What was the golden age of anime?
80's
>>159616746
Now.
Around 1917 to 2017. But I could be wrong.
>>159616819
Why 80's?
Objectively speaking the 80s.
But if you use "golden age" in the sense of the time it was the best, it's a matter of opinion.
2006 when i come home, turn on T.V & watch Naruto, Bleach, then in mornings before school I watched Inuyasha, Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon. those days were so comfy desu
From around the mid-ninties onwards it feels like things just sorta stopped progressing. In terms of quality I'd say until that point, and in terms of economics it's the late eighties.
>>159616863
Because it was.
Golden age does not mean best time period. It has little to do with quality at all.
The 80s were the golden age because anime was given lots of money to waste away at good animation. And the industry was full of optimism and growth.
That's what golden age means. It does not mean that there was anything good.
>>159616746
The one your favorite anime is from
>>159616905
my man
>>159616746
'80's to early 00's.
It became shit right when computer CG images was new and widely used. Lead to a lot of shitty series that looked like plastic. Then computer CG got better, in late 00's early 10's but the stories, characters and settings all took a nose dive into generic city.
Now, we have gone full circle where having a confident out going alpha lead is something "new".
>>159616863
More variety in genres
Beautiful hand drawn cells with real painted backgrounds, no digipaint shit with a plastic cg sheen over things
Golden age of Japanese economic boom so we got lavish artist driven stuff like angels egg, robot carnival and Akira
Direct to video ovas allowed for uncensored complete artistic freedom.
No need to argue between serious anime in genres like sci fi vs waifu stuff. 80's had both. Macross and dirty pair had both cute sexy girls and sci fi. Urusei yatsura, kimagure orange road, and gunbuster did too.
CODE GEASS
k-on
Another good time was when the industry was flooded with Evangelion money and all sorts of guaranteed flop masterpieces were made, in the late 90s and early 00s
When Hidamari Sketch was airing.
>>159616746
In the future, when we can have holographic waifus. The irony.
mid 2000's-90's
That's not to say good anime didn't come before or after those dates, but I feel it was at it's best artistic and creative wise. Before Moe became as cancerous as it is today
>>159616861
This, maybe only a little longer.
After ShinSekai Yori all went shit
Cyberpunk's dying days. When stuff like Stand Alone Complex and Ergo Proxy was being released.
>>159616746
1990-2003
Debate me.
>>159617791
Why those years?
>>159616819
This. Girls were better, male MCs were better, music was better and so much more.
I dont hate modern anime but 80s anime just had something magical about it.
>>159616746
Are we really debating if it were the early 2000s??? Is this how low /a/ has dropped?
>>159617096
The new code geass better not use CGI mecha or I swear to god I'm going to channel my inner Breivik.
>>159616847
>now
>tripfagging
you saved me the fatigue to prove your retardness
>>159617900
do hokuto no ken and saint seya count?
late 70s to early 80s is the only acceptable answer
>>159617037
early 00's were pretty good. in fact, early digital being bad is a meme. artwork, storytelling, ambition, art style, and animation were all vastly superior to modern shows. the only flaw was low resolution mastering and bad CG, and bad CG is still very much here. unshaded 480p digipaint looks better than the HD filter-abusing-to-cover cg and blurry photo background vomit today.
>>159618416
Why would you exclude the late 80s?
Now!
>>159618459
some of the best stuff was being made then, but there was also an endless flood of trashy or unfinished ovas and lots of pandering over innovation. granted a lot of that is fun to watch today, but that's mostly tied up in nostalgia and cultural relic status
>>159616746
2006-2011
>>159616746
1985-1995
After EVA it all went down.
>>159616746
Late 70's to early 90's probably
>>159616872
This post is retarded and so are you.
>>159618643
Even a lot of the crappy OVAs are very worthwhile, you denounce them for a lack of innovation but anime aesthetics were changing big time during the late eighties to early nineties. Even if you put those aside, that's ignoring giants like Akira, Ghibli and Gainax.
Now. 80's was shit, 90's was meh, 2000 had literally nothing worthy.
>>159618940
No bait answers, tell me how current anime does anything better than past eras did.
>>159618940
Implying now is any better.
