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Is this the most unattractive MC ever in a mahou shoujo series,

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Is this the most unattractive MC ever in a mahou shoujo series, or anything else with a predominantly female cast? I seriously don't know what the fuck they were thinking with this design. She' about as sexy as a knee. I'm honestly more attracted to the bug people with Down syndrome from 90's anime than to her.
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>>159687710
rude
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>>159687710
>not liking your women having muscles of titanium and the gumption to punch a mountain
i'm sorry your taste is so terrible
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>>159687710
Serious question. Are you actually gay?
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>>159687710
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What a sad and lonely world you live in.
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>>159687924
Has nothing to do with her muscles, try her face and hair. She doesn't look particularity muscular at all, anyway.
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Any of you guys playing the mobage?
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>>159687798
Her name is read the fucking filename and maybe look it up, you idiot. You saucefags get dumber every day.
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>again with the hair
her hair looks fine dammit.
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>>159688068
stop anon you don't know what you're unleashing on this poor thread, we just went through a 500 post shitstorm by an autistic shipfag
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>>159688134
It's too late. We've already opened pandora's box.
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>>159688168
oh fuck he's here already
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Less shitposting, more cute pictures of Hibiki.
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>>159688299
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>Commie subs
why?
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>>159688338
because god is dead

>>159688299
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>>159688338
Lack of choices really
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g'nite fags
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>>159687710
Ugly and punchable face.
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>>159688068
I couldn't decide if OP triggered me enough to reply, but this pushes me over the line. This is completely unacceptable.

Countering with happy Bikki/Miku
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Season 1 Gaijin where?
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>>159688433
>Bikkibutt is blocked
>Flat swordbutt is plainly visable
>Chris is mocking my frustration
pic related
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>>159687924
What muscles?
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>>159688068
Tfw no bikki gf
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>>159687710
>mahou shoujo series
Symphogear is mecha musume line Nanoha not mahou shoujo like Precure.
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>>159687710

It could be worst anon MUCH WORST
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>>159688068
Why the fuck is this so hard to find
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>>159687710
Actually you're just gay.
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>>159688329
What does fresh Miku piss taste like?
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>what's up, baby?
When did Maria become such a Chad?
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>>159687710
>Mahou Shoujo
It's a heroine show, the director agrees.
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>>159689048
I'll leave once I've managed to find it
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>>159689080
>henshins
>miracles
>hand holding
>girls with magic powers
Seems like Mahou Shoujo to me
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Post some Hibiki FEET.
Or some Cagliostro.
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>>159688035
>Bikki hair
>shit

Eat a dick, fucko.
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>>159688134
Shitstorm aside, was chris really pimped?
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>>159689322
yes
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>>159689048
Why is it so important to you that people that watch Symphogear not enjoy hetero?
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>>159689420
yuri is a mental disease
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VAL VERDE?
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>>159689455
DATTO?!
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>>159689505
Was there really a DATTO?
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>>159689548
Soon.
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>tfw just listened to Kirika's DE-DE-DE-DESS song

Is this what happiness feels like?
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>>159689215
I haven't watched this show but I think you are forgetting other key aspects

Is every episode an infomercial for overpriced plastic toys?

Does the show has an annoying and generally useless mascot character in the shape of an small animal that is also sold as a toy?

Does every episode consist of a SOL segment + a short battle in the end?

Does every enemy purified (not killed) with an stock finisher attack?
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>>159687710
muh dick disagrees with you
and muh dick is never wrong
maybe ur dick is not working properly
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>>159687924
What?
No.
Gay.
NO!
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>>159687710
How is this not sexy Anon?
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>>159689322
Yeah. There's no ambiguity in what happened to her as a kid if you look at the literal translation.
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>>159689639
Madoka is a no to all of those questions, is it not a mahou shoujo then?
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>>159689770
So she's used goods?
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>>159689964
yes, literally roast beef tier
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>>159689420
>hetero
Don't care, you do you, whatever.

>self-insert it's-just-like-she's-really-my-girlfriend bullshit
Sad.
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>>159687710
Allow me to disprove your argument with one picture.
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>>159690428
Hibiki has the most perfect proportions of any being real or fake.
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>>159689735
just because she's gay doesnt mean you can't be attracted to her
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>>159689964
>>159690058
Aren't they trying to retcon that?
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>>159690476
>no u

No.
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>>159690498
No? They just stopped mentioning it because it hasn't really been relevant. Her drama centered around her dead parents in S1 and feeling bad that she helped Fine activate the cane and then Ver was still using it to kill people in G.
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>>159690489
I beg to differ
>Tfw two episodes until Chris transformation
THIS IS ALL MARIA'S FAULT
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>>159690599
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>>159690627
Oh, right, it's the ACK idiot, not the idiot I was actually replying to. Never mind. Oh well, at least if you start sperging through here then maybe a less stupid thread will be spared for a while.
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>>159689639
Not every mahou shoujo needs to sell toys (unless you count figures) or be so formulaic. That's more just a quality of kids shows, and there are straight forward innocent mahou shoujo series aimed at adults too.
Symphogear is missing a mascot character, but it falls under the same category as Nanoha.

>>159689921
Lots of people don't consider it one.
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>>159690599
You call that a thigh?
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>>159689921
Madoka is what happens when you take something that is meant for kids, mix it with adult content and sell it like something original.

But I like it anyways
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>>159690649
Man, Maria would be great if she wasn't shit.
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>Topdad is in the anthology comic
>He's now basically the male version of Hibiki but without all the cool parts
There's one page where the girls are going to a arcade and Topdad pulls out his wallet to give Hibiki some money and the punchline is that he actually has money, so there's somewhat of an acknowledgement of what he's done be he's still basically forgiven. I don't mind him texting or calling Hibiki so that they can show that he's trying but I really hope he doesn't eat up more than a minute of screentime.
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>>159690599
>>159690714
Bitches please, less is more.
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>>159690707
>Symphogear is missing a mascot character
That's what Elf9 is for
>Fluffy
>Squeaky voice
>Upgrades the girl's magical girl shit for them
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>>159690599
Oh god that mound of Venus. I must impregnate.
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>>159690649
This needs a "came here to laugh at you" caption.
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>>159687710
Knees are pretty sexy, faggot.
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>>159690867
Back off pal
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>>159690707
>>159690815
The mascot is Gungnir-chan.
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>>159687710
>about as sexy as a knee
I would the back of that knee.
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>>159690889
This is the closest I have.
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>>159689921
Is Kamen Rider with skirts and less filler. So yea kinda.
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>>159690815
At least Elfcarol isn't annoying, as mascots usually are.
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>>159690627
>The problem with it in the first place is it demeaning the character's important relationships.
Not a legitimate concern. The concept of it being such an important factor downplays the purpose of the series as a form of shallow, low-investment entertainment as opposed to something like LoGH that contains little to no pandering, sexualization, or cheap thrills and poor writing, in which case such a concern would be highly legitimate. This does not mean Symphogear is bad, mind you, just that its intended purpose and execution is not in line with the concerns you presented.
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Thankfully we have girls like Chris to counter Biki's manliness.
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I like magical girls and nana mizuki but I could only watch the first season of this because aoi yuki's singing is awful.
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>>159691069
I didn't know deaf people watched Symphogear too
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>>159690497
You're right. But being gay kinda makes them less attractive. Yeah the whole "overpower them then use my massive pulsating dick to dominate and hate fuck their unreasonably tight cunt till they cum against their will over and over again and drag them kicking and screaming into bisexuality" thing is a fun fantasy..but..

And when you add on them being not at all attractive on top of them being flamingly dyke.
Well...

No.
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>>159687710
ewww
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>>159691358
>He can't self insert as a girl.

