This fucking cat.

>>159834803
I hope the reveal is soon.

>>159834840
I don't think there'll necessarily be one. She could just stay like that. Technically she hasn't appeared in this manga before.

>>159834906
It won't be anything much outside of like a few panels, but it would be nice to see her new design.

>that last page
Flashbacks of FMA

>>159834803

Well, she would need a new gimmick since Marcille stole the role of picky eater.

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marcille will eventually be locked up and executed for her crimes so we need a replacement anyway!

>>159835083
the Valentine edit was great

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Maizuru is the new best girl

>>159835043
>picky eater

I'm pretty sure she's going to join Laius and Senshi in making weird cooking. The line from the girl that she shouldn't throw weird things into the food was a hint.

>>159835083
Never trust an elf

Especially the one with ugly fat ears

>>159835083
That's boring.
How about them throwing Marcille into a tentacle pit?

>>159835307
>The line from the girl that she shouldn't throw weird things into the food was a hint.

Or it might be because it's a fucking cat. You wouldn't let a dog touch your food.

>>159835288
>>159834803
>>159834906
>Girl
what are you implying faggots?

>>159836026
>implying sureau has any male retainers

>>159834803
Sureau is a pretty shitty friend. Leaves his original party in the middle of an ongoing crisis and now chimps out before knowing the whole story that took place in his absence. He even made the same mistake again as they did on their first venture and neglected his personal well-being, becoming a liability to his comrades. Not to mention he enabled the brown sociopath to continue his holier-than-thou questline, who'd otherwise rest at the bottom of a lake now as snake food.

Laius' biggest mistake wasn't blabbing about the dark magic thing, it was letting Sureau into the party in the first place. Only good that'll come out of this is that ninja catgirl will end up joining the main party, if the one-shot is anything to go by.

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>>159836101
>Only good that'll come out of this is that ninja catgirl will end up joining the main party, if the one-shot is anything to go by.
She likes "weird things" in food? Yeah, she'll fit right in.

>>159836101
Laius and Marcille would do anything to bring Farin back. Sureau would not.

>>159836464
I thought cake-woman referred to preventing cat ninja from getting fur into the food.

>>159836026
Chilchack and Marcille pointed out that Sureau's party is all female, him aside.

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>new chapter
thanks /a/

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>>159836026
kuso gaijin

>>159835878
What is she exactly? You have a samurai, a tengu, an oni, two ninjas, and a cat...what?

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>>159836577
>he missed last thread

>>159836624
My despair level is pretty high after that thread.

>>159836671
Kabru a cute

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Soon...

>>159836671
He will do something so horrible, won't he?

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>>159836745
i know anon
i got bad feeling for next chapter...

>>159835288
mother-hen is best chicken

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So,,,in your opinion guys did the mad sorcerer improve Farlyn or spoiled her?

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>>159836101
I actually like Kabru, he seems like a pretty complete character. Sure he likes to overthink a lot of stuff but I see it more as both a pro and a con of his whole character structure. I feel like his stoic attitude fits pretty good with Laius

>>159836624
>mfw I missed last thread
I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE CATALOG anyone got the link for the archive?

Will Farlyn ever catch a break?

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>>159837050
>I COULDN'T FIND IT IN THE CATALOG anyone got the link for the archive?

DOZO
>>159787291

>>159836101

> Leaves his original party in the middle of an ongoing crisis

To be fair, Laius and Co. were woefully unprepared to re-enter the dungeon, Sureau may have neglected his health once he was down there, but it's pretty sound reasoning to get another group + more supplies before rushing off. I mean, if the group hadn't met Senshi they would have definitely either died or be forced to turn back due to their lack of knowledge about dungeon food.


>>159836530

Honestly I think given some time to adjust he would be as okay with it as the main group are.

I mean, I imagine Chilcack or Laius would have had at least similar reactions had Marcille done it on her own.

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>>159836984
She's happy now!

>>159836671
Kabru a shit

>>159835288

So she transforms her arms to human form to cook, or is that just a dress?

>>159837276

I think she has human arms, it's just the kimono thing that has feathers. It's probably enchanted or something.

I mean, you can see the sleeve holes so I'd imagine that's how it is.

>>159837166
>To be fair, Laius and Co. were woefully unprepared to re-enter the dungeon

Problem I have with Sureau is that he made off without even waiting a few hours to tell them in person what he planned to do. They weren't in a coma.

>>159837205
I think she is more close to a dragon with feathers

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>>159837258

>>159836608

Probably a cat god or something. Bakeneko or nekomata. I don't really know the difference.

>>159837344

He was probably in a hurry too? They had a finite amount of time before Farlyn was digested, Laius at least was adamant that they go back down right away.

I mean, the trip would have been long enough as it was, Sureau's group was only, what, 3/4 of the way down the dungeon at most, by that time, Laius's group had already killed the dragon, revived Farlyn, and started heading back from the abandoned city already.

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What the fuck
Is she like a dragontaur now?

i dont like the brownie grifith

>>159837500

Made with dragon(male) parts.

>>159837500
Could be a harpy. Could be a chimera.

Those two creatures haven't shown up in this series right?

that fucking sword germ tho
what's its endgame

>>159837567
It looks like a new creature, tho the fact that she's specifically bleeding from the eye where Chilchack stabbed the red dragon probably means something.

>>159837500
>Imouto mutates into a monster
>can't bring her back to humanity now
Fuck

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>>159837500
Oh please no.

