Could someone please care to remind me why she's phrased as "The evil" in english?
It would not be localized if they had not done that because we're never supposed to sympathize with the german side of history.
Only problem here is your shit taste
>Tanya is a MtF transsexual Japanese salaryman who self-identifies as German
Why don't SJW like this show more?
There's so much wrong with your post i dont even know where to begin
Because he relies on societal structure to define right and wrong, rather than an intrinsic moral compass.
If he deemed it beneficial for his career to recommend the deployment weapons of mass destruction against the major population centers of the world, he would recommend it.
To him, the only value a human life has is the tangible value he can attach to it.
Any human that doesn't meet his standards has no actual value to him as he cannot use them and thus he is perfectly ok with discarding them.
He acts out of self interest in all things, there is no shred of altruism in him and all his motives are ulterior.
This is why he's seen as evil.
Sauce? I just took pic related from the sub I've been watching.
It's a translation you fuck tards and a rough one at that.
The fucking post that guy >>159725104 was quoting gave the original title and that what the whole discussion has been about. Granted, most sources ommit the subtitle of "Saga of Tanya the Evil", but if it's important enough to put it in the anime it might as well be official.
"sen" is war, "ki" is something like "story", like in "diary" - "nikki".
>but if it's important enough to put it in the anime it might as well be official.
It's because the original Japanese focus on the little girl being a little girl, and the English title try to walk away from that. Entirely a marketing decision.
That's great, but that's not what's being discussed. People are insisting it's the work of translators re-titling the show and not from the japanese themselves. It's not the first time a series has had a less than fitting subtitle with no one on the english side being involved.
>People are insisting it's the work of translators re-titling the show and not from the japanese themselves
No, what is being claimed is that the english subtitle is made after decisions discussed with marketing.
If the German Empire won WWI:
>Monarchies would still stand in Continental Europe = good thing
Which would mean:
>No Weimar Republic degeneracy
Which is a good thing and would also mean:
>No Nazi Germany
Which is a good thing and would also mean:
Which is obviously a good thing and would also mean:
>No Cultural Marxism
Which is a good thing
Also, maybe this would help stabilize the Ottoman Empire, which would mean:
>A stable middle East
It should be called "Tanya, the Good". Tanya wins WWI means no Nazi Germany and no Cold War.
According to SJWs, it's fine if you chop your dick off and suck on African American/Middle Eastern men's cocks, but it's not fine if you actually want to BE a cute Aryan loli, because that gives you more privilege and makes you cuter than them, especially so if you join a fantasy version of the Reichswehr (which, as you know, are LITERALLY NAZIS, according to antifa SJWs).
>The modern looking tanks near the end of the anime put me off.
Given how fast warfare accelerates technological development (the last war prior to WW1 still featured heavy cavalry charges, without WW2 we wouldn't have modern rocket technology or the internet) is it really beyond belief that WW1 lasting at least twice as long would further tank development? The tank was invented somewhere around 1917 with the Renault FT-1 being the most advanced model. Do you seriously think that seven more years of warfare would pass without modifications being made to it?
Tanks probably developed more in the six years of WWII than in the 20 years of peace before it, didn't they? You got to have that arms race going so your engineers don't get too bored.
Talking in terms of aesthetics, the tanks in the anime just doesn't look like they should be there.
I would feel weird if the smg Tanya got look like a Mac 10 or P90 too. It's like that with the tanks.
>Talking in terms of aesthetics, the tanks in the anime just doesn't look like they should be there.
Probably because they're crashing through lines of Frenchmen wearing bright red pants, a uniform they abandoned in the first year of the war. I don't blame the animators for this though, that uniform is a lot more iconic of France compared to the unnoteworthy horizon blue trenchcoats. It really gets the "this is supposed to be France but we're not going to call it France" vibe across.
But i mean like, it seems like the only reason the manhattan project was started anyways was because a straight up invasion of japan would be too risky and/or expensive, for lack of a better term
Because not everyone is magical and tanya is the only one that powerful
It can't take place in the Interwar period, if there were no WW1 to begin with.
The Germans began their nuclear program in 1939. The US only started it in 1942. They've done a pretty good job getting it done before the war ended.
>So basically you're telling me that germany lost ww2 because of a disdain for jews
And shitty management of their airforce during the Battle of Britain
And growing overconfident after fluking on France
And their inability to secure the Suez Canal
And allying with Italy
And allying with Japan even though they didn't invade Vladivostok while Germany was invading Russia (you had ONE fucking job!)
