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What the fuck is the big deal about Kimi No Na Wa?

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Watched this just earlier today on the recommendation of a friend who was gushing over it. I was less than impressed.

Then I took a look on its Wikipedia page and was utterly flabbergasted to find pic-related. The normie masses were this "wow"ed by babby's first time travel romance?
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Shinkai pander to normalfags.
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>>159802293

In no particular order:

>good plot
>characters actually acted like humans instead of robots
>good casting and voice acting
>twist is pretty good
>excellent visuals and music timing
>ends on a satisfying note

If I remember correctly, it has outsold every single Miyazaki film now and is one of the best sellers of all time for anime films.
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>>159802293
> on the recommendation of a friend who was gushing over it
> was utterly flabbergasted to find pic-related
>normie
Fuck off to wherever you came from, you cancerous newfag piece of shit.
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>>159802352
/thread

Its pretty mediocre but it panders to the normalfags' emotional state of mind.
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It's vanilla as shit and closer to a disney cartoon than other anime

also, fuck off normeddit
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>>159802436
He's right though

Only retards love this sort of shit movie
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>>159802530
Then why don't you love it?
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>>159802293
Its visually impressive if all you care about is animation. So its basically like most of Miyazakis movies since those hardly ever have anything but their visuals either. In fact, Kimo no na wa has more plot and character depth that the vast majority of Miyazakis films. It could have been an unprecedented masterpiece, but then it didn't stop after 60 minutes and started to go full fucking retard.
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>>159802530
I don't give a shit if he's right or wrong, he's a casual faggot who didn't know about a hugely popular anime that people have talked about every day for a year now. He needs to fuck off to wherever he came from.
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>>159802473
You're right, other anime is much much worse
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>>159802709
it's great that their sexual trope filters are working to keep anime casuals at bay
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>>159802834
I prefer to see them as stand-ins for substance and creativity, as opposed to filters, but you do you
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>>159802293
It's not bad but it was disappointing considering the praise it got
And the asspull was badly executed
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>>159802293
Its a movie anybody can walk in and enjoy pretty well. Its a simply love story that anybody can enjoy.
Sure it doesn't have niche appeal and will probably be forgotten about by most people in a couple years but its still a very worthwhile film. Not to mention its visually impressive.
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>>159802948
I prefer to see picky watchers as uncultured, as opposed to refined, but you do you
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>flabbergasted
Why do most people who use this word always come off as a huge faggot?
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The deal is that it's a normalfag movie with great production values and a happy ending.
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>>159803264
There's nothing cultured about being a sex-starved otaku into trashy dickbait shows
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>>159803349
sex, not violence, makes things more adult
sorry to burst your teenager bubble
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Koe no Katachi was a better anime than Kimi no Na wa.
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>>159803249
So it's a generic film that looks pretty like every anime film looks pretty?
It's boring and the only parts that were interesting were the few fanservice scenes
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>>159803552
This is categorically and demonstrably false.
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>>159802293
>normie
You need to go back, faggot.
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>>159803715