>>159837500
I think they mixed her with cockatrice meat when they revived her.

>>159837733
I doubt it. Maybe it's just an incomplete transformation.

Shouldn't be a problem though, considering Farlyns magic approach, she could just transform into her human form.

What exactly was dark about Marcille's magic? The spell itself is evil no matter what? The use of dragon meat? All she did was revive Farlyn which is a usual thing in the dungeon.

>>159835288
>cute
>team mom
>can cast youkai
What's not to like. Only if Tade has more actions this chapter.

>>159837952
the magic she used is considered unethical

>>159837952
Marcille herself says lots of so called dark magic is just magic that can be used for evil but aren't actually evil in and of themselves
That's just what she says though, maybe there is such a thing as evil magic

>>159837952

> What exactly was dark about Marcilles magic?

I'd say, the fact that it was forbidden, as well as the fact that it apparently belongs to some kind of 'other' class of magic not in use today, as she mentioned with that whole 'taking magic from another dimension' thing. We don't exactly know what drawbacks it could have, especially considering how the flesh of the dragon changed Farlyn much more than Marcille intended, but obviously there's something dangerous enough about this kind of magic that it was locked away.

>>159835718
I'd read that doujin

>>159837952
Except bringing something back to life isn't normal at all, even in the dungeon. It's a violation of a soul.

Marcille is the kind of person who would be on a government watchlist based on her internet history

>>159838111

Eh, not really, it's because of the mad sorcerer that the souls of the deceased remain trapped in the dungeon, healers just make use of the dungeons curse to shove peoples souls back inside of them, they're basically just exploiting the system.

>>159838111
Did you even read the mange? It's completely normal as long as the body isn't too damaged.

>allied themselves with Orcs
>used dark magic
Those 2 reasons are more than enough for Cabron to kill them.

>>159838468
Also, the Eating Monsters thing might be a questionable thing. On the plus side, he's probably thinking "Oh shit they killed and ATE a fucking red dragon. No way I could kill them, not easily, anyway."

>>159838149
>How to grow magical plants safely
>How to vaporize a lake
>How to get a lot of energy
>Raising the dead alternate rituals
>Forbidden magic
>Contacting the dungeon dimension
>Sudden nosebleeds after using magic

Yep

Chilchack chose wrongly this issue.

I can only hope it's not another 30 chapters to get to what's her name now

>>159838468

They didn't exactly "ally" themselves with Orcs, they just traded some shit in return for information about shortcuts to the lower levels.

Also, as it is, I don't think Cabron really cares that much about Marcille's actions, he's mostly intent on ratting out Laius for the secretly evil person he wants him to be, if only to justify his untrusting nature.

>>159838991
>they just traded some shit in return for information about shortcuts to the lower levels.
Should've outright killed them, it's what lawful adventurers would do.

>>159838429
>mange
Probably unintentional, but it got a giggle out of me

>>159839069
lawful adventurers get killed doing stupid shit

>>159838991
Yeah but Kabru doesnt know that. Laius didnt explain the circumstances that led them to be non hostile to the orcs.
All that Kabru knows is that they allied with the orcs and used forbidden magic. Eating monsters isnt really evidence of them being evil and he's doubting if they stole the treasure, if it can be called doubting and not him hatching up a plan.

Was Senshi trying to seduce the asian cooking lady or he's just trying to cheer up a fellow cook?

Why are the people in Kabrus party following him?

Clearly he's just going down the dungeon for shits and giggles and intimidating his asian qt.

>>159839281

He was just being courteous, plus he probably just wanted to help out in the kitchen regardless.

>>159839281
Senshi is just a nice guy who loves cooking, I doubt he was trying to hit on her.

>>159839313
Because he's charismatic and a competent leader.

>>159839420

> Competent

Please, they died to treasure bugs.

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>starts explaining his reasoning AFTER getting hit with a sword
Laius is so fucking bad at talking

>>159839614

I imagine he had to get the fact that they resurrected her with forbidden magic first, otherwise the justification wouldn't have made that much sense.

>>159839614
smart
strong
talk good
pick two

>>159839614
>killing your potential brother in law
The hunger is really getting to him, huh?

>>159839614
Sureau is kind of a cunt.

>>159837952
>what was dark about Marcilles magic
>Whats dark about making Laiuses sister a slave to the mad sorcerer and a semi dragon

None of that shit would have had happened if she had goats

>>159839898
You would too, if you learned that your waifu was turned into a zombie dragon hybrid. Then again, considering where we are, you'd probably think of that as an improvement.

>>159839836
can't marry a girl executed for heresy anyway

>>159840127

All that slave to the mad sorcerer shit was likely more just because of the nature of the dragon, all Marcilles spell is really capable of is reviving someone whose soul is already too far gone for normal revival spells.

If any normal healer was down there and Farlyn's soul was still strongly attached, I imagine they would have been able to revive her with the dragon without forbidden magic anyway.

>>159840131

I imagine if Laius pushes the "It was the only way to revive her soul" + "It was the mad sorcerer who fucked up her body" + "Would you rather she stay dead forever?" angles then Sureau might come around.

>>159840131
>You would too, if you learned that your waifu was turned into a zombie dragon hybrid.
He doesn't even know about that, he just heard "we used the dark arts to resurrect her" and flipped out.

>>159840131
>a zombie dragon
Even normal resurrection needs additional materials to fix the body.

>>159840131
Unless his troupe is capable of reviving skeletons back to full health humans, he has no right to mouth off on behalf of Fayrlin.

