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Fate Apocrypha

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Evil Cat
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is cute
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>>159649011
And sexy!
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The cutest!
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Would you accept it?
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>>159648886
She just wants to save the children.

Won't anyone think of the children?
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>cutie
>kinda not flat
>likes to get praised
>wears actual armor
It's a good day to be an armorfag. Truly /my(wo)man/.
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Thread was already made
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>>159648664
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>>159649405
That threat is full of degeneracy.
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I'm currently on Day 13 of the Fate route of the original (i.e. NOT Realta Nua) and I'm enjoying it pretty well except for that tsundere slut Rin.
Convince me to watch Aprocrypha.
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>>159649475
You shouldn't watch it.

You will maybe enjoy yourself for a while, but soon all your hopes will turn to ashes because of how bad it gets.
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>>159649260
Of course.
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>>159649405
Use better images when you're making threads.
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Why didn't Clocktower just send Bazett like they did in Fate/Stay?
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>>159649756
Why does Jannu dress like a slut? Her entire side boob is visible.
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>>159649845
She is a slut.
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>>159649845
Because her body and clothes belong to a Catholic schoolgirl.
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I was looking through the character designer's twitter and was he originally supposed to be kuudere or something?
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Is there a sub group yet?
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>they're not going to make it to the end
Should I drop this now?
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>>159649782
Maybe she is dead. She wasnt's so OP in FHA, even assassin killed her. She actually sucked in fights until she and avenger start to cooperate. So maybe she was already killed by Vlad, or she was killed inminor wars.
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>>159650181
They actually do make it all the way to the last battle at least.
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>>159650181
But they die in volume 5 which is the last one, so you'd miss a lot.
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>>159650234
>So maybe she was already killed by Vlad, or she was killed inminor wars.
Don't say that.
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>>159650335
>>159650393
Alright fine, I'll stick around.
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are they gonna adapt all the 5 vol?
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>>159650518
They have 25 episode so yeah. No reason not to.
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Wait I thought UTW threw in the towel after ubw, wat the fuck guys
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>>159650518
Of course not, why they would do that?
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>>159650593
They returned because Netflix can't into anime.
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>>159648886
FUCK OFF /VE/ GENERAL CHECK THE LIST BEFORE MAKING A NEW SHIT THREAD
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Mordred fucks pigs, pass it on.
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Reminder that wanting to fuck or be fucked by a cute trap is perfectly straight.
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>>159650794
Cuter than what her dad fucked
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>>159650866
They will just pass the husband around.
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>>159649260
She's not going to make it, is she? She must be too cute for this world.
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>>159650234
>she actually sucked in fights
Against servants, sure, but basically no human can fight servants (except for very strong people against ones like Angra Mainyu)
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>>159648886
>image spamming
Are you retarded?
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>>159649092
What's wrong with her spine?
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>>159651043
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>>159651106
Shirou is a "human" with a reality marble and the ability to become Siegfried tier in swordsmanship (if not base stats and abilities) simply by tracing Balmung, and even that fight depended a lot on Gilgamesh playing his cards like an absolute retard. For one, why didn't he just float in the air?
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>>159650999
Just believe
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>>159648886
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>>159650849
Is it really a trap if he isn't trying to hide it or fool people?
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>>159650999
Anon, you know how this is going to end.
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>>159648886
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>>159651142
The problem is Gil has been wanked so hard at this point, there are a dozen ways he could have won that fight without even touching Ea.
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>>159651244
This is literally all Victor's fault
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>>159651312
Gilgamesh should've just pulled out the Original Hangman's Noose and slung it around Shirou's neck to instantly kill him
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>>159648886
>>>/vg/
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>>159650794
>tfw Mordred will never mofu mofu you
What a terrible reality to live in.
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>>159651106
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>>159651312
Gil has always, always, ALWAYS, been portrayed as an arrogant prick who never uses his powers properly because he's just that full of himself.

UBW is a hard counter to Gate of Babylong.

Him losing to Shirou shouldn't be much of a surprise.
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>>159651735
KIMI WA
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>>159651091
Cats have very flexible spines
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>>159648886
did /a/ become /vg/?
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>>159651775
NAMAI WA
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>>159651773
Except UBW has problems tracing things that aren't swords, even more problem tracing things that aren't weapons, and Gilgamesh has loads of shit that aren't weapons now. Like a spaceship.
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>>159648886
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>>159648886
Evil my ass. I want to beach the cat.
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>>159652145
How does a man get that plump a butt?
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>>159652312
Being a Heroic Spirit has its benefits
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What is it about her that makes her the cutest?
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>>159649260
Was this from the episode? I don't remember this scene.
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Slay the gay.
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>>159652525
Frankenmoe
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How do I get into the Fate/Stay series?
Do I start with the original, 2006 anime?
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>>159648886
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>>159652747
If you don't want to read the VN, sure
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>>159648886
fuck off retarded general
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>>159652747
Read the VN or don't waste your time and watch the UBW Anime.
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>>159652897
Nah
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>>159648886
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>>159651244
as soon as these words were uttered she was guaranteed to die

they could've been a little more subtle about this
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>>159651735

Why is Astolfo's tooth flesh-colored?
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>>159653160
Because is MOE
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>>159653140
>>159653170
>This is a boy
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
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>>159653260
Will the trap going to have "romantic" feelings and cute moments with MC-kun in this adaptation?
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>>159653353
>WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

because is cute, duh.
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>>159653533
HNNNNNNNNNNNNGGH!!!

They can be more cute? I doubt it.
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>>159653570
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>>159653355
is that a joke? LN is full of fujo bait, A-1 loves homo.
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>>159653599
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>>159648886
and dead
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>>159653642
I just wanted to confirm it m8.
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Mordred's personality makes her pretty cute.
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Friendly reminder that Shinji did nothing wrong.
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>>159653353
Trap has much more chemical and time with MC than Jannu
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>>159653910
you mean chemistry
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>>159653355
>>159653642
>>159653763
They are the same kind of baits we saw in Hibike! Euphonium
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Berserker is literally the cutest girl in the world, I don't think my heart can take seeing her die.
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Modoreddo is very cute.
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>>159654057
no, chemical.
like my chemical romance.
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>>159654085
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More cat
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>>159653664
My wish is to be fucked by Astolfo.
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>>159654085
And what does the MC thinks of Astolfo?