And declaring war on America after Pearl Harbor
And underestimating America because it's a "mongrel nation"
And the fact that nobody except HItler knew what exactly was going on in the country because he was growing increasinly paranoid, so none of the guys who actually had a military education could make informed decisions
A lot of mistakes, really. The best chance Nazi Germany had at winning the war was Hitler getting a heart attack in 1936 and being succeeded by someone with better organizational skills (maybe some military veteran who actually had officer training from his inner circle? Wasn't Göring some high ranking guy in the airforce?).
Even with just russia out of the way though, alot more resources could have been dedicated to the western front, wich maybe could have changed the outcome?
Like, a bomb on st. petersburg and moscow would probably have done wonders.
>Like, a bomb on st. petersburg and moscow would probably have done wonders.
I really have to resist the urge to go full armchair general, as it would probably derail the entire thread.
>Wasn't Göring some high ranking guy in the airforce?
He was utterly incompetent. The only reason he was at the head of the Luftwaffe was because of politic.
>And declaring war on America after Pearl Harbor
He didn't really had any choice in the matter. The US was already picking the Allied side, by lending money and materials, escorting British convoy, etc... He could have not declared war, but I'm pretty sure that the US would.
>And allying with Japan
The complete lack of any strategic vision in China and the Pacific, the dissension between the different Japanese Imperial armed branches, you have to wonder who would ever want Japan as an ally. The only thing the Japanese were sure of, was that they didn't want to fight the Soviet, at this point what was the point of the Germano-Japanese alliance?
The Nips did some completely retarded shit in China, like starting wars for a missing soldier that stayed at the brothel, without Tokyo ever being aware of anything happening until it was over, or the officer interpreting order such as "okay guys, you have gone far enough, you can stop now so we can reorganise", as "go ahead behave like a complete retard".
>Germany invades Poland, occupies it
>accept Hitler's peace proposal, giving Germany Dunkirk and the Eastprussia corridor
>German occupation is lifted
>Invasion of Poland remains a limited territorial war unless Stalin decides he wants to have a go
>recognize that Churchill has precisely zero interest in peace with Germany
>wipe out the forces at Dunkirk
>subordinate the Italian army to German officers so that they don't go running around starting fires that they can't put out because they're complete shitters
>Don't invade Britain; besiege them and turn back American supplies while trying not to aggro America
>Have Japan consolidate its hold on Manchuria, flank the Russians instead of aggroing America
>defeat Stalin, wait until Britain decides to peace out
>with no leverage in Europe, America's willingness to intervene should dwindle
It's all in the formulation
>We will always guide him, never abandon him, forever bounded to walk an unyielding path, onto the battlefield. All for the sake of victory. The mages we seek will head to the arduous battlefield, draw a pittance of a wage, live a gloomy life pelted by hails of bullets, shouldering unbearable risk with no guarantee of survival. Upon your return, fame and glory awaits.
>Will be deployed to the frontlines often, and would be the last one to leave in a retreat; even if it was an unreasonable order, they would need to break open the frontlines. Not permitted to surrender nor retreat, the warning that they would always be on the battlefield; The ending lines even confessed that the battlefield was a harsh place, and the remuneration would be poor. Logically speaking, she fulfilled her obligation to explain. Aside from this, she specifically highlighted the horrible scenes of the rain of bullets, the need to be ever vigilant, and that you would die from just one careless mistake. Even if you survive, you will receive medals, but no special rewards.
>No matter how you look at it, this was a recruitment brief on the level of ‘one way ticket to hell and travel guide, thank you for reading’. Rationally speaking, no one would want to apply after reading this messed up recruitment brief. Tanya believed this strongly.
I just marathoned this show and got to say I'm happy i did. I had dropped some very similar show about a witch in WW1. I was super hesitant about d/l this show then I saw a this little fucker popping up all the time. I assumed it was better than average if people keep talking about it.
I absolutely love this show for the fact the "kawai" magic girl fighting in the first world war was actually a sadistic cunt. The fact that the magic is not overdone is refreshing. There is no "my emotions will protect everybody" bullshit. It reminds me heavily of old school magic shows like witch hunter robin. You have magic, but you are severely limited and must use technology as well.
solid 9/10 for the fact it made me laugh way more than most "comedies" now a days.
>that witch anime was so forgettable I can't even remember it's name.
yeah that one I was able to look it up thanks to you
95% liked this TV show
aka trash opinions on a super generic story line. They went the first world war angle to try to peak the interest of the mob. It just turned into generic witch adventure in world war 1
After reading enough of the garbage, it usually happens after the author loses the direction directionof the series.
Who needs interpersonal relationships when you have cheat abilities
How could something this cute be evil?
