The absolute madman.
>when Haruhi wears the ponytail the next day to school
Sequel never ever
The "Have I seen you before?" or when he asks here about her hair?
I found a girl with long, straight black hair decorated with a flashy hair band adorning her perfectly proportioned face as she stared back at the gawking students with unusually large, black, determined eyes adorned with long, fringed eyelashes, her soft pink lips tightly pursed.
I was dazzled by Haruhi’s snow-white skin. A striking beauty stood before me. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter one.
The next day, she would walk in with a ponytail, looking flawless from every angle. The way it looks so perfect on her is almost more than I can bear. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter one. (Not in the anime)
But damn, she was hot… I mean, let’s move on. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter one.
When I turned around in rage and indignation, I found Haruhi standing and grabbing my collar with—for the first time ever—a smile reminiscent of a blazing sun in an equatorial sky. If you could take the temperature of a smile, hers would have matched the climate in the middle of a rain forest. [...] Haruhi looked at me with her eyes shining as brightly as Alpha Cygni. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter one.
She said this with a smile like cherry blossoms in full bloom. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter two.
As I looked at her from the side, I become newly aware of the softness of the curves of her face. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter seven.
Stuck in a world all alone with a girl I know and I end up kissing her. Freud would have a field day with this. Did I really have a dream that’s such an easy read?
If it had been Asahina, I could have picked at my honest desires within the dream. But it was Haruhi, of all people. What the hell was my subconscious thinking about?
My right hand was covered in sweat and I could still feel a warm sensation on my lips. – The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, chapter seven.
He describes her special "SOS Brigade smile"
She's the only girl that matters in Kyon's life, to be honest.
The excuse for that is she literally had no friends until high school, she was essentially ostracized for most of her childhood. It's not wonder she doesn't know how to treat people normally.
She does change though, you'd know that if you paid closer attention to the show, or perhaps even read the novels.
>does fun things with her friends
Just the worst.
This anime is the most overrated garbage ever. Even Naruto has more value than this shit
Seriously, even the protagonist's name is Kyon, Kyo is the most pleb shit ever
And to think there is people who got cucked by the endless 8 and still defend this cancer is beyond me
Tsudere classically means someone cold or stadoffish who warms over time. And he's obviously not one of the modern crap bipolar kind. He is simply a case of "thou doth protest too much". She is also obnoxious as fuck especially before she calms down a little and her powers become more subtle.
Part of the reason people say Kyon is really god is because Haruhi fulfills he actual wishes. And he almost literally created her to be that way as John Smith. He doesn't believe in Santa or UFOs but wants to. At the least there is a little bit of chicken and the egg syndrome.
Kyon is a textbook unreliable narrator. And what does it ALWAYS mean when someone or can't shut up about how much they don't care about something or aren't interested in a girl?
Why does he drag his ass to the clubroom every day despite being blase about most things and commenting all the time about how tired he is? Plus, he is the only one with no actual reason to be there.
Why? "Do you mean you really don't know?"
Every time this is reposted I am bothered by the fucking failure of the reply to the liking reading books question. Not everyone is turbo happy to adventure, some just want to spend quiet evenings reading books.
She believes in the importance of study and reading. If you just want to sit and read, maybe you should at least try to have some friends and swim in the pool for a while before you go under the umbrella to read. Or read on water skiis. If you can't read while skiing that's your own damn fault. Or I guess you can find a second folding chair.
I liked Haruhi but I will agree with you about Endless Eight. It would have been okay for 2 or 3 episodes, but it went on for 8 EPISODES. I don't know how I sat through it.
Somebody should have been publicly horsewhipped for releasing that pretentious bullshit.
I just snipped a few tidbits from a huge file. There are dozens of instances of this somebody cataloged.
>importance of study
See, you still don't understand it. The reading? It's not to get good grades. It's not because you need to. It's because you WANT to.
There are people out there whose happiness is spending a quiet evening with the only sounds being rain droplets hitting the window, and quiet rustling of turning pages. There is literally nothing wrong with that.
>I wonder was Yuki's character inspired by Rei Ayanami?
She's basically a carbon copy. It's amazing how many shows have characters who are just Rei/Asuka/Shinji ripoffs.
