ITT: Shows that aged like shit

Other than a few space segments, I disagree.

>>159837900
Kill yourself

>>159837932
>>159838455
Episodic trash isn't entertaining in 2017

>>159838594
You must be underage. Please fuck off.

>>159837900
your mum

>>159837900
Animated shows dont age like games or live action can

>>159838594
>entertainment over pottery and plot
that's why we only have moeblob and ecchi shit

>still has one of the best direction in anime
>one of the best soundtracks
>have a fairly entertaining cast
Nah, its your taste that is shit.

>>159838660
I'm 25 bitch.

Try rewatch bebop now i dare you, shit is sleep inducing.

g u a r a n t e e d r e p l i e s

>>159838783
Gas yourself, you fucking imbecile.

>>159838594
episodic is kino af.

I watched it and enjoyed it, but i didn't like the story with spike. But other than that, it's a pretty great show.

>>159837900
Wrong.
>>159838775
Go tip your fedora somewhere else, you're embarrassing.

>>159838783
I've rewatch the show every year, you just have shit taste.

>>159838812
Fuck off, /tv/.

>>159838761
Anime shows now have much better pace than they use to.

>>159837900
The movie is way better than the show.

>>159838594
>muh soaps
Fuck off old hag.

>>159838761
What anime uses procedual format nowadays?

None because it's an outdated concept

Samurai Champloo>>>Cowboy Bebop

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>>159837900
You must be 18 years or older to post here.

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>>159838998
Then why are battleshounen threads allowed on /a/ when they're targeted to kids under 18?

Checkm8 you underage shit

>>159838956
I like them both. Jeane should've died though like a true samurai.

>>159838853
You mean that break-neck 12 episode pace thing where they are clearly more interested in pushing out something for ratings and sales only instead of developing a story and its characters properly?

Nah.

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What the FUCK was his problem?

>>159839327
overdosed on redpills and bought a katana and trenchcoat

Space Dandy s3 when
Space Dandy movie when

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>>159839490

Fuck that, give us an OVA with the cute girl that Dandy met up and focus on a timeskip where is older and looking for Dandy.

>>159839327
He brought a sword to a gunfight

>>159839882
I suddenly feel a lot less sympathetic towards Spike

>>159838783
Do humanity a favor and remove yourself from it.

>>159837900
looks better than most anime nowadays

>>159838783

Kill yourself.

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>>159837900
watched it first time a month ago.

does unfold its charm only when the crew is finally complete (ep9+)and then sometimes lives up to its hype. the group dynamic is something very unique.

ends unsatisfying and generic.
but episodes like the magic mushroom make up for it all.

its overrated but still very good.

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I generally dont watch any anime made before K-on or shows that are sub-720p so you could say all of those aged poorly.

Eureka 7 is a special example because I used to like it but I cant bear any mecha animes these days.

Fuck you faggot.

A top 20 all time series easily, neck yourself for even making this thread.

>replying to an obvious bait thread without saging

>>159839083
I think you mean Jin but okay.

>>159841154
Probably thinking of outlaw star. All those J names sound the same.

>>159840181
the anime also implies that vicious was being abusive to julia and that's why she cheated on him with spike

>>159839882
NTR changes people.

>>159841059
>A top 20 all time series easily,

Man people love to say Monster's overrated but at least that was interesting, i never understand why people like bebop outside of nice directed fight scenes

>>159841724
I don't remember that. What episode?

>>159841942
> i never understand why people like bebop outside of nice directed fight scenes
literally 2deep4u

>>159841942
that's because you have no soul

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>Megumi Hayashibara will die in your lifetime

>>159841942
Great artistic direction, well defined and memorable characters, deep layered stories and superb OST. What else do you want?

>>159841984
its either RFB or jupiter jazz but in the flashbacks you see that vicious has been using red eye and at one point mocks julia for thinking that she can leave him or the syndicate

Trigun

Couldn't get past the 3rd episode on the rewatch

>>159842238
congrats, you made me mad. Fuck you.

>>159842086
I only watched the dub. All those ching chongs sound the same to me.Some of her songs are nice.