>solid 9/10 for the fact it made me laugh way more than most "comedies" now a days.
I nearly dropped it after finding out it was isekai as I didn't read the synopsis, but it turns out this is probably the only series where not being isekai would have made it suffer horribly. I can't imagine it being anywhere near as funny if it was just an edgy creepy loli.
>The west didn't want us to root for her
>We cheered when she cheered, cried when she cried, and hate being X just as much as her now
So now we know that both Carlo and CR can't do shit correctly.
>A lot of mistakes, really. The best chance Nazi Germany had at winning the war was Hitler getting a heart attack in 1936 and being succeeded by someone with better organizational skills
Or just not being so damn greedy and know to quit when they are ahead. Over-extension is basically what happened, they could have just asked for a peace treaty instead of insisting on taking out the UK. Give some symbolic land back in exchange of keeping everything else.
>I remember when one of our co-workers found out it was getting an anime adaption and the studio wanted suggestions on what to name the show because I guess the manga title is literally like
>a little more in that it's that one phrase that is neo-nazi
>and literally called her a loli
>so they were like "what do we call this" and we're like "you cannot directly translate this"
Reminds me of how the french were so offended by Fist of the North star the voice actors demanded that it be adapted into a goofy-ass semi-parody version of itself via localization.
A pity they didn't use the title of the first novel
That would have been a meme snowball.
The LN and Manga are selling nicely too, S2 is in realm of possibilities.
Little black dress Tanya is better.
>goes way beyond the call of duty
>uses foreknowledge and future battle tactics to slaughter the enemy
yeah she is a fucking little devil.
Capturing or wiping out the Brits forces at dunkirk would have pretty much ended the war. It was most of the standing army.
The Brits would be stuck on their island really unable to defend anything else.
Hitler needed to take out Stalin too.
Not treating the Poles/French as slaves, at least at first, would have been a good step toward preventing the US from interfering if the Nazis invaded Russia. Had Dunkirk been destroyed Britain couldn't do shit.
And, just for good measure, blockade Britain from her colonies and starve her to death.
Nothing wrong with looking out for number 1.
Being a psycopath isn't her fault, it's just how she was born, and everything she does in the past life and in this one is follow the system to secure a comfy life for herself. It's not like she's killing people to wear the skin of his victims, she's doing his best at the job she has.
!Germany is in a better position than either Imperial Germany or Nazi Germany ever were.
1. More territory
2. Bigger, better trained, more technologically advanced military
3. Seeckt and Ludendorff are in charge, not Hitler, and they have Nazi Germany's resources
4. Reincarnator with knowledge of the future leading their special forces unit
Losing with all these advantages would take a level of incompetence beyond even what happened historically
The "broken border" is intangible - it's the laws that govern the EU's fluid transport of labor. Obviously, the poor refugees want to go to the rich countries, as do the terrorists who want to kill the rich inhabitants.
I bet you Greece doesn't have a goddamn Muslim problem
Even if they ignore her advice, the German HC is so much more competent than Nazi Germany there would need to be a monumental fuckup to lead to Germany being occupied.
The Norden Command didn't listen to Tanya either, but they have an even better (though riskier) plan up their sleeve. Rudersdorf and Zettour studied Tanya's theories and that lead to the blitzkrieg that finally overcame the French line.
In this sense, Rudersdorf and Zettour learned and adapted when their real-life counterparts could not.
Honestly this show was way more hype than I expected. Even the weird anime designs ended up being great in their own way.
Did Tanya ever consider the history of her old world concerning her decisions?
Seems like she's working on her personal skills, experience and discipline as Japanese office worker plus her own personal assessment of the not Germany world.
On the whole she's not concerned about the new world other than what may affect her having a comfortable life and not getting killed.
Though now the being x vendetta has become a priority.
She didn't have magical and military know how when she started in the new world, but she still has her old memories even as a child.
Based on her aptitude she could have been more than the ideas guy, her written military work was noticed by the right people too.
The Americans already HAVE nukes in Youjo Senki, but they're magic bombs rather than nuclear, and they're extremely difficult to deliver.
Tanya knows nukes are coming but she didn't know they were already in existence by the time she got commissioned.
World changing ideas are not nothing, she's a child soldier involved in a conflict that she knows would soon be a world war, would be logical for her to tell them about a devastating weapon that ended a world war. She was also a Japanese in her past life. Should remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Should remember USA made the bombs.
No, Mary Sue is unrelated. She's a Norweigian-born, American refugee who volunteers for the British Army.
