Is the message of Evangelion "Dont turn a depressed teenager

No.

No, that's Monogatari series SS's message. This series message is "Congratulations!"

>>159800141
Congratulations for what? Being a worthless piece of shit crybaby?

No.
Its "get into the fucking robot so you can sit there and go into sperg euphoria while the world ends".

>>159797965
"They" refers to the otaku audience. Anno wants these stupid otaku to just die.
With Asuka and Rei, he created the most possibly unappealing characters, but people made them their waifus and argue about who is better regardless, to this day.
Or was that only the rebuilds' message?

>>159797965
The message of the story is that you can give your child everything in the world but he'll still be a fucking coward and hate you if your wife turns into a robot.

>>159797965
No. The message is "stop being a self-centered depressed faggot and man up"

>>159797965
its 'don't use your own unhappiness to justify doing things that are making you unhappy'

>>159797965
I got "relationships are worth the pain of opening up to others"

>>159797965
The message of Eva is "Anime can still make money"

There is nothing else to be gained from it

>>159800235
>Asuka
>handler ignores you because you don't have a penis
>sync rate hits 0
>mind raped by Arael
>guy you love shot and killed by your employer
>try to kill yourself
>go into coma
>wake up
>dried semen on your leg
>you still get in the fucking robot
>fight off an army
>fight 9 other giant robots that are functionally immortal
>never give up
>never cry

>>159800463
>I got "relationships are worth the pain of opening up to others"
Dis nigga got it.

>>159800803
>try to kill yourself
When did that happen?
And what was the method?

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>>159800958
The bathtub scene. There's debate whether she slit her wrists or not, but she was very much intending to die. If not from blood loss, then starvation.

>>159801150
Oh, so that was the purpose of that scene.

>>159800463
>>159800357
These.
The message is easy to understand and simple if you guys had ever left your cave and lived a bit in the real world.

>>159801150
>>159800803
Wasn't shinji the one that told Asuka "lol Kaji's dead" and then fucked of to flirt with the angel boy?

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>159801256
>falling for decade old memes

The message is explicit. "I hate myself but maybe I can learn to love myself". Everything else is Anno's avant garde masturbation.

>>159800141
Conglaturation !!!
You have compelted a great game.
And prooved the justice of our culture.
Now go and rest our heroes !

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>>159797965
No. But good try anon.
For our efforts, a bear.

>>159801327
Yes. In some theories the first chocking scene happened some time in between.
So shinji got her depressed enough to want to kill herself, tried to murder her and went to be gay with an angel while she was killing herself.

Trully a paragon of righteousness.

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>>159802082
>shinji self-inserts telling me this scene is incredibly romantic
laff

>message
>Evangelion
Kek it's just a bunch of themes slapped on the wall to prop up the animation and characters, eva is entirely meaningless fluff.

>>159802153
It is, shinji noticed asuka chocking fetish during instrumentality and went for it. She in turn caress him as she ogarsms.

How did you not get it :^)

>>159802153
>Next person to emerge from the goop is an incredibly enlightened Chad
>Got through instrumentality with no problems because his goal was pussy, and there was no pussy in the goop
>Makes a beeline for the red-haired bitch getting choked

>>159800463
>>159800858
How could this be the message when shinji never mans up at all?
At best, he is forced into finally doing something by rei, or ranted at by misato until the "theme" flashes across the screen.
>>159802153
Even this scene proves that point. To the very end shinji refused to blend together with the rest of society, the only semblance of any growth is that he brought asuka with him, likely so he could masturbate in the post-apocalypse.

Was asuka saying the truth about having a college degree? What kind of degree could she even get as a 13 year old? She didnt seem to be that bright.

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>>159797965
The message is humans suck

>>159804123
She's booksmart. And she's also a captain in the German airforce. Maybe the fact that Kaji hooked up with some bitch immediately after landing in Japan caused her motivation to drop. I feel like a lot of what she accomplished was because of her desire to stand next to him as an equal.

If you had given me omnipotentence when I was 14, there would be billions dead.

I was edgy as fuck at that age.

>>159804775
like no one knew that.

>>159805620
All the women younger than me would still exist.

>>159802153
The impression I got was that as a result of the entire ordeal, Asuka and Shinji were left broken and vulnerable. All this Freud stuff before shows how much they intellectually despise each other despite an unconscious mutual lust. It is uncomfortable to get close together, but they were forced to under these remarkable circumstances. With their psychological shields left shattered, their love is exposed and able to... well, blossom.
It's quite romantic.

>>159806378
Except there's absolutely no love there, as stated in both the show and by the staff.