Does he gets embarassed or it's oblivious at his flirting attempts?
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>>159653353
Why the fuck does he act like a hyperactive moeblob? Why does he have ribbons on his hair? WHY IS HE SO PINK?
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>>159654263
It's what sells.
Because he wants to be cute. He doesn't care about gender shit, he just wants to be cute.
See above.
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Can someone spoil this shit for me? I can't find good spoilers on the internets.
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>>159654263
A typical genki girl
>>159654229
Sieg like Kumiko and Astolfo like Reina's genki version

genki
basically a pure friendship like Reina and Kumiko
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>>159654449
Everyone dies, the end.
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>>159654501
But really though.
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>>159653909
Shinji awakens the edginess in Shirou.
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>>159648886
Something, something, something the cat.
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>>159654173
Jeanne being jealous of him talking to Astolfo and always acting like a kyoani schoolgirl
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>>159654391
>he just wants to be cute.
I like this man.
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>>159654565
It's a Fate series. If everyone doesn't die, it's 90% of them who die.
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>>159651043
> but basically no human can fight servants
>shiki SHIKI shiki
>various halfies like Akiha or DA
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>>159654662
His Valentine's gift depends on if you see him as a boy or girl. If you pick girl, Astolfo gives you some chocolate shaped like bunnies. If you pick boy, he gives you a 1:1 stuffed replica of his hippogriff.
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>>159654229
>ist just a cute friendship between two boys
fujofags and yurifags see the world in a different way
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Sure is a lot of girl (boy) posting in here. Needs more boy (girl) posting.
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Can someone please post the gif of Astolfo getting lewded by his master? I need it for scientific purpose.
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>>159651909
He was goaded in a dick measuring contest and lost. Simple
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>>159657020
I never said Gilgamesh losing was bullshit, I'm just pointing out that with all the extra shit in GoB, UBW is no longer a hard counter to it.

>>159654758
DAs aren't human they're literally the archenemy of humans, and only DAAs stand an appreciable chance against legitimate Servants anyway even with their attack bonus.
Akiha isn't a human, she's a 'halfie'.
Shiki, SHIKI, Shiki, and Shiki canonically have a hell of a time trying to deal with Servants even if they can theoretically stop them, inb4 you post that one page.
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>>159654263
He is based on a dude who convincingly crossdressed in order to get his friend to stop being emo, And afterwords they go and fuck some bitches
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>>159657640
Sounds like s true bro
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>>159657494
>I never said Gilgamesh losing was bullshit, I'm just pointing out that with all the extra shit in GoB, UBW is no longer a hard counter to it.

No it still is, pulling out Vianna doesn't actually help you very much. Not very many things do, GoB has to be on full sword mode to try and keep up with UBW or goldie gets skewered.
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>>159657659
Or he could put on his armor. Remember, Shirou was charging into close combat because that's his only advantage, UBW isn't at an overwhelming advantage against GoB, it simply neutralizes it and allows you to get close to Gilgamesh without eating Vajra, Samson's Assbone, Balmung, and Houtengeki to the face in a split second.
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>>159657724
The armour isn't infallible and swords can still fly into his face where he has no protection.

Shirou charges into close combat because that's what he can do at the time. There's a reason Goldie wouldn't want to take a fight with EMIYA.
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>>159657724
His head's still unprotected
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>>159657756
Dude Hades' Cap lmao
Dude (one of the trillion famous helmets in mythology, but even stronger) lmao
My point is that originally, since the GoB held mostly weapons (and bladed weapons, at that), UBW was a very strong counter to it, as UBW almost effortlessly copies anything that's close to a sword, and probably a spear too (sword-on-a-stick). But UBW canonically has trouble copying anything that isn't a sword, and more trouble copying anything that isn't a weapon. UBW isn't as strong simply because Gilgamesh now has more options than swords, scythes, and spears.
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>>159657823
He literally always did and it never mattered. Gilfags in denial.
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>>159657949
>he literally always did
I'm pretty sure Viamma and what the fuck his Walk-on-Air NP is didn't exist in FSN. Hades' Cap makes him essentially undetectable, and while he's not worth shit as a swordsman, he's able to activate NPs to some extent. Gilgamesh always loses because using any of that would require tactical thinking, but the point is that in FSN, Gilgamesh lost more or less as soon as he was inside UBW without Ea out, it was a matter of how long he could last. Now, with all his other shit? I'm not sure.
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>>159658090
I'm sure. you know what you don't actually have in a fight? time to sit around and set up a whole bunch of shit.
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>>159650794
Time to remodel her shitbox.
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>>159658090
Gil would've easily won if he just used Ea. But his "muh zashus not worthy of muh swordfu" meant he didn't use the weapon he was familiar with and he lost like a retard.
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>>159657494
Reminder that Shiki is a servant now.
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>>159658385
The point is that he doesn't have time to take it out once he's in UBW, since Ea apparently takes a good long time to take out.

>>159658208
The Cap doesn't need to be set up, only put on.
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>>159657494
I still stand that halfies can be considered humans in a sense that they are firmly anchored in a world and are part of it, unlike servants and familiars. And surely Kishima and Akiha and the likes can take on average servant.
Also SUGOI SUGOI.
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>>159658466
Time to take out AND charge up, don't forget. Unlike with Rider's RM, UBW easily lets Shirou close the distance between them, making Ea all but useless.
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>>159658503
I think part of the problem is we don't know what an 'average' servant actually looks like. Literally everyone in FSN and FZ are supposed to be significantly above average, except for Angra, who is the worst servant bar none. Is Robin Hood "average"?
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>>159658516
UBW doesn't let Shirou close distance any easier than normal, although I do wonder - why the fuck does Iskandar start so far away in Ionian, just to look cool?
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>>159658518
>I think part of the problem is we don't know what an 'average' servant actually looks like. Literally everyone in FSN and FZ are supposed to be significantly above average

FSN assasins are epitome of average, rider fares a bit better. FZ has Diarmud - but bastard has nothing going on about him.
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>>159658645
Hassans are irrelevant though, because the way Hassan works is that he's not actually meant to fight Servants at all. Hassan's powerlevel is kind of like Caster's (not Medea mind), since most Casters have some ridiculous setup boosts if you give them time to toil away in their workshop.
Diarmuid isn't really an average lancer, Cu is just one of the best.
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>>159658699
>because the way Hassan works is that he's not actually meant to fight Servants at all
No, they are nothing special even compared to other assassins, like invisible instakill from Extra.

