Why is Negi's taste so shit again?
Sigh...Years ago I'd finally gotten over how Negima had ended with no resolution. I read a bit of UQ Holder and immediately realized it was garbage, and was content with moving on from Negima.
Now, the one time a month I go on /a/, I just happen to come as this shit is posted and find out goddamn Chisame won the Negi Bowl. All that anger I buried is fucking bursting out now.
Ah well, at least it's not someone utter trash like Makie.
Yue pretty much was the reason Nodoka lost when you think about it. Nodoka was the obvious winner candidate during the first half, but when Yue revealed her feelings, Nodoka had to be considerate of her, which led to them pretty much turning into an irrelevant meme duo.
I doubt even Akamatsu remembers. That's the issue with this type of huge-ass casts. A bunch of them will end up drawing the short-straw and never any focus, much less a character arc.
Not really. He turned her down because he liked Chisame, but since she turned him down, Nodoka stands a chance again. Of course, she probably understands that he's not worthy of her now that he's revealed his shit taste. Negi lost the Nodokabowl, not the other way around.
One thing I didn't like about Akamatsu's faces is that sometimes I can't tell if they're surprised, happy, embarassed or angry. It's just that one big-mouthed expression. If there wasn't any text with the page, I'll probably miss the mood of the scene.
I thought Negi fucked Maki in the end of Negima?
Makes sense Eva wouldn't win. She got zoned hard by assuming the role as Negi's teacher. Moreover, she like Nagi's non-Rankan friends all kept using Negi as a proxy for Nagi.
All the kinky stuff was just petting. There was no serious passion behind it.
Sorry it didn't work out, Eva..
So this is how Akamatsu going to tell that abridged last battle to be ending we got years ago.
Talk about dragging the UQ plot just to expand a non in-timeline related events.
Filler arc next I guess.
im gonna bet $5 the last panel is actually a foreshadowing into future events.
I'm still pissed off that the original manga ended when it did. It had so much to offer. We didn't even get a story arcs for the cheer trio. Madoka was sexy and Kakizaki hinted some stuff in the manga. Also, Yuuna okay with Negi copping a feel?
The fucking potential all wasted coz of this long wait.
From memory, Ayaka, Makie, Chachamaru, Nodoka, Yue had really serious thoughts about Negi.
Ako had a thing for grown up Negi. Not really sure how that went for her.
From this chapter, it's shown that Ku Fei also wanted Negi.
Chisame also wants Negi, but not enough to chain him to her at his age.
The rest of the class ranges from fling to friendship. You wouldn't leave Negi alone with Misa for sure.
The only ones I think that Negi never got to really like him on any level of "want" basis was Kazumi, Asuna, Chizuru, Natsume, Sayo, Chao, and Satsuki. Everyone else had flags tripping at moments in the series.
Ku Fei wanted him for a while in Negima (around the time she got her artifact was when it started), so this isn't really out of left field for her. Ako got over it, if I remember correctly.
Akamatsu's driving skills haven't deteriorated at all but he had to take a looooong fucking detour.
People forget how long it took Negima to get good. At least 3 years to get to the festival arc and another 2 to finally launch the magic world arc and kick the story into great territory.
You got something against Yabbadabbadoo?
It's been called Negima sequel since the beginning. But it doesn't mean that the main cast in Negima is more relevant. Learning what happened in Negima's good end is not bad at all.
Was Yuna always like that with Negi? I know Misa would do it for reals.
Magic World Arc was great. What fucked it up was the entire bullshit that came after the Rakan fight.
>Negi choose glassed Who girl over everyone else
would be worth to go back 20years in time and spoil
Negima's end is seven years later. It means Negi didn't confess 5 years later, he is still single 7 years later. He probably confesses to someone this year but Akamatsu won't reveal it. Sasuga.
Don't worry, SMT Switch will save us from "Human Negativity = Final Boss" hell
>skipping 5 years worth of amazing fantasy adventures right to the finale
As bad as the first ending t.b.h.
Lemme guess, after the fight he will fall into a coma so Chisame will take care of him like in Magic World for 2 years and then she will accept the confession when he wakes up.
