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So how exactly are they gonna handle the Heaven's Feel movie trilogy? Where are they gonna leave off at each point?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5sapex_fate-stay-night-heaven-s-feel-film-pt-1-new-pv_tv
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>>159658297
Part I: Ends with Shirou embracing Sakura in the rain.

Part II: Starts with Shirou giving Sakura his blood, followed by the two fucking. Ends with Shinji's death and Dark Sakura's awakening,

Part III: Starts with Dark Sakura capturing Ilya, ends with the True Ending.
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>>159658441
>Part I: Ends with Shirou embracing Sakura in the rain.
My soul will never be ready for those feels
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>>159658297

Well, each movie will be 2.5 hours, so calculate it accordingly. 2.5 hours is around 5 episodes worth, maybe six or seven if they squeeze all the time they can given there are no commercial breaks. So about 15 eps worth for the trilogy.

As they are trying to keep surprises, Sakura being Rider's master is not known yet, so the target they want to go for is that reveal. They will get all the Saber bro moments out of the way here before she gets assimilated. At the school, they will have the reveal where Sakura defies Shinji, burns Shinji's book, goes nuts when he splashes the aphrodisiac earring on her and puts herself in a coma should he the tail end of the movie where Shirou is told to make the decision and they both get tricked by Kotomine. I see them having the hug in the rain at the end or they might save that as the opening to the second movie.

Either way, the second movie will go into day ten and go more into the relationship with Shirou and Sakura, as well as other relationships. The ending could be when Gil gets eaten and Sakura shows up at the doorstep in tatters the morning of the 13th day, or they might squeeze things out for when Shinji goes full retard and tries to rape and blackmail Sakura, then gets killed, which cues her half merger with AM. Closes with either this or her going after Ilya. I hope they make it clear Ilya knew about a lot of this situation but was steadfast about completing the ritual, despite the taint corrupting Sakura. There are even some who read HF that didn't pay attention to this.

The last movie is their chance to show a lot that was vague in HF, but they don't have a lot of time. They should show Ilya and Sakura talking in the Einzbern castle, where she is being forcefully transfigured by AM. I could see them rushing the chase in the woods to save time, but they will have Nine Bullet Revolver of course. They MUST have Archer possessing Shirou and doing things when he blanks out. End as in novel with True End.
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>>159659780
>2.5 hours is around 5 episodes worth
Don't count the OP and ED time. Each anime episode is ~20 minutes with no OP or ED. 2.5 hours would be ~7.5 episodes, resulting in ~22 episodes total with the credits sequences. And since they said they wanted 8 hours, I can see them extending the third movie to 3 hours, for a total of ~24 episodes.
First movie has to end with the hug, since it's pretty much the signature moment of HF.
Second movie should end with Dark Sakura. It's a great cliffhanger.
True End will likely be heavily modified/extended, if UfoUBW is any indication.
I still remain cautiously optimistic about this trilogy. I just hope they do Shirou right this time around.
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They're going to try and make another verbatim recreation of the shit VN and it's going to be awful
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>>159659780
>the second movie will go into day ten and go more into the relationship with Shirou and Sakura.
I hope they fuck like there is no tomorrow
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>>159659780
I kinda wanna see Spark's Liner High get included somehow.
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>>159662843
They can just increase Shirou's projection limit and make it happen after Rider vs Alter. That would work pretty well.
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>>159660889
If they remove all but one of the cooking and taking care of sick Sakura scenes, they can cut down on the content they need to adapt by at least a 1/3.
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>>159658297
Part 1: boring shit
Part 2: Rider
Part 3: edgy boring shit
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>>159662843
>>159662998
What I'm thinking is that after Shirou and Rider's plan succeeds and Shirou has the chance to "Bring [his] arm down" and finish off Saber, he can't bring himself to do it and refuses to kill Saber like in Bad End 40, but instead of going to a Bad End, the fight just continues with Shirou and Saber going one on one since Rider is injured.

Shirou then uses Kanshou and Bakuya's Triple-Linked Crane Wings and his mind overloads like in Sparks Liner High, but then Saber realizes that Kiritsugu implanted Avalon inside Shirou. Saber then gives the last of her mana to activate Avalon's healing power to save Shirou's life.

Shirou holds Saber close, tearfully saying how much he wanted to save her. Saber smiles, says something like "You did save me Shirou", and peacefully dies in Shirou's arms with her soul redeemed in the end.

Shirou then marches on to stop the Greater Grail.

