>I am the bone of my sword He says while literally drawing

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>I have created over a Thousand Blades, Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life.
>Literally did nothing but copying already existing swords.

Ian McKellen pls

>Who the fuck writes this garbage?
You are the one writing garbage bait. Get better.

>>159832385
How is it bait? He literally calls a bow and arrow a sword. Refute this.

>>159832259
>arrow

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>taking the literal meaning of any magic incantation

>>159832488
He's shooting a fucking sword.

>>159832883
>>159832904
These are true. You should have figured these 2 on your own OP.

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>>159832259
But swords have no bones

>>159832259

Poetry and prayer does this shit all the time.

>"My dear, my beautiful flower...."
>"For I am thy sheppard....."

no way your girlfriend is a flower nor are you a sheep herder

>>159832341
It makes sense tho.
>I have created over a Thousand Blades
He did, his copies are creations.
>Unknown to Death
They are infinite.
>Nor known to Life
They are not the original, and probably fade away after a while.

>>159832996

In my experience with magic you have to be as literal and specific as possible lest you end up fucking yourself

>>159833290
Hey you don't know me or my flower girlfriend. Stop making assumptions.

>>159833385
>In my experience with magic
Sazuga wizards

>>159832259
>Arrow
>you can't multi-task

>>159833385
>literally a mage made of swords, summoning from his own personal reality of a planet of infinite replicated swords, to shoot a sword out of a bow
>hurr durr dis has nuffin to do wif swords
m8 you can't can't even be a secondary cause secondaries at least watched UBW and know this at least. stop being purposefully retarded.

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>>159832883
Stop trying to pretend that "Bone of my Sword" exists because of a second deeper meaning and not just because Nasu fucked up English. The whole incantation only has one level: "Fucking Swords man, I'm made of them!". But somehow "My Bones are Swords" turned into what we know and love

Shirou chant>Archer chant
Engrish>Translation

Prove me wrong.

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I want Ian McKellen to do a dramatic reading of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHfyLv6t5to

>>159833385
https://youtu.be/06d_uZ21Z2g?t=1m22s

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>>159833252
Some do

>>159832259
This reminds me of Rurouni Kenshin so much. Anyone else?

>tfw introduce friend to Fate via Zero and then UBW
>tfw he's a filthy secondary
>tfw enjoy all his HOLY SHIT WHAT moments
>tfw his WAIT ARCHER IS FUCKING SHIROU WHAT THE FUCK moment was the best of them all
Worth it.

His favourite character was Cu though.

>>159834686
>His favourite character was Cu though
>friend
choose one

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>>159834760
>not liking best character in the entirety of Nasuverse

>>159832259
Well he is quite literally a living sword. Like His body is quite literally a sword

>>159832259

The writer whose brain is like a mollusc.

>>159832347
It was fucking hilarious.

>>159832259
A talentless hacks writes that garbage. He goes by the name of nasu.

>>159832259
>Who the fuck writes this garbage?
A cross between a mushroom and an eggplant, given life by the unholy powers of charlatanism.

>>159832259
He is a sword, and shoot a sword with his bow.
> I am the bone of my sword.
Make sense, just read the VN, or at least, finish UBW to understand, before posting.

>>159832259

Is a line from a eroge anon. Of course is retarded.

>>159832259
I know pretty much jack shit about fate
But I know this guy's name is Archer, his class is archer, and his ultimate ability is summoning a bunch of swords

That's retarded

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>>159832259
Caladbolg II is still a sword, doesn't matter if he's knocking it like an arrow.

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>>159836163
And one of the main characters is named Saber, and she's King Arthur and uses a sword instead of a sabre.
It's japanese, they're not experts of english. I'm sure you've seen people with chinese or japanese characters tattoo'd on themselves, ignorant of their meaning as well.

Archer is more of a "rogue" class for heroes that don't fit as anything else, not all of them use bows.

Emiya Archer still fires his bows quite a bit, though.

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>>159836223
>take a sword that can destroy an entire island
>turn it into a shitty nuke

Sasuga Faker

>>159836163
IRC the archer class only impies he uses projectiles same shit with gilgamesh

Anyone remember why archer could hold his ground in melee? I remember reading about it, somthing to do with him knowing the true name of his enemies and using a weird fighting style or a special skill of his

>>159836395
>Shitty
Did a good job blowing a new anus in Hercules in the visual novel.
Don't know why Nasu changed it so Herc blocked the attack in the anime, though.

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>>159836422
>Anyone remember why archer could hold his ground in melee?
He was trained by King Arthur and fought plenty of legendary heroes in a two week period.
He makes swords for a living, trained with swords the remainder of his life, and probably fought almost non-stop.
There's also this line from the VN that implies he draws out his weapon's techniques.
Obviously since he mainly uses Kanshou and Bakuya he can't do that with the two of them since they never really had a previous wielder.

>>159836422
Eye of the Mind. Quite literally combat precognition.

>>159834273
Those are called teeth

>>159832259
>Who the fuck writes this garbage?
Someone who probably doesn't speak English and who isn't even a particularly good writer in the first place.

>>159836739
Oh cool, do you know japanese?

>>159836775
Ask me again when I'm writing bad VNs in Japanese.

>>159836775
Fuck off underage.

>>159836422
Eye of the Mind intuition and experience allow him to get out of shitty situations
Clairvoyance allows him to observe enemy movements
Weird ass weapons
In the fight at the Church he even slips up on purposes to bait Cu

Is Shirou's affinity with swords a side effect of having Avalon (Excalibur's sheath) planted inside of him? On the possibility that this is true, did Nasu mention it in an interview or was it in the VN?