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FUCK

CABRON

so if they defeat the crazy dungeon wizard the place will disappear or what?
it will impact the local economy obviously but won't they also be hunted down by the elves or whoever it was that wants the secret wizard knowledge?

>>159840525
Why would it? It probably needs dismantling to be destroyed.

>>159837952
She connected her body to the dungeons magic which indirectly hooked her up to the infinite magic dimension (Which is why she could do those cast free powerful spells) in order to jumpstart the resurrection process since her body didn't have enough energy left in it for the normal spell to take.

Using dragon meat didn't really fuck anything up technically. Dungeon monsters were confirmed to not have souls so no risk of soul mixing and the ressurection guys use animals to fill in missing mass all the time without issue. The others are just freaking out because using a monster for it is as disgusting as eating monsters to normal people.

The reason she's acting like a dragon now and doing its old mission is because the scorcerer believes her to be the dragon and is controling her through her connection to the dungeon.

Tldr; It's black magic because she essentially turned her into a dungeon monster.

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>>159840525
>Will dungeon disappear
Its brick and mana ecosystem works without mad sorc anon

>It will impact local economy
It might not. Mad sorc doesnt create the creatures in the dungeon except maybe for the really high level ones that nobody will face anyways

>won't they also be hunted down by the elves or whoever it was that wants the secret wizard knowledge?

Of course, only reason why elves arent digging the dungeon themselves is that Mad Sorcerer is the baddest motherfucker in Meshiverse. Even now she could wipe the dungeon clean of interlopers if she didnt have better things to do. That stuff is too low level and way beneath her.

Actual elves hunting her might warrant her to act however

>>159841028
Well technically the souls being trapped is the mad scorcerer's doing even if the rest of the dungeon isn't. With the mad scorcerer dead that spell will disappear and resurrection won't work and the undead in the upper levels will be gone.

>>159836608
>>159836572
Something about Sureau's team i have noticed. I found in manga and anime,young master type characters, especially eastern origin, like him will usually have an all female cast or a old man as his companies, who are his friends but also his servant and bodyguard.
Is there a reason for this trops ? like historical cultural background

>>159840512
Don't mind if I do. Seriously, why the fuck is he so cute in this chapter? Look at that fucking blush.

>>159841180
Historically most royal retainers were men iirc, not women.

>>159834803
Them flipping out over the dark arts was so retarded. Not only is nothing inherently evil and only good or evil depending how it's used, but you think that stupid slant eyed faggot would trust his friends a little bit more.

>>159841210
cute? You must be a girl because he's behaving like suck a shit, to me at least

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>>159839614

Cabrown already has the color and expression for a banebeer comic

>>159841303
>Not only is nothing inherently evil

t. Marcille

>>159841303

> Not only is nothing inherently evil

THEY don't know that, for all they know, using forbidden magic sells your souls to fucking, demons or something.

>>159841303
I dunno, considering that people who are caught associating with dark magic get locked up forever, I think him panicking about his waifu spending life in prison isn't completely out of character

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>>159840512
indeed

>>159841388
Marcille did nothing wrong.

>>159841470
I hope the series isn't retarded enough to do something like things being inherently good or evil. That's lazy as shit writing and I'd hate for the series to be about this faggot Sureau or that sociopath Kabru.

>>159841498
Sort of fair, but you think he'd at least wait for an explanation before getting triggered and threatening to murder his friend over it.

>>159840512
It feel like his personality did a 180 this chapter. He went from Judge Dredd wannabe to the Joker.

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>>159840512
fuck.

>>159841569
>>159841470
It does fuck up the soul though.

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>>159840512
cabron.

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>>159841542
More Chilchack slap
>>159841578
I think he's just having a fun time seeing how scummy they can get before he decides that enough is enough and that a purge is needed.

>>159841612
When has that been estabilished? And how do we know that's correct? It was assumed that orcs are inherently evil and untrustworthy, but that's been shown to be false. Just because common "knowledge" says the dark arts are evil doesn't mean it's true.

>>159841569

> Like things being inherently good or evil

Not saying dark magics are evil, just that for people who don't know jack shit about forbidden magic ((i.e everyone but Marcille)), it would definitely be concerning to see it used when you have no idea what the consequences may be.

> It does fuck up the soul though.

We don't really know that though, at this point, it looks more like Farlyn got turned into a slave due to her her flesh being taken from the dragon, which was under the complete control of the mad sorcerer. I imagine if they had gone and used cockatrices or something Farlyn would still be fine.

>>159837276

I though she was a Tengu but no, she is human, that's her dress.

>>159836101

well, in his defense, he wanted to regroup and bring a stronger bigger force to rescue his waifu. Also, he is probably a lawful good fag, so using dark arts is a no no in his book.

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>>159841388

>>159836101

I was more surprised by Cabron being civilized an all. Maybe he will be more paranoid now that the dark arts scheme was brought.

>>159836624

>wanting to get spoilers all over our face

I don't know japanese, and when they post the translations, I prefer to read it in mangafox or my pc.

>>159841852

If not it's going to be Cabron trying to get Laius and co thrown in prison when they reach the surface again.

>>159841812
she was already just bones when Laius' crew got there so I don't see how he could be delusional enough to think that would work

>>159841881
>mangafox
Kill yourself.