>>159842170
okay? i think the point is that julia left him because he's a piece of shit. and then he threatened her when she tried to leave

>>159842386
t. Spike
Julia was always a bipolar slut. Vicious did nothing wrong

>>159841033
die

>>159841103
The only way to make a Bebop thread without 9001 replies telling you to fuck off to /v/ or reddit is to disguise it as a bait thread

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>>159837900
I could get past ep 3 when i tryed to rewatch it.
it just looked so cheap.

And i bought the dvd box ...

>>159841553
Well they pronounced Jin like we'd pronounce Jeane, so I assume thats the confusion

>>159842386
Yeah but you're conflating their personal and professional lives. She could have left Vicious without leaving the Syndicate.

It's pretty clear from their interactions and the credits that Vicious used to be a different person. That he changed. The smile seen at the top here >>159839882
is basically unimaginable in the present day Vicious we know.

>>159838956
I disagree but you are entitled to your opinion.

I felt Champloo's finale was weaker. There was more talking during battle and I thought them having a flashback to Jin's master talking about the technique he used to win was pretty uneeded and killed the pace.

Bebops ending was just much smoother

>>159842640
Cowboy bebop looks cheap? Boi...

Unless you mean Champloo. Because Champloo's animation quality fluxed pretty greatly. Some eps looked great while others looked crappy

Daily /a/ contrarian thread? Daily /a/ contrarian thread.

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>>159842931
>Boi

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>>159842820
I agree, I would have liked to see a little more influence from samurai film. An episode like seven samurai would have been excellent and it would have been great to see a true final duel between Jin and Mugen although I understand that the series was overall far too lighthearted and watanabe too reluctant to end the series on anything but a happy note.

>>159837900
No, it has better animation than currently airing anime

>>159842820
Champloo's last 3 episodes were flawlessly done, brought the show from a 6/10 right up to an 8.

>>159843116
It had better animation than anything to come after it at all

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This shit and Patlabor

>>159842360
>I only watched the dub.
You made the right choice.

The dub is objectively superior in every way.

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>>159843330
>I actually pride myself on, 'getting it' where most don't
Hahaha holy shit is this pasta?

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>>159843157
>when Jin reveals his true bishonen power and the Najubes god beats kick in
It would have been a 10/10 if the fights had been more seamless. Imagine what it could have been with 90s cell-shading

>>159843420
>watching anything without Megumi
Why?

>>159843431
I was being quite sincere. Pls don't bully me anon.

>>159843157
I definitely disagree with that. They were good, dont get me wrong, but hardly flawless.

I thought the blind lady's episodes were more compelling. Partially because we got to know her as a character for an episode before we learn shes there to kill them.

The finale's villains both came from nowhere. Its fine with the government assassin guy I guess, but the guys after Mugen have a grudge against Mugen for something we never really saw before they showed up.

I dont think its a great idea to introduce the final enemies on the last episodes, especially when their reason for being there is so personal

>>159843502
Kariya was pure kino, he hit all the right pre-meiji buttons

>>159843493
Voicefags are the worst.

>>159841942
>i never understand why people like bebop outside of nice directed fight scenes
Baby's first seinen

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>>159843652
>how dare you bring up voice actors when comparing audio renditions
It loses impact through translation alone and English side characters are never done well

>>159837900
No way. Solid 90s aesthetics.

>>159838863
The budget does show. Both good though.

>>159843824
Bebop's english vas were great tho

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>>159838594
>Episodic trash isn't entertaining in 2017
Oh yeah?

>>159843863
Bebop's dub was excellent but the original was even more so

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>>159841942
>Monster
It was literally a direct adaptation of the manga, sure it's a decent enough thriller but the anime doesn't improve it anymore than it needed

>>159838594
Space Dandy is AOTD so far though

>>159841942
>i never understand why people like bebop outside of nice directed fight scenes
I liked the characters and music.

>>159844177
I want to rebut you but I literally CAN'T
Watanabe is a God

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>>159841033
>I generally dont watch any anime made before K-on or shows that are sub-720p so you could say all of those aged poorly.
I hate these kinda people

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>>159843824
>and English side characters are never done well
You're trying to tell me this guy sounded better in Japanese?