The best Rei expy out there. Personally I'm just upset at her being robbed of her happiness. Of her being robbed of her dream by the one person she trusted enough to show it to.
Nagato just wanted to be a normal girl. A quiet bookworm. And Kyon didn't let her, instead forcing bullshit ideals on her.
The show dictates that Haruhi will burst in and destroy the peace and quiet. My belief is that this peace and quiet does not deserve to be destroyed.
Kyon isn't go you retard. The novels imply that
he controls who gets the godly powers though.
Well you can't really pin that on Haruhi,she never wished for that and according to Yuki, didn't cause it. She just wanted some kind of alien.
Also it's not necessarily obvious but Yuki is not a tool or a patsy. She is a primary actor in her "race" as it were and her presence is partially if not entirely her idea. They are sort of a hivemind but she is super powerful in her faction and maybe even its leader or originator.
Her whole problem is because Haruhi sucks her into SOS madness and causes her to have "errors". It's literally the argument about whether creating sentient life that can feel is a good or evil thing to do.
At any rate nothing bad that happens to Yuki is Haruhi's fault as a person. They make chocolate, go swimming, and hang out together and that's fun and the beginning and end of it as far as Haruhi knows.
Don't forget either that the rest of the Entity cannot try to punish Yuki for Disappearance because *Haruhi would melt down the goddamn universe* if something happened to her friend.
>when Kyon bursts into the clubroom to find Haruhi considering putting her hair up because he's angry at her
it's definitely not the same, up until a few years ago it was pretty hard not to come across Eva threads while browsing /a/ and it's only recently started to die down a little, and Eva is 10 years younger than Haruhi, steam for the series started loosing traction pretty quickly after the movie, I see these threads and can only see the same people making them, new people get into Eva all the time but I don't see the same happening to Haruhi, it's a show that will mostly only ever belong to the people who were part of the craze back then and new comers will be mostly left not getting it I feel.
That's where I got it, but I am not Data Integration Sentient Entity enough to find it again :/
Hmmm Kyon decing how to tell his kid sister why he is going to visit a young woman he smashed in the face in the hospital. Mikuru and the others obviously never come near him again and christ only knows what Nagato would do. "Sorry sis, Haruhi won't be playing any more video games with you because I busted a small woman's face ope in a fit of jealous rage disguised as social justice."
Btw,are you Asakura, Anon?
Tell your sister that Haruhi is a piece of shit. Ignore everyone else in the brigade at least as far as their opinions on the event. What can they do about it? I mean God damn. Assuming the world still exists they still need Kyon to keep Haruhi in check. He's the fucking linch pin here, what do they think they're gonna do about it?
I see your point, but it's not just autistic nostalgia claiming broadcast order is better. The episode-to-episode pacing of Season 1 really was designed around how the show was first broadcast, and it makes for a more satisfying first watch.
The original thread where the anon posted all of these with their corresponding images from the anime was excellent.
You're thinking like some third-person strategist.
Think like a teenager who just put his fist into a 110lb girl's face in a jealous tantrum. And who now has to deal with it. It's not even about the fact that she'd implode the world (she would't). It's the fact that you would be a huge cunt rag overreacting. Also Mikuru would hate your guts.
Yeah sure Haruhi was out of line but not "physical assault time" out of line. The Women's Shelter Of Haruhi Suzumiya.
Also expelled because that is in fact how schools work in Japan. School rules apply at all times.
This is all neither here nor there though. The bottom line is yeah Haruhi was being a huge cunt. She was bopping Mikuru with a little plastic or paper cone. She had their other friend spike her drink. Called Mikuru her toy. It is Haruhi's darkest moment and very scary.
But let's be clear here. Kyon is not mad at the injustice of the treatment of Mikuru (a girl he hides slutty photos of that he helped Haruhi take). He is mad at Haruhi's increasing detachment from reality which is dangerous but Kyon, based as he is, doesn't give a fuck about the danger. He is pissed that she is spoiled and treating people like playthings and tools. A beating serves no purpose though.
Seeing that Kyon (alone of all people) has truly snapped is the cold water in the face she needed. He hurt her plenty.
