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Name a servant in fate that can defeat this guy

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Protip : You can't
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>Shirou's bitch
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>>159800415
Emiya
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>>159800415
Pancho villa
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>>159800415
archer gil vs. caster gil, who would win?
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>>159800476
>Chained
>Get ea'd

fuck off
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>>159800565
Look at the Zero baby, look at him and laugh. Even Sakura killed Gilgamesh.
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>>159800490
Is he a heroic spirit? How?
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This thread is cancer, but I feel the need to answer someone's legitimate question, so

>>159800516
As I recall, it's confirmed somewhere that Archer is Gil's strongest class. Beyond that - Caster Gil does not actually know how to cast. He's terrible at it, and only picked it for the ability to summon things or something like that.
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>>159800636
Holy shit F/SN was a terrible mistake.
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>>159800415
I'd say Siegfried, but the nasuverse idea of Siegfried is bullshit underpowered and totally out of character
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>>159800415
Merlin
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True Archer Heracles going HAM from the get go.
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>>159800736
Fate was a mistake, yes. Idk why it's picked up steam over the years but I really wish it'd die.
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>>159800636
he isnt serious PLUS he didnt even use enkidu i mean look at the end where he trapped shirou cant move one bit

>>159800764
Sumanai cant do shit

>>159800801
>Divinity
>Chained with Enkidu
>ded

weak out

>>159800804
>Chained
>Babylon'ed
>Ded

Out
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Stop falseflagging Melvin, we know it's you.
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>>159800736
Female Gilgamesh is better anyway.
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You know who could Beat Gilgamesh?
A more serious Gilgamesh.
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get out and stay out melvin
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>>159801060
so caster gilgamesh?
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Actual non-meme answer: Saber. This is undisputed, she defeats Gilgamesh at his full power when he's 100% serious.
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>>159800415
KING OF JOBBERS
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>>159800965
>m-muh serious
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>>159800415
Jesus
Solomon
Any God you name it
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>>159801128
Fuck if I know.
It's all down to Author's Privelage EX.
Because of how GoB works whether Gil wins or loses is up to if the author wants him to, He can pull out anything he needs if the author wills and it there'd be no backlash.
Want him to win against a Guy with an unbeatable attack? author makes him pull out some sort of reflector. No one complains, it makes sense. Him losing is also fair because it just means he didn't have something for that specific situation or didn't want to use it etc.
It's a pain to talk much like Lancelot's KoO, what does and doesn't it do, it's so fucking vague and contradictory that it's a pain to talk about since everything you say is up to interpretation, thus up to bias.
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>>159801260
Fuck off, Melvin or Melvin-related poster.
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>>159801332
What makes you think this is related to Melvin?
Just voicing a complaint I have about how GoB works and all the shitposting it causes.
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>>159801229
>divinity
enkidu
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>>159800565
>Enkidu
>Against someone without Divinity
Fuck off Secondary trash
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hakumen could beat gilgamesh
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>>159800415
SEX WITH SENSEI!
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>>159801741
I mean.
He is the white void, the cold steel, etc etc.
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>>159800415
For an evenly matched fight there is this pile of clay.
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Alkiedes from Fate Strange Fake could probably give him a run for his money, idk if he can beat him though
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>>159800965
>true archer heracles
>divinity
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>>159801161
>Gil
>100% serious
>ever
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An infested, hungry purple haired slut
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>>159802368
You're thinking archer/avenger alcides if you're talking about towel archer. He can't normally be summoned as a servant anyway. He's basically archer herc alter corrupted by mud. You're right that he has no divinity though, but normal archer herc would still have it.
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Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElYYdU9_nYA
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is Gil the Full Power Turn A of the Fate franchise i mean they even have the same power
>Can fuck the plaet
>Can summon shit to use from some vault
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>>159800415
Astro boy ofc
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>>159800415
Kuro with a harisen.
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>>159802545
he did say True Archer, which is his designation in Strange Fake, still that dude is broken. Jack came pretty close to beating him, but then he pulled Reincarnation Pandora out and it was GG
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>>159800415
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>>159802982
yeah, still From Hell was a pretty great NP, shows that Jack can actually have surprisingly high combat strength, especially against humans
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>>159800565
>implying iron chains can hold Emiya
Enkidu is garbage for anything that isn't divine.
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>>159801741
What can that faggot do against Ea though?
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>>159800636
Why didn't Gil just put his armor on instead of pulling out Ea?
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>>159803061
We all know that Towelman is going to job at some point, but lets just hope that the author takes him out in the final volume.
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>>159803237
Because he's fighting the main character. Why do people ask dumb questions? Everyone is going to job to Shirou, Sieg, etc... Fate is shit.
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>>159803372
>We all know that Towelman is going to job at some point
Even pretty obvious how
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>>159800415
>King of Jobbersâ„¢
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>>159803372
The end of Volume 4 was the perfect opportunity for him to job, but he actually pulled another NP out and beat Jack. If anything I think he's gonna job to Dumas' new NP he revealed and Clan Calatin
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>>159803687
I don't get it.
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>>159800415
Name a servant in fate that can be defeated by this guy:

Protip : You can't
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>>159803881
Both of their NP looks like linked. Probably some friendship magic bullshit
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>>159803687
I actually think >>159803850
is more likely, Towelman is probably gonna go down to humans. Even still though, he has like 10 unrevealed NP left, so I think he won't go down for a while
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>>159800415
Astolfo with all his NP's
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>>159800415
This
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>>159800415
Name one (1) good thing about fate other than the animation
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>>159800415
Lore wise conically Ishtar
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>>159804267
Top tier waifus and husbandos
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>>159803850
I only read the manga and some parts of the LN, is it true that Archer Herc has 12 NPs that came form his 12 labors?
>If anything I think he's gonna job to Dumas' new NP he revealed and Clan Calatin
Flat and Jack can't even take him out. What makes you think that a bunch of humans in uniform can kill Herc? Dumas just shits out powerful NPs but won't use it himself and who's gonna use the NP he made that is strong enough to beat Herc? The Police chief with Katana?
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>>159804368
The cliffhanger for Volume 4 of the LN is Dumas activating an NP called Musketeer's Masquerade, which could have something to do with powering up the police/his NP. And yeah he has NP for each of his labors plus more, I don't think Reincarnation Pandora, which lets him steal NP, is from one of his labors
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>>159804426
yeah he only gets Reincarnation Pandora from being an Avenger I think. Pretty broken too, he can steal any NP, not just weapon based ones
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Wait, Pandora is his EX NP?
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>>159800415
F/SN and F/HA were the only things that were needed to be done in Fate franchise. Maybe F/Z.
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>>159800415
Im pretty sure most servants can defeat Deermud
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>>159804426
>And yeah he has NP for each of his labors plus more
Then Herc is not going down anytime soon.
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>>159804568
I think so, its broken enough to be it, but not sure
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What has he used so far, I think he used the Girdle, The lion skin, the slaying of the birds, and cerberus, thats all i can remember off the top of my head
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>>159804649
But what he was supposed to use in forest then? It's pretty strange
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>>159805130
well he does have a shitton of NP, so it could have been something else, who knows
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pretty much every single grand servant