>5 years worth of tedious preparation
Did you even read the fucking series?
Granted I wanted Fei to win
I miss Ship shitposting to anon but let's keep bait to acceptable levels
Negima was full of top tier girls
>Asuna is literally the perfect match for Negi
>But their relationship is that of a brother and sister
>The only other one who understands him is Chisame and she told him to retry 5 years later
Why you do this Akamatsu? I think he just doesn't want Negi to end with anyone.
>Asuna goes to sleep for over a hundred years (UQ)
>Asuna comes back to "main" Negima universe after waking up through time travel
Asuna wakes up and is sad everyone she loves is dead then Eve and Chao help her go back to right after she ascends to her sleeping place then we get Negima's epilogue
>From an objective Pactio kiss only barometer, Chachamaru or Ayaka should have won.
I'm still waiting for UQ's Kiss Kiss Carrnival chapters that does not focus only on loli Naru3.0 but with all of Touta's loli harem.
Pactios might get back in the story again to give the other girls their edge in combat.
So the first half of the chapter happens before Asuna is sealed is that that right?
Then the 5 years timeskip happens in the timeline where Asuna came back (the negima ending). It's not happening in the UQ holder/Asuna is still sealed timeline is that right?
Simple version 3 timelines in Negima.
1. Chao's timeline.
2. Chao comes back in time. Main timeline of both Negima and UQ Holder.
3. Asuna comes back in time. Negima epilogue and what you are seeing in this ch.
Bruh. I am never not down for more Negima. UQ was great up until that retarded long ass boat race whatever the fuck that was, and then all the focus on Kirie... and I genuinely like Kirie but shit, space it out at least, Ken.
Man, I loved Negima, the abrupt ending fucked me up.
I've been avoiding this UQ holder thing like the plague because I fear it'll turn out the same. If I wanted to get into it now, I'd probably have to re-read Negima as well because it's been so long, and it's just be the same emotional rollercoaster with no fulfilling ending, don't know if I can handle that.
>still single and unhappy
>Negi goes full punished and still single
He'll confess again and Chisame will win everywhere.
The other timeline she's with Negi and Chachamaru being all happy, no?
Negima ended abruptly because the publisher was pushing for a law that would let it essentially steal the copyright of anything it published. Doesn't make the ending itself any better, of course, but it does mean it didn't end like that because he thought it was a good ending and wants to do another like it.
She didn't even fully reject him. She's just making sure she doesn't bind an 11yo kid in something that might not even love, just a crush or respect. He's still just a kid.
Even the other girls understood here >>159656770 it isn't that hard anon.
>Negima ended abruptly because the publisher was pushing for a law that would let it essentially steal the copyright of anything it published.
Iirc they were trying to make it more like America where the publisher owns the IP (hence why Marvel and DC can just keep putting new writers on their capes forever after the old ones quit) unlike the current system in Japan where the original creator always has the final say
Well, Negima didn't exactly start out as a blast either.
That said Mahora had a lot of charm and it always bothered me Ken never really fleshed the place out. Even then, the Holders HQ and any location on Earth so far is just utter shit by comparison.
I thought initially Ken would explore Earth a bit more and how Magic has changed its society, but the concepts were dropped pretty quickly and aside from that, Earth is a very boring setting and I hope they get away from it as soon as possible.
Holder's main problem is Ken refusing to get on with the story and stay there.
Instead he keeps falling into his old traps even now. He can do an engaging story if only he would let himself, but he keeps stalling with boring haremshit. It was once his trademark but I really wish he had grown out of it by now. It's especially aggravating now that the series went monthly so chapters feel even more wasted.
It still has a lot of potential. It could literally go anywhere. The Lifemaker could well be the main antagonist of the story, but considering her name is Yaldabaoth, the existence of the Black of Venus and Karin's Grace of God she may well be only the Disc One Final Boss. It could end in the near future or go on forever.
The problem is the story is such a mess it's hard to see Ken's intentions through it.
>Eva and Asuna still on the cover
>not even a plushie
Fuck off and keep your manface granny.
>tip toeing whether it's a negima sequel or not
>confirming to be a real sequel when it doesn't matter anymore
>boring cast, even after many chapters
>moving to monthly
Yeah a lot of things killed it.