>>159837133
I forgot where is it stated, but yes. Original universe Shirou's Origin was supposed to be something else but Avalon changed it.

>>159837133
Yes.

Shirou's Origin was Sword from the start. His original affinity we don't know, but we do know that at least post-Fire, Avalon changed his Elemental Affinity to Sword as well. The combination of the two (Origin + Affinity) is a big part of what allows him to develop and thus manifest/utilise Unlimited Blade Works.

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>>159833379
>sees a poem about Archer's life, becoming the ideal, and then being betrayed by it
>can't die, in eternal hell where he goes against the very core of his being until every possible iteration of humanity dies off
>never truly lived his life, instead just blindly followed a borrowed ideal
>NAH, MUSSD BEE ABOUD SORDS

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>>159837462
pic related, true Emiya end.

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>>159837462
Emiya Shirou himself is a sword so it's okay. The only thing Swords are good for is killing and maybe in the kitchen.

Shirou's new life, parents, magecraft, affinity, and origin, even his name are all borrowed

He really is a Faker through and through

>>159837497
Cute picture.
I enjoy thinking about Chaldea's SoL shenanigans. It warms my heart, specially stuff such as the Emiya family being reunited or Arthuria and Mordred reconciling and finally becoming father and son and stuff like that.

so why did he went full Pucci

>>159832259
FSN is pretty shit in general, it's easily one of the worst things Nasu has ever written.

>>159834007

The point of the chant isn't that the swords are HIS bones, its that he is the core essence of all the swords he creates, because he HIMSELF is a sword.

This is fucking babbies first poetry analysis, go back to 8th grade.

so why is emyia a sword i still dont get it
is he not human?
is the disaster memory fake?

>>159837898
That's just a shirouface.

>>159838904
He's a human/scabbard hybrid. Kiritsugu magically implanted King Arthur's sheathe, Avalon, in him to save him from death because it has magical healing powers. This is why he was able to summon Saber in the first place.

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>>159838904
He was a human once but he loved swords so much he became swords.
You'll understand one day when the Heaven's Feel movie comes out.

>>159838904
He used to be a normal child, then he got fucked up by the grail sludge and fire after the 3rd grail war, and Kiritsugu saved him by implanting Avalon in him so he could recover from his fatal wounds. Somehow that whole ordeal warped his affinity to be swords

>>159837832
It truly is best timeline.

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>>159833252
>swords have no bones
This sword is made of bones.

>>159832259
Baiting aside, I just always assumed He used certain phrases to activate certain levels on his magic. The first line seems to be used with the most basic magic he has.

>>159838904
>so why is emyia a sword i still dont get it
>is he not human?
>is the disaster memory fake?

He is human, he just has a very alien/insane mindset.

His disaster memory is real. The fire was what reforged him into what he is "now".

He is a sword because he sees himself as one, and both his Origin and Alignment agree on it. His mental conception and image/projection of himself is not as a person, but as a weapon, a device for securing happiness for others and never for himself.

>>159839182
>Heaven's Feel
>cooking_and_harem_end.jpeg
>implying understanding comes from shitty adaptions of a single route
You're a lunatic.

>>159838613
>The point of the chant isn't that the swords are HIS bones, its that he is the core essence of all the swords he creates
So what you're saying is that either Nasu has fucked up English or that he doesn't understand symbology at all. Bones are not the core of one's being. Sasuga typemoonfags, you'll do anything to justify the most embarrassing pieces of writing.

>>159840966
>shitty adaptions
It's not even out yet, holy shit dude. If they're even half as faithful as they were with adapting UBW it'll be good though.

>>159832259
Caladbolg is a sword.

>>159841229
It's at most going to be two or three movies of maybe an hour and a half to two hours each. You cannot adapt a single route in that amount of time, period.

>>159841304
Why not? UBW did and it took the exact same amount of time as three movies excluding the opening and ending themes. If they keep the cooking and slice of life segments short, it'll definitely adapt everything.

>>159840966
I always thought the reason was much simpler that that. Japs think everything has a spirit and spirits naturally have a will. If a sheathe had a will, what would it desire? Naturally, it would desire swords. The sheathe's will influences his own desires.

>>159841075
Bones are what gives you shape, without bones, you'd be an amorphous blob (you might be one in either case actually), Shirou gives shape and form to the idea of swords in his mind. So in essence, he is the bone of his sword. Without him, his swords would have no form, they would just be ideas in his mind.

>>159841075
>Nasu has fucked up English
That's true. What a surprise, no?

>>159841372
I'm not going to argue point any further because there might be some nuance in regards to bones and skeletons symbology in Nippland that I'm not aware of. I also can't assume that anon's understanding of this is what Nasu intentioned as an author. Either way, I'll quietly retract my objections even though it is still a very off-putting quote to any sufficiently advanced English speaker.

>>159841446
Why are you even quoting this out of context?
The defensiveness of typemoonfags will never cease to surprise me. What a cancerous bunch.

>>159841800
>though it is still a very off-putting quote to any sufficiently advanced English speaker.

Only if you're not familiar with the Bible.

>>159841924
Leave it to nasufags to imply that the pieces of media that they consume that revolve around wanting to stick your dick in King Arthur are on the same level as the Bible. This is some next level shit right here, I don't even thing I've seen NGEfags sinking this low. You are the bone of your shitpost.

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Reminder that the whole of Type Moon and the Nasuverse are just a premise for a bunch of shitty pornographic dating sims in which semen powers magic.

I remember the explosion of popularity in 2005 when F/SN came out. At some point people started taking these wank games and their adaptations too seriously.

>>159841924
There's a difference between being familiar with the Bible and having random passages of it memorized.

