Fate/Apocrypha

Mordred is a bad servant.

It's funny how shitty the Black team is whereas the Red team has multiple top tier Servants.

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>>159867459
>Mordred is a bad servant.

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>>159867365
By having someone better than him

>>159867365
Karna has literally the biggest boner at the thought of fighting Siegfried.
Don't fall for the Sumanai meme

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>>159867573
>Romanians actually believe this

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>>159867573
please don't embarrass yourself any longer

>>159867714
Well to be fair he does have super buffs for having the homefield advantage. Cu would been super buffed if summon in Ireland, so I mean. Darnic shit the bed with his bullshit command seal order, otherwise vlad would've been a major pain.

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>>159867829
>command seal
>seal

>>159867515
They have decent hitters like Siegfried, Chiron and boosted Vlad. Problem is half of their team is worse than the meh of Red team like Shakespeare and Spartacus.

>fucking Semiramis carrying two classes while Shakespeare can just wank being a brtibong on the corner.

>>159867365
>Cucks
fatefags are the worse

>>159867365
No NP can actually destroy the entire world, "Anti-World" has been retconned by Nasu to be nothing more than a lie for technical reasons.

I'm just watching this for Mordred

>>159867515
The problem with the black team is that while htey do have decent servants, their masters are braindead retards, Avicebron also didn't help by trying to be a crypitic faggot

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>>159868075
as you should

>>159867365
The side with world ending abilities always lost in any Fate related work.

Only true exception is Zero, because of its nature as a prequel.

I have a bad feeling that they might alter Karna's battle against Sieg at the end.

>>159867459
Rude.

>>159870509
I just want Karna to shoot beams from his eyes.

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>>159867591
Because he reminds him of Arjuna

The impression I got from Karna between his fight with Siegfried is that Karna is shows no impression when he is fighting. Whereas when I think about Gil, he often talks more than he fights.

>>159872781
Wasnt going to be a scene with karna shooting down planes with his eye beam in the novel but was removed?

>>159877040
Yeah, but it was deemed too goofy and never got penned. Would've been hype as shit.

>>159876352
Karna's very serious about fighting, but he tends to enjoy challenging fights, which are rare for him. He grins like a madman before fighting Arjuna, but not much else will give him a battle boner.

>>159870509
If anything they won't very well convey that Karna purposely threw the fight so that Amakusa wouldn't win.

>>159867365
Why is Vasavi Shakti only for single use when shit like Enuma Elish and Enkidu can be spammed?

>Shirou was so right that actual God from Heavens told heroes that he is 100% right
>Jeanne the Shit stopped him from bringing salvation from suffering to billions just because she wanted the D

Best "villain". Worst girl.

>>159867551
Wew A-1 Pictures are doing a gj
would've been better if Ufotable had produced it?

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>>159877505
>Shooting down planes is goofy
>In the same fucking franchise where Lancelot fights Gilgamesh while riding a jet, King Arthur and Medusa fight while scaling a sky-scraper, Jack the Ripper is a loli, Frankenstein's monster is waifubait, and Astolfo is a trap

jfc, how fucking hacky is the author of the LN?

>>159878445
While not as terrible as Sakurai, Higashide is still somewhat bellow average.

Meanwhile, Camelot was so good it got stage show. Based Nasu.

>>159878546
>While not as terrible as Sakurai, Higashide is still somewhat bellow average.
Nice meme. Higashide literally hasn't written anything good, while Sakurai has written Fragments and Sharnoth which were good.

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>>159879131
Ayakashibito is good you mong

>>159877561
>If anything they won't very well convey that Karna purposely threw the fight so that Amakusa wouldn't win.
Do u think they will convey that? I hope the one who is behind the script of this series should really give justice to Karna

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>>159878445
>Also, originally in the Jumbo Jet Counter-Attack battle of volume 5, there were plans to have something like a “Massive Jumbo Jet Target Shooting scene where Karna readies himself and sticks his spear in the ground, and when Semiramis asks what he is doing, he says, 'Weapons are unnecessary. A true hero kills with his eyes!',” but it was too much of a ridiculous gag and it ended up being cut.