Sorry anon but you are clearly a homosexual.
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>the mobage has an alternate universe storyline about Kanade being alive and interacting with the current gears
;_;
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>>159691548

>Self-inserting as a female

What are you, a fucking man of fine taste?
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>>159691625
I want to insert myself into Chris, does that count?
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>>159688068
>Unyon
He make me know that waifufags have a hard life.
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I started watching this series yesterday. These characters have really dumb hair.
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>>159687710
>commie
>unattractive MC
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>>159691884
You really should watch Shiki one day.
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>someone messes up
>Maria scolds them

>Elfnein messes up
>Maria spoils her
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>>159691950
Sorry for watching the only subs available for that particular episode.
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>>159687710
Yeah, Hibiki is a shit Mary Sue MC and you should feel bad for liking her.
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>>159690599
too flat
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>>159691069
You use this shitpost too often, it's lost its potency. No one can seriously believe that anyone holds this non-opinion.
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>>159687710
Isn't she meant to appeal to dykes?
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>>159692453
Dyke here, she's ugly.
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>>159687710
I didn't know this level of faggotry was even possible as the OP. Bravo.
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>>159689322
>>159689770
>>159689964
Fucking dropped, and I was going to watch it for her too.
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>>159692568
Bigger dyke, she's great.
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>>159688338
[Kirika noises]
Commie is still shit, I'd rather have a non meme alternative.
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>>159692568
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>>159692627
I can't even begin to put myself in the shoes of someone who thinks like this
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>>159692669
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>>159692627
You don't deserve the Zenbu
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>>159689770
That's not really true. It's probably what the intended reading was, but if they want to address it differently now it's actually coming up as part of the plot, it could easily just be written off as Chris being blunt and crude.
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I though everyone here likes Hibiki?
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>>159692815
Everyone does, in fact, like Hibiki.
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>>159692815
I can understand why people would start to hate her after the abomination that was GX. At least Carol's song was great.
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>Season 1 - fucking great
>Season 2 - utter trash
>Season 3 - first episode was amazing and then it spirals into utter trash again

i wanted to love this but i hate it so much now
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>>159692835
But I hate Hibiki, she's an awful character.
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>>159689038
Salty and warm like a sunshine.
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>>159692910
>Season 1 - fucking great
Take off your goggles, S1 was just as bad as S2 and I loved it. S3 doesn't count.
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>>159692934
I can understand how disheartening it is to realize that you will never be as cool as Hibiki, but lashing out in jealousy won't make it better.
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>>159692910
This,
S1 >> S2 = shit > S3
Where should I put S4?
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So I'm on episode 4 of GX, is alchemy the biggest bullshit, or is everyone just jobbing?
Also Chris best girl
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>>159692987
Carol is OP, nerf inc
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>>159692910
Three was great
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>>159692934
Wrong thread, Ange.
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>>159692987
Combination of both. Carol is fucking broken.
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>>159692987
Chris is ok but Hibiki is a shit.
This series needs a new MC.
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>>159693112
I nominate Dess
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Where the fuck did Hibikis 3rd gear come from?

First she gets the power from the shards of the gear in her tits until she gets nuked by the doctors laser.

After that she uses the gear crystal of whats her face until it gets broken and like half an episode later she gets a THIRD gear crystal out of fucking nowhere and just merrily keeps using it.
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>>159692568
>>159692629
Well, lesbians? Which is it?!
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>>159692815
Like and want to fuck right in the pussy are two different things.
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>>159693169
I really hoped we wouldnt see those two in the 3rd season again.
Their gear designs are just bad and unimaginative.
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These two should come back as a pair.
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>>159687710
That's the point.
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>>159692910
Symphogear should have ended at season 2 at the most. But Nana must continue to will CD sales so eh. I wish she'd put some more will into Nanoha but ehh...
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>>159693242
y
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All three seasons were excessively entertaining whether they were good or bad, and the fourth season will be exactly the same.
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I think she's cute, she's like a lesbian Japanese Akko.
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>>159693349
but she's confirmed straight
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>>159693388
Can't argue with those numbers
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>>159687710

So I'm new here and I'm only on level 5/6 because I've been busy this week but I do know that I thought I'd like Hibiki the best and the blue hair girl and Chris would be characters that I dislike or hate but strangely I actually like Chris the best so far which is weird because I usually hate characters like her and everything they stand for but she's somehow different and that blue hair girl is okay but her voice is better than Hibiki's but as you can she's she hasn't really made that big of an impact for me because I can't even remember her name.
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>>159693502
Blue hair girl has no character.

The only interesting part of her is who her father is. Boy did i laugh when it was revealed in season 3, and it has no impact on the story or anything at all
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>>159693237
They might end up meeting in XDU. Kanade says she'll try looking for the alternate universe's Maria; and XDU being what it is means Maria will probably have died in the FIS incident while Serena lives.
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>>159693502
Anon, are you ok?
Is this pasta?
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>>159693567
I can't really remember how Chris sound when she sings because it's been a couple of days but as of what I know at this moment I think the blue hair girl probably has the best voice so far but like I said I have high hopes for Chris.
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>>159692627
Don't worry, this season will retcon all that.
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Hello daughter i walked out on because you survived a calamity and who i haven't had contact in years. Pay for my lunch!

I hate you dad!

By the way, remember that half assed catch phrase i told you when you were a toddler!

I remember! I love you dad!
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>>159687710
You fookin wot m8?
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I think her biggest problem is she let her tsundere shell break far too easily. She really didn't even make Hibiki work that hard to find a way inside her heart and that disappointed me.
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>>159693502
>>159693567
>Blue hair girl has no character.
You mean the sword?
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Bringing back Carol and Dr. Ver when
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>>159693841
Oops, forgot to detach this image of a beloved Symphogear character
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>>159693841
Never ever.
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>>159693193
Elf9 fixed/repaired the geahs when she added the dubstep module.

Same thing happened with Airgetlam.
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>>159693806
Don't me mad? Like I said I'm new so I have no idea who I'll end up liking for sure yet or the motivations of the characters themselves until much later in the series. All I know for sure at this point is that Chris is super cute and that's not even the main reason I like her. That's just a bonus.
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>>159687710
Is this pasta?
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>>159694002
This is pasta.
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I know my opinion doesn't mean that much here yet but I will say blue swords hairstyle is 100% definitely nerd status and she should be fined actual money or have to pay additional taxes for wearing it so casually.
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>>159692453
Dyke here. She's hot as hell.
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Is it coincidence that Maria rhymes with worst Geah?
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>>159694093
It's a wing you utter pleb.
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>>159694148
Maria Diarrhea.
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>>159694093
>inb4 swords don't care about fashion