On that matter: I, like many others (I can only assume), thought that the song title "The battle is to the strong" was simply broken English until I perused the Bible out of boredom and found the corresponding line of reference out of sheer coincidence: "The race is not to the swift" -> "The battle is not to the strong" -> "The battle is to the strong".
These aren't connections that ordinary people would be able to make, with or without significant familiarity.

So - which is the Biblical verse that corresponds to the 'bone of my sword' bit?

>>159836223
So how the hell are you supposed to use that as an actual sword?

>>159842203
The Torah sucks. Qu'ran sucks. Shit, the Mormon Bible sucks. What is your point? That because these things suck you're enlighten in your pursuit of Arthurian ass? You people are demented.

>>159842256
Same way Gilgamesh uses Ea.

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>>159842256
>So how the hell are you supposed to use that as an actual sword?

>>159832259
the only thing worse than hardcore fatefags is fate secondaries

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>>159833385
>In my experience with magic

>>159842150
Are you fucking retarded? Comparing similar phrasing between two works does not imply they are "on the same level".

>>159841304
Isn't it already confirmed to be three movies?

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>>159842256
You're not.
The original wasn't twisted like that. Archer himself modified it to be used as a projectile nuke.

>>159842352
I mean if it doesn't have slicy edges isn't it just more of a shitty drill

>>159841304
It's 3 movies of 2 hours and a half long.

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>>159842369
Now this is self-awareness I can respect. Ride on, you beautiful anon.

>>159842446
Why are you so simpleminded as to think that only similar phrasing is what makes literary works comparable?

>>159832488
Are you autistic? Did you read the VN?

It's a magical chant. Aside from that when he says he is the bone of his blade, he means it. His origin is a sword. His entire magic is based on swords. He grows swords inside his own body. And if you paid attention instead of being a dumbfuck you'd see that he doesn't shoot arrows, he shoots swords he created.

>>159833385
Read the fucking VN before talking about anything you dumb faggot. You have no idea what the rules for magic are in this world, so shut the fuck up and go read it dumbshit

>>159842610
What the fuck are you even going on about? Someone just pointed out that a phrase was similar to that used in the Bible, you're the one who started flipping out about them being "on the same level".

>>159842637
>Are you autistic? Did you read the VN?
>It's a magical chant.
>>159842669
>You have no idea what the rules for magic are in this world
i_ain't_got_to_explain_shit.jpg
Embarrassing.

>>159834686
>turn your friend into a filthy secondary for your own pleasure
You sick bastard.

>>159842709
>i_ain't_got_to_explain_shit.jpg

Yes. That's right faggot. Or were you legit planning on learning the magic of a fictional universe?

>>159842688
I'm not him, but I should like to know what that phrase is.

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>>159842688
This challenge has already been issued in this thread: please find the equivalent "bon o mai sod" Bible quote. If you are incapable of doing this, then your comparison with the Bible was not only unwarrented, it only served to show how much nasufags unironically evangelise this wankfest.

I'll be waiting.

>>159837493
It's not archer though. It Shirou. EMIYA failed to keep going and wanted to murder his teen self. Shirou hardened himself and never gave up because he had that promise of the sweet saber pussy waiting for him.

>>159842935
I'm not even the guy who made the comparison, I'm just pointing out how wholly nonsensical your "hurr bible comparisons how hidoi" sperg-out is

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>>159842782
>Or were you legit planning on learning the magic of a fictional universe?
If he read the VN he would know every detail about the magic of the Nasuverse, it goes really into detail about it, especially Rin and Shirou's internal monologues.
Shirou himself goes over the 'steps' of projection magic several times and the effect it has on his body.
Can't find the exact screenshot but at one point before this scene Shirou projects Kanshou and Bakuya and it nearly bursts one of his eyeballs out.

>>159838904
Read the fucking VN. All you other faggots spoonfeeding these dumbfaggots should be ashamed.

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>>159842962
>EMIYA failed to keep going

It sounds way cooler in Japanese
Possibly because I can't understand Japanese, but still

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>>159843090
I want to protect this smile!!

>>159843134
>says it in English
>It sounds way cooler in Japanese

>>159833252
>his sword doesn't have bones
Get a load of this boneless sword fag

>>159843164
I mean the Japanese version of the chant, obviously, you dumb cunt

>>159843013
Why are you still going on about this when I already clearly made my point? It doesn't matter that you're not that anon when you're defending anon's point. And if you are so adamant about it, please offer me a compelling argument instead of a shitpost. Because all that I'm doing in this post is just shitposting more in turn. Can you see the pattern here?

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>>159837493
>that brief touch of Saber's dress
My heart went doki doki.

>>159842797
>Rom. 12:21..........I am the body of Christ and satan has no power over me. I overcome evil with good.

Archer's incantation is styled after verses of the Bible and made into a prayer.

>>159843249
After Last Episode there is absolutely no way I can ever live with another pairing than Shirou x Saber.

>>159843090
EMIYA doesn't make it to Avalon. Shirou does. Don't let yourself blend the routes character development

>>159843212
I already clearly made my point too, why are you going on about it. All I said is that there's no point in freaking out when someone compares two things, one of which you don't like, because a comparison doesn't need to inherently place both things on the same level of quality

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>>159843296
I'm not a huge fan of Shirou x Saber, but I can admit that Last Episode is more than solid.

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>>159843249

>>159843308
They're the same fUCKING PERSON YOU DUMBASS.

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>>159843468
But they look totally different

>>159843468
They are not. Stop posting if you have nothing good to say, please.

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Shhhh, Seiba is sleeping.

>>159843532
I think she's dead, anon.

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>>159843514
I agree, we look nothing alike.