>>159843420
>The dub is objectively superior in every way.
Not really. Only good one was steve blum as spike.

>>159844290
Yes
also Andy is transcendent of the designation "side character"

>>159844117
Anime or Manga

Monster was far more interesting than Bebop and people want to shit on that series so bad and give passes to this

>>159844255
>Watanabe
The best episodes of SD were directed by guest directors

>>159844289
What can I say, I dont like when the show im watching looks blurry and shit.

>>159844731
>implying they weren't all Watanabe donning an incognito

>>159844885
Maybe you just got shitty eyes

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>>159844885
Then just get BD version of those shows.

>>159844988
Hard to find one of shows like Monster or origina naruto,

>>159845154
Then shut the fuck up and deal with it, you goddamn faggot.

>>159845516
Its unfortunately the topic of this thread and I deal with it by not watching said shows

>>159837900
Please go fuck your dad shit lord

>>159845594
how about I fuck you instead, my lovely little ganymede

Why do nostalgiafags always respond to the weakest bait?

What is Watanabe working on atm?

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>>159845633
No I don't fuck men I can get pussy unlike you lol

>>159837900
hue

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>>159838594
No, it's just harder to actually make good. When it's good it's great though.

>>159844117
The anime doesn't convey the story as well as the manga. It has budget and all but it just couldn't be as good in terms of visuals, pacing and all.

Bebopfags are so fragile.

>>159846101
say that to my face and I'll make you choke on your teeth, dweeb

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>>159846101
>if I say this outrageous and patently untrue thing people will try to explain it's outrageous and patently untrue
>hahaha they're so butthurt

>>159843286
>Patlabor
you better take that back

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>>159838594
I mean, I can see that.

A lot of the runaway hits have been either mini-series or functional mini-series, with a progressive, self-contained plot. Stuff like Stranger Things and Game of Thrones, ya know?

Basically, what you're saying is, you've got normie taste and like to watch Netflix. That's weird that you'd just outright admit that around here, but it is your life I guess.

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>>159843330
Thank you for this post. I know that unironic sincerity generally comes at a premium here on /a/, but the show was a true masterpiece. Shows like NGE were accidental masterpieces, but Cowboy Bebop had so much talent and effort put into it that is certainly an achievement. I don't recall a show that does this "just going through the motions" feel better than CB, only Texhnolyze comes to mind but it goes for a very different thing. Genius show. Quintessentially /a/.

I'm still carrying that weight...

>>159838783
Hang yourself. Make sure it's a strong rope you fucking fat faggot.

>>159843330
>Also literally no anime has ever had a better

Samurai champloo comes close

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>>159846856
>NGE
>accidental masterpieces
You mean art?

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>>159847054
>You mean art?
Well, NGE is a masterpiece and perhaps not accidentally, Anno was already an accomplished director with a concrete vision, but you're right about it being accidental art, in the postmodern death of the author kind of way.

PIC FUCKING RELATED

It was only amazing for its time

>>159846856
Yeah, in its own way Bebop captures what it's like to be an adult or maybe even a person better than 99% of shows out there. There's complaints itt of it being episodic but life doesn't have some constant focus on a particular plot. That's not to say it's arbitrary, the weight of the past is always there and it informs the thoughts and actions of the crew. But we only get real glimpses when it's relevant, the narrative isn't forced, it lets us the viewers infer and feel things out for ourselves as these guys go about their everyday struggle just to be.

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>>159847707
Fuck

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>>159847735
>tfw eating bell peppers & beef without beef for 2 years now
I know that feel

>>159838783
I'm 31, and just rewatched it two months ago and it was still great.

>>159838783
I rewatched the BD release recently and I have to say the quality of some scenes was still pretty bad. Particularly that episode with the fridge monster, there's that one like 10s zoom in on Faye that was noticeably bad.

Still a 10/10 show though.

>>159841033
Kill yourself

>>159847007
Honestly I say they are on par. Just a matter of preference.