KnK enraged me due to everyone acting autistic.
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>>159803715
Counterpoint; they're both great but Your Name is grander and more breathtaking
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>>159802530
I went to the movie theatre when it came out and liked it. Don't be such a bitter cunt.
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>>159802668
>most of Miyazakis movies since those hardly ever have anything but their visuals either
>it could have been an unprecedented masterpiece, but then it didn't stop after 60 minutes and started to go full fucking retard
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>>159802469
>panders to the normalfags' emotional state of mind.
Which would be?
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>>159802293
Nice blog there nigger.
>normie
>not knowing already KnN's success already
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>>159802390
Its the most successful Japanese film of all time, by a huge margin, thank China for that.
If anything, this cements the fact that the Japanese anime industry is quickly becoming bigger than its film & TV series industries combined.
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>>159804771
People who don't romanticize nihilism and are able to form healthy long-lasting emotional bonds with other human beings
It's not surprising otaku are so bitter over the movie
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>>159803831
Ignoring how idiotic it is to use generic as a criticism, how the fuck could you even justify calling this movie generic?
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>>159804829
that's false because /a/ said anime is dying
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>>159804883
The irony is that anime would be dying if it weren't for the international market.
So /a/'s existence and popularity is partly why anime is not dead. Also look at r/anime's subscriber count history, its growing like crazy.
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Wew sure feels like summer in here
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>>159804843
spoken like a true dumb millennial
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How good are the visuals ? Is it as good as, say, Redline ?
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>>159804970
you have to go back
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>>159805016
Gen Y is actually chock full of lonely tech-savvy idiots, unable to interface properly with the world around them. If anything, the people I describe are the typical millennials.
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>>159802293
Please don't make threads about this normalfag movie.
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Hey, another one of these threads.
You're all fucking morons, I hope you are well aware of that.
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Do you faggots really care if what you're watching can be construed as something for normalfags? Why does it matter? It's as stupid as people hating shit for being popular. Outsiders have nothing to do with the movie/show so shut the fuck up about other people and talk about them on their own terms.
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>>159805396
real talk, it's a boring ass movie for virgins that think they know everything about life despite them being really young

like get over yourselves, seriously
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I hope with Kimi and Koe no Katachi's success a new age of anime movies is ushered in.
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>>159805579
Flying Witch > Sansha Sanyou > Shit > Anne Happy
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>>159802390
For what it's worth, the characters actually got a good bit of depth to them for such a short film, which made them interesting and easier to root for. Give me those two over self-insert LN protagonist niggers any day.
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It's a nice movie about self-discovery, searching for purpose, and taking control of your fate. It also has two likable, well-acted leads, the animation is really good, the story takes an interesting turn halfway through and ends on a positive note that isn't overly saccharine. I also really liked the way it dealt with dreams and déjà vu. It was just a comfy and relatable movie.
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>>159806163
Anne Happy > Flying Witch > Shit > Sansha Sanyou
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>>159804358
Because it reminded you of yourself?
Don't get me wrong, KnK was also a terrible movie. It didn't get the same kind of praise that Your Name did, though, so it's not really subject to the same criticism.

>>159804437
"Grander"? Literally babby's first time-travel romance lmao
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>>159805518
Fuck off crossboarder
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>>159806820
>"Grander"?
Yes. In scope, scale, and presentation.
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>>159802293
>normie
fuck off disgusting subhuman
though I agree with you
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>>159802293
Word of mouth always had a strong effect. Add the magic of memes in the internet age and you'll get "hype" which can literally make any mediocre content a bestseller. As for the awards and the critics, their opinions are worthless.
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>>159804869
Literally entry-level time travel romance
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>>159802436
lel, he is right. It is way worse than the hype it gets from normies.
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>>159807067
Say "literally" again, bitch
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>>159807067
And? Entry-level has nothing to do with quality. Talk about the actual content, assuming you have anything to say about that. Also, learn what literally means.
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>>159802293
I'm going to think of you when I buy the BD
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>>159807195
>entry level has nothing to do with quality
Really?
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Well, I can't speak for the "normie masses", hipsterfag, but how about I share what I liked about it?

>the drawings and animation are beautiful
>the protagonists are both human, understandable characters that actually feel real
>said protagonists are also given a nice deal of depth for a movie
>the relationship between the two builds steadily and in an enjoyable manner
>the twist is one of those punches that feels like it came out of nowhere, but was really hinted at the whole time
>the supernatural elements of the film doesn't impact the reality in a way that makes it feel "less" real
>the ending is just right; not overly mushy or retarded, but satisfying regardless