From that point on she is a different person. He bitches but she always knows deep down that he is her total co-conspirator and they have an unspoken trust. They both broke that trust, she learns what that feels like, and THAT is her character arc.
Soul-crushed baseball game kid Haruhi-> football field alien message middle school angry Haruhi->disillusioned bitter high school introduction Haruhi-> SOS maniac Haruhi-> movie making tyrant delusional sociopath Haruhi-> heartbroken post-Kyon "breakup" Haruhi-> God Knows singer Haruhi who takes joy in activities with ordinary humans and feels what gratitude is, Haruhi
Eventually, collage with Kyon Haruhi.
Breaking her teeth serves 0 purpose and has 0 justification and is primarily cheered for by people "because she's being a bitch". Yeah no try harder.
Kyon wasn't supposed to say anything in reply. She probably would have just claimed he didn't understand no matter what he tried to say. Besides, that nihilistic shit is the kind of thing you have to grow out of on your own.
It's not that complicated. Imagine being her trying to tell something she feels is important to the guy she likes and he just stands there not saying anything and staring off into space. That girl is probably left feeling pretty shitty and you can figure out pretty easily why she would just walk away from him and why he would feel like she doesn't want him to follow(Happy friends don't just walk away from each other without saying goodbye).
And for Kyon I mean sure no guy would know what to say but he doesn't have to cite poetry to her. Just show interest, be present there's a ton of things he could say to her even if it isn't perfect. Don't forget Kyon likes her too, he's a complete idiot for passing up an opportunity to get closer to her.
I just look at the scene realistically and imagine it's a real life situation, and when I see it that way it's incredibly frustrating.
You got it absolutely all wrong.
Listen to and read the words of Yasashii Boukyaku again.
And think about who Yuki is.
She was scared to lose her memory, her existence as an alien, everything she is. But she changed the world anyways to give Kyon a choice, because she believed he had the right.
The ending has me almost in tears every time I see it, Kyon's heartfelt pledge to protect Yuki.
>Haruhi really enjoyed anything that was unnecessarily flashy. She had such an innocent smile when she was having a good time, and it made her look younger than her actual age, so I found myself averting my eyes. If I stare at her too long, I might get some weird ideas. Well, not that I know what those weird ideas might be.
>Soul-crushed baseball game kid Haruhi-> football field alien message middle school angry Haruhi->disillusioned bitter high school introduction Haruhi-> SOS maniac Haruhi-> movie making tyrant delusional sociopath Haruhi-> heartbroken post-Kyon "breakup" Haruhi-> God Knows singer Haruhi who takes joy in activities with ordinary humans and feels what gratitude is, Haruhi
>Eventually, collage with Kyon Haruhi.
Saved, but you missed some Haruhis in between.
The point is that he doesn't have an answer, he's just as lost as her concerning those things. He can only acknowledge it but not rationalize it (which could have prevented Haruhi's big crisis a few days later)
How would pic related have handled that?
Yeah exactly, he could ackknowledge it. He could have said something to her and not just stared off while she felt sad and walked away. It's not about having an "answer" it's lame just shitty behaviour.
She neither expects nor tolerates an attempt at an answer. She says her piece and walks away immediately leaving no room for comment and not wanting followed. The monologue begins and ends out of nowhere.
Also I'm not real sure you grow out of that...it's factual knowledge and not something most people ever realize or at least really face. Yes, it's a shadows on a cave wall, ancient form of existential angst. But humanity has made exactly zero progress in solving it. Hence why the idea of having Haruhi's power has such appeal.
The show is about philosophy to a large extent too. And after all she does gradually arc from that outlook to being able to do the best anyone ever can: try to enjoy life, help people, and contribute to the world.
In the LN we find out that she will eventually lose her powers...she won't need them.
You just know he'll kill the God in the end, its in japanese blood.
He's gonna break the mold and fuck the God instead
It sure was. Too bad it's been lost with the old archives.
I still think the funnest part when it comes to scenes like this is that one time he was teleported into her bedroom at like fucking midnight. Landed directly on top of her while she was asleep.
Then kept her from freaking out at all and manged to talk his way out of body slamming her in her own house that he shouldn't even know the location of.
