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Why is Negi's taste so shit again?
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Scans fucking where?
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I thought this manga was supposed to be about Eva getting her happy ending. What the fuck happened
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>>159654368

Akamatsu is a hack
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>>159654001
>the best woman in the universe
So, Nodoka?
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>>159654187
Just google it, dude.
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>>159654001
We're watching the good end timeline, so we know she ends up a hikki. I wonder what happened to her in the Holder/Asuna sleeps timeline.
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>>159654569

we already saw that, she and Chachamaru are working at Negis side, doesn't mean she won but it sure seems like it.
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dump it faggot
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She's right to reject him because he's a kid, but she could have at least made it clear first that she did in fact have the same feelings for him instead of just trailing off.
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>>159654702

she wanted to give him time to grow up, instead of keeping him tied to some sort of promise.
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>>159654702
If she did that, Negi would just keep pursuing her. He's a shonen hero after all.
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>>159654368
Well, she will win the Negibowl.
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Dump the chapter
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>>159654669
>>159655024
Fine you fucker
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>>159655269
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>>159655626
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>>159654368
Negima's true ending first, then harem shenanigans then Eva's good end.
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>>159655655
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>>159655687
dropped
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>>159655721
Don't worry, it gets better.
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>>159655687
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>>159655776
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>Try again in five years
Akamatsu is truly a master troll.
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>>159655791
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>>159655776
Negi is so pure!
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>>159655818
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what the fuck happened to this manga
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>>159655841
>>159654001
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why is negi so pure
how dare Chisame rejected best boy
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Sigh...Years ago I'd finally gotten over how Negima had ended with no resolution. I read a bit of UQ Holder and immediately realized it was garbage, and was content with moving on from Negima.

Now, the one time a month I go on /a/, I just happen to come as this shit is posted and find out goddamn Chisame won the Negi Bowl. All that anger I buried is fucking bursting out now.

Ah well, at least it's not someone utter trash like Makie.
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Nodokafags BTFO
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>>159655269
Yue pretty much was the reason Nodoka lost when you think about it. Nodoka was the obvious winner candidate during the first half, but when Yue revealed her feelings, Nodoka had to be considerate of her, which led to them pretty much turning into an irrelevant meme duo.
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>>159655900
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>>159656003
Dropped.
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>>159656003
i feel bad about the fact i forgot everyones names
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>>159655973
>Nodoka was the obvious winner candidate
Keep thinking that.
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>>159656040
I doubt even Akamatsu remembers. That's the issue with this type of huge-ass casts. A bunch of them will end up drawing the short-straw and never any focus, much less a character arc.
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>>159656042
She was the one with the most romantic development by far except maybe Asuna, and Asuna ended up being his relative.
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>>159656040
That's what happens when a manga ends same thing with sayonara zetsubou sensei, same with medaka box
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>>159656003
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>>159656040
kek
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>>159655687
Why'd he choose the cam whore?
Wasn't the thirsty blonde rich girl better, does he just like the challenge?
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>>159656105
>>159656088
Ayaka is the best.
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>>159656088
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>>159655973
>>159656105
AUTHOR OF LOVE HINA
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>>159656156
>>159656088
>>159656003
What a bunch of spiteful and jealous cunts.
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>>159656105
He probably chose the least likely girl to win but was still somewhat popular because Akamatsu a shit
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CHISAME A BEST
A
BEST
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>>159656105
The rest of the chapter shows that he prefers mature girls. Not these hysteric ones.
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>>159656156
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>>159655969
Not really. He turned her down because he liked Chisame, but since she turned him down, Nodoka stands a chance again. Of course, she probably understands that he's not worthy of her now that he's revealed his shit taste. Negi lost the Nodokabowl, not the other way around.
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>>159656156
All ded
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>not finding Eva happiness
Fuck you, Negi.
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One thing I didn't like about Akamatsu's faces is that sometimes I can't tell if they're surprised, happy, embarassed or angry. It's just that one big-mouthed expression. If there wasn't any text with the page, I'll probably miss the mood of the scene.
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>>159656244
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did anyone in his class not want negi? feel like it was mana and maybe chao
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Don't stop ;_;
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>>159656504
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>>159656504
Asuna a best
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>>159656352
Touta is us man
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>>159656393
More than half of the class are just messing with him and don't really like him romantically. Because he's a kid.
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>>159656286
>Nodoka stands a chance again
Haha, no.
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>>159656504
Asuna saves the day
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>>159656393
The three sluts, the swimmer, Mana, the priest; Chao and the cook.
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>>159656504
>>159656540
Based. Fuck all those thirsty whores.
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>>159656747
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I thought Negi fucked Maki in the end of Negima?

Makes sense Eva wouldn't win. She got zoned hard by assuming the role as Negi's teacher. Moreover, she like Nagi's non-Rankan friends all kept using Negi as a proxy for Nagi.

All the kinky stuff was just petting. There was no serious passion behind it.

Sorry it didn't work out, Eva..
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>>159656770
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Chisame is just Naru with glasses.

Naru always wins.
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>>159656829
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>>159656858
>I'll become a priest
Kek
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>>159656858
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>>159656381
>Negi surrounded by onee-sans
>Touta surrounded by lolis
Whats the next generation going to be?
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>>159656888
New arc?
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>>159656818
>I thought Negi fucked Maki in the end of Negima?
What? No.
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>>159656888
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>>159656919
>16
>Looks like 30
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>>159656919
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>>159656105
Because of the Magic World arc when she became the snarky main companion and was also part of major changes in his life
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>>159656985
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>>159656985
So this is how Akamatsu going to tell that abridged last battle to be ending we got years ago.
Talk about dragging the UQ plot just to expand a non in-timeline related events.

Filler arc next I guess.
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>>159656829
im gonna bet $5 the last panel is actually a foreshadowing into future events.
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>>159656985
Kotaro is still relevant? Color me surprised.
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>>159657052
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>>159656381
I'm still pissed off that the original manga ended when it did. It had so much to offer. We didn't even get a story arcs for the cheer trio. Madoka was sexy and Kakizaki hinted some stuff in the manga. Also, Yuuna okay with Negi copping a feel?
The fucking potential all wasted coz of this long wait.
>>159656393
From memory, Ayaka, Makie, Chachamaru, Nodoka, Yue had really serious thoughts about Negi.
Ako had a thing for grown up Negi. Not really sure how that went for her.
From this chapter, it's shown that Ku Fei also wanted Negi.
Chisame also wants Negi, but not enough to chain him to her at his age.
The rest of the class ranges from fling to friendship. You wouldn't leave Negi alone with Misa for sure.