She's not a very good looking sword then. She looks like a battle axe.
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>>159694080
This is Chris eating pasta.
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>>159692568
>>159692629
>>159694128
Isn't pretty much everyone on /a/ a dyke? We're all little girls and most of us have a female waifu.
I have yet to see an anon who doesn't self insert as Miku.
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>>159694199
I want to cook for Chris!
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>>159694199
She's an elegant Raiper. She will show no mercy to the stragglers in this series and frankly the other girls don't seem like a threat at this point but what do I know.
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>>159694297
tfw Chris will never rapier you
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>>159694199
She is literally perfect.
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Glad after 150+ post this is finally a Chris thread.
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>>159694080
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>>159694372
Don't be silly, it's always been a Chris thread
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>>159693349
>a lesbian Japanese Akko
So, Akko?
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>You will never get to train with a lewd, sweaty Maria
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>>159694372
We wouldn't have his problem if they didn't execute her character so perfectly. I feel like merging with her in that ocean of LCL from Eva. I want to understand what's inside her heart.
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>>159694479
>Ogawa checking Maria out from all angles
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>>159694479
Can I exchange the pink facehugger for a Zenbu?
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>>159694479
She probably stinks like shit
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I want to look like a complete idiot singing like a maniac while fighting monsters dbz style with Chris.
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>>159687710
Shitty looking MC for a shitty series
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>>159693169
The thumbnail looks like she has four arms.
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>>159694199
>>159694333
This scene was cute, but I immediately became sad upon realization that her lack of table manners is a result of her childhood spent in literal slavery and barely getting anything to eat, and certainly never at a table.
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>>159693963
But I'm not mad? I was joking. Tsubasa wanted to become sword, or something like that in the show (been a few years since I watched it).
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>>159687710
>Is this the most unattractive MC ever in a mahou shoujo series
Shut the fuck up you piece of fucking garbage, holy shit.
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The singing while fighting makes me cringe every time but I can't stop watching for whatever reason. It's almost like I enjoy it but I logically know how ridiculous it is.
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>>159694333
Except down there.
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>>159694479
>you will never be a ninja either
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It's kinda funny that I know deep down that Hibiki will never get 100% credit for anything she does because in the back of my head I'll always think the only reason she's even relevant is because she was at the right place at the right time and caused the death of blue swords best friend and even though I'll think I like her at times I'll always feel a hatred for her especially because of her entitled ignorance and how selfish she is.
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>>159694616
I just mute my player when they start singing.
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>>159694740
>Blaming Bikkie for Kanade's death
Go to bed, Tsubasa.
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>>159694781
It's probably for the best. I like the songs but the combination makes me feel uneasy.
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>>159694616
>>159694781
This is an 18+ website.
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>>159694810
I hope you get touched by the noise.
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YASSAI
MOSSAI
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>>159694906
Even if I do, Chris will save me!
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>>159687710
It sound to me like you've got a terminal case of shit taste.
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You now realize the zesshoushinai shorts are better overall than G or GX.
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>>159694589
What are you talking about? She got plenty to eat but semen isn't particularly nutritious and it all went to her breasts instead of her brains.
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>>159688881
I swear to god, I'm going to sit you down and have a nice talk to you about differing opinions about who best GoPri is.
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What the fuck is this dumb cunt's problem? This is the definition of forced drama
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>>159694859
Bikki is so cute when she's angry
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>>159695294
He was going to be the next Maradona.
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>>159688068
Would Miku use a relic to transform herself into a man so she could plow/impregnate the Biki?
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>>159694479
>you will never move so fast your afterimages become physical
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>>159687710
Would Topdad be happy his daughter might marry another girl?
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>>159690707
Isn't the mascot Genjuro?
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>>159687710
B-but I love Bikki
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>>159695379
Girls can't marry dumbass.
Also I forgot my wallet. Thanks for the steak.
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>>159693873
>implying 11-9 won't have a massive crisis of confidence that leads to Carol taking over the body for a little while to help out and make her feel better
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>>159695141
I want to go to an obscure regional festival with Chris!
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>>159694479
I hope Ogawa and Genjurou get to do something significant this season
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>>159695512
>something significant
I hope it's each other.
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This thread is severely lacking in the best character.
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>>159695379
As long as Miku's family pays for the wedding and the reception has free food and an open bar
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>>159695294
Welcome to Symphogear writing.
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>>159695294
I wouldn't say it's forced, it's actually believable. I hate it, but it is what it is.
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>>159687710
>doesn't like Hibiki
Have you considered the possibility that you might be gay?
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>>159694616
>>159694781
Crap opinions.
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>>159693193
And then there are people like this that refuse to pay attention to any details at all.
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>>159694616
>>159694781
>people like this exist
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I lone Topdad as a character because he funny like a Saturday Morning Cartoon villain in being a piece of trash.
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When does she get a gear?
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I mean Love
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>>159695863
Topdad at his worst is quite a handful, but ultimately he can be changed. Hibiki is a ray of sunshine, all she needs to do is take the reins and get his ass in gear.
Topdad's never gonna be a Genjuro mind you, but he definitely has the power to become a better person.
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>>159687710
Why can't this shit anime die
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>>159695970
Because it's fun and people enjoy watching it
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>>159695970
It is kept alive by the power of Nana.
Also, anyone with an ounce of taste likes it.
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>>159695970
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>>159695970
Because somehow we can still have a few nice things.
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>wwyd
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>>159695970
Reminder that S5 is already confirmed.
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>>159696105
Wake her up and ask if she's seen Chris anywhere
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>>159695970
Sorry whichever shit anime you like didn't get two new seasons announced at the same time, faggot. Sour grapes.
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I want to fuck a sword
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>>159696119
Also Nana and Aoi want a S1 movie.
Nana gets what Nana wants.
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>>159695970
Nana wills it
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I hate Hibiki so stop posting her here.
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>>159696235
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>>159687710
We need ugly girls like Biki, so that girls like Fuuka can shine brighter.
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>>159695524
I concur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtFGRci8PVQ
I did not think anything could justify Men In White's existence, I did not expect to be proven wrong like this.
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Just saw the second episode of AXZ, man that was fucking good, even Maria was cool as fuck.
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>>159695735
Don't foist that faggot on the gays. Even they can appreciate Biki's base aesthetics and sheer hot-bloodedness
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Ugliest and stupidest. Also, worst fanbase next to Madoka.
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>>159696458
>not a new IP
Tell me more.
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>>159695970
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>>159696458
This.
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Sorry that you have such an awful taste, OP.
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>>159696475
Your extension is broken.
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Chris was raped as a child
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>>159696553
by me
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>>159696551
No.
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He's really gone isn't he?
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>>159696596
You're not very bright, are you?
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>>159696620
>that (94)
>y-you're stupid
Play again next time kiddo.
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>>159696553
And yet she's still the most well adjusted one of them, and the only one that actually uses her brain.
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>>159696644
>Doesn't know how the extension app can count IPs wrong
>Posts Biki
Sounds about right.
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>>159687710
Fucking die, faggot.
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>>159687710
Yeah, I don't get her character design at all. The hair is probably the worst aspect.

She's like, boyish, but not in a cute tomboy "actually really feminine" way. Just boyish. Like a 3DPD dyke.
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People cant' accept that Hibiki, a girl, is manlier than they will ever be.
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>>159696811
>Everyone here is a little bitch who is out of shape
I know Bikifags are, and they think they're not gay for wanting her futa fuck up their ass, but not everyone here is like that.
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>>159696811
>manly girl
No, thanks.
Disgusting
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Today I will remind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AxGZ0r_XLc
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>>159696870
You could be in perfect physical condition, but you will never supplex a space shuttle.
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>>159693800
>spent years as an emotionless husk living only for the mission
>has a breakdown when confronted by representations of all her failures and tries to commit suicide by combat
>NDE in which her dead lover tells her to get a grip
Tsubasa's arc was great in S1, and the follow up in GX was one of the only worthwhile parts of the season.
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>>159696918
>Manliness means having magic super strength given to you
Haha, no.
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>>159697063
Just face it, Hibiki is more of a man than you'll ever be.
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>>159697093
>Indecisive
>Breaks down and cries when faced with hard decisions
>Daddy's girl for a piece of shit dad
>Didn't start training till deus ex power up
Haha, no.
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>Tfw you want to join in but you know jack shit about the series compared to everybody else
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>>159697187
Start from s1
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>>159696146
No swords here, only wings.
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>>159697187
Just start watching S1, it's a fucking masterpiece.
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>>159688081
Good to see my waifu from Sketchbook still getting work.
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>>159697148
>strong, physically and mentally
>yet retains the personality of a human being rather than focusing herself to become a weapon
>lives her life for herself
>yet her nature is one that supports and welcomes helping others
>a hero who saved the earth on multiple occasions
>yet humble enough to live with and enjoy the company of those miles below her
>is a master at wielding both an opened and a closed hand
>fights from her heart
>eats
>sleeps
>watches movies
She is the pinnacle of human advancement and power. I would say we should hope she is a merciful God, but she has already proven that she is.
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>>159697295
>Mentally strong
Oh, you're just shitposting. Carry on.
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>>159697336
I guess I won that argument.
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Don't forget that Bikki is actually a man, as confirmed by GX.
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>>159697063
>she was useless in combat despite fusing with Gungnir
>actually had to train to get good
>continues to train so that she can be even better, to the point where she is stronger than ever despite now using a normal symphogear as opposed to being fused with a relic
Nothing was given to her
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Are they trying to make this season's drama even more retarded than GX's?
At least Maria was cool as usual.
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>>159697368
No. Hibiki is a WoMAN.
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>>159697359
Sure, you won just like Hibiki is mentally strong.

>>159697378
Nothing was given to her except for super monster power and a support team to foster it.
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>>159697430
What is that?
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>>159697414
>Maria
>cool
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>>159697414
>Maria was cool as usual
>Maria
>not useless
Since when?
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>>159697435
Did you just skip the first season or something?
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>>159697462
>>159697494
I honestly fail to grasp of how many of these posts are trying to keep up a stale meme and how many are people just having bad taste.
Maria is objectively the coolest and most resolute Symphogear character.
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>>159697498
Nothing I have said is wrong. Hibiki was granted monstrous power, and didn't train at all until she had it. This is objectively correct.
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>>159697521
I understand you want to be contrarian, but that's taking it a bit far.
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>>159697462
Official coolest girls when fighting tier list:

Top tier:
Bikki
Maria

High tier:
Tsubasa
Chris

Dumb vehicles tier:
Kirika
Shirabe
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>>159697521
When transformed*
As soon as she gets out of her gear she goes back to old boring Maria.
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>>159697521
Old hag is not cool, anon
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>>159697528
The entire point is that she was still shit despite having power, she had to train to be able to use it, which was tied to having to develop a sense of responsibility (which was tied to Tsubasa's struggle to define her own sense of responsibility).
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>>159697550
Maria just recycles the moves used by everyone else.
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Maria is such a pathetic loser.
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>>159697521
The amount of people who don't understand Maria's character is astounding, but it's usually just idiots who are GEEWUN-tier about S1 being the only good part of the show.
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>>159697587
And it's fucking cool.
Her songs being really hype also helps.
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Why did Chris kill this child?
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>>159697618
Nobody thinks early G Maria is bad.
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>>159697528
Do you realize exactly what you are saying?
This is like if you berated somebody for never firing a gun before being drafted into the army.
Before the first time she used Gungnir, she had absolutely no reason to train, she was literally a civilian.
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>>159697584
She never trained until she was given literal monster power. Training after being gifted super powers isn't noteworthy, it's expected.
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>>159697655
lol I guess you're just a faggot
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>>159697641
For making too many arguments.
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What the fuck is he talking about? People did die getting the data and they don't even fucking care.
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>>159697587
Tsubasa copied Kanade's Stardust Phonton and Ogawa's Shadow Stitch but no one complains about that.

Hibiki copies movies.

