducing all the characters.
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>>159903535
She was a cheerleader.
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>>159903535
learned about her in the 5th grade. Unacceptable.
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>>159903354
And what is your excuse for Sakura then? Or Saber? You Gilfags are the worst kind of powelevel fags which is hilarious since in damn nearly every single appearance he gets his shit pushed in
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>>159903026
Absolutely nothing, just ignore these obnoxious megane-kunfags and move on.
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>>159903641
schizophrenic cheerleader
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So if all the servants are already sanic fast how are they going to animate Achilles?
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>>159903583
She has a less jobbing record than he does. Keep in mind Gil's draft character concept is basically "Lesser than King Arthur."
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>>159901791
In terms of power, yes. But the thing about these OP servants is they have terrible gas mileage, so to speak. Consumes mana at a huge rate.
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>>159903703
is Achilles a gay?
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>>159903535
She was very good at realizing the benefits of artillery on mass.
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>>159903535
just waifufag material
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>>159903774
He wants to fuck this cat
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>>159903852
>someone you control cucked achilles
feels good man.
Fuck Achilles.
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>>159903852
Achilles has the most superior of tastes

Sasuga
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I don't know anything about Apocrypha. From what I've read most people think that Sieg is a shit character. What about Jeannu? Since they're main characters, is she at least decent?
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>>159903890
Fuck off Hector
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>>159903535
Shes a dragon dick worshiper.
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>>159901673
very sumanai
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>>159903912
Saints can't be decent by default.
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>>159903912
Jeanne jeanne's are very decent.
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>>159903917
>Without his mommy buffs Achilles is only better than Kektor by a "Hairs width"
Stay cucked Onionhead.
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>we'll never get a SoL with just Kairi and Mordred doing stuff
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>>159903305
gilfags
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>>159903912
Stereotyped anime girl with big breasts focused on MUH MC dick
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>>159903998
this

he's not even in this anime
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I want to protect his fluff
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>>159896612
>Darnic

Darnic was put into a no-win situation and bet on the only course of action that could potentially produce a chance of victory. The Red Faction had just managed to hijack the Greater Grail using the Hanging Gardens, which forced the Black Faction on the offensive. Vlad lost his fame boost and was about to get killed by Karna; calling him back with a Command Spell would be pointless since it would result in a general retreat and allow the Red Faction to get away with the Greater Grail.

What do you think he should have done to not be classified as "retarded?"

>Roche

He made the mistake of crossing the line from trusting his Servant to revering his Servant. This would not normally have been a problem, but Avicebron is a misanthrope who doesn't give a damn. It's dumb but understandable.
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>>159903982
>removed all his buffs because Hector was a shitter and he still won
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>>159903467
Heresy, due to cross dressing and having short hair.
Her hair was short because of battlefield practicality and she wore mens clothing to deter rape, both of which were cleared by the church, but it didn't matter because the English were looking for literally any reason to kill her in order to break the French.
Cross dress to deter rape -> executed for cross dressing. If you only include cause and effect, then yes she was literally put to death for not being raped.
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>>159903986
>I really want you to fap to me
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>>159904024
well, fuck...
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>>159903912
She's decent when she isn't interacting with Sieg.

>Walks straight into Black side stronghold
>Vlad rages to all hell when she refuses to join him
>Basically tells him to fuck himself
>No fear whatsover, despite being surrounded on almost all the Black Servants

>Next chapter
>Meets Sieg
>Suttering and blushing like a schoolgirl
>All hints of badassery shown previously completely gone
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>>159903583
>I don't believe Avalon is fucking overpowered and also a plot hax
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>>159902823
Hassan, Caster and Deermud were weak shits
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>>159904058
I don't think you understand what the phrase "official reason given" means. Because it's not at all what you just described.
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>>159904087
not saying much since apoc is trash
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>>159899097
How exactly would Karna deal with Ea? He can only use his spear once, and it requires him to give up his armor in order to use it.
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>>159904137
>Hassan

Fuck you, nigga. Hassan was great. Hassan are the most underrated servants in existence.
They are the Round Table of the Assassin class and the only reason the servants themselves would ever be shit is because the masters themselves can't use them correctly.
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>>159904153
Is it trash because those two are MCs?
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>>159901384

Protip: Use Georgios NP and then dragon buffed Balmung after.
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>>159904161
Karna's armor reduces the damages he takes by 90%.
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>>159902823
No, half the F/Z servants are garbage.
Gil, Seibah and Alex are the only decent ones.