>Diarmuid isn't really an average lancer, Cu is just one of the best.
He has nothing special going on for him, and yes, he may be even worse than average. He doesn't even have a trump card. Try compare him to the likes of Karna or Vlad.
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>Call it Frankenstein
>is Frankenstein's monster
This is going to annoy me for the entire season, i'm glad they thew in that death flag super early
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>>159658901
Li Shuwen, Karna, and Vlad are all top tier though, that's the problem.

>>159658945
She's mad literally because she isn't Victor Frankenstein (or rather, isn't Fran Frankenstein because Victor is a faggot).
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>>159659028
>Li Shuwen, Karna, and Vlad are all top tier though, that's the problem.
What problem?
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>>159659083
You can't use the best of the best to judge the level of non-best-of-the-best. It's like saying Li Shuwen is a shit Assassin because he's not King Hassan.
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>>159659105
We were shown jobbers, we where shown top ones. Ones who are neither can be considered average. Its not like there is some poll "the averagest" or something.
Diarmud is nothing special, therefore average. He will likely lose to any of the b-tier servants in fgo

Also FSN fake assassin is c-tier in fgo.
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>>159659225
>b-tier
>c-tier
What the actual fuck are you on about? Star count? Star count canonically has nothing to do with strength, it's about rarity in the gatcha.
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>>159652838
What is the theme of that picture.
It just looks like a random mishmash of servants to me
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>>159659294
Memes aside, Kojirou is kind of middling in game. There are real good Servants in his category, but he's not one of them.
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>>159659477
The Servants Caster Gilgamesh summoned to help him defends Uruk against Tiamat
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>>159659754
Ah, alright. Thanks for the answer anon
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>>159650849
>draw a literal female, zero boyish features
>give it a fang
>cringe personality

Is Astolpho the ultimate indicator of shite taste?
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I'm not really educated on Fate, so I was hoping you guys could clear something up.
Initially, I didn't realize Vlad was a servant, due to the command he demonstrated. I thought he was Darnic's father, superior or something along the lines, but apparently, Darnic's simply a huge beta who's pouring his servant wine.
So, who's Avicebron's master? Darnic said his skill-set was far more suited to long-winded preparation than on-the-spot engagements, thus why he had been toiling in secret for Yggdimillennia for 60 years. Doesn't that mean Darnic would have summoned him, as he stopped the aging process, and would've been the only one capable of using him?
Can you get dual-servants? My conclusion is that either it's someone else entirely (maybe the kid with aging halted), Darnic was using the magic from the homunculi to maintain him.
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>>159660073
Where did you get 60 years from? He was summoned 2 months before the war.
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>>159660073
>Flashback shows him to be a normal Arabic guy
>Summoned as a purple puppet-ass motherfucker
What happened?
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>>159660219
/fa/ not even once.
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>>159660164
Well, they never specified how long Avec had been around for in episode 1, and they managed to set up an entire Homunculi operation and golem army.
I'd thought Darnic, having a clear-cut motive and wanting to use his time wisely, would act promptly. 60 Years seems a bit over-the-top, but that's how long ago he disappeared, so it seemed like a basic connection to me. Them setting all that stuff up in two months sounds ridiculous.
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>>159660249
They can build a lot of stuff on their own. They aren't totally beholden to him for all their magical needs anon.
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I want to watch Illya 3rei but I can't find any downloads for the BDs with all the specials. Can anyone who's seen it suggest a good group or help me out?
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>>159660273
Makes sense, I guess. With only two months passed his Master could be anyone.
Though desu I think they should've stated how long he'd been around for. It stuck out like a pretty simply connection to make for me, and Darnic horsing around without a servant for 59 years and 10 months doesn't really make him seem as scheming and intelligent.
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Spoil me, what does Shiro want in the end?
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>>159649475
Why are you posting this blogshit in multiple threads?
>>159649399
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>>159651244
Whose blueprints? Victors? is that what was used as a catalyst?
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>>159660653
To bring salvation to mankind by reaching the Root via hacking the Greater Grail in order to make us all immortal, spiritual beings who are literally incapable of committing evil.
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>>159660653
Instrumentality except we keep our bodies and all evil thoughts get purged from our minds by him killing Angra Mainyu via grailhacks
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>>159660696
And his goal is bad because?
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>>159660653
Save humanity. Everlasting peace and bliss for everyone. God literally says that he's right and that he wishing for that would be the best outcome EVER.

Then Jeanne and Sieg say "No you can't do that because humans should find their own happiness" while forgetting the fact that they aren't human themselves and then Shirou loses for reasons. Last but not least Higashide then rip-offs Last Episode by making Sieg fuck off with the Grail to not-Avalon and a gorillion of years later Jeanne manages to get there too and they live happily forever together. The end.
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>>159651909
Sure but UBW can project swords at a fucking insane rate and the only limit is the user's prana capacity.

Gil was fucked as soon as UBW materialised around him. GoB is slower than UBW in providing weapons and items such as his Spaceship or Ea take even longer to pull out.

Once Shirou started swordspamming all Gil could do was act defensively and try and counter the swordspam and then hope Shirou runs out of prana before killing him, which is exactly what happens.
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>>159660718
He'd essentially be performing a spiritual lobotomy on us as a species by doing it.

Also the timeline would get nuked out of existence by higher powers but that lore only got revealed last year with Extella.
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>>159660760
t. Jeanne and Sieg

>Also the timeline would get nuked out of existence by higher powers but that lore only got revealed last year with Extella.
That's irrelevant to the point.
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>>159660718
It's less about his goal being bad and more about his goal being something people disagree with - for one, he gets to define "evil".
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>>159660742
What so he just keeps the grail instead of use it?
What a selfish faggot
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>>159660824
Better to live free in Hell than serve as a slave in Heaven, Christcuck.
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Atlanta is one of the cutest and sexiest servants and its a fucking crime that Japan has not given us doujins of her yet.
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https://twitter.com/aiyoriakashi/status/884729403703402496
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>>159660914
She's had about twelve, they just didn't get scanned.
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>>159660914
https://exhentai.org/g/869210/2ad153be10/
This is all that is scanned.
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>>159660950
WHAT?

Great. Now I feel blueballed as fuck.
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>>159660903
Not him but I hope you realize Lucifer says that to convince himself, not anyone else, because he's too proud to admit he dun goof even if he knows it.

>>159660950
Doujin artists really need to release online. I wouldn't even mind buying if there were some centralized place you could purchase digital versions of doujins from.
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>>159660983
Welcome to my hell as a fan of Cu.