Chris copies Gundam.
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>>159697654
Correct. The point anon was trying to make was that she was super manly. Training after you get super powers isn't manly, it's to be expected. Manly would be if she trained and tried to fight off noise without magic armor and demon strength.
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>>159697672
They were ninja clones or something.
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>>159697672
Random background characters are not people.
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>>159697618
I don't know, maybe it's just me being weird, but a character who's weak, recognises their weakness and keeps persevering in spite, or maybe even because of it is much more admirable in my eyes than a plain strong character. Plus I love Hikasa Yoko's voice, and Maria's songs are great in both melody and lyrics.
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>>159697670
>lol I guess I'm just a retard
I know, anon.
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>>159697685
>tried to fight off noise without the magic armor and demon strength
Now I know you've never actually watched the show. This is literally impossible.
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>>159697682
>Tsubasa uses moves from her dead role model and ninja sensei.
>Hibiki gets inspired by action movies
>Maria can't think of her own shit.
Yes there's absolutely no difference.
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>>159697686
>>159697692
It's fucked up
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>>159697685
>Training after you get super powers isn't manly
According to you, shitposter
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>>159697641
Shooting the kid was the last leg
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>>159697740
Yeah. She had no reason to train before. She just wanted to live an ordinary life.
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>>159697725
>Maria is given her strength because of her friends
Almost like that's part of her development arc or something.
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>>159697718
>Pretends to watch the show
>Doesn't watch the show
Genjuro says hi. So do all the troops that tried to fight them.
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>>159697725
this

stupid Mariafags refuse to acknowledge that she is literally the most uncreative fetishblob in the show

At least Jiiirabe and DESS have their own unique styles with the yo-yos and scythe
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>>159697740
>Not always training is manly
According to, scrawny faggot who's less manly than a scared girl.
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I don't have anything against Maria, I just hate how Kaneko was forcing her so hard in GX and it was just bad.
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>>159696105
bring her to maria. I hope there's a Finderlohn if you catch my drift
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>>159697791
If Genjuro is so strong why doesn't he go out on the front lines to fight the noise?
For that matter, what about Ogawa? He's really freaking strong too and he doesn't have nearly as many responsibilities. Why isn't he on the front lines?
Or have you forgotten that human bodies literally cannot come into contact with the noise without facing certain, instant death?
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No on here hates Tsubasa?
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>>159697791
I think Genjuro was included with "demon strength"
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>>159697851
Maybe they would if she had any screentime.
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>>159696613
>didn't explicitly see him die
he's about as dead as he was when Coral stabbed him through the chest
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>>159697844
Can you not actually read?

>>159697857
Genjuro trained to get his, he never got gifted any. That's manly.
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>>159697794
DMJii are the most boring geahs.
Maria at least got better, cool fights and good development like >>159697714 pointed out.
DMJii is literally muh linker and calling each other names.
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>>159697851
Tsubasa got her angst out of the way in S1, and even the most assravaged anons would have trouble holding a grudge against a sword autist for three whole seasons.
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>>159697851
Hating any of the geahs is grounds for termination of your 4Chan account.
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>>159697851
Why would anyone hate Tsubasa, maybe in season one but now i can't see it.
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>>159697924
Even in season 1, her angst was justified and she sorted it out for the most part by the end. How can you blame her for getting mad when the retard said "I'll do my best to replace your dead best friend!"?
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>>159697781
That's too complex for many. Even though it was basically spelled out in the show.
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>>159697889
I swear I would get farther convincing a brick wall to pick up Genjuro's regimen.
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That was fucking sick
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>>159697924
The best I can come up with is that bike fetishists might take issue with her driving.
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>>159697948
>Angry Bikifag can't follow a conversation and uses the same reaction images to accompany how retarded posts every thread
Yes that's fine and dandy, but you should really learn how to read at some point.
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>>159697851
Tsubasa is un-hatable, even though she isn't the most popular, or even the second most popular, no one can ever fault those who like her because she is objectively flawless.

Like how in Monogatari even though Snailfags aren't super common, they are the only ones no one ever disagrees with or fights.
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>>159697950
I'm fully expecting them to pull this gag again.

>Our last invincible snake was unstable and not actually invincible! Here's our REAL invincible snake made with REAL not-tranny alchemy!
>Hibiki punches it
>It dies again
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>>159697897
If you wanna link to posts two can play this game >>159694148
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>>159698006
I also enjoy that is made Maria look pathetic again, since Biki was able to destory it in one punch.
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>>159698079
Pls don't bully her. She's doing her best
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>>159698006
It'd be better if they do it with Tiki, having Hibiki just pummel and grapple it after they set it loose.
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Is BIG SNEK King Crimson?
Does that make Hibiki GER?
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>>159698181
Tiki looks like a person so Hibiki will try to talk to it first.

It might even talk back, it acted pretty human in the flashback slideshow so it's probably not just a mindless weapon. Who should voice it?
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>>159698267
>dude jojo lmao xD
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>>159698267
I don't think so, but I think you're onto something
>prelati's frog is the actual dragon, and the dragons they summon are just projections of the harmless frog made to both be more menacing, dangerous, and actually have a form
That would be interesting.
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>>159698277
Iguchi.
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>>159698277
>Hibiki trying to talk to a genocidal monster because it looks like a cute girl again
Just kill of Hibiki and let the rest of them actually fight it.
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>>159698167
She failed at best
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Hibiki a cute. A CUTE!
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>>159698357
Who can throw javelins further, homo Miku or fossil Miku?
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>>159697844
>If Genjuro is so strong why doesn't he go out on the front lines to fight the noise?
He used to want to, when Noise weren't involved. But eventually he just gave up and decided to be the commander all the time.
God damn that time he went up against Fine in S1 was so fucking good.
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>>159692910
This has the same problem as Pokemon, in that they revert all the characters' development to 0 with every new season.
For some reason we can't have a struggle between a competent and emotionally stable force of Gear-users against a new foe; they have to hamfist some drama into the story by having the enemy target (always hitherto unforseen) cracks in the girl's personalities. And Season 4 has done nothing to change this pattern either: I've only watched the first episode but they couldn't have been less subtle about Chris' brewing insecurities about her origins.

It's the same pattern with every single girl, every single season though, and Hibiki gets the worst of it. Despite the draw of her character being her upbeat personality for the duration of seasons 2 and 3 they turned her into a whiny, inept, weak, social retard that got curbstomped in every fight until the finale.
And don't even get me started on how badly they mishandled the resolution of her "daddy's girl" arc. Because Jesus fucking Christ.

I think Symphogear should have ended with Season 2. The writing was flabby to begin with but they just don't have the talent to keep this going.
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>>159698493
He got into the fray in seasons one and two regardless of noise. Hell, he literally saved Hibiki from noise in season one. It's like people didn't even watch it.
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>>159698493
Imagine if Ver didn't have such a tight grasp on his cane.
Imagine him arm wrestling with nephilim arm.
Imagine him arm wrestling with nephilim.
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>>159696402
The guy who plays Strangemeister is probably the only real talent in that movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdserZX7Bns
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>>159698551
>Genjuuro fistfights Nephilim
>arm gets chomped off
>flexes and grows it back
>I saw this in a movie once
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>>159687710
I don't think you understand, anon. Straight men aren't supposed to be attracted to Bikki. You're supposed to go gay for her first.
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>>159698589
You have no idea how much I want this now.
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>>159698509
>And Season 4 has done nothing to change this pattern either
You've overblown all of the points you made and this one especially.
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>>159698589
That's what Armstrong did in MGR
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>>159698578
>Moorhuhn
Is it Yurop time?
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>>159698509
inb4 Zoid crying about how amazing Hibiki's development was and how great topdad is
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>>159698578
>Moorhuhn
Man, that brings back memories
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>>159698589
>Sir, that wasn't a movie. That was Hibiki 10 minutes ago.
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>>159698665
!
>Nana and Aoi want an S1 movie
>it'll be like Nanoha movies where they're in-universe adaptations of the story's events
>the movie commentary track will be 2nd Div/SONG members watching it and talking about it just like nanoha movies
>watching it will give Genjuuro symphogear powers
>that was Nana and Aoi's plan all along
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>>159694093
Anon she's an actual idol and world celebrity, she can make the most questionable fashion choice and nobody will ever bat an eye
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>>159698601
>gay
You cannot be gay for the bikki, you can only be GAR.
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>>159698783
If Genjuro gets gear power, all conflict is over. I would happily watch a season of him just mercilessly smashing everything with no remorse while chanting, and with the girls only being in SoL scenes.
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>>159698829
Well, he probably still can't breathe in space like the gears can, so I guess if they go there he's still shit out of luck.
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>>159698880
>Implying he won't just hold his breath Saitama style
>Implying he won't gain that ability after getting a gear
>Implying he needs oxygen
Take your pick.
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If Carol's alchemy was using her memories for fuel, what are these guys using?
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>>159699585
Sexual fantasies
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>>159699585
human lives?
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>>159695322
>Make HibiMiku Yaoi
NO
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I have a masters in chemistry, am I qualified to be an alchemist?
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>>159699695
No
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>>159699695
You are missing astrology and nuclear physics.
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>>159699695
Well, the theoreticians have the method of alchemical transformation. But if you're an experimental chemist then probably not.
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>>159699695
Are you a cute girl?
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I want to live my face buried in Bikki's butt.
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>>159699794
Stay away
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>>159698378
It has a mask/visor like Mikugear, so she's likely being controlled. Getting her on-side instead of destroying her is probably a good idea.
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>>159699833
>No enemies, only new friends!
Literally garbage.
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>>159699903
You might have missed them, but if you go back and check the first two episodes, there are actually a number of new enemies already.
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>>159699903
>literally every season
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Am I the only one who thinks that Maria is now the "gundam upgrade" Gear instead of Chris? Her miniswords remind me of like 00's quantization rings/Stargazer's rings and her arm canon reminds me of the Sat Ray from X/DX
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>>159699929
Actually enemies, not fodder.