If they did something like that, then it'd be fucking incredible.
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>>159663150

If you acted out the "cooking scenes" one of which is important for the sibling interaction with Rin and Sakura, they would be less than 6 minutes, not much to cut. Same for the "sick Sakura" scenes, which are even less.

Honestly, there was more time spent with Sakura pushing herself to do things, or saying she was fine and wanted to help, than being in bed.
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>>159658297
There won't be any fucking cause TM don't want this in their franchise anymore
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>>159664516
I don't like Sakura, but all the "cooking scenes" complaints about HF come from people that have not actually read the VN.
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>>159663493
"you did save me Shirou"

But that's wrong
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>>159662843
>>159663493
If they did this along with all the other fights and ended with Shirou's fistfight with Kirei, then that'd be the hypest shit ever.
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>>159662843
>>159663493
>the power of friendship
Just fucking anime Sparks Liner High then have it retconned immediately and passed off as the beginnings of Eye of the Mind (true) or have it in an OVA.
It is just plain stupid to do it any other way
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>>159662843
>>159663493
It'll be a BD extra like Sunny Day
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>>159662843
>>159663493
This does sound great but I think Shirou dying is part of the appeal in a way. And I'm not saying that because I hate Shirou or anything, I just think it's great seeing him go all out to the point of destroying his mind, and seeing Saber's reaction afterwards. It also shows how strong Saber Alter is that Shirou had to kill himself just to temporarily disable her.
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>>159658726
>it will never exist another OTP as big and strong as Sakura x Shirou
Oh god, the feelss
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>>159662843
An alternate ending/ova on the BD release. If they can make the good ending for ubw as an ova then they can give us the best damn (((bad))) ending
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>>159658297
When even PV already has shit changed for worse, it is not inspiring.

The fact that they are changing up and altering one of three things I want from this movie is disappointing too. Let's hope they don't decide to "improve" Rin's fight.

CGI truck fight, fucking lol.

WTf is that backalley fight? When the fuck does that happen?

At least choreography is less braindead than what befell UBW. So even if it is nothing like HF it should have some pretty action.

Why is Cu force-grabbing his spear on some rooftop?
Why is CU fighting on a moving poorly made CGI truck in the middle of traffic?
Why is Rider being fought in some backalley with reused KNK assets?

Why does everything look so over the top and overblown? The key element of FSN fights is that they are highly tactical and down to earth, boots on the ground.
Why does everything in that PV defy the main rule of war which is not doing ridiculous shit in public. Nobody should be fighting publically. Nobody should be doing ridiculous shoneny shit in the air in the middle of city.

This is concerning. AT least action will be hopefully better than UBW adaptation.

Why is Cu force-grabbing his spear on some rooftop?
Why is CU fighting on a moving poorly made CGI truck in the middle of traffic?
Why is Rider being fought in some backalley with reused KNK assets?

Why does everything look so over the top and overblown? The key element of FSN fights is that they are highly tactical and down to earth, boots on the ground.
Why does everything in that PV defy the main rule of war which is not doing ridiculous shit in public. Nobody should be fighting publically. Nobody should be doing ridiculous shoneny shit in the air in the middle of city.

This is concerning. AT least action will be hopefully better than UBW adaptation.
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>>159658441
>ends with the True Ending.
what does this mean?
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>>159665887
At least is looks better than the prism shitlia movie
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>>159658297
>Archer does literally nothing other than die
>still gets top billing in the movie poster
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>>159666050
Read the VN.
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>>159666050
>>159666108
I hope we get normal ending as an OVA like with Sunny day, I really like it as an ending but it doesn't really feel satisfying enough on its own so I doubt they'll go with it. I just mainly want to see Sakura as an old woman talking to Rin's grand daughter
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>>159663493
Did Hitler draw this?
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>>159665887
Put your trip on Fai
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>>159666217
In my perfect scenario they could fuse both endings. Basically Rin Sakura etc still gather together in fuyuki like in True, but Shirou is dead and Sakura still is atoning for her actions and all that stuff. End the movies with what basically morphs into a memorial scene.
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>>159665535
Hope we get Mind of Steel
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>>159666108
Doubt it's gonna happen.
>>159666217
so Shirou and Rin ended up having brats together? That's pretty cool.
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>>159666895
Anon...
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>>159666895
Rin only likes old men
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>best shirou scenes are in the bad endings
>won't be animated because they will adapt the good end

it's not fair bros we will never watch mind of steel.
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>>159666967
care to elaborate?
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>>159667126
Literally nothing happens in MoS though.
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>>159658297
someone remind me how rider remains in the world after getting obliterated by saber in the park when shinji was still her master with the book.