The only ones I think that Negi never got to really like him on any level of "want" basis was Kazumi, Asuna, Chizuru, Natsume, Sayo, Chao, and Satsuki. Everyone else had flags tripping at moments in the series.
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>>159657148
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>>159656919
He really got punished by Chisame there.
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>>159657148
>lifemaker's magic circles
>>159657164
What the fuck is she doing there.
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>>159657168
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>>159657140

Ku Fei wanted him for a while in Negima (around the time she got her artifact was when it started), so this isn't really out of left field for her. Ako got over it, if I remember correctly.
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>>159657230
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>>159657250
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you could've post faster
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>>159657292
That's all.
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>title is UQ Holder
>entire chapter is literally Negima
>the state of UQucks
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>>159657361
What rock have you been under this past two years?
UQ got a straight re-titled to a Negima sequel when it switch to monthly.
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At least he chose best girl for once, I'm satisfied.
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>>159657361
It's reminding me of when Akamatsu was good.
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>>159657346
Fucking always Yaldabaoth isn't it
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SLUTS
L
U
T
S
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>>159656088
Damn it, Ayaka was best girl desu.
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>>159657467
Yaldabaoth?
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>>159657526
After that she got fucked by a fat, bald, faceless old man
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>>159654001
Well at least this answers the age old question
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>>159657361
Nah, UQ Holder was just an excuse of Ken so he can finish Negima.
Just like how the "harem" in Negima is just an excuse so Ken can try writing shounen shit.
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>>159657466

Akamatsu's driving skills haven't deteriorated at all but he had to take a looooong fucking detour.

People forget how long it took Negima to get good. At least 3 years to get to the festival arc and another 2 to finally launch the magic world arc and kick the story into great territory.
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>>159657467
You got something against Yabbadabbadoo?
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>>159657533
Both Yaldabaoth and Ialdabaoth are used to identify the same being. Wonder what this means for UQ's endgame though.
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>>159657361
It's been called Negima sequel since the beginning. But it doesn't mean that the main cast in Negima is more relevant. Learning what happened in Negima's good end is not bad at all.
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>>159657292
>he' or rather she
his dad was his mom the whole time?
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>>159657788
Yalda was originally a grill.
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>>159657788
It's because Ialda is female.
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>>159657501
Was Yuna always like that with Negi? I know Misa would do it for reals.
>>159657545
Magic World Arc was great. What fucked it up was the entire bullshit that came after the Rakan fight.
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Finally a good chapter. I hope it continues with the Negima backstory.
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>>159657889
>inb4 2 year flashback arc
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>>159654001
>Negi choose glassed Who girl over everyone else
would be worth to go back 20years in time and spoil
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>>159657947
He chose Chisame, the one girl he had chemistry with and got to know a lot.
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>>159655687
worst taste
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>>159656504
asuna is a cuckquean
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>>159657361
they changed it like 8 months ago
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-10-07/uq-holder-manga-adds-magister-negi-magi-2-subtitle/.107381
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>>159655269
>869x1305
What? Did you faggots not buy it from comixology in glorious 3056 px resolution?
What a waste of 2$
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>>159658212
>Paying for manga
Leave.
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>>159658259
>not supporting the author
Disgusting.
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>>159657346
What do you suppose the immortals were doing while this was happening?
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This thread made me sad
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THIS.
H
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S
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>>159655687
Man of culture, great taste.
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>>159657569
I feel like the collective unconscious, the Demiurge and Izanami are at this point Japan's villain greatest hits. Maou's have completely fallen off the villain spectrum
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Chisame best girl
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>>159658368
*worst
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>>159658368
*third best
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>reject shota
>become cat lady
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>>159658304
Are you sad because your waifu lose or miss old Negima?
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Negima's end is seven years later. It means Negi didn't confess 5 years later, he is still single 7 years later. He probably confesses to someone this year but Akamatsu won't reveal it. Sasuga.
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>>159656105
Did you even read the magic world arc?
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>>159658526
I miss the old negmia but Honestly any girl other then the megane girl would have been fine to me
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Harem end or riot.
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>>159657346
>>159657292
>father
>she

What
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>>159658367
Don't worry, SMT Switch will save us from "Human Negativity = Final Boss" hell
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Should have married that blonde rich broad.
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>>159656381
It's an absolute miracle he made it through 2 years with that class without being raped.
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I am surprisingly ok with this confession but hated TWGOK Keima's confession.
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>>159656919
>skipping 5 years worth of amazing fantasy adventures right to the finale

As bad as the first ending t.b.h.
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>>159654001
Lemme guess, after the fight he will fall into a coma so Chisame will take care of him like in Magic World for 2 years and then she will accept the confession when he wakes up.
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>>159658882
He jobs to the Lifemaker.
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>>159658919
This is the timeline of Negima's ending, isn't it? I remember he wins and survives in the end
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I hope Touta will ask at the end of the flashback who Negi chose after the timeskip. He is not retarded.
>>159658919
They win here.
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>>159659231
>He is not retarded
He pretty much is.
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>>159657164
So they built a fleet of cannon fodder? Why can't this hack just write harem hijinks instead of battle, drama and timeskip shit?
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>>159658858
>5 years worth of tedious preparation
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>>159654569

There's two timelines? Explain this shit
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>>159655687
good. I liked this girl.
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>>159654368
>Eva

You mean """"""Yukihime"""""" right?
Eva is nowhere to be seen in this story.
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>>159658289
>supporting Akamatsu after Negima's ending

never ever again.
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>>159659323
Read 137.
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From an objective Pactio kiss only barometer, Chachamaru or Ayaka should have won.

Nodoka and Yue are clear 3rd and 4th place.
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>>159659363
Yukihime is best girl.
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>>159656553
>Touta
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I would have preferred best girl Ku-Fei but that was a pipe dream, this right here is fine, I liked all the Negi girls to be honest.
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I don't mind Chisame winning but
>rejected
what the fuck? why?