I can't find my Yuki or Koizumi explaining, so have a random Yuki instead.
>tfw relate to this
>tfw in high school I ended up being a leader in my group
>tfw I was content to just play games myself before that or think about stupid fantasy
>tfw actually started emotionally connecting to people for the first time
>discover haruhi around the same time
and that's why i waifu'd the yuki
Between Haruhi and Kyon? Not really. But it's implied they're in college together too.
And that maybe she's found out by then.And then Kyon poofs on top of her in her bedroom. But nothing else happens. But you can pretty much guess that at the very least they're stuck together.
There was also that one scene where he reveals indirectly that he is perfectly aware that Haruhi is interested in him.
He tends to talk about the signs she wants to hang out with him or jealousy like he doesn't understand her thought process. But there is a few scenes were he also flat out says he shouldn't get caught doing something romantic for someone else or "Someone." might get jealous. It's pretty obvious he is unreliable as hell when he narrates what is going on.
remembered the dissapearance book reading this. ya know how kyon bitches about the hike to the school.
went past the school while i was in the area and
nigga wasnt joking about those fucking hills.
The guy who writes it has said he wants to write more books. Problem being it's been about a half decade since the last one. So if he wants to who the hell knows when it will happen.
Adding in that there isn't all that much to animate that hasn't been already and it starts to become obvious why no season 3.
>there isn't all that much to animate that hasn't been already
No, there's enough content for another 2 seasons and a movie without E8.
But there won't be another season without another book for advertising reasons. The jews at Kadokawa wont let it happen.
It would be pretty hard to jam all the rest of the books into a new season due to pacing and the likes. Adding in the series is either dead or the writer is the next GRRM and there just isn't any real incentive for a studio to animate the last bits.
This is what I imagine would happen if they made a new season. 12 episodes of Endless eight.
The first time I watched the series, I skipped the episode 0 thinking it was an OVA. You could do the same, but now that I watched the series and rewatched it, I wish I watched episode 0 when I had to
>mfw I ride my bicycle indoors while I watch animu
I'm a longhair Haruhi man myself, my dick treats her as a completely separate entity from short hair Haruhi even though the difference is superficial.
Haruhi is a miracle no matter how she wears her hair.
Embrace the autism. Don't go out hoping to not spill spaghettis, wait for the moment you'll inevitably spill it. Join a sport club and spill spaghettis with the niggas when you're not busy lifting or running. Also eat pizza to regain strength.
>some weeb forcing his idea of living on others through an anime character
I have the first 40 minutes of disappearance engraved into my memory from watching Haruhi with ancient shitty phone which on connection break had to play it from start.
Never went past that mark in six years of trying it every single christmas/new year's eve.
What are their originals? I was thinking Tamako, Chuu2, Kanata, Free, and Phantom World. Not a huge fan of any of them. I did like the Tamako movie and Chuu2 S1 wasn't that bad, but I definitely prefer their other adaptations more.
And that's what makes the show great, because it showed a person who has thought those thoughts and came to the best and only answer to that question: I am here. From this answer, that isn't even as much of an answer as it is a rebuttal, comes everything else because it is something only a living, breathing thinking person can say to an incomprehensibly large universe. That no matter what, "l" am here and come hell or high water, "l" will make the best of this life that I have. If along the way, I can do the same for even one other person, then all the better.
Here is what HP Lovecraft said about books:
"To my simple old mind, art is merely a more or less unsatisfactory substitute for real life ... Art? By Woden, were not our deeds and battles, our victories and empires, all parts of a poem more wonderful then aught which Homer cou’d strike from a Grecian lyre?"
Lovecraft was a Haruhist, which is why Kyon invoked his name in Disappearance.
>it showed a person who has thought those thoughts and came to the best and only answer to that question: I am here
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
There's a lot of little stuff like that in Haruhi that I'm sure lots of people miss or just ignore.
Haruhi is one of those shows that reminds me that classics don't become classic for no reason, no matter how they're presented. For someone who has no patience for slice of life shows, it's strange how I just couldn't stop watching Haruhi after seeing the first episode all those years ago. I didn't even talk about it much with other people or pay much attention to discussions online, but the ideas and the characters from the show left such an impression on me that I know it has to be something special. It must provided some kind of insight into life, the human condition or whatever.
