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Doesn't it hurt to do this? Wouldn't he realistically

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Doesn't it hurt to do this? Wouldn't he realistically have sliced himself in half by standing on the sword?
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>>159422709
that's a really big sword man
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Greatswords were mostly blunt, used more like a mace than a cutting weapon.
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>>159422734
for you
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>>159422709
No.But it will be harder to balance.Realistically he would fall off.
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>>159422709
No. That's not how it works.
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>>159422709
Guts uses that sword to smash through metal armor constantly
It's blunt as fuck
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>>159422709
I doupt the sword is very shard since itd do more damage as a blunt object than a blade.
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>>159422709
Not all anime swords are anime-sharp swords; also, the weight of Guts' sword decreases its need for a sharp blade to cleave people.
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>>159422709
I mean I don't know anything about historical european boots but I know modern boots have anti-nail plates
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no, he's wearing strong boots
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>>159422774
>>159422746
Yeah but he also neatly slices dudes into pieces with it.
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Even if it would be sharp as shit it wouldn't cut that easily through leather soles without any slicing motion.
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>>159422796
See
>>159422786
You can't cleave people by just standing there.
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>>159422823
Couldn't Guts just jerk it upwards even a little bit and cut through Griffith's soles?
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>>159422829
Yes but Griffith is putting like 60kg of pressure on that sword. I'll hurt myself if I stand on a bread knife.
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>>159422709
Pretty sure the very first thing anybody says about the sword is that it's just a large chunk of not even sharp metal.
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>>159422878
bread knifes are small anon pay attention
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>>159422709
it's a pretty blunt sword
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>>159422924
Whenever I see this I can't help but think that it looks like brutal rape straight out of Irreversible.
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berserk made no fucking sense even before we got into the fantasy stuff, it's a lot like the greek epics, you just have to roll with it.
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>>159422829
If you understand how to physics, you would understand I wasn't supporting the "Doesn't it hurt" side of the argument.
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>>159422996
Made perfect sense to me desu
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>>159422709
A sword has to cut through muscle, bone, and organs, which aren't distributed evenly. The cut may change its angle when the sword encounters uneven resistance, and it could even bounce off or get stuck in a hard material like bone. On top of that he is trying to move. He's going to lose chunks of his feet, then lose his balance fall off the sword, getting injured but not sliced in half.
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>>159422785
>I doupt the sword is very shard
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>>159422709
It probably would hurt, but it's Griffith. Wouldn't cut him though.
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>>159423148
I didn't mean he'd literally get sliced into two even halves. I just meant he'll get seriously hurt by applying his entire weight onto that thing over 2 small points of contact.
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>>159422850
You ever try to swing a fuckhuge sword with a guy standing on it? Even guts has limits before his rage-fueled power up
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>>159422709
>ctrl+f "shoes"
>0 results

wtf
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>>159423086
>casca can defeat several heavily armoured mercenaries with a small rapier
>griffith can block guts huge sword with a tiny sabre
>guts can do half the shit he does while human

I suppose it all goes out the window since fate and magic exist though.
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>>159423215
I didn't say "swing". I said move it like one inch. Hell Guts could probably throw his whole body at it at an angle, injuring Griffith and knocking him off.
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>>159423229
Yes, because shoes are steel proof.
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>>159422850
No. That's not how physics works.
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His shoes are obviously sharper than the sword.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo
Basically, you're retarded.
The skin on your feet is even thicker than the skin on your hands, and he's wearing boots.
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>>159422709
The sword isn't sharp, numbnuts. Guts says so himself.
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>>159422956
you've watched too much rapey shit anon
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>Doesn't it hurt to do this?
yes, it should hurt

>Wouldn't he realistically have sliced himself in half by standing on the sword?
no, it would probably just give him a scar on his feet
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>>159423281
That's different from applying your whole body weight to a sword though.