Not gonna lie, I fucking adored that movie despite being a negative, hopeless-feeling asocial asshole. I don't give a shit about what rewards it got or didn't get. I liked it, and that's what matters to me. You didn't like it, and that's all that should matter to you. Don't get assmad because you didn't like it while a lot of normies liked it; hipsters are retarded.
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>>159807357
Yes. A lot of factors can make something entry-level. For example, I know several people who got into anime because Casshern Sins played on Toonami or whatever the fuck. Are you going to go act like that show is terrible now because it was aired on American TV for normalfags to watch?
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I thought the gags were ok but when everyone in the theater laughed it made me not like it because they weren't appreciating the comedy on the intuitive level of Japanese culture. Ultimately this led me to not liking the movie as much either. Too much normalfags enjoying the movie for all the wrong reasons made me question if this movie was a genuine piece of work, or merely a quasi-Japanese film intended to appeal to westerners because it's foreign.

meh.
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>>159807195
Wanted to post to second this, actually. Pokemon is an "entry-level" RPG and monster-catch-and-train game. That doesn't mean that it's bad, by any stretch of the word.
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>>159807538
>Too much normalfags enjoying the movie for all the wrong reasons made me question if this movie was a genuine piece of work, or merely a quasi-Japanese film intended to appeal to westerners because it's foreign.
Alright, then judge for yourself. Think about your standards for a "quality movie". Did it meet them?
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>>159807794
no, it's a flick draped in pretenses to make it look "deeper" than it actually is
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>>159807871
All art is pretense
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>>159802293
This is what happened if anime reach normalfags
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>>159807871
Could you elaborate on this?
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>>159807918
>All millennial art is pretense
Watch Evangelion.
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>>159807995
If that's your first reference point for art, you might need to do a little more homework
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>>159807988
>muh red string of fate
>muh natural disaster to make an allusion to 3/11
>muh "social divide" between urbanites and those in the inaka
>muh shintoism
Shinkai just threw a bunch of shit at the wall and it worked
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>>159807987
It already did with Ghibli, Hosoda, and in one or two cases, Shinkai as well.
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>>159802293
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>>159807995
Would you want to rethink your example? It seems you've typed something that runs counter to your point and such mistakes can be understandably frustrating. I'm sure you'd be allowed to revise that because it was frankly really embarrassing.
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>>159808062
I wasn't talking about art in the first place, and it was in the context of art in anime, not art as a whole. >>159807918 brought up art.
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>>159808142
All human expression through a medium is art, dummy. The term denotes purpose and form, not quality.
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>>159805023
Absolutely not, Redline is a far better movie than Your Name in the visuals aspect.
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>>159808081
I'm sorry, by elaboration, I meant that you went in-depth about why you believed what you were saying. I wasn't asking for a vapid response cluttered with the misuse of the greentext function and an unhealthy dose of reductionism. Sorry for the confusion.
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>tfw no body swapping gf
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>tfw you get to enjoy Koe no Katachi, Kimi no Na wa, and Mary to Majo no Hana all in one year
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>>159808125
>>159808176
>>159808190
Not an argument. Not surprised your nameshitters can't properly defend their shit normie-bait anime.
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>>159808184
FAR better? Dang, ya think?
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>>159808081
Here, let me summarize Evangelion, then.
>muh robots
>muh emotionless robot and tsundere waifu
>muh "sensitive" protagonist
>muh apocalypse
>muh jizz all over my comatose classmate
>muh asshole dad who ruins everything

Anything can sound stupid the way you put it.
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>>159808225
How could there be a defense when there was no attack that was worth a damn?
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>>159808268