>>159843313
It is not a matter of me liking or disliking anything, although I understand why would you get that idea based on my posts. It's about how nonsensical these comparisons are, which they are, and the lengths to which nasufags go to justify just how good their porn games are.

>>159843292
>>Rom. 12:21
You're overreaching here and you know it, anon.

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>>159843532
But she's not even dressed for bed! Somebody should fix that.

>people are actually defending Nasu's writing during the fate era
Jesus Christ, I love fate/stay night a lot. But let's not pretend the ramblings of some shitty VN writer back in the early 2000s is an example good writing.

>>159843580
>You're overreaching here and you know it, anon.

Uh, no. It's pretty obvious the incantation is a prayer styled after verse, he even says "So I pray." Looks like you just don't want to be wrong.

>>159843762
F/SN seeks out to tackle man's quest for heroism and captures it through a series of methods including humanistic self-actualization and psychodynamic perspectives across multiple universes. Both of which are consistent themes throughout the whole novel.

It's deep. Get over it

>>159843818
>Uh, no.
Every fucking time.
>>>/r/eddit >>>/fa/cebook

>>159843954
Not an argument

>>159843986
>Not an argument
Yeah, that is the point. So is comparing
>I am the bone of my sword, I have created over a Thousand Blades, Unknown to Death, Nor known to Life.
to
>I am the body of Christ and satan has no power over me. I overcome evil with good.

What is the matter, anon? Haven't fapped to King Arthur today yet?

>>159832259
Nasu is autistic

>>159843762
Most of the issues have to do more with the overly literal translations that caused more translation issues than not

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>>159842935
>>159843954
>Hisokafag calling anyone Reddit

>>159843580
>so as I pray
>i-i-it's totally not a prayer guys!!!11!!

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>>159843934
And Eromanga tackles the lives of two orphans whose strives to live and captures it through the self-actualization within an industry of their careers, love that steers away from modern norms, and getting through trauma of losing loved ones as orphans. These themes are consistent throughout the novel.

Pretty deep this way isn't it?

>>159844392
It unironically is.

The incantation actually have multiple meanings with the ruby text together with the english chant.

>I am the bone of my sword
My body is made out of swords.
>Steel is my body and fire is my blood
My blood is of iron and my heart of glass.
>I have created over a thousand blades
I have overcome countless battlefields.
>Unknown to Death,
Not even once retreating,
>Nor known to Life.
Not even once being understood.
>Have withstood pain to create many weapons
He was always alone, intoxicated with victory in a hill of swords.
>Yet, those hands will never hold anything
Thus, his life has no meaning.
>So as I pray, Unlimited Blade Works.
That body was certainly made out of swords.

>>159844392
>Pretty deep this way
No? I haven't read or watched that but there is nothing deep about it based on your description

>>159844163
The original point was that you claimed "I am the bone of my sword" sounds wrong to native English speakers so I gotta assume you're not familiar with Christianity and "I am the body of Christ" sounds all kinds of fucked up to you.

>>159844480
That's a shit translation, it doesn't randomly switch to third person.

>>159844163
You tried really hard in this thread are you not worn out yet?

>>159844726
I'm pretty sure that's Shirou's one and the one "he" line is referring to Archer.

>>159836445

They nerfed Archer a lot in both Fate adaptations

>>159844365
Who are you quoting?
The point is that it is not a prayer or styled as one. The point is that according to anons in this thread, it was made to reference certain bible passages. So [citation needed].

>>159844660
I'm not even gonna ask you to suck my cock. I don't want to contract cancer.
Any variation of "I am [X] of [X]" would be just as easily acceptable.

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>>159844581
Oh, my bad, I guess I didn't grab better DEEP words. Because your sentence is pretty much "FS/N tackles a hero's journey by understanding one's self and through the perspective of other people." Because once you remove all the fluff from your sentence, it's pretty much: "it's a coming of age story."

But keep arguing about deep as if it's something objective.

I dunno why you guys are still bothering about the whole bible shit when you can just show how a lot of poems aren't taken literally.
>>159833290

>>159844916
>The point is that it is not a prayer
>So as I pray, UBW
Deep.

>>159844933
Give them a break, anon. This is literally Cognitive Dissonance: The Fandom.

>>159844933
Fate/stay night takes the set of ideals a lot of fictional stories just run with and says - "but the real world does not work that way" - setting up an indepth exploration on what could motivate person to pursue such a path, thereby deconstructing the idea of heroism and pragmatism and the idea of selfless actions for selfish reasons (namely the idea that the fulfillment of "saving people" can only come from people actually being in peril).

>>159844996
Meant to say:
>The point is not that if it is a prayer or styled as one.

>>159845076
>idea of selfless actions for selfish reasons (namely the idea that the fulfillment of "saving people" can only come from people actually being in peril).
I love Kotomine for this. One of the beginning scenes where Kotomine addresses and analyzes Shirou upon meeting him and says "Rejoice, your wish is fulfilled. A hero can't be a hero without people to save after all." implying Shirou wanted people to be in trouble so he could save them.
That triggered Shirou so hard and it was incredible.

>>159844916
You do realize that Archer's master, Rin, has a crucifix on her shirt and Archer himself has two crosses on his outfit, right?

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>>159832259
Perhaps this will help explain.

>>159845250
Also Archer's garbs are explicitly stated to be from the church.

>>159845076
>Fate/Stay night is a breakdown of ideals like heroism and pragmatism by setting it in realistic situations
Fucking kek. I love FS/N too but stop pretending big words will make it deep.

>>159832259
>shooting Caster with Caladbolg
He's saying Caladbolg's activation phrase there ("My core is twisted into madness"), compare with the same scene in the VN (the DEEN film went with it). Nasu's chuuni like that.