>>159423298
Watching Berserk literally equals watching rapey shit.
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>>159423261
Again, trying to move that weight in that stance with a dude running at you with a sword.
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>>159423298
what did miura mean by this panel?

>ah yes here's a long rape scene with lots of titties and ass its all for the plot my friends
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>>159423401
Literally every character in the manga gets treated like this though. Hell there's a fucking closeup of Judeau's ass at some point.
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>>159423438
nothing compared to casca though

which is strange considering miura likes casca and based her on that idolmaster character
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>>159423346
I think you're overestimating how sharp greatswords are. Especially one that had just been used in battle, probably hadn't had a whetstone applied to it, and most certainly was dulled killing that one armored guy. Also as anon said human soles are quite thick and people have been known to walk on nails/hot coals and be fine. And another thing is the distribution of weight across the "sharp" surface. Even still the thick leather boots would blunt a lot of the damage.

I mean of all the things to get pissy about in berserk this is one I don't get.
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>>159423298
Man, that get-up was so fucking nice. I hope Miura got a new fly-ass design for her.
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>>159423491
She's a woman. Women got raped a lot in medieval wars.

Men, however, weren't raped particularly often, and Miura still gives us Guts and Griffith getting fucked in the ass. He also constantly shows Griffith naked. By your logic, Miura must be aiming the manga at gays.
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>>159423496
But, did Griffith do anything wrong tho?
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>>159423496
>people have been known to walk on nails/hot coals

Neither have much to do with soles. With nails, you have even distribution of pressure evenly across many points. With hot coals, it's got everything to do with thermal conductivity.
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>>159423526
Mental retardation doesn't really do it for me no matter what it's dressed up in.
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>>159422746
>>159422774
>>159422785
>>159422786
>>159422924
>>159423496
>Guts' sword isn't sharp

No soldier as skilled and as smart as Guts is gonna be caught dead with a blunt sword.
Even so, simply applying your weight on a blade evenly with good leather boots with no slicing motion isn't gonna do much. Leather is a lot better at resisting cuts than people would think. There's a reason it was used as armor back in the day.
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AH, ANONS, THIS THREAD WAS BUT A TRAP

THOUSAND YEAR OLD CORBOWITZ TECHNIQUE!
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>>159423728
He's literally admitted that it was dull as fuck and that he practically just smashes people in half with it
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>>159422709
Was it common in medieval times for a man to wear purple pants and a pink shirt?
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>>159423725
She's obviously gonna get untarded, though.
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>>159423833
The clean cuts he makes don't really fit with that.
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Will the series be more better if Griffith is a girl?
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>>159423859
People in medieval Europe wore massive codpieces shaped like dicks that they kept food and wine in anon.

I think a fancy shirt is a small thing.
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>>159422709
no
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>>159422709
Realistically guts would have had dislocated shoulder and Griffith would have tripped
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>>159423859
You'd be surprised, it really was. Medieval dudes loved their bright colours. Though purple pigment in particular was rare iirc.
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Griffith is literally a fairy he weighs nothing.
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>>159423898
I say no because the dynamic between Guts and Griffith is based on masculine ideals of friendship and independence.

If Griffith was a girl I have a feeling it would just be "Hurr he really wants guts dick"
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>>159422709

Guts catching a sword with his teeth is fine but THIS bothers you?
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>>159423898
Absolutely not!

Every great piece of literature has to have themes of brotherly love and a touch of homoeroticism. The male/female dynamic is an unbalanced one and would not have worked here.
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>>159423491
Idolmaster didn't exist when Miura designed Caska
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>>159423874
>DUURRRRR I DONT CARE WAT HE SEZ IN DA MANGO DOSE CUTS R KATANA TIER
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>>159424008
He's just talking shit to get them riled up imo
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>>159423861
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>>159423937
Griffith DOES want Guts' dick. All he can think about when fucking the princess is naked Guts. Hell, he does hatefuck her just becaus Guts left.
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>Griffith weighs nothing maybe a reference to Legolas or elves from Lotr
>His demonic power is crushing gravity.
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>>159424061
Damn their relationship was really sweet. I love how he'd always tease her and go "it's just a prank bro" and she'd hit him in return. So much better than lovey-dovey shit.
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>>159424059
No human being is this fucking dense
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>>159424065
>naked Guts
You what?