>>159699939
Season one kind of had a reason because Ryouko was originally their ally and friend, and after the reveal she was dead so they couldn't fight her. G had Ver who they never treated as a friend. Oddly enough, he ended up actually saving the world and dying a hero. GX had Carol who they tried to save, and that's where it got bad. Then they confirmed at the Live that there are no enemies, only new friends, and that's when any chance of it being really good again went out the window.
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>>159699990
Maria is homages to Super Robots.
>Mazinkaiser chest sword
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>>159700029
>Actually enemies, not fodder.

Yeah, Symphogear only ever introduces friends, not true Scotsmen.
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>>159689322
That's the implication of what she said. Whether she was just acting like a tough punk (which she had been all season 1) or being truthful is up to the viewer.
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>>159700056
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>>159687710
Kirika needs to be the main character and then everything will be daijoubu.
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>>159689636
Which song is that, anon?

Asking for academic reasons, of course.
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>>159700167
She's only half a character.
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>>159700172
Okitegami
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>>159700167
She's a loser
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>>159700087
>M-Muh logical fallacies
Drink a gallon of bleach.
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>>159700056
eh I know like the attack itself came off a super robot. I mean like behavior wise before they became a tornado, and when they move around. It reminds me of the quantum rings from 00, or the photon gate from Build fighters.
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>>159700279
It's an informal fallacy, not a logical fallacy. Doesn't change how ludicrous it is to complain that a show only ever introduces friends despite the fact three new enemies have appeared, though.
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Consider the following:
Chris>Hibiki>Shirabe>Kirika>Tsubasa>Maria
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>>159700347
>Season isn't over
>Assume they won't be treated as misguided friends in need of saving like everyone else
>Despite what was said at the Live
>Muh fallacies
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>159700167
>S1 X-drive transformation
>[Fine rant] ... Just what are you using?!
>DESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>G Shenxiaojing fight
>I don't want to fight Kiri-chan... Let me go!
>DESSSSSSSSSSS DESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>GX shuttle landing
>Oh god they're sending a missile to shoot us down!
>Dess dess dess... DESS DESS DESS DESS DESSSSSSSSSSS
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So if all the villains get BEFRIENDED every time, who avenges the dead anymore?
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>>159700404
>Shirabe>Kirika
They are one and equal, like yin and yang.
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>>159700404
Chris = Hibiki > Tsubasa > Shirabe = Kirika >>>> Maria
Also this >>159700447
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>>159700447
Shirabe is cuter, and also had a fine woman inside her.
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>>159700441
>all the villains get BEFRIENDED every time
lol
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>>159700511
Just wait for the miniature Carol doll Elf9 will create.
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>>159700404
I considered it and decided you are subjectively wrong.

Hibiki > Shirabe > Chris > Tsubasa > Kirika > Maria > NINJA = OTONA > LAST ACTION HERO = Carol = Elfnein > bridge bunnies > grape noise > bushi noise = banana noise > Mammu = Fine > anime-chan > other lydian girls >>>>>>>>>>>>> kanade
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>>159700538
As long as she recreates all the other dolls too.
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>>159700404
Tsubasa>Maria>Hibiki>Chris>DMJii
Fite me.
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>>159689636
I personally think that song has too much dess.
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>>159686215
Not biblically, look it up.
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>>159700409

Someone woke up on the wrong side of bed today.

In either case, all of that applies equally to Tiki, whose fate this argument started over. If you can hope or expect her to be killed instead of befriended, why can't you for the alchemists?

Also, https://twitter.com/zoid9000/status/884291841943674883

Fallacies aren't some kind of magic "gotcha". They're a way of explaining why your reasoning is flawed in a systematic way.
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>>159700623
>reading fanfiction
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>>159700591
I'm somewhat startled that you have the good sense to put Hibiki in her rightful spot, yet you're reckoning of Kanade's position is so wrong.
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>>159700591
The only correct thing about that is Hibiki's position.
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>>159700634
You're a fucking idiot, try actually watching the Live instead of quoting Zoid's interpretations of interviews. They don't treat the main antagonists like enemies (save Ver) and the series is far worse off for it.
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>>159700591
>Hibiki first
Instantly garbage.
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Consider the following:
Micha>Garie>Leiur>Phara
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>>159700840
Flip it around and it'll be right.
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>>159700697
I, for one, enjoy the UNDERSTANDING attitude taken towards the antagonists and thinks it fits the universe and the story they're trying to tell better.
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>>159700840
I can't even consider that, I was so disappointed by the dolls that I have no taste for them at all.
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>>159700840
Garie > Micha > Phara > Leiur

Fite me.
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fuck you all Maria is great
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>>159700906
Acceptable.
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>>159700840
Acceptable, although I'd put Garie above Micha personally.
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>>159700697
And Carol. And her dolls. And Fine, really, since she was only ever redeemed in death rather than befriended.

So leaving those aside, if you think the show is worse for having Chris or FIS still be alive rather than being killed off despite the fact that their development into teammates was the majority of their character as villains, and removing that would leave them as flat baddies lacking a real arc, I don't think I'm the one who is an idiot. That's doubly true considering that one of Symphogear's main themes is the importance of talking and understanding despite differing language, ideals, or worldview - how would a kill-em-all plot make that work?

But seriously, stop getting so mad at the internet. You're not even talking about Tiki or the alchemists, you're just getting angry at your own assumptions.
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>>159687710

horrible taste
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>>159687710
Looking at Hibiki makes me want to suck dick
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>>159700906
This is objectively correct.
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>>159700873
I'd tell you to eat shit, but you already are, and seem to be enjoying it.

>>159700958
>Carol wasn't treated like a friend that just needed help
Did you actually listen to any of the dialog in GX, or did you watch it muted?
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>>159700958
>Comparing Chris and FIS to Carol
>Thinking that Carol deserved redemption at all after talking to her and understanding her
She was a trash villain, and the way they handled her was equally trash.
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Chris > Tsubasa > Hibiki > DMJii > Miku > Maria
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>>159701115
She was treated that way by the main character, not by the plot. Hibiki acting that way towards everyone was explicitly called out as a flaw that she had to end up correcting. And again, the central theme of the series is communication - that simply cannot be conveyed with unbudging villains who are just there to fight.
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>>159695524
I tought he was doing nothing wrong until he revealed his actual plan.
guy wanted to nuke earth and get a harem, definetley /ourguy/[/spoiler
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>>159701216
>everyone called her out
Again, watch the fucking show. The entire final battle is everyone going along with Hibiki's stupidity and focusing on saving her without even mentioning stopping or punishing her. Literally every character from the gears to the bridge.
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>>159689636
>>159700194
Can you link me up?
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>>159701355
It's track 2 in her GX character CD, surely you can find it yourself anon.
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>>159700511
Carol was so sexy
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>>159687710
Oh hell no. You nigger loving piece of shit don't go around and insult my Waifu with your shittaste.
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>>159692627
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>>159687710
thats not true, she has a sexy back and butt
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>>159690759
>He's now basically the male version of Hibiki
Like father like daughter
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>>159689636
>YABAI DESS (It's already the 3rd verse)
>YABAI DESS (I've used another two lines)
Cute!
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>>159687710
Just wait until she starts talking. You may just throw up in your mouth.
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>>159701457
is that part of her hair clip or is she peering back at the viewer?
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>>159691986
This season we learned that Maria is a lolicon
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I wish I was Biki's dad
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>>159692910
GX was fun
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>>159701340
The final battle is not the whole show. Saving Carol *meant* trying to stop her, which Hibiki failed to realize at the start. Again, if you just want flat, uncommunicative villains who just want to fight, that would undermine Symphogear at a basic level.
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>>159695522
delet this Genjuro is pure
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>>159701428
Sort out your aspect ratio.
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>>159701689
>Just ignore what the final message from literally everyone was, and the ultimate conclusion
The theme was communication, not blind forgiveness. Forgiving Carol and topdad shit all over the show's themes. And when I say themes, I mean actual themes and not Kaneko's "my dad is dead and I'm sad so everything is rainbows now" themes.
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>>159697682
Wh-what do DMJii copy?
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>>159696553
You can hear the semen in her voice.
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>>159701766
They failed to save Carol - forgiveness or punishment never came into it. Not trying to communicate with her and just treating her as a threat to beat up would have been a refutation of both previous seasons.