>>159841331
the fuck is this

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>marcille uses dark magic to unbind the dungeon master
>turns into a dark elf
>she becomes the new dungeon master

>>159839898
He's clearly suffering from sleep deprivation in addition to starvation and half out of it since he tried to blitz the dungeon without stopping. He's probably not TOO different from normal but at the same time his capacity for rational thought has been severely weakened as evidenced by that panel where he has no idea what the fuck is going on while being talked to.

>>159841946

To be fair, Farlyn's body shouldn't have been digested if the dragon had stuck to it's usual pattern, the only reason it did was because the dragon was active again so soon after eating her.

>>159841735
If it was the dragon flesh the meat they ate would have been forcibly exiting their bodies. Marcille forgot to turn the patch she added to the dungeon programming off which meant that when the Sorcerer showed up he yoinked the dungeon parts as usual which included Farlyn. I don't know why you didn't notice that when even Marcille had a panel/page indicating that she isn't sure that she forgot to turn that off and is really just hoping she did. Since we didn't see a panel of her turning the circle off nor was there time in the events we saw it stands to reason that Farlyn got yoinked because she was still considered part dungeon.

>>159842320
I'm still salty about that
everything should have been fine but the plot forced a bad ending anyway, it felt forced if you know what I mean

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she wants a piece of Laius's "long leg", right?

>>159837500
She's now a cockatrice below the waist.

>>159837952
Ressurection magic is necromancy but apparently there's different forms of it with some being acceptable and others like what Marcile did not.
Of course there's the trouble of them not having erased the magic circle which allowed the Sorcerrer to take control of the little sister.

>>159841307
Cute as in he looks cute, nothing to do with personality. I think Cabron is a piece of shit but I've got to admit that appearance wise he's pretty damn adorable in this chapter.

>>159841946

I am not saying it's a good or bad idea, for someone that it's lawful good, that's a bad thing even if it's done with good intentions. Maybe a Chaotic Good fag would agree though

>OP put the fucking title in the name field
You can't search for this thread now you dumb fuck.

>>159841909

things are tense now, and the author say that they are going to cross their paths with the dragon lady.

I bet Cabron will go full cunning and try a sneak attack on Laius.

Samurai guy will be busy trying to decide if he hast to kill his waifu or not.

>>159841947

shut up cunt, no one cares about your opinion.

>>159843656

is she true that she likes tall males? is she a human fucker?

THAT'S HOT

>>159845428
So far, all your bets have been proven wrong, and Kabru's behaved rationally and came to the correct analysis once he had a closer look at the situation.

>>159845531
He's clearly a dick though. Seemingly a future villain.

>>159840131
I'd realize that I don't have much room to talk because I was too much of a pussy to go after my waifu.

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>that psycho face

>>159837500
>muh japanese dark souls boss monster

>>159838011
Tade is adorable, but I'm sad she doesn't get to eat monster with Laius.

>>159839614
Laius is the best. Chapters like this one remind me why.

>>159840131
Your waifu, his fucking sister.

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>>159845514

>>159837366
Nice.

>>159846729

PORN WHEN?!

>>159846908
>he doesn't know

>>159846908
Do not porn the meshi. That's out of line.

>>159846945

a pixiv account doesn't count as porn. And she doesn't look that good in those pics.

I can't believe anyone likes kabru. The dude's a fucking snake, even if he looks cute.

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what did she mean by this

>>159847314
He's amusing in this chapter.

>>159847314
I think he's an absolute cunt, but I do think he's a good foil to the main party.

>>159847314
Nothing wrong with killing dark mages who are also friends with orcs.

>>159837500
Is it just me or ChimeFarlyn's pupils are dragon-like?

>>159837952
"Dark Magic" is obscenely powerful if Marcille's description of opening a portal to a realm of infinit energy.

DOOM connotations aside, magicians equipped with the knowledge would become walking, reusable, warheads. I wouldn't be surprised if the magic is so heavily restricted and persecuted on the grounds people with the knowledge become too powerful.

Kabru will find out about the missunderstanding and resolve it peacefully. Hes not a monster

>>159847619
He's a good foil to their heart on their sleeve goodness and honesty, but thag doesn't mean I hate him less. He's going to either get someone killed or kill them himself, he's a psycho who hides behind his good looks.

>>159847638
Kabru please leave.

>>159837952
Dark magic in the manga is just like fire guns in the real world

>>159837366
Man, that was fucking creepy, it shows how he really doesn't see the rest of his party as being anything more than tools

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>>159847844

>>159848283
Yeah that look along with his ease of murder doesn't bode well for the future. Is he going to go full villain in the future?

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These are your dragonslayers.

>>159848326
He killed scum who wanted to murder them first and steal the rest of their stuff.

>>159848864
she just had to be in the frogsuit when saying that.

>>159848864
I like how she's still wearing the frog suit for no good reason.

>>159849050
she unconsciously loves that suit

>>159849185
Frog suit Marcille without the hood on is the most beautiful. And the cutest when she puts the hood on.

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>>159849050

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>What is the problem, Laius ?
>Don't tell me you didn't know this would happen, right ?
>I mean, you fuckers used the dark arts to bring your dead sister back
>You really thought this would just go all your way like a penis inside butter ?
>Now she's dead. Again. And it's all your fault
>What am I doing ?
>Come on, Laius ! You, of all people, should know what comes after the battle
>Let us eat some monster meal

>>159849034
Murder them and turn their corpses in for bounty at the resurrection center.

>>159849050
>why are you wearing that stupid frog suit?
>why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

>>159847514
Firepunch mixup
Well done

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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES!

I hate the curry, I hope he dies soon.