You're thinking of F/SN, every F/SN servant is ridiculously strong (except Fake Assassin)
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>>159904115
She is the most boring character after Sieg. She's not very interesting or fun at all.
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>>159904115
Basically this. Jeanne is good when not interacting with Sieg.
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>>159904115
Sieg literally ruins everything
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>>159904053
>Fastest hero ever
>Almost died to some random soldier with half his AGI
Amazing!
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>>159904212
No see, I did that already. It was why I put them in the same team with Martha.

I went full Dragon Slayer while farming hands and Sieg was just bringing the team down.
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>>159904215
10% of "GET FUCKED" is still going to be "Get Fucked".
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Q U A L I T Y
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>>159904248
She's never good. That's why her dark version is more popular.
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>>159904248
>Jeanne is good
Don't lie to the guy
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>>159904208
Only SF Hassan is good
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>>159904161
He can't, but most Servants can't. Gil is wary of Karna, which should be plenty indication that he's clearly able to put up a fight and be more of a threat than Gil's used to, but Gil's still an arrogant ass who refuses to seriously consider any outcome that doesn't end in his victory.

If Karna fights Gil, he's probably got a 50/50 chance of victory. If he can get a good hit in with an NP or force Gil into a melee fight, it's his victory, but if Gil manages to snare him in Enkidu and avoid the eyelaser or just decides to pull out Ea he's fucked.
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>>159903426

Kill yourself.
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>>159901388
Shniro's autism ether gets him killed outright by Mordred for being exactly the white knighting faggot type she hates. Or by the power of harem protagonist, saber will be fixed through some serious fuckery.
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Why is Astolfo suck a best girl? Is it even legal?
Also, I want a fucking animated serious Gil vs Karna. Damnit.
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>>159896234
>So say Gilgamesh popped in randomly, could he solo both sides?

Nigga are you retarded? Are you seriously asking that question?
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I think we should all take the time to appreciate Sawashiro's voice.
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>>159904208
Still a shit
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>>159903929
Why do people keep saying this?
Does she love Sieg canon or something?
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>>159903912
>>159904209
>>159904228
>>159904251
> most people think
= / = 3 ESLfags posting the same fake spoilers based on fake spoilers that a anon random said every day.

you're a tool/newfag who is trying too hard.
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>this guy jobed to Shirou
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>>159904471
Dumb Siegfag
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>>159904471
Fuck off Sieg
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>>159904218
Gilles is a threat to all non-beamspammer Servants. He's pretty mid-tier
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>>159896234
Holy fuck this post right here
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>>159901099
>but at the time referred to the whole Lower Rhine area.

That's called Niederrhein, though.
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>>159904496
>jobed
Deported.
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>>159904456
Daily reminder Shirou only tried to protect Saber because she got herself fucked because of Berserker. If it's an UBW like route he should get along with Mordred just fine
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>>159904510
>>159904534
t. fai
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>>159904496
UBW >>>>>>> GOB (in a direct fight)
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>every character so far is pretty endearing except Jeanne who is kinda meh
>cat next episode
I'm liking it so far, but I can tell Jeanne and Sieg will be a drag. With this pacing at least there will be others to enjoy.
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>>159904471
The relevant LN volumes are already translated. I don't know why you think they're fake.
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>>159904615
But Gil can fly like Karna
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Spartacus is hilarious. How hard does he end up getting fucked up?
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>>159904465
Eventually.
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>>159904496
Who didn't?
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>>159903535
have you seen her plots ?
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>>159904471
What? I'm not talking about fake spoilers. Jeanne and Sieg are just plain characters in an otherwise colourful cast.
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>>159904684
And? How would that help him if his main form of attack is being BTFO?
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>>159899494
>>159899550
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>>159904710
More than Vlad
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>>159904615
That only applies to sword spam. If Gil actually bothered to pull out defensive items UBW wouldn't have given him so much trouble.
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Would Frankenstein be a good mother and wife?
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>>159904710
Remember that giant monster in the first episode?
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>fate stay/night
>servants hide their identities, because revealing may reveal your weakness
>some even hide their identities from their master if their master seems like the type to fuck things up

>fate/apocrypha
>literally yelling their true names out loud for everyone including god to hear

Wew lads. This is gonna be shit isn't it?
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>>159904949
wew lad u so fast
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>>159904885
dumb girl is so cute
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>>159904615
More like just one > and only barely. It's a slight fraction of a second edge.
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>>159904949
In fairness, it's totally in character for Karna to do it since knowing he's Karna does nothing but let you see his actual stats, there's no real counter you can scrounge up for him based on his identity like there is for, say, Chiron.