I don't think anybody likes Topdad or his plotline, but he's hardly one of the series' villains.
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I was cursed to hate yuri but love shows that happen to have yuri, or a very gay fanbase. Yet another one of the universes shitty practical jokes that constitute my existence.
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>>159695475
Will the Geahs do cute things with Carol? I've always wanted to see an irritated Carol reluctantly accepting headpats.
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Why is this thread so awful?
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>>159701866
After they talked to her and found out literally everything, they decided to try to save her. Chris and FIS were manipulate into doing bad things, but they wanted to help people. Carol literally threw a centuries long bitchfit and tried to mercilessly slaughter everyone. She did not deserve help, and yet they tried to help her because she was a cute girl with daddy issues, and Kaneko has completely lost any talent he had.

Topdad is absolutely the greatest villain in the series, because he got away with everything and is treated like a hero.
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>>159701915
What did you expect from a thread that started insulting Bikki in the OP?
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>>159701915
Blame the autistic Hibikifags and Mariafags.
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>>159701792
Shirabe's wheel thing (arguably) comes from V Gundam.

Kirika could be linked to Deathscythe but IMO this one's a bit of a reach.

I'm sure there are more /m/ inspirations but I'm not of a toku guy so I'm drawing a blank.
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>>159701902
What happened anon, did lily flowers kill your family?
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>>159700167
Anyone with that awful a fashion sense is doomed
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>>159701902
>I was cursed to hate yuri
Why? It's so very pure. Do you not like pure things?
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Her hair IS stupid desu
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>>159701976
Please don't post this, it hurts to look at.
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>>159701950
>Not respecting the lost art of driving
Don't you want to be invincible?
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>>159701915
Because anyone who dislikes Symphogear is a subhuman
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>>159701866
>I don't think anybody likes Topdad or his plotline
Literally the best character because he exposes hypocrisy in both the fanbase and the world.
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>>159701902
Yuri is whatever, but yurifags are all mentally ill retards that make everything they touch turn to shit. Unfortunately, they latch on to many good shows.
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>>159701902
Just embrace it.
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>>159702032
>he exposes hypocrisy in both the fanbase and the world.
How?
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>>159701970
>>159701989
>>159702046
I just don't like it. It irritates me. Actually, I don't mind lesbians, yurishit just manages to be really fucking annoying. Almost as bad as fujofaggotry.
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>>159687710
I finally got home and was able to watch it today, jesus this scene made me realize how fucking terrible GX was.
>He doesn't like Hibiki
Woah there Maria faggot, what about being useless elsewhere?
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I honestly felt like the only reason Hibiki treated Carol as nothing more than a "troublesome friend" is solely because she had the body of a little girl.

She could have probably beheaded little kittens and nothing would change. GX was so fucking shit.
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>>159702032
I don't think you know what hypocrisy means.
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>>159701923
Saving and forgiving are two different things. They failed to save her, and so it's pure speculation what form her redemption or punishment might have taken if they had. Regardless, AGAIN again if you want a show where they just say "this person is a bad hombre, let's just kill her without trying to talk it out or getting her to surrender", this is not the show for you, because that is the exact opposite of its central theme.
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>>159700906
Finally a ray of decent taste in the ocean of shit taste that is /a/
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>>159702095
Eh, I think the shuttle rescue was a better season opener than that assault on the Illuminati base, including having the better song.

>>159702102
Except Carol transformed into an old hag, and in the very first season Hibiki pals around with Fine after watching her initiate a moon shard drop.
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>>159702037
I hope you choke to death on some faggot's bikki dikki.
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>>159695414
Uh... I'm fairly certain they can. In my country at least, but your probably talking about Japland.
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>>159697368
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why can't we all get along and post cute dmjii
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>>159702156
Show me a single villain whose motives were made clear to be purely malicious and evil before GX where they prioritized trying to help them instead of stopping them from hurting innocent people. Blind forgiveness and trying to help pure evil pieces of garbage wasn't a thing until GX, stop pretending the show was always idealistic garbage like that.
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>>159689075
>Implying Maria was ever NOT a chad
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>>159702262
Why exactly is she blushing? Is she into DMJii?
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>>159702231
I'd tell you I hope you die, but we both already know that you mentally ill faggots have a crazy high suicide rate, so you'll probably kill yourself anyways.
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>>159702268
Again: they were trying to stop Carol, because saving her required first stopping her.
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>>159702073
>>159702107
If you can't see it you're a braindead retard with no hope of salvation. He has, statistically, caused less damage and death than any other named character in the series, yet he gets shit just because he did some less than good shit. Other characters can wreck the shit out of each other and kill thousands for dumb reasons, that's fine, but he triggers everyone just by being a bit of a dick. Hell, no one even questions if he used to be a better person, or if he needs help getting his life back together. Nope, because he didn't support his family for two years he's worse than Hitler, irredeemable. It absolutely fucking amazes me how this is more important than any other action by any character in the series, and many others. Hell, the way people talk you'd think he's worse than Griffith. I really don't get it, I see why he was a dick and why he needs a slap or something, but all the characters in this series do shitty things. It's not his fault he doesn't have magical gay superpowers or the reincarnated spirit of bruce lee to make up for his faults. He's just a normal guy in a shitty world getting shit on because he's not perfect. But if it has tits and a nice ass it doesn't matter if it causes the death of tons of people. He gets shit on cosmically out of proportion. And I don't get it.
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>>159702264
That can't and won't happen
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>>159702087
Different strokes for different folks anon, but there's really no way around it as long as your taste in chink cartoons stays the same.
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>>159702300
Who isn't into DMJii?
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>>159702315
Watch it and listen to the dialog again. They never once even mentioned stopping her, only saving her. You're an idiot who completely misread the first two seasons as being idealistic bullshit.
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>>159702338
intelligence
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>>159702338
Miku she is Bikkisexual
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>>159702324
>Father who beats and then abandons his innocent child in her time of need, is a scumbag who refuses to help kids, and then tries to mooch off his daughter
>simply didn't support his family for a little while
3/10 is the best I can give you.
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>>159702300
Because Hibiki is a MAN
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>>159702329
I know. I like cute girls and don't care for the pathetic faggots in most other anime. But I can't stand cute girls acting like faggots.
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>>159702268
Show me where they prioritize helping Carol over stopping her
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>>159702376
I'm not talking about dialogue, I'm talking about what they were doing. They wanted to save her, and so they fought her in order to first stop her - unlike Hibike previously, who had wanted to convince her to stop herself without being forced. Because they failed to save her, we don't know what attitude they'd have had towards her forgiveness.
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>>159702432
I mean, at least some of the Symphogays are manly girls acting like faggots, right?
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>>159702444
Literally watch the last two episodes and try listening to the dialog.

>>159702452
>Try to talk to her and reason with her instead of just going for the kill to save thousands of actually innocent people
Those were their actions.
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>>159702508
The only time any of them were in a position to be able to kill her was when she was already beaten.
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>>159702324
>He gets shit on cosmically out of proportion. And I don't get it.
It's not so much about him as a character, rather it's what his introduction into the narrative caused to happen (Hibiki's development reset again).

>>159702508
>I can't actually show helping Carol being made into a higher priority than saving people, do it for me please
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>>159702553
>They simply couldn't
>It had nothing to do with the fact that they weren't even trying
That's why Hibiki was happy they "killed" her in episode 6, right?