actually I can do better and just say a little japanese school boy
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>>159802545
>He can't normally be summoned as a servant anyway.
wrong, the grail just needs to allow Avengers i nthe war
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>>159804426
Shit where are the last couple parts of volume 4, I can't find them.
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>>159801614
Implying you NEED divinity to get bound. Getting immobilized for even a second is enough to turn you into a red stain.
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>>159805665
Haven't been translated yet. The whole volume should be finished in about a week and a half I think
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>>159801870
Alkeides probably wouldn't win, but he would force Goldy to be serious.
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>>159804476
We've yet to see whether there is a limit to it or not. It's pretty balanced if he can only use it once.
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>>159805602
That alone won't suffice.
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>>159805883
IDK he completely ignores GoB, he has that NP that can straight up steal other NP's so gilgamesh would straight up get EA stolen, and enkidu would do fuck all cause he has no divinity since that was shorn from him via grail mud shenanigans while still being stupidly stronk. I just don't see it.
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>>159806037
true, but I doubt he'd have used it on Jack if it was one time only, but I guess we'll see. maybe he wanted Gil to take out Ea so he could steal it in their first encounter
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>>159803850
>Dumas
Is Dantes gonna show up too?
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>>159806264
Him and his master are definitely gonna need a team effort to take down. Either their group or the Prelatis are gonna be endgame I think, whatever is possessing Filia is a possibility too
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>>159806288
its possible, strange fake is weird enough for it to happen. Dumas is pretty great though, continuing the tradition of writer casters being great
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Adult Gil x shotaGil doujins when?
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>>159806264
>I just don't see it.
Something like:
>can't steal EA blah blah blah Gaia blah blah
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>>159806334
WTF is Jester doing anyways, last i read he was dicking around with pale rider bullshit and if for some fucked reason the grail can do multiple wishes cause theres so much damn mana fed into it....
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>>159806408
He's in Tsubaki's dream and in her hospital room, influencing her to use Pale Rider to try and make Fake Assassin despair, since he gets off on that
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I just want SF adaptation for FREEDOM and other Faldeus memes
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>>159800415
Berserker (if he didn't have to protect her)
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>>159804279
Didn't Gil just tell Ishtar to fuck off and she got mad and told daddy and he killed Enkidu which made gil really fucking pissed? Her greatest achievment is being slut goddess. Also
>Divinity
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>>159806148
It will, because the Snowfield war doesn't allow Avengers Buzz had to go about the roundabout way to get him
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>>159800415
EMIYA not being fucked by the plot would do it like Shirou showed. Gil's too cocky to pull Ea against a faker and by the time he realizes he can't win without it he'll have a sword stuck between the eyes. He's also strong and fast enough and without divinity to shit on Enkidu plus projection.
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>>159800415
Sun Wu Kong.
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>>159806656
Gil would have at least worn fucking armor.
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>>159806525
that scene were True Assassin asks him for his motivation and he just says whatever it take for America was hilarious
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>>159800415
Any servant can defeat any other servant under the correct circumstances. Also Gilgamesh is weak due to his arrogance. His child form is much more dangerous than his adult cause he won't underestimate you.
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>>159806525
>claims to be an American patriot
>not blonde blue eyes
>don't even wear an American flag on his head
>summons a muslim servant
Can't wait for this faggot to die.
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>>159804568
It is 100%. None of the 12 labours had him meet Pandora (but Hippolyta does imply he actually faced her, so it's a part to the nasuverse that's OC).
I just wonder if he has a ''non-twisted'' version if it when he's sane. Kinda pissed that the regular Herc would be shafted again if not
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>>159806645
More or less, Ishtar wanted to fuck Gil, but he knew she killed everyone that fucked her so he told her to fuck off.

He got mad and sent the Bull of Heaven to wreak havoc Uruk, Gil and Enkidu killed the Bull together (with Enkidu throwing his underwear on Ishtar to gloat). Ishtar then convinced the gods that since Gil killed her Bull (a divine being) he had to lose something too, so they killed Enkidu.
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I hope we get more Hippolyta and Robo Edison next Volume
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>>159800415
Tristan is BEYOND SOLOMON LEVEL
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>>159803061
Do note that he's nerfed again in a way this time
>mystery = more power
>in SF mystery is dying so it = less power
Half of his NP's so far are sub-optimal because of it.
And he's still shitting on everyone
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>>159806375
I want a Stirner Caster.
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>>159807009
Hippolyta will get more exposition because of Penethilesia appearing in Agartha, don't know about robo ''Edison'' though
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>>159800415
I assume you mean serious Gilgamesh, otherwise anyone could beat him, since a friggin Japanese high schooler did.

Both King Hassan and Solomon can wreck Gilgamesh even if he fights them seriously from the start.
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>>159807208
What would his Noble Phantasm even be?
You know, the whole Grail War thing is a pretty big spook, made by three families for them to win. True egoistic man doesn't need any Grail to get what he wishes, he just makes it his.
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I highly doubt they would ever add him as a servant (even as an April Fool joke)

But if they do then Gil has no chance
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>>159807327
What about Lionheart, still in Enkidu's forest?
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>>159800415
Saber as long as she has Avalon to counter Ea.
Archer so long as he's
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>>159807853
Lionhart is in the house with Zealot, Ayaka, and Sigma, and Watcher I guess
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Godzilla
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>>159807869
Saber as long as she has Avalon to counter Ea.