I cannot recall the details
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>>159667320
Stuff definitely happens, they just didn't show it as the game was too long already and it would pretty much be another 50h route.
>F/SN Heaven's Feel: Mind of Steel spin-off
>written by Urobutcher
Make it happen
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>>159667196
Shirou falls in love with Kirei in HF. Rin is raped and impregnated by Shinji
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>>159667196
And Emiya Shirou dies.
The standing figure is no different from a machine.
It's programmed to swing the sword, but it's a corpse with no desire to move.
But even without human intelligence...
There are machines that weave many dreams in this world.
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>>159667501
>yorokobe shounen you're going to win the war
>probably gets fucked by Archer or Berserker the moment he steps out of the church
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>>159660889
Pretty sure the director's not an idiot and will actually let Nasu rewrite it so that HF can stand on its own
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>>159665887
Long, bad pasta aside I agree ufotable's Fate adaptations are overrated but they are good enough.
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>>159667409
Because this is bothering me and I dont feel like looking through more videos of heaven's feel playthroughs, here's the moment I'm talking about at 28:05

https://youtu.be/UE8cE-alIPM?list=PLv9YlFdIa6bcw94WLQrA8uC1LwMY-u_UM&t=1686

Can someone reminds me how rider came back?
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>>159667743
You're okay with Cu fighting Hassan on a truck?
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>>159665276
It works since it addresses Avalon's healing abilities you dumbass. This is something that's been established since the VN originally came out.
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>>159665887
>The key element of FSN fights is that they are highly tactical and down to earth
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>>159667608
stop. take your NTR away.
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>>159667788
Not him but as long as they include the lake scene afterwards and still shows Hassan throwing dirks then it's fine
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>>159665887
If you're gonna shitpost, try not to make your post so tl;dr next time.
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The real question is when the fuck are they going to finish the trilogy.
2025? Fucking hell.
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>>159667788
>Cu fighting Hassan on a truck

This bothered the fucking shit out of me
>GUYS REMEMBER, HIDE YOUR FIGHTS
>WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW OF THIS

meanwhile at ufo
>hey guys lets completely disregard the source material and make this as chuuni as fucking possible to appeal to all these fucking secondaries that won't watch our movie if we keep it true to the known and loved VN because fuck the source material amirite?
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>>159667813
Read the VN. Fights in the source material were portrayed more of a split-second mind game between characters than something flashy. Ufotable should have tried to adapt the tactical aspect, instead didn't bother and just made shitty explosion fests. Even as spectacle they don't work because the choreography and CGI look like shit.
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I just want them to do the Kotomine co-op, Kotomine absolutely and utterly fucking up Zouken, and Kotomine ending fistight justice.
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>>159667788
It's stupid and over the top, but I don't think it's absolutely adaptation ruining, no. I think it definitely shouldn't be there, but we don't know how long the sequence is. If it's just a brief stage transition, I can say "okay that was stupid but fine". If it's a couple of minutes of the fight, then yeah, that's a pretty big problem, but it's not film ruining.
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fuck ufo fights

>flashy twirling of weapons
>cling clang clong
>"M-MASAKA"
>no sense of danger whatsoever because all theyre doing is swinging their weapons around not even trying to hit each other
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>>159667907
>Read the VN.
This can't be your go-to answer for any criticism towards Fate, especially when the fight scenes are still bad. If you want people to actually see how competent Nasu can be with fight scenes, point them towards Mahoyo. Shit's lit.
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>>159667905
>making fight scenes 20% more chuuni then they already are is completely disregarding source material
Hmmm
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>>159668026
Nobody said they're good or mentioned anything about quality. Go shill your otome game somewhere else.
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>>159668026
Does Mahoyo have a translation now?
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>>159668033
Yes changing the scene to truck disregards both the rules of the war and Hassan's fighting style, as well as looking fucking stupid and over the top compared to the creepy atmosphere of the temple in the VN.
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>>159668033
Yes, it is.

>let's make them fight in public because it looks cool even though one of the biggest points they try to get across in the VN is to not fight in public

I consider that disregarding the source material. Hell, they drive this point so hard into the mind of the reader that the whole reason saber fought rider on the rooftop is to not be seen.