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>>159806378
Yeah your impression is wrong.
>S:Wow I've been alone for so long
>S:Hey look it's Asuka
>S:There's no way it could really be her
>S:So it must be another delusion
>S:I must kill it
>S:I keep seeing Rei, I can't be seeing Asuka now too
>S:GO AWAY GO AWAY GO AWAY
>(choking Asuka)
>A:Nigga I'm real!
>A:Feel the warmth of my hand.
>A:I ain't gonna hurt you.
>A:I literally have no clue what's happening so don't fucking kill me
>S:Holy fuck I'm killing a person
>S:The one person that I've seen since Rei became giant and grew a vagina on her forehead
>S:It's my frenemy and colleague, Asuka
>S:Wow I almost fucking killed Asuka
>S:Again
>S:Shit
>(stops choking)
>(Shinji crying)
>(Asuka laying there)
>(Motionless because she just had the life choked out of her)
>A:Why the fuck he cryin'?
>A:Nigga tried to strangle me, and he crying?
>A:"Shinji, you're fucking pathetic."

Why is it hard for Shinji self-inserts to imagine that they're acting like regular people in that situation and not playing out some convoluted 5deep10u stageplay?

>>159797965
The message is literally "just bee urself breh"

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>>159806378
>Shinji choking the shit out of Asuka
>hurr so romantic :^)
Kill yourself.

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>>159809231
He's probably one of those faggots that sees Asuka in 3.33 and goes "aww so tsundere".

>>159809231
You're right, it's not romantic, but more. It's erotic.

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>>159797965
No, because a depressed teenager was the best case scenario out of everybody that wanted to be god.

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>People claim to like Asuka
>Ship her with the worst mass-murdering scum in existence

>>159809580
True Asukafags don't ship.
She says she would rather die than be with Shinji in instrumentality.

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>>159797965
There were a lot of messages.
Case 1

Reminder that Asukashippers are Shingeki no Kyojinfags and spam their threads too:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/159760214/#159773726

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>>159809643
Case 2

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Case 3

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>>159809556
>You and your husband are top tier humans
>Logically your offspring would the most qualified to become god
>tfw you get Shinji

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Case 4

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Case 5
In essence, Anno is in many ways a genius, and anyone who says otherwise has completely glanced over the many intricate elements depicted in Eva and instead viewed the show purely on a surface-level basis.

>>159809669
>SnK threads
I never thought there were a lower point on /a/ than TG threads, until I went to an SnK one.
I hadn't read the manga since 1st season so naturally I caught up and decided to hit up a thread. I posted a couple questions and a few predictions and got about 10 replies about why I'm a delusional ____shipper and not reading the source material. Despite the fact that my fucking post says "I finally caught up on...".

>>159809818
>instead viewed the show purely on a surface-level basis.
Yeah because it's not like you're pulling explicit quotes or anything. That's totally not surface-level at all.

>>159800235
>Anno wants these stupid otaku to just die.
I want this meme to die.

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>>159809933
There are many non-explicit messages.
>the quotes are "explicit"
>therefore they don't mean anything
People like you are the ones flabbergasted in regards to why Shinji acted the way he did - you completely miss any detail of the show, explicit or not.

>>159809732
> Be apiarist
> Get the two most successful honeybee species in the world
> breed them
> Logically they should get the industriousness of one and the cool friendly demeanor of the other
> tfw you get Killer bees

>>159810085
>>therefore they don't mean anything
Who the fuck said this? I'm making fun of you because you're pretending to be all deep and analytical but you're literally just taking direct quotes that we all know.

>>159810163
>that we all know.
No, "we" don't, as proven by the countless threads made over the years with subjects consisting of "Why was Shinji such a bitch?", etc.

>>159810158
Gendo's selflessness and Yui's penis.

>>159810559
He can be a bitch and all of those quotes can still be true.
I don't see a single one that says "Shinji is not a dumb little bitch".

>>159808690
Thats a good guess of it, except the last line.
The how disgusting is referring to the jerk of scene.
i am shipper of those 2 and cant say it is a romantic scene in any way

>>159800141
You didn't even watch Monogatari S2. I don't even think you read any of the threads.

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>>159809580
I like her as a character . She is amusing and interesting. Perhaps the most of the show.
But she is a fucking cunt and honestly doesnt deserve anyone better than the other little mass murder.
They are perfect for each other.

>>159810605
>Asuka's instrumentality
>"Wait, what the fuck?! I don't remember this!"
>"What's he doing... he's not.. .wait, he can't be... what?! HE IS!!?"
>Rei standing there like "lol bitch"
>Leaves instrumentality to go crush Shinji's balls

>>159810749
>implying a slutty smell fetishist isn't perfect for her

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>>159809732
On the other hand, he was exactly as Yui hoped for.

>>159811318
Yui don't give a shit since she now floating through space with Gendo as some kind of demi-god.

>>159797965
No, it's "congratulations you managed to overcome the inherent struggle that comes with being an individual confronted with other individuals"

>>159810754
>Leaves instrumentality to beat up shinji
>Gets choked till near death
Sasuga Asuka, your achievements will never cease to amaze me

>>159810825
I have a small guess that you just so happen to be said smell fetishist.