Archer so long as he's not low on Mana. Gil himself considered Archer to be the biggest threat to him. It's why Shirou was able to beat Gil.

That's two.
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>>159807928
>Lionhart is in the house with Zealot, Ayaka, and Sigma, and Watcher I guess
I have no idea of what the fuck is going on now.
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>>159800415
Tamamo no Mae at full power.
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>>159804426
Can you read moonrunes are are there translations of book 4 out?
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>>159808075
All of Book 4 except part of the last chapter is translated
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>>159808046
Zealot, Richard, and Enkidu made an alliance. Then Zealot and Richard split from Enkidu for a bit, so he's still chilling in the forest with Wolf. Then Zealot ran into Sigma, who was stationed in some nice cabin under Francesca's orders, and they fight for a bit, Watcher is able to help him avoid attacks from Zealot. Then Richard and Ayaka show up, stop the fight, and now Sigma is in the alliance and they're waiting to make a move. Thats the short summary
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>>159807431
No they can't.
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>>159808295
Yes they can Gilfag.
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>>159807755
>MP&HG remake by UFO
>every character is replaced by their Nasuverse variant
>voiceover is left intact
Y/N?
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>>159806701
His head is unprotected
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>>159808381
Solomon did nothing except erase himself and king hassan couldn't even kill gawain.
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>>159800415
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>>159800415
Florence Nightingale using her NP


>Not only has this sublimated Nightingale's mentality, who ran into the battlefield and opposed death, but there is even connections to the concept of nurses as "angels in white that saves the sick and injured", which holds true in the modern days thanks to her own anecdotes. The huge upper body of the "Goddess of the White Cloth of Steel", which closely resembles Nightingale, appears as a vision and swings down her sword.

>Nightingale Pledge negates all toxicity and hostility within the effective range, disables all weapons and Noble Phantasms, and heals poison and bad status effects in the case of Servants. Swords fall from hands, guns shoot no bullets, bombs cease their chemical reactions, Magecraft stops working, and Noble Phantasms' true names are not released. A forcibly produced absolute safety zone. It also greatly heals the stamina and mana of selected targets.

She's stronk. She can just beat Gilgamesh up once her NP is in place
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>>159803237
Gilgamesh is retarded
>>159803562
It's in character for Gilgamesh to be a retarded jobber, sorry zerofag.
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>>159808897
>enkidu+some random np that specificly counters him = gg
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>>159803237
Even with his armor he'd get BTFO. His head is unprotected and he's in a field full of swords that can be mentally controlled and aimed at his unprotected head
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>>159803177
power of order hard enough
blitz, time killer
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Lancelot can beat him
Saber Alter and EMIYA Alter might be able to beat him as well
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>>159809115
How much stronger is Emiya Alter to the normal Archer Emiya?
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>>159807989
A very serious gilgamesh can judt use his claryvoince to predict what saber will do and nuke her from above. Avalon wont save her for much long.
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>>159800415
>Gilfags
Lancelot has canonically beaten your overrated meme servant
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>>159809227
A big deal. He's completely ruthless unlike EMIYA who retains a bit of his old self, and he has a gun that can shoot out projectiles that can put his literal reality marble inside your body and make your body into a field of swords
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>>159809391
Too bad everbody and their mothers can dodge bullets in Fate
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>>159809391
Why the fuck does he slowly transform into being Pucci
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Who is Leff? Was he an aspect of Beast?
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>>159800415
Heroic spirit Emiya
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>>159809672
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fuck off
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>>159809758
Do you seriously not have anyone better than Darius for your berserker class?
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>>159809866
I think the point is niggers
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>>159809758
>3 archers
>one of them is fucking Arjuna, whos meme tier and shittier then nearly all the 5*'s released in the meme NA version.
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>>159809536
Not if they are as arrogant as Gilgashit
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>>159806288
The Servant himself probably won't appear, but it's been strongly implied that he'll appear or be relevant in some way.
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>>159809252
Avalon shields from literally everything
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>enkidu
For the guy up there spamming this, even if it does work against Divinity, it's not guaranteed. Lots of them could easily break out of it too.
Solomon for sure as hell isn't getting affected by that.
Those Chains Don't guarantee a win against a divine creature. And will not hold them for long
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>>159808646
You do know Hassan was just toying with Gawain, right?
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>>159812573
Also wasn't enkidu technically also a divine creature? And also killed by a divine creature / God?
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>>159809758
Should be Schez instead of Emiya
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>>159801019
Angelica is best girl and has the best install.
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>>159812573
The stronger one's divinity, the stronger the chains will be.
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>>159812933
Doesn't mean the chains are invincible.
Even if they got stronger doesn't mean the person who's being tied up can't break out. That's if they hit in the first place also.
Even the chains have a limit to what they can effectively do.
You seem to think gilgamesh's some kind of invincible godslayer.