Now here comes ufo "HEY GUYS LETS MAKE THEM FIGHT ON A TRUCK :DDDDDD"
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>>159667809
At the expense of making the fight shit because the entire appeal of Sparks Liner High is Shirou becoming a husk
>o but you could have withstood archers full power all along because you had avalon!
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>>159667907
That's definitely not true in most of the fights. It is true for anything False Assassin is involved in, yes, and most of Cu's fights, but sure as hell not most fights. Anything with Caster, Rider, or Berserker is pretty crazy, with Rider and Berserker both actively breaking the "keep things hidden" rules in their fights anyway.

You think people somehow managed to miss the destruction of the building in the last Saber/Rider fight in Fate? Or the graveyard/street Berserker fights? Archer still fires Caladbog as essentially a tactical mininuke in the UBW route, it's not much different from Ufotable's adaptation.
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>>159667784
SOMEONE FUCKING HELP ME REMEMBER
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>>159668125
Nigger I already read the VN. I'll only watch the movies to see flashy fights and Shirou being based.
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>>159668210
>le invisible air can kill berserker xD isn't Saber great - ufotable
Good job using one of the worst adapted fights in UBW anime as your example.
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>>159668210
Seeing the aftermath of what appears to be explosions isn't nearly the same thing as watching two obviously inhuman beings fighting each other to the death at impossible speeds on top of a fucking truck.
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>tfw Unlimited Blade Works is still my favourite route because I'm a moralfag
My boi Shirou has to save everyone. Mind of steel a best
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>>159666097
Same goes for Lancer but at least Archer has the whole arm thing going for him.
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>tfw be caster in Heaven's feel
>get fucking destroyed before even getting to do anything
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>>159666097
He saves Shirou and gives him super projection though
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>>159668291
I didn't even mention that sequence lmao you're right that bit is stupid but I wasn't defending the whole fight
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>>159668489
He also gives him super cancer.
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>>159668420
>tfw be assassin in Heaven's feel
>get used as a catalyst to summon the real assassin
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>>159668329
Like I've said already, we don't know how long that hit lasts. It might just be a stage transition. You're right though, if it's anything longer than like 30 seconds it is stupid and immersion shattering.
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from all the routes to make a movie, they had to choose the shittiest one. Literally the entire story becomes revolved and obsessed over sakura. And shirou gets fucked one way or another.

This is why Rin's route is the best.
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>>159668512
sword cancer*
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>Only scene I really care to see animated is pic realted
>Have been waiting since I read the VN
>tfw will probably have to wait some years until we ge it
They should have gone for tv anime or just one 10 hours long movie.
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>>159668555
But Rin's route got a movie too :^)
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>>159668523
>be assassin in any route
>be the most interesting character in terms of uniqueness for this kind of setting
>never get more than two fight scenes and your entire personality is later turned into "generic muh honor fight man"
I'm still mad, Nasu. 13 years and I'm still mad at this wasted character.
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>>159668247
>>159667784
Doesn't the book just burn because it's shit and she returns to spirit form?
Or maybe they resummoned her?
I may give it a reread to find out but after I'm done fapping
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>>159668570
>Three movies until the best scene in the entire VN

It hurts
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>>159668604
what?! wasnt unlimited blade works a series?

I think I am getting confused, could you explain to me please?
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>>159668680
Deen made a shitty film a few years before Ufo started adapting.
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They never animated Kuzuki having sex with Caster in front of Buddha or atleast hinted at it?
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>>159668680
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>>159668675
>>159668570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u_QQKVZKXE
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>>159668767
This movie makes me appreciate Ufotable's UBW much more. Although it's still not very good though
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>>159668555
I think this route fails in comparison to the other two because of the opposite.
Halfway Ilya becomes the main girl and steals the best scenes from Sakura, then when Sakura returns to the main girl spot Ilya gets discarded for it and leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth since she related way better with Shirou in that route whereas Sakura was a crying onahole of drama during 90% of her interaction with Shirou in that route.
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>>159668767
>>159669122
what? what was the name of this movie? and what was it about?