Siegfried revealing his name is legitimately dumb though, I'm not sure how they'll manage to explain away the whole plot of Gordes wasting two CS to avoid Siegfried giving away his name by using Balmung.
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>>159904885
She'd be perfect because she is perfect.
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>>159904710
>Captured through the combined efforts of Astolfo, Avicebron, and Vlad
>Forced to become Avicebron's Servant
>Fights against Atalanta, who inadvertently makes him stronger because she doesn't have a one-hit kill and instead steadily damages him with arrows
>Fights against Jeanne, who does the same thing
>Reaches critical damage and blows up, heavily damaging Black fortress

Doesn't really do anything, but he was happy at least.
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I like her a lot more this episode.
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>>159904885
>After watching Caules leave the room, Berserker suddenly took notice of the computer, which had been left on. It seemed he had forgotten to turn it off.
>What a careless Master. Electricity is precious—Berserker sighed and, without hesitation, pulled out the computer’s plug.
>She was scrupulously considerate as a Servant. Her Master would probably praise her for it as well.

She wouldn't be that smart, but her heart is in the right place.
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>>159905207
Could Frankenstein even give birth?
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>frankenstein's monster is actually a cute illetrate anime girl that likes flowers
>berserker frankenstein's monster is not berserk

this is so fucking dumb

Unless its the same explanation as to why jack is not insane in strange fake, then its fucking dumb
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>>159904652
Translation is not complete and existing translations are ESL who absurdly diverge from the source material.

You're literally a newfag
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>>159905094
Reminder that this is all Shakespeare's fault
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>>159904218
>Alex
He's a great pal, but not that good against a lot of other servants.
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>>159905309
There's always been different degrees of Berserker. She finds it hard to speak and she easily falls into a rage,
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>>159905309
She has very low ME. She's a bit retarded and can't talk but she's not a raging retard.
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>>159905366
He can overwhelm most with sheer numbers.
Unless it's another monster like Saber, he just crushes them.
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>>159905366
He's good against pretty much 99% of Servants. Only the other top tiers could ever hope to beat IH,
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>>159905309
Rank D mad enchantment.
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>>159905363
Best boy
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>>159903535
True Frenchmen from Quebec here, she was also a good tactician with big tits
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>>159905309
>illetrate
The irony of this post.
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>>159904471
I totally agree with you. /a/ guys don't have your own opinions, for this reason, they depend on shit spoilers based on what someone else thinks and said.
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>>159905309
Berserkers are only ever as insane as the level of Mad Enhancement they are given. Caules, being a third-rate magus who is probably the weakest Master in this war (after Assassin's Master), was too weak and so this transferred to Berserker.
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>>159905346
>EOP trying so hard
I can BTFO you easily
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>>159905363
Hope he gets the ironic death that he loves to write about.
Frankly, I hope all the characters get the deaths they all deserve.
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>>159905434
>>159905440
He gets fucked over by literally anyone with an AoE NP. That's more than half the Servants.
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>>159905346
Don't encourage the shitposter anon
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>>159905486
He gets vaporized by Karna after Karna says Shakespeare isn't worth the effort
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>>159905363
I like his design.
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>>159905288
>>159905288
>>159905288
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Why bother with other characters?
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>>159905556
>page 1
>wanting a general