>>159845250
>>159845369
There was a mistake in that post. The poem is indeed meant as a prayer. Pointing those stylistic choices does not invalidate my original argument that it is only styled as a prayer, there is nothing comparable to it in the Bible, as some anons in this thread have suggested.

>>159845076
FSN's really about conquering yourself and it explores it in 3 different ways.

oneself as an ideal, struggling with oneself as an idea, and the friction between ideal and reality.

>>159845526
Except it is
>I am the body of Christ
>I am the bone of my sword

>>159845369
>Got the shroud of martin from currybutt.
>Did some assassin war stopping stealth missions in the middle east.
>Trained with swords long enough to become proficient at fighting off Servants.
>At some point, made a pact with the collective unconscious to become a Guardian after he dies in exchange for greater power.
This guy goes through so much shit after the grail war. I sort of want an OVA of all of this, but part of me knows the mystery is part of the charm.

>>159836309
Can anyone think of a better name for a sword-user ending in -er? Lancer, Rider, Caster, etc. all tell of their weapon of choice, Saber is just the name of a particular sword.

>>159845665
That's why I'd say do a post-UBW ova of Shirou dragging rin along, keep the path archer took a mystery but show "it could have been something like this"

>>159845732
Fencer maybe

>>159845624
Again, any permutation of "I am the [X] of [X]" is equality valid. And again, it doesn't account for the rest of the poem, which I assume was never Nasu's intention in the first place. But pedantic nasufags will always go to Hell and back to justify their shitty porn game writing. You suck at arguing, anon.

>>159844883
Nah, that's Archer's, Shirou's has "And thus, my life needs no meaning".

>>159845830
Nah, one thing you're not noticing and it's very subtle. Saber is the designated protagonist class, and it's also the one which is just the name of a weapon. Everything else is a "user of X" while saber is the weapon, they're the extensions of the protagonist, etc.

>>159845830
That implies rapiers only. Maybe Saber class just doesn't have anything that fits the mold

>>159845732
Sworder.

>>159845732
Sworder
Blader
Dagger
Slasher
Stabber
Cutter
Thruster
Slicer
Cleaver
Dicer

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>>159846219
Sworder and Blader are dumb, Dagger is once again a single weapon type, Thruster see pic related, and the rest all sound like psycho killer names.

>>159845732
Lancer don't tell their weapon of choice though, since most Lancers uses spears and only one servant so far actually has a lance.

Rename the main classes:

Saber
Archer
Lancer
Rider
Caster
Berserker
Assassin

>>159846500
Swordsman
Bowman
Spearman
Horseman
Faggot
Madman
Hassan

>>159846500
Fighter
Hunter
Sticker
Fucker
Conjurer
Madder
Sneaker

>>159846500
Most aren't bad

Swordsman
Archer
Lancer
Cavalry
Mage
Berserker
Hashshashin

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>>159846615
>Horseman

>>159846500
Sworder
Shooter
Poker
Cruiser
Mager
Rager
Murder

>>159846748
>>159846712
Would prefer Archer to be Ranger, since it goes along with their usage of ranged and melee weapons.

Since anybody from past, present or future can be a servant, why isn't there an alien from the year 500,000 whose phantasm is spaceships and lasers and shit?

>>159846815
>le
Fuck off, reddit.

>>159846929
Helena Blavatsky has a UFO Noble Phantasm while Altera from Extella is an alien.

>>159846929
Aliums don't exist

>>159846972
calling that sex appeal is insulting to her

it's would waifu and make sweet love while impregnating appeal

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>>159846815
I like you, anon.

>>159846929
Anyone that lived after 1900 isn't able to become a servant according to Nasu.

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>>159847059

>>159847091
Fakers don't count.

>>159846929
The world ends after a varying point.

>>159847091
Not a servant

>>159846929
because theyre not from earth

>>159836695
And what are teeth made from hmm?

>>159846933
Not him but LE stands for Last Episode which is the conclusion of Saber's route in Realta Nua, you retarded secondary

>>159842527
The edges of the drill ARE slicy. You hit things with it and they stop living.

>>159847226
Yeah, I was just pretending to be retarded.

>>159847091
EMIYA is a counter guardian that was forced under a temporary servant contract as both punishment and reward by the Ring of Deterrence.

>>159847202
https://www.livescience.com/33130-why-are-teeth-not-considered-bones.html

>>159843468
See
>>159843523

They are different. If you can't understand that go back and reread the VN. Try to understand the throne of heroes and counter guardians and such. EMIYA was once a Shirou but the Shirou we follow in the VN is not EMIYA. I don't know why idiots like you can't understand basic concepts, but perhaps you should chug some lighterfluid

>>159843068
>reading literal trash just so you can participate in autistic threads

>>159833252
but single edged blades do have spines.
and the spine is a series of bones.
the spine is the dull/flat end of the of the blade, opposite the sharp end.
dull can be a synonym for the mentally slow and shirou is duller than a sack of bricks.

Thus I do believe Shirou is the bone of his sword.
QED

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I want more hollow ataraxia to be translated so i can learn more about this male organ gorgan

>>159847583
Nice proof by substitution.
Makes it even better that Shirou is a "faker" who creates substitutions himself.

>>159847460
THEY WERE BOTH EMIYA SHIROU.
THEM DENYING TO BE THE OTHER PERSON IS PURELY BASED ON HOW THEY THINK.
DENYING EACHOTHER IS DENYING THEIR CURRENT IDEALS.
STOP TAKING EVERYTHING SO LITERAL
YOU
FUCKING
FAGGOT

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>>159847695
You're not wrong.