>>159669163
I dont like sakura to be honest and this route seems pretty fucked up as well. But it is a possible route and not necessarily the defenitive one so that at least makes it better.
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>>159669163
HF has some good fights but suffers from Shirou being unlikable emo who is okay with his waifu murdering dozens of people every day for no clear explained reason other than that they have sex everyday and he was pissed off that she is no longer a virgin after Kirei told him that(and I know that sounds rude but the story literally lingers longer on that than on portraying Shirou shifting away from his ideals or explaining why Sakura suddenly matter so much to him). Now don't get me wrong - HF is awesome in terms of fights(and has some great character moments) but its ridden with filler scenes, Sakura literally is a non-character plot device (that gets an enjoyable and very psychological character journey which the True Ending literally resets and whitewashes away for no reason other than happy ending) and the True end is the literal definition of asspull that magically fixes any consequences the story had. The flashback arc in prillya basically takes what works in HF and removes all the awful contrived nonsense and cooking scenes. It portrays Shirou who went through similar things to HF Shirou but still remains interesting and understandable. It portrays Sakura and Shirou actually having a bond beyond sex and Sakura having actual inner conflict. And the reason why Shirou sheds away his ideals is far less rushed and far more grounded than what happens in HF because the narrative actually focuses on that bond - you see his conflict grow, you see him warm up to having a sister, you see his conflict with what Kiritsugu represents, you see him slowly lose everything he has till only one thing remains, etc. AND there's no magical fix-it-all at the end of an arc.
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>>159669341
>what? what was the name of this movie?
Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works
>and what was it about?
It was UBW badly adapted by DEEN in 2010, the only saving grace is the Archer vs Shirou fight.
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>>159669341
>This new
Google it faggot come on.
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When is the first movie coming out in Japan? There'll be some showings in Germany but I might able to see it sooner if it's up by winterket.
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>>159669380
>for no clear explained reason other than that they have sex everyday

Men have burned entire countries to the ground for pussy.
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>>159669509

October 14, boya.
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>>159668347
I like it because it was nice to see Shirou become a competent badass instead of a pants-shitter like in Fate or a radiation poisoning victim mutant like in HF.
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>There'll be some showings in Germany but I might able to see it sooner if it's up by winterket.
>There'll be some showings in Germany
>Germany
KRAUTLAND IS GETTING THIS?? When I'm here until next April dammit!
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>>159669380
Kotomine is the real hero of HF
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>>159669877
Dr. Kotomine was such a shock
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>>159668247

This is why they really need to be as clear as possible in the movie.

Rider has independent action. Remember how Archer was still alive with no master in UBW after getting pincushioned by Gil to come back later? Same deal.

Zouken burned his book, then she went spirit form and got out of dodge, so then she was attached to Sakura again, and as you saw when she got cut down by Archer in the school later on, healed up, then went to Shirou and gave him the Tohsaka's anus dream for more mana. You notice Sakura is feverish after Rider is "killed" right? That is where the mana came from.

Shinji lies to Sakura about needing another book for protection, and she makes it for him.
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>>159668645
Kojirou wasn't wasted. He gets the return that you desired, in Grand Order. Not even through the original writing - through sheer memetic power, he willed himself into becoming a regend.
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HA anime afterwards, right?
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>>159669436
so Ufotable ended up doing an entire series about it with kickass animation and pretty amazing fight scenes ehh? Well I'll say that's a win win.

Still HF for 3 movies? that seems way too fucking much IMO.
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>>159670758
Not happening, stop asking.
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>>159669380

Your pasta is stale, man. Lemme lay some facts here.

Shirou said multiple times during the route why Sakura meant so much to him. They showed that in Fate and UBW as well that Sakura and Taiga were his family, and you already know he was willing to get his arm chopped off and let Caster have Saber for Taiga.

It's like you blocked off several points about Shirou's character and only left the parts you self-inserts into.

Morever, he didn't let Sakura kill people, every day he tried to find an answer to save everyone, and if he was ever emotional, it was for a good reason.

Hell, most who think that killing Sakura was the best solution have just mental blocked the parts where the evil mummy himself says the mud was held back as well as it was, primarily because Sakura had love and hope in her heart. His plan was to drive Sakura to despair through trolling to have her merge with Avenger, and unfortunately, Rin didn't really help in preventing that.

You want to make the case about moral obligation, but forget how easy things would have been to solve if Rin had completed her investigation on the cavern (yes, she says she has a map of tj cavern and surmises the Shadow to be a malfunction of the grail system)and not falling for Kirei's blatant lies, or if Ilya wasn't so indoctrinated to the Einzbern's to complete the ritual at any cost, then the Shadow issue would have been dealt with as early as day 7.
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>>159670795
Why are you still posting, fuck off.
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>>159669877
Rejoice SHIROU EMIYA!
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>>159670798
>third movies come out
>butthurt flows like rivers as they choose to animate the Normal Ending
>one year passes
>announce anime so the "true story of the Holy Grail War can be told"
>season 2 rolls around, season 1 ended with Illya and Shirou in the park
>Chooses to persist on being a superhero
>Season 2: Mind of Steel
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>>159670802
I'm not reading most of your post because I can't imagine that I should have any reason to care about shipper shit, but

>You want to make the case about moral obligation, but forget how easy things would have been to solve if
The correct answer is not, in any part, what you wrote thereafter. The correct end to the sentence is "... Illya told them the whole truth as soon as possible instead of when it was convenient for the plot."
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>>159670945
That'd be p cool
I think that might be the first Fate-related product which I'd actually purchase
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>>159669163
>Sakura was a crying onahole of drama during 90% of her interaction with Shirou in that route.