>>159618979
tv animation quality is better.
less edgy garbage too.
there are very few animes that are actually good. Harda to tell which one was a golden era but it most certainly isn't now with fucking normie shit coming out everywhere.
There are literally no good animes nowdays
>>159618931
There was a TV anime crisis in the mid-80s (most notably with Sunrise mecha becoming unprofitable and Tomino "retiring" television, following the 70s men like Dezaki) people often ignore because of the famous stuff you mention, but I think the theatrical stuff cancels it out.
>>159619045
Reliance on digital compositing does not a good series make.
>>159618979
Most anime fans think modern anime has better animation and that anything before Brotherhood is unwatchable trash.
>>159619106
I think TV is pretty well always secondary to film, at least as far as the "canon" goes.
>>159616746
The golden age has yet to come. But I belive that it sonn will be here.
>>159619065
>animes
>normies
>implying normalfags don't like to bitch and whine about modern anime
>>>/out/
>>159619220
only newbies like shit that comes out nowdays, what the fuck are you talking about
Don't tell me you are one of those AoT suckers
>>159619264
>only newbies like shit that comes out nowdays
or people who aren't close-minded nostalgiafags and are able to find some good in seasonal/modern anime
There's a lot of trash (just like always) but to say it's all bad is the mark of someone who probably doesn't even watch enough of it in the first place to have that opinion or just has bad taste.
>one of those AoT suckers.
No.
>>159619606
I mean, there are some good things but those good things can rarely hold a candle to the classics.
00's > 60's > 50's > 70's > 90's > 10's > 80's
>>159619943
Weird ranking.
>>159617791
Finally. /a/ is pleb like every 4chan board
>>159619943
It's the contrarian ranking
Here you have the patrician ranking:
80's > 10's > 70's > 90's > 00's > 60's > 50's
00's > 90's > 10's > 70's > 80's
You may switch 70's and 10's, haven't really seen enough of the two last ones but I hear the 70's has some really great masterpieces
>>159620714
>>159619943
>1900s
fuck off dumbasses
GOLDEN AGE
GOLDEN CENTURY
2009 was the pinnacle.
The age of Yamada
>>159616746
60s, but just like with Disney that doesn't mean the best works came from that era.
>>159616746
Before CG
>>159618913
Different anon, but it's correct
>>159618254
not him but hokuto no ken had some pretty awful pacing and filler problems. and let's not forget hnk2. voice acting by far the best in the decade though. it really carries the show
>>159619126
Digital = vastly faster production = more shows = more money. At the end of the day companies are after profit, they're not interested in the animation version of cd vs vinyl debate.
>>159621107
Impressive
>>159619151
they're right
>>159625629
No they're not
>>159625629
Bait harder.
>>159621209
Different anon, but it's retarded.
>>159616746
70-80.
>>159619045
>less edgy garbage
You only think it's edge garbage because you aren't into edgy things. In the 90's you would have been the fag for not liking the edginess. In other words, not an argument.
>>159617431
this. moe ruined anime. late 90s were the peak and it was steady til early 2000's, and it started going to shit around mid 2000's.
Now it's trash, but manga is still going strong
>>159626344
>moe ruined anime
So anime has been worthless since the late 80's, when the moe craze started?
>>159626402
well modern moe and slice of life is what I really mean. The industry is just saturated in that shit now.
>>159626328
The trainwreck that is shit like Genocyber does the arguing for me.
>>159618416
>late 70s to early 80s is the only acceptable answer
You're objectively right.
Mid 90's had the best animation.
mid 80s to end of the 90s? Lots of good shit, especially movies, from that period.
>>159626753
Stardust Crusader ? I can't recall the source
>>159626753
Why does the spaceships have legs? That's fucking stupid.
>>159626862
Some PS1 Gundam game IIRC.
>>159626928
>talking shit about the Big Zam
Feddie scum out.
>>159626978
shit that's a waste of good animation putting that in a game
>>159626435
>well modern moe and slice of life is what I really mean. The industry is just saturated in that shit now.
>looks at current anime season
>variety everywhere
>multiple fantasy, supernatural, mystery, action, psychological, sci-fi, battle shounen, sport anime airing along a proportional amount of SoL anime that may even be worthwhile themselves
>it's like this almost every season
What did he mean by this?
>>159618254
Yeah in my opinion.