>>159811318
I dont think shinjis actions in instrumentality were necessary for yui to achieve her objective of getting catapulted into space.
As long as lilith awakened, she would probably have to power necessary to be launched, no matter if shinji killed everyone, saved everyone or whatever.
I think people give yui, seele and gendo way too much credit. I think they were making the plan up (at least some parts) along the way.

>>159812270
Gendo was the one with the most concrete plan it seemed
>can't get waifu outside of robot
>"guess I'll just become god, fuck it"

>>159797965
how the fuck did you get that...

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>>159812270
She had that power since 19.

Why did the Evas spout orgasmic sounds upon committing suicide?

>>159812667
She hadn't eaten her husband yet.

>>159812903
Because Anno wouldn't miss the chance to make things sexual while the eva series were PENETRATING themselves with that massive LANCE.
A good question is why they even suicided.

>>159813036
>SEELE mad mass production units
>SEELE against NERV
>From SEELE's POV Gendo has succeeded
>SEELE is happy and their robots help

>>159812954
I always had doubt about gendos fate.
When 01 eat him during instrumentality he didn't get tanged afterwards.
Did she end up forgive him and his souls get absorbed into 01 so they are together forever?
Did she kill him in a specific way and denied him instrumentality and the chance to come back?
Did he got treated as everyone else and still on Earth?

>>159813284
>Did she kill him in a specific way and denied him instrumentality and the chance to come back?
People who say this always enrage me. There's nothing in the show that implies there's some kind of soul destruction mechanism, and the very idea goes against the entire point of Instrumentality.
Also it seemed like what Gendo did was exactly what Yui planned, so why would she be angry? The EVA absorbs things by eating them (n2 engine) ergo Gendo was absorbed into the EVA.

It was pretty much fanservice for Gendo-haters too.

>>159813565
>so why would she be angry
Because he fucked at least 2 other woman on the side, destroying their families and was a pretty bad father.
Yui probably could achieve her objectives without him being a jerkass.

>>159810714
I did. And I know that Nadeko wasn't depressed, she was just stupid as fuck.

>>159813667
>implying Yui was the jealous type
And there are millions of worse people that got tanged. Yui never told Gendo shit, so it's partly her part that he hardened.

>>159813936
*fault

>>159810754
Asuka instrumentality is literally being dicked 24/7 by Toji but refusing it cause there is no Shinji.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBs3VsNfdY

>>159800197
Accepting that you can be a piece of shit crybaby and still have self-worth maybe.

what did everyone think about the ending of the manga?

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I like the rebuilds

>>159814191
>not understanding the movie this hard

We never see any other character's instrumentality. Shinji's is self-contained and Rei clones are taking the forms of other souls to guide him through it.

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>>159813565
>There's nothing in the show that implies there's some kind of soul destruction mechanism
There is in that they normally just die. 2I killed a billion people without a ring of disembodied souls forming around the Earth then. Half the world was dead and Guf was still empty by the time Rei was created, they didn't return to the Black Moon. Sachiel had a soul, every Angel had a soul equivalent to an undivided Lilim, they don't have an implied existence after the bodies are destroyed.

>>159800197
Understanding that personnal relationships stink most of the time, that you won't be the Next Jesus beloved by everyone, that being a human means being made mostly of shit instead of gold.
But that even with all those cons, being alive is the best you can have. So now stop wasting your life fapping to waifus.

>>159814383
They're okay but the CG objectively made them worse except for the geometry angel.
The entire scene with unit 1 losing it's arm and regrowing another, fleshy human-like arm was fucking god tier in the original anime and in the rebuilds it just looked like some magic bullshit.

>>159814294
>wah wah happy ending me want arty melaaancholy wah
It's better.
Faggots be hating on it because it fucked their ships. Sadimoto was able to connect the lore and form a cohesive conclusion that makes sense, is logical, and completes the narrative.

>>159814494
Dead SEELE people were turned into LCL despite being dead. Rei is crossing time and space nigga.

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The message is that (((they))) did it.

>>159814474
>Saying this kind of bullshit when we know asuka and shinji talked during instrumentality about the jerking off thing.

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>>159814623
(((They))) indeed

>>159814846
Shinji talked to Rei clones dumbass. You didn't find it weird how characters kept turning into Rei every 5 seconds? Instrumentality is an individual experience for every person. That's what Shinji decided when he opted out of the singularity option.

>>159814848
>>159814623
really turns on my s^2 engines

>>159815044
MAGI confirmed through dubs, SEELE did 2nd Impact. Asteroids cannot melt polar ice.

Remember when 4.0 was supposed to come out in 2015?

>>159815493
I think Anno's annual excuse is next month.