Literally hundreds of doujins I'll never get to see.
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>>159660914
Easy slut in denial, just like her fags.
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>>159660718
The two premises underlying his actions are that 1.) the fundamental nature of humanity is disposed towards evil rather than evil deeds simply being a result of circumstances/moments of weakness and that 2.) he would be able to change the fundamental nature of humanity via the Greater Grail in a way with no long-term negative ramifications.

If either of these premises is false, then his actions could potentially bring about the downfall of humanity.
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Atalanta, Semiramis, Jeanne and Mordred are all really cute

Apocrypha gave us some nice waifubait
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>>159661012
>slut
>her fags
So it has come to this.
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>>159661034
Watch as all the doujins are of Mordred and Jeanne and none of Atalanta and Semiramis
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>>159661034
Great taste.
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>>159661004
>Not him but I hope you realize Lucifer says that to convince himself, not anyone else, because he's too proud to admit he dun goof even if he knows it
Nice damage control
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>>159651351
What class would Original Hangman can be summoned at?

Would we get an Angry Manjew version or an entity like Famine, except it causes depression and guilt against enemy servants until they decide to hang themselves?
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>>159661122
Huh?

>>159661137
I don't think it would count as anything really. Even Manjew is only strong because he basically wishes upon the holy grail to end the world, the hangman would just wish upon the holy grail to end it all and he'd just, well, die.
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>>159661122
Exactly. Glad you understand. Lucifer saying that is damage control.
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>>159660073
>Darnic's simply a huge beta who's pouring his servant wine.
>Not showing Vlad the proper respect he deserves
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>>159660890
Fucking Dragons man, I bet if Dragons exists today, they'd be Otakus hoarding their waifu's merch and their waifu's anime get new seasons and spinoffs every season.
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>>159660073
Avicebron's Master is the kid that follows him around, who is also studying golems.

Darnic summoned Vlad because Vlad is the strongest Servant he had access to, and much of his plans bet on Vlad being invincible in Romania, as Vlad gets the max fame boost possible in there, and being King gives him even more of a boost.

And plus, even if Vlad isn't a vampire, he is still the Impaler. You don't want to piss him off and end up like Tokiomi with Gilgamesh. If you summon a Servant with an ego, you better keep it in mind.
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>>159661332
>You don't want to piss him off and end up like Tokiomi with Gilgamesh
I guess darnic could have been a better master for gil than tokiomi
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A Cat is for life, not just for christmas.
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>>159660742
So Jeanne defies God whom she has devoted herself to her entire life?
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>>159661450
Pretty much. Higashide wanted to make a Saints vs God kind of thing despite how fucking retarded it is. Remember that Amakusa is a Saint too.

People really aren't joking about Apocrypha shitting the bed HARD when Sieg becomes the focus character feat Jannu and Astolfo.
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>>159660890
DRAGON DICK
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>>159661450
There's likely a lot of context missing here since volume 5 is not translated and no one can verify this guy.
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>all this Atalanta posting

Achillies pls.
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>>159661492
That sounds pretty awful. Never a fan of works which brings God into things and then then making him "evil".
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>>159660742
>and a gorillion of years later Jeanne manages to get there too and they live happily forever together. The end.

So humans can't be immortal in a new heaven because it's bad, but Jeanne and Sieg beaing immortal in not-Avalon and fucking each other is ok?
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>>159661332
>>159660073
>if Vlad isn't a vampire, he is still the Impaler. You don't want to piss him off and end up like Tokiomi with Gilgamesh. If you summon a Servant with an ego, you better keep it in mind.

Apocrypha Vlad can conjure stakes in his territory, including the everyone inside it. On his fight against Karna, he summoned tiny stakes inside Karna flesh to penetrate his heart to bypass his impenetrable skin. You don't want to disrespect a servant who can magically conjure stakes inside your balls, do you?
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How does Atalanta die?
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>>159662175
Mercy killed by Achillies who also dies
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>Siegfried has the same VA as EMIYA
>Darnic is basically a more faggot Tokiomi
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>>159662074
>>159662093
>believing an anon without a source
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What exactly does Astolfo ride to make him a Rider? If you catch my drift
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The OP and ED is fucking shit
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>>159662309
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>>159662333
ED is nice though
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>>159662263
Darnic has Viral's VA
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>>159662309
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>>159662273
>>159661625
>Being EOP
Pretty sad
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>>159662309
800 women while pondering why his wife cheats on him.

Rider Roland also get a FREE Astolfo
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How does Vlad die?
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>>159660718
muh free will.
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>>159662547
Darnic forces him to turn into Dracula but he forgot that Dracula is weak against Holy shit and there are two saints in this war
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>>159662547
Darnic forced him to become Dracula and then fuses himself with him and then everyone who could nuke Dracula goes retarded and does nothing and Jannu comes and saves the day because Jannu da best and the only one who can counter him with her holy stuff.
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>>159662641
It's Amakusa who kills him though
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>>159662547
In a way fitting for the Lancer-class.
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>>159662498
Then post your copy of volume 5 and translate something.
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>>159662544
>800 women
Is this canon? Is this possible?
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>>159662622
>>159662641
>>159662667
Is it sad, Vlad?
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>>159662641
kek
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>>159662641
Isn't Jannu suppose to stay neutral?
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>>159660718
It turns people into mindless husks with no free will.
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>>159662792
Dracula rampaging through Romania seems like a good reason to intervene desu. Also it's Shirou who kills him.
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Why do all lancer's have shit luck. Is there a single lancer without shit luck?
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>>159662714
Astolfo's beautiful enough to pass as a girl and is a manslut who swings both ways, going on crossdressing escapades together with Roland to get close and fuck/rape girls.
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>>159662792
she uses her ruler abilities to have both the black and red faction stop the vampire thats going on a rampage slaughtering everything in it's path (thats also the normal people not involved in the war. and magi are supposed to keep the grail wars a secret)

but it's shirou amakusa that uses his 2 stat boosting magic arms to boost his church thought baptism right magic to erase the vampire vlad.