When did /a/ get so bad?
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>>159905499
Most Anti-Army NPs are limited to low thousands at best. He has tens of thousands. Even an anti-fortress, which is way stronger, is still only a 50/50 shot.
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>>159905556
Are you autistic?
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>>159903583
Arturia is so busted she has to be handicapped every war she's in or else there'd be no challenge. She's got 2 ridiculously OP noble phantasms that on their own would make any servant top class, but she gets both plus a third one just as a freebie. She's got the ridiculous innate magic resist her class offers her, and one of the most busted personal skills in existence (instinct rank A) which makes her an uncanny duelist that's nearly impossible to outfight in a skill matchup. And that's not even all the BS stats she has going for her. They have to gimp her every time. Taking away one or both of her OP NPs so she's not invincible, finding holes in her ridiculous Instinct skill to exploit, etc.
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>>159905523
Sounds boring, and stupid, since Karna is his teammate.
Oh well, from what I remember, Karna dies like a bitch, so that is something to look forward too.
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>>159905363
This is what's great about Apocrypta - third of the characters are there just to have fun.
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>>159905651
>dies like a bitch
You're not going to like his death at all then.
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>>159905556
before bump limit
fuck off
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>>159905651
How does he die?
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>>159905707
Sieg pulls a lot of bullshit and plot armor to beat him and even then he won because Karna wanted to lose.
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>>159905707
Sieg kills him after a convoluted sequence of events involving Sieg getting help from like five different people including Karna himself results in his win. It was all according to Karna's keikaku in the end and he died happy and having achieved literally everything he wanted short of a fight with the actual Siegfried.
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>>159905556
FUCK FAI
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>>159904808
I don't mind plain characters. They're a breath of normality in this fantastic world.
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>>159904808
>>159905803
samefag
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>>159905754
>>159905782
Oh boy, it's another Gilgamesh lost because he wasn't serious again episode.
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>>159904867
UBW outright breaks GOB gates. Gil wouldn't have the time to pull any shit
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>>159901300
Seig has no chance against gil. Gil has so many anti dragon np he'd make a kebab out of sumanai.
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>>159905982
How do you expect Sieg to win if he didn't get powerups and asspuls? His only power until then was turning into a guy Karna can defeat normally for three minutes.
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>>159905982
He wanted to lose because he disagreed with Shirou's plan but kept fighting because he wanted his master to survive. Gil is just retarded.
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>>159905033
this
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>>159906058
That just says to me that this story was not well laid out and Higashide was writing by the seat of his pants.
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>>159901388
Assuming Avalon works the same with Mordred, she would be a more tsundere version of Saber but other than that they would be fine.

People forget he gets white knight mode in Fate Route after seeing Saber getting beaten by Berserker and it's the same route he gets his stomach thrown across the street by protecting her, that alone would earn him massive amount of points in Mordred's book even more than Arturia since no one ever did that for her. Sure she'll get triggered by his white knight mode, but that moment alone will keep Shirou safe for the rest of the route.

HF will work fine since he went actively at night to hunt for Servants and that will work fine in Mordred's book

UBW is probably the most dangerous route for Shirou, Saber herself was getting disrespectfull and ignoring Shirou after a while, Mordred will be way worse, at best she'll appear in school constantly putting his sociasl life in chaos however that will prevent Rin from attacking him, but at worse will end with him killed. things will be a little rough till he projects and fights.

The big question for this working isn't about Shirou getting respect out of Mordred, but how the fuck is Mordred gonna survive Cu Chulainn with Luck Rank of D?
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>>159906134
Pretty much everyone agrees that Sieg was a mistake. He's a walking asspull.
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>>159905523
>Karna
>Killing anyone
Anon, think a little before making up spoilers next time.
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>>159906134
No shit. Higashide's not a good writer now, and he was worse when he wrote Apoc. Between CMIV and his own hyping of Karna, he ended up making it impossible for Sieg to win, or even survive three minutes in combat with Karna by the end of Apoc thanks to Karna being grail powered. So he ended up writing a bunch of bullshit excuses including inventing a whole new way of using other people's NPs in order to make Sieg win, since he's not a very good writer.
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>>159905523
But that's wrong
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>>159905468
>Translation is not complete
Which part don't you understand? are you retarded?
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>>159906058
Maybe they shouldn't introduce heroes that have divinity powered nuclear punches who lose to dickhead MCs because they forgot they left their oven on thousands of years in the past.
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So if the grail chooses who the masters are as was established in F/Z why does it even need to make two teams of 7 when one power holds all seven servants? Why not just choose not to give servants/command spells to those guys?
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>>159906251
Not defending Sieg but at least Karna fights seriously against him. It's not a Gil situation where he forgot to put on his armor or some shit like that.
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>>159906251
Karna's loss was at least better explained than "hurr durr he's too proud". It required actual effort and setup, and even then if Karna didn't actually want to lose the whole time he'd have killed Sieg in melee.