Why do people still believe this? Akamatsu had a disagreement with Kodansha over their support of the TPP, which would allow second-party license holders to pursue legal action for copyrights, whereas currently only the original creator can in Japan. It is literally impossible for them to change International copyright law and seize the rights from the creator, Marvel and DC do this with contract agreements.
If they had really been trying to steal his work, why would he go back to them? UQ Holder started up in the exact same publication Negima was in.
>It was a Negima sequel from the beginning, just started out slow
>start tip toeing whether it's an actual sequel or a what-if spin-off.
>turns out to be the latter
>no one gives a shit about these AU characters
>repeat Negima's mistake of not telling the leads what is actually going on from the beginning
>keep falling back to haremshit
>series goes monthly but continues to be written with the pacing of a weekly series
Nodoka/Eva best grills but I'm pretty happy with this chapter nonetheless. Chisame really does seem like the one he'd like the best. She's weird and nerdy and has so many interesting different/conflicting sides to her.
>>It was a Negima sequel from the beginning, just started out slow
Yeah sure, with a full new cast and the only recognizable character (Eva) getting a complete new model, face, personality, mannerism and lifestyle.
>So will we get to see the gay marriage now too?
I hope so.
It's a good chance to either completely dismiss KonoSetsu or make it canon on-screen where the class attends their wedding in Britain.
I still want to learn how Touta cloning experiment by mixing the genes of Negi and Konoe family and also Asuna in a tube was connected to it all.
And if his parents were related to KonoSetsu being their kids or just family members unrelated.
If KonoSetsu married in 2017 year it gives quite a long time for at least two generations here.
Just swap this Chisame with her doujin stabbity-stab version and be done with it.
Where's Chao when you need her?
She's a /cgl/ whore
She's supposed to be uglier than the other girls in that she needs makeup and stuff to look good, but Akamatsu's art is no good at conveying that since he draws her like a younger Naru.
Huh, no she doesn't. You're confusing her photoshopping her pics to upload on the internet for her being ugly.
Chemistry with the two girls with bluntest of crushes/confessions on him, a thing with his aunt and a thing with his 400 year old mentor who had a thing for his father. Denying yue and nodoka just meant Ken wanted a dark horse to win 'because', a number of girls had character development over the series just as drastic. We don't really know why Negi likes her over the others.
>We don't really know why Negi likes her over the others.
Because they interact a lot, especially in MM, and I mean a lot. It was basically her, Asuna, Nodoka or Chachamaru and Asuna and Chachamaru are no-goes, which leaves Nodoka and I don't think he ever saw her as nothing but a student.
I think the issue was that Publishers would gain some rights to works simply by publishing them.
So he stopped Negima in case the law passed.
This is probably also why he was cautious in the beginning of UQ Holder to use Negima names.
Im not even looking for her to win, caring nee-san Asuna is jusy best girl. Also this is one series I just cant comprehend people having girls they dont like. Favorites sure but the whole cast is just a lot of fun.
I was a bit bummed Asuna didn't win the first time I finished it, but having read Negima about a dozen times by now I do like her a lot more as his onee-san.
Why couldn't she be the main character of a true sequel? She was the co-lead but Negi had clear priority and she's still missing loads of backstory and internal characterization. She was my favorite character in the entire story.
I felt the same way originally but I reread it recently before just bumrushing uq and she just fits well being by his side in that sisterly way. I could never finish Negina!? Because they reduced her to nothing but hurr durr im dumb also chupacabra. How do you butcher best girl like that.
I always gravitate to UQ threads despite not even reading it. Just reading dumps here
Youd think after all these years we'd move on but the void is still there
I miss old negima shenanigans truly
We don't really know how closely related they are. She could the sister of his mother or higher. Either way she was 'used/frozen' for 100 years, then broken out of stasis by Negi's parents, then a bout of age regression, then negima happened. We don't know how long royals live, if anything else is special about them beyond access to a few magics. Aunt's just easy enough to say without a family chart.
Those of you arguing about when UQ became a sequel, Ken said in an interview very early on it was. There was no "it was failing so he brought in Negima" shit. He planned it from the start.