>>159627015
They needed an excuse to redo some 0079 scenes but didn't want to remake the whole series. Sunrise was swimming in yen back then.
>>159619220
Nah, most of nomalfags are fine how anime is nowdays.
>>159627292
Aren't they still ?
>>159627371
Good point.
>>159627328
all this complaining about "degeneracy" taking over, moe "killing" anime, and whining about how anime is not pumping out Cowboy Bebops every season anymore (as if it ever did) tells me otherwise.
>>159627175
how many of those are actually just moe light novel garbage with "unique" settings
>>159616746
80's 90's... today's animation is too plastic for me.
With a few exceptions.
>>159627512
>animation
Why does everything the golden age of anime = the best animation.
The best anime came from the 70s.
>>159619045
>less edgy garbage too
>now
>>159627591
Because that's a major component of what makes something good? 70s we're great but the best are hardly exclusive to it.
>>159623128
I love excel saga, good shit :D
>>159627456
Most of them are manga adaptations, game adaptations, or originals actually.
also, what is "moe" to you? Is it anything with a cute girl on the cover, a certain art style, or K-on like shit? I can never tell.
>>159627659
Have you seen some of the ultra violent OVAs that came out during the 80s and 90s? Modern "edginess" doesn't even compare.
>>159627923
What was the one where the muscle-headed guy throws open his clothes to reveal his junk covered with hand grenades?
90s were a dark time
>>159616746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWH6ZJJT6wI
educated yourself, plebs.
>>159616905
>no Escaflowne
>no Cardcaptor Sakura
>no Sailor moon
>no Digimon
I WANT 1996 KIDS TO LEAVE, LEAVE NOW!!! I bet you never even watched Beasties or Captain Star.
>>159628658
>a relic of the early 2000s that reviews anime based on Greek dubs
>educated yourself
Kill yourself.
More moderate proportions
>>159616850
This guy gets it
2000-2008
>>159628054
Mad bull 34?
>>159627455
the "degenercy" bullshit is just mostly /pol/ not staying in their containment board and bitching about why Japan doesn't have christian values or some shit.
even 90's and 00s they weren't pumping out Cowboy Bebop every season. We still have Space Dandy though.
>>159628484
For the last fucking time, not every 90s anime looked like Saber Marionette.
>>159620743
>>1900s
>implying Katsudou Shashin isn't the greatest anime of all time
>>159616746
>Best years
1987, 1988, 1995, 1997, 2006, 2010
Honestly the golden age was probably 2006-2011
Now there's some cool innovation but too many companies are encroaching on anime production.
>>159634320
What's your metric for choosing a best year?
>>159617791
>1990-2003
>1990-1994 wasn't the worst period in anime history
>2000-2003 isn't close second or third
>>159619943
>>159620518
>>159620714
00's > 90's > 80's > 10's >= 70's > 60's > 50's
>>159634455
Solely just the number of good/important things that came out. 2010 could be considered a terrible year since Kon died and Madhouse started falling apart soon after but I didn't take stuff like that into account.
>>159616746
Not sure about an objective "golden age", but my personal favorite type of anime are the slice of life shows from the 80s.
Namely Maison Ikkoku, Kimagure, Miyuki, and Touch.
I didn't watch much 90s anime, but Golden Boy was pretty great. When shows go full-on harem is when they lose me. (Like Love Hina. Though I'm pretty sure that's 2000)
I'm going to use this thread as an excuse to ask for help identifying an 80s (?) SF / erotic thriller anime I saw on VHS many year ago.
The protagonist was some kind of space agent with a useless female sidekick. He had to infiltrate a space prison / mine run by a corrupt governess. In doing so he ends up in the centre of the planet and gets infected by spores or something, which enable him to occasionally transform into a monster a bit like guyver. While this is happening there's various sexploitation going on upstairs.
There was a 2nd chapter but can't for the life of me remember a thing about it.
>>159636671
Boku no Pico.
No matter what your opinion, I think we can all agree that 2008-2012 were the dark ages. Nothing good but K-on and FMA Brotherhood... and even those weren't mindblowing.
90s
>>159635250
The source ison saucenao.
>>159636671
Read filename
For me personally, my favorite period is probably around mid 90s to late 2000s. I like the style of the 90s best, but there is a lot shows from the midish 2000s that I love.