>>159702554
>Entire episode is them talking about saving her and likening her to Chris and FIS despite them being nothing alike
>Fine and Ver were never treated this way
>"They were trying to stop her more than anything!"
Idiot.
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>>159702422
He seems to have been a nice guy before, I guess the aliens and psychotic bitches destroying shit broke him. Almost all of the girls have done way worse, what he did was small shit. They get all kinds of advice, forgiveness, and support. That shit just gets glossed over because the show tells you that they're just confused and need protecting. Some guy does some minor petty shit in comparison, the show says he's horrible and doesn't deserve shit. The fans hate him even more.
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This Carol discussion is so fucking stupid. What exactly are you trying to proove here?
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>>159702384
>intelligence
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>>159700404
>>159700491
I agree with the second version
>>159700441
>befriended
Remember when Hibiki's song made Carol cry?
And by cry i mean her insides were obliterated?
Yeah
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>>159702670
>Betray your wife and your only fucking child because you're a cowardly piece of shit
>Small shit
>Worse than being manipulate while trying to actually help people
No
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>>159702707
faceless soldier guys have great taste, DMJii are the sexiest geahs
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>>159702651
You're going to have to prove they held back against her in order to save her rather than taking her down to save the world. Good luck. Until you bring back some proof, just stop posting.
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>>159700605
>too much dess
That's impossible.
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>>159702690
Apparently Symphogear has always been about forgiving inhumane monsters and not stopping them from hurting civilians (as long as they're a cute female).
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>>159702729
Yeah, it's small shit. They can support themselves for a while without dying, the only thing that actually gets hurt in the long run is their feelings. It's not as bad as mass murder, and destruction and all that.
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>>159702752
How about literally everything everyone says. They talk about helping her, not stopping her. Your word doesn't supercede the characters words and actions, or what was confirmed at the Live show. Now show literally anything suggesting they were trying to kill her or stop her as their priority.
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>>159702690
People taking a fanservice yuribait show more seriously than necessary as usual.
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>>159702651
>That's why Hibiki was happy they "killed" her in episode 6, right?

You know that was before her character arc, right? When could they have killed her but didn't, other than at the end?

>Fine and Ver were never treated this way
I'm pretty sure I remember Ver explicitly demanding to be killed in heroic battle rather than be humiliated by being shown mercy and dealt with as any other criminal.
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>>159702785
Are you trolling, or are you just a nigger?
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>this entire thread
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>>159702852
Oh yeah no dude, it's totally better if you kill thousands if you're a cute girl.
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>>159702795
>actions
Such as? Like I said, bring proof or stfu
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>>159702843
How the hell did Hibiki's character arc change her view about Carol at all? When were they shown actually trying to stop hey and not save her. The only one who ever tried to was Chris right before Ver showed up, and even she joined team retard by the end.
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>>159702905
"We're going to save you."
Now show me where they say they're going to stop her. Cite the show or fuck off.
>stfu
You know what, just fuck off.
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>>159697430
More like Womanlet.
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>>159702947
See, you can't even bring one example to back your claim. Now you're just moving the goalpost and asking me to waste my time. It's fine, we all know you're trolling, but maybe try harder next time.
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>>159702907
I'm not going to keep talking you're just going to make me keep reiterating things I've already said.

At first, Hibiki wanted to hanashiaouyo Carol. Her arc lead her to realize that sometimes, you can't resolve things by talking them out, and became willing to overcome her through force. That doesn't mean she doesn't want to save her, but that she's now willing to forcibly stop her in order to save her.

>>159702947
Again, it's about what they *do*. They want to save her, and in order to (try to) save her, they stop her by force.
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I love Aoi!
https://youtu.be/tJ7DjwYt7F8
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>>159702324
Can't forgive him for asking Hibiki to pay for the meal. Pure scum. And then he has the gall to speak of his "pride as a man".
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>>159703081
It's just one meal.
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>>159703058
>Aoi asking Sawashiro on a date
Amazing
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>>159702980
>What the characters are literally saying doesn't matter
You're a fucking retard.

>>159703017
>They were trying to stop her
>Just ignore literally everything they said and listen to my interpretation
You're more deluded than Zoid.
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>>159703102
>Abandons children to safe his own ass
>Tries to make his actions seem justified because he is a pussy
>Makes his daughter pay for a meal
>Tries to take picture of the doomsday device to sell for $ instead of helping people
>Throws the relic to Hibiki
>ALL IS FORGIVEN
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>>159703102
It's the principle. He orders than food knowing he can't pay for it, and expects his estranged and emotionally fragile daughter to pay for it.
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>>159703165
You're ignoring everything they *do*. At what point to they fail to stop her because they want to save her?
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>>159703185
Yeah even Carol pointed out what a fucking pussy he was.
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>>159703185
>>159703186
Yeah yeah, whatever. I know you're just going to keep acting like he's the devil and all, it's a waste of time. Everything you say about him is so emotionally charged too, we're you all raised by single moms or some shit?
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>>159703227
Divorced parents actually
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>>159703208
They were prioritizing trying to talk to her and save her over stopping her, as evidence by literally everything they say. They were never willing to just kill her and stop her. Those were their actions as dictated by the characters themselves. You do not decide what the characters do, the writers do. Provide evidence that shows they were doing something other than what they explicitly said or fuck off.
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>>159703185
Hibiki forgiving him so easily is the only real problem I have with the Daddy arc. I don't have all the other problems with it that some anons do.

>>159703227
>I know you're just going to keep acting like he's the devil and all
I'm not saying that he's the devil. But he is a scumbag and the hate he gets is understandable.

t. Somebody who had possibly the most stable family environment you could imagine.
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>>159703185
We all make mistakes
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Come on guys, we went through this in S1.
Hibiki is all about friendship and Chris and Tsubasa have her back.
it's not going to change.
I believe that this time around the alchemists won't be forgiven though since they don't really fit in with the cast.
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>>159703288
Cagliostro will be forgiven, he'lll become a regular
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>>159703282
And top dad is one such mistake
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>>159703274
>Those were their actions
Which you have yet to show at all. Remember, your posts are worthless if they aren't accompanied by images from the show proving they failed to act.
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>>159703303
I want her to be a bridge bunny.
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>>159703274
>They were prioritizing trying to talk to her and save her over stopping her, as evidence by literally everything they say.
Again, learning the opposite of this is literally Hibiki's character arc. You are conflating saving her with talking to her - Hibiki still wants to save her, but is now willing to save her by force, which is exactly what she tries to do.

>They were never willing to just kill her and stop her.
When were they given an opportunity?
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>People actually defend Topdad

Are you shitting me? What the fuck is happening to these threads?
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>>159703365
Something about sin and casting the first stone anon.
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>>159703365
Shitposters are happening
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>>159703365
It's just one anon.
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>>159703278
Yeah, well, I still don't get it. If the fanbase reaction was just "lol what a dick" I probably wouldn't have given a shit. But they get all triggered by him. Like this guy>>159703365
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>>159703365
That's a price we shall pay for 2 more seasons, retards that didn't even watch the series or zesshoushinai
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>>159703403
People don't like when you defend scumbags.
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>>159703444
He's not that bad.
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>>159703288
>Hibiki is all about friendship
Except for the part where she always tried to stop the evil monsters instead of talking with them.

>>159703324
>Which you have yet to show at all.
Here you go. Now you show me where they were prioritizing stopping her and not helping her. Remember, their words matter, and your head cannon doesn't, because you aren't the writer.
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Fuck the 3 MB limit.
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Just a little experiment, it's for the sake of science. I want to know if any of you are actually gay for the geahs.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13416220
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>>159703365
I think it's being used as a argument because the series is about saving others without caring about what they do.
yeah, people died over those villains from the other arc that they still tried to save, but the point of this is to not add another dead to the list.
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>>159688134
>>159689770
女衒 is essentially an archaic word used to refer to actual trafficking and ownership, no one uses it to refer to prostitution these days. Here when Genjuro talked about looking for children who would be good for symphogears, Chris was expecting that they wanted to buy her because that's what she thinks you do when you want a worker. Whoever pushes this meme just picked the word and took it out of context. The line is こっちでも女衒かよ, the literal translation would be "So you want me to be a slave even here"
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>>159703485
>select all that apply
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>>159703463
He's a terrible father and has a shitty personality/attitude. Very few redeeming qualities.

>>159703485
>implying that there are women on 4chan
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>>159703508
I'm an openminded guy
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>>159703353
>You are conflating saving her with talking to her
>You are conflating saving her with talking to her
>You are conflating saving her with talking to her
>You are conflating saving her with talking to her
No you fucking idiot, watch the show. They literally spell out everything for you, and what you're saying is in direct conflict with the dialog. You are objectively wrong. Kill yourself.
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>>159703466
I'm not wrong though, she goes for the kill against monsters because they can't be reasoned with.
she explains that while trying to help Chris in S1 as well.
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>>159703532
>I'm not wrong though
>You just have to ignore what the character are explicitly saying
You are objectively wrong. Provide actual evidence from the show as I have, and not your incorrect interpretation. I posted literal, unambiguous dialog, you can't do the same.
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>>159703530
Why bother? I just posted webm right above.
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>>159703530
>even posts an image of Chris with guns drawn
No one buys your bullshit, just stop
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>>159703516
He still manned up towards the end so he's probably fine.
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>>159703530
Why are you posting a screenshot that agrees with me? They want to save her, but that doesn't mean talking her down like they were able to with Chris and FIS, it means forcibly stopping her. What you're doing is seeing "save" and reading "talk instead of fight".
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>>159703566
about what?
when she told Chris that they're human so they can talk?
that's a fact though.
just like it's a fact the only reason Hibiki doesn't try to talk with the monsters is because she can't.
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>>159703505
You are reaching pretty hard there, Anon.
奴隷 is the most common word for slave in Japanese. If they went with 女衒 of all possible words it was because there were another connotations they wanted to convey.
And Chris degree of over-reaction and bitterness towards Genjuro doesn't really match with the scenario you are drawing.
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>>159703580
>I posted a webm of Hibiki trying to save Carol
And proved me right, thank you.