I can see why they would think it crosses over into too goofy. But man, if it wouldn't be badass.

>>159879218
>chuunishit
>good

>>159879322
>I can see why they would think it crosses over into too goofy. But man, if it wouldn't be badass.
Hey, at least shooting lasers is better than shooting projectiles on missiles like gil

>>159879341
FSN is chuunishit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VD70_8IN1w
Can Karna even laugh this?

>>159879415
He doesn't need to because he's not a retard

>>159878057
I guess we would've gotten a Mordred booty shake a la Rin in UBW, but that wouldn't have been as fun or impressive as her rolling herself like that.

Yeah, I know it's not a difficult feat and it's more due to saving effort than to show off her strength that she keeps her form so neatly locked, but I like to think of it as being thanks to her strong body.

>>159867573
>a vampire vs the sun god

>>159879415
I listened to this for hours while browsing 4chan once. It was enjoyable.

The feels when Karna agrees to challenge both Jeanne and Siegfried without breaking a sweat when Gordes says it.

>>159867573
>Vlad the implier

>>159877718
Elaborate please

>>159868003
Isn't VS technically Anti-Divine/Army anyway? Read somewhere it's ridiculous powerlevel might be because solar deities are fucking ridiculous compared to earthly deities because they originated from the universe directly instead of being limited by Gaia's rules but that somewhere was Extella, so I'd understand if you'd want to ignore it

>>159868886
Be fair, at this point Saber could end a worldlike entity. Just not the one that matters. Also Gil can win in Extella, and for a given value of "win" Angra Mainyu finds some closure at the end of HA.

Granted, the odds are stacked against them unless they're up against another world ender.

>>159867365
To put it simply: Because he's too prana intensive to actually fight at full OP level. IIRC his defences get shredded if he ever fires VS once, and other Servants have more defensive-orientated NPs.

Remember Saber in SN's nerfed to shit because of Shirou? It's like that, compounded by Amakusa taking his Master hostage. Although he's still a beast of a spearman without shit like Instinct, his fire prana burst is more versatile and the armor NP alone makes him a fair bit more durable. So offensively he's more of a harsh gambit, but overall he's much better at playing to his strengths. Also he does have a PROPER Master providing mana so his actual stats are less gimped, his stuff just takes so much energy it's still barely enough.

Considering Vlad's master took the home turf advantage. And breaks out an NP that bypasses his 90% damage reduction armor by telefragging stakes into him. And fusion-ha'd with Vlad to do a weird pseudo-vampire super mode. And STILL had to retreat

>>159868003
It was never retconned, it was always that.It's just that his concept for world and the basis for Ea's powers in notes weren't well known.

I knew that Ea and Slash emperor had similar concepts behind them the second I'd read the passages describing what they were doing.

>>159867829
I wish Nasu had written Berserker!Cu adventures in Ireland, during his cosmic horror phase. Might even have been a good spot to introduce more info about demonisation. I just want to see a thing that makes Gilles' tentacle monster look adorable with actual justified lore, dammit.

>>159867980
I know Semi was deliberately cheated into being way more powerful than she should be, but what makes Shakespeare OP again?

>>159876352
Which is ironic when in Extra, Gil sees right through Uncrowned Arms Marksmanship to know he has to take Karna seriously.

SN!Gil seems like he'd have probably jobbed hard, though.

>>159877705
Well-Enkidu has a bullshit recovery skill that has something to do with his being a primordial moeblob divine guardian, I think.

Don't think Gil's been explained. Best guesses I have are that either Gil has other NPs to supply Ea's output, or because like UBW part of Ea's package is that it's ludicrously energy efficient for what it does.

>>159880380
I really want Karna to meet and greet Shirou, EMIYA and Arturia someday.

I just have to wonder how they'd react to each other.