Though he did cum while thinking about Guts, which is suggestive of him wanting Guts' dick.
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>>159424065
>>159424153
He was thinking about Guts because Guts had left him and he was fucking the princess to re-establish some feeling of control over his life.
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>>159424097
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>>159424153
no need to censor stuff from non-hentai manga, just spoiler it next time senpai
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>>159424061
Not sure what you're trying to imply here, but this page is great.
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>>159424202
>tfw Guts was just a bit teddy bear on the inside
I mean, he loved Puck too.
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>>159424212
I've been banned from other boards too many times, I've become very cautious.

>>159424200
I would argue that it was a way of giving up control, actually. A kind of suicidal action.
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>>159424202
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why did the art get worse, is he getting old?
It's like he spends way more time on it but it looks way worse. The Rosine arc had the best art imo.
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>>159424263
That's the tragedy of Guts' character. He's a genuinely kind, sweet guy with a huge heart. But life just destroys him and forces him to be hard and brutal over and over.
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>>159424293
he's 50 and considering the rate Mangakas are dropping dead or leaving because they're sick from work stress/injuries
well, be grateful for what you can get
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test
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>>159423582
Rape and child abuse were incredibly common in the middle ages anon. Usually by the parents.

Babies were often just bundled up really tightly for much of their youth. They were considered pests. Letting a baby get away with crying would supposedly allow it to turn into a tyrant so they'd stuff it's mouth with balls of fabric untill it fell asleep from exhaustion.
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>>159424703
Oh yeah, I am aware that the concept of "childhood" wasn't really a thing up until Victorian times.

I didn't know parental sexual abuse was common though.
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>>159422709
are you fucking serious
giant swords were mostly blunt on the edges because they were used for smashing and crushing
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>>159424773
What who taught you that? Some moron social studies idiot?
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>>159424823
All the books on history and art I've ever read

But I guess you could say they were written by "some moron social studies idiot".
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>>159422709
You can grab a sharp longsword by a blade and beat the shit out of someone with a cross-guard without cutting your hands. It's quite uncomfortable to do without gloves though.
You can even hammer nails with a kitchen knife while grabbing it by a blade and not hurt yourself, and those things are far sharper than swords. As long it's just pressure, without slicing or chopping motion, it's fairly difficult to cut some materials.

If you want to complain about anime physics, I'm pretty sure they should fall due to the center of gravity projection being outside the of base of support.
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>>159424773
Historians don't usually consider it abuse because it wasn't explicitly in the legal code etc.

Things did eventually start getting better, but even in Weimar/ Nazi Germany it was common for mothers to send their child to wet nurses who would just swaddle the babies up and hang them on nails/ hooks on the wall with rags in their mouths.

Because the wet nurses didn't really give a fuck they'd often give the baby back really sick and the parents would refuse to have it.

Most kids saw their mother kill at least one sibling through suffocation or physical trauma.
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>>159422709
It's a sword not a lightsaber gripping the blade and using it's crossguard to bash oponents (mordhau) didn't ended up with cut hands so boots on the blade will work fine.

I think stuff like anime and movies like kill bill or the bodyguard distorted people's notion about what swords truly are. Most people think that you have to be carefull while swinging a sword because you might accidently cut reality due to how sharp they are.
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>>159425335
Up until modern times, kids were pretty much seen as small and retarded adults who make a nuisance of themselves and do dumb shit, for which they deserve an adult's punishment. Or as you said, essentially subhuman.
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>>159424703
>they'd stuff it's mouth with balls of fabric untill it fell asleep from exhaustion.