>>159703608
Guns that aren't drawn at Carol, yes. What point are you pretending to make? She's trying to save Carol, they all are.

>>159703629
>Why are you posting a screenshot that agrees with me?
>>159703353
>You are conflating saving her with talking to her
>Character literally says they're going to save her
>"But I'm not wrong"
You're objectively wrong.

>>159703630
>about what?
About them doing anything other than trying to save Carol. They weren't trying to stop her and save innocent people, only save her, as evidence by what they literally and explicitly said.
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>>159703505
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A5%B3%E8%A1%92
>女衒(ぜげん)は主に若い女性を買い付け、遊郭などで性風俗関係の仕事を強制的にさせる人身売買の仲介業であり、人買の一種である。歴史は古く古代からこのような職業が存在していたと考えられている。
>性風俗関係の仕事を強制的にさせる
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>>159703707
>They weren't trying to stop her and save innocent people
You should have at least stuck to saying that saving her was a higher priority, because now you've just gone completely off the deep end with your faggotry.
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>>159703707
>And proved me right, thank you.
Everybody knows this is what actually happened. The other guy is being an ass.
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>>159703698
If they wanted to make the connection that Chris a prostitute they would have just gone with ポン引き and been done with it.
>over-reaction and bitterness
Chris was bitter to everyone from being betrayed
>>159703714
Again, archaic. No actual Japanese sites say that Chris was a prostitute or sold into sex work.
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>>159703707
is this guy for real?
and he's replying to everyone like an autist.
no, the geahs just let everyone around be killed while they had a tea with Carol.
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>>159703766
Show me where they actually tried to stop her from hurting innocent people by any means necessary. Show me a single fucking line about protecting people instead of just saving Carol.

>>159703795
>Everybody knows this is what actually happened. The other guy is being an ass.
You know what, I'm probably talking to Zoid.

>>159703815
Yeah, Hibiki was really broken up over those guys Garie killed and the whole world getting decomposed with Alchemy, right?
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>>159703815
That's just his deal. It's just a shame he can't even hide his autism while actually talking about the series (even though he doesn't understand it at all).
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>this thread

Really sad you can only have decent threads when it airs.
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>>159703707
>Character literally says they're going to save her

Again, I never said they didn't want to save her. In fact, I explicitly said that they did want to save her. Several times.

What I said was that in order to save her, they were willing to forcibly stop her rather than allow her to continue, which is what they did. I *know* they want to save her - what they don't try to do post-Hibiki-development is try to talk instead of fight. Wanting to save her isn't the same as not being willing to fight her.
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>>159703858
I hope the next thread is better.
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>>159703815
I might hate this guy with every fiber of my being (yes, I've identified him with his writing style and his reply style) but he's right about the girls trying to save Carol as evidenced by pretty much every encounter with Carol in GX. I've also made webm here >>159703246 and here >>159703467 as proofs but you guys seem to be ignoring them.

Stop being idiots.
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>>159703842
>Show me where they actually tried to stop her from hurting innocent people by any means necessary
I mean, I guess they just let her end the world while asking her nicely to stop. I sure do remember that being how things played out, shitposter-kun.
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>>159703858
there's multiple autists that can't accept being wrong latching on to symphogear threads.
this is going to be a specially painful season.
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>>159703842
>Show me where they actually tried to stop her from hurting innocent people by any means necessary.

Again - when did they have an opportunity to defeat her through "any means necessary" that they gave up because they weren't willing to use it?
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>>159703930
and like everyone is saying, they try to save anyone, yes, even completely genocidal lunatics like Carol and Fine as long as they can talk.
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>>159703875
>Wanting to save her isn't the same as not being willing to fight her.
Wanting to stop her and actually save innocent people is not the same as pussyfooting around with her. Try watching episode 9 where Chris tries to blow her face up. That's what someone prioritizing stopping her looks like.

>>159703935
>I guess they just let her end the world
Yeah, how's the city looking, retard-kun?
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>>159693567
wait who's her father?
I wiped most of GX from memory
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>>159703930

Carol is already defeated in both webms. That's not about not being willing to fight her, that's about what happens after they've fought her. If you expected Hibiki to kill someone who can't fight back, I think you may have misread her character somewhat.
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>>159703987
>Wanting to stop her and actually save innocent people is not the same as pussyfooting around with her.

Again, again, again: when did they "pussyfoot around"? When could they have blown her to bits but didn't?
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>>159703930
>yes, I've identified him with his writing style and his reply style
Actually quoting the show directly and not being willing to eat garbage?

>>159703947
>Again - when did they have an opportunity to defeat her through "any means necessary"
Watch Chris fight her in Episode 9, then watch episode 13.

>>159704020
>who can't fight back
Are we going to pretend that Carol didn't literally nuke the entire fucking city immediately after?

>>159704050
>When could they have blown her to bits but didn't?
What was Hibiki doing right before Carol nuked the city? Was is trying to save her or trying to neutralize her?
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>>159704020
Dude, remember what happened before Carol transformed one last time and came up with Senkin Daurdabla?
>もうやめよう、キャロルちゃん!
This is exactly what Hibiki said to Carol while she had not defeated her at all.
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>>159703987
Surely you mean episode 10. At least watch the show before you try talking about it.

Chris was stopped because DMJii didn't want her to kill Ver, and she nearly brought the entire structure down around them trying to "stop" Carol.
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New thread

>>159704112
>>159704112
>>159704112
>>159704112
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>>159704124
You fucking moron, she shot a missile at Carol's face in episode 9. Can you read, or are you actually this fucking stupid?
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>>159704084
Fuck off with being so aggressive, you fucking autist. You might be right this time around but I'm on your side in this argument. Don't go around attacking people left and right or I might post more of pic related.
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>>159704096
Yes, she asked her to stop. And then when she refused, fought her and forced her to stop. Was Hibiki saying that somehow in place of stopping her by any means?
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>>159704156
Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you're barking up the wrong autist there.
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>>159704156
>You might be right
I know.

>or I might post more of pic related.
Crack shipping? Go nuts.
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>>159704209
Surely there aren't two people in a /u/ thread with crippling autism.
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>>159704179
So what's your point exactly? They were hellbent on saving Carol, on that you're agreeing so on what basis are you having this argument?
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>>159704268
They wanted to save Carol, but they didn't put nonviolence or "talking things out" ahead of stopping her.
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>>159704331
That's why right before she nuked everything, Hibiki was attacking her and not trying to help her, right?
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>>159704331
They actually did at several points. Remember ep 1 and 2's Hibiki fiasco?
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>>159704331
those autists can't understand that just because you say you want to save someone doesn't mean you're not stopping them while doing it.
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>>159704379
Right, except for the part where they didn't stop her and she blew up the city. Try to spin that one.
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>>159704368
Could be misremembering, but wasn't everyone still sparkl'd at that point? Either way I assume it was evacuated, considering all of the buildings the Gears themselves were smashing up. Avoiding potential property damage isn't really their main goal.

>>159704376
Yes, and the entire *point* of those fiascos was that Hibiki was doing it wrong and had to address the flaw in her behavior.
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>>159704433
it's just like when Fine pulled the moon fragment to crash to earth on S1.
sometimes them trying to save the villain ends up with more damage done, it won't stop them from trying though.
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>>159704488
Fine was literally a ghost that they couldn't touch. Hibiki was actively trying to save Carol when Carol blew up the entire fucking city.
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>>159704535
>Fine was a ghost
nope?
she died right after probably because she used up all her power then.
if they had killed her before they could have avoided that but they didn't because they wanted to try and save them up to the bitter end, same happened to Carol.
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>>159704535
>Fine was literally a ghost that they couldn't touch.

Uh... you okay there, mate? Hibiki stops her punch early, allowing her to hookshot the moon. She lightly punches her on the chest right afterwards. If she wanted to kill her, she could have just fine.
>>
>Symphogear has literal Naruto-tier writing where everyone has a change of heart after centuries of being evil because the protagonist had a talk with them and all is forgiven
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>>159704656
I think the biggest difference is that those villains never really have a change of heart and basically use all their power trying to destroy everything.
>>
As a side note, Hibiki turning Fine instead of killing her ended up being the best choice, given that if she hadn't she'd just awaken in someone else and try again. And it's not quite the same, but Carol surviving was what saved Elfnein, an innocent to the entire affair.
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>>159699644
>Their plan is to make the geahs look cooler so that they lust for each other harder and they get more power
Those cunning bastards. That snake was never supposed to be invincible
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>>159705179
Oh, their snakes are invincible alright.
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