I really, really love Eva, but its been slowly depressing me.
>How people will never fucking stop discussing, usually in aggressive ways.
>How the rebuilds seen to be taking a really bad way, and even anno dont want to finish it (an author with enthusiasm to finish his work doesnt delay it for 5 years)
>The looming thread of anno just going "fuck it" with the time loops theories and making everything ultimately meaningless.

This shit has grown more than it should. I usually am against fanservice and slice of life, but fuck it, i would rather have Shinji Ikari Raising Project animated rather than everything else eva related from the last 10 years. Just give them rest.

>>159797965
Naw, eva message is about hedgehogs.

>>159797965
No it's called take care of your children so you don't raise fucking autists.

>>159802552
An anime can have a message that runs opposite of its story.

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Geometry.

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I know.
I know i let you down.

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>>159821234
>tfw you're in the bottom

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>>159814520
>stop wasting your life fapping to waifus
>series has some of the most legendary waifus of all time
What did Anno mean by this?

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>>159823056
>you have dozens of folders of pictures like this for when you need to defend your batshit theories

>>159823056
Not sure what you want to prove with that image, but mari is quite a mistery. I hope she actually has some point in the story, instead of being just a pair of tits.

Best case scenario she has the same problem rei had in NGE: the truth about her is too spoiler heavy and it will only be told on 4.0
Worst case scenario she really is just a pair of huge tits.

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>>159823331
I have some batshit theories too, but what in hell is your image supposed to imply?

>>159823350
She's just a 45 year-old woman who got pickled by LCL.
>Not sure what you want to prove with that image
Me neither. I don't know why or when I made it. That's what indicates that I'm too far down the nge rabbit hole.

>>159823407
>right:Shinji's sexual interests overlap to form an image of his mom
>left:Asuka cut her wrists, the bandages are too close to the hand to be IV placement

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>>159823407
>blue-eyed yui

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>I don't know why or when I made it. That's what indicates that I'm too far down the nge rabbit hole
This is amazing.
Have a best girl for your efforts.

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>>159821234
>kawaru achieved CHIM
every time

>tfw my internet peaks late at night at around 2-3mbps and is less than that during the day
>it is taking literal days to download the bluray pack

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It's some kuballist, satanic, anti-human bullshit. The message was that, "huemans r bad u shuld fel bad." I'm not some bubbly person in real life, but it's stupid to just try to bring yourself down.

God wouldn't want this garbage message to be spread. Just look at the narrative that they're spreading.

EvanGAYlien: powerful people are trying to make the world a collective consciousness
Code GAYsass: powerful people are trying to make the world a collective consciousness
GAYuilty Crown: powerful people are trying to make the world a collective consciousness

I'm sure there's a lot of other anime out there that are like this, but it's being pushed by satanicly minded fags and you shouldn't watch it for any entertainment value.

>>159826188
But they always fail at making a singularity. They're the bad guys.

>>159797965
4.0 WHEN?

>>159826270
Oh, and I forgot to mention the false-counter to these powerful people making a collective consciousness. The world government swoops in to stop or change this fate of collective consciousness which is stupid because a world government is how the powerful people who wanted to make a collective consciousness even got the power to attempt such a feat.

I'm not sure how to put this into layman's words but it's just simply Hegelian Dialectic.

Thesis: Collectivism on national level = (ok)
Anti-thesis:Collectivism on the spiritual/metaphysical level = (ok) and must be forced or we're all doomed to just going to war again
Synthesis: Collectivism on the World level = (ok)

This is just one of the millions of pieces of media that were made by the elites to push this satanic garbage.

God wanted nations which is why he broke Babylon.

>>159826438
>The world government swoops in to stop or change this fate of collective consciousness which is stupid because a world government is how the powerful people who wanted to make a collective consciousness even got the power to attempt such a feat.

SEELE wanted a singularity, Gendo wanted to be God, Yui wanted Shinji to decide.

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>>159826622
That's the ambigious part where they try to confuse you. Red herrings are always in there. I just thought of another anime that's like the other's I listed: Lain.

Lain is filled with red herrings.

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The point is that the alpha always is shot by secret agents.

>>159814191
We never see why she left it, it never states it's because of Shinji

>>159830164
I've always been partial to the theory that it was because she was an EVA pilot in the first place
>Shinji took an entire month to materialize after being trapped in the entry plug
>being turned to LCL is the same as your AT field collapsing
>EVA pilots trained to manipulate their AT fields
>Asuka leaves the LCL a good amount of time after Shinji
Possibly comparable to the amount of time it took Shinji to reconstruct himself the first time, perhaps?

>>159831020
It's been confirmed Asuka leaves a good amount of time after Shinji has been alone there, so that would make sense

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>>159831053
It's the interpretation with the most detail to support it. Ain't a thing been confirmed.