Fuck, that sounds really satisfying
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>>159424868
You're fucking retarded gtfo
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>>159425851
Care to give me one reason why I'm retarded for claiming what is widely known as a historic fact?
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Why do we have no actual information of what Miura's doing during these hiatuses?
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>>159425902
You're making the statement kiddo. The burden of proof rests on you.
I'm not interested though i'll just put it with all the other revisionist facts and conspiracy theory social studies morons sprout on here
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>>159425934
drawing lolis and playing [email protected]
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>>159423728
Did you miss the part were guts was literally leaving a battlefield? Sure first thing he's gonna do after that meatgrinder is take a whetstone to his blade. Fucking Autists.
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>>159422709
nah hed be fine, theres no real slicing motion so he would realistically just have trouble balancing
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>>159423602
Yeah he didn't take responsibility for casca and the princess after fucking them.

The only person truly innocent in berserk is Donovan. He was a good man who worked hard and spent his hard earned coin on relaxing. Dindu nuffin
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>>159425986
Are you alright, dude? You seem to be getting perturbed for no reason.
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>>159424059
Are you fucking this retarded? The reason dragonslayer fucks people up is because of the mass behind it. You don't need to have a 1000xfolded sharp blade to hack a man apart.
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>>159422709
does he have steel shoes? If so it's theoretically possible to do this without hurting yourself.

And the reason I'm saying theoretically is because it's impossible for him to keep himself balanced when his footing is that thin, regardless of what he's wearing or what the sword is made of.
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>>159426065
Thanks for conceding.
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>>159426041
When Griffith raped Casca he was a) mentally disabled from the torture and b) under the psychic influence of the God Hand which I suppose would act in the same way as a drug. By modern standards, that makes him incapable of consenting to sexual activity.


Therefore, Casca actually raped Griffith.
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>>159426159
Griffith was already trying to rape her before the eclipse happened. He just had no penis or working limbs
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>>159426156
I'm not the guy you were talking to.
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>>159426209
He was mentally retarded. Retards masturbate in public because they don't understand that it's wrong, they just know that it feels nice. Griffith was doing the same.
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>>159426209

I seriously... just... I can't even... how DARE you victim blame Griffith like that. Scum like you are the reason people like Casca can get away with this.
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>>159426209
He should've tried to get her to stick her fingers up his ass, at least that way he could actually feel something despite having no dick and balls.
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>>159426514
Pretty sure his rectum was destroyed.
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>>159426561
Then how does he poop? Not pooping is not good for you
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>>159422765
Especially if guts decides to just twirl it a little.
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>>159422709

No.
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Was I supposed to feel bad for Griffith? I didn't enjoy the torture part but was smirking when I saw in the shitty state he was in STILL alive. Should bit your toungue while still could
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>>159426941
>I didn't enjoy the torture part