>>159807794
>>159807988
Poor attempts at challenging the objective opinion.
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>>159808326
>objective opinion
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>>159808215
>Mary to Majo no Hana
Literally what
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>>159808326
[hollow elitism intensifies]
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>>159808265
Difference is Evangelion is polarizing which automatically means it's deeper and sparks more thoughtful conversation even to this day while KnnW really doesn't have anything to talk about because it's shallow and unmemorable.
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>>159808326
>objective opinion
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>>159808403
Piss Christ was polarizing. That doesn't make it good.
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>>159808366
not!Ghibli movie made by Ghibli staff
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How can you people expect to have any kinds of discussions if all you have to say about the movie is "it's bad because I said so"? Can't you apes explain yourselves or are your thoughts just that shallow that you can't justify why you dislike it?
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>>159808434
Piss Christ looks amazing though unless you're a christfag
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>>159808403
>unmemorable
So you're blaming the movie for your shitty memory?
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>>159808517
No. It's kitsch and a shallow exercise in provocation.
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>>159806820
>"Grander"? Literally babby's first time-travel romance lmao

That doesn't refute his statement though and the statement itself isn't a negative. Objectively speaking, Kimi no na wa is grander than KnK because they were both made to be different types of films.
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>>159808525
No the movie was just not outstanding enough to merit me caring enough to remember it. Don't get it confused, I remember what happened in the movie but by memorable I mean it's not something I will fondly remember years from now. It's not timeless.
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>>159802293
It's the Despacito of anime
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>>159805133
this.
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>>159808434
Biblefag here. My nine year-old self actually laughed at Piss Christ because he could tell that it was just low-tier bait trying to rile up angry Christians. The only people who got mad at that shit were the same niggers who got fired up at Starbucks for the red Christmas cup meme.
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>>159808589
They were also both objective garbage, and Kimi No Na Wa is easier to laugh at due to how many more people it managed to sucker.
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>>159802293
Remember Angel Beats or Titanic? If you push the right buttons people will eat whatever garbage you produce, don't think too much about it because it's not worth your time really.
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>>159803715
KnK was the biggest let-down for me. I was expecting it to be as good if not better than Knnw.
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>>159808985
Really? Your Name had more acclaim from critics and fans. I saw both in theaters and went in expecting a good film, which I got, but not the kind of emotional rollercoaster that Your Name took me on.
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>>159808985
Koe no Katachi has much more niche appeal than KnNw. Obviously people who don't really see themselves in KnK isn't going to enjoy it more than the more broad appeal of KnNw.
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>>159809152
Yeah honestly KnK in some ways is taking on a bigger challenge than Your Name in how it presents a cast of characters that have committed incontrovertibly evil acts upon one another and asks you to empathize with their journeys to redemption. But then again, structurally, it's very simple in comparison.
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>>159802700
You shouldn't make assumptions like that. I don't know about it. My reason? I don't watch much anime; I come here to talk about manga.
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The Titanic of anime. Good movie that turned into a phenomenon for no real reason. Sometimes a good love story just sticks with the public because everyone loves a good love story. Its not some masterpiece and even Shinkai admits that. Which isn't a knock on Shinkai at all, not everything is going to be Spirited Away.

>normie
Youre a faggot and should leave.
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>>159809258
>their
Literally only one character seeks redemption, and that's part of what makes him the best of the lot. Everyone else was either actively continuing to be an asshole (Ueno), pretending that they didn't do anything (Kawai), running the fuck away whenever shit ran south (Sahara), or was standing around being a moe plot device instead of an actual character (Shouko).
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>>159802473
Remember

cartoon = anime
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>>159809409
>and even Shinkai admits that
Not gonna lie, the fact that he didn't get all pretentious about it (to the point of actively resisting the title of "the second Miyazaki") made me like the dude. He's alright. So's his stuff.
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>>159809568
It's just nip culture to always refuse praise. He only did his part, especially when he's being compared to Miyazaki.
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>>159809409
What is it about Spirited Away that makes everyone consider it to be a masterpiece? Is it the world building and animation? I'm not saying I dislike it. I just don't really find it to even be close to some of Miyazaki's greats like Castle of Cagliostro, Totoro, or Kiki's Delivery Service.
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>>159802293
Compared to the great many series that are about looking at girl's panties, being reborn in a world that sucks your cock constantly, that are literally about peeing on other people, or that are trying to hard to be edgy-- why wouldn't this win?