>>159850115
He's gonna be the one to kill Farlyn. Screencap this

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Reminder.

>>159835288
She is an old hag.

i hope next chapter has more of tade's thighs

>>159849842
What is she turning into? A sphinx?

>>159850115
Me too. Fucking psychopath poo in loo bishounen.

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>>159850179
Shut up.

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>>159850477
Truth hurts, doesn't it

>>159842083
Oh God, this might be the real ending. She and Farlyn stay in the dungeon, and try to make it a better place.

We're all forgetting the main point.

Which is Chilchack is best boy.

>>159850741
>boy

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>>159850741
Good to see some people still have their priorities straight.

Dragon pussy

>>159839614
>Imouto has become a horrible abomination
>Sureau is on the verge of killing Laius
>Cabron is enjoying himself

Shit, this got dark in the last couple of pages.

>>159841180
Long cultural history of Japanese beta males wanting wish fulfilment fantasies in their manga. Dates back to at least the 80's. Used to be done purely for comedic effect, but now its considered standard across all genres.

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>>159850741
Is it considered /ss/ if an onee-chan gets with Chilchack?

>>159841569
>I hope the series isn't retarded enough to do something like things being inherently good or evil.
That only happens in D&D because magic/miracles are directly tied to the power of the actual gods which all exist as a prestated fact, so naturally there are some pretty obvious and objective moral guidelines. But I don't thing Dungeon Meshi will go that route as it seems to be divorcing magic from gods at all corners.

>>159854161
Meshi is based off of Wizardry more than D&D. I don't know how magic works in that system, so we'll have to wait for a /tg/ fag to come and explain.

>>159836671
Is it just me or is he being drawn cuter and cuter each chapter? And if so, for what reason?

>>159854084
Oh fuck I've been looking for this pic forever, thanks

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>>159837500
They are going to blame Marcielle dark arts for this, right?

>>159854275
You're in luck, I happen to be a /tg/ fag.

Wizardry is based off of D&D. In fact, it literally uses AD&D 1e rules as far as I remember, with some slight tampering.

Clerics are battle-priests that have miracles, or in FF terms, they have White Magic. Clerics get their spells directly from Christian God himself, or whatever setting God(s) there are for that particular setting if you expand the religious lore. They have to pray to God and ask for that day's miracles.

Magic is different, as it's just implied that the words, somatic (finger-waggling), and material components combine to make an impact through the world. However, in about 99% of the canon D&D settings, magic is implied or directly stated to exist because there is a God of Magic. In fact, one of the most popular settings, the Forgotten Realms, actually had a period where magic basically exploded because one of the Gods of Magic beat the shit out of the other one and took over, which changed how magic worked from between 3rd edition D&D to 4th. But then he got killed by the old Goddess again and magic was put back the way it MOSTLY was in 5th edition.

>>159854501
Interesting. So if Laius is ranking up to Lord class, would his magic be miracle based or magic based? I'm thinking it'll probably be magic based since it was Marcille that taught him.

>>159854501
>which changed how magic worked from between 3rd edition D&D to 4th. But then he got killed by the old Goddess again and magic was put back the way it MOSTLY was in 5th edition.
That sounds like the stupidest fucking way possible of explaining away a rule change.

>"Oh, yeah, you roll a different die to attack now because instead of making weapons out of iron they're making them out of super iron now, which is like iron but is octagonal, so we use the d8."
Fucking clownshoes.

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>>159850296
In the dark all cats are grey.

>>159835083
none of this shit would ever happened if this damn elf never use her black magic and shit.

Still hate you Kobru, you fucking sandnigger.

>>159854659
From what I'm seeing, the magic doesn't seem to be split between Magic and Miracles like you would normally expect. After all, Marcille knows cure magic, but she also knows attack spells, which is very atypical of that divide. I think in this setting, magic is just magic. So if you know how to cure, you know cure. If you know how to firebolt, you know how to firebolt. Class isn't relevant, at least it doesn't appear to be here. Which is my original point about how magic seems to be divorced from any reference to gods. If there's a split anywhere, I would think black magic would be the forbidden shit that Marcille was using.

>>159854889
>That sounds like the stupidest fucking way possible of explaining away a rule change.
It was specifically made so that people playing in Forgotten Realms settings could recreate their old character in the new rule set. It was only for Forgotten Realms, and only because FR is the defacto default implied setting. D&D doesn't actually have a real default setting, it's literally just the engine.
Also, I agree. At lot of us fa/tg/uys fucking HATE Forgotten Realms for many reasons.

Your second point, think of that rule change less as them using different iron, and more like inflation. "Oh, my HP went up. That means relative to before, a sword would be doing THIS much damage now". Like an update on the information as opposed to the actual die attached to it being significant.

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>>159854275
>Meshi is based off of Wizardry more than D&D.
I still think it's Dungeon Master, especially because you could eat monsters in that game and you can gain wizard levels like Laius just by practicing spells.

>>159841578
He always was Joker. Only some Cabronfags wanted him to be Lawful Neutral when it's obvious he's Neutral Evil ("Doesn't matter who dies as long as I get the reward") or Chaotic Evil ("Doesn't matter if I die as long as nobody gets the reward").

>>159834803
>"I want some privacy"
>"ok"
>listens to the conversation anyways.

>>159847314
Probably the same fags that like Suiryu from OPM.

>>159844577
I also wondered. Cabron looks like a trap now. Really girly. Maybe he's supposed to fill the pretty but evil archetype, I dunno. Maybe he will blow Laius at camp.