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>>159847753
>>159847707
GITS suffers the problems that a lot of Oshii movies do: beautiful art and animation hampered by a stilted story and Oshii wanting to hop up on his soap box and philosophize.
None epitomize that more than Patlabor 2.
At least Oshii had was kept somewhat on a leash for GITS and Patlabor 1. He got off the chain and off the hook with GITS 2 Patlabor 2.

>the best version of the Bebop BD isn't up on Nyaa anymore
fuck what do

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>>159843330
Bebop is one of those anime I can't call bad, but it never really did anything for me.
I can't say the soundtrack isn't fantastic, or that Watanabe's direction is bad. I can point to bad episodes, like Boogie Woogie Fung Shui, but that doesn't detract too much from the whole.
In the end, it's an extremely finely-crafted show.

I just had more fun watching Outlaw Star.

>>159847753
As a piece of scifi, it's really cool...but I just couldn't find it very entertaining. I've gone back and watched it several times trying to see if it was just that I was missing something...but no. It has really cool animation and artwork but in the end I just didn't find it engaging. I may have been spoiled on it though, as my first experience was the english dub, which I won't hesitate to say is the worst dub I've ever seen in my life.

>>159848674
Look harder.
https://nyaa.si/view/460256

>>159848784
>.si
magnet link isn't working here either

>>159848847
Guess no one's seeding.

>>159838783
Honestly it's kinda boring until you reach the halfway point. Every episode starting from Toys in the Attic is nothing short of a masterpiece.

>still no dbz
there is a reason kai exist, too bad they changed the latam dub

Non meme answer: Blue Submarine No. 9. The CG looks like a bad ps1 cut scene and it's incredibly difficult to stomach it at this point in time. The fucking Starcraft cutscenes were better animated, and they were garbage.

>>159842697
Interesting you bring that up, Jupiter Jazz alludes to this several times and it's never brought up again. It has me wondering if the threat of cancellation made them change priorities with the second half, since that two-parter feels like its own show when taken in account with the rest.

>>159849027
Kai existed because of Toei's marketing department reselling even less of an old thing at a higher price.
It's a fucking abomination and everyone who liked it should be shot.

>>159848763
Kinda have to agree. Aside from the episode in bebop where the leftover lobster becomes a sapient mold monster, it wasn't really memorable to me aside from the soundtrack and a few rare moments. It's a great show by objective standards, but I think it takes a certain person to really appreciate it fully.

>>159849094
You mean Blue Sub Number 6.
Which, yeah, suffers from a bad case of GONZO.
The story was pretty crappy, too. Especially the ending. People only remember it for that fish waifu.

>>159849102
Yeah, I would even go so far as to say everything before they were forced to release the Mish-Mash Blues episode feels a bit different from the other half of the show.

>>159843330
>digibro
Classic neo-/a/ and exactly why Bebop threads should be shitposted to death.

>>159849228
My bad, been a while since I saw it, but my point stands about it aging terribly. Frankly the only reason to watch it is for Range Murata's wonderful character designs.

>>159849286
I can see what you mean, everything up to Jupiter Jazz kept raising in scale and felt like it was building up to something, whereas the later half went full-on self contained with each episode until the final two. Still, none come close to Jupiter Jazz in the drab and depressing tone. Even the grey, overcast ghetto isn't something you'd usually see in Bebop.

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>>159849443
Yeah, speaking of Range Murata and GONZO, I've been wanting to rewatch Last Exile but have been afraid it won't hold up.

>>159849094
>>159849228
>>159849443
>aging badly
Blue Submarine Number 6 was garbage of the highest order from the first second.

>>159849561
I think it's held up surprisingly well. Story hasn't got any better, but it really is pretty show and dieselpunk is always fun. Probably in my top 25 even with all its flaws.

>>159849571
You seem personally insulted that I thought it wasn't bad when I first saw it.

>>159837900
shut the fuck up, you complete fucking faggot.

older anime is super charming and cool af.

t. somebody who watched Bastard! - Dark God of Destruction and DNA2 in one session each and had a blast

>>159838783
I'm 28 and I fondly remember it.
you just got shit taste, faggot.