>>159848134
you're like two years late

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>>159848169
never forget that in all routes sakura is raped by shiji

>>159848159
Part of the reason the franchise can keeping going indefinitely is because of the parallel world butterfly effect crap. All parallel words exist simultaneously and are separate.
Emiya is version that became a counter guardian.
Fate shirou got to go to Avalon.
Prisma Shirou knows no magic at all, lives as a normal teenage boy, and gets sexually assaulted by two Illiyas daily. .

>>159848343
>Prisma Shirou knows no magic at all
uh what

>>159848274
I can see the appeal in damaged girls, but surely Nasu didn't have to put one in every single one of his works.

>>159848343
That doesn't deny that they're the same person, even if they're from parallel universes. Stop being so fucking technical. If you understand what's being said, there's no reason to be this nitpicky.

>>159848390
There are two Shirou's in Prisma Illiya.
The one from Illiya's world is a parody.
The one from Miyu's world is a bone of his sword.

>>159847059
Is that an actual in-universe restriction, or just Nasu's restriction on himself/the other writers working on TMverse?

>>159848343
Archer Emiya and Emiya Shirou's experiences are so closely similar that EMIYA already knows all the heroic spirits by name and planned out how to kill Shirou and also save the day. They may as well be the same person, so saying they're not is being fussy for the sake of an argument.

>>159848274
Sakura wins against Shinji's cock tho, he doesn't even count.

>>159848532
It's Nasu's explanation as to why there aren't any modern servants. He's never explicitly mentioned it in any of his works as far as I'm aware but it applies to every single thing Fate

>>159848532
Technology makes modern life so easy no one has a chance to become super well known.

>>159848532
It's not a hard rule, but it's applied almost universally with soft exceptions. Exceptions that come to mind: Mata Hari, Tesla, Edison. But, they are all persons that lived with one foot in pre-1900 and one foot in post-1900. Nobody born after 1900 seems to have naturally gone to the Throne as-of-yet.

>>159846008
Doesn't really matter, Archer implies bows but Gil is more of a railgun

>>159845884
You're wrong and you know it.

>>159837493
Why does his hair change though?

I WANT TO MARRY SHIROU AND MAKE HIM THE HAPPIEST PERSON IN THE WORLD

>>159847059
No, its more about the trend of Modern society lack of environment to create typical heroic spirits.

To become a heroic spirit, you must either have a superhuman legend that is believed widespread, be superhuman yourself, or be basically worshiped.

Modern humans are too cynical for that, and many technology made many feats seem far less impressive to modern humans, as they mostly attribute the feats to the technology.

Its actually more unlikely for some weapon/technology/item in the modern era to become a heroic spirit, especially if it possess a 'soul' in the first place.

>>159849398
Side effect of reinforcing himself too much.

>>159849398
Using too much projection magic without having a natural magic circuit (he makes magic circuits in his own spine/nervous system) will fuck you up hardcore.

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>>159849605
That, I think, is part of what makes Emiya Alter so sad. The proof that he's done everything possible is burned into his skin.

>>159849506
You know, that brings about a thought in my brain.

Wouldn't Nuclear Weaponry become a heroic spirit then?

>>159849940
Not human or likened to humans.

>>159849940
No, that's stupid.

>>159849940
inanimate objects need to habour a soul.

>>159849506
*more likely

>>159850044
But when on earth would an object have a soul then?

How would the average Servant fare against the average Dead Apostle?

>>159850130
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Nursery_Rhyme

>>159850130
typically wouldn't it form from the feelings of people, being imbued with a soul, or used to be actually a person?

>>159849506
what about industrial giants? would andrew jackson qualify? ghandi? hitler?
you'll have to excuse me I joined this fandom a week ago

>>159850270
Then, don't ask for the answers; find out for yourself. Read the stuff, play the games.

>>159850317
Heroic Spirits receive records of their copies' activities and various event. However the collection of records past and future is so damn vast that either accessing them or observing them doesn't mean much to them or all blend together.

Though when an aspect of heroic spirits copy is summoned into a servant container, they are typically only 'downloaded' with the minimum data to function in the era.

>>159850168
Poorly.

>>159849422
Shut the fuck up, Sakura, and spread your legs already.

>>159847059
>>159847149
>>159847267

You're confusing concepts here. Emiya was indeed a servant. Servants are the things summoned by the grail. Emiya was summoned by the grail, hence he is a servant.
What Emiya wasn't, which sets him apart from other servants, is a heroic spirit. Emiya didn't enter the throne because of his great renown and legend, but because his deal with the Earth made him into a counter guardian.
So Emiya wasn't a heroic spirit, but he was certainly a servant nonetheless. The original question still stands. While there aren't any (known) heroic spirits born after 1900, there could still be guardians from the future summoned as servants, just like Emiya.

>>159848707
That's an incredibly shitty argument, since it's the complete opposite of true. People like Trump, or even Zuckerberg, are known by more people today than the total number of people alive on earth during most servants' time periods.

>>159833252
Aren't EMIYAs sword in particular actually made of some dudes wife's bones

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Have you learned to appreciate LOSTman yet /a/ or are you still hung up on his design?

>>159852057
Being famous in the modern sense isn't the same as being a "legend"

When everyone is famous, no one is

>>159852560
That wasn't the argument I was replying to, though, was it?

>no one has a chance to become super well known

>>159834760
>doesn't like man's best friend
get out

>>159852264
It's a shit design.

>>159852651
Well the main point isn't just being well-known

>>159851959
Wouldn't that have more to do with catalysts? since Rin's pendant was his catalyst.