When UQ came out I only got through the first 10 chapters before putting it on hold so I dont know how people here feel about it, but I really liked the way Touta turned out much more than I expected. He doesnt match up to Negi but it seemed like after the Clone reveal he started to get some amount of personality beyond "I'm that shonen protag ken always wanted to write".
That said is there any love for him or is he the cursed not negi?
There are mainly two camps. Nostalgiafags who hate everything different from UQ and people who like UQ and dislike when Negima plot has too much importance. People who like both like seem to be the minority. Here at least.
Might have been answered if Negima had continued.
The Mage of the Beginning seems to have been human initially, as are her descendants, and you would think they have human lifespans as opposed to the created inhabitants of the Magic World.
The only notable exception was the Master of the Gravekeeper's Palace. Luna (i think it was) says her appearance changes sometimes and implies she's been around for a while. The person herself calls Negi her descendant, seemingly imply multiple generations in between.
The Master appears to look very similar to Arika and Asuna, especially the hair tails she's hiding under her hood, and Negi calls her Asuna's... Mother's... but that could mean literally everything.
Ken has probably forgotten her, though and it's not like she'll appear again.
I never doubted Ken had a lot of story to tell about the Magic World's creation and early history in Negima. But now we'll probably never know.
I seem to recall Nagi simply saying that Arika doesn't want to talk about Asuna.
But that's also an issue, all this shit is partly irrelevant. It's not the timeline UQ is on, it's nice to see it but this is the timeline where things are fucked. Where is the tension or drama if we're seeing events we know the outcome of? What will be the ultimate purpose of this timeline? Resolution of shitty life of immortals? Is this going to elaborate on that one Eva that goes world hopping after she takes Asuna back to the good ending timeline?
Mutliverse was a thing since School Festival Arc, I just wished he hadn't done that fake out ending, it's a whole other can of worms. Viewers care less when it's a multiverse because you can do 'anything' as things don't feel finite since there's technically a timeline where your desired outcome is realized.
He's a kid. It's like accepting that any kid who says 'I wanna marry mom' is going to go through with it, as it's now a binding decision. Yea Negi isn't quite the normal 10 year old, but it's that + puberty soon™ + rescue father + finish MW terraforming, also added issue of him being immortal. She will die, he won't, lots of issues for them to work out and realise. 5+ years before committing makes sense, it's not like he could get it up yet.
>best girl who doesn't openly lust after his cock wins
>she rejects him because he's just a kid and doesn't want to stop him from growing and potentially make a better love decision
I see nothing wrong with this
I think it could stand on it's own eventually. Initially it's trying to deal with Negima left overs and concepts the series never got to deal with because it ended. Just that it spent so long trying to develop new characters that didn't click as well as negima did. And setting in within a time frame that older characters could still be around means tendency to expect and await them. Dealing with an immortal lifespan, terraforming mars, reveal of magic etc all seems like a good starting point, just the characters are not as good.
I like how she tries to act all smug and make a cool exit, but runs back after a few seconds to check on him. I do wish she had the opportunity to clarify things with him instead of the other girls butting in and interrupting though.
You're rationalizing yet another of Ken's shit endings.
She could've blushed and downplayed but still went along with it "in the future".
There are plenty of ways to handle this other than complete rejection.
aren't they cousins too? Granted nips don't care
Feels good when best girl wins.
Chapter was actually pretty alright. Chisame wasn't actually wrong in her prediction either.
Forcing Negi to be singlehandedly motivated in his task was honestly the best option for everyone involved.
Ayaka isn't even competing.
Chizuru is more of a mother figure.
The only ones who can even be said to be competing for the Kotarobowl are irrelevant band girl, Natsumi, and Mei.
You guys do realize that in the normal course of events Negi would've defeated the Lifemaker and saved his father BEFORE this confession happened, thus removing any need for him to be "focused on the goal" and all that justification for leaving him "free" now, right?
In other words, we got fucked off without a proper love ending for Negi because Hackamatsu needed to keep the Lifemaker alive for UQH.
>Noo... I get the feeling she doesn't want to talk about Princess-chan
It's very vague and can be interpreted either. It was a flat-out no the rest of the sentence seems very out of place.