>>159662175
jeanne destroys jack the ripper, because this version of jack is made up of millions of souls of unborn hooker babies.
atalanta has a thing for keeping children safe and she takes all those souls in herself.
only realising right after that this was a big mistake, as they corrupt her and turn her in a mindless beast.
achilles mercy kills her, but dies also doing it.
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>>159662892
leonidas?
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>>159662895
Damn, best boy.
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>>159662892
Karna.
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>>159662892
CCC Karna's master tweaked his profile page to read as "Launcher" instead of Lancer which gave him A+ Luck. He doesn't suffer much.
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>>159663095
He doesn't suffer much in Apo either. He's just sad he couldn't fight Siegfried again.
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>>159662074
I don't really mind an evil g-d as an antagonist. Apocrypha is just awful and failed to deliver.
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>>159663122
>g-d
Do you even read japanese? The last volume had the best reviews in jp while the first had the worst so I don't really believe you.
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>>159662792
Supposed is the right word.
You can't fight against the DRAGON DICK though.
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>>159663186
>I'll trust the Japanese reviews that I don't know what they say rather than the gorillions anons who've been talking about Apocrypha and it's many failing since day 1 and whose words support themselves
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>Brothers
Aren't magi designate only one heir and others kids end up as semen bank or incubator at best?
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>>159660718
Because immortals pullulating on Earth means ever-increasing populations, means terrible hunger and depletion of Earth's ressources.
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>>159661508
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>>159663281
Gee, if only there was magic or something to solve those issues.
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>>159663276
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>>159663116
Getting cucked when using Vasavi Shakti for the first time due to convenient plot bs can't feel nice.
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>>159663326
has there ever been shown in fate magic to makes food apear out of thin air?
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>>159663357
He wanted to lose though. He was only helping Shirou so his master would survive.
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>>159663326
>Solving Earth becoming a barren wasteworld unfit for life (besides the immortals)

T-thanks Shiro.
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>>159663326
The only magic that can make something from nothing is Shirou's projection (and he is taking material from UBW).

What Shirou does is considered 100% heretical by the Mages Association and they would issue the most harsh sealing designation on him if they ever found out.
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>>159663269
I'll trust the verified reviews of actual nips over a random anon who can claim any shit they want despite not knowing a lick of japanese or owning the book.
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>>159663366
>Everyone summons Gil because Heroic spirits are copies of beings from thrones of heroes
>Force him to share his finest bread and wine in his treasury
>repeat Holy Gil Wars for unlimited food and wine supply.
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>>159663480
why is it heretic?
are they jelly they can't do it?

>>159663276
depends on the family
the matou where desperate because kariya ran away and his brother can't even do magic.
so tokiomi was asked to give one of his daughters to the matou. and he did as rin was his heir.

as for apro
the black faction has a brother and sister on the team (wheelchair girl and glasses kid)
wheelchair girl is far stronger, but her legs are fucked up, and healing it would require removing her magic circuits from her legs. while the brother is a weak mage, that only did magic because he was pretty much forced to do by darnic their uncle)
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>>159663582
>Gil
>sharing
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>>159663582
if it's the caster version of gil.
then no problem
but the archer version would require a command seal every time. because he is a dick that doesn't think mere humans are worthy enough
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>>159663635
>why is it heretic?
producing copies of swords of legends out of thin air for FREE is rule breaking, not to mention sword autist also has a reality marble, his own world separate from reality.
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>>159663635
Having an RM is pretty much a guaranteed Sealing Designation from the Association.
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>>159663863
>>159663903
but why are they butthurt that he produces shit out of thin air?
why is there a rule against that?
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>>159664055
Because he could potentially go Excaliblasting people in the street or something. Better to kill him and study his powers later.
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>>159664055
>wanting someone who can freely trace and fire Caladbolgs as broken phantasm and potentially get mindwiped to do the bidding of evil organizations to run free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfTGkrSSpZA
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>>159663635
>the black faction has a brother and sister on the team (wheelchair girl and glasses kid)
Are you braindead? Its explicitly stated why. I'm asking about pentel brothers.
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>>159664415
there is no info on them
only that they and the other red masters (besides mordred's master)
all get their servants taken away by shirou who takes their command seals

karna is the only servant that knows this and still tries to undermine shirou even with command seals against him.
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>>159663366
When will Mordred get the headpat and hug she deserves?
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>>159664573
never because seibah is an autistic shitty parent
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>>159664628
Saber never asked for it. Morgana is the terrible parent. Just look at how Mordy and Agravain turned out.
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>>159661332
>Avicebron's Master is the kid that follows him around, who is also studying golems.

Neato thanks, I figured as much, just my being wrong about Avic being around for the full 60 years threw me.

>Darnic summoned Vlad because Vlad is the strongest Servant he had access to, and much of his plans bet on Vlad being invincible in Romania, as Vlad gets the max fame boost possible in there, and being King gives him even more of a boost.

Didn't know fame could effect a character's power to these degrees, though. That's pretty neato
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>>159663635
>by darnic their uncle
>uncle
H-how old are they?
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>>159664875
19/18. Darnic is over 100.
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>>159665073
That's kinda my point. How is he their uncle?
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>>159650632
>>159651072
>>159651164
>>159651308
>>159651398
>>159651340
>>159651830
>>159651968
>>159652070

Why the fuck have mods not banned this homo?
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>>159648886
go back to >>>/vg/ shit general
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>>159665421
nice boogeymanfag
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>>159664055
He's too stronk, it spooks those pussies from the mage association.
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>>159665177
magic
plus they might not even be blood related to him
as >>159664415 showed

>>159664573
mordred is doomed to suffer, because arturia refuses to even aknowlodge mordred.
even the way more chill Rider version of mordred who isn't angry all the time and just wants to have fun gets ignored by arturia
only saber lily likes mordred and thats a young arturia who doesn't even know who mordred is and views her more as a sister then daughter.
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>>159665742
meant acknowledge.
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>>159665607
Dont sexualise Mordy like this.

She wouldnt understand. It isnt fair.
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>>159664055
People fear what they dont understand.

Firstly, one of the -fundamental- rules of magic in the Nasuverse is equivalent exchange. Shirou bypassing this flies in the face of everything the clocktower knows.