>>159846219
Swordsmaner

>>159842669

Excuse me, but are you a mage? No? Then shut the fuck up. Magic is an interdimensional constant in the vast web of reality that makes up the megaverse.

Every type of magic requires intense thought and a quick wit, or you will end up fucked. Take a Fireball spell for instance.

How would you conjure the fireball? Will you open a palm-sized portal in your hand to the Fire Dimension? Or perhaps you will manipulate the constants of air and create a spark to ignite a sphere of wind, then use another gust of wind to propel the sphere of fire.

I know you're a manaless plebian, but please, do use your head.

>>159847059

Because after 1900, heroes stopped being created. I mean can you think of an actual modern hero with enough fame and a well-known catalyst that could be summoned?

>>159856543
Give him a break, he may be a virgin but he hasn't reached age 30 like us. He's barely a babe.

>>159852264
He looks like trash AND his story is nothing special. Basically just rehashing designs of popular characters as always, you shitty GOfag.

>>159842416
came here to post this

>>159837832
It's fanfic-tier shit that actively ruins the whole tragedy of the Emiya family in F/Z, as well as Mordred/Saber's past. Shitty pandering of the highest degree that shouldn't be taken seriously.

>>159856701

Trump

>>159846500
Swordswinger
Swordsshooter
Swordthruster
Swordthruster on a horse
Magic Swordwinger
Crazy Swordswinger
Sneaky Swordswinger

>>159858761

What would trumps NP and class be

>>159858798
His NP would be a wall (barrier) with the magical energy cost payed by the enemy Masters.
Naturally he would be a Berserker cause he's insane.

>>159858798
Caster
Problematic Speech: Trumps words cause masters to shake uncontrollably and burst into fits taof tears and crying. They quickly begin to lose all rational thought and try to attack Trump directly while ignoring everything else.

>>159833379
Even if he produced swords for a million years he wouldn't have infinite swords

>>159859115
Does it matter? He can produce swords without limit, so it's infinite.

Why does EMIYA/SHIROU pretend they couldn't win against other servants with UBW? The only reason Gil gives so many servants problems is because of his fucking spam. So even if lancer or whatever is a master of his weapon, he still gets rekt by gil and thus UBW should also wreck him

>>159859175
>Why does EMIYA/SHIROU pretend they couldn't win against other servants with UBW?

When does he ever say he can't win against other servants with UBW?

>>159850168
The Servant stomps. Dead Apostles are regularly defeated by humans, so there's no feasible way that Servants wouldn't annihilate them.

>>159859175
Because GoB is super cheap to use compared to UBW. UBW lasts a short while and as shown by Cu, if you GIT GUD you can keep dodging that shit for 12 hours.

>>159859213
During his fight with Gilgamesh, Shirou says so. It's pretty stupid, and only there to make the protagonist not seem too OP when he is.

>>159859366
Because Shirou's not a fucking Servant, he's at a huge disadvantage compared to any of them just because of that

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If Shirou/Emiya can copy any sword instantaneously, and that's how he matches Gil, then why doesn't Gil just attack him with his best non-sword NPs (like lances, maces, etc)?

>>159859591
t. secondary

>>159849506
I think the best candidates for modern servants would be star athletes, at least if the basis is widespread admiration and ascent to legendary status. Muhammad Ali might make for a pretty solid servant.

There are also 20th century military personalities that might qualify. Patton and Rommel both meet most of the qualifications, including having legendary reputations that transcend reality.

Going a bit further back, how about wild west servants? There are plenty of famous cowboy types who'd fit right in. (Has that been done already in FGO or something?)

Oh, and also, we know that fictional characters qualify, so what about Batman or Goku or something? Or does people's awareness that they're not real ruin it?

>>159860128
A Jesse James heroic spirit would be interesting

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>>159852264
I like him but his FGO art is shit

>>159860260
I need a large image size of that Rin.

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>>159860454
Not out yet

>>159859366
>It's pretty stupid, and only there to make the protagonist not seem too OP when he is.
To be fair the only fights he's won was against Gilgamesh (heavy situational bonus), Black Berserker (same as above, as well as having Archer's arm grafted onto his body granting him Servant-tier abilities as well as ALL of Archer's techniques), and in Sparks Liner High using one moved specifically developed by Archer to best Saber.

>>159856701
After Sheakspeare being counted as a Caster, you could easily bend the rules enough for a crapton of 20th century servants.

>Hitler as Berserker
>General Patton as Rider
>Elvis as Caster
And so on.

>>159860537
>>159860260
He looks so much better in a suit than that Blade shit.

>>159856701
>Jfk
>Was even called Lancer by his secret service
>Lance is a giant fucking rocket
>We choose to be lancers not because it is easy, like being a saber, but because it is hard.

>>159832259
>so autistic he can remember every single little detail, including the history of every sword Gil shoots out at the speed of a bullet
>able to remember hundreds of different swords, down to the very smallest of details and their history in a split second to create UBW
Is Shirou the most autistic anime character ever created?

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>>159861706
He's up there but he's not as autistic as Soichirou.

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>>159861706
>autistic
it's just his fetish man, give him a break

>>159861850
It's all Avalon's fault.

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>>159861850
I love his monologues about swords. I wish there were more.

>>159842150
look TM is pretty bad, but its not bible levels of bad- literally babys first book

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>Tfw EMIYA will never find his ending unlike fate shirou
CLOSE Drive

>>159861767
but kuzuki-sensei is a perfectly well adjusted individual

>>159862292
He talks like a robot and feels absolutely no emotions. If you swapped him with Kirei during the 4th Grail War, Gilgamesh would lose his shit trying to figure him out.

>>159832259
Did he mean bane?