He might've used iie in the original text but even then that's not a definite no word, which doesn't exist in the language.
Nodoka and Yue themselves confirmed that Negi's feelings for Asuna and Eva were mostly fraternal love and respect, and at this point no one doubts that.
Asuna always had the big sister role and she herself confirmed she wasn't his favorite in this topic.
Eva was always Negi's mentor in his PoV, and Negi was always a Nagi proxy for her (just like any Nagi friend).
Then we only had Chachamaru, Yue, Nodoka and Chisame in the run.
Yue chemistry was a watered down Nodoka, never going too far and if it ever happened, she would still lose to Nodoka because Nodoka's flags were stronger and happened more often. She was never in Negi's radar, she was just Nodoka's friend-rival.
Chachamaru wouldn't ever win (at least alone) for obvious reasons, but she wouldn't ever fully lose too because she's a robot and could always be with Negi.
Then the only two left were Nodoka and Chisame, both in Negi's radar and rising flags. Nodoka's flags were stronger during Mahora, but Chisame took the lead after the school fest and it never went down again, even more during early Magic World arc, where her flags always rose and were stronger than any other, and she was always on Negi's mind and interacted with him more.
>Chachamaru wouldn't ever win (at least alone) for obvious reasons, but she wouldn't ever fully lose too because she's a robot and could always be with Negi.
Bah. Lies and slander. Chachamaru not winning the Negi is a crime. He's not even a human nor is he capable of having children anymore when all's said and done, he doesn't need a human girl.
She didn't complete rejected him.
Forget the "five years", there's even the
>are you alright with this? His next confession might not be tou again
>that's what I want
So she still considers herself there, but put Negi and his maturity in the first place.
It does make sense when you break it down, still all I want is more. I loved the more serious parts of Negima, but the return to antics at the very end of it made me want it to go on forever. The ending of Angel Densetsu made me feel that way too, especially with that thing the author wrote about the characters having a life of their own at that point.
If they were sisters it'd also be strange to start such a response with "no."
It's harder to believe they're sisters given Asuna's time spent in stasis. There's zero evidence Arika is 100+ years old.
This. Chachamaru was clearly a top tier contendant that got sidelined due to Naru-lookalike bias and nepotism.
I know where you're coming from and want the same, but I just don't want to stay delusional forever.
Chachamaru was always made to be a default loser and winner at the same time with the immortality flag, because the others either never got enough development (ghost, demons) or were already in another bowl since forever (Eve).
You guys are all forgetting the true top contender.
Depending on how you want to interpret him he is either incapable of love entirely or he is still hung up on Luna's sister's death even after 80 years.
He also dies in the movie, but who knows if Ken would've implemented elements of it in the manga had it continued normally.
Either way it's not going to happen.
Considering they're demi-humans they might actually still be around and we'll see them once they inevitably go to the Magic World.
I hope Cosmo Entelecheia as a whole returns, as they are technically still alive as well.
And I loved Dynamis. The man was a riot.
Chachamaru didn't just get forced into Main Event status, she had to put in a fair amount of work to ascend from glorified extra through being Eva's sidekick. If anything for a lot of her focus chapters Chisame was HER Yue! It's freaking outrageous that she was relegated to Forever Second Place when she had the most effort put into making her and KEEPING her romantically relevant over the course of the manga.
>he is either incapable of love entirely or he is still hung up on Luna's sister's death even after 80 years.
I was being facetious but you're retarded if you think either of these things.
>Finally the answer
>verything you've always wished for
>but she rejects him, nothing happens, status quo unchanged, negi broken, no hijinks, not even a slight little romance moment
Why does Ken have to ruin every single thing he had left to touch?
Seriously what the fuck? This is some George Lucas level shit.
I hate stories that have a large cast then break them up at the end, just feels cruel to forcefully separate them all after their years of adventure, more so when many clearly still show interest in similar activities.
Hey she definitely made the semi finals anon thats more than a lot of girls get
Chisame, Chachamaru, and
Fate were the most likely it seemed to me
Nodoka, Yui, and Fei were second stringers
MIA ever since Fate joined Negi's harem
To be fair didn't Nagi bag the princess before he met Eva?