Even now Ken confirms himself a full hack.
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>>159659614
So Negi can go confess again when he gets back?
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>>159655687
well this was obvious. She babyshitted him the whole mars arc.
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>>159659457
Yukihime means Kitty. Fixed.
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>>159656003
>Most of the girls he likes also love him and will accept the confession immediately
>The one he loves most reject him
Being Negi is suffering
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>>159659702
Yeah, if it wasn't Chisame it'd be Chachamaru, as leading contenders going by relationship development in MM arc.
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>>159659702
Other girls are clingy retards. Negi is not into clingy retards.
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>>159656105
Did you even read the fucking series?
Granted I wanted Fei to win
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Negi will confess to her again, Chisame was great the whole manga.
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>>159656177
Well they're middle school girls anon
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>>159655687
And this is where shit hits the fan
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>>159656286
I miss Ship shitposting to anon but let's keep bait to acceptable levels
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>>159655687
Magia erebea arc
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>>159656985
>Kotaro
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>>159657847
Yuna is a daddy's girl but she likes teasing Negi like that
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>>159655687
Amazing taste. This is actually make sense
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>>159658368
Negima was full of top tier girls
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>>159656852
Naru had glasses
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>>159655754
aggressive girl always lose
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>Asuna is literally the perfect match for Negi
>But their relationship is that of a brother and sister
>The only other one who understands him is Chisame and she told him to retry 5 years later
Why you do this Akamatsu? I think he just doesn't want Negi to end with anyone.
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>>159659971
My. Nigga.
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>>159659323
>Asuna goes to sleep for over a hundred years (UQ)
>Asuna comes back to "main" Negima universe after waking up through time travel
Asuna wakes up and is sad everyone she loves is dead then Eve and Chao help her go back to right after she ascends to her sleeping place then we get Negima's epilogue
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>>159656088
>>159656156
>>159656156
No wonder they lose
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>>159660184
That girl isn't top tier and Kotaro could have scored better.
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>>159659443
>From an objective Pactio kiss only barometer, Chachamaru or Ayaka should have won.
wrong fag
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>>159660226
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>>159660286
She cucked her husband of his first kiss
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>>159656770
Based Chisame
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>>159656919
His smile and optimism : gone
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So will we get to see the gay marriage now too?
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>>159660306
I'm still waiting for UQ's Kiss Kiss Carrnival chapters that does not focus only on loli Naru3.0 but with all of Touta's loli harem.
Pactios might get back in the story again to give the other girls their edge in combat.
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>>159658827
>He could have taken her (on) by force too.
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So the first half of the chapter happens before Asuna is sealed is that that right?

Then the 5 years timeskip happens in the timeline where Asuna came back (the negima ending). It's not happening in the UQ holder/Asuna is still sealed timeline is that right?
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>>159660610
It is after the seal. Right after the graduation, Asuna already came back.
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>>159660610
>It's not happening in the UQ holder/Asuna is still sealed timeline is that right?
Yes, basically this>>159657097
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So none of what's happening in this chapter is not related to the UQ holder timeline. What's the point besides giving more details about Negima's ending?
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>>159660707
is related*
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>>159660707
>What's the point besides giving more details about Negima's ending?

Are you retarded?
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>>159660707
Mostly to give us a Negima ending and to go into that mage of beginning or whatever
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>>159660707
UQ Holder bombed

So bring back Negima

Except Japs are smarter than that

Fool them once and they're gone forever

He should have done a completely new manga
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>>159660733
It's a bit late to offer a longer conclusion to your previous manga, especially when the events happening in this timeline are not related to UQ Holder.
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>>159659614
So nodoka and yue can try and get dumped again in 5 years kek
Like hell he'd change to another girl at this endgame
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>>159660763
Negi wanted Touta to see it so it will be related to UQ Holder.
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Konoka should have been the surprise winner, cucking Setsuna out.

It ties in Touta and not fill more plot holes.
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>>159660763
It's never too late.

And some of it might well be important later even in this timeline.
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>>159659614
To confess again after 5 years and show that his love is real and that confession isn't a thoughtless decision of a naive child
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>>159659323
Simple version 3 timelines in Negima.

1. Chao's timeline.
2. Chao comes back in time. Main timeline of both Negima and UQ Holder.
3. Asuna comes back in time. Negima epilogue and what you are seeing in this ch.
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>>159660707
Bruh. I am never not down for more Negima. UQ was great up until that retarded long ass boat race whatever the fuck that was, and then all the focus on Kirie... and I genuinely like Kirie but shit, space it out at least, Ken.
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Why don't negi just impregnate them all

he's the magic god goddamnit
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>>159661567
He has dark sperm now and presumably can't impregnate anyone.
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>>159661567
Some characters got married.
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>>159655496
I AM NOT OKAY WITH THIS
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>>159661567
Do you forget that he is infertile?
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>managed to gather this much of shitstorm even after the series ended while ago

UQ holder is a mistake.
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>>159661736
>>159662044
where is this stated?
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Man, I loved Negima, the abrupt ending fucked me up.

I've been avoiding this UQ holder thing like the plague because I fear it'll turn out the same. If I wanted to get into it now, I'd probably have to re-read Negima as well because it's been so long, and it's just be the same emotional rollercoaster with no fulfilling ending, don't know if I can handle that.
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>>159662111
Setsuna speculates about it in 342, though it's neither confirmed or denied, and Cutlass flat-out states he couldn't have children in Holder.
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>>159658452
>>159658540
>still single and unhappy
>Negi goes full punished and still single
He'll confess again and Chisame will win everywhere.
The other timeline she's with Negi and Chachamaru being all happy, no?

Feels good
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>>159662125
You're not missing anything of value anyway. UQH is basically the lesser shadow version of what Negima was.
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>>159662125
Negima ended abruptly because the publisher was pushing for a law that would let it essentially steal the copyright of anything it published. Doesn't make the ending itself any better, of course, but it does mean it didn't end like that because he thought it was a good ending and wants to do another like it.
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>>159659614
She didn't even fully reject him. She's just making sure she doesn't bind an 11yo kid in something that might not even love, just a crush or respect. He's still just a kid.

Even the other girls understood here >>159656770 it isn't that hard anon.
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>>159662468
But can UQ Holder really fix all that or is the damage done?
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>>159662468
>>>159662125
>Negima ended abruptly because the publisher was pushing for a law that would let it essentially steal the copyright of anything it published.
Iirc they were trying to make it more like America where the publisher owns the IP (hence why Marvel and DC can just keep putting new writers on their capes forever after the old ones quit) unlike the current system in Japan where the original creator always has the final say
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>>159662111
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>Negima was one of the original /a/ generals
>UQ Holder comes and no one cares about it anymore
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>>159662583
>Ken will never take a break for research ever again
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>>159662613
>>159662583
>yfw after he ends UQ Holder he does Love Hina Nidaime.
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>>159662583
>He wants generals
Fuck off.
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>>159662408
Well, Negima didn't exactly start out as a blast either.
That said Mahora had a lot of charm and it always bothered me Ken never really fleshed the place out. Even then, the Holders HQ and any location on Earth so far is just utter shit by comparison.
I thought initially Ken would explore Earth a bit more and how Magic has changed its society, but the concepts were dropped pretty quickly and aside from that, Earth is a very boring setting and I hope they get away from it as soon as possible.

Holder's main problem is Ken refusing to get on with the story and stay there.
Instead he keeps falling into his old traps even now. He can do an engaging story if only he would let himself, but he keeps stalling with boring haremshit. It was once his trademark but I really wish he had grown out of it by now. It's especially aggravating now that the series went monthly so chapters feel even more wasted.