>>159860884
>Hitler as Berserker instead of Stalin
>Hitler not being a Caster

>>159846500

Bo.
Luke.
Kobe.
Daisy.
Harry.
Donald.
Hillary.

>>159862189
>babbys first book
If your first book was the Bible, you must have one hell of a literary baggage. So I don't really know what you're doing in these threads.

>>159846500
MC
Dick
Unlucky
Jobber1
Best Girl
Jobber2
Irrelevant

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>>159832259
Hrunting > Caladbolg

>>159862483
>what do you like
>hhm
>what do you want
>okay
>fuck you and fuck tokiomi
>i see

and thats how Gilgamesh gave up on having fun ever again

>>159862805
It does look way cooler

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>>159862805
High jumps > Hrunting

>>159862280
Thinking about timeline bullshit in the Nausverse pisses me off so much. Does that mean there are multiple, separate Emiyas that have completely different experiences? Or did only THAT Emiya become Archer? Why? What happens to the other Emiyas that become Archers nearly identical to him but with certain specific differences?
The moment they started introducing "alternate universe" Servants I began asking these questions and I fucking HATE it. It makes no sense, it's never explained and never will be.

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>>159862805

>>159852264
WE

>>159863429
>an infinite number of EMIYAs suddenly barges into Avalon

>>159858156
>Be me
>TFW I can no longer experience the feeling of loneliness
>Wizard going on Grand Wizard
I just come here to laugh at newfags at this point.

>>159863742
>Saber screams but it's too late. She is already filled with the bones of his swords

>>159863837
>experiencing feelings of any sort
Foolish flesh-bound souls. One day you will be one with me.

>>159858761
>hero

>>159859591
Because Gil couldn't pull them out fast enough. Once UBW was activated, Shirou was too fast for him. All Shirou had to do was keep cranking out as many cheap copies as possible because, even though they were garbage compared to the real thing, it was still enough to deflect them and eventually overtake Gil's Gate of Babylon spam. If Gil had Ea or some other powerful weapon out from the beginning or actually used the abilities of any of his NPs, he would've won, but he was too arrogant and by the time he realized he fucked up, it was too late. Not to mention that he considered Shirou beneath him and didn't think he'd need anything more than sword spam.

>>159836395
>nuke
>it pierced the island
???

>>159859158
He need mana to produce it. By himself he probably can do about a hundred at most. Even with UBW, he still can't maintain it forever

>>159867274
Still doesn't mean his swords aren't infinite. That's just a soft cap, if he had unlimited mana, he could produce infinite swords.

>>159832259
>Bone = Bow
>Sword = Arrow

>>159867274
>>159867454
I don't think you know what a reality marble is and what UBW does either.

>>159867686
I don't think you do. It's not called UNLIMITED Blade Works for nothing.

>>159868128
No, you don't. If you think producing swords inside the reality marble cost mana then you probably have been arguing non-sense this whole time.

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>>159832347

You just had to remind me of this.... Fucking cringed so hard I nearly shit myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8Px8-Thk0

>>159867274
No.

Actually, it takes no mana at all. What requires mana is summoning UBW.

>>159837832
>emiya family being reunited
You know that Kerry Assassin doesn't know Iri or Illya and doesn't care about them right? Iri know that and also that Illya isn't her Illya but she treats her as her daughter anyway
The only "family" reunited is the Emiya household so Seibah, Rin, Taiga and Emiya. Iri, Illya, Kuro and probably BB because she doesn't really care about anything probably join too

>>159868321
All magic costs mana, retard.

>>159832259
A hack.

>>159870259
Generalizing won't help yourself retard.

I'm calling you an idiot because you are. Inside UBW there is NO PENALTY in projecting swords it DOES NOT cost mana. The thing that COSTS MANA is maintaining the reality marble but when the mage is inside there is no penalty in projecting limitless swords, only maintaining the world for a period of time. So again, you are retarded.

>>159872205
>>159869290
That's why I said there is a cap on the blade he produced, capped by his mana. Just like the amount of weapons can be made on Earth is capped by steel. It is never truly infinite

And Archer doesn't have infinite mana, probably can only maintain it for a few min at most.

>>159872496
True but at long as he gets UBW up, it creates a bubble on the world, inside is all his mind so he can go fucking nuts with projecting a shitload of broken noble phantasms, he can probably even spam Caladbolg II without worrying about anything but possibly being caught in the blast himself.

>>159872559
>RM need to be casted
>Basically stand in front of enemy defenseless
It's one of the shittiest RM in Nasuverse. Even a Fake RM from Iskandar is better than UBW

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>>159872748
>>Basically stand in front of enemy defenseless
It only takes a couple seconds to cast. Once it's up, there's no better defence than constant, unceasing offence.
You're right though, considering how fast Servants move, those couple seconds could mean life or death. If DEEN's adaptation of the Archer vs. Berserker fight can be trusted though, Archer can "cast" UBW while moving around and fighting. He chants it with each different technique he uses on Berserker.

>>159872559
Outside the RM, he still needs to use mana to project swords

>>159832259
The bone and sword refers to his penis

>>159832259
It's just some Engrish gibberish that the writer thought sounded badass and didn't think about too hard.

Nothing more to it, he's kind of a retard. Fate is kind of a trashy series, if you haven't noticed.

>>159874592
Still somehow better than your favorite series.

>>159862805
>Hrunting

What the fuck is that

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>>159875018

>>159875018
Ever heard of Beowulf?

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>>159832259
This guy

>>159875018

Basic google search

>>159833252
He's the bone of his sword in the sense that he is the thing that holds the sword together. His projections are destroyed if he dies or loses his mental image.