Secondly, Shirou accomplishes this heracy by having a Reality Marble. To the mages in the Association, only Dead Apostle Ancestors are able to manifest these and a human doing so is near unheard of. This alone would spook them.
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>>159663635
What type of relationship do the brother and sisters have? They seem like nice people.
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>>159665607
>artist draws thighs plump enough to sink your fingers into

This is my fetish
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>>159654826
>If you pick boy, he gives you a 1:1 stuffed replica of his hippogriff.
Wow.
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>>159665742
>that GudaGuda episode 4 moment where Mordred is embarrassed to say Lily's name

So fucking cute. Nearly gave me a heart attack.
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>>159665909
wheelchair girl
is the heir to the family and a talented mage.
but her magic circuits in her legs are fucked up and that made her a crippled.
she can be healed, but that would require the removed of the magic circuits in her legs and that would weaken her magic so much she would barely even qualify as a mage after.
so she refuses to be healed and wants the grail to fix it for her without the loss of her magic.

the boy is a second fiddle that got ignored by his parents, he's only an average mage and he doesn't even care about being one.
he only joined because darnic made him.
thats also the reason why his servant (frank-chan) is one of the weakest beserkers ever.
because darnic had no use for a berserker in his plans so he made the weakest person on his team summon the weakest berserker that would be then used as a suicide bomber to try and take out or weaken an enemy servant.
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>>159665939
It's actually other way around. Girls in Japan give their chocolate to boys as valentine's day gift, and boys can give whatever they want. So in FGO all male servants give you any random shit they can find - little sphinxes, swords, arrow for Karna's neck, ROMA itself and etc.All female servants just give you a chocolate. Astolfo gives a hippogriff if you female, and chocolate if you play as a boy.
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>>159665805
but it's rider mordred
she is chill compared to saber mordred
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>>159666284
Sounds a lot better than granblue valentines
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>>159650593
A bunch of Commie and FFF devs decided to sub Apocrypha, but it would be more fun under UTW
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Do Mordred and Kairi make some friends among masters/servants on their journey? Maybe kind of like Rin and Shirou (although probably not that close friends) Or is it going to be just the two of them all the way to the end?
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>>159666284
Can I just switch for each one? I'd rather have cool shit than chocolates
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>>159668842

They end up joining with the Sieg/Jeanne/Astolfo power hour.
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>>159668842
They'll stick with the black team eventually, but not so soon.
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Is Siegfried's heavy resemblance of Arjuna the reason why karna is so obsessed about him?
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>>159669520
>Siegfried resembling Arjuna
How?
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>>159651848
"namae" you fucking EoP
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>>159669579
The way Siegfried stares at karna reminds karna of arjuna as mentioned in the manga
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>>159668842
both are supporting characters
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>>159669703
Arjuna going sumanai sounds like an hilarious view
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>>159669382
>>159669399
Thanks.
>>159669730
I'm aware of that but they seem more interesting to me than other characters.
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>>159654263
Isn't also explained that Astolfo in basically insane and that's why he behaves like that?
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Does Fiore ever ride him?
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>>159670139
hardly with those useful legs right
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>>159670139
>Master has no working legs
>summons probably the only Servant that has 4 working legs

Being Fiore is suffering.
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Strange Fake anime when? ;_;
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>>159670262
never cause ayaka a shit and we wouldn't get enough of the flat and jack show.
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>>159670262
>voiced by Shirito
hopefully never
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>>159670060
He only gets his sense of reason back when the moon is not in the sky, and then he gets scared of the crazy shit he does
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>>159670262
Is he the cutest in the show?
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>>159663480
Nice fanfiction.
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/ourgirl/
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>>159671229
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>>159665607
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>>159665607
cute
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>>159652617
Same.
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>>159671796
I dislike the Mordred bullying.
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Would Frank get along with Illya?
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for cute dates
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>>159671139
>>159671271
>>159671658
>>159671700
>>159672217
>>159672749
>>159672845
Please get taste
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Anime made this scene too tame and casual. How will it handle the gore later on if it can't even show some stabbing?
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>>159673388
Adult Marie when?
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>>159673433
Also made Celenike look more beta than she actually is
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>>159672950
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>>159659754
Man babylon was fucking nasu kino. That last act is probably the best he ever wrote.
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I'm pestering a historyfag with Typemoon Joan d'Arc
Everyone, lend me your JANNU power!
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>>159673433
It already showed stabbing though, remember the first episode battle and all the impaled people later on?
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>>159673574
poor mordred
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>>159673958
And then they censor this scene which makes me suspicious.
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Strange/Fake seems so much more interesting.
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>>159674104
That's because it's still in the middle of character introductions.
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Reminder that Astolfo is canonically a ladies' man
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>>159674104
The mere inclusion of Archer Herk is enough to make it top 5.
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>>159674494
You mean Avenger :^)
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>>159674529
I feel as if semantics into his current double classing is going to be an irrelevant conversation to have.
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>>159674474
I am not a trapfag or anything, but the thought of Astolfo dominating women is pretty hot.
He did fuck like 500 women or something
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>>159665939
>That Asterion face

I too would have such a face when sitting on an actual Griffin.
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>>159673433
it's funnier that way, like she's just a harmless thirsty fujo.
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>>159648886
Ill cat of black omen.
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>>159666284
Not necessarily true. Yes, you're right in the boy give gifts/girl give chocolate, but gender means nothing to the game whether your avatar is a male/female. If you have the servant, you get their item regardless. Hell, it's even joked about in Gawain's gift when he gives you makeup when your master is male.
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I want Amakusa x Semiramis x Shakespeare doujins
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>>159676032
You'll get Jeanne being fucked by faceless men and you'll like it.
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>>159650866
Her sister?
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>>159673787
It was.
>Caster Gil is not an asshole
>First time meeting a Beast, a fucking world ending threat
>Merlin being Merlin
>Motherfucking King Hassan slashing Tiamat
>Gil taking a shot for you and coming back inside the world of deaths as a Servant
>Gil being 100% serious and not fooling around anymore
>Tiamat destroying and killing everything left and right
>That sudden map theme change when shit hits the fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GIGQBHCRY&list=LLfwyiZqaOWqGrTnXc5Zg0Eg&index=19

It was awesome.
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JEAAAAAANNEEEEEE
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>>159676490
I refuse to like sieg.
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>>159664874
That's how OG fake assassin got so strong despite never actually existing.
Western heroes also have a weird advantage built in by design since all of those families weren't Japanese back when they made the grail which is why they don't summon random japanese heroes.
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>>159664874
Fame boost is pretty important, Cu is stated to be able to fight Arturia and Herk on equal footing if the war happens in Irland, he would also get access to more shit he had in his legends.
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Worst thing about this was that it set up Jeanne/Sieg so fast despite him barely being a month old. I could read Astolfo saw him as a friend/brother but they made it pretty explicit Jeanne was in love with a toddler.
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>>159678029
Jeanne spent her life around frenchmen that looked like Gilles. It must seem like a major improvement to her.
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>>159678218
Jeanne was a saint and had no interest in men, making her fall in love with someone with zero personality like Sieg to the point where she goes against God is stupid.
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>>159678029
>>159678283
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>>159678283
Apo Jeanne's character stereotype is quite boring and bland, She has literally zero character development and zero personality. MUH MC's dick
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>>159678283
If they had actually based any of the Jeanne's on the IRL Jeanne they'd have a far more interesting character.