I had an amazing fap to it
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>>159422746
This is wrong btw. Greatswords held a nasty cutting edge, they weren't fucking basebal bats.
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>>159427086
sword expert anon here to save the day
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>>159423833
>He's literally admitted that it was dull as fuck and that he practically just smashes people in half with it
That's Guts referring to the Dragonslayer. All Guts' other swords were sharp. Except for the old longsword he uses on the nobleman's son. He even remarks that the sword he's given is blunt as fuck.
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>>159427433
Are you an expert on medieval torture devices too by any chance?
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>>159423728
>Even so, simply applying your weight on a blade evenly with good leather boots with no slicing motion isn't gonna do much.
Wouldn't you get a slicing motion anyway? I don't think there's enough surface between the boots and sword to keep from sliding down the sword.
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>>159424326
The little mini arc with the flower fairy only confirms it.
Despite believing that it was just a fever hallucination, he still tried to get that flower to the field of flowers outside.
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>>159422709
Go ahead and press a knife against your palm. You can apply serious pressure without cutting yourself, if you aren't a woman-and Griffith is wearing boots.
Just don't draw the blade across your palm with pressure applied. That's where the cutting comes from, why swinging motions draw across a target, and why some blades were curved to increase the efficiency of this motion.
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>>159427513
>inb4 6 replies of "help im bleeding anon should i call a doctor im feeling a bit weak also my arm is looking a bit pale"
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>>159422709
I'm more bothered by this. Couldn't Griffith just have pushed the sword into his throat? Also I'm pretty sure he was pointing the blade vertically at his face, so it makes no sense he could grab it like that.
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>>159427513
Fuck you man, the knife fucking exploded
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>>159427707
Griffith has no arm strength I guess.
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>>159424202
My love for you, is like a truck
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>>159427897
BERSERKER
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>>159427707
He could have, but he was aiming to keep Guts, not kill him. If Guts fell down with his weight on the blade it would've gone too deep.
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>>159427513
The tip pierced through my palm, what do I do now
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>>159428657
Get your arm amputated obviously
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>>159423192
Griffith is 80 lbs, also most swords are not double edged, and Griffith is standing on the back.
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>>159427508
or when he comforted Jill
Where did he get that side? The only one I can think of is his adoptive mother
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>>159428928
His mother was probably a really good mom up until she died. They clearly loved each other dearly.
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>>159427707
Unless he's twisting the metal sideways l by gripping the blunt side of the sword. Griffith doesn't want to kill him but would be unable to pull the sword back
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>Miura delivers
>Berserk has ended, perfect ending everything is tied up
>global acclaim
>one last chapter out of nowhere
>it's uber flashback where they show Guts biological parents
>one is an apostole
>post yfw
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>>159429302
Always have a good kek at this image.
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>>159423859
Purple=rich as fuck
Pink=red=manly
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>>159430024
I wonder if Griffith also wore pink and purple when he pleased an old man for money.
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>>159423582
>Men, however, weren't raped particularly often

You really think that guys, especially young men and boys, weren't raped just as often? No one gave a shit back then. If you were pretty enough, or just still breathing, then one, if not all of your holes, were getting a dick in it. Gender be damned.
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>>159430492
I guess that's true. Wasn't homosexuality extremely frowned upon though? I wonder if the Baron would be able to fuck boys every night in irl medieval europe.
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>>159430580
People back then were also extreme hypocrites. Sure, if you want to fuck a harem of young nubile boys every night that's cool, but only after you married some young woman and pumped a baby into her.

Those rules didn't apply to rape though. Anything is fair game when it came to rape.
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>>159430492
Okay, seriously anon. Among all the rape-positive Medieval Western Europeans, not all of them liked Guys as much as you, okay. Like statistically, I doubt that was the case.
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>>159430767
Were there actually qts like Griffith in medieval europe or was everyone back then just dirty and stinky and inbred?
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>>159423859
No, but purple was prized as fuck and was considered one of the best dyes in the world. If you could afford it, you'd wear it.
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>>159422709
If this was a Katana folded 1000 times, Griffith wouldve died
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>>159430808
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_medieval_Europe

Apparently there was actually quite a bit of buttfucking back then.
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>>159430891
3D can't compare to 2D, but I'm sure there were some qts that existed back in the day. It was mostly the peasant that were dirty and stinky, while royalty was usually inbred.
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>>159431100
The peasantry actually bathed more often than nobles. The later usually applied perfumes and chemicals over soaps and water.
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>>159431025
> The Old Testament (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:5) and the New Testament (Romans 1:26) condemned females who wore male attire, males who wore female attires, and males and females that engaged in homosexual behavior or intercourse

Christianity was a mistake
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>>159422709
No. Even if Guts' sword was a lot smaller and a lot sharper, it would just cut a little into Griffith's shoes and get stuck there. Worst case scenario it goes through to his feet causing superficial cuts along the soles.
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>>159431100
Are those Edward and Richard? I feel so sorry for these two. They had a tough life.
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>>159431195
>traps are un-Christian
Sad.
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>>159422891
I believe you're thinking about Dragonslayer.
Guts' "original" sword wasn't very noteworthy; just a greatsword.
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WHY THE FUCK IS /int/ DOWN AND OTHER BOARDS ARENT
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>>159431173
>lives in Medieval Europe
>nobody would care if he never bathed and smelled like stale sweat 24/7
>still puts in effort to keep clean and smell nice