The US isn't at war with anyone right now, they're too busy Jewing up their bank accounts by selling to Europe. In the WN, the US joins toward the end after Germany is already losing the war (Tanya is 14 and hits BG) and they drop the bomb
Youjo Senki (War Dairy of Little Girl) is the original japanese title of the novel and manga
Youjo Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil (War Dairy of Little Girl: Saga of Tanya the Evil) is the title of the anime
The english localization went with Saga of Tanya the evil for all incarnations of the series because its a title already approved by japanese license holders of the project
Your dream got ruined because of austrian autism anon
>act so autistic with italy that they give you the middle finger and change side
>lolno you have to join the offensive war and we won't give land to you like the pact promise
>deploy the army on the border
>w-why they are with the allies now
>opening a third front
>most of the battle are inconclusive and the front is a drain of lives without gain
>germany join againist italy in 1917
>during the 12th battle of the isonzo
>first decisive battle of the war
>germany think that italy is done for and austrian can finish them
>after the defeat the italian army is a whole new army because cadorna got kicked
>try to attack in the same way the italian attacked for 2 years
>againist a fucking river with entrenched and pissed off italian
>get ass kicked in the battle of the piave
>austria what are you doing
>austria stop pls
>italy launch a massive offensive to retake the lost land
>massive victory:the austrian army is destroyed
>the italian army is advancing unopposed in austrian land
>the austrian ask for armistice
>we accept it instead of debellating them
If these 2 milion soldier weren't used to fight italy you could have won lmao
Good thing Germany lost desu.
Also you're deluded if you think a second war would never have happened without Germany starting it. Sure, the time and place might have been different, but it's not like Germany was the only axis power, and the only nation looking to expand.
The other major Axis Powers were Japan (committing political sudoku) and Italy (so incompetent the French damn near counter-invaded them despite getting their shit wrecked by the Germans up North).
He lived for ten years as a German girl.
>le Spooky scary Russians meme
The reason she's evil is because she denied God and his love. She refused to acknowledge his sons sacrifice to free man from sin. That and she will do whatever it takes to have an easy long life, even if it means massacres and such
"Youjo" does not just mean "little girl". More like "depraved and inappropriately adult little girl".
The author put it in the title as a joke, and was actually disturbed that they allowed it.
you can't discount the fact hat for more than half of his (her) life existing she(he) was a dude, of whom was a salary man
her (his) antics itself ('hur durr im a salaryman') point to the fact that she(he) is still embracing the fact that he(she) is a man(woman)
it's set in 1923 pic related is a British interwar tank of 1925
>"Hey Tanya look at this"
She is a 100% girl now, this is how easy it was.
I typically despise english covers of anime but this one is actually quite good and the lyrics flesh out her character a wee bit.
>literally a biological little girl
He was a man in his previous live, she isn't any longer
Didn't they mention in the LN/Manga that Tanya is experiencing puberty late because she was malnourished growing up, and because her sleep patterns is affecting her growth?
I remember that because I remember that she was jealous of her assistant's rather large "endowments" and saw a doctor to see why she isn't growing.
WHERE ARE YOU WHEN TANYA IS LIBERATING THE GOOKS?
It's funny because it's actually kind of true.
The best part is the autist in the top comment not realizing it's (mostly) banter.
>killing over 50 million people aswell as 6 million jews
When did you realize that De Lugo was the hero of the story?
>Consider the statistics provided by German researchers. They found that in 1860, the average age of the onset of puberty in girls was 16.6 years. In 1920, it was 14.6; in 1950, 13.1; 1980, 12.5; and in 2010, it had dropped to 10.5. Similar sets of figures have been reported for boys, albeit with a delay of around a year.
Solution: segregated water supplies for men and women. Pic sorta related.
Neger bitte, how about no
Honestly dont know why i should trust some online newspaper with absolutely 0 claims to back their 'facts' up
Sure, whatever you say buddy
I follow jewish traditions and all that, have technically gone through the process of converting to the jewish faith through a rabbi, but just simply doubt the existence of an all-powerfull creator figure.
She probably joined the army purely so she could eat free potatobread.
If you constantly demand that each citation has citations itself, you're going to reach a point of infinite regress. Unless you're going to go around and personally measure the ages of puberty of German children, you're going to have to trust someone somewhere down the line.
The Guardian has a reputation as a legitimate and factual news source since the days when it was called the Manchester Guardian. If you want other people to start disbeliving that, you either need specific proof *this* article is wrong, or broad-spectrum evidence that the paper is disreputable.