It still has a lot of potential. It could literally go anywhere. The Lifemaker could well be the main antagonist of the story, but considering her name is Yaldabaoth, the existence of the Black of Venus and Karin's Grace of God she may well be only the Disc One Final Boss. It could end in the near future or go on forever.
The problem is the story is such a mess it's hard to see Ken's intentions through it.
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>>159662827
Generals back then weren't what generals are now.
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>>159662480
It's not about it being hard it's about being yet another unfulfilling disappointing end to something that held great expectations.
Fuck Ken.
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>Chisame won
>Eva and Asuna still on the cover
>not even a plushie

JUST
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>>159661567
Literally who would object if he marries his whole class?
Leaving out the ones who aren't interested with him of course.
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>>159663016
Ken loves his Naru clones.
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>>159663016
>Yukishit instead of regular Eva
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>>159663118
Eva (adult) is the best.
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>>159662583
Nobody cares for a sausage fest.
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>>159654001
Will any fight top Negi vs Rakan?
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>>159663141
Fuck off and keep your manface granny.
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>>159663372
What's the scroll Eva doing in the UQ Holder timeline?
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>>159662583
>tip toeing whether it's a negima sequel or not
>confirming to be a real sequel when it doesn't matter anymore
>boring cast, even after many chapters
>moving to monthly
Yeah a lot of things killed it.
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>>159662468
>>159662562
Why do people still believe this? Akamatsu had a disagreement with Kodansha over their support of the TPP, which would allow second-party license holders to pursue legal action for copyrights, whereas currently only the original creator can in Japan. It is literally impossible for them to change International copyright law and seize the rights from the creator, Marvel and DC do this with contract agreements.
If they had really been trying to steal his work, why would he go back to them? UQ Holder started up in the exact same publication Negima was in.
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>>159663707
More like

>It was a Negima sequel from the beginning, just started out slow
>start tip toeing whether it's an actual sequel or a what-if spin-off.
>turns out to be the latter
>no one gives a shit about these AU characters
>repeat Negima's mistake of not telling the leads what is actually going on from the beginning
>boring cast
>boring setting
>keep falling back to haremshit
>series goes monthly but continues to be written with the pacing of a weekly series
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Nodoka/Eva best grills but I'm pretty happy with this chapter nonetheless. Chisame really does seem like the one he'd like the best. She's weird and nerdy and has so many interesting different/conflicting sides to her.
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>>159664130
>generic violent tsundere
>interesting
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>>159663857
>>It was a Negima sequel from the beginning, just started out slow
Yeah sure, with a full new cast and the only recognizable character (Eva) getting a complete new model, face, personality, mannerism and lifestyle.
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>>159660275
Kotaro's other choices were relatively low-tier. Natsumi was the best of them.
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>>159664169
Interesting to Negi, I don't like tsunderes myself but he obviously liked it throughout the series when she gave him bullshit instead of hitting on him like the other girls.
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>>159664254
The other band girl is not low-tier.

So is Chizuru and Ayaka.

Natsumi is a shitty cop-out choice.
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>>159660425
>So will we get to see the gay marriage now too?
I hope so.
It's a good chance to either completely dismiss KonoSetsu or make it canon on-screen where the class attends their wedding in Britain.
I still want to learn how Touta cloning experiment by mixing the genes of Negi and Konoe family and also Asuna in a tube was connected to it all.

And if his parents were related to KonoSetsu being their kids or just family members unrelated.

If KonoSetsu married in 2017 year it gives quite a long time for at least two generations here.
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>Negi confesses
>Gets rejected because Chisame is an insecure fuck
>Chisame goes full cat lady
>Negi stays single for life
Akamatsu. Not even once.
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>>159658081
She's also his aunt.
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>>159664871
How did she manage to make the NaruxKeitaro end happily is beyond me.
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>>159655269
>>159655496
Well now Iam fucking mad.
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>>159663629
play retro game
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>>159664907
I don't know why people keep saying this. There's no basis for it whatsoever.
Asuna is at least a 120 years old.
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>>159655687
Iai surprisingly okay with this.
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>>159664871
Negi is still a child.
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>>159664990
>she
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>>159655687
I don't know why this reminds me when Chihiro won BASED
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>>159665123
They are both children.

The whole child thing is just an excuse. Chisame just feels unworthy since she's convinced she's the ugly duckling of the class.
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Just swap this Chisame with her doujin stabbity-stab version and be done with it.

Where's Chao when you need her?
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>>159665330
Well she's ugly.
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>>159665453
She's supposed to be uglier than the other girls in that she needs makeup and stuff to look good, but Akamatsu's art is no good at conveying that since he draws her like a younger Naru.
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>>159665625
Huh, no she doesn't. You're confusing her photoshopping her pics to upload on the internet for her being ugly.
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>>159657981

Chemistry with the two girls with bluntest of crushes/confessions on him, a thing with his aunt and a thing with his 400 year old mentor who had a thing for his father. Denying yue and nodoka just meant Ken wanted a dark horse to win 'because', a number of girls had character development over the series just as drastic. We don't really know why Negi likes her over the others.
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I have faith that she'll win at the end of this flashback arc, when Negi does another confession.
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>>159655655
>This foreshadowing
I bet she will help Touta to defeat Mage of the beginning in some way
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>>159665750
>We don't really know why Negi likes her over the others.
Because they interact a lot, especially in MM, and I mean a lot. It was basically her, Asuna, Nodoka or Chachamaru and Asuna and Chachamaru are no-goes, which leaves Nodoka and I don't think he ever saw her as nothing but a student.
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>>159663735
I think the issue was that Publishers would gain some rights to works simply by publishing them.

So he stopped Negima in case the law passed.

This is probably also why he was cautious in the beginning of UQ Holder to use Negima names.
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>>159665407
>Chisame with her doujin stabbity-stab version
i might have read that one, if it is the one i think, its a master piece
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>>159656541
Im not even looking for her to win, caring nee-san Asuna is jusy best girl. Also this is one series I just cant comprehend people having girls they dont like. Favorites sure but the whole cast is just a lot of fun.
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>>159666264
I was a bit bummed Asuna didn't win the first time I finished it, but having read Negima about a dozen times by now I do like her a lot more as his onee-san.