It's one of these shows where you get what you put in. Tackles a lot of fundamental human things (fitting for some sort of meta SOL), but never really preaches about it, which is for the best I think. My two rewatches were quite different from the first time for that reason, since I'd interpret and notice new things.
>but never really preaches about it, which is for the best
It is. At the end of the day, it is a lighthearted show about supernatural highschoolers, and any attempt to give any kind of definitive answers will come off as dumb at best and condescending at worst. Good shows that want to tackle these kinds of topics will bring them up, show the audience what they're about, explore them by having characters confront them but ultimately leave the audience to figure the rest out for themselves, by themselves. Haruhi did all of these right.
To be honest, I didn't quite get the movie. You could say the the movie dealt with its theme very subtly, but I neither knew what Yuki's goal was nor understood how Kyon's decision at the end was supposed to resolve anything. It didn't seem like Yuki would be able to move on from anything.
>what Yuki's goal was
Not being that girl left out of everything except when it comes to cleaning the mess. Someday in the Rain shows it pretty well
>everyone do their own stuff, hang out together, except Kyon and Yuki who respectively fetch a heater and read in a room
>Kyon and Yuki both end up alone at the end, Yuki stands up
>Kyon wakes up with 2 cardigans, one of them is Haruhi's and the second is implied to be Nagato's, but he just thinks it might be Asahina's and Haruhi interrupts him anyway
>in the end Kyon is rewarded with Haruhi caring for him and teasing him playfully in the rain, and even on duty he got to talk with friends like a normal day
>Nagato, however, was alone from beginning to end, and unlike Kyon, outsiders like Tsuruya totally ignored her besides asking her where the others were. She just got back to her apartment when Kyon fell asleep.
>tomorrow is Disappearance
>how Kyon's decision at the end was supposed to resolve anything
First he's going to care for and protect her instead of asking for her help all the time and forgetting she has feelings. Second, he threatened her boss to make sure she'd be treated better. By genuinely being concerned for her and trying to ensure her good, he can make her a real part of the SOS Brigade, which is almost a family for them at this point.
And third, but it happens after Disappearance, Nagato's bosses stop overloading her with past and future synchronisation (which mean she knows everything she'll do and it's boring as hell). She can grow more into a person of her own, without the Disappearanceverse moe smiles, which are arguably fake and that Kyon called unnecessary.
Didn't think this post would be so long, so here's a cute Haruhi.
Yea, i went there last year in the summer and i cant imagine hiking there every day in the blistering heat
i would sacrifice my soul for the opportunity though
When you put it like that, it makes a lot more sense. I think I'll do another marathon sometime with the first season, endless 8 and the movie. I saw it years after the show and just had this impression of Yuki being the super capable straightman of the group so her characterizations in the film was a little disconcerting.
Not that anon, but Yuki is definitely one of my favorites when you consider dandere-like characters. She goes through so much shit and her release in Disappearance makes it all so worth it. People meme about endless 8, but that is an insignificant fraction compared to what Yuki went through. I've only gone through it once, but it made me love Yuki that much more.
>Yuki being the super capable straightman of the group
That's what she is for the most part but you have several scenes that hint at her real personality. Obviously there's Endless Eight which supposedly made her snap and triggered Disappearance, but there are also other episodes and dialogues where you can tell more things about her. One of my favorite scene is after Koizumi and Mikuru both try to pit Kyon against the other and Kyon goes to ask Yuki who's right and what's Yuki's own theory about Haruhi. Only for Yuki to answer that what she thinks doesn't matter since she can't prove it to Kyon and leave the room, looking somewhat sad, even broken.
But as you said most of her characterization come from the movie, including the ED lyrics sang by her seiyuu.
Join me anon. I've been taking it real slow in an arc or two per day and it has been nice.
>3D posters in 2D
I appreciate it anon.
christ i dont want to imagine how hot it would of been
This angle is pretty good.
So what happens when Kyon fucks Haruhi?
The universe gets destroyed and rest because she's disappointed?
Infinite time loop because she enjoyed it and wants more?
The universe cease to exist because she's now satisfied?