>>159616746
00's
>NHK
>Haruhi
>K-On
>Hajime no Ippo
>Code Geass
>Gurren Lagann
>Higurashi
>School Days
>Toradora
>baccano
>FMAB
>Spice and Wolf
>Zetsubou sensei
>Mushishi
>Samurai Champloo
>Monster
>>159637232
lots of stuff I liked is from 2007-2011.
but I like melodrama and HS 'romance' and I don't like magic/sci-fi/action/mech so maybe my opinion doesn't count
>>159637232
>cross game
>kaiba
>tatami galaxy
>drrr
>hiatusxhiatus
>bakemonogatari
>hidamari
>madoka
>tsuritama
>fate/zero
>tiger and bunny
>toradora
>angel beats
>chihayafuru
>chinese batman
>ben-to
>hyouka
>spice and wolf
>panty and stocking
>clannad: as
>mitchiko to hatchin
>eden of the east
>fractale
what
>>159637820
That's the best anime has to offer, in your opinion?
>>159616872
You're retarded. The industry is as profitable as it ever had been
>>159638054
Golden age refers to more than profit
>>159637820
>School Days
Oh, that's a masterpiece all right.
>>159638104
except profit is the only objective measure
>>159627951
>:D
Retard.
>>159638021
Of those only madoka magica and panty and stocking are actually any good. Maybe michiko. Clannad is not my cup of tea at all I hate it so much
>>159638529
your mom in my dick is an objective measure
>>159638529
I think it's more about the general attitude of the culture and industry than profit.
>>159616746
2005 when Mushishi aired and noitaminA was established-2011 when noitaminA died because of Fractale and Anohana
>>159618940
Do you even like anime or did you just come here to bitch?
>>159627951
fuck off faggot
>>159616746
A good portion of things pre-2005 were good.
New anime has a severe lack of quality waifus.
And no, two large mellows alone don't make a character a good waifu.
>>159640358
>he's using waifus as a term for girls
>>159616746
2006-2011
>>159640936
Isn't that more like, when you just started watching anime?
>>159640956
No. I started in 2015 but 2006-2011 had the most good shows.
>>159641060
>>159641090Fuck off
>>159641090
Its gunbuster
>>159616746
04-10
>>159641060
Read the thread.
>>159641072
>I started in 2015
Ah I see, so I can completely rule out your opinion now.
>>159641009
>>159641060
>>159641090
>>159641140
Fuck off
>>159641148
I've still seen 100s of shows that released over the past 45 years.
>>159641251
OK anon, whatever.
>>159641251
Please dont humiliate yourself any further anon
Protip, there's this amazing tool called saucenao that can help you find sources. Remember to use that before asking dumb questions.
1958 (Hakujaden is released) - 2001 (Spirited Away is released)
During this 40 year time period, there were masterpeices being shit out left and right at an evenly consistent rate. Economically, as others have said, it's clearly the 80's. I don't think you could objectively come up with a decade from that time period that was better in volume of masterful content.
>>159616746
A rule of thumb: Japanese media is good, when their economy is good.
Take the 70's oil crisis for example. All media like Sentai shows and monster movies went from looking really great (for the time), to looking like cheap fan films. Same with anime. When the economy was good in the early 2000's-2010, the anime was good. But once the tsunami hit, everything went to shit, and still hasn't come back.
When the economy is good, we get a lot of original shows with 24 or more episodes. Creators have more freedom, and more risks are taken.
When the economy is bad, then we will get a lot of 12 episode shows based on popular sources (12 ep shows that are there to test the water and will not get a sequel if the dont bring in the money). A lot more sequels, reboots and other shows that guarantee a profit.
>>159627967
>Modern "edginess" doesn't even compare.
Modern edginess is even worse. Bunch of white haired teens, scratching their necks and biting their fingers or rape-y, overacting maniacs with googly eyes are much worse than good old fashioned shlock gore.
Eras of anime:
Pre-60's (pre-Tezuka shorts and films)
1961-1971 (early TV shows and foundations)
1973-1983 (expansion and growth of TV animation)
1984-2001 (home video/OVA era)
2002-present (animation is moved entirely to digital. audience is mostly online)
>>159627292
>but didn't want to remake the whole series.
They will be doing it anyway, soon.