The age of consent is fine because physical growth =/= mental growth. There are girls in fifth grade who are menstruating and have much more defined breasts than their peers, but that doesn't mean they're ready for you to fuck them.
>physical growth =/= mental growth
Such a stupid fucking argument. Teens fuck each other all the time and yet retards like you try to pretend like they can't "handle" having sex.
I'm not worried about pedophiles, I'm worried about women. If they reach sexual maturity at the age of 10 then it means that with the age of consent being 18 they're theoretically supposed to abstain from having sex for eight years of their life before they're allowed to have it. In those circumstances they're obviously not going to do that so it either becomes a dead law or it just creates problems for the boys they sleep with.
No, they're just not supposed to have sex with people over the age of consent.
Read that again. Sexual experimentation is expected at those ages with their peers. Age of consent doesn't mean "you can't have sex ever until you're x age". If it were, that would mean they technically raped each other, and literally no one considers it that way.
>and literally no one considers it that way.
Some interpretations of the laws do, that's why a kid can get charged for child porn if he uploads weenie pictures when he's underaged.
That's a little different, because in that case he's actually uploading pornographic material of a minor even if it is himself. I don't agree with prosecuting that, but it's not really in the same realm as expecting teens to diddle each other.
>teens can't handle sex
>nobody thinks teens shouldn't be having sex
You contradict yourself in two comments, just like all age of consent faggots do. "Hur dur they can't handle sex but there's nothing wrong with then having sex!"
>Evil is relative
How did I contradict myself? Nowhere did I say they couldn't handle sex with each other. Age of consent laws are about who they're having sex with, to keep it within their peer group.
There's zero evidence to support your claim that teens can't handle sex with someone older than an arbitrary age. Not one fucking shred. You're basing this off of nothing and pretending it's fact, all while defending teens fucking each other as if there is any difference.
Do you seriously think a 15 year old having sex with her 16 year old boyfriend is the same as her fucking a 40 year old man? Or that because little kids like to play the doctor game and explore each other sexually it's perfectly okay to put your dick in a 10 year old? It's not that they can't "handle" it, it's that they're not on the same playing field of mental and emotional growth.
>being this stupid
Murdering someone who raped your daughter isn't wrong, no. Raping someone when humanity is about to go extinct isn't wrong. Context changes the morality of things. Only a child or an actual retard would claim otherwise.
is the manga worth reading? i liked the anime and tried reading the first chapter or so of the manga but it felt so jarring with all the weird animals and doll things
>It's not that they can't "handle" it, it's that they're not on the same playing field of mental and emotional growth.
So if a slutty 15 year old has sex with a 40 year old virgin, she commited rape?
>still no evidence
If your unsupported claims of age differences damaging young people had ANY validity, then places like Finland and France would have a huge amount of their population traumatized and fucked up. But they don't, because what you're claiming doesn't happen. Feel free to find some evidence instead of aping the same bullshit though. You're making the positive claim, so it's on you to support your claim since you have theburden of proof. You're the one trying to claim that normal human attraction and sexuality is damaging, after all.
Yeah I think it is. Tanya is more generically cute and I think they fuck up the magic by making Tanya able to use it freely without her gear or gun, but it expands on the back story and Tanya's thoughts a lot more so I think it's a nice supplement. A lot of the action scenes are badly done though
Never denied that, but going along as you wish and burning down a church would still be considered arson and most likely kand you a jail sentence, even if your inner morals differ on that thought,
Finland and France let 15 year olds fuck whoever they want. Since that'd the case, she me evidence that a 15 year old fucking a 40 year old is bad for them in any way. Support your claim you brainlet.
Morals are relative. Where was it said that laws didn't matter because of my morals?
Laws and the like were just the moral that some people, a long time ago, agreed that was the "most correct", that is, a group of people said "Killing is bad, if you want to live with us you can't kill".
But even then, the law is still relative, since killing someone in self-defense won't get you arrested.
>the sick man of Europe ever being stable
>Finland and France let 15 year olds fuck whoever they want
In the case of France, an exception is made for adults in a position of authority, who can only fuck 18+ year olds. This means the current president of France is technically a rape victim.
Pre-WW1 Germany was very stable from an internal perspective.
It's the continental relationships that were the problem. You know the drill
>too big for europe, too small for the world
You never had an argument, or any evidence. After you realizes you had no evidence, you claimed that the laws being place was justifications for the laws to be in place. You have to be trolling at this point, I refuse to believe someone this stupid is capable of something like writing.
Ah you have perhaps deduced that Tanya is not the only one of her kind, eh?
Cannibalism! We have to free that little girl by any means, get me a blowtorch and a butcher knife!!