I don't know much about animes but isn't $200 for 27

Japan doesn't understand marketing. Now you know why their economy is so shit.

>>159740059

For a japanese release that's actually a huge deal

>animes

>>159740456
That's the US release, so the Japanese version is probably even more expensive.

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>>159740059
Yes. For $200 the set ought to come with a whole lot of special extras at least, some kind of limited edition merch or something. If it's literally just the discs, it's very overpriced.

>>159740059
>animes
When will you ahos learn?

Thanks everyone. I think I'll order this as a gift.

>>159740059
Original was like $600

Wasn't the Japanese set like $600? If so that's a much better deal, even if it's still overpriced.

>>159740059
The Japanese release a few years ago was like $800

The anime market is its own beast. Basically, you buy the bds to support the studio/anime, and not because you want to watch it. It cost so much because it's essentially a collectors' item. Normal fans buy the manga, or other merchandise.
It's not like in the west.

>>159740548

Back in my early days of anime I paid like 200 bucks for the Trigun box set

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>>159740059
>animes
>Gurren Lagann
Hello newfriend

>>159740059
>animes
>doesn't know pricing
>Imaishishit
Like fucking pottery.

What is your most expensive anime/manga-related purchase?

>$200 for just the discs
Then again I've never been one for extras inside the box set.

>>159742184
An Idolmaster ps3 controller, 40 bucks or so.

>>159740059
That's dirt fucking cheap.

>>159742184
A $1500 plane ticket to see Symphogear Live, then maybe the $300 I spent on each ticket.

>>159741652
>>159741653
>>159741672
I remember it being $300. Or maybe it was $500.

>>159740059
That's what happens when 99% of people pirate. They need to increase the price so that the 1% pays 100% of what they WOULD have made if everyone paid for it.

>>159742971
That's not how it works.

>>159743008
Yes it is.

>>159743008
It's simply supply and demand, the more you increase a price the fewer people will buy it, but since only the most loyal of fans are going to buy it anyway because of piracy, they may as well just jack up the prices so they at least make some semblance of a profit from the show. If they charged $50 for a full series then every studio would go bankrupt after their first show.

>>159743027
>>159743096
No. That's a bd set released after the show ended, if I couldn't pirate it I would have already seen it on tv. People who buy those things want something physical, which you can't get through piracy, so the price is not affected by that. In fact, piracy let people have more money to buy physical things, which means it probably has a positive effect on bd sets and so on.

BDs are also not the primary way to make money for a studio, and the niche that buys is so small because you buy something you have already seen, not because of piracy, and because it's a niche market.

Where the fuck do you people come from to not how this shit works?

>>159743027
>>159743096
Isn't the price high because of how much they pay VAs and shit?

>>159743289
Japanese VAs are cheap when compared to western ones, and in general an anime doesn't cost much to make.

>>159743289
No. I have no idea why you would think something so stupid. VAs get paid shit.

>>159743164
>Charge $20 for a BD
>Everyone pirates but 50'000 people
>Make $1'000'000 minus costs
>$700'000 in debt after one show

>Charge $200 for a BD
>Everyone pirates but 20'000 people
>Make $4'000'000 minus costs
>Profit of about 2.3 million

?????? hurr durr i guess i dont understand how it works lol

>>159743164
>BDs are also not the primary way to make money for a studio
Gee I wonder why the fuck that's the case? Maybe because people pirate it? Retard.

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>>159743401
You didn't read my post, and simply repeat what you said before.

Read my post, I already wrote why it doesn't work like you think it does, you vermin.

>>159743446
No, it's because they cost so much because it's a niche market and people don't want to buy something they have already seen unless they loved it. They prefer to buy manga/ln if it's an adaption, or merchandise.

How do you people not understand that when a bd set is out people have already seen it ANYWAY, they don't need to pirate to see gurren lagann on tv.

>>159743453
You're a fucking moron, they have to increase the prices to offset the fact hardly anyone buys it. You can try to manipulate the facts so you don't have to feel bad about pirating as much as you want, it doesn't change the truth. Nobody except otaku actually buy figurines, and those are also ridiculously priced in order to offset the lose of piracy.