Even EA. It doesn't actually destroy the world it just reveals the back world. so there's also that.

And gil sure as hell isn't defeating any ultimate one, primate murder, beast, or grand servant.

Or any actual 'real' God for that matter
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>>159800415
Arturia.

Why does everyone forget this? She canonically beats him at his full power in THE MAIN FUCKING ROUTE OF THE ORIGINAL GAME. It doesn't get more decisively canon than that, guys.
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>>159813113
Yeah.

This guy seems to forget that Gilgamesh was in fact BTFO by the gods in his own myth. He wasn't able to kill any divine creature he wished. When the gods decided to cut him down to size there was literally nothing he could do about it.
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>>159808570
VERY yes
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>>159813147
It's only Fate/Zero babies who think Gil is omnipotent.
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>>159800415
>One punch
When Nasu starts running out of ideas for FGO he'll probably make her a servant for some contrived reason.
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>>159813147
But, that's Arturia with Avalon. Without it she can't stand up to even a 30% Enuma Elish hit, she needs to try and match it with Eksuukalibah, but otherwise yes she shits all over him with the sheath.
Hell, she probably shits all over a lot of servants with it.
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>>159813491
>But, that's Arturia with Avalon. Without it she can't stand up to even a 30% Enuma Elish hit,

And without Ea, Gil wouldn't be able to stand up to Saber without Avalon. How is that relevant?
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>>159813557
Because, in every place other than Fate, she doesn't have the sheath. She only beats him in that one circumstance
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>>159806693
>Sun Wukong
In all seriousness, this.
Gil can stop gods with a cheating chain, Wukong just beats the shit out of them with his own power. IIRC Nasu said he can't think of a way to include him/her as a servant because he'd be too OP.
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>>159813587
And in every other route except Fate, Gil is too overconfident, prideful, and downright lazy to give a fight his all until it's too late.

Every fucking time he dies it's because he was treating the guy he was fighting like a scrub and not taking him seriously.
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>>159813685
Wukong isn't even a big deal in his own work though. He is stronger than all of the early opponents, but he's forced to defeat all of the later ones by ploys or trickery because they are as strong as he is or stronger. In some cases, he is unable to win at all and only gets bailed out of the situation through the direct intervention of a higher power, like what happens with the one enemy that turns out to just be Laozi's ox empowered by a divine bracelet.
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>>159813845
Well obviously, he's a dumbfuck.
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>>159800415
Whatever servant the author wants him to job to.

I know of at least one mythical figure that could give him a hard time, but to my knowledge that one was not used in fate yet.

I wish the authors would spend even more time on explaining the history of the servants.
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>>159800415
Huang Di, the Yellow Emperor.

>Older than Gil.
>Has Dragons and other low-ranked divine-level beasts as pets.
>Also famed to have "all treasures of the world".
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>>159813878
I mean, yeah, duh. Nasu stated outright that if Gil got serious, he could end the Grail War in a single night. He's too busy playing the "Ooh, poor weak widdle Heroic Spirits wanna come at daddy Gilgamesh" game to realize that he's setting himself up for fucking failure.

Hell, he might have even been able to pull Ea in time to use it on Shirou in their fight, but the dumbfuck hesitated even after reaching for it.