The actual explanations for how Sieg wins are horseshit, like using CS to buff his beamu, suddenly being able to use Fran's skills despite never using them before, and Astolfo being able to borrow NPs and use them normally, but it's better than Gil forgetting his golden armor and not going all out because of his pride.
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>>159906372
Gil didn't forgot, he was just to arrogant to think Shirou could stand against him let alone beat him. and he did beat Herc without it so he had reasons to believe it.
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>>159902912
>implying it's not Commie using the UTW site to shitpost
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>>159903740
That was the old gil not the new one.
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>>159906372
>It's not a Gil situation where he forgot to put on his armor or some shit like that.
>>159906462
>but it's better than Gil forgetting his golden armor and not going all out because of his pride.
Why did Gil do it?
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>>159906525
Shirou should not have been able to stand against him in the first place. Gil is supposed to be much faster and a hell of a lot stronger than a regular human, UBW or not.
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>>159906629
Wasn't Shirou buffed by leeching from Archer?
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>people do not realize that all of the things that happens with Sieg is the Counter Force nudging events in his favor to stop Amakusa from destroying extinguishing humanity with the Greater Grail.

Call it contrived but it has been an established part of the setting.
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>>159906681
She was leeching from Rin, Archer was off the grid.
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>>159906462
>if Karna didn't actually want to lose the whole time
How is this not as stupid as Gil forgetting about his armor, or being a egotistical ass?
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Shirou is a Mary Sue full of plot armor and asspull power-ups
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>>159906681
He learned UBW and sword skills with Kanshou and Bakuya. He did not somehow leech enough strength and speed to match B rank STR and C rank AGI.

>>159906751
Because it was established earlier on in the LN that Karna's main priority is the safety of the Red Masters, and that he doesn't consider Amakusa his real Master. He wants to stop him, but can't because Amakusa has a Command Spell left for him and Semiramis would kill his Master and the other ones too if he tried anything. Fiore makes a deal ensuring their safety in exchange for allowing Sieg to pass him if Sieg can survive for three minutes, but since he wants Amakusa to lose and can't do anything about it himself, he intentionally avoids winning.
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>>159906629
The VN states projected weapons gives the user stats and skills matching the users, also Shirou absorbed lots of skills and knowledge from archer even Saber stated she couldn't believe the progress he did in a day.
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>>159906749
I meant the fight Shirou and Archer had which had Shirou improving a shitton in a short time frame
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>>159906751
This is known as plot convenience armor
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>>159907058
best guy
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I think you all forget that the main plot is all about Sieg tapping that blonde pussy and cute pink boypussy and everything else is just kinda there, hence, bad writing.
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>>159907150
No, the main plot is about SIeg and his team toppling a false messiah and his horrid plan to bring stagna- I mean salvtion to mankind.
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>>159900743
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>>159907280
Jesus Christ, what's wrong with her face?
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>>159907353
the rhino effect
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>>159907150
cute pic, source?
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>>159905452
You don't even speak actual french.

Cease your nonsense.
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>>159903535
Peasant girl who, by the voices of the heavens, had the balls to grab the heir apparent prince of France, tell him 'I'm gonna plant your ass on the throne,' and proceeded to do so. French nobility didn't like the idea that peasant girl actually gets shit done or be all peasant on the prince's leg while he gets crowned/have her banner be the prominent one for getting shit done, so they give her no support in coming battles.

She gets captured by the English who are already getting humiliated that peasant girl be making waves in France, subject her to a one sided trial. She's not nobility/worth any English Pounds/French nobility don't like peasant girl being so close to prince, so she gets burned by the English under trumped up charges, roughly along the lines of 'you're not allowed to wear men's clothes, so here, while you're in our prison, have only men's clothes'

Huge generalization, but for a 19-20 yr old peasant girl that just started learning how to read while in prison, she got shit done
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>>159902412
If anything, be thankful you don't work on weekends.
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>>159905207
>interrupting his downloads
It's romanian internet, girl.
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>>159907885
what?
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