The anime medium is generally worse than other mediums, to the point where even a normal story without obnoxious falsities is going to win out. Kimi No Na Wa was by no means great, but it was pretty okay and much better than most anime airing this season.
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>>159809509
>standing around being a moe plot device instead of an actual character (Shouko).
not this shit again
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>>159809892
Moe=/=cute.
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>>159809892
Alright, mutefag, prove me wrong. The other KnKfags couldn't prove me wrong when I debated this in two months ago.
How does Shouko grow or develop meaningfully as a character in Koe no Katachi? Hell, how is she really a character at all, instead of a slapped-together bundle of cliches and woe?
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>>159802293

>Kimi No Na Wa

I don't know, maybe they didn't see the original with Jamie Lee Curtis.
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>>159810111
Not him, but

By merely existing, she puts a burden on everyone around her due to her deafness. Because of this, she becomes entirely passive as to not burden other people even further. Because of this passiveness, the people around her had a hard time getting close to her and empathizing with her, leading to more bullying. Then she saw her former bully, Ishida, become the victim of bullying as well. Her outburst towards Ishida is when Ishida finally learned the consequences of his actions which is a key theme in the movie.
Fast forward to when she meets Ishida again, she is still entirely passive, so when Ishida is obviously troubled by something she doesn't reach out to him as to not burden him or press him into doing something. After the bridge scene, due to her passiveness again, she sees Ishida break down in front of the entire group and push everyone away, and in turn hide his true feelings in front of Shouko. This pushed Shouko into thinking that Ishida and the people around her will never be happy if she is around and tried to kill herself.

After the suicide attempt, she takes Ueno's advice and becomes much more proactive, trying to repair all the relationships Ishida had with the group and goes out of her way to support Ishida.

Really the message of the movie is to stop being selfish with your own troubles and open up to others because keeping them to yourself just hurts others and yourself.
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>>159809509
I mean, they all deal with the problem in different ways, I don't see anything wrong with that.
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>>159810711
I havent seen KnK, but your summary doesnt make it sound interesting at all.

>passive girl
>misunderstandings that lead to suicide

Sounds awfully melodramatic.
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>>159809801
It's the one that made him a name worldwide.
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>>159810841
>pretending you're above melodrama
>on /a/
ell emm ayy oh
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>>159810833
Sahara was well-intentioned, but she's still fucking pathetic and an absolute coward. Then there's Ueno and Kawai. If you think that either of them "did nothing wrong", then you're either retarded or fucking psycho.
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>>159810711
>passive
So basically, not a character.
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>>159810989
>If you think that either of them "did nothing wrong", then you're either retarded or fucking psycho.
At what point of my post where I said the film "presents a cast of characters that have committed incontrovertibly evil acts upon one another" did it suggest to you I was absolving any them of responsibility for their actions?
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>>159811024
Passivity or timidity are common personality traits
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>>159810111
>How does Shouko grow or develop meaningfully as a character in Koe no Katachi?
She takes action while Ishida is in a come, and tries to bring the group back together. In the manga she also does other things which were from a cut sub-plot. She starts opening to people but by bit, and stops putting on the fake smile smiles. At the end she is dragging Ishida around the school and helping him deal with his problems. She is becoming more active and a part of the wolrd around her, same as Ishida
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>>159810841
Well yeah summaries aren't as interesting as the real thing.
She doesn't kill herself because of misunderstandings though. Ishida and her family IS burdened by her deafness. The answer wasn't killing herself but being open to a more supportive relationship with her loved ones.

>>159811024
Passiveness is a personality trait, and Shouko had her reasons for being passive.
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>>159811195
>Ishida and her family IS burdened by her deafness.
ARE*
fuck proofreading after I edit things
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>>159810841
>misunderstandings that lead to suicide
Yes, because suicide attempts irl are 100% logic driven and reasonable
>>159811024
>So basically, not a character
You're basically not a person if your logic is that basic
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When the fuck did this become a Koe no Cutachi thread?
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>>159811267
And you're basically a nigger.
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>>159802293
>pretty much everything it won was the animated category
it's like getting the best score in a special needs class
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>>159811332
Epic and hilarious.
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>>159810111
>The other KnKfags couldn't prove me wrong when I debated this in two months ago.
Funny, I debated this with somebody a week or two ago who used the same wording as you did.