Setsuna was my favorite character. Akamatsu kept playing with my heart by raising minor flags for her with Negi even though she was clearly already waifu'd from her first story arc. Luckily I learned to root for Best Robot and could just appreciate her being a badass half-demon asskicker.
Yeah she had a decent love score too from the weasel iirc
I hope Negima gets axed. Akamatsu hasn't worked on UQ Holder for over a year now
>draws a series for a new generation of readers
>takes place in the same universe with numerous head nods that older fans can enjoy
>becomes a literal prostitute
>starts jerking off overgrown manchildren with disposable income
>alienates the original target demographic
A hack to rule all hacks.
He actually mentions in an interview that he made more male characters for UQ to attract more female readers. Ken doesn't seem to realize you need to actually give them focus to accomplish that.
Also, still waiting.
No? Negi didn't defeat the lifemaker during that year Negima takes place in. The epilogue tells us it was years later.
As for Holder, they fight the lifemaker like 60 years after that, which is when she takes Negi, so it's unrelated. By that point in the good end timeline, she's been defeated for good decades before.
>touta is basically Negi and Asunas magic baby
We all know who the real winner is
Asuna is his loving onee-san and they work best like that.
Their bastard child's existence is not only disturbing, but cheapens Asuna and Negi both.
Ken certainly didn't pull a creative muscle when he went deep into his box of oldest shounen clichés known to man and came up with Clonoe Touta.
In Chao's timeline, Negi presumably never becomes an immortal monster. He ends up with someone and eventually Chao is born as his descendant. We'll likely never know who, but it's whoever was in Chao's book.
In the main timeline, Negi can't have children. It's unknown if he ever ended up with anyone in any capacity, and honestly, he's going to die during Holder.
In the good end timeline, he still can't have children, and we're seeing him get rejected, but I guess we'll see if he ends up with someone later on. Though Chisame becomes a hikki.
I mean hes just a negi clone with asuna magic mixed in since its kind of the most important magic in existence so its not really that bad
I thought they didnt specify why they call him grand son considering hes just the umpteenth time they tried making a clone and it finally worked. If hes a copy of a copy whos the first copy
Either way I just wanter an excuse to say that Asuna is best girl.
I used to be able to visit these threads without having read that stupid shota wizard manga. Hell, I used to be able to read UQH without needing to know about that stupid shota wizard manga. You guys think this shit is gonna eventually end or just keep going like how Gintama is now?
>It was apparent from the very first chapter.
Please get your head out of your ass and stop being a fanboy. It'd clearly have some negima stuff but it wasn't supposed to be focused on negima stuff. It was a standalone that didn't require prior knowledge. And it stayed that way for a huge chunk of chapters.
The first fucking page is Yukihime turning her back on the entire negima cast and walking forward towards a new story.
That's not true, that's never been stated. He's the first successful clone that can use both Negi and Asuna's power.
They probably just use the term grandchild because it realistically makes sense when you take into account how many years have passed. Remember that at first Eva was hiding the truth from him.
so, by the end, what happened to that ferret again? Can't remember
To be fair, it's never been specified if he's actually grown or is using aging magic (like Fate and Eva).
For example, why did Fate's spell to separate Negi from the LM have them all as kids? Those are Eva and Fate's true forms so perhaps it's Negi's as well?
>In the decade since the world became aware of the existence of magic, the world has undergone massive upheaval. However, a boy named Tōta lives in seclusion in a rural town far removed from these changes. His ordinary life is highlighted by his magic-using female teacher and his supportive friends. When his tranquil daily life is disrupted, he embarks on a unique adventure.
Literally the description it launched with dude. I think I'm well within normal levels of tardation.
It's not confirmed, just implied that they are second generation clones, hence grandchildren.
Same reason she's a girl and Touta has black hair.
Yeah but in the first few chapters its bringing negi stuff up with the towers so its clear the story is going to go there at some point or another. Theres no way they are going to bring the characters to the monument of negis efforts and not draw it into the story.