Gil could get jobbed by fucking the Loli Assassin he's such a dumbfuck.
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>>159813859
Originally he's powerful enough to defeat pretty much the entire host of heaven and briefly holds back the Buddha's fingers which held the entire cosmos before being trapped and sealed under the mountain.
It's not really surprising that ancient chinese literature has inconsistent powerlevels.
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>>159814027
>Originally he's powerful enough to defeat pretty much the entire host of heaven

That's because the host that's sent against him at first is a bunch of chumps. Nezha and his father are the only ones among them who are remotely famous/worth a damn. It's rather telling that the being who puts Wukong to flight (right before he gets a mountain range dropped on him) once the Celestial Army gets reinforced is Erlang, who is hardly a major or important deity.

In terms of powerlevel in the setting, Wukong is basically a mid-rank combatant. He is far above any mortal, can crush most demons/monsters of terrestrial origin, and is decisively stronger than the Dragon Kings of the Four Oceans + most random Celestial Attendants. He is nothing compared to truly powerful beings like Buddha, Laozi, or the Jade Emperor, and second-rank gods like Guanyin are also far above him on the food chain.
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I like Gil because he jobs
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>>159814942
The eternal fuckup Gilgamesh is a wonderful man, worthy of respect.
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>>159800965
>he isn't serious
So what? Shirou still beat him. Therefore Shirou can beat Gilgamesh.
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>>159800415
what do i win?
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>>159800415
Sakura-chan tight virginal pussy >>> Gil ill-prepared cock
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>>159800516
Gil qualifies for Caster because technically he qualifies for Grand Caster as well through rank EX Clairvoyance. In reality, all he does is throw magical item out of the gate as "spells", and his territory/item construction are him getting stuffs out of the gate.
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>>159813456
>Nasu
>caring about DDD
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>>159815454
Gil fucked every 10/10 in his kingdom but that virginal, pure, untainted Sakura pussy was too much for him to handle.
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>>159815945
He also fucked some guys as well.
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>>159816090
Guys like Astolfo or guys like Kirei?
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>>159815945
Her hymen was broken by insects that laid eggs deep in there.
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>>159814002
Well that's specific Holy Grail War, there was no one strong enough to challenge him. And full decked-out saber with her spear shield and sword would out right destroy him any day even at his full power.
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>>159816153
Gil practiced Droit du seigneur a lot since he was bored, which meant he fucked newly wed brides.

However, sometimes he fucked the groom as well.
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>>159800965
I am pretty sure there is a range limit for enkidu. Archer herc could kill Gil easily.
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Help, please? Been trying to start reading the VNs on a mac through wineskin and just this tab opens up. What do.
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>>159815538
>Grand Caster
>"im not a grand" t.Gilgamesh
having EX clairvoyance doesent make you a grand
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>>159817068
He already tried that in SF
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>>159817473
Fuck off
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>>159815538
>Gil
>Grand
No
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>>159815945
That's because Sakura is THE WIFE.
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>>159819159
Servant Illya, Ea canonically gets fucked by Quintet Fire
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>>159800415
>gilfags exist
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>>159800415
Spartacus!
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>>159800415
Does Funny Vamp count?
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>>159819704
What happens if you tell him he is a tyranic oppressor of the weak?
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>>159820630
Could she even be summoned as a servant?
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>>159806701
Why didn't Gilgamesh just fucking punch Shirou? He has like B rank strength, he could cave in Shirou's skull easily.
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>>159812086
If you read the VN, you'd know that Avalon has to be timed perfectly, she can't stay in Avalon forever to stall out. If she was too far or too close to him when she blocked Enuma Elish, it was implied she would've lost the fight.
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>>159821879
Gilgamesh doesn't actually know how to fight.
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>>159800415
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>>159821792
she was a servant in extra, granted its on the moon
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>>159821879
Muh pride mongrels reeeeee

>>159822240
Factually false. He beats the fuck out of Saber in Fate in swordfighting.
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Gilfags are fucking disgusting. Probably kerryfags too.
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Vlad Tepes or Karna could both easily knock him down to size.

Papa Drac:
>Oh hey that GOB thing is pretty sweet how's it stop the 47 spears I just created inside your head?