Truly a man ahead of his time.
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>>159431339
I don't know, but welcome to my thread!
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>>159423268
Go back to highschool and ask your teacher to explain force, momentum, weight, and wedges to you. Then go to wikipedia and wrap your head around why shoes exist in the first place and how leather soles function.
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>>159423830
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>>159431219
In 1674, some workmen remodelling the Tower of London dug up a wooden box containing two small human skeletons. The bones were found buried 10 ft under the staircase leading to the chapel of the White Tower. They were not the first children's skeletons found within the tower; the bones of two children had previously been found "in an old chamber that had been walled up", which Pollard suggests could have equally been those of the princes.

Yep, it's the Tower princes. Apparently there was some Flowers in the Attic type shit going on. There was more than one set of bones in the tower though so maybe they got to have friends before being murdered?
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>>159423268
And every sword was made to slice diamonds in half by gently resting on them.
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>>159431636
Weird that this story isn't bigger in pop culture, for how poignant and sad it is.
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>>159431800
I'm more surprised that the Japanese haven't made a porn based on it.
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>>159428928
it's also from casca, and his comrades; remember when he first joins the hawk he's just an edgy adolescent nihilist
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>>159422829
>You can't cleave people by just standing there
Actually the sharpest blades known to man can easily slice through human flesh. If someone were holding one and standing still and you happened to walk into them it would slice deeply into your body from your walking momentum
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>>159432036
He'd never had friends at that point and was horribly traumatised. Just look how he reacts when a stranger touches him.

>>159431934
jej
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>>159430492
I learned medieval history from playing Rance : the post
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>>159432773
Rance only fucks girls though.
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>>159432773
There's a Rance game where Rance goes around raping women, men, boys, girls, and even sheep?
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>>159422709
https://youtu.be/vwuQPfvSSlo
This thread again
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>>159431392
Bathing habits varied widely during the Medieval Ages and from area to area too.

(Vikings for instance were said to be able to seduce even married women... because they bathed regularly and even combed their beards).
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>>159433694
I wonder what people in medieval times smelled like.

I also wonder what Griffith smells like
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>>159425412
Depends on the parenting itself.

>>159425788
Well, the baby had a huge risk of suffocation.

>>159430808
Just because he stated some facts doesn't mean that he's into it.
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>>159434117
>Depends on the parenting itself.

Of course, I'm just talking about general social trends as well as depictions of children in art and literature.

For instance, literature aimed specifically at children only became a common thing in the 1800s.
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>>159422709
It's a show with demons, and people who managed to become some of the best swordsmen and fighters in the world without even reaching their mid-twenties. You've also got someone wielding a sword that wouldn't be possible or efficient to wield at all. I don't think it matters.
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>>159433761
Oh, I know what he smells like... Like fat nobleman sperm
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>>159435977
But he was a good boy and washed himself afterwards!
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>>159422878
You should probably pay attention to your Highschool class
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>>159426159
Griffithfag get out.
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>>159422709
No it's too thick
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>>159436305
>too thick
No such thing.
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>>159424061
I miss this
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I would like to use this opportunity to remind everyone in this thread that torturer-san used a rectal speculum on Griffith.

That is all. Do with this information what you will.
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>>159422709
>i failed highschool physics class
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>>159423830
crossbow-chan a cute
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>>159436750
It's not like his ass needed additional tools to be opened.
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>>159427513
> Go ahead and press a knife against your palm
Do I do this before or after I make my pretty crystals with bleach and ammonia?
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>>159437201
Speculums can be fucking excruciatingly painful if opened wide enough. I know because I've had one used on me
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