So its intentionally ambiguous, though I'm leaning towards the age explanation since they said he was the first successful clone if I read it right. It wouldn't make sense to clone the failures.
I never said it would/should be devoid of stuff from the previous work. But you gotta admit there was a tonal shift where it back UQ Holder with Negima callbacks and characters, to Negima with UQ Holder characters.
I could understand it just fine until about 100 chapters in.
>He actually mentions in an interview that he made more male characters for UQ to attract more female readers.
While alienating male readers. Bravo.
Fairy Tail actually managed to attract both.
>Build space ships and fly to a magical world to fight some galactical space war that will determine the fate of humanity in jus 5 years
So this is what man can achieve when they abandon woman.
>I never said
Arent you the person complaining about even seeing it in
But I will agree there have been major tonal shifts but that wasnt the first one. One of the biggest points I felt the tone went permanentely in another direction was pic related
Sorry my understanding of time is a bit... weird at best.
are there 2 timelines?
because if asuna goes back in time then it's already happened.
Or is this world working on a different concept of how time works?
>Arent you the person complaining about even seeing it in
About Negima? I tried reading it and it was really boring for me. I got like 5 volumes in. I only started into UQ Holder because I'm a huge faggot for manga where a central theme is immortality like pic related.
>One of the biggest points I felt the tone went permanentely in another direction was pic related
True, but that arc wasn't nearly as long. And it's a little different, as a writer, than just falling back onto your old characters, plots, and relationships.
You assume those timelines are related to already existing timelines.
Where it could just be that this timeline is forged and bent by the clones simply existing, while even bending the accessible past timeline a bit out of shape (in form of a split-off).
Shit man thats really not far in considering how short chapters are. Look if harem antics arent your thing people generally agree the series picks up a little bit in but its pretty good. The festival is pretty intense and the series does a good job building on itself. Id really reccomend giving it another shot. But yeah I'm just saying the tone has shifted a few times like again when touta learns hes a clone
There are a few different time theories
1) everything that happens will happen, as in fate exists and you cant change it.
ex. you go back in time and try to kill someone who didn't die, every attempt will fail, think the revolver scene from final destination where every bullet wound did not fire but the moment it's not pointed at your head it does.
2) parallel worlds, you aren't necessarily going back in time, you are just going to a different universe that started X monet's before or after your current one, in this one fate does not exist so you could kill someone who didn't die in yours
3) everything happens at once, lets say in the year 3000 time travel is found and someone comes back in time to 2000, then they were always there, from the 'first' time 2000 happens, this allows you keep doing shit and allows for paradoxes to exist
negima, in the school festival arc saw 3 being how time travel worked, everything happened at once.
Did they change how the world works?
Go go into this a little more what ends up making negima good is that it builds its character personalities up like your normal harem antics and then takes that development to put them in more battle adventure shonen situations so when the shonen business starts it doesnt feel like you are being dumped into this series where you have to learn the cast, you already know the cast and they are about to go on an adventure of sorts.
It should be obvious he meant he wanted more female readers in addition to the male readers. In that same interview he talks about how the girls have to always be cute. And as UQ progressed he put more spotlight on the girls and even made Touta's bro one of them, too. The point was he wanted to use the male characters to attract a wider audience but fails to even utilize them.
Im just saying its less than 50 chapters that per chapter are pretty short. I'd reccomend giving it another shot and getting into the school festival. It really starts to flesh out characters and find a direction. Negi is also a neat protagonist because while he does have the whole son of this super dude and also boy genius thing going on they make it clear he works hard for everything he has. Plus magic kung fu with spell incantations and spell circles is just cool as it gets.
It's there but not really popular. Also Negima at its peak of fan content was before Fate came in with his subtext.
UQ anime might bring in some fujos.
>Plus magic kung fu with spell incantations and spell circles is just cool as it gets.
I miss that shit.
These days everything's Magia Erebea and spamming elemental weapon projectiles.
Magical theory and world-building has long gone out the window.
Don't mind me, just posting one of the dozens reasons why UQH will never top Negima.
Negima is one of my favorite manga in existence but Pactios were one of the few things I hated. They were trash.
They promote shitty harem elements and provided people with broken artifacts instantly and for no work at all.