>>159810711 covers a lot of why Shoko is passive.

She's intentionally withdrawn, in order to not impose on others, but she's carrying a massive amount of self-loathing. We don't know whether or not she knows her father left because she's deaf, so I won't necessarily attribute that to it. But she knows that her mom's a hardass for sure, and she quite possibly blames herself for that. She knows that her classmates gave her a hard time for her deafness, which contributes to her not liking herself. Hell, she probably blames herself for her sister being a delinquent and hanging around her instead of going to school. Then there's Shoya, who she clearly blames herself for.

But there's more to her than just self-loathing. Despite her condition, she's shown trying to be "normal" - and sometimes just being normal without intending to. She'll change her hair for (and even confess to) a boy she likes. She likes feeding the karp. She enjoys hanging out with friends. She gets into fights with her sister over fucking shampoo.

She's also kind. She realized before leaving that Shoya was starting to become hated, and she tried to ease the incoming pain as much as she could by cleaning his desk before he could see it. Kid!Shoya literally gave her no reason to want to help him, but she did - simply because she knew the pain of being disliked and didn't wish it on him.

I think that Shoko really is a character, not just a plot device. You want plot device, take a look at that asshole Kawai. She's pretty much there in tandem with Mashiba to force Ishida to confront his past.
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>>159811777
OP here. Koe no Katachi was fine, but it can also stay the fuck out of my topic.

So what makes the characters for Kimi No Na Wa?
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>>159812963
*what makes them good
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>>159802293
Yes, Anonymous. You're much smarter than everyone else. Congratulations.
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>>159812963
>>159813005
They're believable, likable, have firm foundations for how they act based on their environments and the people they're with, have decently established interests, are further fleshed out through the background details in their rooms and in off-handed remarks, have decent chemistry with their friends and great chemistry with each other, and they have great voice-acting and character-acting. When they are in each other's bodies, they still move, talk, and act in a way that's distinctly them.
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>>159813576
You've perfectly summarized why I like those characters.
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>>159813576
Taki had practically no characterization at all until the end when they hamfisted why he was so obsessed with the comet
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>>159813868
Do you lack an attention to detail or something?

He's pretty damn confident.

He's pretty hot-headed and easily agitated, as indicated by his boss, his friends, and his early interactions with Mitsuha.

He's diligent and hard-working, as indicated by his dedication to his work and his willingness to go the extra mile to build or create fun things for Mitsuha's friends - despite not being the one to stand to benefit from the in the long run.

He's helpful and loyal, as he makes a point to make Mitsuha stand up for herself when her classmates are whispering about her due to her father's shenanigans. He also gives Mitsuha's grandmother aid in traveling despite having no real connection to her.

He's extremely dedicated and determined, as indicated by the arguably unreasonable lengths that he goes to to track down Mitsuha after their connection is severed.

More on the "humorous" side, he has absolutely no qualms about "decency", as he self-gropes as Mitsuha multiple times and noticeably goes braless when in control of her body.


And I may have missed some more. I honestly can't see how anyone who watched the movie could say that Taki and Mitsuha were blank slates.
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>>159808184
Is this sarcasm ? The
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>>159813868
>loves architecture
>loves drawing
>doesn't have much of a relationship with his father or many friends
>he's aggressive and gets into fights
>works hard
>slightly perverted
>aggressive, getting into fights
>likes that waitress girl
>likes to keep his room tidy
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>>159814239
Mitsuha was a damsel in distress
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Despite all this time, I never actually seen Kimi No Na Who Are You Wario or whatever its name it, but I feel like if I were ever to see it, I'd be pretty let down simply because there's just too much attention, drivel and hype behind it for me to even consider it as worthy of so much attention.