Why couldn't she be the main character of a true sequel? She was the co-lead but Negi had clear priority and she's still missing loads of backstory and internal characterization. She was my favorite character in the entire story.
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>>159666441
I felt the same way originally but I reread it recently before just bumrushing uq and she just fits well being by his side in that sisterly way. I could never finish Negina!? Because they reduced her to nothing but hurr durr im dumb also chupacabra. How do you butcher best girl like that.
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I always gravitate to UQ threads despite not even reading it. Just reading dumps here

Youd think after all these years we'd move on but the void is still there

I miss old negima shenanigans truly
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>>159665042

We don't really know how closely related they are. She could the sister of his mother or higher. Either way she was 'used/frozen' for 100 years, then broken out of stasis by Negi's parents, then a bout of age regression, then negima happened. We don't know how long royals live, if anything else is special about them beyond access to a few magics. Aunt's just easy enough to say without a family chart.
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Those of you arguing about when UQ became a sequel, Ken said in an interview very early on it was. There was no "it was failing so he brought in Negima" shit. He planned it from the start.
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>>159666572
Nagi denies Arika being Asuna's sister when Rakan brought it up.
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When UQ came out I only got through the first 10 chapters before putting it on hold so I dont know how people here feel about it, but I really liked the way Touta turned out much more than I expected. He doesnt match up to Negi but it seemed like after the Clone reveal he started to get some amount of personality beyond "I'm that shonen protag ken always wanted to write".

That said is there any love for him or is he the cursed not negi?
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>>159666754
There are mainly two camps. Nostalgiafags who hate everything different from UQ and people who like UQ and dislike when Negima plot has too much importance. People who like both like seem to be the minority. Here at least.
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>>159666571
Same. I only read if Negima related stuff appears. Otherwise I just skip through the chapters and read the discussion, if any.
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>>159666572
Might have been answered if Negima had continued.
The Mage of the Beginning seems to have been human initially, as are her descendants, and you would think they have human lifespans as opposed to the created inhabitants of the Magic World.
The only notable exception was the Master of the Gravekeeper's Palace. Luna (i think it was) says her appearance changes sometimes and implies she's been around for a while. The person herself calls Negi her descendant, seemingly imply multiple generations in between.
The Master appears to look very similar to Arika and Asuna, especially the hair tails she's hiding under her hood, and Negi calls her Asuna's... Mother's... but that could mean literally everything.
Ken has probably forgotten her, though and it's not like she'll appear again.

I never doubted Ken had a lot of story to tell about the Magic World's creation and early history in Negima. But now we'll probably never know.

>>159666735
I seem to recall Nagi simply saying that Arika doesn't want to talk about Asuna.
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>>159666903
>people who like both are in the minority
Strange, I'm hoping developments intertwine them more. Bringing some of negimas character development into UQ can only benifit it.
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>>159657711

But that's also an issue, all this shit is partly irrelevant. It's not the timeline UQ is on, it's nice to see it but this is the timeline where things are fucked. Where is the tension or drama if we're seeing events we know the outcome of? What will be the ultimate purpose of this timeline? Resolution of shitty life of immortals? Is this going to elaborate on that one Eva that goes world hopping after she takes Asuna back to the good ending timeline?

Mutliverse was a thing since School Festival Arc, I just wished he hadn't done that fake out ending, it's a whole other can of worms. Viewers care less when it's a multiverse because you can do 'anything' as things don't feel finite since there's technically a timeline where your desired outcome is realized.
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>>159666607
Yeah I'm sure Ken would never admit his "totally new cast and setting" bombed and was forced to bring old time fan aficionados to re-raise interest.
Totally planned.
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>>159666903
There's also people who dislike it as being an inferior copy of Negima.
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>>159663370
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>>159662957

He's a kid. It's like accepting that any kid who says 'I wanna marry mom' is going to go through with it, as it's now a binding decision. Yea Negi isn't quite the normal 10 year old, but it's that + puberty soon™ + rescue father + finish MW terraforming, also added issue of him being immortal. She will die, he won't, lots of issues for them to work out and realise. 5+ years before committing makes sense, it's not like he could get it up yet.
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>>159654001
>best girl who doesn't openly lust after his cock wins
>she rejects him because he's just a kid and doesn't want to stop him from growing and potentially make a better love decision

I see nothing wrong with this
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>>159666903

I think it could stand on it's own eventually. Initially it's trying to deal with Negima left overs and concepts the series never got to deal with because it ended. Just that it spent so long trying to develop new characters that didn't click as well as negima did. And setting in within a time frame that older characters could still be around means tendency to expect and await them. Dealing with an immortal lifespan, terraforming mars, reveal of magic etc all seems like a good starting point, just the characters are not as good.
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>>159667717
This
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>>159654001
I like how she tries to act all smug and make a cool exit, but runs back after a few seconds to check on him. I do wish she had the opportunity to clarify things with him instead of the other girls butting in and interrupting though.
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>yfw Mage of the Beginning was just the single hope to defeat a threat that is on its way to threaten the Solar system.
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>>159667276
You're rationalizing yet another of Ken's shit endings.
She could've blushed and downplayed but still went along with it "in the future".
There are plenty of ways to handle this other than complete rejection.
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>>159667717
>rejecting him just for the sake of fake open ending to let people think other sluts can have their chance back
Nah he's a hack
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>>159656156
I even have never read Jojo and still get the reference
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I fucking hate Akamatsu and will never forgive him.
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>>159668061
>complete rejection
>"Try again in five years"
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Fuck it, I'm doing it. This season is shit anyway so I have the time. Re-reading the entirety of Negima and then starting UQ Holder.
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>>159668120
it's in-character for Chisame to reject him, don't judge it for a meta reason
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>>159668404
Rereading Negima these last couple weeks was good for the soul. Asuna being alone in the future still makes me tear even knowing it gets resolved
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>>159657346
This is good timeline so of course he will live and come back to confess again. I believe that you won't bullshit anything to back to square one again, Ken!
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>>159666441
aren't they cousins too? Granted nips don't care
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>>159655687
Nice.
Feels good when best girl wins.
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>>159666982
Rakan specifically asks if they're sisters and Nagi says no.
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All the girls should have stayed single for the rest of their lives

especially ayaka, that slut
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Chapter was actually pretty alright. Chisame wasn't actually wrong in her prediction either.
Forcing Negi to be singlehandedly motivated in his task was honestly the best option for everyone involved.
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>>159664396
Ayaka isn't even competing.

Chizuru is more of a mother figure.

The only ones who can even be said to be competing for the Kotarobowl are irrelevant band girl, Natsumi, and Mei.
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>>159663016
Asuna was the main heroine of Negima and Eva is the main heroine of Holder. It has nothing to do with who ends up with whom.
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You guys do realize that in the normal course of events Negi would've defeated the Lifemaker and saved his father BEFORE this confession happened, thus removing any need for him to be "focused on the goal" and all that justification for leaving him "free" now, right?