So you ignored every scene, if which there are many, where she stands up for Shirou, asks if there is anything she can do to help, or blatantly ignores her soul being ripped asunder to make every else feel better? Or that Ilya until very late in the game, kept critical information about the grail that would have helped immensely?

You're an asshole sir, take your leave.
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>>159670878
fuck you.

sakura is worst girl.
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>>159669380
>The flashback arc in prillya basically takes what works in HF and removes all the awful contrived nonsense and cooking scenes
This. 3rei is basically what the planned Illya route would have been, and no surprise it's better than HF.
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>>159670960

That wasn't shipper shit, that was mentioning things mentioned not only in this route, but other routes. What does saying someone is family to someone else have to do with shipping?

And that stuff about the maps and Rin's deductions about the Shadow being an anomaly of the Grail was in there. Even before Sakura's reveal as a master.
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>>159670932
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>>159671324

Kirei is a decent character, but I feel he just appeals to the trolls of the fanbase that think a little too highly of themselves. The guy just trolls and manipulates kids whose parents made them blissfully ignorant of the real goings on of the ritual. Not exactly a chessmaster's accomplishment.

Like, Rin never questions him in any significant way when he blatantly lies about his crest, despite having reservations about him and obviously mistrusting him.

That was why Shirou running full sprint on day 12 of the route after pulling Kotomine's BS together was great for two reasons. One, Shirou punching the dude straight in the face, even if I would have preferred a sock to the nuts. And two, he told Kirei he talks too much, and to get to the point. That was a real treat.
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>>159668176
Shirou becoming a husk in SLH is a plot hole since it begs the question why Avalon didn't fix that. Saber was still alive and right fucking in front of Shirou.
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>>159671940
Well it's not like it was a matter of his body being physically damaged so I guess avalon can't heal it. Also avalon doesn't revive him from death, there are plenty of bad endings where he dies with Saber near him.
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>>159671087
>You're an asshole sir, take your leave.
sakura faggs need to stop and realise their waifu only brings misery and tragedy.
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>>159671940

It was because he sworded until his mind broke and he became a vegetable. You could heal him all you want, but his mind was gone.
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>>159671735
He's just really entertaining with his deadpan snark and ironic holier-than-thou attitude.
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>>159672114
>>159672240
His brain was damaged. His brain is part of his body. Avalon should be able to fucking fix that.
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>>159672386
Not any of the previous anons but I'm just gonna nip this right in the bud and remind you all that Avalon only works if he has a magical link with Saber or is at least near her.
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>>159672480
And Saber WAS near Shirou in Sparks Liner High.
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>>159672512
For like what? 10 minutes? Avalon doesn't heal him to max instantly, it prioritizes easy to fix wounds first like flesh wounds, then works on fixing bones. I'm sure something as complicated as the nervous system comes last on that list.
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>>159672512
But she wasn't his servant anymore and was corrupted by the Shadow.
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>>159672386
Presumably his brain is still in tact, it's just not working correctly.
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>>159672114
It's made explicit in Zero that the only thing which Avalon is supposed to be unable to heal is physical destruction of the brain. Yes, Zero was made after the fact, but that shouldn't change the nature of Avalon itself.
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>>159672779
see
>>159672606
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>>159672606
Sure it may take a while, but the point is that it's possible.
>>159672613
Saber doesn't have to be his Servant for it to work. Irisviel wasn't Saber's Master and Avalon was still able to heal her when she got stabbed by Kirei.
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>>159673319
Zero is not canon.
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>>159672779
Not exactly. Kirei had no clue that Kiritsugu was using Avalon, and he had no info on Avalon. He just came up with the idea of destroying Kerry's brain on the fly. Whether that would've worked depends on the severity of the cranial trauma. If it paralyzed Kerry but didn't kill him, Avalon could heal that. If his brain was completely destroyed along with his head, killing him in the process, then obviously it wouldn't work.
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>>159673374
Fuck off.
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>>159673768
Then what are Fatefags and HAfags?
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>>159668071
Good news: Yes.
Bad news:You gotta know French
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>>159673843
Waifufags, but tame and generally easy-going.
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>>159672613
See >>159673319