This feels like the worst arc in the animu, somehow the fanservice doesn't make up for it.
Anon, you didn't have to bump like this.
Goodnight, it was a nice thread while it lasted.
I'm glad this thread was made, I just finished SMS after a 7 year hiatus (baka closed their shit), and have now seen that everything has been officially translated as of 4 years ago. Time really flies.
I can't trust people who don't
Nice, I went to the tamako market too.
The world explodes and then is pieced back together in an instant. The espers finally get a chance to take a vacation as the aftershocks would destroy all of the giants for a couple of weeks.
After 10 years of waiting I am now fully convinced, the LN author (forgot his name) will NEVER EVER continue the manga, and we will NEVER EVER EVER FOR NEVER EVER get a S3.
Haruhi is dead, only lives on in our hearts.
Is it real to say that the novels are on hiatus? I know Tanigawa hasn't said anything about them being over, but he hasn't said
anything about writing more volumes either, as a matter of fact that nigga went MIA as soon as he finished vol. 11. Even
wikipediawent out of their way to state that the novels are over.
Actually, is it a big deal to not have more novels besides anime adaptations? I haven't read the non-adapted novels but from what
I read the story was pretty conclusive with the latest novel.
Kadokawa probably dogged him into churning out new books for years, I'm guessing that after he was done with book 11 he wanted to give it a rest, having lots of dosh and all that.
I'm pretty sure he has said at some point that he plans on finishing them at some point or another. That was years ago though. He doesn't seem to be doing all that much these days.
Would you save her /a/? or would you leave her?
Well, this thread got me to start rewatching it again, version I got for archive a few years back is in chronological order tho, oh well
It was by the guy who did Eureka 7. They asked around for artwork for an official Haruhi manga collection they were releasing and decided they liked that picture enough to accept it as bonus artwork. So it was officially released artwork at least.
We'll never know because the writer seems to have vanished off the face of the earth. Closest we got for confirmation on anything with those two is that those two go to college together in the future and that Haruhi seems a lot more open with him then.
This was a nice thread. I've never thought of the series as deeply or on a philosophical level before and now I feel like rewatching it again so I can catch things that I might have missed. 14 year old me only watched the damn show because Haruhi is a fucking qt and I love her design.
>dub >ever I will never understand you fags. Dubs of all kinds are generally trash. I didn't like it when they dubbed English cartoons to Spanish and I sure as hell don't like it when they dub chinese cartoons to English either. Most moon VAs are high tier, the difference in quality is astronomical at times.
>Most moon VAs are high tier, the difference in quality is astronomical at times.
I agree completely. I'm not arguing any sort of general case in all anime. But I do think there are a few exceptions that prove the rule. In
the dub ofEndless Eight, Kyon's narration was fun. Not better than the original, but he made every iteration entertaining.
It's fun on its own, but what makes this series a favorite of mine are some of the messages, the themes, the shifting balance between Haruhi's creativity and Kyon's down to earth attitude. It resonated with me back then and even now, although differently.
Kyon's nickname is the romanization of the Greek word κῠ́ων, meaning "dog". Which superficially makes sense if you think he follows Haruhi around like a loyal pet. But κῠ́ων was also a nickname given to Diogenes of Sinope and directly lead to the name of the school of philosophy he helped found: Cynicism. The tenets of which include being down to earth, avoiding negative social conventions, valuing mental clarity, and practicing παρρησία. A good translation of parrhesia is "to speak truth to power, no matter the cost". Sound familiar?
>the shifting balance between Haruhi's creativity and Kyon's down to earth attitude.
What I really kind of like about their dynamic is when you get down into it. Haruhi wants things like espers to be real but when you get down into it is far too realistic and cynical to believe it could be true. Meanwhile Kyon seems like he would be the type to be too realistic to believe it but when you get down into it he is one of the top people who enjoys things like that.
That's why they complement each other well. After Disappearance, Kyon eventually becomes the one focused on supernatural and Haruhi the more down to earth person who just wants to enjoy searching for these things with the brigade rather than finding them. In the first place they would never find these things because Haruhi is a realistic person deep down, but after Disappearance it's because her interests are slightly different.
I STILL I STILL I LOVE YOU
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