Some day, I might watch it, but at the same time, I feel like I might come back to /a/ sooner or later while talking about how disappointing this movie's actually been. It might have time travelling involved or some deep shit written in order to make it stand out even further, but I feel like it's still going to end up being just a plain romance, a romance you usually see on your every day anime.
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>>159814594
Why can't you separate the people who like something from it? Just watch the movie and take it in for what it is. You should do that with everything or else you'll just come off like an idiot. It having the time travel shit isn't to make it seem deep or anything.
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>>159814479
>literally just going for the next target

Alright, I'll bite.

She's pretty damn shy and lacks self-confidence, but she's actually realistic about how her withdrawnness is portrayed. (Clams up in front of the people making her uncomfortable, vents about her problems when either nobody or somebody she's familiar with is around.)

She's a "village mouse" who wants to be able to see the city. (A little cliche, admittedly, but a cliche can be handled well.)

She can be kind of goofy in her thinking, as seen when her only objection to her sister's mock suggestion about selling their sake is the tax (rather than literally any other objection that could be raised against the idea).

She doesn't have many friends, but is close to the ones she has, and is dedicated to helping them, whether they're near or far.

She has a certain level of savviness that enables her to set Taki up with his boss. This also indicates her own kindness and dedication to people that she's friends with, despite her seemingly withdrawn and somewhat frustrated demeanor.

She actually grows out of her shyness due to her experiences with Taki and manages to soldier the rest of the way through the rescue process and the confrontation with her father, which enables her to save the village.


Did you want to accuse Mitsuha's sister of being a generic anime sister next?
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>>159814788

Fine, then I guess I'll spend my Saturday watching it and hope it does more than just add superficial stuff to a run-of-the-mill romance. I don't even want to sound like an idiot, but whenever people talk big about something, I just seem to hesitate and wonder if it's really that impressive or if they were simply wow'd by a single particular scene while the rest of the movie doesn't stand out as much. It happens more often than it should.
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>>159815020
I'd recommend just seeing hype and all that as just that people like the thing and to take into account that there's so many factors that could lead to someone liking something that said hype shit won't tell you anything about the movie or show or whatever.
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>>159815020
Blu-ray comes out in a little less than 2 weeks. Should probably hold out until then.
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>>159815219
>Blu-Ray
>dubs
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>>159815643
>dubs
I never said to watch it with the dub you mongoloid.
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>>159815643
He's referring to the Japanese bluray. Even if he was referring to the English ones, it would still have the Japanese version.
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>>159815731
>>159815753

Oh. Fuck, I didn't actually know that. Sorry.

Does the Japanese Bluray have subs? Will the English one have it? Which one's best for a relentless dubhater like me?
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>>159815893
I don't think the English one has a release date. Do you prefer to buy your anime or pirate it?
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>>159815893
Quick check that the blu-ray does have subs, but for some reason apparently it will replace the theme songs with the English version. Hopefully there's an option to have subs and original theme songs. If not, hopefully someone else will sub it.

Hopefully someone comes up to the task and tries encoding the 4k version.
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>>159815963
I'm normally a pirater, but I'll tribute things that I loved by actually buying them.

Would pirating actually be the better option in this case?

>>159815964
Hopefully. That sounds dumb.
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>>159816162
If you haven't watched it yet, you should probably just pirate when it comes out and like you said, contribute if you love it. The movie is popular and there's subs from inferior rips already, so a BD release from fansub groups shouldn't take too long.
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>>159802293
How to spot a normalfag in one simple step:
1) They say "normie" instead of "normalfag".
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>>159815018
He didn't say that she had no character, though. He just said that she was a damsel in distress, which is an annoying cliche.
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>>159802293
>I was less than impressed.
How old were you when the spark inside you died?
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