Also, just because Saber was corrupted it doesn't mean it'd have adverse effects on Avalon's healing powers.
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>>159667951
Was Zouken really evil?
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>>159675266
Not originally, but his experimentation with dark magic turned him into a monster. He was fine at first, but became evil. Kirei was just born evil.
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Fate>HF>UBW

Saber>Illya>>Sakura>Rin
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>>159675794
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>>159675838
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>>159675881
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>>159675794
>>159675838
>>159675881
>>159675929
Why is it that Taiga and Ilya are such fucking masters of the bantz?
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>>159675369
Half correct.

Carnival Phantasm > HF > Zero > Fate >= UBW > HA
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I literally could not give less of a shit about Shirou, Rin, wormslut, or any other fucking kid, I just want to see the servants, Kirei, etc. I give even less of a fuck about their teenage romance bullshit and waifufags throwing shit at eachother.

Fuck.
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I would kill for Mind Of Steel, but it's not going to happen.
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>>159676337
Go watch something else then faggot.
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>>159676337
fucking F/Z fags
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>>159676661
go to jail
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>>159675881
>>159675929
Even Ilya knows Heaven's Feel is the true finale.
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The first movie will be Sakura and Shirou cooking for 2.5 hours.
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Spin-off of loli Rin and Sakura in a timeline where Sakura isn't sent to the worms when???
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>>159677198
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>>159677198
Sounds boring but not having to hear her say Sempai every five minutes would make it worth it.
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>>159676448
What the fuck is this?
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>>159677477
Angry Manjew.
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>>159677438
It would be "Onee-chan" instead and I can totally get on board with that.
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>>159677477
Delusional Wakame.
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>>159677477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ApQrCn_AY
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>>159677477
Lotsa spaghetti.
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>>159677752
>Prisma Illya

What the fuck? What is this shit even about anymore? I stopped watching after season 1.
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>>159677902
It gets worse with each volume so you probably made the right decision.
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Aren't these people sick and tired of voicing the same characters for more than 10 years, I think, now?
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>>159678377
It's a paycheck for most of them. I doubt they care.
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>>159678377
15 years
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>>159677752
>prism Illya
>Shirou hijacked it anyway
this meme has gone stale at this point
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>>159678377
Kirei is probably Jouji's favorite role ever, he celebrates his birthday every year and roleplays as him on twitter
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>>159677027
>>159677014
worm faggs need to stop.
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>>159662998
I hope this happens. Have Rider not show up at first but pop in to save the day and scoop up Shirou on Bellerephon.
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>>159679694
No.
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>>159667196
Shirou dies, Sakura waits for him every day and finally meets him again as an old lady after death.

Rin marries and has a family. Sakura trains Rin's granddaughter, they have a scene before she finally passes away.
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>>159668570
Get in line. I'l have to wait several more years, if ever, to see pic related in animation.
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>>159677198
Apocrypha.
FGO, though who knows if they survived 2004 Fuyuki.
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>>159680185
>years
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>>159679871
This sounds god awful. What a sorry outcome.

I prefer it where Rin and Shirou go to england and raise a family of next gen badasses, With Saber as their guardian.

Sakura its pure sorrow.
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>>159681116
You're getting trolled, anon.
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>>159681116
That's the UBW good end, dummy.
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>>159681116
It's a very fitting ending for the whole route. A realistic outcome for the sacrifices Shirou made.
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>>159681567
No it isn't. It completely fails to achieve any of his or Rin's objectives. Illya's relationship with Shirou and character development results in nothing.
Their sacrifices manage to save the world, but they obtain nothing on a personal level, and Shirou's change to realistic ideals is presented as non-viable.
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>>159677198
Someone post that kawaii vanilla non-h doujin where loli Rin and Sakura summon Archer and he becomes their live-in babysitter.
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>>159674848

The issue here is that agaij, we have instances where UBW going haywire circumvented Avalon and Shirou died. The swordification is an extreme example of that, because it's killing him to heal wounds once it's going out of control, and it's left him a vegetable now.

Plus damage to the brain is serious shit, people become different people after some injuries. At best you might cause retardation because UBW and Avalon are trying to "fix" him. It worked with Iri because all it was doing was mending wounds she could be treated for, brain death usually causes death very quickly. Even moreso if Archer's UBW is causing trauma in his body at the same time.