Karna:
>Oh hey that GOB thing is pretty sweet too bad I'm fucking invincible
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>>159800415
Not a servant but he needed some help
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>>159817945
>>159817668
He said "qualifies for Grand Caster". What part of that is hard to understand?
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>>159808997
He's actually smarter than EMIYA, we know that much at least.
Fate/EXTRA material - Encyclopedia: All the World's Desire [Noble Phantasm], p.158-159 [T]
The more intelligent a being is, the more damage it does.
As far as the setting and lore are concerned, the Servant who would be hit with the least damage would be Archer, and Gilgamesh would be damaged the most.
You don't get rank EX Clairvoyance by being a fucktard.
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>>159823019
It literally says on Karna's page that Gilgamesh is his natural enemy.
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>>159823297
Cool, so he can be bait while Dracula makes Gil into shish kebab.
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>>159808570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa1pJuEdlt4
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>>159823376
You can't take abilities that literally.
Or Gilgamesh could just see into the future and see Dracula making spears in his head, and instead just swing Ea in the approximate direction across the city where Dracula is.
If you read the F/Z manga (portrays things much closer to the original LN than the anime), he literally cuts a dimension in half with that sword.
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>>159823452
Where, oh, WHERE the fuck does Gil have the ability to see the fucking future?
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>>159822755
No he doesn't
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>>159823506
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sha_Nagba_Imuru
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>>159823634
>Can see the future
>Dies to Shirou
Huh.
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>>159800415
Gilgamesh himself is pretty weak.
What makes him even a treath are both Ea and the chains of heaven.
Both that are OP weapons who doesn't even require skills to use, which just shows how much of a baby Gilgamesh really is.
Take those away from him and he is nothing. Even with all the other weapons he own.
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>>159823675
It's not just an ability, it's a NP in itself, meaning it's really fucking strong.
It's a retconned ability, obviously. F/GO is a huge shitfest.
I don't like it, but unfortunately it means it's official.
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don't know if he would be stronger or not but if we ever get genghis khan as a servant, it be kina funny if he mishears gils insult of calling people "mongrel" as "mongol" and in turn take it as a complement
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>>159823782
The pun would be lost in Japanese.
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>>159823695
His other weapons cleave away mountains when shot and are rank A++ weapons stronger than what most servants have.
In Fate route, it's described weapons he own are even stronger than the same versions that other servants have. Hell, he destroyed the projected Caliburn that cut through God Hand instantly with Merodach.
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>>159809032
Enkidu is anti-divine binding. But how fast is it? Is it faster than Karna? Enkidu has only been used against slow melee characters so far. I doubt it can do anything against a person who can move at fast speed and can fire at range.
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>>159823959
It's the whole reason why Karna and Heracles have Gilgamesh listed as their natural enemy on their pages.
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>>159823959
>>159824020
And Cu Chulainn's natural enemy too. It's a huge Fuck You to anything that's divine.
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Gil is fucking Worf: he exists just to show how powerful the ACTUAL threat is. Any number of REAL servants could remove him with ease, please choose from the following list:

>Hercules, who's been confirmed to be able to beat Gil from many sources
>Beowulf, who's so powerful that Noble Phantasms break when he uses them
>Lancelot, who's actually beaten him in story
>Vladd III, who's NP is absurd in-universe by itself.
>OG Hassan, who does what he wants
>Scathach
>Merlin, the Grand Caster
>Solomon
>The Pale Rider
>Ozymandias, who's got an even dumber NP than most other servants.
>Emiya, who HAS beaten him
>Enkidu, his equal anyway.

I immediately discount anyone who defends Gil against any of the above individuals, because that tells me that YOU DON'T READ SOURCE MATERIAL
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>>159824108
F/SN and F/Z are the only ones that matter since powers go all the way to the shitters after that, and nothing makes sense.
F/GO and all the shit that's come from it has given the guy Clairvoyance that qualifies as a rank EX noble phantasm (not ability, NP). Logically, that makes him invincible.
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>>159802958
I've always thought that she doesn't look very good in twin tails.
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>>159824357
>Logically, that makes him invincible
He's lost several fights in F/GO, and his Clairvoyance ability is sketchy anyway since it never seems to do any good in a fight whenever it's brought up. He seems to only ever use it for stupid shit like "What am I doing in some alternate reality right now?"