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>>159867365
>a fucking pajeet

>>159881552
Also this; it's like the Chaotic Good meme. When Nasu says/is localised as saying "world", he's thinking of shit like reality marbles rather than planets.

Remind me again-does Slash Emperor actually do a conceptual primal Earth thing, or does it just hit REALLY hard so it swipes away the dead Type's blood from the sky?

>>159881640
M8 I have bad news for you: Pajeets are OP. And if Extella is any indication, Nasu is OK with the lore supporting Pajeets being OP even by Servant standards.

>>159881673
It shows the reality of the world again, it drains Earth to power itself, but when it's used the blood sky parts and shows the true blue sky, showing the "truth"

Which to me is that in the limited space around it when it's being used it re-imposes gaia's reality marble back onto the world instead of the degraded form that it's taken up by Notes. Draining the Earth to do so.

>>159881754
I wonder if GO is going to have a not!Notes event, now most of the Grail War rules have already been tossed out the window for the sake of cool?

I mean we're already at the point where one of the Beasts with the least raw personal power is a universe controlling, history-incinerating threat. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Types are miniboss-tier.

>>159881640
>>159881673
He will turn the world into a designated street.

>>159881869
Not without Arjuna, Sita and Rama to join the party, he won't.

Shit, Hanuman's going to be an actual not-joke Servant any day now isn't he.

>>159881845
Notes won't come back in any form, just like DDD.

Types are still pretty bullshit though. They aren't Beast tier based off what we know but they'd still need multiple top tier servants collaborating to take them down in a straight fight or an assload of prep time ala what had to be done to deal with Tiamat.

>>159881673
If you were about to actually destroy the world, Gaia would send you a bunch of GM to kick your ass so yep, attacks like Ea can't disintegrate everything.

>>159881945
Odd way of spelling Counter Guardians and Counter Force, but fair.

>>159881941
Shame, it's an interesting enough setting that I wouldn't mind playing it somehow.

And thinking about it the average humanoid hits like a nuke there but the Types are STILL winning overall right? Also I couldn't help but notice certain Velber descriptions are practically copypasted from old Type descriptions.

I wanna hold onto hope just a little longer.

>>159880715
Kiritsugu's wish only more severe.

>>159881933
>Sita and Rama being with each other

>>159882118
Primate Murder sacrificed himself to save a kid. Gil dindu nothing, and there's a possible future where Saber becomes a demigoddess and thinks killing people for the greater good is a good idea. Kiritsugu is a fucking Counter Guardian.

Face it, everything's topsy turvy in GO.

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>>159868647
delet

>>159879341
You realize you're in a fate thread?

>>159881449
Vasavi Shakti is Anti-Divine, the God-Killing Spear.

Ea is Anti-World in the sense that it tears apart Gaia's RM.

>>159881449
>IIRC his defences get shredded if he ever fires VS once
If he uses it, he has to sacrifice his armour that reduces everything to 1/10 of its attacking force. So yeah, it's great if he really, really needs to kill a Divine-linked thing, but he's better off spamming Brahmastra.

>>159882002
Alaya and the Counter Guardians are protectors of humanity, not specifically Gaia.

Gaia'd probably roll out something like Primate Murder or Crimson Moon/Archetype Earth.

>>159883410
>Crimson Moon
He lost to Schweinorg and cannot do shit.
>Archetype Earth
Doesn't exist.

Mordred is an ugly, retarded piece of shit and I hate her!

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>>159883847
fuck you

>>159879341
>this is not even bait

>>159877705
Because Karna was only granted one use of it by Indra in the legend.

>>159878445
It was because he couldn't write around homing eyelasers for a plane attack.

>>159883387
>So yeah, it's great if he really, really needs to kill a Divine-linked thing, but he's better off spamming Brahmastra.
It doesn't necessarily have to be Divine. Vasavi doesn't actually have any special anti-divine concept to it at all. When it says "Anti-God", it means that it's got enough firepower that it'll kill a god if used on it, which also coincidentally means it'll pretty much kill anything and everything else it hits that's below god-level.