In other words, we got fucked off without a proper love ending for Negi because Hackamatsu needed to keep the Lifemaker alive for UQH.
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>>159668761
>Noo... I get the feeling she doesn't want to talk about Princess-chan

It's very vague and can be interpreted either. It was a flat-out no the rest of the sentence seems very out of place.
He might've used iie in the original text but even then that's not a definite no word, which doesn't exist in the language.
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>>159665750
Nodoka and Yue themselves confirmed that Negi's feelings for Asuna and Eva were mostly fraternal love and respect, and at this point no one doubts that.
Asuna always had the big sister role and she herself confirmed she wasn't his favorite in this topic.
Eva was always Negi's mentor in his PoV, and Negi was always a Nagi proxy for her (just like any Nagi friend).

Then we only had Chachamaru, Yue, Nodoka and Chisame in the run.
Yue chemistry was a watered down Nodoka, never going too far and if it ever happened, she would still lose to Nodoka because Nodoka's flags were stronger and happened more often. She was never in Negi's radar, she was just Nodoka's friend-rival.
Chachamaru wouldn't ever win (at least alone) for obvious reasons, but she wouldn't ever fully lose too because she's a robot and could always be with Negi.
Then the only two left were Nodoka and Chisame, both in Negi's radar and rising flags. Nodoka's flags were stronger during Mahora, but Chisame took the lead after the school fest and it never went down again, even more during early Magic World arc, where her flags always rose and were stronger than any other, and she was always on Negi's mind and interacted with him more.
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>>159669558

>Chachamaru wouldn't ever win (at least alone) for obvious reasons, but she wouldn't ever fully lose too because she's a robot and could always be with Negi.

Bah. Lies and slander. Chachamaru not winning the Negi is a crime. He's not even a human nor is he capable of having children anymore when all's said and done, he doesn't need a human girl.
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>>159668061
She didn't complete rejected him.
Forget the "five years", there's even the
>are you alright with this? His next confession might not be tou again
>that's what I want
So she still considers herself there, but put Negi and his maturity in the first place.
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>>159669558
It does make sense when you break it down, still all I want is more. I loved the more serious parts of Negima, but the return to antics at the very end of it made me want it to go on forever. The ending of Angel Densetsu made me feel that way too, especially with that thing the author wrote about the characters having a life of their own at that point.
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>>159669197
If they were sisters it'd also be strange to start such a response with "no."

It's harder to believe they're sisters given Asuna's time spent in stasis. There's zero evidence Arika is 100+ years old.
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>>159669768
This. Chachamaru was clearly a top tier contendant that got sidelined due to Naru-lookalike bias and nepotism.
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>>159669777
Bullshit.
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>>159669768
I know where you're coming from and want the same, but I just don't want to stay delusional forever.
Chachamaru was always made to be a default loser and winner at the same time with the immortality flag, because the others either never got enough development (ghost, demons) or were already in another bowl since forever (Eve).
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>>159669932
Trips don't lie, anon.
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You guys are all forgetting the true top contender.
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>>159670088
Depending on how you want to interpret him he is either incapable of love entirely or he is still hung up on Luna's sister's death even after 80 years.
He also dies in the movie, but who knows if Ken would've implemented elements of it in the manga had it continued normally.

Either way it's not going to happen.
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>>159655687
BEST GIRL FUCKING WON
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>>159668899
oh shit
>time skip is purposely 5 years later
>after Iaida gets rekt Negi is now free of his responsibilities and can propose again
>it's going to happen
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>>159670088
What the fuck even happened to his own mini harem?
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>>159670356
Considering they're demi-humans they might actually still be around and we'll see them once they inevitably go to the Magic World.

I hope Cosmo Entelecheia as a whole returns, as they are technically still alive as well.
And I loved Dynamis. The man was a riot.
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>>159669980

Chachamaru didn't just get forced into Main Event status, she had to put in a fair amount of work to ascend from glorified extra through being Eva's sidekick. If anything for a lot of her focus chapters Chisame was HER Yue! It's freaking outrageous that she was relegated to Forever Second Place when she had the most effort put into making her and KEEPING her romantically relevant over the course of the manga.
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>>159670264
>he is either incapable of love entirely or he is still hung up on Luna's sister's death even after 80 years.

I was being facetious but you're retarded if you think either of these things.
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>Finally the answer
>Chisame end!
>verything you've always wished for
>but she rejects him, nothing happens, status quo unchanged, negi broken, no hijinks, not even a slight little romance moment

Why does Ken have to ruin every single thing he had left to touch?
Seriously what the fuck? This is some George Lucas level shit.
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>>159670356
Those girls flaunted their bare asses in front of him and he just told them to go away. He cared about them but none of them stood a chance.
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>>159669932
He is right though. But it's still bullshit since it's another troll move by Akamatsu.
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>>159655687
Delete this right fucking now
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>>159670552
>are you alright with this? His next confession might not be tou again
>that's what I want
>So she still considers herself there

Bullshit.
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>>159670356
Pretty sure that the two girls Touta jobbed to in the earlier tournament arc were one of Fate's bitches.
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>>159670746
They weren't. But they seemed to be a reference to them.
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>>159670506
>>159670506
Thank god Love Hina is over and he can't ruin it any more.
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>>159669870

I hate stories that have a large cast then break them up at the end, just feels cruel to forcefully separate them all after their years of adventure, more so when many clearly still show interest in similar activities.
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>>159669768
Hey she definitely made the semi finals anon thats more than a lot of girls get
Chisame, Chachamaru, and Fate were the most likely it seemed to me
Nodoka, Yui, and Fei were second stringers
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>>159670356
MIA ever since Fate joined Negi's harem
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So will Eva have a happy ending with Touta? Fuck Negi the guy has shit taste just like his father.
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Nodoka was out from the start as she was just a Shinobu expy.
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>>159671488
I can only hope not.
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>>159671488
To be fair didn't Nagi bag the princess before he met Eva?
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>>159671631
also whatever fucking happened to her anyway?
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>>159671467

Setsuna was my favorite character. Akamatsu kept playing with my heart by raising minor flags for her with Negi even though she was clearly already waifu'd from her first story arc. Luckily I learned to root for Best Robot and could just appreciate her being a badass half-demon asskicker.
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>>159671488
>He believes in Eva end after all this Kirie chapter
Also her fetish is getting cucked, there's no need to worry about her.
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>>159671731
Fuck you. FUCK YOU.
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>>159671709
Yeah she had a decent love score too from the weasel iirc
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>>159671731
I forgot about how Onodera won Nisekoi and Asuka won Kimi no Iru Machi.
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Akamatsu is a bigger hack than fucking Ridley Scott
Fuck him, I hope UQ Holder will get axed
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>>159672160
I hope Negima gets axed. Akamatsu hasn't worked on UQ Holder for over a year now
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>>159672466
>draws a series for a new generation of readers
>takes place in the same universe with numerous head nods that older fans can enjoy
>sells out
>becomes a literal prostitute
>starts jerking off overgrown manchildren with disposable income
>alienates the original target demographic
A hack to rule all hacks.
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>>159672818
He actually mentions in an interview that he made more male characters for UQ to attract more female readers. Ken doesn't seem to realize you need to actually give them focus to accomplish that.