Then again, he's a crazy sociopath so maybe he'll go for Mr. Chilchak.

>>159855509
I'm kinda thinking he might actually be a reverse trap. Even "his" chest plate has some rather feminine curves to it.

>>159855677
Nah, doesn't feel that way, but I've been wrong before.

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>>159837500
That's not the Dragon/Human Hybrid I wanted!

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>>159856026
Me neither

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>>159841645
>>159841604
>>159841542
topkek

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>>159856089
Either real antro or nothing. The ususal human with little animal parts is bullshit

>>159856937
I'm not a furry, sorry

>>159848307
he looks like a girl though

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>>159856991
Anthro=/=Full blown faggot suit furry

>>159857330
Same as Griffith.

See the pattern?

>>159850179

>kill her
>his party member resurrects her and undo the chimera form
>kills the wizard while at it
>poo becomes a hero

>>159855356
what did you expect from a ninja looking mother-fucker?

>>159834803
>>159855356
What a piece of shit cat. You'd think a ninja would know to keep secrets.

>>159858863
Nah more like
>while everyone's busy trying to save Omouto he backstacks Laius and his party while they're all exhausted
>heh nothin personnel

>>159857864
Furry = Furry.

I'm gonna be pissed if Kabru steals the teams achievements.

>>159855329
Cabron clearly cares for his group and their well-being. Neutral Evil doesn't suit him because he wants to bring peace by killing the sorceror, the orcs and the thugs, who kill or steal stuff from honest peoples.

Lawful might not suits him well as he's more about forcing his morale laws rather than society's, so I'll call him True Neutral.

>>159859363
What makes you think that he'll succeed? His team is a colossal fuckup after another.

>>159859404
He's a well meaning man but he's damaged.

>>159834803
>>159859363

>>159859404
He has too much conviction in this morals to be true neutral. If neutrality represents apathy, indifference, and a lack of conviction, then Cabron definitely does not fit the mold. Lawful evil might fit better, but he's shown to be pretty opportunistic.

>>159859619
But is he evil? His intentions are noble, but his methods are questionable because his personality is twisted due to his trauma.

>>159856089
Why is no one translating this to English?

>>159859707
Because this world is corrupt.

>>159859687
I guess the main issue is by what means would he use in order to reach his "noble" goals. If you think the ends justify the means, then Cabron would qualify as lawful "good". But if he has to murder everyone present and completely decimate everyone above-ground's means of living to do so, I'd argue that he's more neutral evil.

I think his well meaning morals are just an excuse for his own self interests. If he really wanted to destroy the dungeon, he would be focusing on killing the dark elf rather than nursing his silly grudge with Laius.

>>159860004
That's because moral absolutes don't exist. The dungeon is an "evil" existence, but people are making a living off it. What's the right choice?

>>159860004
>Muh dnd alignment
Who cares? Stop being so autistic

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>>159860195
>people talking about shit I don't like
Who cares? Stop being so autistic.

>>159859404
Lawful is not about laws of society. If you are forcing your morale onto people you are still lawful in D&D, being a judgmental asshole is a standard thing for the negative side of it

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>>159837500
Getting some bad vibes here

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>>159837500
But how does it taste?

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>imouto becomes a duragon
>Marcille banished for immoral acts(magic and otherwise)
>Laius becomes despised for eating monsters and generally just being a bit too optimistic about various shenanigans
>Dorf and Shota become a couple
And they all lived happily ever after in the magical dungeon!

>>159834803
I WANNA PET THAT CAT

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I'm guessing Cabron has realized that Laius is not the criminal lord that he thought he was.

>>159860843
Farlyn wasn't nearly as retarded as Furiae, god that cunt's stupidity doomed a couple of worlds.

>>159861785
Yeah, he is worse now.

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>>159861785

>>159860271
I think the D&D alignment system is trash too. No realistic, developed character should even fit into the narrow confines of that alignment system. Debating over whether Kabru is neutral or evil is a waste compared to just talking about his motivations as a selfish, distrusting human.

>>159859404
In Wizardry terms, Kabru might be of Evil alignment (Wizardry only has Good-Neutral-Evil).
Fun little fact, ninjas can only be Evil. Samurai are Neutral or Good. Lords are only Good. Laius seems to be heading towards becoming the Lord class (warrior who can also cast priest spells - KATU *gesundheit*).

>>159854501
>>159854659
Pretty sure that in Wizardry a warrior wizard is called Samurai.

IIRC, Lord is warrior rogue.

>>159860843
Yeah, I'm super worried.

>>159862489
No. Lord is warrior-priest. Bishops are priest-mages who can also identify (fuck you, Boltrac).
And ninja are super-thieves who don't need to waste any equipment slot to kill monsters, making them very very useful to carry all those garbage quest items you need.

Fuck, now I remember I was planning on buying Wizardry 8.

WAIT WAIT WAIT HOL UP!

If Dungeon Meshi is based on Wizardry... where are the aliens, the robots, the spaceships, the laser guns, and the desktops with MSDOS?

>>159859404
Did you fucking see the look he gave his team mate when she started talking why he wasn't acting?

>>159861785
yeah, I think he's realizing that he's just a dangerous idiot.

>>159862817
Wizardry 6 onward, where they added stuff like lizardmen, fellpurr, rawulfs, faeries, those shaggy totally-not-wookies-dudes based upon an older cartoon series, with new classes like the female-exclusive valkyrie, other classes like alchemists, rangers, monks and psions.