Despite being an illiterate teenage girl she managed to outsmart the entire kangaroo court while making them look like complete buffoons.
She shows signs of being hyper intelligent or having amazingly good memory with one example being when after days of questioning nonstop she refused to answer a question because she had already answered it. The scribes had to go back and sort through thousands of questions to discover that they had actually asked it to her before.
She has an inexplicable talent at artillery and attack formations.
After spending time around other women trying to talk about boys with her she decides she has no time for bitches when there's englishmen to defeat.
The testimony of one of her companions that accidentally saw her boos says they were the most glorious breasts he had ever seen and she was so pure that not one man in the French army could bring themselves to think lewd thoughts about her.
IRL Jeanne makes the concept of Mary Sue look like a trollop.
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>>159678283
Would have preferred her continuing to act as a big sister. It is a bit interesting he is inspired by her ideals and uses it to fill his utter nothingness as a "person" I suppose.
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1. I want Jeanne to be replaced with Jeanne Alter
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>>159679078
At least they got the breast part right.
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>>159679177
If there is an anime for F/GO would they appear?
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>>159679177
Who wouldn't? She has much more personality than Jeanne.
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>>159679177
fuck off, i want Astolfo to be main girl and MC's main love interest rather than Jeanne
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>>159679289
They actually liked smaller cup sizes back then as the ideal (that's why Mary statues don't have gigantic boobs). They would have just been the most amazingly well shaped and perky instead of being a tittymonster.
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>>159679378
>She has much more personality than Jeanne.
A stone is much more cooler and has more personality than Apocrypha Jeanne
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>>159679378
>a tsundere has more personality than Apo Jeanne
It's sad because it's true
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>>159679571
Even in GO where they had a chance to add something for they didn't do anything, a shame, Jeanne d'Arc is such a cool and interesting history character and they ruined it by turning her in a generic girl who fall in love with the MC
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>>159679621
She isn't just a tsundere, her recent interlude proved that she has more in her than just that.
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>>159679345
an OVA

>>159679378
I agree too.
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>>159679713
I mean if they created a 24 episode anime for F/GO would they be major characters? I have no idea how it's story arcs work or who is involved since granblue and sinoalice are the only mobages I play
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>>159679177
Jeanne being jealous of him talking to Astolfo or acting like a schoolgirl, shes just a
kuudere robotic moeblob girl
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>>159679820
If they cover the next chapter (Orléans) in the second OAV of GO then Jeanne Alter will be the main antagonist. If you are speaking of Saber Alter and Jeanne Alter as a duo of helpers than you will have to wait for the Shinjuku chapter if they ever get to it.
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>>159679820
Nopes, the major characters are these
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>>159679966
>shes just a kuudere robotic moeblob girl

Jeanne is a mix of Irisdina from Schwarzesmarken (kuu part) and Mio from K-ON (dere part)
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>>159670323
>we wouldn't get enough of the flat and jack show
Flat have more screentime compared to Ayaka.
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>paraplegic teenage girl summons centaur
>they immediately hit it off and she goes blushu just from talking about
>literally the ideal setup for a horseback ride
>except the centaur appears with a human lower body
Fuck this.
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>>159681146
Semi gives me a semi!

>>159681191
Not to mention, a critical lack of horsecock.
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>>159684298
The only good thing to come out of Apo
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>>159685306
>horse fucker
>Good
Anon, please.
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How long until we get a Type Moon board?
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>>159687138
Chiron isn't a horse here, so that argument is invalid try again
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>>159685306
>forgetting the best Assassin, in character and gameplay
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>>159688194
She's only good for my cock.
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So when does Gudako show up?
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>>159688230

Please do not sexualize the homicidal loli
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>>159688279
I want to be in her.
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>>159688745
Looks like she's holding a mic
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>>159687213
I wish.

The only dedicated Type-Moon thing you'll get is probably the FGO general on /vg/.

Maybe /jp/ but I think that's just boats and 2hus now.
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>>159688745
What's that HA thing right underneath the guy's arm?
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Is it grand order that made fate so popular?
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>>159689041
Were you born yesterday?
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>>159689041
No, but it did boost it quite a bit.

ircc it was Zero. That was the most shitposting I ever saw personally on this board.

Though Fate has always been fairly popular.
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>>159689087
>>159689157
The mobage seems to have gotten it to seep out of just otaku circles and get regular people into fate
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>>159689254
>cowtit
Gross
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>>159689001
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>>159689001
The HA manga?
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>>159689720
Wow, since when is that a thing? The art looks good too.
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>>159689297
Mostly FGO here, but Jack is on it at least.
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>>159689720
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>>159689720
Apparently started serialization in 2013, monthly. 2nd volume was released about a year ago.
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>>159689157
Zero only rewakened interest to it by bringing secondaries to it.

A mistake
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>>159673433
There's plenty of cute homunculus abuse though.
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>>159690275
>>159689720
I hope it's an experiment to see how well they can serialize it, so that they'll learn on its mistakes and make a good F/HA anime adaptation.
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>>159662093
Sieg's become a dragon because dragon's blood and Jeanne is already dead. What's your problem again?
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>>159690543
I want a figure of Jeanne Alter in a dress. Saber Alter got one so I have hope
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>>159660742
>Save humanity. Everlasting peace and bliss for everyone. God literally says that he's right and that he wishing for that would be the best outcome EVER.

>Then Jeanne and Sieg say "No you can't do that because humans should find their own happiness" while forgetting the fact that they aren't human.
And they are absolutely right. Sieg could taste humanity for this short period of time, Laeticia was human already and Jeanne was a human in the past. Humans were given free will to pursue anything they want. They're not obligated to accept something they don't want.
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>>159651773
Its a bit more nuanced than that. Shirou won because of about seven situational things. Shirou if he doesn't get UBW up fast enough loses, if he allowed Gilgamesh to regain his senses even for a moment in UBW then he loses, if Gilgamesh draws Ea then he loses, if Gilgamesh remembers that he can draw more than swords from his vault then shirou loses. These are all things that Shirou himself said in the VN. Shirou said that Gilgamesh surely has shit in his vault that he can't deal with, so he has to hit him as fast as he can while he's still disoriented.