Meanwhile, real servants like Ozy, Vlad, and Herc have actual feats to back up their claims.
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>>159824479
what's Vlad's feats
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>>159824634
>High-stat Lancer-class servant who's been compared to Herc in terms of power, is able to summon spear anywhere within his established 'territory' (even within other enemies).
>Inside Romania, his stats are further boosted and his NP treats the whole country as his territory, letting him theoretically impale individuals miles away with countless spears
>Karna was the closest thing to a threat to Vlad, and still wasn't good enough to actually hurt him
>If forced into using Legend of Dracula, his WEAKER form, he is still a big enough threat that Ruler had to order every servant present to team up against him
>Would have won that battle if it wasn't for Kotomine showing up with Vlad's ONE weakness (And it didn't help that Vlad's master here fucked up horribly).

It's almost like you've not read Apocrypha, anon.
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>>159823738
It's useless because the retard ignores any outcome that ends with his death
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>>159823241
Yet Gilgamesh is a fucktard who managed to lose to Sakura while having the upper hand.

You can't deny this
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can someone post that pic of jesus' parameters as a Servant
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>>159802451
>implying gil is never serious
>will use the 'he wasn't serious' defense when it serves them
why are gilfags so fucking cancerous
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Assassin EMIYA and Lancer Arthuria
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>>159824897
>Karna was the closest thing to a threat to Vlad, and still wasn't good enough to actually hurt him
lel are you romanian
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>>159825732
No, I've read Apocrypha. By the sound of it, you haven't.
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>>159813898
Fate isn't about the heroes lives. If you want that go read up on their history/myth.
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>>159814002
A full powered archer Heracles could fuck up gil hard.
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>>159817718
You miss the part where Heracles is severely nerfed due to Grail mud? Or him saying that without Ea Gil can do fuck all. And even if he did bring out Ea herc can just steal it with his NP?
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Can Achilles' 1v1 me faggot work and nullifies Enkidu, Ea and Gob so he can go manly fisticuffs with Gil?
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>>159823949
All those weapons do fuck all against herc when he can use his NP. All those weapons fuck all against karna. Saber avoids his shit with Avalon. Gil seems like a strong character but in fact is a weakass fuck doll. Which is why he's jobbed nearly every time he tries to do anything
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>>159824357
Kek. This just shows how retarded you are. Powerlevels are bullshit. And powerlevels in fate have always been even bigger bullshit.
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>>159825732
Did you even read it? Or are you just parroting what some anons mention? Fucking dirty secondary I hope you get raped
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>>159814521
Where did you get your info from? Erlang was known as the greatest general of heaven in the novel. Also they needed a lot of help to capture him and they couldn't even kill him.

The jade emperor couldn't do shit to him and have to ask Buddha for help.

He did struggle later on in the journey but it's mostly cause his enemy have some op ass object against him, in term of fighting only erlang can match him and erlang is like the strongest fighting god in heaven not counting those other God with op item or the Buddha side.
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>>159826359
>>159825786
>Vladfags exist
Karna was not serious during that fight, hell, he never even considered using VS against him.
>Dracula Vlad is weaker than normal Vlad
Fucking liars in 4chan I swear. Dracula is vastly more powerful than Vlad since his fame bonus is so absurd for being a figure known to the whole world compared to his normal self which only gets bonus in Romania. He even shrugged away multiple servants (including Karna which was suprised by what happened) in that form.
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>>159828470
To add to it, remember that those servants was actually boosted by Jeanne's CS so that they will not hold back in destroying Dracula but he was still powerful enought to reach the fucking grail and would have succeed if not for Yami Marik exorcising his ass.
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>>159800415
Prisma Illya
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>>159828555
That's the whole point, and it's what >>159828470
doesn't seem to get: Vlad was unstoppable until Not-Shirou blew a hole in his chest: every single servant present was largely a fly to him, and since he had Kazikli Bey locked away, this was easily his weaker form.
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>>159800415
Don Quixote
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>>159828671
The Dracula Vlad was the unstoppable one because his Fame bonus is the most absurd one among any servants known, normal Vlad is not, hell it was said he would be just an average servant if not for his Territory bonus, which was the reason he cannot fight karna evenly inside the Hanging Gardens since it's outside his territory. The only reason Vlad never wanted to use it is because he hates everything about the legend of dracula being a perverted version of his life and that it will make him not Vlad anymore(which actually happened as expected of being a lancer).
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>>159813685
They nerfed Karna, surely there's a way to nerf Wukong if they want tow
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