To save him at this point, you'd likely need to (and quick, like within the next minute) cut off Archer's arm to prevent more UBW fuckery, bring him to Sakura, and somehow make it so he can survive getting the blackening like she has, because she was able to live after Gil cut her head clean off.

But Sakura wouldn't want that, whatever people think of her, and neither would Shirou. Plus if you do this he will be merged with AM, so Rule Breaker in themselves might be impossible if he is soaked in taint.
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>>159682064
what's the name of that 4chna related website that hosts all the doujins?
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>>159682249

No need. Here:

https://exhentai.org/g/89982/26b00ef67f/
https://exhentai.org/g/89985/86daa55cd6/

When I got to the part about loli Sakura asking if she was an unwanted child, and Archer hugging her, I choked the up when I imagined our Zero's loli Sakura saying it to Tokiomi. Broke my heart.
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>>159681892
Maybe because Heavens Feel isn't about Rin and because Sakura is Shirou's love interest in this one.
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>>159658297
I don't care how this movie is done, as long as I get to see Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya Illya!!!
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>>159682459
Sakura's life in normal is a waste.
Shirou is just as important if not more, and he also completely fails.
Illya is more imporant than Rin in HF, yet her character goes nowhere with normal.
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>>159682075
It's a conundrum indeed.
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>>159670945

I will order this shit straight from the source. I am sure we will get something like this very soon.
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>sex
why do you dummies deluded yourself like this? You're getting magical dolphins and you're going to like it
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>>159682884
Probably won't even get that. It will be blood sucking, vampire Sakura. The worst sex replacement of them all.
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>>159682585
>Sakura's life in normal is a waste.

Not entirely. People called her a "crazy cat lady" but she says in the end she eventually starts to bear being able to go out in public again after awhile, and tries to retrain herself in magecraft, which she uses when she becomes the sensei for Rin's granddaughter.

But there was no way she was healing when she didn't have any therapy, girl has decades of trauma and Rin can't really help with that with her personality.

She works out in True because Shirou helps, but she is also pushing herself as guardian of the city in the cleanup and restoration efforts, in order to keep herself from wallowing in her own thoughts.

So in one end, she is functional, but not "fixed". And in True, she is healing but still pretty much doing her own therapy.

So in essence, she could use a good therapist, but a therapist would need to know everything, which would mean letting a normal know about magecraft.
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>>159682431
>sad panda
ughh

what was the other site? g-doujin or something along those lines? I used to dig a bunch of doujin fap fuel from there back in the day.

Also anyone knows where I could get 2nd blu ray season of unlimited blade works? ever since nyaa's dead it's been dreadful. And no, they dont sell the fucking blu rays here.
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>>159658297
>Hassan in that art.
Anyone else really looking forward to seeing him animated?
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>>159683261
Are you retarded?
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>>159658297
I'm not looking forward to seeing Saber suffering but I'm looking forward to seeing Alter in glorious Ufo style.

Strange
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>>159683402
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>>159683088
She only has 1 decade of trauma and she got out of it pretty young. There's plenty of time for her to forgot the fact that she didn't is a testament on how weak she truly is.
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>>159683653
Dumb Medea poster.
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>>159670723
>Ignore star bullshit and try to use original cast in GO
>End up using spooky googly arm man instead of Kojirou when I need an assassin
kek
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>>159683703
He is superior after all.
I'm mad I haven't been able to roll him.
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>>159683703
>>159683853
Fuck off.
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>>159676750
>There will never be a timeline where Tokiomi,Kirei, and Kerry get to see their children marry basically the opposite of their ideal partner for them.
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>>159678377
>Being sick and tired of a steady paycheck and fan adoration when most VAs struggle to get a quarter of either.
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>>159683663

Brah, it's common for people who don't forget a couple year's worth of much less terrible trauma their whole lives.

If someone who was raised, since they were four to be forced to go into a basement of rotting corpses and lay among them for over a decade as some mummy experimented on them, they'd be pretty fucked up.

Rin puked her guts out and even Archer was uncomfortable being down there for 5 minutes, let alone eleven years.
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>>159684084
What does Caren have to do with this?
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>>159683987
Don't be mean anon.
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>>159684084

You kidding? I forgot where I read it, but Tokiomi wanted a harem when he was younger. He'd be jealous as fuck on the inside of Shirou, who got a Reality Marble for free while he was born mediocre, and has the nerve to have his daughters in his hand without even trying.

He'd act like an indignant pap (which is funny in Sakura's case), but he would be green with envy.
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