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>>159837900

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>.t
>af
>digibro
>emoticons
>kek
>cuckd
>lel
What happened?

>>159837900
All animation ages like shit. All the new anime today will look like shit in 20 years time. That's why you should judge shows by plot, rather than animation.

>>159842640
>it just looked so cheap.

Try Pokemon S&M if you wanna know what's fucking cheap or go full Chin-chan if you wanna watch total fucking garbage.

>>159849834
Neo-/a/ at it again.

>>159849347
>trying this hard
it was literally prefaced with 'I hate to mention him'

anyone can say something right eventually...except for you

you're retarded forever

>>159849683
Not really, just giving my opinion. That CG was tacky even when I was a wide-eyed child approaching the wondrous world of anime.
But yeah, I gues we tend to express too strongly given this is impersonal and anonymous. Nothing personal, you know, kid.

>>159849863
Personally I still think Eva (for example) couldn't be done any better today than it was then. The problem is that animation didn't improve on old styles, but replaced them, so if you find CG shit annoying like I do you'll alwyas look back at old anime with fondness.

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>watch Bebop in the early 2000s
>discover the internet later in life
I can't look it at the same way.

>>159850028
>159850028
Well I was twelve when I saw it so it's not like I had any idea what was good or not, I just liked the pretty pictures and cute girls. Plus at the time all I had was a ps1 so it's not like I knew what good CG looked like outside of Toy Story. Sorry I misunderstood you, glad we smoothed things over.

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>>159850206
>>159850028
>People on 4-chins tlaking their differences like adults and reaching an amiable conclusion
Where the fuck did this come from?

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>>159850113
>Eva (for example) couldn't be done any better today than it was then
Even with all its production, budget and time management issues, it still turned out alright.
And Anno is just proving your right as he makes the movies.

>>159849458
You forgot to post your favorite e-celeb.

>>159849963
Advertising e-celebs isn't acceptable no matter how you preface it you fucking retard.

>>159839882
That sure puts Bebop in a new light.

>>159837900
:DDD

>>159837900
Ashita No Joe season 1.

Debate me.

>>159852058
Did you even watch the show? How did you miss this?

>>159837900
Wrong m8, it was CB was bad back then and still sucks balls so its quality really hasn't changed at all during last 20 years.

>>159849834
summer

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I really miss Spike guys, how do I compensate this feel?

Is he even dead?

No, this cant be. He said he will be alive after that and come back

>>159854017
He's alive in your heart

>>159838782
How can it have the best direction if it went nowhere?

>>159854279
;__;

>>159841033
Why do you even postagem here?

>>159857714
It's called "shitposting" anon. He's doing it for the (you)'s.

>>159841033
>Eureka 7 is a special example because I used to like it but I cant bear any mecha animes these days.

oh god, same.
I didn't know about it before. I just wanted something similar to Rahxephon and this crap showed up on MyAnimeList. As soon as I saw these "Mechas on Surfboards" I was very underwhelmed. maybe I'm really too old for any of this shit. Not even Macross does much for me. Maybe I'm gonna bingewatch Gundam or some shit because I never cared for it before.

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>>159843286
Dude, I was thinking about watching that too.
You know what I enjoyed reading? Macross 7 Trash. Unironically, it's not Trash at all. it's pretty damn cool because it's also a romance story in a sci-fi setting. Can recommend. The only problem is that there is no anime for it. Macross Frontier I can't seem to get into either. So I don't know yet about the Macross 7 Anime. Musician protag seems to turn me off.

Can someone explain the resolution shit I keep hearing? Why do people not want to watch old anime because it isn't 720p plus or something like that? I never really understood why resolution is such a big deal.

>>159861568
Because people are fucking retarded. In this thread it was very clearly a shitposter baiting for (You)s, but that doesn't stop people from taking it every time.

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>>159838783
you have the attention span of a 10 year old, at the age of 25 that is somewhat impressive but not in a positive sense.

>>159838783
I'm 24, watched it again lately, few episodes are retarded and/or boring, overall still great stuff.

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Hey let's keep replying even though it's obviously bait 3 replies in cause we're so intelligent.