Also, still waiting.
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>>159669192
No? Negi didn't defeat the lifemaker during that year Negima takes place in. The epilogue tells us it was years later.

As for Holder, they fight the lifemaker like 60 years after that, which is when she takes Negi, so it's unrelated. By that point in the good end timeline, she's been defeated for good decades before.
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>Naru wins again
Am I being trolled?
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>touta is basically Negi and Asunas magic baby
We all know who the real winner is
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I am so glad Negi picked the best girl.
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>>159656156
>Nurse is also here
Fuck. Wasn't she a thing with doggy?

Also Akira a super cute.
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>>159671283
He's already ruining it with his naru look-alike.
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>>159673478
Freckles wanted, and married, doggy. Nurse wanted older Negi.
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>>159656504
I didn't like Asuna MUH MUH FRIENDSHIP in the original but thanks god for her intervention.
That kind of bullying is only ok in a -18 piece.
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>>159673106
You'll be waiting forever then.
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>>159673421
Asuna is his loving onee-san and they work best like that.

Their bastard child's existence is not only disturbing, but cheapens Asuna and Negi both.
Ken certainly didn't pull a creative muscle when he went deep into his box of oldest shounen clichés known to man and came up with Clonoe Touta.
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>>159656919
>Punished Negi
Getting rejected by your first love is one hell of drug.
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In Chao's timeline, Negi presumably never becomes an immortal monster. He ends up with someone and eventually Chao is born as his descendant. We'll likely never know who, but it's whoever was in Chao's book.

In the main timeline, Negi can't have children. It's unknown if he ever ended up with anyone in any capacity, and honestly, he's going to die during Holder.

In the good end timeline, he still can't have children, and we're seeing him get rejected, but I guess we'll see if he ends up with someone later on. Though Chisame becomes a hikki.
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>>159656829
>>159656858
I really fucking hate the manga artist girl.
She's such a shit character.
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>>159673557
Just like everyone else who likes any other character besides Kirie.
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>>159673599
>>159673421
grandchild. Copy of a copy. Cutlass too.
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>>159656858
Also such a shame Setsuna turned from "cold character but with strong feelings" into a permanently :D face.
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>>159673711
When is cutlass black then?
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>>159673599
I mean hes just a negi clone with asuna magic mixed in since its kind of the most important magic in existence so its not really that bad
>>159673711
I thought they didnt specify why they call him grand son considering hes just the umpteenth time they tried making a clone and it finally worked. If hes a copy of a copy whos the first copy

Either way I just wanter an excuse to say that Asuna is best girl.
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>>159657195
>Kotaro sidelined to the end
Oh come on.
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I used to be able to visit these threads without having read that stupid shota wizard manga. Hell, I used to be able to read UQH without needing to know about that stupid shota wizard manga. You guys think this shit is gonna eventually end or just keep going like how Gintama is now?
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>>159667717
He can't grow anymore, dumbass.
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>>159670441
I agree with you. Chacha is still the default winner anyway, so at least being a second place ia still good.
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>>159673937
This was always its destination. It was apparent from the very first chapter.

Can't help your retardation.
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>>159660033
Water Fate doll cutie was criminally underused.
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>>159656747
Fuck, I remember again.

I was shipping those two so hard back then.

Fuck. God fucking dammit.
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>>159667717
>describing Yukihime and Touta

Coincidence?
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>>159673937
Oh you know its only the entire foundation of the world the manga is placed in. Fuck that shit right?
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>>159660741
>Fool them once and they're gone forever
Dragon Ball.
Naruto.
Berserk.

Yeah, they're sooo smart.
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>>159670700
Keyword is might.
She still considers that she might be confessed again. She puts her point quite clearly.
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>>159673946
He's clearly grown when possessed by MotB.
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>>159668120
Seriously though its pretty fitting for her personality. If she just went with it youd probably feel like it was out of character
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>>159673979
>It was apparent from the very first chapter.
Please get your head out of your ass and stop being a fanboy. It'd clearly have some negima stuff but it wasn't supposed to be focused on negima stuff. It was a standalone that didn't require prior knowledge. And it stayed that way for a huge chunk of chapters.
The first fucking page is Yukihime turning her back on the entire negima cast and walking forward towards a new story.
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>>159673711
That's not true, that's never been stated. He's the first successful clone that can use both Negi and Asuna's power.

They probably just use the term grandchild because it realistically makes sense when you take into account how many years have passed. Remember that at first Eva was hiding the truth from him.
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>>159674041
>deliberately not being able to read because you think your favorite japanese cartoon is being attacked
stop
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>>159673946
They mention that he might grow up a bit in Negima and he is clearly full bishonen in UQ
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>>159660286
so, by the end, what happened to that ferret again? Can't remember
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>>159655496
I waited half of a decade for this?
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>>159674160
Im just saying you are stupid if you didnt expect this negima focus at some point because it is the foundation of the series even if it were just a spinoff
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>>159673946
>>159674178
To be fair, it's never been specified if he's actually grown or is using aging magic (like Fate and Eva).

For example, why did Fate's spell to separate Negi from the LM have them all as kids? Those are Eva and Fate's true forms so perhaps it's Negi's as well?
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>>159673552
Ah, yeah. Mixed them up.
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>>159674276
he hangs out in Negi's workshop
He showed up not to long ago I think he might be narrating this flashback stuff
>>159674342
Nostalgia probably
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>>159674276
He was in the last chapter numbnut.
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>>159674315
>In the decade since the world became aware of the existence of magic, the world has undergone massive upheaval. However, a boy named Tōta lives in seclusion in a rural town far removed from these changes. His ordinary life is highlighted by his magic-using female teacher and his supportive friends. When his tranquil daily life is disrupted, he embarks on a unique adventure.

Literally the description it launched with dude. I think I'm well within normal levels of tardation.
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>>159674371
Why would a spell need a nostalgia factor?

If he's separating the real Negi from the LM wouldn't it make sense for the spell to portray everyone as their real selves?
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>>159673711
>>159673812
It's not confirmed, just implied that they are second generation clones, hence grandchildren.