Old-school wizardry is 1-5.

Anime when?

>>159836026
classic japanese fairy tale crane waifu

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monster ingredients when?

>>159865467
Imouto burgers?

>>159865558
aww yiiss

>>159865558
>>159865584
shiro will behead you both

The wait for the new chapter is already killing me.

>>159865467
>tfw no qt cake retainer gf

>>159839069
must kill orcs on sight thing was issued after they dive into the dungeon or I'm wrong? After the old gnomes' visit to Chief.

>>159865913
She's got nothing on the Oni.

>Worst boy meets the main cast
>Doesn't get BTFO instantly
Bad chapter.

>>159866150
He's done nothing wrong. Yet.

That bitch cat is the one who needs to go down.

>>159865467
the last panel resembles missionary gay sex

>>159866278
tilted

Why do people lose their shit about the black arts. The only problem with Farilyn's revival was the monster meat, the "dark magic" did the exact same thing the white magic would have.

Buncha racists.

>>159866412
Didn't Marcille do the exact same thing everyone else does except with Dragon meat? Where did the dark magic come from? Was it when she rewrote the dungeon rules? Is the use of monster meat the reason for it being dark? If that's the case wouldn't eating monster meat be judged the same?

>>159866720
The ritual she did was not the "proper" resurrection ritual, which she can't do, but it's the one she learned in her studies of taboo magic. But as far as we can tell, it basically did exactly the same thing, the blunder was that monster meat is part of the dungeon and so under the Sorcerer's control, so he took control of the meat and of Farylin.

>>159866412
could be, it's actually impossible to unlink completely after borrowing that extra power

>>159867651
To unlink what?

>>159867676
well the body of the sister, in that case

>>159867754
From what? The "link" to the dungeon exists because they used dragon meat, not dark magic.

>>159866278
>implying Laius would cheat on his imouto

>>159867809
Didn't she also need to connect to the power supply of the dungeon because she didn't have enough mana after the fight and wasn't a real cleric? I thought she winged it because they might very well just lose her

>>159834840
Me too

>>159864675
This.

For the start to Red Dragon chapters should cover a season already.

>>159865467
>"Eastern Style Cuisine"
>Not "Mirin-boshi Rice Set"
So is this the last meal Maizuru will make in this series?

>>159835288
I would marry her.

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>>159834803
cats, always them. I hate when that happens.

>>159835288
Yes

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The dark magic that Marcille used is entirely unrelated to the fact that she used dragon meat for the resurrection ritual.

>>159868229
The meat had nothing to do with it. Anon is just really stupid and refuses to notice that the circle making Farlyn part dungeon was never erased despite it being pointed out to him multiple times today as he pushes his dragon meat theory.

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In other words she connected to an hellish arcane plane that naturally warps reality to bring about monsters, wraiths and zombies, and she used the energy from that dimension to resurrect someone.

>>159838647
on one hand, allying with orcs (Kabru might not know about this, yet) could be questionable (however orcs might not be seen as monsters, but as another species, like elves, too), on the other hand, Laius' party did what Kabru wanted other adventurers to do, they took down monsters and fought against the dungeon (to prevent monsters from overflowing to the surface, or so he thinks); things can become complicated if Farlyn needs the dungeon to survive, and Kabru insists in ending it.

Wonder if the elves and humans fighting over control of the dungeon could become an equal or greater threat to the humans of the surface, so Kabru could put his initial goal aside. I was thinking on how the occurrence of dungeons could be something started by humanoid species, and remembered Marcille and Farlyn's class, where Farlyn made a mini-dungeon. Maybe there are people attempting to recreate dungeons in order to obtain magic power.

>>159873285
Right, but the only problem with her ritual so far is the fact she used dragon meat. And the fact that the current establishment is racist against black magic.

>>159873489
She had to turn off the connection to the dungeon after it was done and she forgot to turn it off. That's called a really big fucking problem.

>>159873410
Doesn't all magic come from that dimension though?

>>159873570
No one said anything about turning off connections of even if it was possible, just that the dragon meat was under the sorcerer's control.

>>159873667
Marcille did soon after where she wondered if she remembered to do so. If your dragon meat theory was true then the meat inside everyone would be getting dragged out too in presumably a painful/disgusting manner.

>>159873757
The dragon meat they didn't eat DID get dragged out. I suppose that digesting the meat saved them.

>>159841303
maybe Laius' party (save for Chilchack) consists of people who're weird, otaku on their own way (Laius = monsters, Marcille = magic, Senshi = cooking)

>>159835083
>How villains are created.Jpeg

>>159874242
Burn them all, Mariclle. Force them to understand.

>>159873570
>she forgot to turn it off
I keep seeing this, but can't find the clue.
I thought like in >>159873410, she said she only temporally connect the body to the dungeon, which IMO imply she already closed the connection.
Mind if you can point a page for me, please? Thx.

>>159855356
>tells everything to everyone without even waiting for master's command

>>159837500
She looks like a giant chicken monster, except the head is her human upper body, or is her upper body replacing the monster's dick?.

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>>159873464
Nah Kabru is too fixated on removing all dungeons that at this point, he couldn't care less about the ramifications of his end goal since he views them as the source of most of his life's suffering.

>>159874484
She just wanted to diffuse the situation. After all, whatshername was going to kill Laius for being attacked by Toshiro.

>>159873285
>alternate dimension filled with infinite energy
That didn't really end well for folks from "Helck".