>>159743498
Fuck off autismo, you're wrong.

>>159743504
Nobody but otakus buys anime stuff. Hardly anyone buys it, but it's not because of piracy.

>>159743498
How often do you think anime re-runs on TV? You know nothing about Japanese culture, the fact Himouto is getting a re-run in itself is hype because of how rare it is. If anyone wants to rewatch a series they have to pirate it or buy it.

>>159743533
It is because of piracy.

>>159740059
Nope that's less than 10$ an episode. So it's pretty good.

>>159743548
Or record it? the simplest thing to do.
There is also no guarantee that every pirated item is a lost sale, look at us on /a/.

>>159743581
>Or record it?
So piracy.

>>159740059

Been wanting a poster for that cover image ever since I saw years ago.

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>>159743446
Or because physical media is becoming increasingly less popular as legal digital distribution has become significantly more convenient and cost-efficient.

>>159740059

it's that expensive because the demand curve is inelastic (given that hardcore fans will buy it anyway, while pirates won't give a shit to begin with), meaning that lowering the price won't increase the amount sold enough to make it worth lowering the price

>>159743548
People rent here, and now stream (legally and illegally). You're an idiot.

>>159743761
>People rent (and totally don't rip it) and stream (it's totally legal under fair use*)

No anon, you are the idiot. But God bless you for being so ignorant and pure to the fact people rip what they rent.

>>159743027
>>159743096
>>159743164
>>159743401

You don't understand how Japanese TV, especially anime, works. Because it works differently from western TV.

In the West, a Production Company will make a Pilot(a single episode, or double episode for half hour shows) and shop that idea around to Networks. When a Network likes the pilot, they pay the Production Company for the exclusive broadcast rights. This payment is what the Production Company uses to make the show (rent equipment, secure sets, pay actors, grips, writers, other staff, etc). The Production Company gets the money up front to make the show, and the Network recoups thier loss by selling advertisement time during the show's timeslot.

Keep in mind this is gross oversimplification of the process, and leaves out direct sponsorships in program, syndication deals, and the role of various producers, executive producers and other nefarious meddlers.

Anime, especially late night anime, works off a Brokered Programming model. Basically the Production Company pays out of pocket to make the series, and then buys airtime directly from the Network. The Production Company secures Advertising Partners (which is why every show used to open with the Guran no Sponsaa no Teikyoude Okurishimasu bit, these are companies that paid money to Sponsor the show) and they get allocated commercial airtime during the episodes by the Production Company.

This means that the Production Company has to recoup their losses not covered by sponsorship deals with merchandizing, especially DVD/BluRay sales, these items are the intended final product. It has nothing to do with piracy, as even in Pre-internet days for a TV show you'd pay the equivalent of $50USD for a VHS tape with two 20min episodes on it.

>>159743806
When did I say or even imply that they don't always do that? Why are you pretending to be a Japanese expert when you're talking out of your ass? Are you one of those SEA monkeys who reads a bunch of shit online and thinks they're a Japan pro?

>>159743937
>>This means that the Production Company has to recoup their losses not covered by sponsorship deals with merchandizing, especially DVD/BluRay sales, these items are the intended final product.
No, most anime are commercials for a manga, ln, or something else, and those are the intended final product. Original anime are a small % of the total and can get their money back in multiple ways, of which the bds is only one.

>>159742184
A $50 Murata artbook

10-15 years ago it cost a lot more than $200 to buy any boxset. I remember spending over $300 on the Escaflowne TV boxset, not to mention all the VHS tapes I bought that were $30 each for two episodes, maybe three on the first volume.

>>159743991
True, but the underlying point is the same: Anime media has always been expensive. It's cost is not new, nor a reaction to piracy or other outside stimulus, it's a fact of the anime production model.

>>159744250
You quoted me and I was saying that piracy has no effect, so I thought you disagreed when I said that it wasn't the primary way to make money.
I saw I made a mistake, I wrote "make money for a studio" and not simply "make money", because blah blah the studio is paid in advance.

>>159740059
Pretty cheap considering what BD usually go for in japan.