>>159673756
Same reason she's a girl and Touta has black hair.
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>>159674432
It also says it might just be the difference in age there. Implication goes both ways.
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>>159674417
Yeah but in the first few chapters its bringing negi stuff up with the towers so its clear the story is going to go there at some point or another. Theres no way they are going to bring the characters to the monument of negis efforts and not draw it into the story.
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>>159655687
The mad men.
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>>159674432
So its intentionally ambiguous, though I'm leaning towards the age explanation since they said he was the first successful clone if I read it right. It wouldn't make sense to clone the failures.
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>>159674536
I never said it would/should be devoid of stuff from the previous work. But you gotta admit there was a tonal shift where it back UQ Holder with Negima callbacks and characters, to Negima with UQ Holder characters.
I could understand it just fine until about 100 chapters in.
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>>159673106
>He actually mentions in an interview that he made more male characters for UQ to attract more female readers.
While alienating male readers. Bravo.
Fairy Tail actually managed to attract both.
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>>159674622
*it went from UQ
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>>159674619
The question is why does cutlass seem to be younger than him, given what she calls him? They kept making more but those were also failures? That's odd.
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>>159674079
>is fine with Negi not confessing to her ever again
>still there
No she's not, hence bullshit, hence hack ending.
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>>159673673
Chao does know Magia erebea. It might even be inherited.
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>>159674645
>While alienating male readers
Said literally nobody. The addition male characters don't do shit and barely appear.
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>>159656888
>>159656919
>>159656985

>Build space ships and fly to a magical world to fight some galactical space war that will determine the fate of humanity in jus 5 years

So this is what man can achieve when they abandon woman.
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>>159674622
>I never said
Arent you the person complaining about even seeing it in
>>159673937
But I will agree there have been major tonal shifts but that wasnt the first one. One of the biggest points I felt the tone went permanentely in another direction was pic related
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>>159673673
I hope the Chao timeline is the one where he and Konoka got together for that sweet Magic Buff considering Konoka has more magic than Nagi.
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>>159674710
Dude what? People's been making fun of the "sausage fest holder" for years now. Where have you been?
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>>159659401
Sorry my understanding of time is a bit... weird at best.

are there 2 timelines?
because if asuna goes back in time then it's already happened.

Or is this world working on a different concept of how time works?
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>>159674769
>Arent you the person complaining about even seeing it in
About Negima? I tried reading it and it was really boring for me. I got like 5 volumes in. I only started into UQ Holder because I'm a huge faggot for manga where a central theme is immortality like pic related.
>One of the biggest points I felt the tone went permanentely in another direction was pic related
True, but that arc wasn't nearly as long. And it's a little different, as a writer, than just falling back onto your old characters, plots, and relationships.
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>>159674958
You assume those timelines are related to already existing timelines.

Where it could just be that this timeline is forged and bent by the clones simply existing, while even bending the accessible past timeline a bit out of shape (in form of a split-off).
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>>159675001
>volume 5
Shit man thats really not far in considering how short chapters are. Look if harem antics arent your thing people generally agree the series picks up a little bit in but its pretty good. The festival is pretty intense and the series does a good job building on itself. Id really reccomend giving it another shot. But yeah I'm just saying the tone has shifted a few times like again when touta learns hes a clone
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>>159675044
There are a few different time theories

1) everything that happens will happen, as in fate exists and you cant change it.
ex. you go back in time and try to kill someone who didn't die, every attempt will fail, think the revolver scene from final destination where every bullet wound did not fire but the moment it's not pointed at your head it does.
2) parallel worlds, you aren't necessarily going back in time, you are just going to a different universe that started X monet's before or after your current one, in this one fate does not exist so you could kill someone who didn't die in yours
3) everything happens at once, lets say in the year 3000 time travel is found and someone comes back in time to 2000, then they were always there, from the 'first' time 2000 happens, this allows you keep doing shit and allows for paradoxes to exist

negima, in the school festival arc saw 3 being how time travel worked, everything happened at once.
Did they change how the world works?
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Literally don't care anymore. Wish we could have stayed with the UQ cast instead which is funny because I wanted Negima story continuation at the beginning.
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>>159675212
>>159675001
Go go into this a little more what ends up making negima good is that it builds its character personalities up like your normal harem antics and then takes that development to put them in more battle adventure shonen situations so when the shonen business starts it doesnt feel like you are being dumped into this series where you have to learn the cast, you already know the cast and they are about to go on an adventure of sorts.
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>>159656156
Remember when Motoko clone was supposed to win?
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Isn't this one of the biggest spoilers ever?

I think only the identity of One Piece would top this
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>>159675454
No we already suspected she won and it was confirmed with the raws and the chapters announcement awhile back
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>>159657947
15, the manga started in 2003


Didn't he have a childhood friend called anya hwatever happened to her?
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>>159675509
that flat bitch wasn't even in the running
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>>159657052
>As it appears in the magical world
Wait, hold on. I thought Mundus Magicus was just Mars. Hows it reach to the asteroid belt? How big is this dimension?
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>>159674645
It should be obvious he meant he wanted more female readers in addition to the male readers. In that same interview he talks about how the girls have to always be cute. And as UQ progressed he put more spotlight on the girls and even made Touta's bro one of them, too. The point was he wanted to use the male characters to attract a wider audience but fails to even utilize them.
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>>159675212
>Shit man thats really not far in considering how short chapters are
I'm being nitpicky but chapter length wouldn't matter in a tankoubon's page count.
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>>159662857
Mahora felt like japanese Hogwarts when I was 13, that schol festival seemed so rad.
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>>159675579

Yaoi fans didn't have enough with Negi-Koutaro-Fate?
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>>159675716
Im just saying its less than 50 chapters that per chapter are pretty short. I'd reccomend giving it another shot and getting into the school festival. It really starts to flesh out characters and find a direction. Negi is also a neat protagonist because while he does have the whole son of this super dude and also boy genius thing going on they make it clear he works hard for everything he has. Plus magic kung fu with spell incantations and spell circles is just cool as it gets.
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>>159655687
The best taste.
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>>159675864
It's there but not really popular. Also Negima at its peak of fan content was before Fate came in with his subtext.

UQ anime might bring in some fujos.
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>>159675876
>Plus magic kung fu with spell incantations and spell circles is just cool as it gets.

I miss that shit.
These days everything's Magia Erebea and spamming elemental weapon projectiles.
Magical theory and world-building has long gone out the window.
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Don't mind me, just posting one of the dozens reasons why UQH will never top Negima.
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>>159676307
Chachamaru > all
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>>159676307
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>>159676307
Negima is one of my favorite manga in existence but Pactios were one of the few things I hated. They were trash.
They promote shitty harem elements and provided people with broken artifacts instantly and for no work at all.
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>>159676307
>haremshit
>good

Honestly that was the weakest aspect of