>>159874653
She made everything way worse.

>>159874484
This bothered me too.

>>159834803

I want to see the dog Kuro-chan fuck that cat

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>>159874803
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions" and so on. She clearly tries to be helpful, what a good kitty.

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>>159874484
>cats
>following directions
Hahahahahaha.

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>>159874923
>"good intentions"
>trying to be helpful
>"good kitty"

>>159855677
that would make Lynn a lesbian.

>>159854501
>actually had a period where magic basically exploded because one of the Gods of Magic beat the shit out of the other one and took over, which changed how magic worked from between 3rd edition D&D to 4th
Wasn't that 2e to 3e when Vecna fucked shit up?

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>>159874923
dumb cat poster!

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>>159874981
Well, she just heard and saw her master almost strangle a man's armor for practically no reason and tries her hardest to stay calm. No wonder her eyes look like that.

>>159875199
What a dumb doge.

>>159836847
who and what is this

If you look at it from Kabru's pov, he's not such a bad guy really. Just trying his best with limited information. Plus, Laius is OBJECTIVELY bad now, what with his unashamed usage of dark magic and all.

Kabru - Lawful good

>>159875362
I don't think Kabru's a bad character or guy (deep down) at all, though he is clearly twisted. I don't understand the hate he gets at all, I guess his party's overconfidence in their introduction really rubbed people the wrong way. Plus seeing him wipe out over and over was a fantastic gag.

>>159849649
>Kabru eats monsters whose kind supposedly ate people who were important to him, as vengeance
>Laius eats his own sister because he wants to know how she tastes like (and/or kills her to prevent her from eating people)

seriously though, Farlyn reminds me of Stephanie (from Salamander's OVA series, more specifically the 3rd EP), in that Farlyn could fill the role of a "damsel in distress". And when people do rescue her, it backfires really hard on the sorcerer (in Farlyn's case, she could gain some important knowledge about the dungeon that would help defeat the sorcerer).

>>159875362
"The governor is a lazy bitch." - Cabron, who kills a defenseless man after he surrenders.

>>159875362
>limited information
He jumps into conclusions way too fast. Most likely because he is an edgy faggot that wants to get mad on purpose.

>>159875473
B-but anon those corpse hunters were bad people so it's not murder despite the fact that they fed their bodies to the fish so their souls will be stuck in the dungeon forever!

>>159875473
He killed a heinous criminal.

>>159875488
He's just seen some shit, speedman. It's normal he'd have trust issues.

>>159873601
Nope. In that universe magic is supposed to come from their body. That's why they get mana sickness if they use too much magic and then eat food that replenishes mana. For them, borrowing magic from another dimensions is some grade-A mystical bullshit.
>>159873489
No, Marcille clearly explain the Dark Art and the problem isn't that she used dragon meat. It should be obvious from the fact that Farlyn is not transforming into a dragon. The energy from the mysterious dimension is responsible for mutating things and creating monsters. It was used on Farlyn and now she is a mutated monster.

>>159875354
The pilot chapter for Dungeon Meshi. It had a catgirl that didn't make it into the final version of the story.

>>159875539
He murdered a guy who was pressured by his buddies. That was also the same guy who revived him and almost told him about the treasure bugs, so he killed the nicest corpse hunter in an objectively evil way.

>>159856026
It's better than that thing you posted.

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>>159875301
>Well, she just heard and saw her master almost strangle a man's armor for practically no reason and tries her hardest to stay calm. No wonder her eyes look like that.

yeah, yeah dumb cat apologist...

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Maryville best girl

>>159875674
And yeah, like the anon >>159875531 said. He also tried to ensure that it was a permanent murder.

>>159875531
either Kabru kills the corrupt corpse hunters once, or he and his party get killed, and then the next parties said corpse hunters decide to attack (not counting the previous ones they could have attacked as well). Anyways, attacking adventurers do hinder the efforts to fight against the dungeons' monsters.

>>159875088
And?

>>159875880
The main difference is that the corpse hunters would've just brought them back to the surface to be revived. They only kill people so that they can rez them again and make money. Kabru just added to the dungeon's monsters since the corpse hunters' souls will just become ghosts.

>>159875882
thinking about it, this would also make Kabru a lesbian (he(?)'s already a womanizer). Wonder if he(?)'s tried to hit on Toshirou's party members already.

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>>159876112
>reverse trap Kabru

What are the chances that Kabru is the dark elf king?

zero

I ship senshi and birb cake.

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Oh shit I just realized the smoke from the fires they made are attracting dragon imouto's attention. Next chapter will probably be them confronting her.

>>159876439

I ship dog and cat, i hope they fuck

>>159876561
Dog and cat is bad ship, no badshipping allowed.

>>159876440
I just noticed in this picture that Chilchak's proximity to Tade is clearly causing impure thoughts.

>>159876744

I hope your ship sinks

>>159876561
Dog is retarded and can not legally consent.

>>159876824
You don't know the laws of the dungeon.

>>159876804
Maybe he just noticed the not-cute ninja.

>>159875362

> Plus, Laius is OBJECTIVELY bad now

Except Kabru doesn't even care about the whole dark magic bit, he even admitted that a lot of shit might be a misunderstanding on their part.

Regardless, what he wants is to see Laius's evil side in action, as long as Laius tries to defend his actions as justfied, Kabron won't be satisfied.

>>159841652
>>159841645
>>159841604
>>159841542
Does anyone have the template for these?