There's a reason Nasu said that Gilgamesh would have beaten Archer if he had recontracted with Rin during UBW, but he lost against Shirou. Its because Gilgamesh does not take humans seriously, so he ended up fucking around the entire match until it was too late. However even then Shirou said that him winning was a miracle only if everything went perfectly. He could not let Gilgamesh regroup himself mentally, he had to hit hard, fast, and not let him have any actions.

Shirou only has a chance if he can get UBW up, which is harder than it seems since it requires a shit load of mana and takes awhile to chant it out and activate. If for any reason Gilgamesh got serious during that time it would be over, but since he only exists to be a foil to the protags in FSN by the creators own admission, of course he wouldn't. Just having compatible against someone isn't auto-win, but it does give him a heavy advantage as long as he can create the conditions of the fight.
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>>159689297
>Avicemanlet.
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>>159660742
AWESOME HEADCANON based on weebshit said
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>>159694851
Should've just gone the Babbage route.
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>Voiced HA patch might be available before end of the year

I have waited too long for this.
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>Apoc anime finishes
>Turns out all the summary fags were lying to us, and it was actually decent ending that made sense
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>>159678283
Jeanne never considered herself a saint in Apo. >>159678657
I guess you haven't read shit then
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>>159695003
>there are people who ever trust summeryfags

The only time 4chan has ever been quick to dismiss people lying about LN's was, full metal panic spoilers.

Kaname shooting Tessa in the head being a lie.
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>>159695044
The entire reason people believe Apoc is the worst Fate story ever is summaryfags giving some brief synopsis. Considering how much I've seen them been wrong about other shit, you never know what they might have just been a bias fag about.
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>>159694754
Still gilgamesh do not have full skill cap on the NPs stored in GoB, unlike shirou where he had the experience and knowledge to use the traced treasure to it's fullest potential
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>>159695003
>People have been talking about Apocrypha being shit for years and talking about these very same plotpoints as well
>But it's only now that they've started to "lie" to mess around with animeonlyfags
Whatever makes you sleep at night. Hope you like the dragon dick.
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>>159695071
I've just assumed they've been bullshitting or being bad at reading since the beginning considering I've never seen any particular indication that moonmen dislike apoc.
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>>159695115
Now that Prisma is canon, literally the only reason Gil lost is that he didn't take the fight seriously.
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>>159695296
>gilfags
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anyone knows the japanese channel this anime airs in ? Im in japan want to see it
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>>159695431
Tokyo mx, I think
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>>159694880
>>159694945
You might want to delete it again and make sure the 3rd try at least makes sense.
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Gilfags are becoming more and more ridiculous. I swear nasu must really regulate gil's power levels before this thread becomes cancerous
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>>159695115
All he needs to do to win is draw Ea. Which he had a chance to do during the fight, but he ended up choosing his pride over victory.

He can also use his treasures pretty well, he's just not a master. FSN is inconsistent anyway; Shirou tracing Saber's skills got beaten and cut in half in two strokes by Gilgamesh using Merodach in Fate route, yet in UBW he's outskilling him. He's not even tracing someone's skills in UBW. He lost because he was meant to be a foil to Shirou's ideals, that Shirou could rise above in order to make his ideals look better.

In Fate route Gilgamesh managed to fight Saber in close combat by switching weapons rapidly so she couldn't adapt, until she ended up jumping back. In Extella Gilgamesh managed to beat Altera in close combat. As said before, its whatever the writer wants it to be at the time so the protags have a chance.
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>>159695351
>Thinking that's me just so you can have a strawman to tear down.
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>>159654645
>Okay.Bye, Shinji.
Shirou really is fucking insane.
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>>159695583
>gilfags
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>>159660760
What is that? Haven't played extella.
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>>159695556
>He's not even tracing someone's skills in UBW
It transfers the experience to the user. It was implied in the anime.
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The double standard of anon
>hates on Jeanne, thinking she's bland and only goes for Sieg's dick. Muh Jannu ruined.
>loves Jeanne Alter, whose only outstanding characteristic is being violent and goes for the cardboard cut-out MC's dick. Muh Jannu saved animu.
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>>159648664
>>159648664
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>>159695556
>Miura: But when you look at it rationally, until 24, when Shirou says, "I don't care if it's fake," he hasn't awakened yet. So looking back, I'm glad he truly gained his full powers around the battle with Gilgamesh. If he'd suddenly gone full power when he fought Archer, the Gilgamesh battle would've paled in comparison. You once told me, "The Gilgamesh battle is the moment when Shirou Emiya shines the BRIGHTEST in his life."
>Nasu: It does seem like the peak of his life. In sports, I'm sure there are times when a lesser opponent gets the better of the one reigning at the top. And that's not because he's always had that ability, but because of various factors like "I've really got it today," or "When I get home today, I'm getting married." When those things come into play, people can transcend their own specs. That's why Gilgamesh says at the end, "Today you're stronger." For Gilgamesh, it's not his life that he values, but what he modeled his legend on. The reason he didn't want to use Ea was because if he'd done so against an inferior opponent, he wouldn't have been able to face the heroes who'd beaten by Ea.
>And yet, when he was unable to draw Ea against Shirou, Gilgamesh was clearly defeated in this Holy Grail War. Conversely, had he managed to draw Ea in time despite his hesitation, it would've been a heavier burden for Gilgamesh to bear than death.
>As I've said repeatedly, the lines that could only work in the visual novel were all expressed in the Gilgamesh battle. So I wondered how they could be brought to the screen. The results speak for themselves. The battle to exterminate heroes exploded all over the screen, something you can only achieve with anime.

Moment he lost is that split second when he refused to draw Ea.
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>>159695632
Jeanne Alter is much more cooler than Apo Jeanne
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>>159695717
I didn't include the chuuni edgy factor on purpose.
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>>159695632
Alter is also not a stick on the mud so she's objectively a more fun person. Plus, bullying her because of her chuuni making her flustered and embarrassed is an even bigger plus.
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>>159696409
>stick on the mud
>objectively
Objectively Jeanne Alter's character equates to scratching a blackboard with nails. "Teasing" her makes her face contort in spasms, as if she's passing a really big and hard stool or really wants to hold in the vomit that's threatning to spew out. Her overall disposition is so garbage, comparing her to her Dragon Witch from Orleans form is an insult to the Dragon Witch. A stick on the mud is much better than this travesty.
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